I'm a junkie for automotive paint videos whether it's about pigments or paint types or techniques ...I just came across you here today w this video and I gotta say we'll done brother you explain yourself very well so anyone can grasp it good stuff man I hit subscribe halfway through the clip...
Dang Trigger. That gun is fast. I found that my biggest problem with orange peal was I was not putting my clear coat on with enough overlap or not wet enough. Somebody quoted that the flattest paint is right at the edge of a run. I followed that and it has helped me a lot. Practice makes perfect.
@@sumbamotor that's cool man. Thank you for the feedback I'm glad you enjoyed. Even though you're not a painter feel free to subscribe for more relaxation videos 😎 🧘🏼♂️🧘🏼♂️
Triggerman I sure enjoyed this video. Being able to spray good wet coats of base and clear -- without runs -- is something that takes practice until it is second nature. Needless to say, I'm still working on it, lol.😊
Great advice and sweet result. How do you only have 10k subs? +1 today. I bought a somewhat cheap Devilbiss gun thinking watching videos was enough to spray silver base and clear for my first attempt. I was so wrong. You have so much skill, you see things without realizing it and adjust. Novices definitely need a lot of practice to develop more seeing and fixing in process skill. My second gun was an Ani R160-Q mini spray gun that sprayed better than the cheaper Devilbiss, which is now a primer gun. I took classes and invested in Devilbiss DV1 base and clear guns for my project cars. The better guns help, but I still need better skills especially with clear. Riding that fine line of glossy without major runs v. dry and no runs is still a struggle for me. Skills can spray bad guns, but good guns can't fix a lack of skills.
You just gained a subscriber Trigger. My base and clear spray guns I bought as a pair from NAPA auto parts about 22 years ago. I think I paid 120 for the pair. I have multiple nozzles for both and they've only let me down once. I lost seal at the spray cap on my base gun with my last spray on my own pickup. I have cheaper guns for primer. Love the video Triggerman.
Fantastic content as always trigger. I have recently been using iwata guns for the first time and been painting pretty much fluid wide open. Definitely something new but I wanted to speed up. Great guns with some sweet results. The ws400 s2 certainly lays down wet and smooth in all applications. Keep up th hard work. Like I have said from the start, you have one of the best channels out there👍. Spray on brother 🤜🤛😎
Hey Trigger hope you good folks over there aint to hot as we have another heatwave here in the UK it's been 40C (104F) in my little booth this afternoon🥵I don't like this heat😰 I remember when I first started out doing this crazy hobby I was doing ok until I started using sealer (WoW) I then had peel and/or dieback in my clear this was so frustrating and found the sealer one of the hardest paints to get to grips with but I ended up finding one that works for me and now I'm getting good finishes that I'm really happy with👌as you said if your first substrate starts of flat then you are on your way to a flat glassy clear👏 Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us Trigger🙏👍John
That's right John luckily you found a product that worked well for you. And think some people never figure it out and have not so great finishes for a very long time. And yes man it's hot as balls here. 102° you should air condition your work shop 😜
Yeah I think I tried 3 or 4 dedicated sealers, I even tried a high build that had an additive to convert it to sealer it was a really good high build but not sealer but when I tried the Novol Under 325-00 4:1 VHS it was perfect for me👌I used all my old sealers with less thinners as a primer surfacer so no waste and it seemed to work fine🫣😂
Depends on the product. Most are non sandable. Maybe if you have a sandable sealer it would be ok. But it's not common to sand sealer especially for the peel, maybe a few nibs but that's it
We out here watching triggerman waiting for him to drop the next vid In a couple hours Hahahha god bless you brother a god given gift to spray painting you are my bro
so much truth here - and also true for every paint application. People think that dipping your car will cover stuff up because it is so thick. Spoiler: All dip coats together are thick, but the individual coats you lay down are still thin and will follow every chip, dimple and whatever is on your old, bad paintjob. Saw a car with clear coat flaked off partially, all of the craters were still showing up after 10 layers of dip. Preparation is king. I was once told when restoring a part that 90% of the process is sanding it smooth - I'd even say that is on the low side. You cannot really filler up what you messed up in preparation, unless you use so much filler that a slam against a panel will send bricks flying ^^
Rarely do I spray sealer because I have difficulty in keeping it super smooth. I mix as surfacer then light sand for tooth and smoothness. It could be the product I use as it does set fast, but I still say it's my lack of skills in that department
Probably the product if t sets fast then most likely it's coming out with more texture than you'd like. Play around with different sealers maybe you can even ad a splash of reducer. Sealer will definitely give you more peel than desired unless you can figure out a good combination to combat it, whether it's materials,gun, application. I think when they made the lph300 they labeled it as their "sealer gun" which kinda makes sense that split nozzle atomizing sealer laying it down flat, although most of us use it for clear 😅
Surely if someone can't yet get sealer down without excessive peel then they're not yet gonna be able to get clear coat down without the same. I always treat my sealer like clear coat. How that sealer looks is how the clear is gonna look. I'd be looking at gun pressure, gun distance from panel/speed, temperature/humidity and viscosity of product all being potential culprits of excessive orange peel. Also products can be different requiring different application methods. Over time you learn how to control your application method to achieve specific finishes
I'm new to the channel but not the game. I 100% agree one thing you could make a video about is the opposite problem when your job stands out because it's better than factor
Thanks man. I made a video on that about a year and a half ago It's somewhere back down in my videos It's on a brand new red Ford bronco. Actually there's another one I did about a year ago it's on here as well on a red Chevrolet Silverado complete side tailgate and left quarter. It definitely happens It's rare but there will be that time to where your paint job It's too flat and does not have the factory peel and you have to redo it. 😭
@@thetriggerman954 👍I'll be working my way through your videos now. It's definitely becoming more of a problem as manufacturers seem to be letting standards slip
Adjusting my overlap and pressure while spraying sealer, spraying it wet like clear coat helped quite a bit when i first started spraying professionally. The difficult part was adjusting my technique for base coat particularly in blend areas. Using a wet bed with the base coat helped smooth out transition areas and using the correct temperature reducer helped with laying film build without runs or mottling, using another half coat while still wet for orientation on difficult colors also helped keep the flake laid out.. it aint as easy as those cavemen make it out to be. Almost all of my spray guns have been salvaged from the buckets of shame, abandoned in stripper by lazy painters and rebuilt for pennies compared to these crazy $1000 guns. great content.
@@genocide98 lol @ cavemen 😂 that would be me 🙋🏼♂️ it all just takes a little time. But when a person is determined to learn and master the skill it happens sooner than later. Sounds like you were determined and got success. Congrats man. 🫡
I've been painting since I was 19, (that's 55 years ago). Been using old Binks guns. Because of you I started looking at the Black Widow. Had a hard time letting go of 200 bucks for something use for a hobby. On their discount table was a Black Widow (out of the box discount) $89.99. I bought it...brand new. Thanks the all the info you put out. Even us old people can learn. Mark
Salute to you sir for paving the way for guys like me 🫡 you're greatly appreciated here. It's my pleasure to have an opportunity to help you. And if there is anything else I can help you with don't hesitate to ask Mark. This trade saved my life, literally so it runs a little deeper than most. 🙏🏼❤️ Have a blessed weekend my man 💪🏼
thanks triggerman pity I'm in south africa now I can only do small jobs but I'm learning so much from u I wish I had this experience before I got sick.but I'm enjoying every video of urs awesome God bless u and ur show and information
Pure logic! I just recently sprayed my crv. First day slick next day blurry and dieback. I believe I put too much reducer in my 2:1 high solids clear that speedokote SMR 42. Gonna da the clear with 800 and try again without reducer
I think that's an acrylic urethane. Not really The best stuff in my opinion supposed to be super glossy but doesn't have longevity. Good for like used car stuff but not on your personal vehicle that you plan to hold on to. Just my opinion
Thank you for the advise just enough said for me to grab the am tech clear with slow activator. I’m going to reclear with the Porphis 717. Man that atomizes like vapor! So we will see. How long does it take to get your clear when you order from Amazon, more than 7 days?
@@dardenvern I'm not sure, we get it from a supply shop around the corner from my shop. So I'm not exactly sure on that one man, sorry. But I haven't heard anyone complain that it's too long.
Its going to be difficult for new painters to pull this off with metallic colors and not get mottle. I would say to try it but be prepared to do your drop coats if you dont pull it off.
Just started painting last year Ive painted 2 cars so far I'm about to start painting another car tomorrow I've done really good so far getting regular finish not so much orange peel but I'm definitely trying this on my next project as it's black paint I am hoping to see great results I believe in your technique you make every gun spray and make your jobs look so smooth I'm hoping to achieve this on my next project thank you for all your knowledge dope stuff thanks trigger man👍
Maaann. Trigger you trippin bro. You ain’t got on a paint suit then you do. Must be the magic. 😆. Awesome video man. Love how you break things down to help others. Thank you for sharing your tips and techniques.
Triggeeeeerrrrrrr...... Power maaaaaannnn😊 Every day i paint cars the same way with you brother.... Bumpers on.(Not all jobs)...I have found the way.... everything alone...prep...paint....
@@lebojay can't hurt to try it Just make sure you give a good amount a flash time before you clear. Putting it on heavy will require longer flash before clear that's the most important tip
I've had sealer primer that came out rough when I was getting use to how thin to make it and how to spray it and would just go back on it with an gray scotchbright then touch it up and keep going lol good video brother 👍
Hey Trigger Man! First, your videos are top shelf excellent! Keep up the amazing work! In your intro to this video you show a red fender. Could you post a video on that project?
@@jmg2545 thank you sir 🫡 that video is on my other channel. "Paints By Trigger" here is a link to the video 👇🏼 th-cam.com/video/_-SxVKDXN5I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SnmWTYXo8bp0tTFz
I refurbish go-karts and minibikes and I paint with can spray paint and I'm no means a professional painter but You Made Me Subscribe To Your Channel when you said and showed the way to lay a solid flat paint job because I've learned over the last few months practicing on panels that You out Of All The Videos I Have Watched Showed you can lay wet coats of everything you spray As long as it's Smooth and Still Get A Phenomenal Paint Job and I'm Not Throwing Shots at any of the other painters techniques,I'm Just Saying YOU SIR SHOW THAT IT CAN BE DONE,THANK YOU AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH YOU AND LEARN AND I PRAY GOD KEEPS BLESSING YOUR JOURNEY
Thank you so much UncleJake. I appreciate that. And yes all coats can be applied wet as long as you have a clean panel and a clean working environment. Only time you really have to spray light coats and be delicate with your coats is if your panel is not cleaned properly or your spaying environment isn't as ideal as we'd like. Then you have to put on the baby coats and make sure you don't get a reaction. But my panels are cleaned at least four times after being prepped so I can blast them wet. Thank you for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. 🫡🤎
Hey trigger every sprayed water base before brother? Man I sprayed it last week for the first time that stuff is horseshit the day that water base takes over solvent base is the day I go back to being a prepper 😂
@@The_paintman no I haven't. And not really looking forward to it either. But if and when it comes I'll get it down. I'm up for the challenge. Just like anything there is a learning curve. No prepping man you can do it 💪🏼💪🏼
The right speed hardener foe the clear is very important. I just tried amtech with mid hardener and it was 90+* and i couldnt get it to lay out to well. Also base coat has a lot of reducer so i rarely have orange peel in it. Good work as usual 👏
Hey TM....there is a way to fix this if you mess up on your base. you can use Speedokote Automotive base coat 500 Color Blender SMR-3500 or Intercoat clear.....Just clear over your base with this then sand it a bit knock down the orange peel and then clear it. put down like 2 coats of this clear product and sand it smooth. Easiest wet. knock down some of the dirt or whatever you want and then shoot your clear. Comes out perfect. I use this under blend areas. Plus if I get some nasty stuff I shoot some of this over the area, sand it smooth and maybe dust a little more base over the bad stuff. Once everything is perfectly smooth. Then Like you say I shoot my clear. You need to spend the time if you want it right. Other things I might do is if I end up with peel or some stuff I dont like I will sand the clear and respray.
@@3rekoatskustoms929 thank you 3rekoats 🤜🏼🤛🏼I mean you can sand it down. But that's a nightmare of a job. In my opinion. That's almost not even worth correcting. Just sand and polish on e the car is dry after clear coat
I can’t go super slow reducer cause I be wetting it too much be having sags ….gotta go regular slow reducer to have that flat shiny finish on that base
Hi Trigg, another great advice video (Thankyou) Are you using 1.3 fluid tips in both of these guns? And now that you have used them well now, what are your ideal pressures for both base and clearcoats man? Cheers brother
@@thetriggerman954 much appreciated man. I have both the 150 and the skull. So far so good but just looking for a good base to start with till i can find my own sweet spot. Legend 👍
Thank you. I would have used tinted sealer too, I would have blended adjacent panels. I would have taken the bumpers off I would have done a lot of things differently. But I work with what I have. That's what makes me a bad ass painter. Overcoming all of the obstacles and still turning out good work. Thanks for watching sir 🫡💪🏼
So, I've been painting 15 years and I do agree with some points made in this video. A skilled person can use a mid-grade gun and achieve the same outcome as a Devilbiss etc. as it's all about experience and the skills. Primer sealer I never had to spray an edge blender to let it lay flat. This part of painting depends on the product purchase and how it is reduced. If mixed and applied properly, then the base will lay flat right out of the gun. Also, the ambient of the boot and reducer/Hardner temp selected plays a big role in the outcome of the base and clear.
@@DIYeverything513 I've never used an edge blender either. It's all things that come with experience and you have to be actively trying to get better with each job, some guys just go through their whole career as a painter just being ok with "average" work which is fine but those you are actually trying to be a top tier painter will always strive to be better with each job. Thanks for chiming in 🫡
With every squeeze of the trigger you'll get 1 step closer to that dream. This is after hundreds of thousands of hours behind the gun. Almost 3 decades of painting. Yet there is still room for improvement. We all strive to be better 💪🏼♥️
@@thetriggerman954 I have to admit, I am an amateur compared to you, and I spray Acrylic paint, I'm not sure if it even possible to get your results from Acrylic straight from the gun without getting runs.
Bro, I did a Tesla bumper repair the same color. Those front bumpers are tricky, ask me how I know 😂... I had no peel, but that roll under bumper started dripping 😂💀 You are dead on with the layers up to the clear make the whole job. Just like you can not paint over crappy bodywork and expect glass results.
@@3Wheels1Block well you can paint over crappy bodywork it'll still be glass. It'll just just be a surfers paradise.. totally WAVY DUUUDE 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼 thanks for chiming in brother.
Not really, most likely you'll have to wet sand and polish if you want a glass look. So even if you have texture in your base you correct it in the end
thanks for this video man!! do you spray water or solvent? Any recommendations on how to clean before painting? to avoid cleaner marks. Saludos desde Chile!!!
wenn you shake the canister, do you hear the ball inside mixing the juice up???? (takes about 2 min according to the label). after that, youre good to go!!!!
@@thetriggerman954no booze. only use alcohol to clean the surfaces brother😆😆. but you did not blend in the paint this time. pffff. than youre really sure about the match. wasnt it mettalic??
Primer? Primer doesn't need to be smooth because you are going to sand it down anyway. Base you need to spray at whatever pressure that's gets you the finish you desire there is no one pressure to tell you for that. Also it varies depending on the spray gun you're using.
I want to paint my suv, first time ever doing it, diy. What recommendations can you give I am going for a candy apple red Will be using a harbor freight spray gun black widow not sure if HTE or HVLP
Good info as always, i to sprayed last week with the ani blk,scull edition did get some peel I think from watching you that you are moving faster with more air pressure I know thoes guns like air do you know what pressure you were at with trigger pulled think I’m moving to slow thanks for all your tips
@@thetriggerman954 thanks I was probably only 30 I’ll bump it up a few and try I comment on your video with chromabase about what’s next man you remember spraying lacquer with the old binks#7 ?
@@EdmundSampson-pd7vi you can. I personally wouldn't do it, chances are you will need to wet sand and buff the finished project so you can correct any peel in that process. Would save you tons of time and material.
$1100 for a walcom! That’s crazy! I thought Sata was expensive. Didn’t realize your shop did evs. That’s cool. Something the shop has to get certified on correct? I’ve heard the Tesla model x can’t have too many mils or the door sensors won’t work.
I've done a few Tesla's on the channel. And I didn't know about it the ships need to be certified I'm in the lab painting I focus on that 🤓 when you start worrying about things that don't concern you that's when you get runs 😅
TM, how should i check the viscosity of solvent base coat before i start throwing at the job? i ask because i just did a roof in 02c blue and the base sand piled up like a mother.... i am pretty sure the paint shop supplied the paint too thick, like to learn how to check this in future....
@@phordguy yep that's all my peppers job, she finishes all primer/paint areas with 600 and all blend panels with 800. All I do is bag it. Blow it and tack rag.
@@thetriggerman954 Sorry if you are repeating yourself, you may have covered it in another video already. Look forward to watching more. That porphis sounds awesome and looks like a really fast gun.
@@FrankHernandez-l7e This wasn't a video about air pressure keep looking through my videos and you'll find videos on air pressure. Can't talk about it every single video and all of the good comments that you read here are from people that watch my videos and they know. An air pressure is just another piece of the puzzle that makes a good paint job.
You don’t really have to lay your second coat of base that heavy. As long as you have good coverage, a drop coat will lay down the paint just as smooth. The first coat is what is most critical.
I'm a junkie for automotive paint videos whether it's about pigments or paint types or techniques ...I just came across you here today w this video and I gotta say we'll done brother you explain yourself very well so anyone can grasp it good stuff man I hit subscribe halfway through the clip...
Thank you for the sub 😁 I appreciate it brother 🙏🏼❤️
You watch GT?
I know nothing about painting a car but find these videos very entertaining. Amazing work.
@@peacems thank you sir. I'm glad you enjoyed 💪🏼
We back in the Lab! Your foundation is EVERYTHING!!! Wet on wet all day, Boys you got to get that paint to atomize or you will get peel!!!
Dang Trigger. That gun is fast. I found that my biggest problem with orange peal was I was not putting my clear coat on with enough overlap or not wet enough. Somebody quoted that the flattest paint is right at the edge of a run. I followed that and it has helped me a lot. Practice makes perfect.
Bro I'm not a painter but I came across your video and it was so relaxing I couldn't stop watching it....I am a Mechanic and I Thank You so much...
@@sumbamotor that's cool man. Thank you for the feedback I'm glad you enjoyed. Even though you're not a painter feel free to subscribe for more relaxation videos 😎 🧘🏼♂️🧘🏼♂️
@@sumbamotor drizzle D1 is comparable and has less overspray 👇🏼
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Thank you Playa for the reminder 🙏
You are so welcome
Your narration though. 😂 that's what's up. Keep it up trigger man.
Thanks man. I'm glad you Enjoyed 🫡🫵🏼
Triggerman I sure enjoyed this video. Being able to spray good wet coats of base and clear -- without runs -- is something that takes practice until it is second nature. Needless to say, I'm still working on it, lol.😊
Glad you enjoyed. And after a while or will become second nature. Effortless awesomeness coming soon 🙏🏼🫵🏼🫵🏼
Great advice and sweet result. How do you only have 10k subs? +1 today. I bought a somewhat cheap Devilbiss gun thinking watching videos was enough to spray silver base and clear for my first attempt. I was so wrong. You have so much skill, you see things without realizing it and adjust. Novices definitely need a lot of practice to develop more seeing and fixing in process skill. My second gun was an Ani R160-Q mini spray gun that sprayed better than the cheaper Devilbiss, which is now a primer gun. I took classes and invested in Devilbiss DV1 base and clear guns for my project cars. The better guns help, but I still need better skills especially with clear. Riding that fine line of glossy without major runs v. dry and no runs is still a struggle for me. Skills can spray bad guns, but good guns can't fix a lack of skills.
@@michaelb4060 I haven't even been on here for 2 years yet. Takes time man 🥺 spread the word and get some buddies to subscribe 😉 🤣🤣
You just gained a subscriber Trigger. My base and clear spray guns I bought as a pair from NAPA auto parts about 22 years ago. I think I paid 120 for the pair. I have multiple nozzles for both and they've only let me down once. I lost seal at the spray cap on my base gun with my last spray on my own pickup. I have cheaper guns for primer. Love the video Triggerman.
Thank you Cowboy 🤠 welcome to the channel. And yeah man some of those older guns like that are real Gems replace the bad parts and keep rolling. 🫡
Nice vid, one of the best vids i have seen, mikes so much sense
@@thebeaglebeat3615 thank you! Had you enjoyed
Fantastic content as always trigger. I have recently been using iwata guns for the first time and been painting pretty much fluid wide open. Definitely something new but I wanted to speed up. Great guns with some sweet results. The ws400 s2 certainly lays down wet and smooth in all applications. Keep up th hard work. Like I have said from the start, you have one of the best channels out there👍. Spray on brother 🤜🤛😎
Thank you Scot! yes those Iwatas will definitely give you more speed and that clear will take off running from you if you aren't careful 😜
Hey Trigger hope you good folks over there aint to hot as we have another heatwave here in the UK it's been 40C (104F) in my little booth this afternoon🥵I don't like this heat😰
I remember when I first started out doing this crazy hobby I was doing ok until I started using sealer (WoW) I then had peel and/or dieback in my clear this was so frustrating and found the sealer one of the hardest paints to get to grips with but I ended up finding one that works for me and now I'm getting good finishes that I'm really happy with👌as you said if your first substrate starts of flat then you are on your way to a flat glassy clear👏
Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us Trigger🙏👍John
That's right John luckily you found a product that worked well for you. And think some people never figure it out and have not so great finishes for a very long time. And yes man it's hot as balls here. 102° you should air condition your work shop 😜
Yeah I think I tried 3 or 4 dedicated sealers, I even tried a high build that had an additive to convert it to sealer it was a really good high build but not sealer but when I tried the Novol Under 325-00 4:1 VHS it was perfect for me👌I used all my old sealers with less thinners as a primer surfacer so no waste and it seemed to work fine🫣😂
I heard sealer is not for sanding..but what happens if it's not a flat coat.... can you light sand with like 600 or 800????
Depends on the product. Most are non sandable. Maybe if you have a sandable sealer it would be ok. But it's not common to sand sealer especially for the peel, maybe a few nibs but that's it
We out here watching triggerman waiting for him to drop the next vid In a couple hours Hahahha god bless you brother a god given gift to spray painting you are my bro
Thank you man. Less than 9 hours to go 😉😂
so much truth here - and also true for every paint application. People think that dipping your car will cover stuff up because it is so thick. Spoiler: All dip coats together are thick, but the individual coats you lay down are still thin and will follow every chip, dimple and whatever is on your old, bad paintjob. Saw a car with clear coat flaked off partially, all of the craters were still showing up after 10 layers of dip.
Preparation is king. I was once told when restoring a part that 90% of the process is sanding it smooth - I'd even say that is on the low side. You cannot really filler up what you messed up in preparation, unless you use so much filler that a slam against a panel will send bricks flying ^^
You say tips and tricks. Ain't no tricks - just skills!
@@moedog07 😎 my man 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@@thetriggerman954saludos desde Palenque Chiapas México
Can you give me the link to that GS300 you painted. Thanks in advance @@thetriggerman954
@@thetriggerman954Nevermind I found it lol
Tha ani f160 is sick budget gun. It was actually the first hvlp gun I ever owned. Still use it now and then.
Rarely do I spray sealer because I have difficulty in keeping it super smooth. I mix as surfacer then light sand for tooth and smoothness. It could be the product I use as it does set fast, but I still say it's my lack of skills in that department
Probably the product if t sets fast then most likely it's coming out with more texture than you'd like. Play around with different sealers maybe you can even ad a splash of reducer. Sealer will definitely give you more peel than desired unless you can figure out a good combination to combat it, whether it's materials,gun, application. I think when they made the lph300 they labeled it as their "sealer gun" which kinda makes sense that split nozzle atomizing sealer laying it down flat, although most of us use it for clear 😅
Surely if someone can't yet get sealer down without excessive peel then they're not yet gonna be able to get clear coat down without the same. I always treat my sealer like clear coat. How that sealer looks is how the clear is gonna look. I'd be looking at gun pressure, gun distance from panel/speed, temperature/humidity and viscosity of product all being potential culprits of excessive orange peel. Also products can be different requiring different application methods. Over time you learn how to control your application method to achieve specific finishes
@@joshzimmer right on Josh 💪🏼 well said
I'm new to the channel but not the game. I 100% agree one thing you could make a video about is the opposite problem when your job stands out because it's better than factor
Thanks man. I made a video on that about a year and a half ago It's somewhere back down in my videos It's on a brand new red Ford bronco. Actually there's another one I did about a year ago it's on here as well on a red Chevrolet Silverado complete side tailgate and left quarter. It definitely happens It's rare but there will be that time to where your paint job It's too flat and does not have the factory peel and you have to redo it. 😭
@@thetriggerman954 👍I'll be working my way through your videos now. It's definitely becoming more of a problem as manufacturers seem to be letting standards slip
@@colinhamer6506 yep and is our job to match/replicate what they spit out lol. Thanks for watching Colin 🫡
@@thetriggerman954 Have you had a new maserati 🤣
Nice job and narration Trigger. Always learn something from watching you
Thank you Dave. Glad you enjoyed
Adjusting my overlap and pressure while spraying sealer, spraying it wet like clear coat helped quite a bit when i first started spraying professionally. The difficult part was adjusting my technique for base coat particularly in blend areas. Using a wet bed with the base coat helped smooth out transition areas and using the correct temperature reducer helped with laying film build without runs or mottling, using another half coat while still wet for orientation on difficult colors also helped keep the flake laid out.. it aint as easy as those cavemen make it out to be.
Almost all of my spray guns have been salvaged from the buckets of shame, abandoned in stripper by lazy painters and rebuilt for pennies compared to these crazy $1000 guns. great content.
@@genocide98 lol @ cavemen 😂 that would be me 🙋🏼♂️ it all just takes a little time. But when a person is determined to learn and master the skill it happens sooner than later. Sounds like you were determined and got success. Congrats man. 🫡
I've been painting since I was 19, (that's 55 years ago). Been using old Binks guns. Because of you I started looking at the Black Widow. Had a hard time letting go of 200 bucks for something use for a hobby. On their discount table was a Black Widow (out of the box discount) $89.99. I bought it...brand new.
Thanks the all the info you put out. Even us old people can learn.
Mark
Salute to you sir for paving the way for guys like me 🫡 you're greatly appreciated here. It's my pleasure to have an opportunity to help you. And if there is anything else I can help you with don't hesitate to ask Mark. This trade saved my life, literally so it runs a little deeper than most. 🙏🏼❤️ Have a blessed weekend my man 💪🏼
thanks triggerman pity I'm in south africa now I can only do small jobs but I'm learning so much from u I wish I had this experience before I got sick.but I'm enjoying every video of urs awesome God bless u and ur show and information
Thank you Anthony I'm glad you're enjoying the channel 💪🏼
Dammit man!!
Had me LMAO!
Best Sprayin video out there😎
@@rcamoonpie648 lmao 🤣🤣 thanks Moonpie. I appreciate it man 👊🏼👊🏼
Lowering the air pressure with slow reducer helps for sure.
@@firstnationsindian8062 🫡
Pure logic! I just recently sprayed my crv. First day slick next day blurry and dieback. I believe I put too much reducer in my 2:1 high solids clear that speedokote SMR 42. Gonna da the clear with 800 and try again without reducer
I think that's an acrylic urethane. Not really The best stuff in my opinion supposed to be super glossy but doesn't have longevity. Good for like used car stuff but not on your personal vehicle that you plan to hold on to. Just my opinion
Thank you for the advise just enough said for me to grab the am tech clear with slow activator. I’m going to reclear with the Porphis 717. Man that atomizes like vapor! So we will see. How long does it take to get your clear when you order from Amazon, more than 7 days?
@@dardenvern I'm not sure, we get it from a supply shop around the corner from my shop. So I'm not exactly sure on that one man, sorry. But I haven't heard anyone complain that it's too long.
Its going to be difficult for new painters to pull this off with metallic colors and not get mottle. I would say to try it but be prepared to do your drop coats if you dont pull it off.
Just started painting last year Ive painted 2 cars so far I'm about to start painting another car tomorrow I've done really good so far getting regular finish not so much orange peel but I'm definitely trying this on my next project as it's black paint I am hoping to see great results I believe in your technique you make every gun spray and make your jobs look so smooth I'm hoping to achieve this on my next project thank you for all your knowledge dope stuff thanks trigger man👍
Awesome man, good luck on the next one 🤞🏼 if you ever have any questions don't hesitate to ask 💪🏼
Maaann. Trigger you trippin bro. You ain’t got on a paint suit then you do. Must be the magic. 😆. Awesome video man. Love how you break things down to help others. Thank you for sharing your tips and techniques.
Lmao man those fumes were starting to kick up had to throw that sucker on. And yes I do magic on the side. I'm glad you enjoyed the video Joe 💪🏼♥️
You'll be fine without one as long as you're not breaking a sweat (thats when your poores are open)
@@darylarmentrout252guess I'm doomed because I'm sweating soon as I walk in that big oven lol thanks man 👊🏼
@thetriggerman954 I don't care, when I step out the booth and light a cigarette 😂
@@thetriggerman954 I definitely want one of those paint guns. Freshy
Triggeeeeerrrrrrr...... Power maaaaaannnn😊 Every day i paint cars the same way with you brother.... Bumpers on.(Not all jobs)...I have found the way.... everything alone...prep...paint....
True 💪🏼
I never put my base on that wet. I will try it. You know more than me, for sure. Thanks for the tips.
@@lebojay can't hurt to try it Just make sure you give a good amount a flash time before you clear. Putting it on heavy will require longer flash before clear that's the most important tip
Audience, Great video and teaching. I'm no painter, but good to know your information.
@@donaldtate3372 thank you Donald 💪🏼
Peace. The quality of your work is very impressive. I would love to have you paint my car. Where are you located?
@@gawaincarter5776 thank you sir. I'm in Pompano Beach Florida
Learnt from day one trigg paint will only mirror whats underneath so make sure your jobs are slick , all stages😊😊😊
That's right Mr Brown #facts
Do you recommend sanding the orange peel out the primer until you can spray it flatter with practice?
Painting 101
I've had sealer primer that came out rough when I was getting use to how thin to make it and how to spray it and would just go back on it with an gray scotchbright then touch it up and keep going lol good video brother 👍
Thank you 👊🏼
@thetriggerman954 to me sealer is the most important coat cause like you said it's the base to the whole masterpiece!
@@wrightsrrt871 you're right. I have my flattest jobs when there is no sealer. It definitely is the main factor.
You did lay that base smooth asf .......Nice work as always Sir!
Appreciate that David. 🫡
some bases you need to spray dry.....or it will fisheye. so it all depends.
Hey Trigger Man! First, your videos are top shelf excellent! Keep up the amazing work!
In your intro to this video you show a red fender. Could you post a video on that project?
@@jmg2545 thank you sir 🫡 that video is on my other channel. "Paints By Trigger" here is a link to the video 👇🏼
th-cam.com/video/_-SxVKDXN5I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SnmWTYXo8bp0tTFz
I refurbish go-karts and minibikes and I paint with can spray paint and I'm no means a professional painter but You Made Me Subscribe To Your Channel when you said and showed the way to lay a solid flat paint job because I've learned over the last few months practicing on panels that You out Of All The Videos I Have Watched Showed you can lay wet coats of everything you spray As long as it's Smooth and Still Get A Phenomenal Paint Job and I'm Not Throwing Shots at any of the other painters techniques,I'm Just Saying YOU SIR SHOW THAT IT CAN BE DONE,THANK YOU AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH YOU AND LEARN AND I PRAY GOD KEEPS BLESSING YOUR JOURNEY
Thank you so much UncleJake. I appreciate that. And yes all coats can be applied wet as long as you have a clean panel and a clean working environment. Only time you really have to spray light coats and be delicate with your coats is if your panel is not cleaned properly or your spaying environment isn't as ideal as we'd like. Then you have to put on the baby coats and make sure you don't get a reaction. But my panels are cleaned at least four times after being prepped so I can blast them wet. Thank you for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. 🫡🤎
Thank u TriggerMan prep is th key word always💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽God Bless🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Welcome Richard 🫡
Hey trigger every sprayed water base before brother? Man I sprayed it last week for the first time that stuff is horseshit the day that water base takes over solvent base is the day I go back to being a prepper 😂
@@The_paintman no I haven't. And not really looking forward to it either. But if and when it comes I'll get it down. I'm up for the challenge. Just like anything there is a learning curve. No prepping man you can do it 💪🏼💪🏼
The right speed hardener foe the clear is very important. I just tried amtech with mid hardener and it was 90+* and i couldnt get it to lay out to well.
Also base coat has a lot of reducer so i rarely have orange peel in it.
Good work as usual 👏
Thank you sir. I usually use slow with that AmTech especially 90+ degrees. Once you dial it in you'll love it. Thanks for watching 💪🏼♥️
Try this outside and you understand that you have to do exactly opposite. Or you get bugs, dust, etc sticking like to a magnet.
@@akierum try it under water and you'll understand you'll get water and fish swimming to it. 🤷🏼♂️
Hey Trigger, fantastic video Brother 🙏👍👌.....
......And a MASSIVE congratulations on 10K Subs, Sir. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
All the best! Steve 🙏👍
@@srodgie thank you Steve I appreciate you my man 🤜🏼🤛🏼🫡
Gotta watch the flash and you good for next coat!
Of course lol gotta wait for the clear to dry and you good to wash the car 😀
Very nice job with an inexpensive gun.
Then you Neil 🫡
Another great informative video as always. Keep up the good work man
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Hey TM....there is a way to fix this if you mess up on your base. you can use Speedokote Automotive base coat 500 Color Blender SMR-3500 or Intercoat clear.....Just clear over your base with this then sand it a bit knock down the orange peel and then clear it. put down like 2 coats of this clear product and sand it smooth. Easiest wet. knock down some of the dirt or whatever you want and then shoot your clear. Comes out perfect. I use this under blend areas. Plus if I get some nasty stuff I shoot some of this over the area, sand it smooth and maybe dust a little more base over the bad stuff. Once everything is perfectly smooth. Then Like you say I shoot my clear. You need to spend the time if you want it right. Other things I might do is if I end up with peel or some stuff I dont like I will sand the clear and respray.
.Good video my friend. Can you talk about things you can do to fix orange peel in base before you get to the clear?
@@3rekoatskustoms929 thank you 3rekoats 🤜🏼🤛🏼I mean you can sand it down. But that's a nightmare of a job. In my opinion. That's almost not even worth correcting. Just sand and polish on e the car is dry after clear coat
That looks awesome. I’m chasing that type of finish. Thanks for the advice. Love the videos
Right on💪🏼
The gun sprays nice for under $160. Wonderful job as always Trigga! Keep kickin' that paint knowledge!😊 Trigga Troll is always hilarious😂😂
@@odessahallmenefee you got it Odessa 🤗♥️
Hey trigger...nice work
..what were your gun settings that you used on that job
@@tomhorn3135 thank you Tom, for clear 3 turns out of the fluid and 1 full turn in on the fan. And about 33 psi
I can’t go super slow reducer cause I be wetting it too much be having sags ….gotta go regular slow reducer to have that flat shiny finish on that base
@@MRbuffaloBILL I don't go extra slow either I use slow most of the time. But I know what you're saying sags in base is 😭😭
@@thetriggerman954 shit be having me tight😂 and I ain’t sitting there half a trigger crap, it be hot AF 😄
Hi Trigg, another great advice video (Thankyou)
Are you using 1.3 fluid tips in both of these guns? And now that you have used them well now, what are your ideal pressures for both base and clearcoats man? Cheers brother
Thank you Ryan 🫡
Both 1.3
f-160 at 30 psi
And the ANI black at 33 psi
@@thetriggerman954 much appreciated man. I have both the 150 and the skull. So far so good but just looking for a good base to start with till i can find my own sweet spot. Legend 👍
that came out fantastic!
@@WJHandyDad 🫡
Cool video, I would have used tintable sealer, utech 460 is pretty good, then you wouldn’t need so many coats to cover it
Thank you. I would have used tinted sealer too, I would have blended adjacent panels. I would have taken the bumpers off I would have done a lot of things differently. But I work with what I have. That's what makes me a bad ass painter. Overcoming all of the obstacles and still turning out good work. Thanks for watching sir 🫡💪🏼
Nice job again Trigger. What psi did you spray at, I've heard the guns like 30 plus. How much overspray did you have in the booth. Thanks man.
Thank you sir and what you heard was correct. It was 32-33 psi and a pretty good amount of overspray, but the results are well worth it
i use sandable 2k primer/sealer,,sand with 600 before base,,and use lil reducer in base n clear...smooth fimish errtime
You got the recipe 🙌🏼
@@thetriggerman954 do what works for you is the best way right
Gotta watch viscosity too. Thicker paint is harder to get to flow out.
Yes sir
Subscribed, beautiful job
@@ontariobill1 thank you sir 🫡 welcome to the channel 🤎
Excellent work and instruction! Thank you. God bless
@@bradsrestorations1085 thank you Brad. I appreciate your continued support my man ❤️🙏🏼
The compact looks like it puts out the material and a has decent fan on it. Might have to snag one.
It's the full size not the compact. But it does put out a good amount of material
I like that he's bigging up ani.
Yea man he's pretty freaking cool guy isn't he? I love all of his videos 😍
Thanks Trigger for this video
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Great video. Do you have any videos on how you would spray candy apple paint
On the "paints by trigger" channel. My second channel i experiment with a few candy test panels
Trigga, if you shoot sealer dry or with orange peal, would you sand it and reseal it or just sand it flat and goto base coat? Another stellar job 👍
I would just leave it and have a mother peel in the job. I didn't really care about the peel.
Always a pleasure trig!
Thanks Adam hope you're staying cool over there I know it's hot AF 🔥🔥
Most people haven't really looked at factory paint when they are sitting in the showroom. I have found dirt, runs, and massive orange peel.
@@randywiddis 😲
So, I've been painting 15 years and I do agree with some points made in this video. A skilled person can use a mid-grade gun and achieve the same outcome as a Devilbiss etc. as it's all about experience and the skills. Primer sealer I never had to spray an edge blender to let it lay flat. This part of painting depends on the product purchase and how it is reduced. If mixed and applied properly, then the base will lay flat right out of the gun. Also, the ambient of the boot and reducer/Hardner temp selected plays a big role in the outcome of the base and clear.
@@DIYeverything513 I've never used an edge blender either. It's all things that come with experience and you have to be actively trying to get better with each job, some guys just go through their whole career as a painter just being ok with "average" work which is fine but those you are actually trying to be a top tier painter will always strive to be better with each job. Thanks for chiming in 🫡
💯 percent factual. Looking good man
@@garynewman4908 💪🏼💪🏼🫵🏼
you make me sick that is so perfect, you don't even need to polish it. I can only dream of that sort of quality.
With every squeeze of the trigger you'll get 1 step closer to that dream. This is after hundreds of thousands of hours behind the gun. Almost 3 decades of painting. Yet there is still room for improvement. We all strive to be better 💪🏼♥️
@@thetriggerman954 I have to admit, I am an amateur compared to you, and I spray Acrylic paint, I'm not sure if it even possible to get your results from Acrylic straight from the gun without getting runs.
@@kallmewas acrylic clear coat actually shines way better. In my opinion. It's glossier but doesn't last as long
Bro, I did a Tesla bumper repair the same color. Those front bumpers are tricky, ask me how I know 😂... I had no peel, but that roll under bumper started dripping 😂💀
You are dead on with the layers up to the clear make the whole job. Just like you can not paint over crappy bodywork and expect glass results.
@@3Wheels1Block well you can paint over crappy bodywork it'll still be glass. It'll just just be a surfers paradise.. totally WAVY DUUUDE 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
thanks for chiming in brother.
@@thetriggerman954 😂💀
🤙Thanks for the advice ,,it’s a game changer
@@asksteevies4941 more than welcome brother 🫡💪🏼 glad it helped
If you're on a super tight budget and doing a single panel with cans, does the same rules apply?
Not really, most likely you'll have to wet sand and polish if you want a glass look. So even if you have texture in your base you correct it in the end
thanks for this video man!! do you spray water or solvent? Any recommendations on how to clean before painting? to avoid cleaner marks.
Saludos desde Chile!!!
@@MSCPINTURAAUTOMOTRIZ more than welcome man. I spray solvent.
Another use for Like90 Quick Check! Thanks for sharing the tip!
@@dougbadham3642 you got it man 👊🏼👊🏼
wenn you shake the canister, do you hear the ball inside mixing the juice up???? (takes about 2 min according to the label). after that, youre good to go!!!!
Ball inside? Man you started drinking too early 🍻🤣
@@thetriggerman954no booze. only use alcohol to clean the surfaces brother😆😆. but you did not blend in the paint this time. pffff. than youre really sure about the match. wasnt it mettalic??
I think looks good ... good info as usual ... really enjoy your videos ... well delivered ...
Thank you Joe I appreciate it man 👊🏼
So whats the best pressure to shoot out primer and base coat and clear coat also how do you reduce the primer so it can lay down nice and flat?
Primer? Primer doesn't need to be smooth because you are going to sand it down anyway. Base you need to spray at whatever pressure that's gets you the finish you desire there is no one pressure to tell you for that. Also it varies depending on the spray gun you're using.
I want to paint my suv, first time ever doing it, diy. What recommendations can you give I am going for a candy apple red
Will be using a harbor freight spray gun black widow not sure if HTE or HVLP
For a first time and you chose to go with candy apple red. You got some big balls my friend. The HTE would be a good choice for sure
Extremely helpful tips. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! You're more than welcome 🫡
Good info as always, i to sprayed last week with the ani blk,scull edition did get some peel I think from watching you that you are moving faster with more air pressure I know thoes guns like air do you know what pressure you were at with trigger pulled think I’m moving to slow thanks for all your tips
More than welcome David. I had it at 33 at the bottom gauge. I took the digital gauge off from up top.
@@thetriggerman954 thanks I was probably only 30 I’ll bump it up a few and try I comment on your video with chromabase about what’s next man you remember spraying lacquer with the old binks#7 ?
Look how nice that edge is on that fan pattern soft edge thing is atomizing good asf
@@robsantiago118 yeahhh boiiii 🥳🥳
If you do get some orange peel on your first base coat, can you rub it out with some high grain wet and dry?
@@EdmundSampson-pd7vi you can. I personally wouldn't do it, chances are you will need to wet sand and buff the finished project so you can correct any peel in that process. Would save you tons of time and material.
@@thetriggerman954 thanks heaps .
$1100 for a walcom! That’s crazy! I thought Sata was expensive. Didn’t realize your shop did evs. That’s cool. Something the shop has to get certified on correct? I’ve heard the Tesla model x can’t have too many mils or the door sensors won’t work.
I've done a few Tesla's on the channel. And I didn't know about it the ships need to be certified I'm in the lab painting I focus on that 🤓 when you start worrying about things that don't concern you that's when you get runs 😅
@@thetriggerman954 that’s fair! That’s just what I was told. My uncle said he’s shop wont touch them because they aren’t certified.
Man! I can lay it out with the $20 harbor freight bottom pot gun!!!
You da man 😉💪🏼
@@thetriggerman954 too many people over think it and think bigger is better! I say just spray it and let it lay out!!!
Yo trigger what psi you sprayed with skull candy gun😮😮😮
32 psi gets the best results for me
TM, how should i check the viscosity of solvent base coat before i start throwing at the job? i ask because i just did a roof in 02c blue and the base sand piled up like a mother.... i am pretty sure the paint shop supplied the paint too thick, like to learn how to check this in future....
You can always order a viscosity cup online. When I first started the trade we actually used to use those. That way there's no guesswork
Where do you start on the car before filming? Do you final sand with 6 or 8 hundy and tape it up / cover it up or is that your preppers job ?
@@phordguy yep that's all my peppers job, she finishes all primer/paint areas with 600 and all blend panels with 800. All I do is bag it. Blow it and tack rag.
@@thetriggerman954 Sorry if you are repeating yourself, you may have covered it in another video already. Look forward to watching more. That porphis sounds awesome and looks like a really fast gun.
Do you reduce to the paint makers recommendations or do you thin a little more than that?
Only color I do that with is black. If you try that on most colors it will be too transparent and you will have a hard time getting coverage.
Excellent mate.....
@@mreightytwenty8709 thank you 🤎
Great Job Trigger 👏 👍🏻 👌 💪🔥💯
Thank you James 💪🏼
@thetriggerman954 You're Very Welcome Big Trigger!!! I really appreciate you for these great vids,You're sharing with us!!💪👍🏻💯
Trigger, how do you spray single stage paint?I'm in a dilemma
@@SamBerchiolly here you go my man 👇🏼 th-cam.com/video/mltzO0USULo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=l9XBb_Kqrar2uY2u
lots of good comments from the guys. but you didn't mention how to set up a gun for the beginners ,,air pressure is important !!
@@FrankHernandez-l7e This wasn't a video about air pressure keep looking through my videos and you'll find videos on air pressure. Can't talk about it every single video and all of the good comments that you read here are from people that watch my videos and they know. An air pressure is just another piece of the puzzle that makes a good paint job.
Respect ,Nice !great Tip Bro
@@demarcoglass4104 🫡💪🏼
so much free game. appreciate it man
More than welcome. And thank you for watching 👊🏼
What is tip for base and clear? Thanks!
@@trevcessna1723 1.3 more than welcome
Nice job 👍👍👍
@@brddukaty7460 thank you sir 🫡
You don’t really have to lay your second coat of base that heavy. As long as you have good coverage, a drop coat will lay down the paint just as smooth. The first coat is what is most critical.
@@3n1fss thank you for teaching me the way. You're the man 💪🏼