How to Stop and Fix Orange Peel when Spraying Paint
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In this video we cover to how get get rid of orange peel in your paint and how to fix orange peel when spraying paint. We cover what causes orange peel and tips to fix it. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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This is SOOOO helpful! I am a furniture refinisher and I kept hearing (before I bought a spray gun) about how to check your pattern on a box before you start on your project, but no one ever explained HOW the pattern is supposed to look or what to look for! So that didn't help me to check on a box when I didn't know what to look for. THANK YOU for describing the ways to fix orange peel and what to look for and HOW to fix it!! The best video I have seen!! I can't explain how grateful I am for this video. You're making a difference and helping a lot of people, no doubt! :)
Most informative video on orange peel I've seen yet. Happy to watch one that isn't all about wet sanding.
This is the best video I've found to help clean up your spray pattern. Good job man, thanks
This is best video I've see on orange peel reduction so far. Really good thanks!
Hi guys,
Thanks for taking the time to make and post this. It’s helped a lot.
Cheers 🍻
I was thinking my problem had to do with the viscosity of the paint and the nozzle size. I've looked everywhere for something on timing viscosity using a #2 cup and nozzle size. But this was far more informative. I will be trying switching things up tonight. Thanks for the video.
Great video-why haven’t I heard this before? Thank you for posting!!
Outstanding video. Thank you for the explanations, especially about air pressures and thinning for me. That helped a lot.
Great video. Very informative and lots of good information.
Success at last! Great video...I was spraying cabinets with a striped orange peel effect. I couldn't master the technique. After upping the pressure and thinning Ben Moore Advance from 10% to 15-17% they have a beautiful smooth coat to them. Your pattern tips were great. Thanks for the instruction.
I have noticed this affect at the edges, which I called "chunky" and was wondering if this lead to OP, thank you for confirming this and providing a road map to overcome it!
This guy knows what he is talking about. Great video, excellent knowledge here.
Brilliant .... Excellent tutorial and easy to follow. Thank you.
great video, loads of good advice very nicely put,
yoooo bro thank you, well said and put together, clean str8 to the point
Great tutorial.
Brilliant explanation. Thanks!
Following you suggestions about increasing spray pressure, for the first time I painted without any orange peel. Thanks very much.
you made ma better painter very well explained right to point thank you thank you
these videos are gold
This is really good information. Thank you 👍
Thanks for the tips, Idubbbz.
I really appreciate your video and information. I've been struggling with orange peel on most of my projects and have been searching for how to prevent it. Your presentation really sheds a lot of light on the issues. Question: Are the air pressures you are going by with the trigger pulled so I think that means at the cap, or without the trigger pulled?
Awesome video! Thanks.
very helpful!! Thank you!
Great and helpfull informations budy! Thanks!
Thank you for sharing having extreme orange peel with turbine 5stage 1.3 cap manufacturers instructions no thinning 1to4 paint laid excellent not good at all with clear
Very helpful thanks.
Thanks for the tips! Planning on painting my first car soon and these tips will definitely help!
You did a nice job on the presentation, kept my attention.
Yes he did
Well done bra. Thanks
Great video Pittsburgh ….Thx for the steelers and the explanation
thanks man,big help
I had really bad orange peel when I painted my snowmobile hood with endura paint for the first time. Asked a friend who uses the same paint and he said I had orange peel. After watching this video I believe my air pressure should of been higher and not letting so much paint go through the gun. Was all stressed out how bad the hood turned out but can’t wait to try again. Good thing I bought more paint than I needed lol. Like they saying goes, you live, you learn haha.
@dliguori25 my second attempt went way better but bought a better paint gun and air regulator as the other one failed. Yah I don’t like using cardboard to test out my pattern never thought of wood tho
Hi thanks for the vid. I’ve had orange peel with primer on mdf but dried flat..
Awesome video, thank you so much. My only slight suggestion is to improve the camera work!
Thanks for this
This is SOOOOOOO F)&*(^ helpful!!!! I love it. All the way from KY.
Helpful!
Great information thank you
I got a steam shower that has some scratches in the powder coat. I want to remove this black powder coating that’s on the outside of the glass and then just use a frosting. I do have a small sandblaster what grit would be OK to use if that would be the way to remove this powder coating on the tempered glass.
I'm HANDS DOWN the uncontested champion of most orange peel and runs east of the Mississippi. My paint jobs look like a golf ball that is crying at the same time. 💯👌
What about the option of spraying the paint on thicker with multiple passes so that the beads of orange peel melt together? I really appreciate your helpful videos.
You're a great teacher for the guys who want to take car painting to a pro level. But I'm painting a 24 year ole Pontiac, and I just want to use spray-cans. But I haven't seen information on this subject on You Tube, on such a professional level.
Thanks
Thanks for painting tips, love Your videos, find them useful!
What about that free painting course, it`s online or real life at your place?
The course is a digtial course we do provide training with equipment purchases in person to though
free online! pittsburghsprayequip.com/painters-training
in person with equipment purchase as well
What's a promo code yall?
How close should I spray from vehicle for base, clear, sealer and primer am getting more used to the PPS system cups but they fell off my spray gun more than once but now I know am supposed to put the the screw part the round circle part on last. And the plastic cup on first with the liner and the bottom plastic part that you hook up to the spray gun first before you screw on.
Is your needle leaking against the fluid tip? I keep seeing drips coming out after closing off the air.
If you get some orange peel can you wet sand it with 2000 grit, smooth it out before putting clear coat on it?
Sir, I want to ask, when you were experimenting with the results of the paint by raising the wind pressure. Did you pull the trigger fully, or just throw it in half?
your video is really informative but still i do have a question . hope you can solve this easily.
Question : imagine you need a thickness around 40-50 microns , at a very short time Eg. 1 second , so how could you possibly prevent the orange peel in this situation?
Complications ;
1.higher viscosity
2. 2k painting
3.less time
hope you can solve this!
Nice video I been trying to work with those guns ,can tell me what model of gun and brand pls . Thank you
Hi Erick would you let me know what coatings you spray this would let me recommend a spray gun
Can you thin a 2k high build primer which uses hardener? The instructions say 4:1 mix of primer : harder but can I add thinners ??? I'm a newbie just done a panel and it's come out really bad orange peel, pressure on gun is 25 psi, 1.4 nozzle, am I sending too much of the primer out ???
You can, but you always have to check with manufacturer what type of thinner you can use with it. Also high build primers never end up flat without thinning them, because that's how you get high build up properties. When you thin it, it becomes more like a standard primer, thin it even more and you get the sealer. 1.4 nozzle is way to small to be able to send too much primer out. I use 1.8 nozzle for high build primers.
Finley a video that explains what works to reduce orange pill
how much psi would you expect to use for a compliant devilbiss advance hd gun spraying acrylic polyurethane topcoat? im using a 1.4 tip and the paint viscosity is set at 28 on din4 cup. I seem to have to use 45 psi at which seems excessive the guns manufacturer recommends 29psi. thanks
Hi the 29 is the max recommended to maintain the guns transfer efficiency if your above that it means the paint is to thick for a hvlp or lvmp (compliant ) air cap or needs thinned more or might due better through a smaller tip (less paint to atomize at a time ). If you share the paint brand name and product I can check a bit further on if compliant caps will work with it
this might be a stupid question sorry if it is im trying to learn. but if my paint was too thick would it make it not atomize? I bought some cheap RTS paint just to practice with it said I could thin it but I didn't and when I sprayed it it almost seemed like it was spitting and the end result was a lot of orange peel. should I have thinned it or did I mess something else up?
Hi there if your paint is to thick for the spray equipment your using it can prevent you from getting a smooth finish some paint can't be thinned properly to get good results with certain equipment (hvlp) sprayers being the big example
Probably better to use a darker colour for camera purposes
Any tips on reducing orange peel if using water based acrilyc lacquer in an aerosol can?
Not much can be done with aerosol only option ensure the room is 70 degrees or warmer and so is can heat helps reduce visocosity
Applying more material to prolong flashing time also helps as your clear coat has bit more time to level out while drying. But in such case you risking of having clear coat runs or fogging. So it takes some practice to get decent results by using this trick. Also laying panel flat while doing this helps a lot.
Somewhere I learned to thin my paint until it got to the cosistency of milk. I don't know if that was good advive or not.
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I could not see orange peel , all I saw was an out of focus disk. I don't think what I see at home is orange peel. I get a wrinkled patch that appears at random and it can spread from an initial starting point. I don't know what that is called either. It is like the paint from the first coat is reacting with the second coat to create the phenomena.
Great information, however, spraying on that piece makes it Impossible to SEE the Results of changes. Would be Better if spraying on sheet of paper, showing progression.
I'm going to buy 0.8mm spray gun for clear, what do you guys think?
Usually anywhere between a .8,1.0 or 1
2 is typical for clear .8 may be a bit to small for larger projects
what spraygun is being used?
A good one
So will an airless sprayer always produce an orange peel finish?
Hi Dean airless sprayers will typically not produce a automotive finish and will have some orange peel. You can make the airless an air assist airless or use a fine finish airless tip and get finishes closer to automotive quality with an airless
Pittsburgh Spray Equipment Co Thanks. New to spraying but want to spray my own furniture which is mainly cabinets. I’ve been going back and fourth deciding to get the Graco gxff or Graco finish 9.5 HVLP. Think I’ll go with the HVLP. I’m going to be using pre cat lacquers. I assume I’ll have to clean the HVLP after each coat or can I leave the tip in water for the 30mins before I can apply another coat? I’ll be using Morrells paint if that helps.
@@deanmartin7593 I would clean the equipment briefly so you don't get hardened coating and create problems
Pittsburgh Spray Equipment Co So just clean the tip but leave the material in the cup?
@@deanmartin7593 lacquer thinner, if you're using pre cat lacquer. Run lacquer thinner through the hose/cup/ and gun. Even after you done spraying.
Also is there harm in over airing the mixture? Is over airing even possible? Every air supply is different and a typical air compressor is not going to supply the same pressures that yours do so I can’t ask for your advice on which PSI to work at
Just too dry. You should decrease air and increase fluid.
Put a regulator on the air line coming into the gun
What kind of gun are you using?
Heat up=viscosity down
how is that 1080 megapixels mate?
I’ve thinned loads using a 1.5 and 1.8 tip with a 5 stage turbine but still orange peel
I personally don’t think turbines put out enough pressure
You are right turbines don't have the same power that top end compressed air guns do so for industrial paints they usually won't have the power to do the job
I just used a small compressor and had orange peel everywhere 🤦ruined
What size tip is best for painting a car and reducing orange peel?
Depends base coat usually a 1.4 1.6 or 1.8 clear 1.2
1.3 paint and clear
1.8 for primers
2.0 for primers and flakes
Also what do you mean by HVLP efficiency?
Sorry for butting in but hvlp means a gun that is high volume low pressure.Which translates into more paint less air.He said 20 psi on his gun.Back then painters used 40 to 55 psi to atomize paint.
I think efficiency refers to how much paint lands and stays actually on the surface, as opposed to be bounced back from the surface and floating around in the air of your garage. Or it may also mean how much paint you can expell with the same given amount of air, idk 🙄
@@filibertobarrera3839 yes typically 10 psi on d cap..but this gun need more air consumption..so you alslo need ah high volume air compressor at least 12-15 cfm
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Ubtitulos porfavor
Can't see anything you're trying to show with that camera not focusing right
Too fricken detailed and comp for diy jesus
Just turn fluid down. Duh
Good lesson but bad video quality...
Well, was pretty good considering it was filmed with a Potato v 2.1.
get better cameras to display pitt stuff . sheesh i cant see the difference . love this guy trying but lackluster camera he can spray o rattlecan and see nothing . keep the guy add camera, if you want to sell the spyayer
focus son you have shown nothing appreciate the effort but no show