What Happens when You Breed Blue and Red Neocaridina Shrimp together?
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2023
- Neocaridina shrimp, also known as cherry shrimp, are a delight to keep in a small aquarium and there is a wide range of different colours to choose from. Once you have more than one colour then there can be a rather strong temptation to cross the two together. And that is what i have done, just to see what would happen :)
My favourite fishy stuff! (yes these are affiliate links :) )
Lights
Nicrew Classic LED - amzn.to/3fG3Uv6 - Traditional led light that's got a nice high output in a white/cool colour range. Makes plants look extra green.
Nicrew SKY - amzn.to/3Ktn45U - really nice light for natural looking tanks, also the one I use for filming.
Filters
Pat Mini - amzn.to/3fE1u0k - popular for a reason, just a superb little filter thats great for shrimp tanks and fish alike.
ASAP - amzn.to/3nBuytp - the old favourite and the one i return to most frequently.
Air Pump
AP-3 Kit : amzn.to/34UMA3q - Great little air pump, not a silent runner, but has been very reliable for me.
Tanks
Scaper 45 - amzn.to/3KBxG2H - a lovely high quality tank that comes with a super strong light, and a decent enough hang on back filter - perfect for newbies and scapers alike.
My filming stuff
Camera - Cannon 200D - amzn.to/354OLlc - nice camera, easy to use.
BigTripod - Manfrotto befree - amzn.to/3GLXDdj - pricey but super sturdy and can take being knocked over a lot by clumsy operators.
Lil' tripod - amzn.to/355WmQs - can't pronounce the name but it's been a good tripod for filming things on tables or when I have tanks on the floor.
All shrimp deserve love
So trueee
Thank u for this. And your voice just made this better. Loved it.
You should have used blue jellys, they were bred from red cherries and the offspring will either be red, blue jelly or red rilli and they won't breed back to their natural brown colors.
Love your vids, the fish and shrimp footage with voiceover is the best format for true fish lovers!
Amazing romantic shrimp movie 😅
Very interesting video. I also tried similar hybrid breeding using fire-red females and blue dream males. I obtained different results from you: All F1 were black or dark blue; no red, no blue. After inter-breeding with these F1, I obtained F2 with some pure blue, some pure red, some more dark blue/black (like F1), and some with intermediate colors. My results would suggest that both Blue and Red are dominant traits.
One hobbyist proposed that both red and blue are controlled by different genes (at different loci). I think it is very interesting which can explain very complicate color patters of cherry shrimp.
The different results between yours and mine are probably coming from different shrimp used for experiments. As one hobbyist commented earlier, you did not obtain blue trait in you F1 is most likely due to your blue colony is genetically weak.
Nice video!
That's interesting. The F1 should be one of that colors. So really red and blue are both dominant color, but blue is more dominant becouse it's much darker. I would try very light blue.I would try to breed only F1 with eachother and wait for some gen mutation.
Thanks for this video!! I recently started keeping shrimp and was searching for a cider that would explain the color chart better, you nailed it!! Very excited to see what mixes I get from my 3 eggy shrimp mamas
I'd say cross-breeding a few generations down the line will probably be brownish shrimp . Good luck with the experiment 😁
It's just curiosity which leads to such amazing experiments rather than the research
Depends on who the parents are.
I thought it would be fine to keep shrimps in different color together. And yes, I ended having lots of brown shrimp. Kinda regret it😭
Do you have any knowledge on red cherry shrimps and crossing breeding them without future generations turning brown? I’ve spent half an hour trying to find credible info. Is there potential for mixing ghost and cherry shrimp, over a few generations? Or is it a closed cased that all crossing breeding leds to future brown colouration?
@@blankblank68.1I think this is one of those things people just keep repeating over and over again without producing any evidence of these brown baby shrimp. Where’s the evidence? Where’s the scientific data?
I love everything aquarium, but shrimp might be some of my favorites!
Aww I think the next generation look fine and not at all ugly, and in any case, they don't care if they are not as appealing to humans!
Also, being the next generation, please call the tank, the Enterprise and name the shrimp after members of the crew! lol
Awesome video!
I just got my 29-gallon planted tank set up, and im planning on having ghost and las vegas blues soon.
Hopefully, it goes well 🤞
your videos are way too good tbh really lovely done
Loved the video! I love genetics, and this was really interesting to me. Are you think of doing a third and fourth generation of the shrimp in this experiment? You might see some recessive traits pop up in further generations.
I actually prefer the splotchy ones, on another note it seems like my amano shrimp are molting every couple of days rather than weeks, I suppose that means they are quite healthy :)
Thank you for this information. I do hope you continue with this experiment.
Assuming this is a single gene, it sounds like red may be homozygous dominant (RR) and blue may be homozygous recessive (rr), so you ended up with every individual being heterozygous dominant (Rr) and as a result expressing a weaker red phenotype.
If this is so, then when this generation mates amongst themselves in theory you should see about a quarter of them come out as blue 🤔
But something tells me there's more than one allele at play here.
The good part if this works out and a quarter turns out blue then those blue ones are safe to put back into the blue colony and would add some new genes to the mix for more healthy shrimps. I think that strengthening of the gene pool is the best long term benefit of these type of experiments.
hmm does it play a role that the substrate is bright, which makes darker spawn easier visible and more likely to be nommed by the parents, than the clear ones?
This was fascinating!
I have done this a couple of months ago, they end up lookin wild/transparent and some have tiger looks and some blue jelly looking.
Great experiment
I love them!
They look nice
Started with skittles last spring, this year I am left with predominantly wild shrimp.
The plus side is that they are really hardy to temperature change and water quality. I think inbreeding is what makes shrimp weaker and more sensitive.
The hardiness have something to do with the introduction of new bloodline.
Based on my experience keeping neocaridina, that's not the case, about hardiness
Great video!
You could also try to breed the first generation and see if you will get higher quality.
currently crossing bloody mary and blue dream, as those came from the same origin ... thats there it gets interesting. the 1st gen went into a mix of schoko and rly dark blue (allmost black), some more schoko all around some just a schoko shimmery upside on a dark blue body ... no poor quality color coverage so far.
Looking forward to the 2nd gen, its been said they can go back to a mix of red, blue and schoko. I took out all the 0 gen, just to make sure its possible to get randomly both origin colors back without having the 0 gen further mixing original colors into the mix.
Have you tried changing the males and females,what was the results, interested to know 😮
omg I wish I had found your channel earlier! I am hoping to start a cherry shrimp coloney in my tank soon! where do you sell your shrimps?
My shrimp are currently all in skittle type setups my main tank is mostly reds with maybe 3-5 %yellow and 20% some off color wilds however recently seen a few that resembled blue jellies transparent but a nice sky or baby blue coloring and ive also got the sand yellow and orange rilis showing i think of them as chetoos cause looks like there powdered with cheeto dust reds still seem dominant but id say 3-5 gen later the other colors can reform maybe with a more selective approch breeding your blueish reds with blues or other would result in more red losss and strengthining the other colors
You should try yellow and blue
amazing !!
Felicitaciones excelente vídeo, y me a motivado a iniciar algunos cruzamientos. Saludos 🇺🇾
Really interesting! But I have to say that I did get one purple shrimp 2 years ago 😅 alongside with lots of brown ones!
Oh that color is typically rare
Great stuff. I myself got some really nicely bright coloured blue shrimp which look incredible under the light and blend in when there s shade. But then I got some new batch of shrimp that looks like spawns from a person breeding poor quality stuff, possibly with many colours, and selling them as blue ones. One of them was like dark green without a doubt under proper lighting, and 2 others were super dark, like I couldnt see a trace of blue in them, another seemed to have greyish spots with some green. This video made me think maybe I should pull them out before they start breeding, I would still have around 20 left. I sometimes wonder why people make it sound like shrimp are so easy lol, to me it has been the hardest thing to get going so far! 😅
I have a tank with red cherries and blue velvet and first gen I have a ton of brown and clear shrimp in my tank. I have a very bold blue female thats berried right now and I cant wait too see what those babies look like!
Any updates on the babies?
Such a shame we can’t believe everything we read in the comments…
Awesome video! Wouldnt mind more like this :) I also tried my own little experiment, thou unsuccessful for me Ive read it can be done: crossbreeding CPD with their related species Emerald Dwarf Rasboras.
Oooh. Really. Now that is fascinating. I’ll have to give that a go as well.
I have cpds
Yeah that's extremely difficult but the result is amazing, forgot what the cross is called but it's very rare
i did this and i ended up getting all kinds. ones like these and some that were black and some that were red and blue. red and blue mixed was rare and the blue was really pale
After about 5 or 6 generations if you lucky you will start to get a few red and blue rili shrimp.
now that would be incredible :)
Does that really happen? that could change the game!
I had this happen. You do get some funky hybrid like blue and red on one shrimp. Saw once a yellow shrimp. Most though were brown or lightish in colour which isn't really appealing. Looking to starting my shrimp colony again though will stick to 1 colour. Don't know whether to get blue or red 🤔
Why not green 🟢?
Very interesting, I hope you will continue with the cross-breeding trails switching the males and females would be interesting as well as following future generations.
Yes definitely want to have a go at swapping the sexes first and just see how that affects the first gen 👍🏻
I had blue jellies and reds in one tank and the babies are clear light blue with red splotches on their tails and upper body. They look like really weak rilis
I LOVE the speckled ones. I don't like the cherry-red shrimp. They look like food and I don't want to make that association with pets!
🤨
Maybe do red+blue. Gen1+red. Gen2+blue. Gen3+red… etc. I want purple shrimp. Lol
If you did this in a betta tank, would you ever even see the babies?
no shrimp is low quality. all shrimp are high quality.
Fascinating stuff 👍❤️🇬🇧
I recently added a few cherry shrimp to my aquarium and they appear to be doing well. They eat constantly and wander through the plants looking healthy and happy just as I expected them to, but this morning about half the shrimp are swimming around the tank like fish. It is the first time I have witnessed this behavior. I am assuming it is a mating behavior. What do you think about their activity? Is it normal for shrimp to behave like that?
Heyo. Yes that’s normal and nothing to worry about so long as they don’t do so for more than a few hours. It will be males searching for a female who has recently moulted as she is now ready to mate. It’s a great sign that your shrimp are happy and healthy and starting to breed 😀
I wish you got purple shrimp
Yea blue is very weak genetic. I have mixed blue dreams and sakura/ fire reds and I would say they offspring are : 80% red, 19 % wild type, 1% blue. In comparison I had yellows and reds for 2 years together and I have like 99% red, 1% yellows, 0% wild type.
Because blue, in shrimp, is not a color
i got red rili blue shrimp. and i call them ultraman
How about a Bloody Mary & Cherry shrimp hybrid…!?!
You should keep a turtle for culling purposes 😅
Lobster Shrimp.
If you cross breed shrimp, I think they revert back to their normal wild colors
The word is "aclimate", not aclimiatize.
Wrong - they're both the same meaning 👍 hope this helps
Yes, the first being favoured in USA, second English ✌️
You would make clear ones and some other colors it’s not good to mix them
Awwwww no purple 😉
I know right, such a shame 😃
They make purple shrimp