19. Phase-locked Loops

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  • MIT Electronic Feedback Systems (1985)
    View the complete course: ocw.mit.edu/RES6-010S13
    Instructor: James K. Roberge
    License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA
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  • @ElectronicsNotes
    @ElectronicsNotes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well explained and a very useful introduction to phase locked loop technology. Thanks.

  • @coderhex1675
    @coderhex1675 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    he is like an artist

  • @brig.4398
    @brig.4398 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the video before this one made more sense to me, he shows waveforms on the scope. I was a tech with AT&T and learned most of the job by hands on experience.

  • @w0313440
    @w0313440 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIP Prof Roberge .

  • @andrzejpl9897
    @andrzejpl9897 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a concert of science . Thanks professor ! I just try to watch other video on the same subject and it was senseless mumbling in bad English with lots of math . I had imposition that guy try to convince him self about his own greatness .

  • @435345dfhgjs
    @435345dfhgjs 10 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I didn't know that Nixon knew so much about electronics...
    BTW great video

  • @mikedrz
    @mikedrz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    You can tell this is older, because it's in English. Now a days you can only find these lectures in Hindi.

    • @ashwin372
      @ashwin372 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      maybe , sometimes its indian guy explaining in english

    • @yaswanthraparti8641
      @yaswanthraparti8641 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @LinuxDebugger you are free to not listen to the content you don't like instead of making useless, condescending remarks.

    • @7yep4336dfgvvh
      @7yep4336dfgvvh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@yaswanthraparti8641 they're not useless though

  • @bhavani1089shankar
    @bhavani1089shankar 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    a voltage regulator is a Voltage controller, a Constant Current source is current controller and like that a Phase locked loop is a more or less a Phase controller or frequency controller , every thing is in a loop , we have a reference and also an error amplifying device and some sort of control mechanism , all are one and the same if our view is abstract, that's it and may the Professors Soul Rest in Peace

    • @findharsha
      @findharsha 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/james-k-roberge-professor-of-electrical-engineering-dies-at-75

    • @arnavrawat9864
      @arnavrawat9864 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good observation.
      It would be much easier if people were taught this unifying philosophy and then explained these 3 systems.

  • @koerd85
    @koerd85 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awsome technology

  • @glitter-pixiet2335
    @glitter-pixiet2335 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    sir,thank u so much for this lecture,i completely understood everything about phase locked loop,
    you are really great sir.

  • @dasilvaleandro21
    @dasilvaleandro21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That's a very nice lecture. Would be amazing to be in that class, I wasn't even born though :(

  • @emylrmm
    @emylrmm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 8:10, the phase is just the integral of the frequency, but only in the linearized frequency domain not in the time domain

    • @panier66
      @panier66 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      An instantaneous frequency is the derivative of phase in the time domain, and reciprocally, the instantaneous phase is the integral of instantaneous frequency.

    • @AdityaPrasad007
      @AdityaPrasad007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ralph M Look if p is the phase of a signal x(t) = sin(2*pi*f*t) in degrees. Then p = 360*t*f, so I see how integrating a constant frequency value will give us phase. But since the frequency is constant - 8:28 you can't have a domain of it. no df is possible right? Also @panier66 I agree with you, but how does this relate to what the prof is saying - integrate frequency error and get phase error. Any idea??

  • @hrh2092
    @hrh2092 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PLL and he used Fc and Fr in block diagram analysis. Was it not better if he used Pc and Pr as PLL actually is a loop controlling phase not frequency?

  • @anthonyyongfeng
    @anthonyyongfeng 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sistemas electrónicos de retro-alimentación... Quiero aprender cómo funciona esto...

  • @sorova
    @sorova 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just one thing he missed - selection of unity gain crossover frequency.

    • @ashwin372
      @ashwin372 ปีที่แล้ว

      too late now since he is dead

  • @AdityaPrasad007
    @AdityaPrasad007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:25 I don't see what he means by phase error between two signals of _different_ frequencies. I mean sure you can find the difference in frequencies when you have two signals with different constant frequencies. But Phase difference is *defined as* the difference, expressed in degrees or radians, between two waves having the same frequency and referenced to the same point in time. I really don't see how integrating the frequency error (a constant since he says both are constant and different) gives us the phase error.

    • @circuitdesign
      @circuitdesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Technically you are correct, but the term is used loosely because it's understood that the feedback clock will never be EXACTLY the same frequency as the reference clock (although, that is what the goal is, along with getting the rising edges to be perfectly aligned.)

    • @arnavrawat9864
      @arnavrawat9864 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's done because that's what the circuit does..
      Just find what percentage of the waveform of a signal has been traversed. (π/2 , π/4...)
      Do the same for another signal. And find a phase.
      Subtract to get the phase difference.

    • @ahmedelsayed8570
      @ahmedelsayed8570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the phase definition to which you are referring is for mathematics. in electrical engineering, phase is the integral of angular frequency or the x in sin(x); with the definition which he describes at 8:13 you can compare the phase of any two signals even with different frequencies.

  • @t.on.y
    @t.on.y 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2020

  • @doid3r4s
    @doid3r4s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the signals are out of phase to begin with but their frequencies are the same?

    • @circuitdesign
      @circuitdesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then the phase detector will produce an error signal until the feedback clock rising edge is aligned with the refclock rising edge. One thing to note is that you never get "perfect" phase and frequency alignment. The loop is always doing some error correction. Sometimes the error correction is very small, like when the loop is "locked". This is why you always have finite jitter. Jitter is never zero, although that is ideal.

    • @danielfromca
      @danielfromca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Assuming you start same freq and same phase, and then alter the phase of input sig : the pll sig would at first go up or down in freq, but a moment later would adjust to original freq, but with the new phase.

    • @nicholaselliott2484
      @nicholaselliott2484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielfromca Thanks, this was the exact point I was missing!

    • @danielfromca
      @danielfromca ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicholaselliott2484 thanks for saying that. There's a steady state adjustment like with ordinary AC circuits. Following a phase change to the input signal, the XOR (or another phase comparator) would drive the oscillator with a different voltage, making the frequency jump momentarily. But this can't be a steady state, as the feedback would work to bring the oscillator signal back to the input signal's frequency, but with the new phase. (You understood everything quickly, but in case the original comment wasn't enough for somebody viewing this later, added a bit of extra).

  • @patrickthepure
    @patrickthepure 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's ancient knowledge.

  • @vinna2k884
    @vinna2k884 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm tony from mit..

  • @Eila_Ilmatar_Juutilainen
    @Eila_Ilmatar_Juutilainen 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    HAHa, video look very retro style

    • @DmytroMishagli
      @DmytroMishagli 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it's 1985... how should it look like? :)

  • @caleb7799
    @caleb7799 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SOOOOOO this is where we went from teaching to pointing at things on the board! 🤮