A future classic. One of the best samplers ever made. You just have to accept its limitations. But what it does do, it does extremely well. And the sound quality is phenomenal
@@dennisbouma37 32 seconds per pad, and yes has stereo in and can do live looping, IE: sample a loop and instantly start to play back the loop in time with project.
I love my SP-16, its ease of use which allows you to concentrate on the music, without going through the instructions. I cherish each time I use it the engineers who designed the SP-16 workflow. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It's a fantastic machine, with an amazing hands on interface, I have never opened the user manual except for looking at the MIDI implementation chart etc. Though it's a shame Pioneer has ended its product life cycle, they had close to a diamond here and just dumped it. For me it's mostly about sync stuff, which is ridiculous as the DJ Link is really comprehensive and contains time code etc. so it probably would be super easy to add MTC, both generation and following, to this machine!
@@FLAMBINO These machines are designed for DJs, though SP-16 was afaik aimed at a combo live/preprod, and I have a feeling that Pioneer kind of lack in knowledge about preprod environments and workflows, which is why a lot of people feel a lack of a bunch of things, often related to the workflow in conjunction with other gear and integration with other parts of the workflow.
I have a decent arsenal of samplers and groove boxes and the SP 16 is my favorite and the cornerstone of my set up. It is so easy to use and reliable; it has never get stuck/frozen. Yes it can do some of the thighs that other devices can but it is not a production or DAW in a box device like an MPC or Maschine + so comparing them is like comparing apples to oranges. One advantage the SP16 has over everything else out there is the integration of the AS-1 if that’s part of your set up. So as long as you are aware of its limitations this product is ideal to make sample based tracks.
The SP-16 has been the centerpiece of my production studio and live performances since its release in 2017. It completely changed how I produce music for the better. There is a long list of things I dislike about it but they are far outweighed by the intuitive and "fun" workflow. I spend weeks/months in the studio creating content to feed in to the SP-16 and with enough preparation I can perform an entire set of my original music in a way that most people on the dancefloor would not be able to tell it wasn't a DJ set if they didn't see the table full of hardware I am using to perform. Definitely a highly misunderstood and slept on piece of production gear. I bought two so I can leave one hooked up in the studio and use the 2nd for shows and portability. Cold dead hands piece of kit, for sure.
You can really do any kind of music on the sp16. Even strange measures. Also you can record live instruments or synths. If you cannot produce music with the sp16 then you have things to learn. Love this machine, get away from the daw, work on ideas, tracks or live sets. Work on the music without distraction
Sadly, an abandoned piece of underdeveloped gear (by Pioneer) with no updates since 2019 with loads of potential still left in it. The release of the MPC Live obliterated the Toraiz's future sales. The Toraiz is limited in functionality but sounds way fatter and fuller than the Akai MPC.
enjoyed the video! i've been using the sp16 for close to two years now, it's one of the best samplers out there! it's so, so easy to use and sounds amazing... anything you put in there that is going through those prophet filters and the compressor in the master FX is gonna come out the other end sounding spot-on. when sampling through the audio inputs, it adds a bit of weight as well. my only complaint would be the timestretch isn't really that great... but on the flipside, i've never heard any other timestretch that sounds like it... so even that has character! i wish it had the hot slice feature like the DJS 1000 :( toraiz was a single firmware update from perfection.
I love my Toraiz Sp-16 and have created full tracks on the unit. I love the sound better then my MPC live 2 all I create on this unit is experimentation 🎵 music you really need to spend more time with it. Thx for taking out the time to give your opinion.
@@FLAMBINO looking forward to your future vids! Had mine for several years now and it's the one machine that's never left my desk. It's bloody sexystylish as well, beautifully constructed and still thoroughly modern looking...quite unlike the mac's which feel like relics. The obvious negative is how Pio basically dropped updating it (all those fx's grrr)...and the plastic grey pots of the filter felt cheap, but I replaced those:)
Been looking for an intuitive sampler with a great filter. Menu diving takes me out of the zone. I really want something simple that makes me concentrate on just making music. Do you reckon this is a good fit? Nearly bought the digitakt today but have the analog rytm so just looking for an easy to use stereo sampler.
@@CleanConnections this is pretty much the anti-elektron machine, but Im pretty certain it's just what you need. It's fast, sleek, and just pure pleasure. Sounds bloody amazing as well. And it looks/feels sexy! It's certainly limited in terms of sampler mangelling, and the sequencing is very, very basic compared to the options of an op-z/Polyend Play....but you'll LOVE it. It's the machine I'd save first from the fire. Go for it!!
@@sodiumlights thanks for the reply. Has helped me think it out…I have the elektron rytm so got the complex in depth stuff covered. Ijust like the idea of more stripped away simple sampler that does the basics quickly. I have plenty of guitar pedals if i need to mangle anything and this has loads of outputs to play with plus those Dave smith filters! The other contender is the new Mpc live 2 which I realise will be much more advanced but with that comes a bigger learning curve (not owned an mpc before) the toraiz just seems like you probably don’t even need the manual! And I mean that in a good way. Figure the limitations Will make me concentrate on my samples going in right rather than trying to fix them after. Cheers for The advice 👍
Still have the SP16 after so many years, it's the most direct sampler, the filters are great, the slice and scale controls are great and the UI is damn quick. But it lacks that direct knob handling that real samplers have. I wish you could swap out the functions on those 6 rotary knobs, that would do a lot more for live play.
I feel like a reverb knob would go well next to the filters & drive knobs. Also a 'cut' button to instantly bypass all of them (for when you're returning to main groove at a drop)
It was too expensive when it launched, but you can buy them second hand for reasonable prices. No updates? There won't be any future updates, but Pioneer did roll out some pretty big updates while this was still an active product - the final update in late 2019 was a gamechanger
Great device, purchased early 2018. I can def appreciate early adopters who paid full price $1499 and then the DJS1000 was released w live looping. As more time went on price came down to $899. Yes it would be great if Pioneer updated the unit the way Elektron has updated the Digitakt. Def made quite a few songs with mine but sold it because it became a nice to have. I did get a Digitakt later on and was really let down by the mono sounds, lack of proper slicing, and no external storage. This was later added in an update but at the time the MIDI tracks on the Digitakt could only trigger the C Chromatic scale. Furthermore a brilliant feature of the SP16 & DJS1000 is to change the tracks from Audio to midi as needed, where as the Digitakt/Octatrack have fixed track types. To me it's a great device...last year I missed it but instead of going back to the SP16 I got the DJS1000. Maybe 1 day I'll get another SP16 for production and the DJS1000 can just live in my DJ setup
Most slept on and misunderstood piece of gear ever made. Can make entire sets on this. I've played many shows and ended up opening for some cool people all off what I had done on this machine. If you get hands on with it, it is extremely capable although like anything else you will need a side piece like a dfam or a modular that you actually know how to use in order to build transitions n whatnot.
One thing you don’t talk about is the sound quality which if you are producer who actually makes tracks then this kills the MPC. All you need to do is run test tones on the MPC and you will see what a garage converter it is. The way to deal with that is to do controller mode with MPC and bypass the converter
Do you even know how to use the sampler in it? Here's a vid on the slicer (assuming that is what "split samples" means). th-cam.com/video/f0RNQP4Bjmc/w-d-xo.html
@@FLAMBINO And the real-time time stretch "Hmm I dunno", is one of the best ones out there im hardware units, and the strongest reason to why I bought this machine initially.
Great Machine in the right hands… Sheenah Ko, Kiko Narvarro ect… have made super great music using it. I love mine and at one time used MPC’s and Sp-1200. Create and dive into making the machine work for you.
The AD/DA of this is way better than the new Mpc, the Mpc is a glorified midi controller, you can’t compare it to this unit, just run some test tons in both machine then you will hear the difference,
The problem with this unit is Pioneer doing Pioneer (price tag expensive) for what's a glorified Remix deck/maschine competitor with lots of amazing capabilities but wrongly marketed... This is what Roland should have release instead MV1 or SP404mk3 but Roland doing Roland (releasing things without knowing their user market) made this strange multiverse world where this unit has better Variphrase like functions and better Djing oriented tools that anything release by Roland... special mention for Yamaha SU900 too...
![[BB027] "Sagan Aspirations" Sample Jam - Toraiz SP-16 & AS-1, Quadrantid Swarm](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WexXfn2QE-4/mqdefault.jpg)
A future classic. One of the best samplers ever made. You just have to accept its limitations. But what it does do, it does extremely well. And the sound quality is phenomenal
How many seconds is the maximum sample time? Has it a line in for gear to hook up?
@@dennisbouma37 32 seconds per pad, and yes has stereo in and can do live looping, IE: sample a loop and instantly start to play back the loop in time with project.
Isn't it up to 64 seconds per sample, or is that only for mono? I tried loading in long sample chains but it says there's a 64 second limit.
@@Claidheambmor yeah they upped it to 64 seconds in an update, so I was incorrect.
Almost perfect sampler
I love my SP-16, its ease of use which allows you to concentrate on the music, without going through the instructions.
I cherish each time I use it the engineers who designed the SP-16 workflow. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yes it is simple indeed. Glad you have good times with it :)
It's a fantastic machine, with an amazing hands on interface, I have never opened the user manual except for looking at the MIDI implementation chart etc. Though it's a shame Pioneer has ended its product life cycle, they had close to a diamond here and just dumped it. For me it's mostly about sync stuff, which is ridiculous as the DJ Link is really comprehensive and contains time code etc. so it probably would be super easy to add MTC, both generation and following, to this machine!
@@jfn467 yes it was a interesting move from pioneer. Away from MPC into a more live kind of scenario. Maybe it comes back in a mk2 who knows
@@FLAMBINO These machines are designed for DJs, though SP-16 was afaik aimed at a combo live/preprod, and I have a feeling that Pioneer kind of lack in knowledge about preprod environments and workflows, which is why a lot of people feel a lack of a bunch of things, often related to the workflow in conjunction with other gear and integration with other parts of the workflow.
@@jfn467 totally
I have a decent arsenal of samplers and groove boxes and the SP 16 is my favorite and the cornerstone of my set up. It is so easy to use and reliable; it has never get stuck/frozen. Yes it can do some of the thighs that other devices can but it is not a production or DAW in a box device like an MPC or Maschine + so comparing them is like comparing apples to oranges. One advantage the SP16 has over everything else out there is the integration of the AS-1 if that’s part of your set up. So as long as you are aware of its limitations this product is ideal to make sample based tracks.
The SP-16 has been the centerpiece of my production studio and live performances since its release in 2017. It completely changed how I produce music for the better. There is a long list of things I dislike about it but they are far outweighed by the intuitive and "fun" workflow. I spend weeks/months in the studio creating content to feed in to the SP-16 and with enough preparation I can perform an entire set of my original music in a way that most people on the dancefloor would not be able to tell it wasn't a DJ set if they didn't see the table full of hardware I am using to perform. Definitely a highly misunderstood and slept on piece of production gear. I bought two so I can leave one hooked up in the studio and use the 2nd for shows and portability. Cold dead hands piece of kit, for sure.
You can really do any kind of music on the sp16. Even strange measures. Also you can record live instruments or synths. If you cannot produce music with the sp16 then you have things to learn. Love this machine, get away from the daw, work on ideas, tracks or live sets. Work on the music without distraction
more fun to use than anything similar
Sadly, an abandoned piece of underdeveloped gear (by Pioneer) with no updates since 2019 with loads of potential still left in it. The release of the MPC Live obliterated the Toraiz's future sales. The Toraiz is limited in functionality but sounds way fatter and fuller than the Akai MPC.
I have both i would just use the MPC
enjoyed the video! i've been using the sp16 for close to two years now, it's one of the best samplers out there! it's so, so easy to use and sounds amazing... anything you put in there that is going through those prophet filters and the compressor in the master FX is gonna come out the other end sounding spot-on. when sampling through the audio inputs, it adds a bit of weight as well. my only complaint would be the timestretch isn't really that great... but on the flipside, i've never heard any other timestretch that sounds like it... so even that has character!
i wish it had the hot slice feature like the DJS 1000 :( toraiz was a single firmware update from perfection.
wish DJS 1000 has more outputs, two fx engines, arrangements.. thinking of selling mine and getting the Toriaz
I love my Toraiz Sp-16 and have created full tracks on the unit. I love the sound better then my MPC live 2 all I create on this unit is experimentation 🎵 music you really need to spend more time with it. Thx for taking out the time to give your opinion.
My favourite sampler
Same
@@rorz999 same
it's far from being the greatest ever sampler but you'd be hard pushed to find something that's more enjoyable to use. And it sounds bloody stunning!
Its turning warmer on me since I uploaded the video, got new videos now where im getting into the groove with it :)
@@FLAMBINO looking forward to your future vids! Had mine for several years now and it's the one machine that's never left my desk. It's bloody sexystylish as well, beautifully constructed and still thoroughly modern looking...quite unlike the mac's which feel like relics. The obvious negative is how Pio basically dropped updating it (all those fx's grrr)...and the plastic grey pots of the filter felt cheap, but I replaced those:)
Been looking for an intuitive sampler with a great filter. Menu diving takes me out of the zone. I really want something simple that makes me concentrate on just making music. Do you reckon this is a good fit?
Nearly bought the digitakt today but have the analog rytm so just looking for an easy to use stereo sampler.
@@CleanConnections this is pretty much the anti-elektron machine, but Im pretty certain it's just what you need. It's fast, sleek, and just pure pleasure. Sounds bloody amazing as well. And it looks/feels sexy! It's certainly limited in terms of sampler mangelling, and the sequencing is very, very basic compared to the options of an op-z/Polyend Play....but you'll LOVE it. It's the machine I'd save first from the fire. Go for it!!
@@sodiumlights thanks for the reply. Has helped me think it out…I have the elektron rytm so got the complex in depth stuff covered. Ijust like the idea of more stripped away simple sampler that does the basics quickly. I have plenty of guitar pedals if i need to mangle anything and this has loads of outputs to play with plus those Dave smith filters! The other contender is the new Mpc live 2 which I realise will be much more advanced but with that comes a bigger learning curve (not owned an mpc before) the toraiz just seems like you probably don’t even need the manual! And I mean that in a good way. Figure the limitations Will make me concentrate on my samples going in right rather than trying to fix them after. Cheers for The advice 👍
best purchase ive ever made. Stunning machine. Hes aso bang wrong about it not so focussed on production. It brilliant for that
My favorite sampler is the circuit rhythm though it definitely has limitations I just really love the workflow of it
Still have the SP16 after so many years, it's the most direct sampler, the filters are great, the slice and scale controls are great and the UI is damn quick. But it lacks that direct knob handling that real samplers have. I wish you could swap out the functions on those 6 rotary knobs, that would do a lot more for live play.
I feel like a reverb knob would go well next to the filters & drive knobs. Also a 'cut' button to instantly bypass all of them (for when you're returning to main groove at a drop)
Makes me want a Pioneer RMX 1000 or 500.
Wsy outta my price range im an mpc user and circuit rhythm this thing seems badass but far to dear
MPC is better I own both
There are great features on here but the price and zero updates is a deal breaker.
Agree. Updates is a interesting point. What would you like to see in an update?
Can't see anymore updates as it's been discontinued:-(
@@karend.264 yep
It was too expensive when it launched, but you can buy them second hand for reasonable prices. No updates? There won't be any future updates, but Pioneer did roll out some pretty big updates while this was still an active product - the final update in late 2019 was a gamechanger
@@rorz999 I had an sp16 in the early days but sold for an MPC live, what did the final update add?
Not really, seems like you're not diving into a lot of functionality of the unit.
hes clearly never used it much
Great device, purchased early 2018. I can def appreciate early adopters who paid full price $1499 and then the DJS1000 was released w live looping. As more time went on price came down to $899. Yes it would be great if Pioneer updated the unit the way Elektron has updated the Digitakt. Def made quite a few songs with mine but sold it because it became a nice to have. I did get a Digitakt later on and was really let down by the mono sounds, lack of proper slicing, and no external storage. This was later added in an update but at the time the MIDI tracks on the Digitakt could only trigger the C Chromatic scale. Furthermore a brilliant feature of the SP16 & DJS1000 is to change the tracks from Audio to midi as needed, where as the Digitakt/Octatrack have fixed track types. To me it's a great device...last year I missed it but instead of going back to the SP16 I got the DJS1000. Maybe 1 day I'll get another SP16 for production and the DJS1000 can just live in my DJ setup
Insightful reflections! What kind of music do you perform/make?
I've been playing with him for over a year. Perfect! I don't need better than that. 😉👌
Most slept on and misunderstood piece of gear ever made. Can make entire sets on this. I've played many shows and ended up opening for some cool people all off what I had done on this machine. If you get hands on with it, it is extremely capable although like anything else you will need a side piece like a dfam or a modular that you actually know how to use in order to build transitions n whatnot.
If Akai MPC live and Roland tr8 having a baby It look exactly like this
MPC is better
This is like watching the cave man when he was tryin to come up fire
One thing you don’t talk about is the sound quality which if you are producer who actually makes tracks then this kills the MPC. All you need to do is run test tones on the MPC and you will see what a garage converter it is. The way to deal with that is to do controller mode with MPC and bypass the converter
MPC can do more than 60 second sampling
Do you even know how to use the sampler in it? Here's a vid on the slicer (assuming that is what "split samples" means). th-cam.com/video/f0RNQP4Bjmc/w-d-xo.html
Thank you 🙏
@@FLAMBINO And the real-time time stretch "Hmm I dunno", is one of the best ones out there im hardware units, and the strongest reason to why I bought this machine initially.
The SP-16 is the only machine I will never sell. I even plan to buy a second one in case of problem with the first
I love this machine. If midi worked a bit better then it would be perfect but I still love it
I've had it for two years and I still can't make friends with it at all
I don’t understand the sequencer part i can’t wrap my head around it MPC is better
Great Machine in the right hands… Sheenah Ko, Kiko Narvarro ect… have made super great music using it. I love mine and at one time used MPC’s and Sp-1200. Create and dive into making the machine work for you.
Bro it’s a drum machine that can load samples and sample. What more do you want from it?
is the Octatrack more suitable for live sample mangling?
no!
Can you find the BPM for a track?
Google is good for that
The AD/DA of this is way better than the new Mpc, the Mpc is a glorified midi controller, you can’t compare it to this unit, just run some test tons in both machine then you will hear the difference,
The problem with this unit is Pioneer doing Pioneer (price tag expensive) for what's a glorified Remix deck/maschine competitor with lots of amazing capabilities but wrongly marketed... This is what Roland should have release instead MV1 or SP404mk3 but Roland doing Roland (releasing things without knowing their user market) made this strange multiverse world where this unit has better Variphrase like functions and better Djing oriented tools that anything release by Roland... special mention for Yamaha SU900 too...
Pioneer already abandoned this unit
You dont know jack about Dj ing