TORAIZ WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS..
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- IN THIS VIDEO I EXPLAIN THE HISTORY OF THE PIONEER TORAIZ..
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Bro, you had me CRACKING UP LAUGHING on this one. "I gotta go. My wife's in labor." LOL!!!
Lol!
🤣🤣
Dude is a comedian cracks me up too 😂
I enjoyed using this more than any modern MPC. The workflow of this is unmatched. You don't even need to crack open a manual and hardly any menu diving. What it says on the panel is what it does. Only bad part about it is that song mode is limited as hell. Other than that I loved it for what it is and that Filter from Dave Smith is insane!
How's the song mode? Is it anything like the akai mpc to where you can combine the sequences to get your song mode?
@@DaMixWizard Yup you can do that.
I feel u.
For real? Man I never heard of this and I am getting it!!!!
@@DaMixWizard yeah, it's often talked about on the Pioneer forums. There's a few work around and that is one of them. It's actually what pioneer recommends you do it has a screen that makes it easy to organize your sequences. Best I can compare it too is the TR8S. Where you have 16 steps per sequence this has 64 steps per sequence but everything about this unit is optimized for 4/4 beats and that's what makes you pull your hair out.
Getting one of these! Glad I caught this notification.
Lol. cool.
Same!!!! Looks ill
Best purchase I ever made. This thing makes me smile every time I go into the studio
@@Sharon-music Agreed!
@@DyReckProductions 😂
The creativity this box gives me during DJ sets is amazing. So happy I picked one of these up. Originally I got it to use as a simple sample and loop player to add depth to my sets but it gives so much more. Highly recommended.
I feel you.
Yeah I understand it’s actually a DJ tool (not cheap I might add for that matter). It’s a not really meant to be an entire workstation like mpc live.
I liked my sp16 back when I first bought one in 2017 (or so), when the MPC live came out I traded (still have the live), but Im honestly considering buying back another sp16 for the super quick workflow and "handson" nature of playing it live.
The SP-16 is amazing! Sounds WAY better than MPCs
@@LynxSocial as Ive said, Ive owned both and the MPC is just a better machine all round and is constantly having new features and workflow improvements added. Torraiz sp16 is cool and I liked its ease of use but frankly in 2021 its not in the same league as the MPC Live/one/X or Force.
@@aikighost I still rock a s3200 and a4000 in my studio. I like the features of the Akai Force, but man that current Akai workflow vibes like a 2003 DAW too me... slays on the road though. preamps right in there!
Omg when yr voice and the Dave Smith footage synced up I lost it. Loving this series, btw. Thank u!
Lol. No doubt fam thanks.
I thank every day the engineers who developed the workflow of the Pioneer Toraiz SP-16, which puts the machine at the service of the musician. 👍🏻
I'm trying to choose between Toraiz sp-16 and Roland Verselab MV-1. I just love these machines with the 16 step sequencer on the front in physical form. Roland leading for me because of vocal recording ability and the Roland synths.
@@emomagica which one did you get?
I have both SP-16 and AS-1. The SP-16 is close to being a great machine...it is good and it does sound great. The AS-1 sounds amazing but the sequencer is meh. Pioneer has basically abandoned these products. Too bad...I think they had a good thing brewing.
Yeah I hope they continue the Toraiz line.
I heard on the grapevine from somebody who worked at Pioneer, that due to multiple restructures in the organisation (which happened when Pioneer DJ was bought by a different company), the team that developed the Toraiz line are long gone. So the chance of any future firmware updates are slim to none. I find this almost criminal considering the price, and given that they still manufacture and advertise most of these machines. My pipe dream is a JJOS type situation, where one of the OG devs who left Pioneer continues to work on the firmware, or the firmware being open-sourced, but I know it's never gonna happen
@@rorz999 yeah I think the SP-16 has been discontinued within the last few weeks. I would bet that grapevine is correct. Pioneer DJ is still pushing out new products, but the Toraiz line looks dead in the water. Pioneer is sticking with their bread and butter...which is fine. It just sucks to see these great products not be improved upon, but there are lots of competitors that do make great stuff like Akai, Roland, and Elektron in this space. The partnership with Dave Smith was the differentiator that appealed to many including myself.
You're so right about the "for DJs" garbage. I'm really enjoying this series of vids.
Lol. Thanks.
That’s funny I’m not sure it’s necessarily true only the dj scene was more popular before anyone was making beats like now they been had an international choke hold on the market for how long now & customers of all age groups & price-lines. Good DJ been crazy expensive. Technics 1200s still cost a fortune.
Can you do a versus video? Pioneer Toraiz vs Akai MPC Live 2.
Between those 2 I think the Live 2 wins.
Workflow and song mode is way better on the Toraiz
@@ripskip160 What makes it way better?
@@MEETMagazine Everything is right there in front of you so it makes everything fast and there is very little menu diving because of this as well.
You can use the toraiz or the dgs 1000 right out of the box. The MPC live program was is extensive. The toraiz is very basic. But that's what's brilliant about the sampler. You don't need all that other stuff really to make hip Hop. And you really don't need all that other stuff to make any other kind of music that way. But the DJS 1000 has better layout. They're basically the same machine. The DJs only lacks the song mode and the filter. Beyond that they're the same machine. Except the DJs 1000 has q slice. Which means you can take any file you got. And say it's four bars Long. You can chop that up in the 64 slices right. But the slice please through depending on where you hit it. That's pretty cool. So you got single shots. Can you got continuous loop shots. The DJs 1000 layout is just so smooth. And if you've already got a digital DJ deck mixer etc. It looks beautiful right next to it. They had the right idea and concept. But they should have made both machines the same. And the form factor be the only Factor why you about one of the other. The other thing about these machines is you can use them as controllers. Just say you got FL studio open or even Ableton live. And say you chop something up in the sampler and Ableton live and it's chopped up and sinks perfect. You've got 16 channels of MIDI controller. And it's a 64 note keyboard if you will. So you get on the fly sink with everything literally on either machine and just say sampling directly back into whatever program you're using. And then just take that and crop it and chop it. So if you do use software. Probably the most underrated piece of equipment you don't have is a pioneer squid. If that thing worth sampler it would be a beast. Once again you could just chop your stuff up and whatever program you're using. That thing's a sequencing madhouse. And to go down a further wormhole if you're making hip Hop. Basically you can just get acid 10 or 11 whichever one it is. And with the MIDI mapper and just the basic function of acid. You could just chop everything up in MIDI mapper with one of these controllers. Record the midi data to the timeline. And the way the medium Apple works is it shows the audio according to the midi note superficially on the timeline. So then you can go drag move midi data but it looks like an audio file.
just ordered one. 16-voices is just about right for hiphop and other electronic music genres. 64 sec sampling time is more than enough if you ever played with a oldshool mpc.... and the it sounds juicy as the legendary samplers
64 secs PER SAMPLE with a total of 256 mb ram comes down to 16 minutes of total sample time PER PROJECT, spread out over the 16 scenes per project.
Those 16 minutes is calculated from the 24 bit 44.1 khz stereo samplespecs, loaded into 256 mb of ram from "audio-file-size-calculator" (colincrawley).
@@N1h1L3 what shitttt
The most important reason to get this unit for its converters!
It 1000 times better than any new Akai, have done intense tone tests and super happy. My 2 Akai are basically glorified midi sequencers
I feel you the converters are amazing!!..I always get super compliments on my sound when I use this thing!
In the right hands, the sp-16 is the truth! It's one of my "Never Sell" pieces of gear. Pioneer left us users hanging but the machine still holds it's weight!
Yeah its a pretty dope machine.
I feel the same but that last update was huge.
I was going to buy this because no one bought it and it might be a collector's machine within 15 years from now
True..People are low key starting to pick them up now.
This is a future classic, trust me
wow ..... this was really well done. On point humor, informative ... clear and concise with that all important natural swag added in for street cred. sub'd without hesitation.
Lol thanks fam I appreciate it.
I love my SP-16 basically one of the funnest machines i have ever owned. Yeah its not as powerful as MPC One but i dont care because it does everything i want it to do. I dont need one machine to do everything.
I feel u on that.
The freaking UI looks great!!!!! Impressed. Never seen this.
Its pretty impressive after the updates they gave it.
Update this video... For the Hip Hop Headz, we love this thing
This is the only sampler with a step sequencer. It is amazing.
If pioneer actually updated their products on the regular with new features instead of letting products die it would be a keeper. But they don’t. After I owned the squid I gave up on them. The Akai force blows this away.
Still worth buying.
thanks for the video and the insights on workflow, the toraiz skipped my radar and I am in the mpc live universe for sketching around and Ableton for working on finishing tracks. The toraiz has a very appealing interface layout with the Tr style seq and extra filter controls, trackpad, etc. plus the build quality looks far superior than the rubberised plastic on the mpc. What a shame they didn't update and provide more longevity in to the software, missed opportunity. The toraiz could of been an amazing groove box.
Lol, you driving up the cost of these machines. Great content. I bought every machine you mentioned on your channel.
Lol wow..You got deep pockets!
Have you done a video on the DSI Tempest?
Thats a good one!.. Got to definitely put that on the list.
Good job, you covered all of key points. This is a very underrated piece of gear. You can tell sometimes the quality of something when there are many videos with good sounding jams.
Yup.
I this series!! Keep delivering these videos DyReck!
No doubt fam thanks.
Great video bro!🙏🏾✊🏾🔥🔥🔥
Thanks fam.. I appreciate it.
Should i buy a Sp 16 als a beginner? I want to make a Boombap Ep. Is it right for that?
Its not a bad piece of gear. You can make Boombap on it pretty easily.
“We don’t believe you. You need more people.” 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao!
I vaguely remember this unit. I had no idea how much you could do with it though! It is pretty dope.
Same here I was impressed with some of the updates.
Great video, looks like an updated version of sequential’s studio 440.
Dave Smith probably had something to do with that lol.
@@DyReckProductions 👍
Ableton live? Would be really interested to hear how hip hop producers moved from the akai gear to Live being the default DAW
No doubt fam..Got to put that on the list.
@@DyReckProductions legend, I hope you're making some bread off of these too
@@sammadden5540 Lol. I feel u.
its dope its just limited. at 899$ instead of 1500, its worth it as a drum sampler. if it was what everyone really wanted it would probably be like 3k$
I use a mixer with my mpc ONLY to get a filter, shame really. Mpc should have a dedicated filter knob too
The mpc 60 has a low pass filter upgrade with knobs and stuff. Pretty coo
Q links buddy
Another excellent video. So much gear out there. Keep em coming!
Thanks bro.
Are you gonna do videos on the Zoom Sampletrak st224 and the Akai s20?
Yo this is too funny. I’m sitting right in front of my SP-16. I took a break to check on TH-cam. Ok now I’m gonna watch your video. 🤣😅😂
Lol.
aite c'mon mane...im still eyein this one lol
The Toriaz is pretty dope..They fixed alot of stuff with the updates.
Do you how this compares to the Roland MV-1 Verselab. They look the same, but the Roland has vocal recoding & processing (and less tracks).... can't find any good comparison.
I know the Toraiz also has autochop..I think it has a little bit more sampling editing features than the MV-1.
@@DyReckProductions it does not have autochop or any type of transient detection. It will only divide the sample into 16 slices which can be deleted or shifted, etc.
@@KipForce Oh ok.
Yeah I'm seeing the similarities on both the mv1 and Toraiz sp 16. They both look like fun sketchbooks but the mv1 has vocals.🤔
I have one and it's a great machine. If pioneer would have seen a couple more software updates through it would have been a classic. They should have done a version 2 as well and it would have competed with the mpc. Pioneer totally screwed this up completely.
Had no clue this existed
Yeah it came out in 2016..It had a little buzz.
@@DyReckProductions Then again, i dont pay attention to shit lmao. I been using a eps 16+ and a record player from the thrift shop, for 17 years now. I got a mpc one with that stimulus check but i didnt know that existed till like 2 months ago when i googled it lol
@@jonathansoko1085 Oh ok..Well if its not broke keep what you been using.. The EPS 16 + is dope.
Same here. I usually keep up with gear but this one escapes my memory.
Kudos to you man, I love this channel
Thanks bro!
you funny as hell on this one man
Lmao Thanks.
"It Christmas already???" lmao! Great video again!
Lol. Thanks fam.
The dj gave birth to the producer
I feel u.
yo no lie, this thing SLIPPED PAST ME! Dang homie, I love my MPC One but I also live buying weird gear and just different gear. I like to make rap music, dance beats, and recently really started building my own samples that i record and tweaking. So sampling is getting a regular use in my studio and i've been getting into DJing. I might have to look into this Toraiz line. Definitely want a standalone if anything tho.
I'm also super into gear that can control my other gear externally thru midi or cv. Arturia Beatstep Pro Sequencer, Korg SQ 64 Sequencer, even recently been using the MPC One for that also.
Oh ok nice!..I love the Beat step pro..its so handy!
I was intrigued by this but the MPC Live dropped and I 4got all about it.
Lol. I feel u.
I love your series...makes me want to buy this! BTW you are mad 😠 funny
Roland MV-1 should’ve been this.
exactly!
HAHAHA Dope video DyReck, you mentioned other standalone machines that are around the same price point that are slighter better. What would you say those are (Akai Force, MPC Live 2 etc)?
The MPC ONE.
Another good video man!
Dammit! How did you know that I was researching it?! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Lol Great minds think alike lol.
This sampler is amazing. U talk kinda like the dj in jet set radio future
I feel u.
What had happen was... my wallet keeps getting emptied by you reviewing all this gear and I get G.A.S. for buying it. 👍🏾😎
Lmao!
SP16 Sample pad 16, AS-1 Analog synth 1 voice.
Did you just glaze over Pioneers prevalence in the DJ market?
Lmao Your right Pioneer does and have been getting busy for years in the DJ market.
you can drop a dish on the floor,then take that sample and turn it into anything.
Word!
It’s solid! Had mine since the beginning, still rocking with it
Nice.
1010Music BlackBox?
Got to put that on the list.
I have the DJS-1000 it’s a beast
Oh ok Nice.
So what other pieces of gear for the same price are a bit better?
word
I think ppl know pioneer for their CDJ’s an mixers more then car speakers or this thing
Lol..I feel u.
I'm not sure if I should buy one of these or not... might be hard to sell if I don't like it. But real analog filters, wow!
It's easy to sell, and they hold their value. In fact the prices are starting to creep up again. You'll have no problems getting rid of it if you don't like it
its time for what had happened waaaaaaaas!
What has happened was: companies hire the wrong people to promote their products, like yesterday behringer dropped a clone of the legendary solina and the folks promoting it didn't even knew it properly
Dang!..Thats crazy!
So underated.i love mine.
I feel you.
I really enjoy your content. Have you done a review on E-mu's Emax yet? Thx bro
Thanks got to put that on the list.
E mu 64
@@rashaidanderson4403 Thats a good one too.
The toraiz was the last product i copped based on promises of future updates. Sold it copped the mpclive. It is missing a lot. Not to say limitations aren’t good but it was not what i was after.
Excellent video!
Filters straight of the prophet, made by pioneer to be easily used by djs in the dark. This things going to be super playable and sound great. Want more than that drop it into your daw you mouse tweaker.
Its pretty nice and straight forward.
Okay. Hadda sub, cuz your delivery is hilarious. Dave Smith makes good synth, is fart smeller.
Lol. Thanks.
good video man!
Thanks fam.
Had one of these for a couple of months, nice little machine sold it when it looked like they werent really updating the product.
Exactly
Same, although I might buy another one and just accept its limitations. It was one update away from being perfect
I like the overall look of the Toraiz, especially those Sequential Circuits style knobs. It looks solid and professional. I wonder now how it stacks up functionally against the MPC One.
The One has more features and you can do more because of the software. But your right the Toraiz build is better.
I have both , can’t lose with either mpc or Toraiz sp . Toraiz !!!!!!!!!!!
Got the one. Wanna try out this toraiz and the maschine plus. My bro sabe hates the maschine.....i wanna see it for myself. He loves the mpc. He got the x, sold me the one.
can you do one on mpk249? I've seen some sick footage but not enough. I dunno if you only do standalone stuff but if you don't that would be sick.
No doubt fam..Ima put that on the list.
Then what happened was Pioneer Electronics sold off their remaining shares in Pioneer DJ and Dave Smith moved in with Focusrite. I can't see Alpha Theta doing anything with the Toraiz lineup, they are too busy repainting old DJ controllers...
It's a damn shame tbh, this had the potential to be the best hardware sampler ever made
Dave Smith had very little to do with this one apart from the filter. The firmware is all Pioneer. AS-1 though, DS wrote it entirely, wish they could get the rights to maintain it too.
They had the nerve to drop a SP-16 and still dropped the ball.
Toraiz and mpc live are the 2 spider-mans pointing at each other meme
Lol Word!
You should audition for voice overs for cartoon movies
Ahh man!!..My boy tells me that all the time Lol!
no one has used this to its potential on youtube yet. i don't make user vids so.....
Lol I feel you.
I think the price was too steep especially for them especially for Pioneer to be jumping in the music production department, Who's going to pay $1499 when they can get an MPC Live for the same price?
Do a video about the violin
Lmao!
Amazing review )))))
Thanks fam.
Where can I purchase some of your beats?
i wanted to get one of these but there wasnt too much information until your video
I don't get the logic of the *CUTOFF Knobs* for Low and High Pass filters. Shouldn't they be the mirror of what they are? At least that's the way on other devices!
getting mine tomorrow, I may take a sick day! I will tell my boss, well wah had happened was.......
Lmao! Nice!
@@DyReckProductions dumbass guitar center sent a roland power supply!!! guess I will wait til my new power supply is delivered via slamazon
@@DirtyDiezel Lol.
Hey is this Kool Kriss from SF?
I bought it in 2017...i remember out the box easy to use no manual needed. The sound was amazing and professional. The midi implementation was atrocious...and hence the reason I sold it. Fast ffd to my akai force purchase...a pain in the ass to learn...but fkn amazing!!!!!!!!
I feel you..I just got one..I dig it.
Do the sp2400
No doubt fam.
@@DyReckProductions ain't been enough time too evaluate the unit, ain't been out long enough
@@MrScrooge1980thats true..... really thinking about getting one.....if i had the bread
Saturday night fever dancefloor.
Lmao!
This one is the funniest wah had happen was
Lmao!
Do the Sequential Studio 440 Drum Sampler next.
Got to put that on the list.
It’s a pioneer toraiz, BUY IT 🤣💯
Word!
Supposedly, this joint got the tuning algorithms like an SP1200, which adds the artifacts
Yeah its not bad..And pioneer gave it some good updates.
Pioneer Tore Ass. Lol. This machine is kinda cool. Might look this up. Dave Smith or Roger Linn signature gear is a collectible. 💯 Funny commentary. 😂 Bruh.
Lmao thanks.
We dont believe you , you need more people fam I fell out holding my chest dying laughing when you said that I was like what is the first time I saw it any piece of equipment I see come out with to to much Disco lights I usually avoid Dave Smith should have try bring back the studio 440 cause that joint was way ahead of it's time all the boys to men and another bad creation stuff was done on that .
Wow Another bad creation! You just took me back to the playground.. Iesha!.Lol.
hey, really funny video !! =)
Lol. Thanks fam.
Looks like the Roland mv1
They do look a lil similar.
@@DyReckProductions no the Roland ,& akai stole this machine looks & idea
👍🏾
Thanks fam.