The 997 Porsche 911 Targa Is the Quirky 997 Nobody Remembers

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    This is the 997 Porsche 911 Targa. It's a rare, surprisingly practical 911 that many people don't know exists. We are thrilled to be offering this one for sale on CARS & BIDS!! Today I'm reviewing this 997 Targa, and I'll show you all the many quirks and features. I'll also get behind the wheel and review the driving experience.
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    CHAPTERS:
    00:00 THIS...
    00:43 It Can Be Yours On CARS & BIDS!!!
    01:25 History of the Targa
    06:19 How the Targa Roof Works
    08:46 A Hatchback??
    10:42 More Targa Touches
    11:26 Next Generation of the Targa
    12:43 Powertrain
    14:33 Interior Buttonfest
    16:21 Sport Exhaust & Suspension
    17:22 Trick Cupholders
    18:43 Rear Seating
    19:45 Front Trunk
    19:59 Driving Experience
    24:32 Final Thoughts
    24:54 DougScore
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  • @hami_1012
    @hami_1012 หลายเดือนก่อน +2185

    We demand Doug to sit in the backseats.

    • @chatmaigre
      @chatmaigre หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    • @xdw4357
      @xdw4357 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

      His quality has gone down since he started cars and bids

    • @Madge104
      @Madge104 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      He used to

    • @Kacpa2
      @Kacpa2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Doug got lazy. Also if he finally does again i hope he stops stupidly getting in from driver side and use the passenger side like a normal person would(especially since its most often the passenger seat that os mkst optimized for quick ingress, old toyotas had special levers for rear passengers to fold and slide front passenger seat with one lever press in the foot well.

    • @eurodecibel
      @eurodecibel หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ALWAYS

  • @livingcoconut1417
    @livingcoconut1417 หลายเดือนก่อน +1870

    being a multi millionaire, Doug no longer has to squeeze himself into ridiculously small back seats with stupid and hilarious music playing along 😔

    • @johnwinters9235
      @johnwinters9235 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      that's while he's got Alanis now putting herself into the trunks of cars she reviews.

    • @BabyJesus66
      @BabyJesus66 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She left ​@@johnwinters9235

    • @Nitrousbird
      @Nitrousbird หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@johnwinters9235 she left C&B.

    • @custodio1
      @custodio1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂

    • @El_Negro2003
      @El_Negro2003 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@Nitrousbirddoesnt she have her own job as an car journalist with her husband that she’s been doing for a while now?

  • @hobear637
    @hobear637 หลายเดือนก่อน +409

    I love that Porsche didn’t cancel the Targa when no one bought it, and instead vastly improved the next generation Targa in the 991 and made it one of the most coveted trims of the Carrera lineup.

    • @aa134368
      @aa134368 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I certainly never forgot these. I was like 10 when they came out, I thought they were awesome, had the die-cast 1:20 model sitting on my shelf until I moved out of my parents house.

    • @hobear637
      @hobear637 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@aa134368 you sir, just made me feel old asl

    • @er_hunt
      @er_hunt หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@hobear637 It’s to late to feel old at people born in the nineties. Get this: I was born in 2005 and I turn 19 in a couple months!

    • @rayboccino5174
      @rayboccino5174 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly. Compared to the Targa, the Cabriolet looks boring. The 991 Targa has all the correct design references, the hoop, the Corvette-like-before-the-Corvette rear windshield, the lot. I just love the Targa and everyone should too. 💗

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@aa134368well seems like cancelling out a Targa model could be a disaster for Porsche in general.

  • @supermario1124
    @supermario1124 หลายเดือนก่อน +809

    “MOMS911” love it!

    • @macbook802
      @macbook802 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      If you look at the menu at 15:35 his audio settings have been adjusted to compensate for blown speakers. Blown speakers is not a listed quirks and feature on cars and bids website

    • @StreetPreacherr
      @StreetPreacherr หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That might explain another reason these didn't sell especially well. I think people tended to consider the Targa a 'Chick Car'.

    • @nick2128
      @nick2128 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Better than driving a boxster

    • @_l-_-l_
      @_l-_-l_ หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@macbook802 Or they just didn't feel like bass... I set my sterio like this all the time and also do the opposite and I can assure you my speakers aren't blown, I installed all 12 of them myself.

    • @adamfrbs9259
      @adamfrbs9259 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Literally exactly what my brain just blurted out at first sight. Ha nice!

  • @HerrBrutal-bl2fk
    @HerrBrutal-bl2fk หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Dough, singlehandedly, just raised the value of the 8459 997 Targas produced by a healthy 100 percent or so. Gotta admire this guy!

  • @caldera11
    @caldera11 หลายเดือนก่อน +487

    Yes, that is exactly what I want, I DO want 200 physical buttons that instantly work rather than a touch screen with no feedback that lags like hell

    • @jonanthonylosito2004
      @jonanthonylosito2004 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Yea.. most auto journalists (aside from Throttle House, SavageGeese and The Straight Pipes) are obsessed with big touch screens. It's honestly annoying to me. Big screens tend to blind people's eyes even while driving at night, and it could cause some people to have seizures. Most automotive TH-camrs dont realize. This is why more and more newer cars have gotten big, heavy and expensive over the last decade or two.

    • @kaisuhina8024
      @kaisuhina8024 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@jonanthonylosito2004 lol, screens never bothered me in dark and in most cars they automatically darken in the dark. And if some screen could give you seizure you have no business driving a car.

    • @wojciechmuras553
      @wojciechmuras553 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Why exactly do you need instant access to things like "disable proximity key", or "passenger airbag"? Buttons that don't get used much don't have to be accessible, especially if they're only adjusted when parked.

    • @connorPiper0
      @connorPiper0 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It must be because if you only have a day or two with a car, a touch screen is better as it feels more similar to our devices. But the buttons are something you eventually get used to after ownership and then know where everything is by feel. @@jonanthonylosito2004

    • @Doctors_TARDIS
      @Doctors_TARDIS หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      What's awesome is you can get this awful infotainment system replaced with a modern touchscreen one from porsche that eliminates most of the garbage buttons, but keeps the important ones.

  • @bigmudtarrs
    @bigmudtarrs หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    I had one of these. That hatchback makes it the most practical 911. The back seat becomes an easy access cargo area. The top tends to have a lot of squeaks and rattles though. I sold it on Cars and Bids!

    • @cwdrsch
      @cwdrsch หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The hatchback was hands down the best part, made it to easy to fit luggage, backpacks, groceries, really anything.

  • @ukiyo5283
    @ukiyo5283 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    997.2 Targa 4S is probably my favorite 911 just in terms of design. The light bar and sheer sense of width looks great.

    • @dustmighte
      @dustmighte หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That rear glass canopy is delightful!

    • @vicariousity3046
      @vicariousity3046 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      it isn't a lightbar it's a plastic reflector. the LED taillights are nice though

    • @mannykings5
      @mannykings5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is my attainable dream car. In red too. One day I’ll get it.

    • @NickM-qi4sq
      @NickM-qi4sq หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed! a 997.2 Targa 4S in dark blue is my dream 911

    • @cudak888
      @cudak888 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@vicariousity3046 It's neither a lightbar nor a plastic reflector. It's a _heckblende_ .

  • @cwdrsch
    @cwdrsch หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    This car has my heart. I had my dream spec and it was totaled out about a year ago. All the other 997s I’ve had I’ve loved but not the same, still looking for the perfect car.

    • @LuisUrbieta
      @LuisUrbieta หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I thought Doug was going to review a new car built today.

    • @rmp5s
      @rmp5s หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Brutal man. I've lost a car like that, too. Really sucks.

    • @macbook802
      @macbook802 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you look at the menu at 15:35 his audio settings have been adjusted to compensate for blown speakers. Blown speakers is not a listed quirks and feature on cars and bids website

    • @LuisUrbieta
      @LuisUrbieta หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@macbook802 True

    • @bigchief9313
      @bigchief9313 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      “It was totaled” I wonder whose fault that was

  • @felixhoppe484
    @felixhoppe484 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    I own a 996 Targa, so a couple more fun facts: unlike the 997, the 996 is only available with RWD. This particular Targa roof debuted in the 996 and the roof itself is a carryover part from the previous generation. Most of the part numbers, if not all, are 996 numbers.
    If there is a malfunction with the roof, your wallet is going to bleed. Speaking out of experience… this cars roof seems to work perfectly.

    • @peterjordansonthe2nd731
      @peterjordansonthe2nd731 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The Targa looks good, but it's essentially a glorified sunroof. The glass roof is marginally cool, but in terms of owning a car, I would never want a glass roof. If you live in a hot area, you'll understand why

    • @JR_harlow
      @JR_harlow หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What year is your targa? I am a huge fan of the 996 targa myself and have came close a couple of times to getting one, well that's been about four years ago and I'm really starting to think I missed my window on it sadly but I'm still looking. Congratulations on having my favorite car period.

    • @JR_harlow
      @JR_harlow หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@peterjordansonthe2nd731 really you can have it tinted with something like 80% sun/heat blockage and you don't even have to have any dark tint. They have nearly clear tint just for blocking heat.. sure a targa ain't for everyone but glorified sunroof is what it is. The rear hatch opens panoramic sunroof are on lots of new luxury vehicles and I think they are awesome but not for everyone

    • @srsg-wy8tr
      @srsg-wy8tr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That was fun!!!

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@peterjordansonthe2nd731is the Targa 4S available on 4WD drivetrain?

  • @maddogsk8er86
    @maddogsk8er86 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    My buddy retired and bought this car in Silver. I'd never seen one before, and was shocked at how the targa operates. We're in the PNW so lots of rain and intermittent sunshine. It's the prefect solution for year round use.

  • @ryansmithza
    @ryansmithza หลายเดือนก่อน +233

    That’s more of a sunroof than a targa but it’s probably one of the nicest options for a 911 that will mostly be a cruiser. Certainly better than a convertible.

    • @johnwinters9235
      @johnwinters9235 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      the targa's were junk, sketchy mechanics for the roof. Many, many stuck open in the rain and good lord the repairs to the roof were (and still are) VERY expensive.

    • @computerhelpcc
      @computerhelpcc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      convertible makes back seats more usable, and in canyon drives the sounds are improved.

    • @nealvaughan6538
      @nealvaughan6538 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn't they make the targa from a convertible?

    • @computerhelpcc
      @computerhelpcc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nealvaughan6538 you stumped me on that one. Long-time 911 cab manual driver, and the cab is great BUT cab maintenance is not cheap. Cab top installer does not do cab mechanicals and many will do motors and pistons but not all the other piddly can bushings.

    • @ricklee3
      @ricklee3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      panoramic roof just like what they have on Cayennes and Macans these days

  • @TG_8
    @TG_8 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    Doug’s the kind of guy who REALLY likes the word “tremendously”

    • @MrVictorAdrian
      @MrVictorAdrian หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tremendous comment

    • @superchargedsteve3411
      @superchargedsteve3411 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      More than Trump?

    • @SwapBlogRU
      @SwapBlogRU หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I thought he was more about "thissss" and "aaaalright"?

    • @nickelarcade6934
      @nickelarcade6934 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He also says frankly way too much. 😂. We love YOUR quirks and features, Doug

    • @TG_8
      @TG_8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nickelarcade6934 indeed, we do

  • @bbart609
    @bbart609 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Understated but phenomenal review. I love when he delves into a specific vehicle's history especially. You can almost perceive the wave of memories from his Porsche days flooding back as he spoke during the driving portion. THISSS is the type of review I cherish more than others. Well done Doug!

  • @AnomymAnonym
    @AnomymAnonym หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Absolutely love all the buttons in the cockpit there, it looks so damn cool and is so damn functional!

  • @sshahheydari
    @sshahheydari หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The silver trim piece is the most obvious giveaway to a 997 being a Targa. Also, all non-Targa models had rounded glass where the pillar met the rear deck. The Targa model's glass met at a sharp point.

    • @TheNick26440
      @TheNick26440 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looks like it's a convertible with a changed out roof actually if you look at the lines

    • @tff000
      @tff000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, like a traditional Audi design (e.g. mk1 or mk2 TT, A4s, etc).

    • @jaykarolyi9237
      @jaykarolyi9237 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheNick26440 A quirk not mentioned by Doug is that these start out as a Cabriolet body and are then fitted with the whole Targa roof structure as an addition. So the body on these are very rigid...even more so than a coupe if I recall. My 2002 Targa feels very solid and rattle free even with 145k miles.

    • @TheNick26440
      @TheNick26440 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jaykarolyi9237 I never knew that originally. Learned something new

  • @starkyslp16
    @starkyslp16 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    To me, a targa top almost always looks better vs a convertible. Helps keep the roof line and shape of the car without looking awkward like most convetibles based on coupes do. This 911 is really more of a sunroof though...

  • @vitoinostroza5885
    @vitoinostroza5885 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Always loved the 997's, either turbo, gt3rs or the targa, man, they always looked and perform good, truly masterpieces

  • @ivanvasilev9417
    @ivanvasilev9417 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I have been watching Doug since 2017 and he has always started with the most important part of the review instead of keeping it for the end. Respect

  • @zorrito74
    @zorrito74 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Doug, the only reason the Cayenne manual kept selling was that you kept pushing them on dealers when you did allocations. I remember those days when you came to my desk and reported the numbers. 😂

  • @qikqbn77
    @qikqbn77 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Finally, Great praise and love for the 997 coming from Doug. Pretty much summed up why I have not "upgraded" to newer Porsche 911s. I have owned my 997.1 Carrera 4S for 14 years now. Still love driving it just for the pleasure of it. Checks all my boxes for driving fun and excitement. No matter how slow or fast you drive, it is a great pleasure.

  • @Gamer_769
    @Gamer_769 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I am not a convertible guy, but man this is so much better than the convertible AND the coupe, I want this now!

    • @pleaseelaborate3163
      @pleaseelaborate3163 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I find it crazy that these aren't super popular

  • @thomasbodoczy895
    @thomasbodoczy895 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Targas are so much better than convertibles because they don’t destroy the body lines of the car while still providing an open air experience

  • @panaceiasuberes6464
    @panaceiasuberes6464 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I own 2 so it's not forgotten around these parts, Doug.
    Smoothest almost-cabrio car in the world.

  • @lancefron1
    @lancefron1 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Something about the C pillar makes this one of my all-time favorites.

  • @TheZakk28
    @TheZakk28 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the Targa 997 is just beautiful. I think it’s seriously under appreciated. The 997 in general in a manual is an incredible car. All models. Especially the Turbo

  • @meeker03
    @meeker03 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I had a 2007 Targa (non S) and loved it. Was like having a convertible without the ugliness of a convertible top.

    • @Thatguy55595
      @Thatguy55595 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did it feel having the plebeian model?

    • @meeker03
      @meeker03 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Thatguy55595 HAHAHAHA. I had a 2005 997 C2S before the 2007 Targa. Honestly, they were very similar. I could tell the C2S was faster, but with the weather we get in MA the added AWD from the Targa made a bigger difference. They were both super fun cars.

    • @Thatguy55595
      @Thatguy55595 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@meeker03 I’m jealous lol I want a Porsche

  • @Andrew-bg2ti
    @Andrew-bg2ti หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The 996.1 Targa is available in 2 wheel drive whereas the 997s are all AWD. IMO the hatchback 996/997 targa is the missing link that shows the evolution from the 928 to the watercooled 911 (sales figures even seem to confirm this). As an owner and someone who thinks the 928 is just about the perfect car, however, I'm on the hunt for a 996 Targa 2 manual but they are surprisingly rare.

    • @jaykarolyi9237
      @jaykarolyi9237 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Small correction...the 996.1 did not have a Targa...it was introduced for 2002 with the 996.2 updates including the more desirable 3.6 engine. I have a manual 2002 Targa and it is perfect for the NC mountains where I live. Weather changes from freezing to sunny and glorious within minutes and I open the roof all the time. Keep looking, they are out there!

  • @eag8999
    @eag8999 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A better theory for the Targa only coming in awd is that the awd cars are wide body and they only had to make panel adjustments for that one model.

  • @K1m_Jong_Wick
    @K1m_Jong_Wick หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The 997 Targa is a truly underrated 911.

  • @ajgago
    @ajgago หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is the one i remember the most. i got into one at a car show and instantly fell in love. it's beautiful in green 😍

  • @BiragovDetailing
    @BiragovDetailing หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    To me the “Real” Targa is the one with curved glass (991, 992 or older one from 80s). 997 looks little bit more like coupe with glass roof and I think it’s my leas favorite. But from collectors state point it’s an ultra rare car and still deserve to care a special place in Porsche lineup. I’ll take 997 turbo over this all day

    • @ThePegasusAirforce
      @ThePegasusAirforce หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Collectors don't really like this one despite the rarity. It doesn't really have the look and feel of older/newer targas, it's just a very big sunroof.

    • @BiragovDetailing
      @BiragovDetailing หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePegasusAirforce I can agree

    • @steadyjumps
      @steadyjumps หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a sun roof, albeit a nice one, but a Targa top is the removal of the center piece leaving an unobstructed view from the door edge to the sky.

  • @hossamhurricane
    @hossamhurricane หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Perfect shape and color❤️❤️❤️

  • @bartp7969
    @bartp7969 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    That color is just beautiful.. Real head turner!

    • @caldera11
      @caldera11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      *Turns head* look it's the same porsche as every other porsche

    • @SynthiaVan
      @SynthiaVan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I used to hate the color when I first started selling them, but it grew on me. I thought red was too Ferrari, too Corvette. Silver was better for Porsche. But after seeing silver after silver, the red began to catch my eye.

    • @____-gy5mq
      @____-gy5mq หลายเดือนก่อน

      red head turner

    • @macbook802
      @macbook802 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you look at the menu at 15:35 his audio settings have been adjusted to compensate for blown speakers. Blown speakers is not a listed quirks and feature on cars and bids website

    • @ryanr482
      @ryanr482 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@caldera11hey at least it’s not black white or silver 😂

  • @1vw4me
    @1vw4me หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know someone who had this exact model.....colour and everything. Track package too. It was AWESOME!!!! Probably one of my fav 911's. Just fantastic.

  • @WhiteMouse77
    @WhiteMouse77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this spec!
    Ideal one for my project of conversion into on airbags lifted "like" Dakar version with big red concave 5-spoke RUF wheels in chromed barrels and chunky tires.😊

  • @dwightmoore3060
    @dwightmoore3060 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's more to the little flap between the cupholders. The purpose of closing the central panel once you deploy the cupholder(s) isn't just cosmetic. If you don't close it up, the cupholder is then free to swing sideways as you corner. As it swings sideways, the bottom of the cupholder rises to allow it to re-enter its little storage slot. That, in turns, changes the cup holder to a cup ejector. The bottom rise up, forces the drink container upwards, and away it flies, spilling its contents all over the interior. I can't be the only 996/997/991 owner to have discovered that the hard way!

    • @IHavePi
      @IHavePi หลายเดือนก่อน

      😆 At what speed do you take the bends in the road?

  • @mjhannaman
    @mjhannaman หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Got my first 911 last year, a 6 speed manual '07 Targa 4 in Guards Red, but also with a Fabspeed air intake and the head unit switched to a modern Kenwood unit with CarPlay. I know it sounds cliched, but I'll never sell this car, it literally checks every single box. Thanks for the review Doug, it was so fun seeing my car in your hands! :))

    • @ronin84
      @ronin84 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Congrats! They got me with the Macan. I'm looking forward to adding a 911 to the stable eventually :)

    • @biznatcho7
      @biznatcho7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope that you’re saving up for the Porsche Classic headunit with CarPlay.

    • @aguynamedben
      @aguynamedben หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice! My 997.2 Targa has a Fabspeed intake! Makes a good difference in the sound. I’m in CA so had to put a stock airbox back on for smog, but the Fabspeed one went right back on. Mine also has the Billy Boat Exhaust center muffler bypass. Zippy sounding and feeling!

    • @aguynamedben
      @aguynamedben หลายเดือนก่อน

      @biznatcho7 NM Automotive makes a stealth kit for CarPlay on the 3.1 version of the head unit, pretty cool. I think that only works on 997.2s, though.

    • @biznatcho7
      @biznatcho7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aguynamedben PCCM Plus is compatible with 997.1 and has OEM fit and finish

  • @matteon1222
    @matteon1222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a “regular guy”, and life long 911 enthusiast, I went with the glass top Targa for the exact reason. I appreciate unique and different cars. 911’s are all under the radar, but for the IYKYK crowd, it’s a fun conversation starter. I looked at hundreds of 911’s up to around the $70k mark, but once I got fixed on the Targa, there was no other choice. Mine is a 996, but it’s a beautiful spec, narrow body (which I prefer), 6 speed, low mileage and was half my budget. I love it.

  • @jayb33
    @jayb33 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes! I absolutely love my 997.2 Carerra S manual. It's a perfect sports car.

  • @ruk2023--
    @ruk2023-- หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It's a very well engineered sunroof.

  • @Ametisti
    @Ametisti หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can see the appeal of the targa. I don't like the idea of softops so if ya can't make a hardtop work, a targa seems a good compromise. Plus, with the glass roof, panoramic sunroof is a nice perk when the weather isn't roof-down suitable.

  • @DarkKnightwing75
    @DarkKnightwing75 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s actually might be my favourite 997, I’ve always loved the look of it with the different shape rear glass and added chrome and the glass roof, really cool car

  • @unloveableandre
    @unloveableandre หลายเดือนก่อน

    50% of this video is about the history of the brand, of the model, and the targa top. And this is so great to watch. Great video, Doug!

  • @kimaniharris7922
    @kimaniharris7922 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    When I started my job at porsche as a service valet, I drove a few macans and cayennes around before getting into a 911. There was a silver 997 Targa in for service that needed to be brought up front. I was handed the keys, and it was the first 911 I ever had the pleasure of driving.

    • @HerrBrutal-bl2fk
      @HerrBrutal-bl2fk หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great story! Greetings from Sweden, a country that truly loves Porsche, as most of us can't afford a Koenigsegg. 🙂

  • @jibmaster
    @jibmaster หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great review. I own a 09' 6MT 4S Coupe. Agree here: the shifting is SO good. CGT good?! OK then! It's a fast too. The .2 DFI engine form 09+ is powerful, reliable and tons of torque. The .1's do suffer a few more engine issues so if you plan on bidding this one a PPI I feel an important consideration. The warmer climate and low miles with likely good maintenance will provide some reassurance this is a good one with little bore scoring issues. Oh, this car needs engine mounts bad. Notice the flex when the sport exhaust was demonstrated. Not an overly difficult DIY or expense if taking to a shop. Guards Red always a great color on the 997. Most silver, black and white. Cool car! Oh, Doug I had heard Porsche only offered the Targa in AWD because the added weight with all the glass and mechanicals up high made the 2WD version somewhat unstable. 4WD versions are so planted. Someone's going to be stoked on this one!

  • @100percentporsche
    @100percentporsche หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've had around 13 Porsches from 2009 till now (2024) and although I currently own a GT4RS I am on my 4th 997! I started with a white 05 997C2 manual, then had an 07 Targa 4S Tip, then a 997 07 GT3 (should have kept it 😭) and then an 07 C2S Manual. I have now just bought a white 2006 Manual C2 with zero options, it's base as base can be (except for the 8 way seats) and it's A PEACH. I totally love it and I am so so happy to be back in a 997 Manual. It is perfect!

  • @krudmuphinstudioz
    @krudmuphinstudioz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Targa 4S has always been my favorite 911. It's subtle and classy looking, and arguably the best daily-driver Porsche. It captures the original spirit of the 911 better than many of the other models in my opinion. My favorite version is the (991) Targa 4S which had design elements inspired by the original Targa 911.

  • @GuantanamoGG
    @GuantanamoGG หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The fact Doug got up at 5am just to drive shows how much of a car guy he is

    • @ricklee3
      @ricklee3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If I had access to a Carrera GT I would be doing the same thing

  • @darthmalgus9039
    @darthmalgus9039 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    A hardtop 911 convertible is such a good idea

  • @simonelliott5956
    @simonelliott5956 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Doug, I’ve come close to buying one of these in the UK many times, I have a 991.1 C4S which I’ll be changing for a 992 GTS soon, but wanted an older car as a fun weekend car, this may well fit the bill.

  • @kerrywilliams6596
    @kerrywilliams6596 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Targa is the one to have if you don’t plan on go to a track. Gorgeous and I’ll bet an absolute joy to drive.

  • @UJard
    @UJard หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I've been watching your content for 6 years and love it. I have to be 100% honest though, the quality took a big dip ever since you started recording inside instead of outside, from the scenery to the lighting.

  • @ukaszbarszcz7861
    @ukaszbarszcz7861 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Doug the type of guy to tell us about Porsche cupholders for the 1008th time.

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are the type of guy who still thinks that "Doug is the type" posts are even funny~

    • @inzane.hanson
      @inzane.hanson หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Flies2FLL they are still funny! Now go take your grumpy vibes somewhere else

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@inzane.hanson No they are not-
      🖕

    • @ozarkliving7263
      @ozarkliving7263 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@inzane.hansonthey are not. Grow up.

  • @aguynamedben
    @aguynamedben หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a 997.2 Targa and love it! Doug nailed it. Only a few notes:
    * because it’s AWD it has the wide chassis and hips, looks much more aggressive!
    * last gen of hydraulic steering rack
    * the 997.2 has different targa top buttons than the 997.1
    * 997.2 has unique reflector bar, 997.1 does not
    997 Targas are amazing!!!

  • @Jz997.1
    @Jz997.1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I OWNED ONE IN ORANGE! It was such a great practical car with good amount of power. i had the Targa 4S and was a perfect winter sports car (and the fact that it was my only vehicle)! Thanks for making me regret trading mine for a brand new 2013 C63 sedan at the time!

  • @SynthiaVan
    @SynthiaVan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is one I never really understood when I was selling exotic cars. I didn't like the C-pillar/sharp rear quarter window shape, like a Cabrio hardtop, and its claim to fame was... a sunroof. In my mind it was just a car nobody really asked for. We had a few of them over the years, not that popular. Began to appreciate it more for just being slightly different from all the identical looking Carreras out there! The color also took time to grow on me, initially hated Guards Red, but after like 100 silver Porsches I started to really dig it!
    Love from one 911 mom to another ♥️

  • @billiam247
    @billiam247 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Doug is the kind of guy to have track lighting in his echo-chamber of a garage.

  • @aaronbooth9222
    @aaronbooth9222 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly this is my dream 911. Not in red but this model. Love it

  • @michaelcampbell4503
    @michaelcampbell4503 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 997 Targa is a damn fine car. I have one. I love that it’s a 911, great when it’s sunny or rainy and the unique hatchback feature makes it unusually practical for a 911. Ok it’s not as super sporty as other regular or GT models but it fulfils its brief surprisingly well.

  • @maurinorambuena8802
    @maurinorambuena8802 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One of my favorite cars of all time

    • @riddlerandsa8161
      @riddlerandsa8161 หลายเดือนก่อน

      993 Targa 4S for me.

    • @springertube
      @springertube หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@riddlerandsa8161 Didn't exist. Only came in RWD...but yes, that would be "it"!

  • @tylergoad9493
    @tylergoad9493 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My dream car is a 997 Targa 4S. Glad you are finally able to review one of them.

    • @johnpicillo1988
      @johnpicillo1988 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. I like this style of targa so much more than the other ones

    • @tylergoad9493
      @tylergoad9493 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@johnpicillo1988 agreed! The 997 has always been my favorite generation of the 911, and the way the targa is designed just adds to the beauty. I currently drive a MINI Cooper S 2 door with the two panel sunroof and I enjoy the large glass and the pseudo open top feel when it is open and the windows are down. I imagine it is even better in the 997 targa. One day I’ll know for sure.

  • @SteveWagner-ke8ih
    @SteveWagner-ke8ih หลายเดือนก่อน

    The improvements on the 997.2 Targa 4S are amazing (2009-2012), and the numbers even more rare. Absolutely love mine!!

  • @RayNLA
    @RayNLA หลายเดือนก่อน

    There were quite a few of these rolling around LA back in the day. I would always smile when I saw one.

  • @weezerweezer19
    @weezerweezer19 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    so basically it’s just a large sunroof

    • @1benyko
      @1benyko หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was literally thinking this. Clearly not the definition of a Targa but they got it right with 991s and 992s lol

    • @hankstar.1
      @hankstar.1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah I thought the same thing big sunroof and definitely not as good looking as a targa surprised they even call it a targa

    • @OdyTypeR
      @OdyTypeR หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I _used_ to think it was disingenuous for Porsche to call this car a Targa.
      But in the era of the Taycan "Turbo", when words don't mean *anything* anymore, I guess they retroactively get a pass?

    • @ricklee3
      @ricklee3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Panoramic Roof just like what you can get on option for Cayenne, Macan and Panamera

  • @matthewmoeller86
    @matthewmoeller86 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Sweet

    • @jimjoglung
      @jimjoglung หลายเดือนก่อน

      @matthewmoeller86 no 'first'? where's flatwanni?

  • @KaleMa1e
    @KaleMa1e หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:48 I love the positioning of cupholders - right next to vents, so u can keep your drink cold\warm for some time. Don't know if that was intentional, but that's cool though.

  • @kellinpatler
    @kellinpatler หลายเดือนก่อน

    I almost bought a Targa 4S in Nordic Gold back in 2018. Went with a Carrera S instead that had way more options, but I loved the quirks and functionality of the Targa. I think the 991.2 Targa may be my favorite modern Porsche from a design perspective.

  • @jamesmurmurzancone4532
    @jamesmurmurzancone4532 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Doug the kind of guy to form his own cult and force members to dress like him.

  • @samlepro3
    @samlepro3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not a Porsche guy, but gimme a 992 Targa 4S in charcoal grey with that red interior all day! 🤤

  • @KyleEisenhart
    @KyleEisenhart หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing! Thank you so so much! :-) So love our 996.2 Targa as well!

  • @FepXBL
    @FepXBL หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for reviewing my car, Doug!

  • @vicariousity3046
    @vicariousity3046 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I loved this car so much as a teenager bc nobody knew about it even then lol

  • @andrejahacic1325
    @andrejahacic1325 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A man who can single-handedly change the market value of a vehicle
    Praise our Doug

    • @chrisgardiner2215
      @chrisgardiner2215 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah maybe he'd do me a solid and do a video on my 2009 Nissan Murano 🥹

  • @andresguerin7162
    @andresguerin7162 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Button-full dash looks great!!

  • @crisyar3
    @crisyar3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was my favorite car alongside the XKR from the performance category to drive in Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit. That exhaust sound when I would drive inside a tunnel was otherworldly. I never thought these were rare. I always assumed they were common 😂.

    • @justanotherghost4589
      @justanotherghost4589 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice to see I'm not the only one mentioning Hot Pursuit, for me my favorite was probably the Veyron.. or the GT3RS, or maybe the Zonda, idk, they're all so good 😂

  • @xkhloerodimusx
    @xkhloerodimusx หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love this car so do all the enthusiasts but stop skyrocketing it 😂

  • @tripletboxing4368
    @tripletboxing4368 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's an honor to be the first one to comment on this video that was dropped 16 seconds ago Doug is the best

    • @DctorSkillz1
      @DctorSkillz1 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You will be remembered for this.

    • @alanwayte432
      @alanwayte432 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am sure I am not the only one thinking 🤔 no no why brag about being the first to comment, if your over six years old, maybe think about dating someone of the opposite sex, or get an interesting hobby, maybe a dog to expand your obviously limited life..but honestly there is a whole world out there...

    • @DctorSkillz1
      @DctorSkillz1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alanwayte432 Mate, your comment was longer than his. Maybe we should all go outside.

    • @tripletboxing4368
      @tripletboxing4368 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks ​@@alanwayte432

    • @tripletboxing4368
      @tripletboxing4368 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alanwayte432I wasn't bragging I truly do feel honored to the first to comment on one of his videos since I've been watching him for so long but thank you anyways you're the best

  • @AutomotiveAvocation
    @AutomotiveAvocation หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember! A college professor of mine had a new one back in the day… he was so cool! A super rare version would be the Targa with PDK 997.2 … Pretty sure I’d still rather drive the manual but… it’s the only non GT car I’d want with PDK

  • @L3001USPSA
    @L3001USPSA หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doug is the type of guy that likes the cupholders in the 9X7 generation. These are the same as my 987. These cup holders were probably designed for a 12 oz soda can. They don't hold anything much larger in diameter than that and they are mounted so high that a 20 oz travel coffee mug impedes your view through the windshield! Besides the stripe, you can also tell the Targa from the side by the rear side window that tapers to a point. On the coupe the back corner of the side window is rounded.

  • @drivinginthedcbaarea
    @drivinginthedcbaarea หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sally from cars! 😃

  • @moflow99
    @moflow99 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Reviewed by Doug DeMuro" cost how much extra? 😆

  • @rvdberg
    @rvdberg หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own a targa 997 4S PDK for 4 years now. It’s our holiday car. Quick enough, practical and so much fun to drive.

  • @4tonyfrater
    @4tonyfrater 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a killer video! I own (bought it in 2008) a 2008 911C4S Targa 997.1and it's an incredible ride. I haven't seen any on the road and I live in Cali where the roads are made for this kinda ride. Forever The Bloodline. Forever The Smile.

  • @OS-hx4jk
    @OS-hx4jk หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Doug the kinda guy to set up a car auction business to sell his own cars (and mint money).

    • @ozarkliving7263
      @ozarkliving7263 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow! Did you come up with that painfully obvious comment all on your own or did one of your fellow mental patients help you? Grow up. You are truly irrelevant.

  • @StarsMarsRadio
    @StarsMarsRadio หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember going to a porsche dealer in 2007, wasn't a porsche fan but really liked the targa.

  • @TPD
    @TPD หลายเดือนก่อน

    really cool. great to learn about the targa. nice one doug

  • @edventures9884
    @edventures9884 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love targas! Especially the new 992, looks so good!

  • @chartreux1532
    @chartreux1532 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They're quite an uncommon Sight, even here in Germany where you see all kinds of 911s every few Minutes it seems. I can only think of a few Times i've seen one on the Autobahn or in the City
    Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

  • @garythecyclingnerd6219
    @garythecyclingnerd6219 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 996 was also available in targa! I love it because I can throw my stuff in the back, more space than a coupe, and strikes a balance between cab open air and coupe interstate quietness

  • @jackbrennan592
    @jackbrennan592 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doug. Love your videos. Love the reviews. But how many porche variants are we going to review for cars and bids? Waiting for something new to watch and learn about.

  • @ljcool17
    @ljcool17 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the Turbo S wheels! Man I love this Targa with the sliding glass roof

  • @theinternets7516
    @theinternets7516 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely love a targa top sports car. They look awesome and have such great versatility.

  • @MiniTruckMatt
    @MiniTruckMatt 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Doug complains about all the buttons, but that is one of my favorite things about my 2013 Cayenne. When I first got in it I was a bit overwhelmed with all the buttons. Tons of buttons on the dash, center console, and even the head liner. Felt like a jet inside. Took a bit to figure out what all the buttons actually did, but once you learn them it is so nice to have so much control over every little thing in the car without ever having to dig through a touch screen menu

  • @Murek79
    @Murek79 หลายเดือนก่อน

    buttons in the cockpit there, it looks so damn cool and is so damn functional!a very well engineered sunroof.

  • @martinliden8453
    @martinliden8453 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful💖 in other words you can say that Porsche were pioneers when it came to panoramic glass roofs.

  • @richardkaufman1643
    @richardkaufman1643 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doug, this is one of your best reviews ever. Now I know what I am missing, so I’ll watch bidding with increased interest.

  • @NathanDean79
    @NathanDean79 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is a beautiful car. I love the 997. Definantly my favorite generation.

  • @Wojack-01
    @Wojack-01 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I test drove one of those a few months ago actually, it had a fabspeed exhaust and was a real joy to drive.

  • @carsgolfcigars
    @carsgolfcigars หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now this is a Porsche I would invest in and add too my collection. Great episode.