Valentina is everything that people THOUGHT Ronda was (including Joe) when she was in her prime. Too bad that she’s not American so she gets about 1/100th of the recognition.
Valentina is a beast and she won the second fight imo. As for Ronda it's not what people "Thought" she she was. She was legit that for a while, but media, Hollywood and her coach altered that. It's basically the same way Tyson was corrupted in him prime. His dad died and King and the Media went to town on his mind.
@@nicholashale7216 Nah, man, Ronda was a quite good judoka, but other sides of her game (mainly striking, standing defense and footwork) were lacking. They were enough at that time and against that competition, but then came other solid women and exposed her weaknesses. Valentina on the other hand is damn solid all around, as true mma fighter should be.
I respectfully disagree. I’m American and I noticed on a lot of comments on videos that Valentina is well known in America and around the world. She is getting recognition and her salary is starting to show that.
After watching the full podcast, Valentina is amazingly well spoken. Even with broken english. She describes everything in a way that you can understand. She really breaks everything down. 1 of my favorite MMA podcasts from JRE
i know i'm late to the party, but i absolutely agree. she is clearly very intelligent to be able to form her thoughts from a 2nd or 3rd language. she's quite an impressive human being.
Valentina's natural weight class is 125. The only reason why she fought at 135 was because the UFC had no 125lb division at the time, and she came very close to winning the 135lb belt.
I guess. I just watched the fight and I think Amanda easily wins 3rd fight. She gave Valentina to much respect. She will just take her down and ground and pound if they fight again. 5 round really showed what she should have done.
@@gordonschiff3621, nope. She couldn’t even handle 2 rounds of Peña. Amanda can’t handle the grappling and she got pieced up by Valentina in Edmonton. Horrible decision. Should have been 50-45 UD for this lady. Peña tired out Amanda with less than a round of grappling, and wore her down inside of the next round.
By far my favorite female fighter ever. She's humble, she dominates, she learns language after language in respect for fans and opponents... She's just awesome.
I agree for sure. She is quiet but by far the most interesting female MMA fighter period. Speaks multiple languages, can fly planes, shoots guns, a Muay Thai prodigy, always respectful and highly intelligent. Then throw on top that she is beautiful, doesn't get much better. 👌
Imagine seeing Valentina and you didn’t know she’s a fighter. People would assume she’s just an intelligent, sweet, classy lady. They would be shocked to know what a killer she actually is! 🤯
Although that's a very true statement you should really think of people around you the same way,,,,,you never know who you're standing next to or walking by in public. Not insinuating that everyone is a fighter or ultra badass I'm just making a suggestion of the lack of respect for people these days. You don't need to be a super athlete to be dangerous,,,,, I've seen dudes who just train because they love the work look like the where's Waldo character but are severely dangerous but judging from their looks you'd never put two and two together. Never walk around like you can't get touched because Waldo is out there that can send you to another dimension lmao
@@marc2638 exactly, and Waldo may not use his hands! I used to work for cell phone company and had a customer come in with a lady, they seemed normal and he got new service and new phone and left. Got a call a few days later from a detective asking about the dude. Turns out he murdered a guy and was using his identity to buy the phone and was assuming the guys identity he had murdered! That’s a true killer and no one had any idea!
I was literally just thinking the other day about how Joe should have more MMA goats on here. Valentina, Nunes, DC, Cain, etc. Even some repeats like Bisping, Chael, Adesanya, etc. would be cool.
@@kevinstafford3221 Clear enough, either the judges did the belt holder's favor.. or were paid off. Valentina landed more strikes and more powerful strikes as well, displayed.more defence. There was a point where Amanda literally hugged on like a Koala and couldn't do / didn't attempt to do anything. Literally saddling and hoping that Valentina couldn't get out and referee wouldn't stand it up to quick. First criteria to score striking and grappling, rounds 2, 4, 5 were Valentina landing more strikes and more powerful strikes. Valentina also countered much more. Aggression, Valentina showed she wanted to win this fight by K.O, Amanda was banking on it going to the judges. Valentina may not have been fully pushing forward, but Amanda was also happy to keep it at Long reach. Control of the fighting area, I'd say this was 50/50 but it would of never even come to this in majority of the rounds if scored properly. Amanda won first round and round 3 could of gone either way.. That still means Valentina had the edge on 3/5 of those rounds. Valentina's 3 losses can be summed up to this; Doctor stoppage when against Carmouche.. first fight against Nunes in the 3 round(fair decision to give Nunes the win in that one) and the second Nunes match where she literally got cheated out of an obvious victory. Pretty sure her Kick boxing career only has 2 losses as well.. the China Unanimous decision one.. was BS and I don't blame her for crossing over to MMA.. I think she done boxing as well.. but only like a few matches, that she didn't lose. So across 3 martial arts, she has been defeated a total of 3 times, with a large amount of wins under her belt.. and never lost by getting K.O'd. 4 decisions and a doctor stoppage. In my eyes she is definitely the GOAT of her gender.. and this isn't a fanboy crush(as I don't find UFC women attractive). This is determined by watching her kill it in a range of martial arts and going out to fight the best, not cushioning her record. Don't get me wrong Amanda is great, she has destroyed some dominating fighters, but she relies on her brute power to much, she could get a little more technical and maybe she wouldn't gas so easy. Plus I love watching Amanda rail Ronda Rousey against that cage..
@Mystic Editor that's always possible, but it's improbable. The thing about Val is she doesn't fight with ego, she avoids danger even if it makes her look bad to the most observant eye, but she finds a viable strategy for victory really quickly. I don't see her catching Amanda with clean counter though, she's gotten bigger and better at using reach.
I love Valentina !! She’s really my favorite female MMA Fighter! Everything about her is just real and she truly just gets better every time!! And you can see the passion she has for the sport! She loves it! I love that
@@jupitercyclops6521 lol. well i dont know her personally, but i've watched her fights and her performances. I'd like to see her and Amanda duke it out a 3rd time while they are both still in their prime.
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Tbh Amanda does not have anything special, she literally has just More power cause she’s bigger and when he gets into slug matches she does the most damage
Did Amanda ever praise Valentina???? She even disrespected Valentina by saying she clearly won and its not close that's why he don't want a trilogy.....She is a d**k but at the same time also a pus**
@@markfourtwenty9897 Exactly and I feel like Valentina won the last fight. Amanda got the nod in a split decision but I felt like Valentina won. Valentina is the better technical fighter both standing and on the ground.
@@VitalYFZ I like both fighters but when I watch Amanda's interview asking her about a trilogy I was annoyed by her response she says there's no need for trilogy cause the second fight was not a close fight.... This fight breakdown shows that Valentina won th-cam.com/video/IKzo5IC3dpg/w-d-xo.html
This is Brogan meeting a Sensei, in the presence of greatness in a sport he loves, the dudes in awe of her, like a proper fan, she deserves it, the Bullet is a future GOAT.
@@badboykydd1994 If you honestly think Amanda is better than her just because she has a 20 pound weight advantage and was favored by the judges, you are delusional
It is insane how they have even emasculated James Bond. Daniel Craig started out so great, and he ended up a mopey, whinny, needs someone to guide him around, Beta. The fact that Holly-weird even took down JB is wild. No limits for them.
@@RJavier007 well she explains that she knows what's best for her body and those guys knows what's best for there's, what works for one person might not work for another.
Valentina definitely needs to get a 3rd fight with Amanda. In my opinion it's a career defining fight. I truly believe Shevchenko defeated Nunes on the 2nd fight and they're the only challenge to each other. Well at least for Amanda because there's some crazy shit brewing in the 115 pound division that might spill towards Shevchenko's 125 Division.
I agree with the 3rd fight but only if Nunes comes down to fight Valentina. Both times they fought Valentina was fighting at Nunes’s weight. To make things even I think they should fight at Valentina’s weight for the 3rd
@@the1ghrol why on earth should nunes go down? Nunes is double champ, if Shevchenko wants to take a title from Nunes, she has to meet her at that weight. Did anyone tell Yan to drop so that it would be fair for Izzy? No. Life is not fair. Izzy should be light heavyweight champion because he's a better fighter than Yan, but life is life.
@@kingmonde I already explained why I think Nunes should come down if they really want the rematch. I don’t care if they never fight again but if they do it has to be at flyweight
@@the1ghrol Amanda has a fairly noticeable height/build difference compared to Shevchenko who's perfect at 125 but tells Joe Rogan it's dangerous just dropping 10 pounds to 115. Amanda at 125 would very likely be drained and open to health problems similar to the time Anthony Pettis moved down to Featherweight. It wouldn't be fair at all. It would actually benefit Shevchenko immensely. 135 is the only way that fight will happen. Also I'm pretty sure Amanda has 2 official victories over Shevchenko. Amanda could retire right now and still be above Valentina. Unfortunately it's Shevchenklo who's gonna have to take the leap if she wants to leapfrog Amanda for GOAT.
@@kingmonde If she goes down to Valentina and beats her, Nunes can say she beat the best version of Valentina (something Izzy would've done if he beat Jan or if Jan beat Izzy at MW). Nunes has beaten her twice, convincingly or not, but none of those fights were in the weight division Valentina dominated.
Joe: Amanda has power Valentina: She’s just big Joe: She knocked out Cyborg tho Valentina: Everyone has power 😂 She was not going to give any recognition to Amanda
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@@DonJulio510 I didn't mean I was attracted to her. She's obviously gorgeous but she's so complete. Literally as a fighter (skillset is extremely polished and we'll rounded) and as a woman as well. Speaks multiple languages,shoots guns,is very smart and intelligent.
The respect she commands from Joe is obvious. Anyone who knows the fight game knows how good Valentina is. P4p one of the most skilled fighters on the planet.
@@DoggPackNation I said p4p. When size advantages are not taken into account, Valentina is the best. Valentina went up against a naturally bigger fighter in Nunes and arguably won the second or at least was a draw. Imagine if Valentina is as big as Nunes. Nunes would get destroyed because Valentina is a more skilled fighter and any non casual knows that
No.. The fight should've been a draw. Neither fighter went for it. You could've gave it to Val but no way you can say "Definitely" for either fighter...
@@devillucifer6843 I don’t agree that she definitely won. She won, but it was not that clear. Amanda out-landed her and out wrestled/grappled her, but Valentina’s punches were more impactful and that’s why I think she won but it was very close. I’ve watched that fight MANY times and I don’t agree that it was a clear robbery, but Valentina did edge it out to me.
Sadly I think nunes wins in a third fight. She's just too big and nunes is better than she was in the second fight . Valentina will always be better but she's just too small
@MR IV nah, Valentina is the real true champ and everyone knows it. I mean for fucks sake I bet thug Rose is better than lame Amanda and could outclass her with slight ease and ultimately beat her. Bet you any money my guy
@MR IV you know Amanda BARELY can make 135, she is WAY too big to cut to 125, BUT Valentina was wrecking girls bigger than her before they made the 125 div. it was a good fight but i had Valentina winning that second fight. Even in their first fight, Amanda didn't land ANY big shots, and Val may have lost the first 2 round because Amanda held her down, Valentina was beating her ass in the third rnd. if it was Pride rules she would have won both fights...
you cant just claim she won, provide a point of view or some evidence? here are some facts. the fight was 5 rounds valentina never won a single fight stat other than ground strikes.. which she only landed because amanda engaged and landed 2 takedowns.. which valentina had 0. and on those ground strike (her only fight stat she won) she landed a grand total of 4 strikes in a 5 round fight.. wow impressive huh? amanda won strikes. significant strikes. takedowns. control. every fucking stat.
@@corrob you are a complete idiot lol. it doesnt matter if im 150 or 500 pounds.. if i fight at 135 and can cut and make weight and make it like a professional what is the issue? you whine that amanda uses her physical attributes to her advantage (to become the goat of female mma) hahahaha, so i guess jon jones isnt aloud to use his long fucking limbs
I literally have no idea how the statistics say she out landed Valentina in the second fight and why people don’t talk about it as much. She almost didn’t hit her at all & got tagged up every time she came in
@@abhidahiya4007 exactly lol these dudes are pathetic literally obsessing over her “omg she speaks 10 languages” like wtf does that have to do with fighting ? Smh
@@pearldrums92 maybe in the sense of fighting to the death but I’m not even sure about that. However in terms of fighting style and skills they’re way different Diaz is very clumsy with good cardio shevchenko is so perfect and technical at striking and all aspects of mma it’s like watching art seeing her fight. Shevchenko has beaten Amanda in those last two fights as well she just was on the wrong side of the decision. So it’s kind of like comparing a undefeated perfectionist to a clumsy fighter with cardio but a ton of heart. Not too much similar.
@@ThatCasualZach if you think every decision by an mma judge has been consistently perfect just shows your ignorance on the sport. Btw she was 20-30lb less then Nunez and did more then enough to win in the eyes of anyone whose seen the fight. Look through the comments and you’ll see how many people also say she won. I hope they fight a third time because shevchenko knows not to rely on the judges against her anymore. Hopefully nunes agrees.
@@ThatCasualZach also you sound like the kind of guy who even though u got beat in the fight and the majority of anyone watching agrees you got beat. If you got the judges decision you would hold on to it for dear life despite losing the actual fight in everyone’s eyes. I’m glad judges slip up sometimes for ppl like you so you can have hope even while being a loser.
I love the fact she is super measured, collected and respectful. You might think being a super cemented champion like her would take a toll on your humility, not her case though.
Valentina is amazing! She is absolutely ruthless too. She'll knock your lights out, and then dance around your unconscious body lol. She's strong, fast, athletic, smart, humble, respectful, personable... she's got it all, man.
She was right tho - Cyborg fought emotional and backfired on her by going wild and getting KO Nunes will always have the size advantage over Bullet - doesn’t mean Nunes is more skilled tbh, she’s had more glaring weaknesses than Bullet
Except she has won more rounds than Valentina, Val lost a round to Maia. Amanda hasn’t lost a round since GDR who is much better than Maia, no disrespect to Maia.
Normally I wouldn't want to see a 3rd fight when one of the fighters is up 2-0 but anyone who watched both previous fights between Nunes vs Shevchenko knows that it should be 1-1 tied series and 3rd being the rubber match. As far as talent and overall skill in MMA, Shevchenko is by far the best in the women's division. Nunes's brut strength and size is the only reason both fights were even remotely close. Wonder how the outcome would've been if both those fights were at Flyweight (125lbs) rather than Bantamweight?
Agreed, it should be 1-1 tied, that was dog shit scoring.. unlike most people, I actually like Nunez.. but I see Valentina won 2nd, 4th and 5th with 3rd being 50/50.
If that fight happened at 125 Nunes might have literally died from the weight cut. They need to fight at 135, which Nunes might not be able to cut to anymore based on her last performance
Valentina fought 8 rounds against the hardest hitting woman in MMA history and didnt even mention her power. It just shows how elusive she is that she never got hit clean to feel her power.
Watching it back I genuinely believe she got the edge in the second fight. They definitely need to fight again but respect valentina for giving 2 close fights being smaller.
Valentina's only 2 losses the past 10 years were from Nunes! And alot of people think Valentina should've won that 2nd one! So shit, Dana needs to set up part 3, thats about the only fight Nunes can take that will draw, right?
Lets not act like you not talking out of your azz.. Amanda lost the second fight and it wasn't even close.. you wanna see the proof? Watch the blow by blow analysis made by the weasle.. Amanda is as much a "goat" as Francis Nganou is a ballerina...
@Nightfall they're tied 1-1. The first fight Amanda won convincingly and the 2nd fight Val edged out by just a little but judges gave it to Amanda but when you compare their resumes, Amanda blows her out of the water.
She's smart. Gaining a bunch of weight is playing Amanda's perfected game. Can't outplay Amanda at her own style but she'll have to get super technical without that power.
Dude Amanda evolve so much look what she did with the best female fighters in the world, she destroy them If Amanda and Valentina fight each other now Amanda puts her to sleep There is nothing Valentina offers that is dangerous for Amanda, striking she is not winning neither knocking her out, she is not taking her down, in the ground Amanda is a Black belt, i mean nothing!
When I saw her for the first time before fighting Holmes, I knew she would win! Such massive strength and skill combined. She's the real deal! Love you, Valentina. Thanks Joe!
Wilder did much better in the latest fight than he did in the second fight. I don't think the added weight had an effect at all, I think his strategy was much better. Besides weight doesn't matter nearly as much in heavyweight since nearly everyone can KO their opponents and being too big just slows them down
@@craigman7262 He's no Lennox Lewis but he's undeniably skilled mate. Especially compared to Wilder. There's no limit on natural punching power either
I'll tell you what, the ladies are ruling the MMA world right now. I find myself more excited for Valentina, Amanda, Holly, Thug Rose fights than the men.
I think she beat her in the second fight, would love to see them rematch no matter what. Such a high level match up! Love how Joe has so many different types of guests
People talk about her kicks but I genuinely think her defense and counter kicks are so impressive. They way she can check then counter is amazing to see
@@osio7528 I did thankyou and agree her defence is just on another level, genuinely think she would give alot of male bantamweights a run for there money. I'd love to see her fight in person.
@@exposuretherapy it's funny you say that, she's sparred Moreno before: th-cam.com/video/K_0zAk4TLvg/w-d-xo.html She is the most complete martial artist in the UFC today. In more ways than just physical
Lol shitttt, Valentinas only 2 loses the past 10 years were Nunes! And that 2nd fight could've gone either way according to everyone! So shit, Dana might as well set up Nunes vs Valentina 3, that's a fight everyone wanna see
I think Amanda is not just heavy. Her boxing technique is incredible for a woman fighter. Shes got the timing and the power too. Valentina is too small and maybe she is certain on not gaining more weight but is not a rule that you become slower and loss endurance if you take enough time to get the gains. You could actually become as fast and durable but way more strong. Anyways is up to the feelings of each person.
Amanda is a freak of nature. Her reach is out of this world and her punching power is gnarly. The fact that Valentina Shevchenko fought a close fight (many people think she actually won that fight - the judge's decision was pretty controversial) against Amanda makes her one of the greats in my book.
Amanda was just beginning to evolve at the time, look what she did after the Valentina saga, destroy the who is who of woman's MMA and won 2 belts. If Valentina and Amanda fight now i see Amanda putting her to sleep!
Gawd I love Valentina. She is such a humble and honest person.......and one of the toughest chicks I have ever seen fight. I have NEVER seen a woman throw kicks as fast and as precise as her either.
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Amanda Nunes is gross. Absolutely repulsive
Lmfao
Joe Rogan is in his podcasting prime. He's pretty much cleared out his division.
I would say the podcasting prime was before he went to Spotify and they deleted like 50 of his shows for being too controversial.
@@booishoois309 damn is this true?
Lex is giving him a good run for his money
Please climb out of his rear
@@booishoois309 I'm willing to bet you'd degrade yourself exponentially more than Joe did for the same 100M dollar offer.
"she's big and heavy" cuts deep to every female, even an MMA champ
Not when its muscle and weight behind the fist, that shits a compliment
@@JamesLinenX right. Different for a fighter
Are you sure you weren't the one who took it personal even though it has nothing to do with you? 🤣 It's a compliment for a fighter
@@matthewporter1287 this was a joke, making fun of women, nothing more
same could be said about Usman. Dude weighs 20lbs more than any of his opponents
I will never forget when she kicked Jessica Eye into the shadow realm.
Being there was the wildest thing I’ve ever seen. It was kind of a quiet 2nd round until that kick came.
It was ao bad Jessica had to open an only fans 🤢🚩😂
yeah yeah, long and short Amanda will murder her ...again💀😂BOTH her losses were at the hands of Nunes.
@@cmcz1207 same bro
That was the female version of Anderson Silva KOing Vitor. 😂👌 LEGENDARY! Belongs on all highlight reels.
Valentina is everything that people THOUGHT Ronda was (including Joe) when she was in her prime. Too bad that she’s not American so she gets about 1/100th of the recognition.
everyone who watches mma knows this women around the world
Valentina is a beast and she won the second fight imo. As for Ronda it's not what people "Thought" she she was. She was legit that for a while, but media, Hollywood and her coach altered that. It's basically the same way Tyson was corrupted in him prime. His dad died and King and the Media went to town on his mind.
@@nicholashale7216 Nah, man, Ronda was a quite good judoka, but other sides of her game (mainly striking, standing defense and footwork) were lacking. They were enough at that time and against that competition, but then came other solid women and exposed her weaknesses. Valentina on the other hand is damn solid all around, as true mma fighter should be.
I respectfully disagree. I’m American and I noticed on a lot of comments on videos that Valentina is well known in America and around the world. She is getting recognition and her salary is starting to show that.
@@nicholashale7216 truth
Rose Namajunas breathe a sigh of relief when Valentina laughed at the idea of going down to 115.
Lmaoooooo
I can't wait to see Zhang get starched again
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Valentina Shevchenko breathe a sigh of relief when Rose laughed at the idea of going up to 125.
@@Sir1626 rose has no chance at 125 against Valentina.
@@Sir1626 I love Rose but come on, Valentina is the most dangerous women's athlete on the planet
@@aaronfarricker1475 Lol....
Amanda Nunes has entered the chat.
Some of you are deluded by your favoritism.
After watching the full podcast, Valentina is amazingly well spoken. Even with broken english. She describes everything in a way that you can understand. She really breaks everything down. 1 of my favorite MMA podcasts from JRE
She also speaks Spanish, as with English, in Spanish too she makes herself understood in every subject
I agree. She's very articulate and a joy to watch
She needs to be a mom. I think she would grow big time
Her broken English is better than my broken Russian!
i know i'm late to the party, but i absolutely agree. she is clearly very intelligent to be able to form her thoughts from a 2nd or 3rd language. she's quite an impressive human being.
Valentina's natural weight class is 125. The only reason why she fought at 135 was because the UFC had no 125lb division at the time, and she came very close to winning the 135lb belt.
That's how good she is and it was a close fight
Then she fought the GOAT, lost twice and said F that 125 feels much more natural now. Lol..
I guess. I just watched the fight and I think Amanda easily wins 3rd fight. She gave Valentina to much respect. She will just take her down and ground and pound if they fight again. 5 round really showed what she should have done.
She beat Amanda and Nuñes knows it. Look at the expression when the results were announced. Amanda was shocked.
@@gordonschiff3621, nope.
She couldn’t even handle 2 rounds of Peña. Amanda can’t handle the grappling and she got pieced up by Valentina in Edmonton.
Horrible decision. Should have been 50-45 UD for this lady.
Peña tired out Amanda with less than a round of grappling, and wore her down inside of the next round.
By far my favorite female fighter ever. She's humble, she dominates, she learns language after language in respect for fans and opponents... She's just awesome.
I agree for sure. She is quiet but by far the most interesting female MMA fighter period. Speaks multiple languages, can fly planes, shoots guns, a Muay Thai prodigy, always respectful and highly intelligent. Then throw on top that she is beautiful, doesn't get much better. 👌
Totally agree with all that and on top of that she is absolutely gorgeous
She learned all those languages for the same reason she became an expert marksman - in service to mother Russia 🇷🇺
She's not that humble, but I agree, she's an amazing martial artist
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Damn, Valentina wasn't gonna let Joe talk her into acknowledging Nunes. 😂
Imagine seeing Valentina and you didn’t know she’s a fighter. People would assume she’s just an intelligent, sweet, classy lady. They would be shocked to know what a killer she actually is! 🤯
Well…. That’s a stupid thought for me cuz if I saw Valentina at the mall I’d become a full on fuckin fan girl 12 year old 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Although that's a very true statement you should really think of people around you the same way,,,,,you never know who you're standing next to or walking by in public. Not insinuating that everyone is a fighter or ultra badass I'm just making a suggestion of the lack of respect for people these days. You don't need to be a super athlete to be dangerous,,,,, I've seen dudes who just train because they love the work look like the where's Waldo character but are severely dangerous but judging from their looks you'd never put two and two together. Never walk around like you can't get touched because Waldo is out there that can send you to another dimension lmao
@@marc2638 exactly, and Waldo may not use his hands! I used to work for cell phone company and had a customer come in with a lady, they seemed normal and he got new service and new phone and left. Got a call a few days later from a detective asking about the dude. Turns out he murdered a guy and was using his identity to buy the phone and was assuming the guys identity he had murdered! That’s a true killer and no one had any idea!
That’s why i’m in love with her. She’s bad ass, beautiful, strong and intelligent. You can’t find a woman like her everywhere. A rare diamond.
@@The_Primary_Axiom don’t forget she also loves guns and loves to shoot!
I was literally just thinking the other day about how Joe should have more MMA goats on here. Valentina, Nunes, DC, Cain, etc. Even some repeats like Bisping, Chael, Adesanya, etc. would be cool.
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How DC has not appeared on JRE is mind blowing!
Newly reborn brazilian Dern.
Brock Lesnar is supposed to come on soon
Conor the goat too
Valentina already defeated Nunez during their second fight, regardless of what the blind judges ruled.
Yes i thought she won the 2nd fight as well and Valentina is a better rounded fighter and Amanda relies on brute strength
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No doubt, even when weasel broke it down.. he saw what non casuals seen
Clearly???
@@kevinstafford3221 Clear enough, either the judges did the belt holder's favor.. or were paid off.
Valentina landed more strikes and more powerful strikes as well, displayed.more defence.
There was a point where Amanda literally hugged on like a Koala and couldn't do / didn't attempt to do anything. Literally saddling and hoping that Valentina couldn't get out and referee wouldn't stand it up to quick.
First criteria to score striking and grappling, rounds 2, 4, 5 were Valentina landing more strikes and more powerful strikes. Valentina also countered much more.
Aggression, Valentina showed she wanted to win this fight by K.O, Amanda was banking on it going to the judges. Valentina may not have been fully pushing forward, but Amanda was also happy to keep it at Long reach.
Control of the fighting area, I'd say this was 50/50 but it would of never even come to this in majority of the rounds if scored properly.
Amanda won first round and round 3 could of gone either way.. That still means Valentina had the edge on 3/5 of those rounds.
Valentina's 3 losses can be summed up to this;
Doctor stoppage when against Carmouche.. first fight against Nunes in the 3 round(fair decision to give Nunes the win in that one) and the second Nunes match where she literally got cheated out of an obvious victory.
Pretty sure her Kick boxing career only has 2 losses as well.. the China Unanimous decision one.. was BS and I don't blame her for crossing over to MMA.. I think she done boxing as well.. but only like a few matches, that she didn't lose.
So across 3 martial arts, she has been defeated a total of 3 times, with a large amount of wins under her belt.. and never lost by getting K.O'd.
4 decisions and a doctor stoppage.
In my eyes she is definitely the GOAT of her gender.. and this isn't a fanboy crush(as I don't find UFC women attractive).
This is determined by watching her kill it in a range of martial arts and going out to fight the best, not cushioning her record.
Don't get me wrong Amanda is great, she has destroyed some dominating fighters, but she relies on her brute power to much, she could get a little more technical and maybe she wouldn't gas so easy.
Plus I love watching Amanda rail Ronda Rousey against that cage..
Valentina won the second fight 100%
Completely indisputable
There was and argument for the first, I thought the third round could have been 10-8
No she didn’t, it was a draw
If u take your emotions out of it you would see it differently. Glad you're not a judge
I agree I think she won the second
Either way she is way smaller and matches nunes when they fight...I think that makes her the goat
I love her demeanor, never gives Amanda credit. Straight gangster
Why should she? She got robbed the 2nd fight and she wouldve won the first if it was a 5 rounder
@@blessembreaks exactly, joe was trying to get her to credit her a bit too lol
@Mystic Editor that's always possible, but it's improbable. The thing about Val is she doesn't fight with ego, she avoids danger even if it makes her look bad to the most observant eye, but she finds a viable strategy for victory really quickly. I don't see her catching Amanda with clean counter though, she's gotten bigger and better at using reach.
I perceived it as a character flaw
Straight loser
I love Valentina Shevchenko! Everything about her is just on point.
Yeah but she ain't beating my girl Amanda "The Lioness" Nunesssssss
@@randymarsh9488 We will see… Valentina is gonna unleash her round house kick next fight.
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Except for the part where she has lost to Amanda twice and thinks shes superior to Nunes because she dunks on lame 125ers
@@keano9542 lol keep dreaming
Valentina is so dope, her English is really good too considering she can speak like 5 languages fluently
I mean, she is a spy
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How do you know if she speaks the other languages fluently?
I speak 5 languages too. Croatian, Serbian, Montenegrin, Macedonian, Bosnian 🤣
@@Slashplite who asked?
@@Slashplite YO that’s amazing man! I’m learning Korean and Japanese so wish me luck 🤣
I love Valentina !! She’s really my favorite female MMA Fighter! Everything about her is just real and she truly just gets better every time!! And you can see the passion she has for the sport! She loves it! I love that
Where are you from I have the same last name.
Ok mailyn
@@jdawg93 what a creepy thing to ask with absolutely no proof 😂
@@ajorngjdonaydbr its a harmless question, I don't see why he needs proof, you're being a weirdo.
@@ilyab4792 yeh it is! Where are you from?! He could have just said they had the same surname. It's weird as fuck 😂
She's 200% honest which is great and refreshing
A true professional and a damn good fighter
Thats a dishonest statement.
No such thing as 200% honesty.
She's a sore loser
@@jupitercyclops6521 lol. well i dont know her personally, but i've watched her fights and her performances.
I'd like to see her and Amanda duke it out a 3rd time while they are both still in their prime.
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I hear you brother (OR sister, which ever) & I knew what you meant.
I was just giving u shite,
Good to see peeps that can take a joke!
PEACE!
Definitely a good fighter. But she bullshiatted throughout that interview.
I'm in love with this woman. She's a beast in the cage, but so eloquent in her approach.
but she will always be second to amanda
@@laurbster2680 Perhaps so but you will still fall
Great name !!! Oscar 😂
@H B cant you not simp her? Im a straight woman and I simp her lol
@@sarairuiz2369 then ur not straight
lezbeehonest here
Valentina is my favorite female mma fighter. Her technique and fight IQ is on part with the greats of all time.
Plus, she cleans up nice
Repeat what ya hear kid
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I prefer Rose
@@joelmitchell2861 I’m my own man
She doesnt want to praise Amanda not even a little bit 😅 on anything.. But her perspective to weight class is wise .. ✌️
Tbh Amanda does not have anything special, she literally has just More power cause she’s bigger and when he gets into slug matches she does the most damage
Did Amanda ever praise Valentina???? She even disrespected Valentina by saying she clearly won and its not close that's why he don't want a trilogy.....She is a d**k but at the same time also a pus**
@@markfourtwenty9897 Exactly and I feel like Valentina won the last fight. Amanda got the nod in a split decision but I felt like Valentina won. Valentina is the better technical fighter both standing and on the ground.
@@markfourtwenty9897 lmaoo
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Haha I love her. She couldn’t have downplayed Amanda more sweetly
She firmly believes she won that re-match
And so do I
We need this trilogy
Nunes firmly believes she won that re-match
And so do I
We need this trilogy.
@@kingmonde nicely done, well played. 🏆
No, she didn't .
The look on Amandas face when they announced the winner of that decision said it all. Valentina won that fight
The Weasle did a very good breakdown of that fight. Valentina won that second fight.
This is Brogan meeting a Sensei, in the presence of greatness in a sport he loves, the dudes in awe of her, like a proper fan, she deserves it, the Bullet is a future GOAT.
She's a current goat
@@drewcaptian3127 not even the the best woman pipe down bro
@@badboykydd1994 If you honestly think Amanda is better than her just because she has a 20 pound weight advantage and was favored by the judges, you are delusional
well shes a real fighter. he's just a fan
@@badboykydd1994 Valentina beat Amanda in the 2nd fight & was robbed by the judges. She arguably is the the GOAT. 100% in GOAT contention
Valentina should've been the female 007 in the new Bond film.
She should play Cammy White in a street fighter live action movie
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No doubt. She speaks 4 languages. She is also proficient with firearms and is a top 2 female fighter on the planet.
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It is insane how they have even emasculated James Bond. Daniel Craig started out so great, and he ended up a mopey, whinny, needs someone to guide him around, Beta. The fact that Holly-weird even took down JB is wild. No limits for them.
Hopefully after the retirement. Not a good track record for the fighters after they went to the wood.
Valentina, the cutest UFC MMA Champion in history!!
She's cute.
But Rose Namajunas takes that crown..
Gina Carano holds that crown
@@RedDevil66991 BALDYYYYYYYY
Down bad
@@Dany-xs7li nah her personality ruins that one. Literally insufferable besides her tid dees
Her answer about gaining size was brilliant. She's intelligent, wish I could hear her with full native vocabulary.
Worked for canelo
And fury
@@RJavier007 boxing and mma are very different
@@RJavier007 well she explains that she knows what's best for her body and those guys knows what's best for there's, what works for one person might not work for another.
@@natedyton61 agreed, most recent example would be wilder
Joe: “ what would you say Nunes has that other fighter don’t? Is it her power?”
Valentina : “Powver is decoration for all fighters”
Her call-out was savage
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Have you seen
“Elon Musk meets Post Malone”
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂
Yeah but guess who is actually putting people to sleep
@@marcos0055101 Valentina can put girls to sleep as well. Remember the head kick KO on Jessica Eye?
Valentina definitely needs to get a 3rd fight with Amanda. In my opinion it's a career defining fight. I truly believe Shevchenko defeated Nunes on the 2nd fight and they're the only challenge to each other. Well at least for Amanda because there's some crazy shit brewing in the 115 pound division that might spill towards Shevchenko's 125 Division.
I agree with the 3rd fight but only if Nunes comes down to fight Valentina. Both times they fought Valentina was fighting at Nunes’s weight. To make things even I think they should fight at Valentina’s weight for the 3rd
@@the1ghrol why on earth should nunes go down? Nunes is double champ, if Shevchenko wants to take a title from Nunes, she has to meet her at that weight.
Did anyone tell Yan to drop so that it would be fair for Izzy? No.
Life is not fair. Izzy should be light heavyweight champion because he's a better fighter than Yan, but life is life.
@@kingmonde I already explained why I think Nunes should come down if they really want the rematch. I don’t care if they never fight again but if they do it has to be at flyweight
@@the1ghrol Amanda has a fairly noticeable height/build difference compared to Shevchenko who's perfect at 125 but tells Joe Rogan it's dangerous just dropping 10 pounds to 115. Amanda at 125 would very likely be drained and open to health problems similar to the time Anthony Pettis moved down to Featherweight. It wouldn't be fair at all. It would actually benefit Shevchenko immensely. 135 is the only way that fight will happen. Also I'm pretty sure Amanda has 2 official victories over Shevchenko. Amanda could retire right now and still be above Valentina. Unfortunately it's Shevchenklo who's gonna have to take the leap if she wants to leapfrog Amanda for GOAT.
@@kingmonde If she goes down to Valentina and beats her, Nunes can say she beat the best version of Valentina (something Izzy would've done if he beat Jan or if Jan beat Izzy at MW). Nunes has beaten her twice, convincingly or not, but none of those fights were in the weight division Valentina dominated.
Joe: Amanda has power
Valentina: She’s just big
Joe: She knocked out Cyborg tho
Valentina: Everyone has power
😂 She was not going to give any recognition to Amanda
She Will never give credits, she hates Amanda 😅
@@moonxasy656 fax
She is right. All have the same power at that weight.
@@k9m42 oh bullshiat lol.
She’s a big dude
Val is an absolute delight. She’s gorgeous but also thoughtful in her answers. Fucking adorable human being. Go get em Val!
Said she wouldn't bulk up to go to 145, she's is so switched on, wilder tried that.
@@Jerry21238 No one can defeat Lord teleportdinero
@@Jerry21238 135*
She's amazing
I like when she's kicking up those happy feet after she beats up some poor broad haha 🤣
This woman makes me feel like I need to work on myself on so many levels. She is perfect on all aspects my god. What a woman.
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Your a good person. Keep in mind people get rewarded in public for what’s practiced in private.
Do good and don’t hurt a soul. You will have health and wealth.
Have you seen
“Elon Musk meets Post Malone”
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂
Yes. Not soo much attracted to her but the way she speaks and carries herself is attractive.
@@DonJulio510 I didn't mean I was attracted to her. She's obviously gorgeous but she's so complete. Literally as a fighter (skillset is extremely polished and we'll rounded) and as a woman as well. Speaks multiple languages,shoots guns,is very smart and intelligent.
Crazy how Adesanya, GSP and Valentina seem to have the same approach to "moving up"
Why did you include GSP? When GSP fought Bisping at middleweight, he was noticeably bigger than when he fought at welterweight.
@@desyncer GSPs natural weight would have been middleweight. He was big for a welterweight.
GSP got ulcerative colitis from gaining the weight he did for the Bisping fight. He definitely put on weight for it.
Dumb comment, there is a lot of interviews of gsp saying he was choking in protein shakes trynna gain weight.
@@Conflict1922 Lol, no it wouldn't.. he can literally make 155 lbs when dieting.
To me.. Valentina is just the GOAT. so smart. Highly skilled in every style
And always keeps a calm cool head during the fight
Valentina is GREAT not a GOAT
She is damn impressive in everything she says or does.
I didn’t kno she was this cute wow
I learned a lot about her in this interview, definitely impressive
@stryfetc1 Beady eyes and a fivehead
yeah, shes so attractive👌🏼🙄
shes a pro fighter. not ur whack material
@stryfetc1 Free to disagree
1st amendment, bishh
@stryfetc1 well said.
Her English has gotten better. So has her fighting skills. And I still think valentina beat her in their past bout.
Yeah, it was either 49-46 or 48-47 for Valentina.
@@miloandot 48-47 Valentina. She needs her revenge
SHE SPEAKS SPANISH VERY WELL TOO SHE ALWAYS SHOUT OUTS HER FANS IN LATN AMERICA EVERYTIME SHE WINS :_)
I had it 48-47 Valentina
48-47 was the right call, close rounds go to the champ
Finally joe gets a real spy on the podcast, and a beautiful lady
Ariel Helwani asked her about Ben Askren claiming She is a spy and of course she denied being a spy
this joke is so bring and lame at this point
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@@anuph.3806 more ppl think otherwise. Lmao. Nice try troll
@@elvatosquatcho I just don't see why have an mma spy? Russia need to keep an eye on Dana? What would she accomplish? I just don't see the end game.
100% won their last fight. Had Amanda shooting for her life. Completely dominated that fight
100 percent Amanda won
I believe Shevchenko has much more skilled technique then Nunes.
I believe so too. Kind of like Izzy and Jan.
Nunes might still be able to out muscle her though
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No shit sherlock
It's 1-1
But nunes has a mentality that an a confidence that all girls don’t have
The respect she commands from Joe is obvious. Anyone who knows the fight game knows how good Valentina is. P4p one of the most skilled fighters on the planet.
Yeah but what does that make Nunes?? Since she beat her twice lol
@@DoggPackNation naaaah. she lost the second one
@@DoggPackNation I said p4p. When size advantages are not taken into account, Valentina is the best. Valentina went up against a naturally bigger fighter in Nunes and arguably won the second or at least was a draw. Imagine if Valentina is as big as Nunes. Nunes would get destroyed because Valentina is a more skilled fighter and any non casual knows that
joe always trying to get someone to lift weights
Valentina is a flat track bully. She only beats women which is not very competitive because not that many women train mma anyway.
Joe: what's difficult about her style?
Valentina: that's a man
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She's such an intelligent and well spoken individual. Truly a class act.
What is difficult about amanda's style
Valentina: She's A MAN DA
This comment deserves more love. I love Amanda, but this is still hilarious 😂🤣
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A man.... duh!!!
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Glad to see I'm not alone 👊🏾
@@Flex4LX it's so obvious right.
Definitely beat Nunes in that second fight, let’s run it back.
No.. The fight should've been a draw. Neither fighter went for it. You could've gave it to Val but no way you can say "Definitely" for either fighter...
@@mikeross111 Valentina DEFINITELY won it. It makes more sense to score it 49-46 for Valentina then it does to give 48-47 for Nunes
@@devillucifer6843 I don’t agree that she definitely won. She won, but it was not that clear. Amanda out-landed her and out wrestled/grappled her, but Valentina’s punches were more impactful and that’s why I think she won but it was very close. I’ve watched that fight MANY times and I don’t agree that it was a clear robbery, but Valentina did edge it out to me.
@@devillucifer6843 🤣 Just No... Some of you guys are just homers... That fight was a draw..
Sadly I think nunes wins in a third fight. She's just too big and nunes is better than she was in the second fight . Valentina will always be better but she's just too small
She is really well spoken and I completely agree with her about weight.
Her calling out Amanda was SAVAGE
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@@osio7528 so she can lose again? u fan boys wouldnt shutup up even if she lost 10 to amanda
@@laurbster2680 I think Amanda won the 2nd fight.....
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She's very proud and deflecting easy questions..
She has grown to be my favorite fighter in the UFC. Her skills are so well timed and wide.
Valentina won that second fight no question about it. She would win the 3rd too.
Round 1 N
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@MR IV nah, Valentina is the real true champ and everyone knows it. I mean for fucks sake I bet thug Rose is better than lame Amanda and could outclass her with slight ease and ultimately beat her. Bet you any money my guy
@MR IV you know Amanda BARELY can make 135, she is WAY too big to cut to 125, BUT Valentina was wrecking girls bigger than her before they made the 125 div. it was a good fight but i had Valentina winning that second fight. Even in their first fight, Amanda didn't land ANY big shots, and Val may have lost the first 2 round because Amanda held her down, Valentina was beating her ass in the third rnd. if it was Pride rules she would have won both fights...
you cant just claim she won, provide a point of view or some evidence? here are some facts. the fight was 5 rounds valentina never won a single fight stat other than ground strikes.. which she only landed because amanda engaged and landed 2 takedowns.. which valentina had 0. and on those ground strike (her only fight stat she won) she landed a grand total of 4 strikes in a 5 round fight.. wow impressive huh? amanda won strikes. significant strikes. takedowns. control. every fucking stat.
@@corrob you are a complete idiot lol. it doesnt matter if im 150 or 500 pounds.. if i fight at 135 and can cut and make weight and make it like a professional what is the issue? you whine that amanda uses her physical attributes to her advantage (to become the goat of female mma) hahahaha, so i guess jon jones isnt aloud to use his long fucking limbs
Amanda never hurt her once
They need to fight again
It’s the only fight to make
I literally have no idea how the statistics say she out landed Valentina in the second fight and why people don’t talk about it as much. She almost didn’t hit her at all & got tagged up every time she came in
@@GgCashh451 Amanda won the first fight
But I still can’t understand how they didn’t give Valentina the second fight
Amanda never even touched her
@@amossauceda9972 because Valentina is a bum who has to stay at flyweight and beat up other bums. Scared to fight Nunes the the real GOAT again.
@@kang6914 LOL, blind simps can't fathom that Nunes beat the shit out of their favourite good looking fighter 😂
@@abhidahiya4007 exactly lol these dudes are pathetic literally obsessing over her “omg she speaks 10 languages” like wtf does that have to do with fighting ? Smh
I think we found a match made in heaven for Lex.
LOL....that´s a good one
Bru. Lex would do the entire interview with his head down 💯
@@chris_jorge he reminds me of myself 😭
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Have you seen
“Elon Musk meets Post Malone”
It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂
when Valentina says “zhinkk” instead of think LOL 🤣😍 what a beauty
I really appreciate how Joe adapted his speech so that Val could follow. Great interview.
He has PTSD from the "come get some" moment
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@@briangriffith4574 more context please?
one of the spam bots copy pasted your comment and it got more likes than this one did.
what way , she does understand more then other
One of the few podcasts worth opening Spotify for
Was thinking the same thing. Valentina has long been my favorite female fighter and this interview is so compelling.
@@jungacrypto5581 dude, she's in the top 3 regardless of gender, that's how good she is
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Nope. Not worth it. Don’t cave. F that channel.
She won that second fight, don't care what anyone says. Rematch needed
Valentina is like a highly skilled female Diaz. I think in a fight to the death a Diaz always wins, and a Shevchenko always wins
@@pearldrums92 maybe in the sense of fighting to the death but I’m not even sure about that. However in terms of fighting style and skills they’re way different Diaz is very clumsy with good cardio shevchenko is so perfect and technical at striking and all aspects of mma it’s like watching art seeing her fight. Shevchenko has beaten Amanda in those last two fights as well she just was on the wrong side of the decision.
So it’s kind of like comparing a undefeated perfectionist to a clumsy fighter with cardio but a ton of heart.
Not too much similar.
@@Ss3gokus "She won but lost" clown talk
@@ThatCasualZach if you think every decision by an mma judge has been consistently perfect just shows your ignorance on the sport. Btw she was 20-30lb less then Nunez and did more then enough to win in the eyes of anyone whose seen the fight. Look through the comments and you’ll see how many people also say she won.
I hope they fight a third time because shevchenko knows not to rely on the judges against her anymore. Hopefully nunes agrees.
@@ThatCasualZach also you sound like the kind of guy who even though u got beat in the fight and the majority of anyone watching agrees you got beat.
If you got the judges decision you would hold on to it for dear life despite losing the actual fight in everyone’s eyes.
I’m glad judges slip up sometimes for ppl like you so you can have hope even while being a loser.
She’s such a class act.
Shevchenko is an intelligent fighter. Never seen a more thoughtful fighter in UFC, male or female.
Bruh have u heard of Israel adesanya/volkanvski/O’Malley
@@reuben34 haha man the fact you put omallay in there says it all. If he was smart he would stop kicking people until his feet give in
@@reuben34 no, are they also fighters?
Petr Yan is the most intelligent fighter in the UFC right now.
Happy we still get mma pods, I do miss the Joe, eddie, Bryan, Joey, tom, and bert fight companions n just other wild podcasts you did with them.
I agree. The ones he did with his crew were always the best ones
I think we all agree, we miss the old days😢
She’s so fucking beautiful man….
She's a woman
She's pretty. Beautiful, you can't tell.
She will beat ur ass man
Beautiful? Each their own I guess.
I'd still smash don't get wrong, but she's a 7 at most.
I am absolutely in love with this woman. She’s bad ass, beautiful, strong and intelligent. You can’t find a woman like her everywhere. A rare diamond.
You think she'd say the same about you? Or would she even notice you?
@@generalyellor8188 she’d probably knock him out in person lol
this is how russian girls usually are..she´s "normal"
Love how she says Amanda is big and heavy. It’s not her skill. Valentino wants her rematch.
I love the fact she is super measured, collected and respectful. You might think being a super cemented champion like her would take a toll on your humility, not her case though.
Valentina is so cerebral in and outside the octagon. Her mindset is just on another level.
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You're right my friend, reminds me of a female version of GSP.
She's smart and has natural talent. Combined with good coaching, she is championship material.
Valentina is amazing! She is absolutely ruthless too. She'll knock your lights out, and then dance around your unconscious body lol. She's strong, fast, athletic, smart, humble, respectful, personable... she's got it all, man.
That was the gayest thing I have ever heard a man say.
@@Rosemary-oe3zy comment section is full of simps.
@@PurpleBeam123 Like all tyrants you will fall before me
@@Rosemary-oe3zy hahahahahhahahhahaha
@@Rosemary-oe3zy what did you expect from someone named lad laddington
When she says winner it sounds like Weiner and I very much enjoy that.
😂
@@voyageeats1409 No one can stop teleporting here
She was right tho - Cyborg fought emotional and backfired on her by going wild and getting KO
Nunes will always have the size advantage over Bullet - doesn’t mean Nunes is more skilled tbh, she’s had more glaring weaknesses than Bullet
Except she has won more rounds than Valentina, Val lost a round to Maia. Amanda hasn’t lost a round since GDR who is much better than Maia, no disrespect to Maia.
@@kyrxgogo maia won the round because Val slipped during takedown that it, no skill from maia
@@harshvardhan283 it wasn’t a slip if Valentina couldn’t get out from under her if Maia has no skill, Valentina is not as good as Nunes
Has she had more weaknesses... Despite size Amanda Nunes fought everybody and she's beaten EVERYBODY alot of times way more brutal than valentina
@@kyrxgogo yeah also confirmed
"He's big"
"Everyone has power"
lmao! She's right tho
This woman is a baddy in every sense of the word😮💨
Shit she could even cover and move w you in a shootout 🤩
Her calling out Amanda was SAVAGE
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Nobody outside of shitty teeth England says that word.
I swear she’s so damn gorgeous
Imagine having to break up with her
She is a natural beauty.
Combination of her looks and her talent and how smart she is for me 🤷♂️ definitely agree.
In Russian standards she is very average to be honest. Very typical slavic appearance, like every second girl on the street.
I like her. Very intelligent approach to the game. I have never heard her have such a candid conversation before and I’m impressed with her.
Normally I wouldn't want to see a 3rd fight when one of the fighters is up 2-0 but anyone who watched both previous fights between Nunes vs Shevchenko knows that it should be 1-1 tied series and 3rd being the rubber match. As far as talent and overall skill in MMA, Shevchenko is by far the best in the women's division. Nunes's brut strength and size is the only reason both fights were even remotely close.
Wonder how the outcome would've been if both those fights were at Flyweight (125lbs) rather than Bantamweight?
She beat nunes that second fight
no way nunes makes 125
@@fratersol yes she did. She got robbed and it is irritating.
Agreed, it should be 1-1 tied, that was dog shit scoring.. unlike most people, I actually like Nunez.. but I see Valentina won 2nd, 4th and 5th with 3rd being 50/50.
If that fight happened at 125 Nunes might have literally died from the weight cut. They need to fight at 135, which Nunes might not be able to cut to anymore based on her last performance
Valentina fought 8 rounds against the hardest hitting woman in MMA history and didnt even mention her power. It just shows how elusive she is that she never got hit clean to feel her power.
She talked about her size numerous times….it’s the first thing she talked about.
Personally I think Valentina won the second fight 👊🏻
"and die from hunger" best line ever... 😝
Valentina just might be my favourite ufc fighter. Classy, total package!
Watching it back I genuinely believe she got the edge in the second fight. They definitely need to fight again but respect valentina for giving 2 close fights being smaller.
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Valentina's only 2 losses the past 10 years were from Nunes! And alot of people think Valentina should've won that 2nd one! So shit, Dana needs to set up part 3, thats about the only fight Nunes can take that will draw, right?
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Where did you manage to watch it back do u have a link?
1 close fight. First fight was no doubt a win for Nunes
The smartest shit Joe has heard all month!
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Valentina is special but let’s not act like Amanda isn’t the Goat of Women MMA
Facts. And this time Amanda will sleep her. Far too powerful
Lets not act like you not talking out of your azz.. Amanda lost the second fight and it wasn't even close.. you wanna see the proof? Watch the blow by blow analysis made by the weasle.. Amanda is as much a "goat" as Francis Nganou is a ballerina...
@Nightfall they're tied 1-1. The first fight Amanda won convincingly and the 2nd fight Val edged out by just a little but judges gave it to Amanda but when you compare their resumes, Amanda blows her out of the water.
She's smart. Gaining a bunch of weight is playing Amanda's perfected game. Can't outplay Amanda at her own style but she'll have to get super technical without that power.
Which is exactly what she did in their second fight, and she won it! I do not say this often at all but she did get robbed.
Funny is that she bulked up for their second fight
Dude Amanda evolve so much look what she did with the best female fighters in the world, she destroy them
If Amanda and Valentina fight each other now Amanda puts her to sleep
There is nothing Valentina offers that is dangerous for Amanda, striking she is not winning neither knocking her out, she is not taking her down, in the ground Amanda is a Black belt, i mean nothing!
If there's ever a 3rd fight, Amanda Nunes will win it, that chick is a beast.
Amanda is bigger than her. Will win again.
Bullet!!! One of the greatest of all time, future HOF athlete!
Her calling out Amanda was SAVAGE
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When I saw her for the first time before fighting Holmes, I knew she would win! Such massive strength and skill combined. She's the real deal! Love you, Valentina. Thanks Joe!
She’s teaching Joe things he thought he knew about.
This is black widow …in the flesh !
It’s about time Joe has Valentina on the podcast. She’s the best UFC fighter right now IMO. Not just women’s but across the board, the best.
Bro, you're sick.
Izzy and Usman are better pound for pound
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She lost to Amanda both times.
Thats his opinion. He can say that and with Amanda she got screwed on the second fight. Really its one to one
No.
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I love her philosophy on putting on weight. She basically shows one of the reasons why Deontay wilder lost to Tyson fury
He lost because he got hit with power shots that would kill most men. Gonna rip your arm off if you reach any further
Wilder did much better in the latest fight than he did in the second fight. I don't think the added weight had an effect at all, I think his strategy was much better. Besides weight doesn't matter nearly as much in heavyweight since nearly everyone can KO their opponents and being too big just slows them down
@Miki Miyazaki hence there should be a cut off. Tyson not really that good. He just a really big dude
@@craigman7262 He's no Lennox Lewis but he's undeniably skilled mate. Especially compared to Wilder. There's no limit on natural punching power either
@@craigman7262 Get off the crack bro saying Tyson isnt that good is insane he outboxes everyone he fights.... go back to watching NFL dude.
I'll tell you what, the ladies are ruling the MMA world right now. I find myself more excited for Valentina, Amanda, Holly, Thug Rose fights than the men.
I think she beat her in the second fight, would love to see them rematch no matter what. Such a high level match up! Love how Joe has so many different types of guests
I agree. Valentina won the second fight in my opinion. I was shocked the judges saw it different
Most mma experts think she beat nunes in the second fight. She's a female goat because she beat nunes
I just rewatched that fight. Amanda won with the takedown in the 5th in my opinion
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@@osio7528 that led to Valentina doing more damage from the bottom 😂😂😂
@@Breed_of_ONE1074 check the fight metrics.
Amanda threw less and landed more.
Valentina did not win the second fight.
People talk about her kicks but I genuinely think her defense and counter kicks are so impressive. They way she can check then counter is amazing to see
Dude, her check right hook is SAVAGE. Rewatch get fights, that's her go to counter punch
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@@osio7528 I did thankyou and agree her defence is just on another level, genuinely think she would give alot of male bantamweights a run for there money. I'd love to see her fight in person.
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She is the most complete martial artist in the UFC today. In more ways than just physical
She won the 2nd fight, and she’s gonna head kick Amanda into the underworld in the 3rd. Let’s go Valentina!
Sure buddy....
Lol shitttt, Valentinas only 2 loses the past 10 years were Nunes! And that 2nd fight could've gone either way according to everyone! So shit, Dana might as well set up Nunes vs Valentina 3, that's a fight everyone wanna see
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It was proven she won 2 fight thats why the man Amanda want nothing to do with here again.
She said “do you know something I don’t 👀” when she realized he kept asking about Amanda 😂
Can watch this woman talk about fighting all day
Valentina is a Genius! She's impressive on and off the field!
I think Amanda is not just heavy. Her boxing technique is incredible for a woman fighter. Shes got the timing and the power too. Valentina is too small and maybe she is certain on not gaining more weight but is not a rule that you become slower and loss endurance if you take enough time to get the gains. You could actually become as fast and durable but way more strong. Anyways is up to the feelings of each person.
What an absolute Queen 👑
I love to watch her fight, but I'd much rather watch her dance!
Did you know she can dance? SHE CAN DANCE!
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Amanda is a freak of nature. Her reach is out of this world and her punching power is gnarly.
The fact that Valentina Shevchenko fought a close fight (many people think she actually won that fight - the judge's decision was pretty controversial) against Amanda makes her one of the greats in my book.
A Man Duh
Amanda was just beginning to evolve at the time, look what she did after the Valentina saga, destroy the who is who of woman's MMA and won 2 belts.
If Valentina and Amanda fight now i see Amanda putting her to sleep!
@@marcos0055101 And yet nobody cares about watching her fights. Amazing that.
Elite skill level + high fight iq = GOAT
Valentina is GREAT not a GOAT
Gawd I love Valentina. She is such a humble and honest person.......and one of the toughest chicks I have ever seen fight. I have NEVER seen a woman throw kicks as fast and as precise as her either.
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Its actually such a blessing just to be able to watch her perform