But then again she beat three of the fighters that beat Amanda Nunes in a combined 55 seconds and then beat Miesha twice easily, the same fighter that put Holly to sleep. It's not a matter of the sport evolving, it's a matter of Ronda making bad decisions and styles making fight. She never had easy competition, just Bethe, maybe.
she beat meisha one time easily, 2nd time was a whole lot closer. 3rd time may have went far far worse for rousey. and styles make fights, that is what mma math does not work at all, ever!
brandonrussell79 Not really, hell one of the girls she defended her title against had only started getting into MMA 3 years prior and was a housewife. When that's part of the top tier talent, you know the pool isn't deep.
intx123 Connor is a good example of this, he talks shit, but he actually congratulates people if he looses, he has good sportsmanship and is a spectical
@intx123 its okay to be "enemies" to sell a fight but saying they're just fighters and nothing else is wrong... theres a thing called sportsmanship she lost fair and square couldnt even shake her hand or anything thats not what a champion does.... so many fighters hug or shake each others hand after a good fight thats respect something she never gave and thats why fans dont "respects" her...
Flash in the pan. Remember what Ralph Kramden said, "Be kind to the people you meet on the way up because they're the same people you meet on the way down..
to be fair the vast majority of mma careers can be called a flash in the pan it is not a sport that lends itself to longevity in part because people at this time were coming from other combat sports initially. and that flash made her life changing money so
“Bright Shining Star” B.S.! Her early fights were setups. There were high level women MMA practitioners when Rousey started and before she started. They were not UFC fighters though. The UFC women’s competition was new. She could have fought Cris Cyborg and didn’t Rousey just insulted Cyborg. Finally Joe was one of the idiots that was saying she could beat men and she could beat Floyd Mayweather of all people. Rousey bought onto it because there was news about Mayweather and domestic violence and look who she married. Women do not have to act like men to be successful! Many fans did not like Rousey because she was rude and crude it was not because they’re losers or any of the other nonsense that was stated. Joe helped to create a monster and people are glad to see that she is gone!!!
Give it a rest Joe. It wasn't her confidence that people had a problem with, it was her disrespectful manner & lack of sportsmanship. I cannot stand when people make excuses for the poor behavior of other people. Manny Pacquiao beat many of his opponents but not one time did he ever ridicule or disrespect any of his opponents. And he was a far superior fighter than Ronda in 100 life times, but he simply was a person of better character overall. Enough of this Ronda B.S., it's over. Let's move on!
I usually agree with Rogan on most anything MMA related, but this is one of the times I disagree, and I'll say YOU are 100% correct here. The main problem people have with her is that she is so arrogant, dillusional and disrespectful of anyone not petting her ego. My wife and I considered Rousey our #1 fav female fighter and in the top 5 fav fighters period. In the ultimate fighter that they coached, we were livid when Miesha Tate said Rousey was a fake and she wished the fans could see the "real Rhonda". ......then we saw the real Rhonda. And I understand that editing manipulates things. But there has to be something to manipulate. They didn't even need to manipulate things because she handed it to them on a silver platter. Since then she has done it over and over and over again to multiple different people in multiple situations. THAT IS the "real" Rhonda Rousey. An arrogant, dillusional, immature, bullheaded to the point of stupidity, out of control, disrespectful person. She has SO MUCH potential, but she trashes it with her irrational arrogance and dillusions.
Joe's missing the point here - it's not about some low-lifes waiting for others to fail to feel better about themselves. There's a lot of fighters that also lost their belts and still get a lot of love, as long as they were acting respectful and could take loss with dignity. People can appreciate it when someone displays those universal values in sport. Ronda didn't.
ok, but search for any content or go to any picture in social media and look for the comments... this is not a normal case! it's like an explosion of rage and only bat things in the comments, nothing about respect! I'm just saying, just go look for yourselfe and go back here to tel me if i'm wrong bro!
@@aerahtv0000 I don't think hate is the accurate word here. I mean, she's still totally attractive and she had a semi-decent run, but she suffered severely from McGregorism and paid the ultimate price for it.
Exactly, she beat mostly women who had no MMA or boxing background. Even Meisha realized this and got out. Meisha is amazing, but she is just a great athlete who wrestled a little in HS and is not going to compete with people who have 10 years of Muay Thai fighting experience. Rhonda brought the big money to women´s MMA, and that money brought the real professional fighters.
ya i get it, there was no decline in her skill, it was just a matter of time before the killers showed up. i thought even some of her opponents could have had a better chance if they didn't rush her. i was right about holly holms strategy but i was wrong and thought nunes would lose if she went forward.
But Rogan was blind to everything he just said about Ronda before she lost to Holm and Nunez. He said a fighter like Ronda comes along only once in a lifetime and she could beat most MMA men. Rogan was completely wrong, surprising for someone who lives and breathes the sport. Now he talks like he's the expert on Ronda, even though he was completely blind to Ronda being in a division at the time with very little talent and that she was a one-trick pony with the armbar thing.
MarkBarna1 you got to know Joe was paid well to over hype Rousey. that was part of his job with the MMA, to over hype the cash cows of Dana's. and that is exactly what she was. a over hyped cash cow that I think Dana protected for as long as he could. I don't think Dana thought Holm had any chance of beating Rousey. that is why he sanctioned the fight.
Ronda beat chicks who beat Amanda Nunes you non fact checking dumbass go Google their records she just lost it was her time just like Holly didn't even defend her title once same with Tate but Ronda did it 5 times kat zingano and Alexis Davis both wrecked Amanda and Ronda beatem with ease how'd that happen a fluke, bad weather an accident no styles make fights and that's it
Had Cat not charged like she did, I think she would have beaten her. But she did, and she didn't lol. Cat had the striking to beat Ronda and I was so pissed when she did that.
@@reinaldocaraballo4657 Lol, you do know that MMA math is bullshit right? It doesn't matter who beat Nunes, Rousey didn't. Since you want to talk about who beat who, how about Nunes beat Cyborg? The woman Rousey changed divisions to avoid fighting because she knew she would get destroyed.
Mikeynuts21 That exactly right.. It unfortunate that society is so shallow. But it's true. Ronda Rousy is a beautiful woman plus.... She held on to that title..
Passive Intolerance wow! I am way surprised that I seen one decent comment! you know a lot of people don't understand that her father killed himself she might have missed out on a lot of insight on how to be you know missing person like that out of your life changes a person I would imagine I would know I know my mom's passed away but was suicide it's got to be hard to deal with will never ever know what goes on in her mind I just think people need to realize by them being nasty right back to her there no better than what she was it's the same exact thing understanding is the key to unlocking the mysteries of people's mind and what they truly seek and how they truly are it's Pleasant to see someone with compassion something this world is lacking eventually along with understanding not making excuses for Rhonda. the only hope she can learn from this and it isn't like she lost to two Chumps she lost to two champs. Rhonda has nothing to be ashamed of she did well she just left a little bit of the Starlight gets to her that's all
People, myself included, didn't enjoy seeing her lose because they have no confidence, or because they are assholes, Joe. We like seeing her lose because she was such an asshole to all of her competitors. She acted like nobody deserved to be in the ring with her, which was bullshit. Everyone that steps in that ring deserves a certain amount of respect, because they have put in the hours of training and had the balls to compete at that level. She thought she was unbeatable, and got proven wrong, and we enjoyed watching. If she would have shown just a smidgen of grace and humility then it probably would have been different. We just want to see a bit of sportsmanship from our champions. Is that too much to ask for?
For me i just got tired of her shoved down my throat. I was originally a huge fan but luterally the ufc turned into the ronda rousey show and shes having craxy shit like being called an amazing boxer whrn her boxings total.shit
Same for me and then she started loving herself way too much. She absolutely underrated Holm and gave her no respect and she got an ass whipping for it. She got what she deserved and with Nunes, She looked clueless and completely out of her league. I agree with Joe that the people talking shit to her on Twitter are idiots but she brought some of that on herself.
I think it's also fair to say she fell in love with being a striker, even when she really was fairly novice to the discipline. She scored a couple quick stoppages with striking and allowed it to become her first mode of attack instead of the judo/jiu jitsu that got her to where she was. Is some of that arrogance? Yeah, probably. But she moved the sport, particularly for women and for that she deserves credit.
That was her downfall. She would have had a good chance against Holly Holmes if she did what Meisha did and avoid doing the toe to toe strike game and try to take Holly to the ground every chance she got. Holly’s ground game were on par with Ronda’s strike game, meaning it wasn’t that great. But Ronda surrounded herself with trainers who told her she was a great boxer
@@youtubecommenter37 Exactly, I said the same thing. Holly beat Rhonda. But Miesha beat Holly. At the same time Miesha could not beat Rhonda. Some of that is her trainers giving her the worst fight strategy. You can't tell me Rhonda couldn't have beat Holly with the same fight strategy Miesha had.
I think its the effect that the ring walk has on the opponents. When Rousey walked into the ring (before her losses) her opponents were visibly afraid knowing how many women had quickly lost before them. They were preparing to lose before the fight started and this is where the similarity with Tyson came in. Fight or flight kicks in when your oppenent has finished their last 6 fight in the first round.
pfft she was annoying me all along. i also bet on her losing to holly holm and was completely disinterested by the time of the nunes fight, I only came back because she was apparently in the news recently to find out what happened. seriously. ronda rousey this ronda rousey that. you don't want to fight ronda rousey. ronda rousey can take on 16 men at once when it's not a gangbang, unlike the rest of the ufc! ronda rousey kicked off at a cinema. ronda rousey strong woman. ronda rousey sniffs her own asshole. fucking lousey. why did i place bet on holm? saw ronda walking to ring (like 6 year old boy trying to act tough), saw ronda's wins (mostly armbars and tap outs) - figured up against someone with a bit of skill would give her a better run for the money than the odds suggested.
Come on Joe. How in the fuck can you compare Ronda to Chuck the mother fucking iceman Liddell? He is a beast and even though he wasn't the most well rounded mma fighter he accomplished way more as a ufc fighter (in a very tough and loaded weight class) than she ever will.
exactly he was champ of the premiere 205 division. had excellent kickboxing and was a division 1 wrestler. he was way more well rounded than ronda fucking rousey who punches like she has down syndrome.
I think the reason people were glad to see her lose at 196 was she was talking about how she could beat up men at her own weight and higher. Joe Rogan said she could do well in men's 135. Also, Rousey was emotionally unstable and charmless on the Ultimate Fighter. I don't like to see all successful fighters lose, just the jerkwads like Lesnar and Rousey.
EXACTLY! Come on Joe... There is a HUGE difference between being confident and the way Rousy, Mayweather, and McGregor carry themselves... Being critical of their cocky, negative, condescending, rude, shitty, childish behavior/attitude doesn't make someone a POS loser...
Ronda Rousey said she could beat everyone with one arm (i.e, with one arm tied behind her back). She's disgustingly disrespectful. If cannot beat women, she can beat half the men at bantamweight
Ronda got intoxicated by all the hype that was building all around her. The movie deals, the bikini cover shoots-good on her for taking advantage of that. But she should have realized that the sport was evolving and fighters were getting better and every contender was studying every second of every tape of all her fights and that they were coming for her hard
LMFAO look at Joe trying to come off as he had nothing to do with Ronda Rousey's Hype going the route of delusional over rational. Ronda became obnoxious it wasn't even funny she transformed into a bully and everyone knows bully's are not confident people. Stop it Joe Stop it ! lol
Ironfist514baka ppl forget Joe was saying she could beat Floyd lol she just wasn’t fighting ppl with real skill sets just like Conor, once he gets in there with somebody who doesn’t fall for those mind games i.e. Diaz they get exposed for their lack of a complete skill set.
A bully nah, ppl loved to fuck with her so she talked shot when they pushed her, like when some chick beat some girl from her camp badly, Ronda said she'll fuck her up and she did
@@emmy4537 where did the person say it wasnt good? all he said was the fact that she was never the best in the world at judo just like she was never the best female in mma because she ducked cyborg for freaking years
Joe had and still has a hype issue. He's incredibly informed on the sport but he hypes certain fighters beyond their skill. Ronda was definitely his worse example so it's hard for me to listen to him backtrack and list all these holes
The same thing happened to the Gracies. They dominated the scene until people figured them out. They are one dimensional which is why they are off the radar. Rhonda is one dimensional as well.
in2food funny how anytime anyone questions bjj they bring up royce dominating early mma but lets be honest early ufc had alot of posers as cannon fodder and all the good fighters had alot of flaws thatd get them murdered by todays standards. First it was the bjj, then it was dominated by the wrestlers, then the strikers, now its basically who can win on points.
@@MadonnasSpareVagina Yeah. Years of grappling dominance when MMA barely had any rules versus a grappler who tried to deflect a knee kick with his head. It makes sense. All those fighters back in the day should just have knee kicked everyone into oblivion. Easy peasy.
Rhonda could’ve definitely came back. It was most likely her ego, that once she lost this fight (which she came into horribly) she was shot. She wasn’t the same. Then she got Nunes, one of the GOATS and she lost horribly again. After that was time to work on her standup and get a team that actually told her what she needed to hear instead of stroking her ego. But she didn’t. She left.
No i completely disagree with Ronda coming back! Reason being is in rondas head she was.already the best the belt was given to her. She believes her own hype. In her mind being the "best" (as all were telling her) there's no room for improvement! She tried coming back as a puncher and ylu saw what happened! Yes she did have terrible coach but ronda is just not a fighter! Her ego was broken in to million leaves that there's no way it can be repaid. She made a fool of her self in the Ellen show which made it worst for her. In many peoples eyes she's just a joke and Ronda can't stand it.
As soon as she got famous, I was telling people "all it's going to take is one girl that trained like her from childhood and she won't be so famous anymore". In the top of her career, she didn't have much competition. Her mom was like a pageant mom, but with wrestling, martial arts and othe physical activities. Regardless of whether or not rondha is fine with it now, she didn't have a choice. Her life wasn't her own and she was living out her mom's legacy. However, this is what gave her a performative edge. It's not that she's the greatest of all time or ever was. It's just the fact women like her are rare and she's at the bottom of that list. There are other fighters surfacing that make her look like the people she demolished. The only thing I don't respect about her is as soon as she wasn't the champ anymore, she gave up. She didn't live up to her own trash talk and buckled after defeat. It shows a spoiled brat.
Conor never got the backlash Ronda got after loosing. It's maybe to do with how each fighter took that lost. Conor never hid from the media. Was in the post fight presser, accepted his mistakes & moved foward. Same with Cruz. Remember how much shit he talked to No Dad before the fight? And what a classy act he was even after losing by getting dominated & humiliated by No Dad? Rousey was a prime example of how not to behave after taking a loss
Hyro Proto im not a conor fan but he didnt talk about killing himself and shit like she did. Her ego just couldnt take it. Some statements were absurd. Beating male fighters etc. Some people forced shit like that into her head i believe.
A fine line between confidence and utterly arrogance. It showed afterwards, still years after in her interviews. She could acknowledge the others were better at that moment when she lost.
I mean, she also has a funky accent. 🤪😁(I know, I know, MY accent would be funky in their countries etc etc.) They both are humble but confident. Both are very technical and intelligent fighters. Both are very efficient fighters. Both are deceptively strong but not physically imposing...
I think Joe underplayed how detrimental Rousey's coach Edmond Tarverdyan, was to her career. He's a boxing coach, and convinced her that she was a world-class striker. Edmond's game plan for Rousey's fight against Holms and Nunez centered around striking instead of grappling. Rousey's ego didn't allow her to fact-check this.
I’d say Ronda Rousey was more of a Royce Gracie during the early days of the UFC. As more skilled fighters came their specialized styles were countered with better well-rounded styles.
I don't think Ronda "declined"..She fought 2 of the greatest female strikers in the ufc and lost! Holly was a championship kickboxer and Amanda is a beast! Rondas problem was her coach and management for setting up those fights.. especially the Nunes fight (First fight back from getting ko'd by Holly)...And her inability to accept defeat and learn from it. I think Ronda could have continued her career and won again with the right coaching if she got her head back into it mentally. Truth is she never got over the Holly Holm loss!
What i remember a few years ago was a stoned Joe stating the fact that Ronda could beat men in her weight division . How times change & Joe is straight in this interview . See the difference .
No, but it's the reason you would shit on someone. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you need to stalk their social media and flame them. A normal person would just have nothing to do with someone they don't like, but people will use whatever excuse they can to be dicks and boost their ego, so they seek out shit to flame.
MrSpiderman1321 unaccomplished and young? I think he just shit on the UFC fan base that keeps this whole thing moving. But more accomplished fighters in her sport called her out as well, sooooooo
Tito Jackson Stewart you're the most prototypical casual MMA fan, yeah she lost twice back to back it's part of the sport if you had a clue, I'm not even a Rousey fan and don't even care to see her as the champ but to completely disregard what she has done is nothing but naive and just goes to show your mindset and the actual true fans know exactly how I feel I don't give a flying fuck how many bullshit "likes" or "replies" I get just realize that when someone loses you don't just all of a sudden take away everything they have accomplished in their lives before that
stfu idiot I am not a casual dumbass I never liked rousey and seen that she was a one dimensional fighter that was given easy fuckin title fights man get bent and fuck ronda rousey and ur fucking opinion fanboy
Whatever Rousey was never that good. She was facing inferior talent and when real good fighters showed up she folded faster than superman on laundry day.
A brilliant analysis of why champions come and go ... I agree she needed to see a guru like Duke Roufus to reinvent herself ... Great champions are always looking for ways to get better, Champions like Mayweather or Federer have constantly improved on their already impressive repertoire. Hence why they stay at the top
Rhonda rousey got trashed on twitter because she talked alot of crap and talked bad about everyone, and when you shit on everyone and then you cant back it up, people were so happy they couldnt contain their excitement they had to voice it. I did not but i was very happy when she lost. Holly is an amazing person and deserved the win
Edmond Tarverdyan is to blame here, Ronda won every single fight against strikers when she utilized Judo techniques and finished with an armbar. Edmond tried to turn Ronda into a striker and had no concept of Judo so discouraged Ronda from utilizing her strongest techniques and made her focus on what he perceived to be his strongest and were her weakest.
No, not "just" She had ALL the symptoms of bi-polar, being a textbook case- i.e. spastic and unstoppable with delusions of grandeur while younger, as well as being violent and abusive. Then as she got older, she crashed and burned, had depression and suicidal behavior etc. Her technique was never that good, she was just manic in her ham-fisted style.
I agree with Joe 200% Ronda was confident and yes, she had an ego and was arrogant. But, rightfully so. But, people being assholes and attacking her are really pieces of shit. I love Ronda, always will. Win or lose.
Wow!! Joe Rogan has some blind loyalty to Ronda Rousey. For a guy who calls in straight down the middle, he still needs to fess up and say it like it is. Love him or hate him but Chael Sonnen had the best analysis on Ronda Rousey. I know thats a bold statement coming from a guy like Chael Sonnen but I've always said Chael was a better analyzer than he was a fighter. Ronda Rousey was in a sport that was new and still is new compared to other established sports. Therefore, you couldn't compare her to other great athletes yet from other established sports. I believe the biggest mistake the UFC and tools like Dana White and Joe Rogan and other premature celebrators made were the actual mileage of the sport of UFC and its stars and the mileage of other sports and their stars. Ronda Rousey if you were to compare let's say to NBA was a George Miken or even toRoyce Gracie. She became the face of the Women's Bantamweight division which was created and probably no one expeced it to succeed and most importantly no worthy challenger was around and was able to beat girls that weren't on her competition level despite their background. Same with Royce Gracie and other Gracie members they try to prove Gracie Ju JItsu was the Ultimate but people caught on and they became a distant memory. So the Women's Division of MMA is still in it's infant stages although Ronda caused a spark but she's not the Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant or Lebron James Or Steph Curry, that remains to be seen and guys like Joe Rogan and Dana White whom represent the UFC should call it as it is and let it grow naturally although it's tempting to try and bank on their current stars but don't forget your current mileage.
Really??.. People being ruthless to her.. How about her being ruthless to cris cyborg.. saying she's got male genitals and Dana white not letting cyborg anywhere near her.. Its called karma!
Come on Joe... There is a HUGE difference between being confident and the way Rousy, Mayweather, and McGregor carry themselves... Being critical of their cocky, negative, condescending, rude, shitty, childish behavior/attitude doesn't make someone a POS loser...
Valentina in my opinion has the potential to be like Mighty Mouse. She's a decorated Muay Tai champion, has a 58-2-1 kickboxing record, a 2-0 boxing record, and a black belt in Judo who successfully submitted one of the best grapplers in her division. Well rounded only getting better.
brandon noone ---Lol I agree ! Look at the 'Top 10' rankings in the UFC Women's Bantamweight Division ... its essentially the SAME NAMES from 3 years ago ( Shevchenko is the new kid in town ) . How can Rogan say that the Bantamweight competition is WAY BETTER now ????? ITS THE SAME FIGHTERS !
Angelo Z. The fighters have become improved. Not just names changing. A good example is Middleweight. Anderson ran that shit for years. A few guys dropped out here and there but Bisping was around forever, so were Hendo, Vitor, Lyoto, and Shogun. Wiedman, Romero, and Rockhold were just kinda touching the surface. Anderson's leg turns to pudding and all of a sudden Weidman is beating guys Anderson would have beat, Rockhold beats him, and Bisping beats him. Now all these vets are getting fucked up by new fighters and somehow Bisping becomes champ by knocking out a young dude.
Douglas Paulson -Forgive me ... I was challenging Joe Rogans assertion ... In the video above , Joe Rogan mentioned the WOMENS BANTAMWEIGHT DIVISION as being VASTLY improved from even 2 years ago , when he was calling Ronda Rousey the greatest ever . I do not think you read my statement correctly .... which seems to be a common theme with you TH-camrs :)
$$$ attracts fighters. More fighters = more competition. More competition = better fighters. Martial arts being a career that tend to appeal to the average typical male psyche means more fighters attracted. So what you say is right. Men's mma on average is better. Less fighters = Less competition = Weaker champions. I do however have to say i do believe Shevchenko's division is definitely more skilled and talented than the men's heavy weight division and the Fly weight division.
Love Ronda she's awesome talk all you want about fighting but she was the Billy Graham of the early revival days of women's mma , it made people that never watched UFC take note . There were women fighting before but she got up on the soapbox and called out to people to come inside the tent !
Honestly, people forget just how good Rousey was in her prime. No other women has more title defenses than her and when she was in her prime dominated everyone. The problem with Rousey was she lacked the mental fortitude and drive to continue after she lost. Anyone who says Rousey is trash is just ignorant. She isn’t the best female fighter, I think that goes to Nunes, Shevchenko, or JJ in her prime. But if she did have the mental fortitude to continue and get better and was still in the UFC, I think she would still be a dangerous fighter.
So now it's the coaches fault? Baloney,the WWE is hyping the crap out of her/ They cannot afford for her to lose so she will not there for a long time. And when she does it will be because of a stupid cheat.
Telling to box with Holm was bad advice. Telling her to box with Nunes with suicidal. I will never understand why they decided to start hyping her as a world class striker. It only took two fights to expose every massive hole. (heh)
I think Joe is being dishonest here. Ronda was protected by the UFC, who purposely gave her matches with women who were nowhere near to being decent strikers, simply to hype her up. She believed her own publicity - a huge mistake, and got dominated before getting stopped by Holly Holm, and Ronda's narcissism and cognitive dissonance kicked into overdrive. She then got annihilated by Amanda Nunes, and she was conclusively shown up as a hype job and massively overrated. If she was so good, why persistently refuse to fight Cris Cyborg?!
Rogan is right on the backlash after Rousey lost to Holms. But there were quiet a few poeple who disliked Rousey since the Ultimate Fighter with Tate, where she behaved like a traumaticed, insecure little kid, bullying people around. Some people saw right through here fasade and when the wall she built up with her ego shattered, all that was left was a sad little girl these people didn't criticise her, they admired Holmes for her performance. The weak people, with the same attitude as Rousey supporting her behavior, actualy were the ones attacking her afterwards.
Literally everyone in the UFC warned Rousey about Holm but she didn't listen. It was the beginning of the end for Rousey. You can tell her confidence has been a all time low lately.
Rhonda, like many athletes, forget what got them to the top and then a very subtle change in approach to training happens. Rhonda tried to fight their fight, forgetting she was a judo olympian.
You can’t deny what Rhonda accomplished in her life. UFC champion, Olympian winner and an actor. She did more than most people who are commenting here.
Ronda loss because she didn't respect her weaknesses. She was never a striker. Stupidity is why she loss to Holm. Ronda gassed herself with her aggressive and amateurish boxing. She and her corner literally beat her. She was exhausted halfway through the first round. Holm simply cleaned up the mess they had already made.
I never saw Rhonda shoot a double...never saw her go for a single. Never saw her throw a kick before that shitty teap vs Nunes. Never saw her throw a superman, an elbow or overhead...She needed better training and her couch just filled her head with bullshit.
Ronda was destined to be overtaken in MMA because she didnt evolve her MMA style that relied heavily on her judo background. She needed to advance her striking and especially her kicking abilities to at least be able to stand and defend against boxers and kick boxers. She didnt do that and paid the price. It's an evolving sport so evolve or lose.
John Scardina he's an old geezer- probably not,but it's still nice to see a guy his age being in interested mma. He lived through the golden age of boxing, if he's interested in mma. I'm sure he's got some descent boxing knowledge
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The sport didn't pass Ronda by, the sport got a deeper talent pool.
Ronda capitalized on a lack of competition while she could, plain and simple.
But then again she beat three of the fighters that beat Amanda Nunes in a combined 55 seconds and then beat Miesha twice easily, the same fighter that put Holly to sleep.
It's not a matter of the sport evolving, it's a matter of Ronda making bad decisions and styles making fight. She never had easy competition, just Bethe, maybe.
she beat meisha one time easily, 2nd time was a whole lot closer. 3rd time may have went far far worse for rousey. and styles make fights, that is what mma math does not work at all, ever!
coltsrule5150 That's right 👍🏻
@colt the same competition is there, it just took somebody to fight her like she wasn't fought before. She was NEVER the hype people made heard to be.
brandonrussell79 Not really, hell one of the girls she defended her title against had only started getting into MMA 3 years prior and was a housewife. When that's part of the top tier talent, you know the pool isn't deep.
Joe sounds quite a bit different here than he did a couple years ago when he was saying Ronda could take out half the mens division...
i know it's pathetic. one thing you never hear him say is "i was wrong". and he usually is.
It's an overstatement but, judo should not be underestimated.
Rogaines worse than a politician. Flavor of the week is Rogaines favorite, till next week. Clown.
gotta sell fights
Yeah I couldn't believe that shit when ther UFC was trying to say she could beat Mayweather
Nah, Joe it's not a matter of hating... She was too arrogant, all that crap at the weigh-in, refusing to touch gloves.
intx123 Connor is a good example of this, he talks shit, but he actually congratulates people if he looses, he has good sportsmanship and is a spectical
@intx123 its okay to be "enemies" to sell a fight but saying they're just fighters and nothing else is wrong... theres a thing called sportsmanship she lost fair and square couldnt even shake her hand or anything thats not what a champion does.... so many fighters hug or shake each others hand after a good fight thats respect something she never gave and thats why fans dont "respects" her...
@intx123 mike tyson did hella coke hahaha that foo a savage bit a mf ear off prob all yakked out hahaha
Anyone who takes weigh in drama seriously needs to watch the sport, but never speak about it.
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No Conor is a prick too
Flash in the pan. Remember what Ralph Kramden said, "Be kind to the people you meet on the way up because they're the same people you meet on the way down..
to be fair the vast majority of mma careers can be called a flash in the pan it is not a sport that lends itself to longevity in part because people at this time were coming from other combat sports initially. and that flash made her life changing money so
Penthouse to the shithouse
I loved that.
@@Ashbash-kf5xd it was fucking great
“Bright Shining Star” B.S.!
Her early fights were setups. There were high level women MMA practitioners when Rousey started and before she started. They were not UFC fighters though. The UFC women’s competition was new. She could have fought Cris Cyborg and didn’t Rousey just insulted Cyborg. Finally Joe was one of the idiots that was saying she could beat men and she could beat Floyd Mayweather of all people. Rousey bought onto it because there was news about Mayweather and domestic violence and look who she married.
Women do not have to act like men to be successful! Many fans did not like Rousey because she was rude and crude it was not because they’re losers or any of the other nonsense that was stated. Joe helped to create a monster and people are glad to see that she is gone!!!
@@apkdarter961 Basically, she bought into her own hype and publicity.
& now conor...getting arrested for assault
Give it a rest Joe. It wasn't her confidence that people had a problem with, it was her disrespectful manner & lack of sportsmanship. I cannot stand when people make excuses for the poor behavior of other people. Manny Pacquiao beat many of his opponents but not one time did he ever ridicule or disrespect any of his opponents. And he was a far superior fighter than Ronda in 100 life times, but he simply was a person of better character overall. Enough of this Ronda B.S., it's over. Let's move on!
Pacquiao wasn't her role model. Ali was.
Nicely put
fighter most be like khabib humble
So right.. Joe always find a way to explain away dushhbag behavior
I usually agree with Rogan on most anything MMA related, but this is one of the times I disagree, and I'll say YOU are 100% correct here.
The main problem people have with her is that she is so arrogant, dillusional and disrespectful of anyone not petting her ego.
My wife and I considered Rousey our #1 fav female fighter and in the top 5 fav fighters period.
In the ultimate fighter that they coached, we were livid when Miesha Tate said Rousey was a fake and she wished the fans could see the "real Rhonda".
......then we saw the real Rhonda.
And I understand that editing manipulates things. But there has to be something to manipulate. They didn't even need to manipulate things because she handed it to them on a silver platter. Since then she has done it over and over and over again to multiple different people in multiple situations. THAT IS the "real" Rhonda Rousey. An arrogant, dillusional, immature, bullheaded to the point of stupidity, out of control, disrespectful person. She has SO MUCH potential, but she trashes it with her irrational arrogance and dillusions.
Joe's missing the point here - it's not about some low-lifes waiting for others to fail to feel better about themselves. There's a lot of fighters that also lost their belts and still get a lot of love, as long as they were acting respectful and could take loss with dignity. People can appreciate it when someone displays those universal values in sport. Ronda didn't.
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ok, but search for any content or go to any picture in social media and look for the comments... this is not a normal case! it's like an explosion of rage and only bat things in the comments, nothing about respect! I'm just saying, just go look for yourselfe and go back here to tel me if i'm wrong bro!
Took him an awfully long time to say that she was a emotionally fragile one-trick pony.
The perfect comment for the situation.
Mike Burns bahahahaha. BEST.
Mike Burns bahahahaha. BEST.
why do you hate her, i don't get it? She's awesome fighter, even if she failed.
@@aerahtv0000 I don't think hate is the accurate word here. I mean, she's still totally attractive and she had a semi-decent run, but she suffered severely from McGregorism and paid the ultimate price for it.
there was no decline lol she was overtaken by better people, pretty obvious and simple
Thank You, She was fighting minnows and then some sharks finally got in her division. She didn't last long after that.
She beat McMahon BEFORE she got good like she is now, she beat Miesha but honestly could've lost those, then got fucked up by better fighters
Exactly, she beat mostly women who had no MMA or boxing background. Even Meisha realized this and got out. Meisha is amazing, but she is just a great athlete who wrestled a little in HS and is not going to compete with people who have 10 years of Muay Thai fighting experience. Rhonda brought the big money to women´s MMA, and that money brought the real professional fighters.
ya i get it, there was no decline in her skill, it was just a matter of time before the killers showed up. i thought even some of her opponents could have had a better chance if they didn't rush her. i was right about holly holms strategy but i was wrong and thought nunes would lose if she went forward.
nope
"I was a big follower of her." "What was the young girls name again?"
"Once in a lifetime doesn't apply to Ronda Rousey, it's once ever... in human history." Joe Rogan 2016
haha
Joe is so delusional
AIM 661: Joe had his nose so far up Ronda's ass, that he must be the bastard child of Pinnochio and Hillary Clinton.
I mean to be fair it's true, about everyone but still
Too much DMT for this Joe manlet Rogan.
When Joe talks about the science of MMA he goes into a trance.
I’ve mentioned that before already bub.!
Ray Jameson but u don’t have the top comment
gavintoussaint he’s not worthy
With dont forget a giant bonner
@@rayjameson937 no u didnt he did
But Rogan was blind to everything he just said about Ronda before she lost to Holm and Nunez. He said a fighter like Ronda comes along only once in a lifetime and she could beat most MMA men. Rogan was completely wrong, surprising for someone who lives and breathes the sport. Now he talks like he's the expert on Ronda, even though he was completely blind to Ronda being in a division at the time with very little talent and that she was a one-trick pony with the armbar thing.
MarkBarna1 you got to know Joe was paid well to over hype Rousey. that was part of his job with the MMA, to over hype the cash cows of Dana's. and that is exactly what she was. a over hyped cash cow that I think Dana protected for as long as he could. I don't think Dana thought Holm had any chance of beating Rousey. that is why he sanctioned the fight.
Couldn't be said any better, 100%!!!
You don't know shit about MMA, Mark.
Not once in a lifetime, once ever in human history.
He has more information after seeing her lose, which gives him the ability to change his mind or alter his opinion. It’s called thinking.
she could beat Mayweather -Joe Rogan
She probably could lol
No male has beat him yet
@philip ocharo in n a MMA fight she might judo throw his ass and ambar him lol no I don't really think that it was a joke
@maikro soft he's a boxer not an mma fighter
@Aashish Shrestha Exactly!
Ronda was unstoppable back when she was hyped up and fighting against women they found at the local cardio kickboxing class.
Ronda beat chicks who beat Amanda Nunes you non fact checking dumbass go Google their records she just lost it was her time just like Holly didn't even defend her title once same with Tate but Ronda did it 5 times kat zingano and Alexis Davis both wrecked Amanda and Ronda beatem with ease how'd that happen a fluke, bad weather an accident no styles make fights and that's it
Hey, it’s one of the losers Joe was talkin about
Had Cat not charged like she did, I think she would have beaten her. But she did, and she didn't lol. Cat had the striking to beat Ronda and I was so pissed when she did that.
@@reinaldocaraballo4657 Lol, you do know that MMA math is bullshit right? It doesn't matter who beat Nunes, Rousey didn't. Since you want to talk about who beat who, how about Nunes beat Cyborg? The woman Rousey changed divisions to avoid fighting because she knew she would get destroyed.
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There is a difference between being confident and being arogant and disrespectful to your opponents.
That's why Rhonda was disliked by many.
@Passive Intolerance nope, it's Rhonda
Why do people have to defend Ronda like she's a toddler 😂
Derek D because she's hott
Mikeynuts21 That exactly right.. It unfortunate that society is so shallow. But it's true. Ronda Rousy is a beautiful woman plus.... She held on to that title..
Passive Intolerance wow! I am way surprised that I seen one decent comment! you know a lot of people don't understand that her father killed himself she might have missed out on a lot of insight on how to be you know missing person like that out of your life changes a person I would imagine I would know I know my mom's passed away but was suicide it's got to be hard to deal with will never ever know what goes on in her mind I just think people need to realize by them being nasty right back to her there no better than what she was it's the same exact thing understanding is the key to unlocking the mysteries of people's mind and what they truly seek and how they truly are it's Pleasant to see someone with compassion something this world is lacking eventually along with understanding not making excuses for Rhonda. the only hope she can learn from this and it isn't like she lost to two Chumps she lost to two champs. Rhonda has nothing to be ashamed of she did well she just left a little bit of the Starlight gets to her that's all
because they built her up like one
White fragility
People, myself included, didn't enjoy seeing her lose because they have no confidence, or because they are assholes, Joe. We like seeing her lose because she was such an asshole to all of her competitors. She acted like nobody deserved to be in the ring with her, which was bullshit. Everyone that steps in that ring deserves a certain amount of respect, because they have put in the hours of training and had the balls to compete at that level. She thought she was unbeatable, and got proven wrong, and we enjoyed watching. If she would have shown just a smidgen of grace and humility then it probably would have been different. We just want to see a bit of sportsmanship from our champions. Is that too much to ask for?
that's true Rabbit. couldn't of said it better
intx123 the ufc would’ve crumbled if it didn’t turn into a sport
That how every other male fighter acts. Why does she have to be humble just because she’s female?
For me i just got tired of her shoved down my throat. I was originally a huge fan but luterally the ufc turned into the ronda rousey show and shes having craxy shit like being called an amazing boxer whrn her boxings total.shit
Same for me and then she started loving herself way too much. She absolutely underrated Holm and gave her no respect and she got an ass whipping for it. She got what she deserved and with Nunes, She looked clueless and completely out of her league. I agree with Joe that the people talking shit to her on Twitter are idiots but she brought some of that on herself.
She may have THE worst “Boxing” skills ever, as a pro fighter...stiff legged, no movement at the waist and zero head or shoulder movements.
That's a complete exaggeration. Bad? Yes. Worst ever? Dude, seriously?
Mike there’s not a lot of fighters who have worse standup than Ronda.
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@@XManium dude that is fucking hilarious
I disagree her head was moving when Nunes was punching it😛
I think it's also fair to say she fell in love with being a striker, even when she really was fairly novice to the discipline. She scored a couple quick stoppages with striking and allowed it to become her first mode of attack instead of the judo/jiu jitsu that got her to where she was. Is some of that arrogance? Yeah, probably. But she moved the sport, particularly for women and for that she deserves credit.
That was her downfall. She would have had a good chance against Holly Holmes if she did what Meisha did and avoid doing the toe to toe strike game and try to take Holly to the ground every chance she got. Holly’s ground game were on par with Ronda’s strike game, meaning it wasn’t that great. But Ronda surrounded herself with trainers who told her she was a great boxer
Her idiot coach convinced her she had hands, then she got lit up, lol
@@youtubecommenter37 Exactly, I said the same thing. Holly beat Rhonda. But Miesha beat Holly. At the same time Miesha could not beat Rhonda. Some of that is her trainers giving her the worst fight strategy. You can't tell me Rhonda couldn't have beat Holly with the same fight strategy Miesha had.
I remember they compared Ronda's walk to the octagon like the walk from Mike Tyson to the ring. No comparison at all... in my opinion.
I think its the effect that the ring walk has on the opponents. When Rousey walked into the ring (before her losses) her opponents were visibly afraid knowing how many women had quickly lost before them. They were preparing to lose before the fight started and this is where the similarity with Tyson came in. Fight or flight kicks in when your oppenent has finished their last 6 fight in the first round.
barbelljoe lmfao no
When Ronda was winning, everyone loved her. Now she is gone, everyone against her
Funny how things changed
pfft she was annoying me all along. i also bet on her losing to holly holm and was completely disinterested by the time of the nunes fight, I only came back because she was apparently in the news recently to find out what happened.
seriously. ronda rousey this ronda rousey that. you don't want to fight ronda rousey. ronda rousey can take on 16 men at once when it's not a gangbang, unlike the rest of the ufc!
ronda rousey kicked off at a cinema. ronda rousey strong woman. ronda rousey sniffs her own asshole.
fucking lousey.
why did i place bet on holm? saw ronda walking to ring (like 6 year old boy trying to act tough), saw ronda's wins (mostly armbars and tap outs) - figured up against someone with a bit of skill would give her a better run for the money than the odds suggested.
Come on Joe. How in the fuck can you compare Ronda to Chuck the mother fucking iceman Liddell? He is a beast and even though he wasn't the most well rounded mma fighter he accomplished way more as a ufc fighter (in a very tough and loaded weight class) than she ever will.
exactly he was champ of the premiere 205 division. had excellent kickboxing and was a division 1 wrestler. he was way more well rounded than ronda fucking rousey who punches like she has down syndrome.
Pretty sure joe is trying to rationalize his Ronda nuthugging
"Ronda Rousey can beat half the men bantamweight in the UFC"- Joe Rogan
Ronda Rousey could beat anyone in the world, in a no-rules fight." -Joe Rogan
You gotta love when Joe interviews him self.
Lol
I think the reason people were glad to see her lose at 196 was she was talking about how she could beat up men at her own weight and higher. Joe Rogan said she could do well in men's 135. Also, Rousey was emotionally unstable and charmless on the Ultimate Fighter. I don't like to see all successful fighters lose, just the jerkwads like Lesnar and Rousey.
Not just that...remember when she said she could beat all the women with one hand tied behind her back
EXACTLY! Come on Joe... There is a HUGE difference between being confident and the way Rousy, Mayweather, and McGregor carry themselves... Being critical of their cocky, negative, condescending, rude, shitty, childish behavior/attitude doesn't make someone a POS loser...
Ronda Rousey said she could beat everyone with one arm (i.e, with one arm tied behind her back). She's disgustingly disrespectful. If cannot beat women, she can beat half the men at bantamweight
Ronda got intoxicated by all the hype that was building all around her. The movie deals, the bikini cover shoots-good on her for taking advantage of that. But she should have realized that the sport was evolving and fighters were getting better and every contender was studying every second of every tape of all her fights and that they were coming for her hard
LMFAO look at Joe trying to come off as he had nothing to do with Ronda Rousey's Hype going the route of delusional over rational.
Ronda became obnoxious it wasn't even funny she transformed into a bully and everyone knows bully's are not confident people. Stop it Joe Stop it ! lol
Ironfist514baka ppl forget Joe was saying she could beat Floyd lol she just wasn’t fighting ppl with real skill sets just like Conor, once he gets in there with somebody who doesn’t fall for those mind games i.e. Diaz they get exposed for their lack of a complete skill set.
Free Market TV Ronda wouldn't beat Floyd in anything you fucking jabroni.
Ironfist514baka lmao yea remember he said she would ko men lol
A bully nah, ppl loved to fuck with her so she talked shot when they pushed her, like when some chick beat some girl from her camp badly, Ronda said she'll fuck her up and she did
it is idiot , ask Connor and Ronda ..
she wasnt even the best in her judo, she got bronze at the Olympics. Kurt Angle on the other hand won gold with A BROKEN FREAKIN NECK~!
Well, I get what you're saying, but getting a bronze ain't nothing to scoff at. Still Olympic, right?
@@Profile__1 exactly
sys434 on the olympic level? that’s pretty damn good u stupid casual.
@@emmy4537 interesting you have to insult someone to try to make a point! Broavo 👏
@@emmy4537 where did the person say it wasnt good? all he said was the fact that she was never the best in the world at judo just like she was never the best female in mma because she ducked cyborg for freaking years
Joe had and still has a hype issue. He's incredibly informed on the sport but he hypes certain fighters beyond their skill. Ronda was definitely his worse example so it's hard for me to listen to him backtrack and list all these holes
The same thing happened to the Gracies. They dominated the scene until people figured them out. They are one dimensional which is why they are off the radar. Rhonda is one dimensional as well.
in2food funny how anytime anyone questions bjj they bring up royce dominating early mma but lets be honest early ufc had alot of posers as cannon fodder and all the good fighters had alot of flaws thatd get them murdered by todays standards.
First it was the bjj, then it was dominated by the wrestlers, then the strikers, now its basically who can win on points.
@@pablorocha9817 Pretty sure Askren was undefeated with grappling until Masvidal smartened him up.
@@MadonnasSpareVagina Yeah. Years of grappling dominance when MMA barely had any rules versus a grappler who tried to deflect a knee kick with his head.
It makes sense. All those fighters back in the day should just have knee kicked everyone into oblivion. Easy peasy.
@@pablorocha9817 Just because Askren got caught by surprise in one fight doesn't mean you can discount what he did up until then.
yah just your typical one dimensional fighter with wins by submission, gnp and stand up KO's....
Remember when Joe Rogan said Ronda was a world class kickboxer in his podcast...
Rhonda could’ve definitely came back. It was most likely her ego, that once she lost this fight (which she came into horribly) she was shot. She wasn’t the same. Then she got Nunes, one of the GOATS and she lost horribly again. After that was time to work on her standup and get a team that actually told her what she needed to hear instead of stroking her ego. But she didn’t. She left.
Couldnt have said it better.you see it all the time in Combat sports.Deontay wilder aswell.Yes Men prohibit you from progression.
No i completely disagree with Ronda coming back! Reason being is in rondas head she was.already the best the belt was given to her. She believes her own hype. In her mind being the "best" (as all were telling her) there's no room for improvement! She tried coming back as a puncher and ylu saw what happened! Yes she did have terrible coach but ronda is just not a fighter! Her ego was broken in to million leaves that there's no way it can be repaid. She made a fool of her self in the Ellen show which made it worst for her. In many peoples eyes she's just a joke and Ronda can't stand it.
As soon as she got famous, I was telling people "all it's going to take is one girl that trained like her from childhood and she won't be so famous anymore". In the top of her career, she didn't have much competition. Her mom was like a pageant mom, but with wrestling, martial arts and othe physical activities. Regardless of whether or not rondha is fine with it now, she didn't have a choice. Her life wasn't her own and she was living out her mom's legacy. However, this is what gave her a performative edge. It's not that she's the greatest of all time or ever was. It's just the fact women like her are rare and she's at the bottom of that list. There are other fighters surfacing that make her look like the people she demolished. The only thing I don't respect about her is as soon as she wasn't the champ anymore, she gave up. She didn't live up to her own trash talk and buckled after defeat. It shows a spoiled brat.
"She's been dominant like no one else in woman's MMA history, in the UFC at least". Maybe because there was no woman's MMA in the UFC before?
Her declined was a result of bad coaching. RR's MMA game never evolved. He striking and ground game never got better.
Ronda was so confident she didn’t even shake her opponent’s hand to she respect.
Pena's eye's glazed over, as he sat there bored out of his mind listening to Rogan's, "Ronda Rousey worship session".
Confidence and arrogance are opposites.
Conor never got the backlash Ronda got after loosing. It's maybe to do with how each fighter took that lost. Conor never hid from the media. Was in the post fight presser, accepted his mistakes & moved foward. Same with Cruz. Remember how much shit he talked to No Dad before the fight? And what a classy act he was even after losing by getting dominated & humiliated by No Dad? Rousey was a prime example of how not to behave after taking a loss
Hyro Proto im not a conor fan but he didnt talk about killing himself and shit like she did. Her ego just couldnt take it. Some statements were absurd. Beating male fighters etc. Some people forced shit like that into her head i believe.
Did Connor loose? Who was the opponent that made Connor loose? Lol.
Hiroyuki Heisosumi Nate Diaz stopped him by RNC
Conor came back and won, Rousey couldn't do the same
A fine line between confidence and utterly arrogance. It showed afterwards, still years after in her interviews. She could acknowledge the others were better at that moment when she lost.
Lol, Joe sounds like he's in damage control after hyping Rhonda up so hard.
We now have a Demetrius Johnson in women's mma in Valentina Shevchenko
I was gonna go with "the GSP of women's MMA" but yeah.
I mean, she also has a funky accent. 🤪😁(I know, I know, MY accent would be funky in their countries etc etc.)
They both are humble but confident.
Both are very technical and intelligent fighters. Both are very efficient fighters.
Both are deceptively strong but not physically imposing...
Being confident is not a license to be an asshole. Look a Valentina or Khabib, confident and humble as fu**
I agree. But they lack charisma. I like people Ali and Naseem hamed who are slightly arrogant but deep down you know they are good guys
I think Joe underplayed how detrimental Rousey's coach Edmond Tarverdyan, was to her career. He's a boxing coach, and convinced her that she was a world-class striker. Edmond's game plan for Rousey's fight against Holms and Nunez centered around striking instead of grappling. Rousey's ego didn't allow her to fact-check this.
I’d say Ronda Rousey was more of a Royce Gracie during the early days of the UFC. As more skilled fighters came their specialized styles were countered with better well-rounded styles.
I remember an interview Joe had with art bell where he compared Rouseys fight in Brazil with Ali vs Frazier..... wow really
I don't think Ronda "declined"..She fought 2 of the greatest female strikers in the ufc and lost! Holly was a championship kickboxer and Amanda is a beast! Rondas problem was her coach and management for setting up those fights.. especially the Nunes fight (First fight back from getting ko'd by Holly)...And her inability to accept defeat and learn from it. I think Ronda could have continued her career and won again with the right coaching if she got her head back into it mentally. Truth is she never got over the Holly Holm loss!
What i remember a few years ago was a stoned Joe stating the fact that Ronda could beat men in her weight division . How times change & Joe is straight in this interview . See the difference .
Anybody remembered when she challenged floyd🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Music Styck Arnis Kiyta 😂
Music Styck Arnis Kiyta and joe rogan said she had a chance against him
@@titomish5914 😳🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’d pay to see Floyd beat her ass for 12 rounds
That was a joke of the century when she said that. That was the day I knew for sure... She drank the Kool-Aid.
either unaccomplished or young, well that makes up for 90% of the population but i doubt thats the reason for not liking rousey
Joe just likes to point out that he is not those things.
No, but it's the reason you would shit on someone. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you need to stalk their social media and flame them. A normal person would just have nothing to do with someone they don't like, but people will use whatever excuse they can to be dicks and boost their ego, so they seek out shit to flame.
There are a lot of unaccomplished young people who don't like Rousey. Flaming her makes them feel better about themselves.
Stormie33 real talk great insight
MrSpiderman1321 unaccomplished and young? I think he just shit on the UFC fan base that keeps this whole thing moving. But more accomplished fighters in her sport called her out as well, sooooooo
lmfao the same joe rogan who called her a once in a lifetime fighter and he was honored to call her fights lmfaoooo
Well, when the available information changes, opinions change. Nothing wrong with that..
Tito Jackson Stewart you're the most prototypical casual MMA fan, yeah she lost twice back to back it's part of the sport if you had a clue, I'm not even a Rousey fan and don't even care to see her as the champ but to completely disregard what she has done is nothing but naive and just goes to show your mindset and the actual true fans know exactly how I feel I don't give a flying fuck how many bullshit "likes" or "replies" I get just realize that when someone loses you don't just all of a sudden take away everything they have accomplished in their lives before that
stfu idiot I am not a casual dumbass I never liked rousey and seen that she was a one dimensional fighter that was given easy fuckin title fights man get bent and fuck ronda rousey and ur fucking opinion fanboy
I'm definitely believing that Tito is 6'3 and 225 pounds, because no one on the internet would ever lie to make themselves look like a tough guy.
People can't change their viewpoints with new information? Get a clue.
Joe was a 100% Ronda jock rider till Holley kicked her in the face. Now he's like "well....well......"
Whatever Rousey was never that good. She was facing inferior talent and when real good fighters showed up she folded faster than superman on laundry day.
ManMonkey600 dude Miesha Tate wasn’t inferior. She’s an iconic fighter in her own right and took rousey to the limit. She’s an exception
and you have accomplished what exactly?
The old man fall asleep when you were talking
A brilliant analysis of why champions come and go ... I agree she needed to see a guru like Duke Roufus to reinvent herself ... Great champions are always looking for ways to get better, Champions like Mayweather or Federer have constantly improved on their already impressive repertoire. Hence why they stay at the top
Rhonda rousey got trashed on twitter because she talked alot of crap and talked bad about everyone, and when you shit on everyone and then you cant back it up, people were so happy they couldnt contain their excitement they had to voice it. I did not but i was very happy when she lost. Holly is an amazing person and deserved the win
Edmond Tarverdyan is to blame here, Ronda won every single fight against strikers when she utilized Judo techniques and finished with an armbar. Edmond tried to turn Ronda into a striker and had no concept of Judo so discouraged Ronda from utilizing her strongest techniques and made her focus on what he perceived to be his strongest and were her weakest.
No secret, Rousey was just an extremely unllikeable person
No, not "just" She had ALL the symptoms of bi-polar, being a textbook case- i.e. spastic and unstoppable with delusions of grandeur while younger, as well as being violent and abusive.
Then as she got older, she crashed and burned, had depression and suicidal behavior etc.
Her technique was never that good, she was just manic in her ham-fisted style.
"Ronda Rousey is not a once in a lifetime athlete, she's a once ever in human history". - Joe Rogan
Such a stupid comment by a supposed "expert"
Goodness gracious 🙄
I agree with Joe 200% Ronda was confident and yes, she had an ego and was arrogant. But, rightfully so. But, people being assholes and attacking her are really pieces of shit. I love Ronda, always will. Win or lose.
After all these years Joe Rogan is still by far the most exciting person to listen to talk about MMA.
Wow!! Joe Rogan has some blind loyalty to Ronda Rousey. For a guy who calls in straight down the middle, he still needs to fess up and say it like it is. Love him or hate him but Chael Sonnen had the best analysis on Ronda Rousey. I know thats a bold statement coming from a guy like Chael Sonnen but I've always said Chael was a better analyzer than he was a fighter. Ronda Rousey was in a sport that was new and still is new compared to other established sports. Therefore, you couldn't compare her to other great athletes yet from other established sports. I believe the biggest mistake the UFC and tools like Dana White and Joe Rogan and other premature celebrators made were the actual mileage of the sport of UFC and its stars and the mileage of other sports and their stars. Ronda Rousey if you were to compare let's say to NBA was a George Miken or even toRoyce Gracie. She became the face of the Women's Bantamweight division which was created and probably no one expeced it to succeed and most importantly no worthy challenger was around and was able to beat girls that weren't on her competition level despite their background. Same with Royce Gracie and other Gracie members they try to prove Gracie Ju JItsu was the Ultimate but people caught on and they became a distant memory. So the Women's Division of MMA is still in it's infant stages although Ronda caused a spark but she's not the Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant or Lebron James Or Steph Curry, that remains to be seen and guys like Joe Rogan and Dana White whom represent the UFC should call it as it is and let it grow naturally although it's tempting to try and bank on their current stars but don't forget your current mileage.
Worse thing Rhonda did for her popularity was be herself on the UFC show against Meisha.
"The one that went from the penthouse to the shithouse" that was a hilarious way to sum up someones entire career/fight journey lmfao
You can be confident without being disrespectful
I said nunes was the one 5 years ago.when joe rogan was making kissing jokes about women in the ufc.
Really??.. People being ruthless to her.. How about her being ruthless to cris cyborg.. saying she's got male genitals and Dana white not letting cyborg anywhere near her.. Its called karma!
Come on Joe... There is a HUGE difference between being confident and the way Rousy, Mayweather, and McGregor carry themselves... Being critical of their cocky, negative, condescending, rude, shitty, childish behavior/attitude doesn't make someone a POS loser...
Ronda deserves respect....she trained really hard and was a trendsetter for female martial artists..mad respect
Valentina in my opinion has the potential to be like Mighty Mouse. She's a decorated Muay Tai champion, has a 58-2-1 kickboxing record, a 2-0 boxing record, and a black belt in Judo who successfully submitted one of the best grapplers in her division. Well rounded only getting better.
Womens mma has caught up? Lol fuck no its better than it was and its getting better but its no where near mens mma
brandon noone ---Lol I agree !
Look at the 'Top 10' rankings in the UFC Women's Bantamweight Division ... its essentially the SAME NAMES from 3 years ago ( Shevchenko is the new kid in town ) .
How can Rogan say that the Bantamweight competition is WAY BETTER now ????? ITS THE SAME FIGHTERS !
Angelo Z. The fighters have become improved. Not just names changing. A good example is Middleweight. Anderson ran that shit for years. A few guys dropped out here and there but Bisping was around forever, so were Hendo, Vitor, Lyoto, and Shogun. Wiedman, Romero, and Rockhold were just kinda touching the surface. Anderson's leg turns to pudding and all of a sudden Weidman is beating guys Anderson would have beat, Rockhold beats him, and Bisping beats him. Now all these vets are getting fucked up by new fighters and somehow Bisping becomes champ by knocking out a young dude.
Douglas Paulson -Forgive me ... I was challenging Joe Rogans assertion ...
In the video above , Joe Rogan mentioned the WOMENS BANTAMWEIGHT DIVISION as being VASTLY improved from even 2 years ago , when he was calling Ronda Rousey the greatest ever .
I do not think you read my statement correctly .... which seems to be a common theme with you TH-camrs :)
$$$ attracts fighters. More fighters = more competition. More competition = better fighters. Martial arts being a career that tend to appeal to the average typical male psyche means more fighters attracted. So what you say is right. Men's mma on average is better.
Less fighters = Less competition = Weaker champions.
I do however have to say i do believe Shevchenko's division is definitely more skilled and talented than the men's heavy weight division and the Fly weight division.
Love Ronda she's awesome talk all you want about fighting but she was the Billy Graham of the early revival days of women's mma , it made people that never watched UFC take note . There were women fighting before but she got up on the soapbox and called out to people to come inside the tent !
Ronda can destroy half the heavyweights. She will knock out Hunt.
where ronda rousey fine ass at -black beast
She never learned take-downs. You can't just walk straight in forever.
Honestly, people forget just how good Rousey was in her prime. No other women has more title defenses than her and when she was in her prime dominated everyone. The problem with Rousey was she lacked the mental fortitude and drive to continue after she lost. Anyone who says Rousey is trash is just ignorant. She isn’t the best female fighter, I think that goes to Nunes, Shevchenko, or JJ in her prime. But if she did have the mental fortitude to continue and get better and was still in the UFC, I think she would still be a dangerous fighter.
Ronda is always my favorite, no matter what phase of her career she’s in. I love her, and I’ll always be one to defend her.
Ronda's coach was real bad
So now it's the coaches fault? Baloney,the WWE is hyping the crap out of her/ They cannot afford for her to lose so she will not there for a long time. And when she does it will be because of a stupid cheat.
Telling to box with Holm was bad advice.
Telling her to box with Nunes with suicidal.
I will never understand why they decided to start hyping her as a world class striker. It only took two fights to expose every massive hole. (heh)
Everything Bethe Correia said about her was right.
I like how the clip immediately starts with rogan sniffing
I think Joe is being dishonest here. Ronda was protected by the UFC, who purposely gave her matches with women who were nowhere near to being decent strikers, simply to hype her up. She believed her own publicity - a huge mistake, and got dominated before getting stopped by Holly Holm, and Ronda's narcissism and cognitive dissonance kicked into overdrive. She then got annihilated by Amanda Nunes, and she was conclusively shown up as a hype job and massively overrated.
If she was so good, why persistently refuse to fight Cris Cyborg?!
Rousey is a great athlete, but too arrogant as a winner and a horrible cry baby when lost
Bottom line: Loud-mouth Rousey bought too much into her own hype and quickly got a dose of reality.
Rogan is right on the backlash after Rousey lost to Holms. But there were quiet a few poeple who disliked Rousey since the Ultimate Fighter with Tate, where she behaved like a traumaticed, insecure little kid, bullying people around. Some people saw right through here fasade and when the wall she built up with her ego shattered, all that was left was a sad little girl these people didn't criticise her, they admired Holmes for her performance. The weak people, with the same attitude as Rousey supporting her behavior, actualy were the ones attacking her afterwards.
Literally everyone in the UFC warned Rousey about Holm but she didn't listen. It was the beginning of the end for Rousey. You can tell her confidence has been a all time low lately.
I lost all respect for Rhoda after the Nunez fight .. no interview and quit ufc for wrestling? lol ... she was never a true champion.
He loooves to say "high level"
Ronday rousy just tasted her own medicines for being rude and consistently showing unsportsmanship to her opponents.
Rhonda, like many athletes, forget what got them to the top and then a very subtle change in approach to training happens. Rhonda tried to fight their fight, forgetting she was a judo olympian.
That guy doesn't even know her name but says he was a big follower of her haha
Ronda Rousey can only beat 1/4 of all men now in MMA -- Joe Rogan
HAHAHAHAHAA!!! He went off without taking a breath for four minutes, HAHAHAHAAA!!!
You can’t deny what Rhonda accomplished in her life. UFC champion, Olympian winner and an actor. She did more than most people who are commenting here.
Ronda's face also blocked all the punches of real strikers very well.
I dont see Joe talking about how she (Ronda) would give a good fight for Mayweather ... that be the ganja talking
pff everyone is an expert, The same people taking a dump on Rhonda were all over her on the way up
Ronda loss because she didn't respect her weaknesses. She was never a striker. Stupidity is why she loss to Holm. Ronda gassed herself with her aggressive and amateurish boxing. She and her corner literally beat her. She was exhausted halfway through the first round. Holm simply cleaned up the mess they had already made.
I never saw Rhonda shoot a double...never saw her go for a single. Never saw her throw a kick before that shitty teap vs Nunes. Never saw her throw a superman, an elbow or overhead...She needed better training and her couch just filled her head with bullshit.
she's the Tito of women's Mma
HEAD MOVEMENT! HEAD MOVEMENT! RONDA NOOOOOOO
She had a good career, a pioneer even.
She still a UFC godess to me.
Ronda was destined to be overtaken in MMA because she didnt evolve her MMA style that relied heavily on her judo background. She needed to advance her striking and especially her kicking abilities to at least be able to stand and defend against boxers and kick boxers. She didnt do that and paid the price. It's an evolving sport so evolve or lose.
She should have worked on her blocking too so that she could stop being used as a punching bag.
Is it just me or did it seem like Mr. Peña has no working knowledge of MMA?
John Scardina he's an old geezer- probably not,but it's still nice to see a guy his age being in interested mma. He lived through the golden age of boxing, if he's interested in mma. I'm sure he's got some descent boxing knowledge