Finally Joe has been exposed! He lied and lied and lied to protect cheaters and now it’s biting him in his own ass. What a joy it is to see the liar binge in his own crap after this much time 💩
He talks about super understandable shit. He just uses biochem verbiage for whatever fkn reason. Normally ppl that speak that way use it as a means to try and validate the little they know. I think any educated person with a background in the sciences sees through the BS. Not saying he’s wrong, but he overcomplicates easy topics to understand and imo he doesn’t really know much more than a gym goer who’s taken a VERY BASIC biochem class
@@rlbnll123 have you ever taken an intro biochem class? You do not learn anywhere near the level of detail for hormone synthesis or metabolism at an undergrad level unless you are taking a class specifically on endocrinology which most biochemistry majors do not.
@@Aerochalklate Greg is far from a hub for truth. The guy is as dishonest as the rest. Gaslights his audience, sells useless supplements, tries to censor criticism, plugs an over priced cook book which can be condensed to "switch to low calorie alternatives, replace baking ingredients with vita fibre, sweetener and protein powder", recommended test as a supplement, has a history of cheating in sports and got caught smuggling steroids.
Having MPMD lay out precisely how Jone's test results suggest he was doping is amazing. Finally Joe can understand.. it's so cringy everytime Rogan defends Jon about this
I don't think rogan was really defending him, he was asking for clarification how it could because based on his knowledge it shouldn't be possible, and MPMD helped provide more information on how it was possible.
And he wants to be called Goat 🤣🤣🤣🤣 never, non of the fights are legitimate, look at his last fight when he ease down on the steroids...Ryes beaten him, Jon Jones should not even be in the top 50 of best ufc fighters
Rogan wanted Derek to say something that was gonna save Jones LMAO! Jon Jones juiced, EVERYTHING points to that, from his brother, to his test results, to his lifestyle, EVERYTHING! points to him taken PEDs. It blows my mind, how many people fish so hard to say Jones didn't take anything.
It's very funny to me that JJ will hit a woman, crash into a pregnant ladies car, drink and drive, shoot a gun randomly into the air for no apparent reason and just basically be a shitty person but when it comes to steroids everyone's like nooooooo Jon would never stoop so low, he would never do such a thing 🙄
What would blow people's minds is that almost every professional athlete is on something Lance Armstrong for fuck sakes took drugs and passed Olympic drug testing... you don't think people playing football and fighting aren't taking things at the very least for recovery
It's not denial dude, relax, lol. He's just trying to understand. He knows that high testosterone good and low is bad. He's not an expert like Derek. Also he doesn't want to believe that Jones was cheating all these years and wants to give him every chance at a benefit of the doubt.
@@AllProEra It's that but it's not just that. He's trying to wrap his head around it possibly being true. Because he doesn't want to believe it. Rogan Truly believed that Jones was the baddest man on earth and kind of had him on a pedestal, this was apparent for many years. Nothing wrong with it. We're all fans of someone or something.
What an absolute great show. I'm happy Derek made it there so full of knowledge. It's fascinating listening to especially working for a TRT clinic myself.
Usually when somebody takes a shot at Jones on social media, he'll take a shot right back at them. Derek started taking shots, and Jones didn't say a word and immediately blocked him on all social media. That's almost the biggest piece of evidence right there.
What is evidence without proof? JJ still one of the best of all time. Still a millionaire. Still would beat up your favorite fighter and still !!! Keep drinking the hatorade
Joe “What could be another explanation?” Derek “uh, castration.” Crazy how in denial Joe is about this. Jon Jones cheated. Its nearly indisputable lmao.
I think it was purposely to show how big of a deal that low number actually was and how it wasnt normal. Not defending Jones but explaining the audience what's the big deal about it.
@@gage8391he is well studied, incredibly well studied. There’s a reason that nobody in the industry, no professionals, nobody that knows anything really is coming after him. His specialization is more focused than what any degree will usually get you, as well as the fact that from everything I’ve seen he never stops studying. I’m a bio major and I’ve had to study to keep up with the terminology he uses in his vids, and I have never found a single time where he was wrong. He is by far the most educated TH-camr in that specific area. It’s a relatively niche area but within it he is more knowledgeable than anyone else on the platform
Joe: "For people who don't know what we're talking about, let's try and explain this simpler" Derek : starts using even bigger words and more elaborate examples referencing scientific studies.
If you cant explain shit in simpler terms, you probably dont know shit about what youre talking. Basically his speculations are all theoretical, he hasnt been behind these athletes and their doping methods he doesnt know shit .
@kaaamos an animal's ignorance of a concept isn't proof of that concept being false, and anyone believing it does is not only ignorant but stupid. Animals are ignorant to the differences between carbs, fats and proteins, they're ignorant to all the micronutrients. I guess macro and micronutrients have no effect on the animals because they don't know about them, right?
Jones has been failing tests for years now. Anyone who doubts his rampant gear use is in denial. Joe did seem fanboyish, but in his defense he does like to ask questions and play devils advocate. Both things can be true at the same time in this case. Btw, arguing that other fighters use PEDs doesnt at all justify jones doing it. The reason is for every 5 fighters that dope, theres 1 that doesnt who gets the unfair shake of it. And for that reason jones should be viewed as a cheating coward until he tests clean. And even then people will never really trust his results due to cycling. Hes effectively ruined any legacy he couldve had, at least in the eyes of anyone who lives in reality.
I like that Joe was willing to sit and listen to this younger man explain to him a subject that commonly comes up on these podcasts. He gave him his attention and didn’t cut him off, and asked good questions at the right times. I think Joe learned a lot from Derek on this podcast!
@@Coldestaevadoit His last few interviews have been very good maybe he took a look at what a douchebag he has been in the last year and got back to what made him so successful in the first place
@@Coldestaevadoit sometimes. When Dr Rhonda Patrick was talking about Covid he flat out refused to let her completely answer a question without butting in to ask an another 3 questions or go on a tangent. Making it very difficult for her to get to her point. He really couldn't just shut his mouth for a minute.
The clomid letrozole is easy to explain, he was on a heavier cycle then used those to restore his HPTA so he could test “clean” for his fight. But he didn’t expect to be tested when he was still using them
Superphysiological amounts of pride seeing this. So amazing to see how far you’ve come Derek, Been rooting for you, still rooting for you. Keep it up, love you man.
Holy Fkn shit the crossover finally happened, what an achievement. So fkn dope💪🏻💪🏻MPMD deserves this. Gonna listen to it on Spotify, haven’t listen to a Jre podcast in months, but will do with this one
I’m so glad Derek got on here. People are extremely ignorant when it comes to PED usage and although mpmd has educated a lot of people, JRE platform is just so much bigger.
It’s great…but…ultimately it’s on level 1 of my care factor in life. I care more about how my neighbor is doing or if my local business can make it through recent times vs. whether athletes are using PEDs.
Yea a UFC guy that’s essentially been there since the beginning, totally has never educated people on these things …with the biggest media communication system ever …. 🤔
He's extremely ignorant himself 😂 He doesn't understand why the one drug pulsed but the other didn't. He clearly didn't take enough to pulse, but this guy acts like it's some baffling got ya. In reality it just shows his confirmation bias. I'd sure like to see Jeff or a PhD hand him his ass on this ridiculousness.
Walk into any locker room from The HS level and up.... you will find PEDs. So how can anyone believe that with MILLIONS of dollars on the line, athletes would be "clean"?????? Who believes that???
"Hard training does suppress it"... "What could be another possible explanation"... It felt to me almost as if Joe was trying to get Derek to find a reason other than what Derek was giving him. Hats off to Derek here for pushing the point home. "You think it's possible..."... Fucking common Joe, is this one of your comedy bits? You know mate. You literally just named "the Clear".
@@MonachusRex wayyyyy too much.. it’s pretty apparent now even if you don’t know much about PEDs you can still look at the man’s history behaviour and observe that he would not have any hesitation in taking some drugs to improve or cheats.. remember what he said on the podcast “I used to get wasted before fights so that if I lost I could say to myself it was coz of that” a snippet into his mentality
With his high intellect, add a few f bombs, and you've got a recipe for success. Yea, and most of the time, I catch myself rhinking... why do I even care about this?
Literally me I don't know a single thing about the drugs/ products he dissects but I've just loved his style of delivering the knowledge since I found his Chanel during quarantine
ive been studying PEDs/nutrition/fitness/supps since 2012, i worked in gyms and nutrition stores for a few years, and i did bodybuilding for several years and im the guy everyone from my area will come to for advice on those subjects or to buy "stuff".. ive been searching the internet for the best source of info since 2012 including actually going to endocrinologists (endos surprisingly dont know shit despite going to school for it) and Derek is without a doubt the most knowledgeable person ive ever seen and many times hes said stuff that has went completely over my head but everything he talks about is 100% truth but he also never acts like or claims to know everything and has the humility to admit when he doesnt know something or could be wrong... which is amazing considering every endo ive gone to think theyre the god of knowledge and you cant tell them shit...
Derek is proof positive if you just follow your passion and dreams, believe in yourself and persist you will do things and get the attention of people you would have never thought possible. Also a meathead can most definitely analyze, dissect, understand and convey the information in a way that is informative, entertaining and genuine. Fucking ay Derek, You made it.
Same. Not sure how many subscribers he had when I found him, but I'm pretty sure it was around early 2019, maybe late 2018. He didn't have many videos out then I think. He definitely didn't crank them out as fast as he does now, but he was still making videos like crazy back then. Way more than many other youtubers. Derek is the reason I will stay natty.
he knows hes not stupid truth is they all dope. They microdose and know how to beat tests using masking agents as well as undetectable compounds. The drug makers are always aheads of the drug testers. If they are at the top level of sports hood chance they have doped at some point especially fighting the body needs those substances simply to keep up with the work load and abuse to body.
@@lovelyhurlin6494 Jon Jones isn't a cash cow though. That's why he can't get paid what he's demanding. Also Jon Jones is a boring fighter. He hasn't had a TKO win since Gustafson. That was like 3 years ago. He also was gifted a decision win against Reyes.
He’s a paradox which is why so many people love his content. One moment he’s talking about supraphysiological gains caused by exogenous compounds, then he drops a f#ck dude, ease up on the trembaloney sandwiches, rally dude? Absolute legend. 🇨🇦
@@salmano1809 There's also bots now that are verified and have hundreds of thousands of subscribers, so it looks like a real person. It's crazy how advanced the bots are getting now, these e-girl ones are pretty basic in comparison.
Explaining to Joe that Jon Jones used steroids is like explaining to a toddler that Santa isn't real. No matter how many facts you give them they still want to believe.
Does Jon actually hold that record? Lmaooooo You're right about him accusing everyone of steroids but always covering for Jon. This is why Dana White was always his friend.
Yea it seems like Joe doesn't want to come to terms that jones is and has always been a steroid cheat, if you look at his last 4 performances and compare those to his his first 4 title defenses it's as clear as it can get
Derek absolutely shut Joe up. And i'm really happy to see that happening to Joe although i'm his fan and mostly side with him. Joe tried everything he possibly could to protect Jon like he always does.
Not really. Joe just ask normal question without raising his voice and stayed civil If anything joe proved how objective he is bc if he was biased he would've argued or not allow this podcast
He handled himself great on the pod, some poeple you can tell are tense but not Derek, his boulders gave him the confidence he needed too keep from freaking out
@@satyro8186 well compared to the other youtuber that was recently on, Derek was a way better speaker to convey his ideas and more of a genuine person. These podcasts were my first introduction to both of their channels so it's and easy pick which was better.
It's very clear this man has done years and years worth of research so he can just give FACTS not opinions. I'm a big Jon Jones fan but I have to be honest and say he's cheated the game for years and mostly got away with it. It's a cat and mouse game catching ped users out with new stuff
Lol. As if Joe doesn't know about roids and pulsing. Look at him from fear factor to now. It ain't all natural. He has a team of doctors. He has stated on many pods..
@@MiggsMultiple his TH-cam is his career and this is technically a Collab so yeah its good for his career, plus he also has his own supplement company to and its all exposure for him.
@@dboff Aren't there 1000's that do that? I don't obsess over the community but I still know of Athlean X, Hodge Twins,Elliot Hulse ,Bar Stars etc... Saw this guy once doing a video that seemed to be stating the obvious about celebrity drug use is all.
@@MiggsMultiple He co-owns a successful supplement brand and has a million followers on TH-cam. He gets paid to learn and talk about something he loves. That's as successful as successful gets.
Joe has finally been exposed…by himself. The man that lied for Jon Jones , worked against George St Pierre , has finally started to expose himself. The universe works in mysterious ways.
I laughed so damned hard when Joe Rogan asked, "can you think of any other reason he had such low testosterone" annd Derek was like 'i dunno...castration."
@@madaxwayne pretty sure paddy the baddy said on his podcast with meatball molly he had he had an awful weight cut and his levels where that of a little girl.Was also close to kidney but that’s not relevant.
So stoked to finally make it out to Texas and chat. Had a blast!
Congrats man. Great job, and well deserved.
Legend among commoners
Fuck yes dude!
Waiting for this to become top comment...
CONGRATS BRO YOU DESERVED THIS !!!
Finally Joe gets the publicity he deserves.
Thank you Derek.
Finally Joe has been exposed! He lied and lied and lied to protect cheaters and now it’s biting him in his own ass. What a joy it is to see the liar binge in his own crap after this much time 💩
Defo for the win
Anything is possible only and through the delt God himself
@@spurs5677 I agree
😂😂😂😂
I can literally listen to Derek talk about things I dont understand at all for hours
Indeed
He talks about super understandable shit. He just uses biochem verbiage for whatever fkn reason. Normally ppl that speak that way use it as a means to try and validate the little they know. I think any educated person with a background in the sciences sees through the BS. Not saying he’s wrong, but he overcomplicates easy topics to understand and imo he doesn’t really know much more than a gym goer who’s taken a VERY BASIC biochem class
@@rlbnll123 Ur wrong. Have 6 doctors in famely and friend group and they all like this guy.
@@rlbnll123 lol, just say you’re a hater 💀
@@rlbnll123 have you ever taken an intro biochem class? You do not learn anywhere near the level of detail for hormone synthesis or metabolism at an undergrad level unless you are taking a class specifically on endocrinology which most biochemistry majors do not.
Derek is one of Canada's most underrated gems. Love this dude. Fan for years.
I thought he was from Idaho?
The guy speaks about dudes bodies ans steroids all day lol its weird
crazy how greg and derek are like the main hubs for the truth of the fitness industry right now and both happen to be Canadian eh.. canada ftw
@@Aerochalklate Greg is far from a hub for truth. The guy is as dishonest as the rest. Gaslights his audience, sells useless supplements, tries to censor criticism, plugs an over priced cook book which can be condensed to "switch to low calorie alternatives, replace baking ingredients with vita fibre, sweetener and protein powder", recommended test as a supplement, has a history of cheating in sports and got caught smuggling steroids.
What happen to goodlookingloser?
Derek wore a jacket so Joe’s head wouldn’t be intimidated by how shiny Derek’s delts were. What a class act!
Both roided to the gills 😎
@@pube66 none of them is hiding it so stfu
@@pube66 you should try some, so you won't act like a jealous little girl online.
@@pube66 supraphysiological amount of beaver tranquilizers.
@@zoulkarneinbagagnan3995 what's wrong with what he said. Why the aggression?
When Derek throws the “it was pretty fucking bad dude” at Rogan 😂
lmaooo i thought the same thing when i heard it
😂 Ikr!
crying laughing face three times
@@fairuzsyahraisan7235 lmao
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Having MPMD lay out precisely how Jone's test results suggest he was doping is amazing. Finally Joe can understand.. it's so cringy everytime Rogan defends Jon about this
It's beautiful to see Rogan bro science get absolutely fucking shredded to bits by a man who is undeniably knowledgeable and factual
@@EpicwinFTW27 and yet all his followers believe his pseudoscience covid bullshit.
@@EpicwinFTW27 Derek laid it all out and was undeniable. Joe still seemed like he was in denial through it all tho
I don't think rogan was really defending him, he was asking for clarification how it could because based on his knowledge it shouldn't be possible, and MPMD helped provide more information on how it was possible.
It's Joe's friend. Of course he's not gonna lend his voice to the case of Jones' guilt.
I'd do the same for my friends
It's great to see Derek leveling up. He belongs here. He's a smart bro. And he's been grinding for years to get this far. So good to see him again .
Fanboys who defend cheaters by making empty claims that everyone is on steroids while they have no proof is so funny
@@Randomhandlename not really.
@@iorilamia Yes really.
@@iorilamiaproof everyone is on steroids?
@@Randomhandlename proof that a lot of people are even saying that? Your calling out a fallacy that your are literally using right now.
Incredible that he actually managed to fit his delts into Joe's studio.
It is pretty fucking impressive
Thank god joe moved to the new bigger studio
And he wants to be called Goat 🤣🤣🤣🤣 never, non of the fights are legitimate, look at his last fight when he ease down on the steroids...Ryes beaten him, Jon Jones should not even be in the top 50 of best ufc fighters
@Nathan Southerling They're both using the same microphone. So maybe they're social distancing in the same studio, and no green screen.
Lol Joe actually complimented Derek's delts in the podcast.
Derek made it boys! Congrats to the delt lord and our surrogate father. obviously he deserves it!
Jon Jones fans are scumbags, they endorse a cheating woman beater.
Another Canadian makes it! Congrats Derek!
Hell yea!! Congrats Derek!!
He totally deserves it.
Haha totally awesome!
Rogan wanted Derek to say something that was gonna save Jones LMAO! Jon Jones juiced, EVERYTHING points to that, from his brother, to his test results, to his lifestyle, EVERYTHING! points to him taken PEDs. It blows my mind, how many people fish so hard to say Jones didn't take anything.
Basically every athlete from my era used PEDs. Back in the mid 90’s-early 2000’s everyone did juice.
Everyone is on steroids - Nate Diaz
@@mrinaljena3 idk I'm not gonna say he isn't but nate definitely is lower on the list of people I'd accuse
@@damiansconberg4715 diaz literally tested positive for roids
@@botondbakos5954 when? And proof?
It's very funny to me that JJ will hit a woman, crash into a pregnant ladies car, drink and drive, shoot a gun randomly into the air for no apparent reason and just basically be a shitty person but when it comes to steroids everyone's like nooooooo Jon would never stoop so low, he would never do such a thing 🙄
Exactly!!!!!!
What would blow people's minds is that almost every professional athlete is on something
Lance Armstrong for fuck sakes took drugs and passed Olympic drug testing... you don't think people playing football and fighting aren't taking things at the very least for recovery
The thing is nobody ever said that, you made it up.
You literally made that up but ok
Damn
Still the ufc goat tho
Derek being on JRE makes it feel like I’m on JRE 😂
I feel like i made it bro 😂
Yes!
We go where the delt homie goes!
Alot of ped bros here
Hahaha true
Never took any PEDs and never plan to. Still listen to this guy all the time to add to the endless list of unused information backlogged in my brain.
I'm the same in soo many topics. It's not useful to me but it's really interesting
You'll take Viagra for performance, stop lying.
it's really just in one ear out the other for me lmao there's too much "unused" information in the world
Yes, this is me, Im so nerdy lol
Once you start, there is no going back.
"If his test is so low then how does he perform well?" my gosh. Joes continual denial of PED use is astounding at times..
It's not denial dude, relax, lol. He's just trying to understand. He knows that high testosterone good and low is bad. He's not an expert like Derek. Also he doesn't want to believe that Jones was cheating all these years and wants to give him every chance at a benefit of the doubt.
he's having a conversation and asking questions so the audience can understand
@@AllProEra It's that but it's not just that. He's trying to wrap his head around it possibly being true. Because he doesn't want to believe it. Rogan Truly believed that Jones was the baddest man on earth and kind of had him on a pedestal, this was apparent for many years. Nothing wrong with it. We're all fans of someone or something.
Joe is just using his platform to support his friend in Jon. He knows what the deal is.
What an absolute great show. I'm happy Derek made it there so full of knowledge. It's fascinating listening to especially working for a TRT clinic myself.
Good to see Joe was able to get on Derek's show. He's finally made it.
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LMFAO
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I love the way Derek delt with this topic, while shouldering the responsibility of explaining it.
He kind of just shrugged the questions off
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I see what you did there
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Found Derek this year and the guy is an incredible wealth of knowledge. So pumped to see him on Joe's show!
Usually when somebody takes a shot at Jones on social media, he'll take a shot right back at them.
Derek started taking shots, and Jones didn't say a word and immediately blocked him on all social media.
That's almost the biggest piece of evidence right there.
But low IQ jones fanboys will still ignore it all and live in their bubble
No it’s not.
@@puertoricanpapi1356 You're right.
Thank God for his blood work results we have!
What is evidence without proof? JJ still one of the best of all time. Still a millionaire. Still would beat up your favorite fighter and still !!! Keep drinking the hatorade
@@gage8391he goit caught in multiple tests , and Derek broke down everything up , he cheated dude and a drug addict mofo.
It’s crazy how far derek has come in the last 2 years.
I literally shouted in my room just there “no fucking way” hahaha I thought he was edited into the video I love his channel
Not that short amount of time really... people don't see the amount of work he put in to start with.
Consistency is key
That's what she said
Yes after 7-8 years of uploading he’s become an over night success…lol
This is awesome
Bro your built like a toothpick
Yes it was.....
Just put "vaccine" on the label & sheepole will endorse any neurotoxin/carcinogen/jungle juice?
your next
@@youknow2849 He's built a thousand times better than you whimp
It’s always been so annoying how joe pretends Jones isn’t a cheater.
Agreed. Jon roids jones.
Joe pretends a lot of things
I'm pretty sure it's kinda his job to not bash his bosses workers publicly.
He is playing devils advocate.
@@Fizzy332 no he is not, he has always defended him blindly on this matter.
I’m sure Jon is real happy this topic came up again on such a huge platform, lol.
Derek is such a humble guy, he wears a jacket so he won’t make Joe feel small with his delts
Can't even hide them under an elephant
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“Explain pulsing to people who don’t know what we’re talking about” slick one Joe lol
Right lol. I had no fucking clue what pulsing was and they both kept throwing the word around. That was huge for me
@@jackhanson5157 op was saying Joe said that bcos he didn't know either
Yes, explain this thing I don't understand to all the laymen out there who aren't familiar with this term.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
He does this quite a lot actually :D
Joe “What could be another explanation?”
Derek “uh, castration.”
Crazy how in denial Joe is about this. Jon Jones cheated. Its nearly indisputable lmao.
I noticed this too, and joe Rogan extreme bias toward Jon Jones vs Dominick Reyes recap vid. He’s a fanboy.
@@carloferretti8956 well yeah he's a fanboy. That is why he doesn't wanna accept the truth.
You guys are all insane. Joe has came out and talked about it himself, he’s only asking that to get more out of Derek. Quit being haters 😂
He works for ufc, so...
I think it was purposely to show how big of a deal that low number actually was and how it wasnt normal. Not defending Jones but explaining the audience what's the big deal about it.
I had no idea this guy was this informed, articulate and convincing. He's on top of his shit, what a great guest.
physically and MENTALLY swole!
This is so unexpected but so dope
3 favorite youtubers on one vid!
Star wars theory watches MPMD's! At this point it seems like every dude on TH-cam follows him lol
When are you gonna get on this podcast man? :)
the force is with derek from more plates more dates
Hey bro I got no videos but we should collab hit me up! I'll hold my breath till you message me *Holds breath*
Absolutely legendary to see Derek on here!
Ur mum lol
Me and @Merijn watching the same video at the same time...
👅👅👅
Student aesthetics in the building . Holy smokes we got all the dudes in the house
To see Derek from an other angle is confusing
Its huge seeing Derek on JRE. Dude is so well studied on the topic of hormone replacement. Props to Joe Rogan for giving the people what they want
Well studied? He’s in his 30s and has no degree. He’s a blogger and TH-camr who makes content and creates controversy to get notoriety
@@gage8391 Get a life
@@gage8391he is well studied, incredibly well studied. There’s a reason that nobody in the industry, no professionals, nobody that knows anything really is coming after him.
His specialization is more focused than what any degree will usually get you, as well as the fact that from everything I’ve seen he never stops studying. I’m a bio major and I’ve had to study to keep up with the terminology he uses in his vids, and I have never found a single time where he was wrong.
He is by far the most educated TH-camr in that specific area. It’s a relatively niche area but within it he is more knowledgeable than anyone else on the platform
I love derrick bruh. The "uhhh, castration" 😭
I always thought Derek was knowledgeable but after listening to the full podcast I’m convinced he’s a genius. Mad respect ✌️
Fr most of the time I have no idea what he’s saying 😂
@@monkman5263 fax😂
Ayyyy the king of stealing other peoples ideas/content.
He is a bro genius.
It took a podcast to determine that? After literally years and thousands of hours of content, you're just determining this now? Lol
Derek on JRE is the sole reason I am going to listen to this on Spotify
Don’t use Spotify so I’ve missed every thing since he made the switch. Will absolutely check this one.
ditto
ditto
Same
Yup
The mental gymnastics Jones fans use to convince themselves that hes not a drug cheat are gold medal level
This was sick. Looking forward to the next Podcast with the two of you🔥🔥
Joe: "For people who don't know what we're talking about, let's try and explain this simpler"
Derek : starts using even bigger words and more elaborate examples referencing scientific studies.
Derek isn't for plebians
Joe probably got some questions for him personally after this interview haha
whenever derrek makes super technical vids where he starts blurting out technical shit I start nodding my head acting like I get whats going on
If you cant explain shit in simpler terms, you probably dont know shit about what youre talking. Basically his speculations are all theoretical, he hasnt been behind these athletes and their doping methods he doesnt know shit .
@@prolifeuk6659 whaaaa??? 🤦🏻♂️
Damnn Derek. Good stuff. This man taught me a lot over the last 2 years.
Wow that escalated quickly LMFAO!!!
@@logibear453 hahaha
Look,Up
Elon Musk meets Post Malone
It’s hilarious! 😆
@kaaamos of course he does, he actually knows his stuff
@kaaamos an animal's ignorance of a concept isn't proof of that concept being false, and anyone believing it does is not only ignorant but stupid.
Animals are ignorant to the differences between carbs, fats and proteins, they're ignorant to all the micronutrients.
I guess macro and micronutrients have no effect on the animals because they don't know about them, right?
When Derek said Athletes in Russia, what flashed in my head is Ivan Drago 😁
Jones has been failing tests for years now. Anyone who doubts his rampant gear use is in denial. Joe did seem fanboyish, but in his defense he does like to ask questions and play devils advocate. Both things can be true at the same time in this case. Btw, arguing that other fighters use PEDs doesnt at all justify jones doing it. The reason is for every 5 fighters that dope, theres 1 that doesnt who gets the unfair shake of it. And for that reason jones should be viewed as a cheating coward until he tests clean. And even then people will never really trust his results due to cycling. Hes effectively ruined any legacy he couldve had, at least in the eyes of anyone who lives in reality.
If you don’t think many fighters do peds you’re a sheep
100% agree. I don’t understand how anyone is a fan of his
Idk if it ruined his legacy tbh. There’s many fighters we idolize in the ufc and out that have failed drug tests.
You're deluded if you think anyone who fights as their main source of living income isn't juicing, it's not even 1 in 5 who don't it's 1 in 500'000
@@Strawberryscent_ their are many natty fighters
I like that Joe was willing to sit and listen to this younger man explain to him a subject that commonly comes up on these podcasts. He gave him his attention and didn’t cut him off, and asked good questions at the right times. I think Joe learned a lot from Derek on this podcast!
Yea. Joe conducts a good interview
@@Coldestaevadoit His last few interviews have been very good maybe he took a look at what a douchebag he has been in the last year and got back to what made him so successful in the first place
@@Coldestaevadoit sometimes. When Dr Rhonda Patrick was talking about Covid he flat out refused to let her completely answer a question without butting in to ask an another 3 questions or go on a tangent. Making it very difficult for her to get to her point. He really couldn't just shut his mouth for a minute.
but the dumb questions he asked where so obviously defending jon jones lmaoo.
@@Paul-ew5st this makes no sense Joe is the same as he has always been
GUYS.
WE MADE IT.
SO PROUD OF YOU DEREK
Nice profile name and picture crying laughing face emoji x3
😂😂
MoreDishesMoreBishes
Haha more sarms more arms 😆 I saw a post of yours once and then couldn’t find you , more sarms and more arms with a pic of des with marhoosive arms
Just burst out laughing
The clomid letrozole is easy to explain, he was on a heavier cycle then used those to restore his HPTA so he could test “clean” for his fight. But he didn’t expect to be tested when he was still using them
Dude been watching you for years. This is awesome to see you finally make it on JR.
Superphysiological amounts of pride seeing this. So amazing to see how far you’ve come Derek, Been rooting for you, still rooting for you. Keep it up, love you man.
Supra bruh!
So pumped to see him there
Gay
Derek does such a good job of being a knowledgeable role model that it’s hard to not support him. What a class act
The question is “is he clean 😂😂😂 or he is also in steroid 😂😂😂😂 he knows how to identify his friends
The guys all time
@@immigranthustlemind8655 Thats the immigrant hustle mind for you
I usually just make Comments to clown on people, but that was a wonderful comment I couldn’t agree more, Perfectly crafted comment thank you!!!
@@immigranthustlemind8655 are you Stipe?
GREAT video. Very informative and compelling.
love listening to mpmd very informative yet entertaining
Derek calling Joe "dude" is the ultimate Derek experience on JRexperience 😂😂
Ayy lmao
@@matthewp5472 OGs of MPMD, assemble😂
@Ya boi exactly man, "that does put a smile on my face" 😉
Holy Fkn shit the crossover finally happened, what an achievement. So fkn dope💪🏻💪🏻MPMD deserves this. Gonna listen to it on Spotify, haven’t listen to a Jre podcast in months, but will do with this one
Same!
Have you seen
“Elon Musk meets Post Malone”
It’s hilarious!! 👽
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These bots are out of control.
What's the deal with these garbage bots?
This makes sense i wish i was this knowledgeable to explain this at a family get together😢
Derek is extremely deserving of this opportunity, great to see him here
Seeing the announcement of Derek being on just had me smiling
Why are so many people stoked about this guy? Like, a lot of people are saying that.
@@hdn4nd He's a big deal in the fitness community basically
@@hdn4nd unless your a fan yourself, you don’t really understand. But just know it’s a big deal lol
Derek is such a nice guy, didn't wear a tank and let the Death Star Delts™pop because he didn't want to intimidate Joe. Class act.
Derrick’s delts are pretty amazing. I wish he were my brother.
one day we’ll all be in orbit of his delts
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BenMJay He's a big brother for all of us, king
Can’t wait to see the full interview
Derek truly changing the fitness Industry love to see it
I’m so glad Derek got on here. People are extremely ignorant when it comes to PED usage and although mpmd has educated a lot of people, JRE platform is just so much bigger.
It’s great…but…ultimately it’s on level 1 of my care factor in life. I care more about how my neighbor is doing or if my local business can make it through recent times vs. whether athletes are using PEDs.
Yea a UFC guy that’s essentially been there since the beginning, totally has never educated people on these things …with the biggest media communication system ever …. 🤔
He's extremely ignorant himself 😂 He doesn't understand why the one drug pulsed but the other didn't. He clearly didn't take enough to pulse, but this guy acts like it's some baffling got ya. In reality it just shows his confirmation bias. I'd sure like to see Jeff or a PhD hand him his ass on this ridiculousness.
@@NoMoreBsPlease Well... He's got a phD himself LOL
Walk into any locker room from The HS level and up.... you will find PEDs. So how can anyone believe that with MILLIONS of dollars on the line, athletes would be "clean"??????
Who believes that???
So sick to see this happen. Can’t wait to listen 🚀
Chris Williamson 😍😍💪🤤
Yo my man let's go🤙
Chris, you were great on Timcast the other day.
You need to get on JRE lad, get Malice to sort it
this comment is 10000% true
Stoked about this! I've been waiting for the day this collab would happen
"Hard training does suppress it"... "What could be another possible explanation"... It felt to me almost as if Joe was trying to get Derek to find a reason other than what Derek was giving him. Hats off to Derek here for pushing the point home.
"You think it's possible..."... Fucking common Joe, is this one of your comedy bits? You know mate. You literally just named "the Clear".
Uhh finally!! A guy who can shut joe up factually and pretty much give a scientific/logical assessment of jones being a drug cheat. Satisfying.
Joe has been defending Jones cheating so much
@@MonachusRex wayyyyy too much.. it’s pretty apparent now even if you don’t know much about PEDs you can still look at the man’s history behaviour and observe that he would not have any hesitation in taking some drugs to improve or cheats.. remember what he said on the podcast “I used to get wasted before fights so that if I lost I could say to myself it was coz of that” a snippet into his mentality
The Jones guy looks like a walking lab experiment. The clomid pulsing was obviously a smokescreen, weird that Joe supported him.
He kind of has to as he works for UFC, i dont agree with him as jones is obviously a cheat
Jon has testosterone lower than my wife due to hard training - Joe Rogan.
Derek is the only guy who remains highly entertaining even if you have no earthly understanding of what he is talking about.
With his high intellect, add a few f bombs, and you've got a recipe for success. Yea, and most of the time, I catch myself rhinking... why do I even care about this?
Literally me I don't know a single thing about the drugs/ products he dissects but I've just loved his style of delivering the knowledge since I found his Chanel during quarantine
So true 😂
ive been studying PEDs/nutrition/fitness/supps since 2012, i worked in gyms and nutrition stores for a few years, and i did bodybuilding for several years and im the guy everyone from my area will come to for advice on those subjects or to buy "stuff".. ive been searching the internet for the best source of info since 2012 including actually going to endocrinologists (endos surprisingly dont know shit despite going to school for it) and Derek is without a doubt the most knowledgeable person ive ever seen and many times hes said stuff that has went completely over my head but everything he talks about is 100% truth but he also never acts like or claims to know everything and has the humility to admit when he doesnt know something or could be wrong... which is amazing considering every endo ive gone to think theyre the god of knowledge and you cant tell them shit...
I know though.. you kinda know right?
Love both Silva and Jones careers, but Khabib and GSP never popped and did everything (knowingly) clean and that is why I consider then the GOATs
Derek is so well spoken. Very good brain.
The Death Star Delts are on JRE.
And he didn't even flex his physique.
I expected nothing less.
Pure class.
Legendary collab
Derek is proof positive if you just follow your passion and dreams, believe in yourself and persist you will do things and get the attention of people you would have never thought possible. Also a meathead can most definitely analyze, dissect, understand and convey the information in a way that is informative, entertaining and genuine. Fucking ay Derek, You made it.
2 of my favorite shows finally colliding love it
This is surreal, so happy for Derek
Our boy finally got out the sauna
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Sho habibi
@@Themosaicsound nfokho
"What way could that happen from not cheating?"
Derek - "Castration"
Sad
Punk rock sounds, the voice is the rhythm.
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Ownagr
6:15 😂
5:35 "yeah but to the degree where he's like... a female... probably not" lmao
Big fan of Derek. So glad to see him on Joe Rogans show, but I'm also not surprised. Dudes ultra quality. Brilliant dude.
Showed my cat this episode, now i have a pet tiger
I remember watching derek when he had around 45k subs. This is absolutely insane to see him on the most popular podcast
You think firas had some to do with it
Damn, I wish I was that early, I can't remember when I first saw him, I know it was 300k subs, maybe even 200k, but not
Same. Not sure how many subscribers he had when I found him, but I'm pretty sure it was around early 2019, maybe late 2018. He didn't have many videos out then I think. He definitely didn't crank them out as fast as he does now, but he was still making videos like crazy back then. Way more than many other youtubers. Derek is the reason I will stay natty.
The More Plates More Dates guy and that dude from Fear Factor did a podcast?
No, it’s an illusion. Green screen affects.
@@tikemyson8541 deepfaked
I first read his profile name as "More Pilates More Dates" and thought, ok interesting take
And not a single life was changed...
What answer are you trying to get by asking this?
Joe is completely unwilling to admit that these fighters are juicing. He tries to pull out any excuse.
I think because Joe has heard Jon's side to the story and is also playing devils advocate for the sake of the discussion.
he knows hes not stupid truth is they all dope. They microdose and know how to beat tests using masking agents as well as undetectable compounds. The drug makers are always aheads of the drug testers. If they are at the top level of sports hood chance they have doped at some point especially fighting the body needs those substances simply to keep up with the work load and abuse to body.
I remember this podcast had to revisit this, so long awaited
Alternative title: “Derek talks about Jon Jones PED use to the literally the only man on earth who believes Jon Jones is clean.”
Lmao
"Okay, I know what you're saying is he's using but can you tell me why he isn't" @6:09
Joe lies for Dana's cash cow.
@@lovelyhurlin6494 Jon Jones isn't a cash cow though. That's why he can't get paid what he's demanding. Also Jon Jones is a boring fighter. He hasn't had a TKO win since Gustafson. That was like 3 years ago. He also was gifted a decision win against Reyes.
Wait, Rogan still thinks Jones wasn't using?
Derek is the man, very well spoken & such a stand up guy. You made it chief
yep. _100%_ right
He’s a paradox which is why so many people love his content. One moment he’s talking about supraphysiological gains caused by exogenous compounds, then he drops a f#ck dude, ease up on the trembaloney sandwiches, rally dude? Absolute legend. 🇨🇦
@clubXXX💕🔥 smh the bots from insta made it to youtube.... -.-
@clubXXX💕🔥 I should not have opened that "read more" thing
@@salmano1809 There's also bots now that are verified and have hundreds of thousands of subscribers, so it looks like a real person. It's crazy how advanced the bots are getting now, these e-girl ones are pretty basic in comparison.
Joe making every excuse in the book for Jon Jones😭
Explaining to Joe that Jon Jones used steroids is like explaining to a toddler that Santa isn't real. No matter how many facts you give them they still want to believe.
It's killing Joe to hear the truth. He's accused many people of steroids but defends Jones who holds the record for most failed drug tests in the UFC.
Does Jon actually hold that record? Lmaooooo
You're right about him accusing everyone of steroids but always covering for Jon. This is why Dana White was always his friend.
Yeah it was so obvious how hard Joe was trying to deny it. Especially that "what could be another possible explanation for the low T" question
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Yea it seems like Joe doesn't want to come to terms that jones is and has always been a steroid cheat, if you look at his last 4 performances and compare those to his his first 4 title defenses it's as clear as it can get
Well he is a shill for the ufc. He wants to support the company. One of their stars being portrayed by the media (joe) as a steroid cheat aint good PR
This will be the one that actually makes me watch the whole thing on Spotify. Congrats Derek you are a legend my friend.
Is there a full video of this episode on Spotify or just audio?
Full vid is on Spotify
Same
And that’s why Joe got the fat check.
It was great
Great to see Derek on the podcast, he's such a great and knowledgable guy.
Derek absolutely shut Joe up. And i'm really happy to see that happening to Joe although i'm his fan and mostly side with him. Joe tried everything he possibly could to protect Jon like he always does.
Joe was just asking questions that a listener may want to follow up with I’m not sure if he got “shut up” it’s critical thinking
@@Zachboulden hes talking about the other times Joe has defended Jones and doubting his steroid use
Not really.
Joe just ask normal question without raising his voice and stayed civil
If anything joe proved how objective he is bc if he was biased he would've argued or not allow this podcast
Your fucking username is incredible dude
I cannot believe that i shat on Joe Rogan. He was just being reasonable. Wtf did i do... 🤦♂️
He handled himself great on the pod, some poeple you can tell are tense but not Derek, his boulders gave him the confidence he needed too keep from freaking out
So instead of listening to what he was saying you were looking for how comfortable he was?
Weirdo
@@satyro8186 yep
@@satyro8186 well compared to the other youtuber that was recently on, Derek was a way better speaker to convey his ideas and more of a genuine person. These podcasts were my first introduction to both of their channels so it's and easy pick which was better.
Yea when your that jacked I don't see confidence being a real problem
@@satyro8186 Not really
Derek is getting a supra-physiological amount of exposure and he deserves it
supra*
I’m supra-psychologically aroused
It's very clear this man has done years and years worth of research so he can just give FACTS not opinions. I'm a big Jon Jones fan but I have to be honest and say he's cheated the game for years and mostly got away with it. It's a cat and mouse game catching ped users out with new stuff
Still your GOAT?🤔
@@joshhponce6768 if ped use is wide spread in the ufc and mma then yeah.
@@senorpepper3405 its wide spread in all sports
@@joshhponce6768 hell no
Here they come... Jones fans using their only argument left: "But everyone uses PEDs"
Waited so long for this
"Explain pulsing to people who don't know what we're talking about", says Joe while not knowing what they're talking about
🤣🤣🤣🤣
My thought exactly
Joe, while himself and everyone on the channel is not knowing what Derek is talking about, lol. It got really good after that though.
Lol. As if Joe doesn't know about roids and pulsing. Look at him from fear factor to now. It ain't all natural. He has a team of doctors. He has stated on many pods..
Joe literally takes trt , gh etc. He knows about that world but hes giving this guy a chance to speak
I'm so happy for Derek. This is absolutely huge for his career
🤣 Questioning whether or not someone is on steroids isn't a career...
@@MiggsMultiple his TH-cam is his career and this is technically a Collab so yeah its good for his career, plus he also has his own supplement company to and its all exposure for him.
@@MiggsMultiple He’s mainly relaying scientific knowledge and data regarding health, fitness or bodybuilding.
@@dboff Aren't there 1000's that do that?
I don't obsess over the community but I still know of Athlean X, Hodge Twins,Elliot Hulse ,Bar Stars etc...
Saw this guy once doing a video that seemed to be stating the obvious about celebrity drug use is all.
@@MiggsMultiple He co-owns a successful supplement brand and has a million followers on TH-cam. He gets paid to learn and talk about something he loves. That's as successful as successful gets.
Started from the bottom now he’s there. Legendary, legit happy for Derek 👌
Great to see this podcast 👊🏻👊🏻
Why is your channel not verified Greg
Lmao, kino"we are a different breed"body, i am quite surprised to find you here
Joe has finally been exposed…by himself. The man that lied for Jon Jones , worked against George St Pierre , has finally started to expose himself. The universe works in mysterious ways.
Wow. Yup it is , great to see you here too supporting Derek !!!
kino a fake natty 😝
This just blew my mind. Never thought this would ever happen. People in Derek’s comment section have been calling for this for years.
I laughed so damned hard when Joe Rogan asked, "can you think of any other reason he had such low testosterone" annd Derek was like 'i dunno...castration."
Dead
Yeah, Joe tried to muddle the water but he came up short
@Cody Garbrandt I heard a bad weight cut can really fuck your levels.
@@uhasuhdude6567 true but not to the point where its single digits
not possible with a working pair of balls
@@madaxwayne pretty sure paddy the baddy said on his podcast with meatball molly he had he had an awful weight cut and his levels where that of a little girl.Was also close to kidney but that’s not relevant.
Derek is just BAD ASS... His knowledge is second to none. Kudos to JR for following along.. it's not always easy to understand.
This is Joe trying to save a future jon Jones interview 😂
I love this crossover. I would hope they talk about Adesanya’s gyno
I second that
Wtf trying to tarnish him lol he’s not Jones
@@DylanDocker explain the gyno then
And Spotty back pox Usman lol
Claims vs fact. If usada is testing and finding nothing then what is there to claim ? Are you saying you know more than the ufc ?
Wow! It finally happened 🙌🏼
The two juice kings 🤴
Yup rob ye big juice box
Ew
@@BD-pp7un 😂 happy to see these comments. Mirin’, as we say, but no thanks
@@BD-pp7un lmao this comment is hilarious
Great video
Finally someone with balls enough to call this cheater out.