The format of these videos give so much information, entertainment for that knowledge retention, but most importantly, inspiration. I always leave these videos ready to go tinker and usually with plugins I already own. Well done dude. Appreciate you in this space.
Spring Reverb Snob here! the Pulsar indeed sounds great! I'm surrounded by real hardware spring reverbs (Peavey Valverb and Korg GR-1) You should also try TENS (by Klanghelm) and Springbox by PSP Audioware which are great plugin Spring reverbs, each unique. Keep up the Lords work!
Yup, big spring reverb fan here too. I recently sold an Orban 111B that I had for many, many years because I didn't really love the sound. Springs are an ESSENTIAL seasoning with Dub and that's my jam. That Primavera is very good BTW.
I just got an orban 111b and love it! I make reggae music and find it very nice. I do still use plenty of spring plugins but there’s a unique sound from the orban that’s unlike any plugin I’ve found so far. What didn’t you like about it?
@@justicejamesmusic TBH, it was noisy and I just wasn't using it that much. It's got a lot of great features like the switchable limiter and EQ, but the sound wasn't doing it for me. I'm a big dub fanatic, but I'll be looking out for something else later in life after our big studio move.
The Sound Toys Plate was always to "knocky" sounding for snare to me. I pretty much only ever use it on synths. I use PSP Spring Box and Soft Tube spring a lot on Snare. I have a 1963 Epiphone Pathfinder guitar amp that if you turn the volume down all the way, and the reverb up, you get all wet reverb from the guitar amp. I mic and reamp that for vocals, synth, snare... everything. it's fantastic.
Back in like 2010 I got the Softube spring reverb plugin. My friends all turned their noses up at it because it wasn’t analog (I also have a 90’s Fender tube reverb unit). But I would sneak some of the Softube on the snare and/or drum OH’s and they were in love!
Yeah it was reggae/dub that first started the trend of it being used, then soul and funk n fusion etc, I like the way Khruangbin subtly use spring reverb
I love reverb on drums. The spring on the snare is really cool, it reminds me of a Radiohead tune (Decks Dark maybe?) I'm also a massive fan of the LinnDrum snare and clap through a Lexicon 224. Probably my favorite snare reverb sound is on Kuhmilch 74 Bpm by Vulfpeck. The mix is so crushed that the (plate?) reverb spreads really nicely. Love the video!
Love this whole mix breakdown format and affinity for spring reverbs!! I recently just made a video here using an old Carvin PA mixer to sum drums through because those old boards have some of the best spring verbs... my MX822 is snappy and sounds closer to this Primavera, but the SP600 is like a lengthy plate-like sound... SPRING SUPREMACY ✨
Ooo that would be fun. Kicks are where I really go wild. Everything else can survive with mild processing but kicks I always end up with massive chains! Will continue to release more videos based on this subject for sure.
Yes that would be a close approximation. Only difference is on the example I’m doing the whole kit is getting reverb since the overheads pick up everything. It’s just much much more subtle than putting reverb on a snare directly. Another way to replicate this style is just using different sends and amounts of reverb so you have control over each element. A unique set of parameters for each one shot would help.
i should really use springs more on drums, i use em a lot on electronic drums (808s and CR78s mostly) cause it has this cool unnatural sound but i never really use em on “regular” drums
Can you detail out that combination of the Echoplex through the pedal (Jekyll & Hyde? What model exactly is that?). Did I understand you right, the exact order goes like this: raw sound - Jekyll pedal - Echoplex delay, doesn't it? The sound that I am talking about is exactly at the timecode 08:18.
I believe it went raw sound - echoplex - then Jekyll and Hyde (OG version). So the echos also achieved some nice saturation. Also I released the video of my making processing those. It’s the mixing drums to cassette video!
Not necessarily. I chose minimal productions here to highlight the verbs. I think by playing with decay times, plus ducking features you can add reverb to any sort of mix and it can enhance it.
You know there are some things you discover only days after a session sometimes. When you have a room full of musicians, juggling all the mics, trouble shooting, making sure everyone’s comfortable, things inevitably get lost in the sauce. And as for drum replacement software, I guess I just like to make things more difficult 😞
Love it, man! I'm excited to do some of my own drum processing using spring reverb. Luckily I already own these plugins. What are your thoughts on using electronic drum samples? I've got a LinnDrum - going to at least see how it sounds. Sometimes I'll forego recording real drums if I've got a whole lot of other acoustic elements and maybe some spring would give a little more life. Thanks!
Definitely depends on the track but a real drummer is always going to be a very different vibe to electronic drums. I think spring can work but if you're trying to bring "life" to drums machines heavy modulated digital reverbs, phasers, choruses and even re-amping can help push it further. I think on acoustic kits these can often make the drums sound un-natural but on drum machines that's often part of the appeal already. They're all just tools though and it will always depend on what vibe you're going for - sometimes a super dry linndrum might be the way to go.
@@vvundertone The LinnDrum is great, but I would venture to say that what you do with drums comes out sounding much better in the end (to my ears, at least) - You have proven that analog/digital can work together in harmony and that we can still find vintage recording equipment out there that is unique, sounds phenomenal, but doesn't completely annihilate the bank account.
Finally a youtube producer who works on good music
Now THATS a compliment. Appreciate you! 🫡
@@vvundertone well deserved
Please keep making these videos, absolutely digging your content and visual aesthetics - fully immersed every time I watch. ❤️
The format of these videos give so much information, entertainment for that knowledge retention, but most importantly, inspiration. I always leave these videos ready to go tinker and usually with plugins I already own.
Well done dude. Appreciate you in this space.
Grateful that you shared this experience! This makes me inspired to continue doing what I do! Thank you!
Spring Reverb Snob here! the Pulsar indeed sounds great! I'm surrounded by real hardware spring reverbs (Peavey Valverb and Korg GR-1) You should also try TENS (by Klanghelm) and Springbox by PSP Audioware which are great plugin Spring reverbs, each unique. Keep up the Lords work!
Audiopunks echomixer is amazing too :)
Spring reverb IMPULSE snob here - I have a stoopid collection of them (prolly like 100 samples) that basically moves with me into every new project.
TENS is super indeed. For non-spring, that Ro Gold plate from Black Rooster is divine.
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Will check them out!! Thank you!
not remotely related to the topic of this video but this is some of the best sounding voiceover on YT
Ayyye appreciate that!
Yup, big spring reverb fan here too. I recently sold an Orban 111B that I had for many, many years because I didn't really love the sound. Springs are an ESSENTIAL seasoning with Dub and that's my jam. That Primavera is very good BTW.
I just got an orban 111b and love it! I make reggae music and find it very nice. I do still use plenty of spring plugins but there’s a unique sound from the orban that’s unlike any plugin I’ve found so far. What didn’t you like about it?
@@justicejamesmusic TBH, it was noisy and I just wasn't using it that much.
It's got a lot of great features like the switchable limiter and EQ, but the sound wasn't doing it for me. I'm a big dub fanatic, but I'll be looking out for something else later in life after our big studio move.
Too bad I couldn’t have bought it off you! 😂
@@vvundertonewell if for some reason I ever decide to sell mine I’ll reach out to you first!
Very important video that not many people are making !
Cheers mate, 🙏🏼🤝🏼
The Sound Toys Plate was always to "knocky" sounding for snare to me. I pretty much only ever use it on synths. I use PSP Spring Box and Soft Tube spring a lot on Snare. I have a 1963 Epiphone Pathfinder guitar amp that if you turn the volume down all the way, and the reverb up, you get all wet reverb from the guitar amp. I mic and reamp that for vocals, synth, snare... everything. it's fantastic.
Super plate is the best plate I’ve ever heard.
@@Drfresh1402 I like it on a lot of stuff, I just prefer Vahalla and the UA Pure Plate.
Now that’s the real sauce! Using a guitar amp 🔥
This is one of best YT vids I seen in years!
Appreciate that 🙏🏼
Back in like 2010 I got the Softube spring reverb plugin. My friends all turned their noses up at it because it wasn’t analog (I also have a 90’s Fender tube reverb unit). But I would sneak some of the Softube on the snare and/or drum OH’s and they were in love!
Haha, it’s how you use it!!
Babe wake up, vvundertone just dropped
It's basically the reggae dub drum sound.
Yeah it was reggae/dub that first started the trend of it being used, then soul and funk n fusion etc, I like the way Khruangbin subtly use spring reverb
Indeed. Also used for a lot more
GBD is a great British spring. 2 9DC1D1E tanks and a preamp. Super simple and super nice
Thank you! Are they hard to find?? I couldn’t locate one.
Gibbs was the OG manufacture of the reverb tanks for the Hammond Organ Corporation
Ahhh no wonder. Those sound amazing!
You can adjust the decay of hardware spring reverbs by using varispeed. E.g. Send a sped up signal in and then slow it form
That’s a great work around! Thank you will try. Especially on tape 💥
What a fantastic video. I feel like I’m in the room with you, I’ll be booking another session asap Mr vvundertone 🙌🏻
Wow that’s a great way to put it. I really appreciate that! More to come!
Great job distinguishing the verb plugins - it can really change the groove of a song.
TY! 😂 Right? Reverb is powerful!
I love reverb on drums. The spring on the snare is really cool, it reminds me of a Radiohead tune (Decks Dark maybe?) I'm also a massive fan of the LinnDrum snare and clap through a Lexicon 224. Probably my favorite snare reverb sound is on Kuhmilch 74 Bpm by Vulfpeck. The mix is so crushed that the (plate?) reverb spreads really nicely. Love the video!
Love this whole mix breakdown format and affinity for spring reverbs!! I recently just made a video here using an old Carvin PA mixer to sum drums through because those old boards have some of the best spring verbs... my MX822 is snappy and sounds closer to this Primavera, but the SP600 is like a lengthy plate-like sound... SPRING SUPREMACY ✨
So true. Those old boards for live, or cool 60s garage bands have gorgeous spring tones. And luckily still fairly affordable!
@@vvundertone Shhhh let's keep it that way... Everyone deserves a nice spring ✨
That Pulsar Verb is nasty work
😂👌🏼
I love your videos, please keep doing them. Hello from gdl mexico
🙏🏼 ty! More to come 🤝🏼
Another cool video! Keep up the good work 💪
BX20 Spring by UA is their cheapest reverb but one I use most. Especially vocals and acoustic guitar. Nice dark tone.
got that one too. good stuff. but gotta say trying a real unit of theirs would be incredible. Thing is massive!
You’re stuff sounds amazing. Keep it up! 🙌🏻
Appreciate ✨🙏🏼
Klanghelm's got a Spring verb you might enjoy, Sir.
I’ll scope it out!! TY!
Becoming my favourite vids man. Up and up dude 🎉
🫂🤝🏼✨
I'd love to see just the drum processing broken down. IE the dry raw kick then the processing you've done on it and for all the 4 drum tracks!
Ooo that would be fun. Kicks are where I really go wild. Everything else can survive with mild processing but kicks I always end up with massive chains! Will continue to release more videos based on this subject for sure.
@@vvundertone I await the finer details 😎
GBS = Great British Spring
Love your stuff !!
ooo i love this sm! contentious indeed
Super inspiring 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿5 bagger tutorial
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Excellent video.
Thank you so much!
I loved the video. Which vst piano is it? I saw it's from Labs, but which one? Maybe the soft piano?
Correct. It’s the soft piano. Such a fantastic VST!
When you say added overheads can I do the same thing for just hat and open hat one shot samples? Or is that the same thing as overheads
Yes that would be a close approximation. Only difference is on the example I’m doing the whole kit is getting reverb since the overheads pick up everything. It’s just much much more subtle than putting reverb on a snare directly. Another way to replicate this style is just using different sends and amounts of reverb so you have control over each element. A unique set of parameters for each one shot would help.
Thank you man!
🫡🙏🏼
i should really use springs more on drums, i use em a lot on electronic drums (808s and CR78s mostly) cause it has this cool unnatural sound but i never really use em on “regular” drums
I also love spring on 808s!
Can you detail out that combination of the Echoplex through the pedal (Jekyll & Hyde? What model exactly is that?). Did I understand you right, the exact order goes like this: raw sound - Jekyll pedal - Echoplex delay, doesn't it? The sound that I am talking about is exactly at the timecode 08:18.
I believe it went raw sound - echoplex - then Jekyll and Hyde (OG version). So the echos also achieved some nice saturation. Also I released the video of my making processing those. It’s the mixing drums to cassette video!
So this is all predicated on minimal productions right? There’s not much credence to this if there’s tons of tracks happening in a dense mix right?
Not necessarily. I chose minimal productions here to highlight the verbs. I think by playing with decay times, plus ducking features you can add reverb to any sort of mix and it can enhance it.
@@vvundertonelove it
🔥🔥
Where can I find the full song? Song name?
Sadly I don’t think it’s available on streaming anywhere. But it’s by “The Monroe” song is “Awake at Dawn”
all i hear is vocals taking up 80% of the mix
If you didn’t like the cross stick why not change it?
You know there are some things you discover only days after a session sometimes. When you have a room full of musicians, juggling all the mics, trouble shooting, making sure everyone’s comfortable, things inevitably get lost in the sauce. And as for drum replacement software, I guess I just like to make things more difficult 😞
@@vvundertoneheard on all of that! Sorry I was maybe just feeling crusty.
Love it, man! I'm excited to do some of my own drum processing using spring reverb. Luckily I already own these plugins. What are your thoughts on using electronic drum samples? I've got a LinnDrum - going to at least see how it sounds. Sometimes I'll forego recording real drums if I've got a whole lot of other acoustic elements and maybe some spring would give a little more life. Thanks!
Definitely depends on the track but a real drummer is always going to be a very different vibe to electronic drums. I think spring can work but if you're trying to bring "life" to drums machines heavy modulated digital reverbs, phasers, choruses and even re-amping can help push it further. I think on acoustic kits these can often make the drums sound un-natural but on drum machines that's often part of the appeal already. They're all just tools though and it will always depend on what vibe you're going for - sometimes a super dry linndrum might be the way to go.
I love electronic drum samples. Most of mine come from Casio presets. My dream is a Roland 606. But a LinnDrum! That’s next level for sure.
@@vvundertone The LinnDrum is great, but I would venture to say that what you do with drums comes out sounding much better in the end (to my ears, at least) - You have proven that analog/digital can work together in harmony and that we can still find vintage recording equipment out there that is unique, sounds phenomenal, but doesn't completely annihilate the bank account.
@@tyler_ you literally just wrote the vvundertone mission statement right there 🤝🏼🙏🏼
@@MUFFINWRATH Good insight. Makes complete sense that it might just be good to keep the LinnDrum dry instead of immediately reaching for effects.
nasty work my brother
🙏🏼🤝🏼
What is the song? Name of the band?
The Monroe. Sadly they never put it out
Where’s the piano from?
Spitfire, “Soft Piano”
What is that mic model?
Electro-Voice RE-18
Is that first song released?
whats the name of the song
Sadly no. It’s by The Monroe. It’s called Awake At Dawn.
Onwards and upwards 👆👆👆
maybe do some metal where drum sound actually matters
this is funny.
sort out your vocal mic settings first before you waste my time with your no doubt crap advice.
In the wise words of Weezy F. Baby “Even Gwen Stafani said she couldn’t doubt me”
Sprung reverb is so ugly.