OHP Standards for HUGE Delts!

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    0:15 Beginner
    1:44 Late novice/early intermediate
    2:25 Form talk
    3:41 Intermediate & advanced
    5:51 Elite
    6:44 More advanced
    7:51 Conclusion
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  • @irelianeedsbuff9041
    @irelianeedsbuff9041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +461

    this guy looks like a monster now compare to who he was 4 years ago when i found his channel. The hype media won’t appreciate this guy as much as us natties do😤

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      Much love OG, I'm here for the real ones that want legit content & gains.

    • @mastertrey4683
      @mastertrey4683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Alex is my favorite vegan natty, he is under rated for sure

    • @irelianeedsbuff9041
      @irelianeedsbuff9041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mastertrey4683 lol

    • @TheRandomVaper
      @TheRandomVaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He just popped up in my recommended section today. I haven't been here since the "Back and forth with Blaha" days. He looks smaller to me than he did back then, but he looks a lot leaner than he used to.

    • @enrapturedgoose5317
      @enrapturedgoose5317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlexLeonidas can you explain how you hit a 225 OHP years ago but your max is still 225 lbs now? Haven't made any should gains in years? im a big fan btw

  • @whitefang9758
    @whitefang9758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +902

    Absolutely love OHP,such a badass feeling lift. Can't go wrong with OHP,Lu raises and facepulls for delts.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +265

      Those 3 combined = CRAZY 3D Delts!!

    • @CrowandRaven
      @CrowandRaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      To be honest, there's an exercise from athlean-x that involves the seated row using the lat pulldown bar that I find to better activate my rear delts than face pulls. But I should probably incorporate Lu Raises again for bullet proofing.

    • @Fedethedangerous95
      @Fedethedangerous95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@CrowandRaven I've seen john meadows suggest a similar thing with barbell rowing (several adjustments apply) and having personally tried that for a few months, the rear delt pumps and growth were phenomenal, so I personally agree with them being more beneficial than facepulls alone. Ironically, my rear delts respond best to a row variant, my mid to high traps respond best to facepulls

    • @artv4nd3l4y
      @artv4nd3l4y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I do believe overhead press is a must, but that it really builds so much more front delt like John Meadows also says. The lateral raise is really what gives that 3D pop, look at Vitruvian Physique i.e., always going crazy on the overhead press with dumbbells, and never having great shoulders... I'm sure he does lateral raises, but 3 sets is a joke and not going to build anything. Personally I don't do much OH press (trying to do more though to get more balanced), but my shoulders have grown tremendously from just pressing and really making sure to do lateral raises. I don't mean to tell anyone what to do, just want to share what has worked for me. More Plates More Dates also says lateral raises are a must for full shoulder size, I know he blasted for the delt size he has, but he still knows what he's talking about when it comes to training.

    • @milesmcfarlane6028
      @milesmcfarlane6028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fell in love with OHP a few months ago, became my favourite but injured my wrist from it 3 weeks ago and still haven't recovered🥲

  • @alfakennybody2635
    @alfakennybody2635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    The back shot in the beginning is making me want to do a 3 month cut lol looking insane bro

  • @IIG
    @IIG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +436

    I love OHP. It's my favorite lift. But it's way too unforgiving and unfair. If you let your foot off the gas for a second, you will lose progress for certain. I hit a 210 max back in May, and last week my OHP max was 195, and it felt like 300 pounds. Getting to 225 eventually will truly be the most rewarding thing I've ever done as a lifter.

    • @Nick-dq5fo
      @Nick-dq5fo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Facts

    • @skatevidcentral
      @skatevidcentral 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      This! I got up to 145 x 5 and took 2 months off, afterwards I was struggling to put up 120 for even a rep! It’s brutal how fast I lose OHP strength.

    • @samooo6883
      @samooo6883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So true bro

    • @stateofaffairs1846
      @stateofaffairs1846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I just did my first OHP session in six weeks after a back injury. Broke my all time PR by 22lbs?? After always experiencing my strength disappearing after not doing OHP specifically, it seems horizontal pressing with a high frequency may carry over better than I’d have thought.

    • @TrueLife..
      @TrueLife.. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bruh i never got to that sort of weight but I was at 5 sets of 10 with 25 plates on each side, stopped the movement for awhile and now I'm struggling with sets of 8 with 15s 😅

  • @AleArno9
    @AleArno9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    OHP definitely one of my fav lifts, progression is so hard it makes you want to push harder and harder each session

    • @maximumpower4289
      @maximumpower4289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was easy for me I am so shoulder dominant, it makes me bench comparietely weak and my shoulders end up overtaking the rest of my body in other press exercises.

    • @jeetsupa4362
      @jeetsupa4362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maximumpower4289 whats your bench/ohp ratio?

  • @bilalturkan8004
    @bilalturkan8004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    You have come so far Alex. Always and forever will be motivating brother x

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Much love Bilal!

    • @1Guy1SonyVegas
      @1Guy1SonyVegas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @No thx

    • @halit6407
      @halit6407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kardeşim vücudu beyendim

    • @firepillow
      @firepillow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Cunce salty that you're weak af

  • @Ytaccount821
    @Ytaccount821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    Hey man, think you could flash the kg conversion on screen when you talk about lbs? It'll add a big quality of life improvement to your vids.
    Good shit regardless!

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +210

      Going to start doing that Conor, thanks for your feedback!

    • @olliebeard4089
      @olliebeard4089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@AlexLeonidas that would be brilliant

    • @sla7071
      @sla7071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good idea

    • @HippioKass
      @HippioKass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Divide by 2.2

    • @olliebeard4089
      @olliebeard4089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@HippioKass I know how to do it and do but would just be easier

  • @reubendunn8797
    @reubendunn8797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is great for those looking to understand how to set their goals. Would love to see more on the other big lifts too!

  • @joecowan3719
    @joecowan3719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Just hit a 1 plate OHP last night at 193lb BW after 2.5 years lifting @40, glad I waited to watch this video until after I tested. Great video Alex, thanks for your insights!

  • @simonh.1433
    @simonh.1433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Since i am binge watching your channel bro, i am in love with the OHP. I did the exercise here and there in my routine for years, but never really focused on it. Your videos combined with the Starting Strength technique videos for the OHP was a game changer for me. Thank you for the amazing content Alex, much love from Thailand man!

  • @EmerilHuang
    @EmerilHuang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really loving the recent videos with a general strength standard to the visual gains

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yep, I need this video! Thanks for keeping it real. Might just swap my bench for OHP for a year to try and catch up.

  • @deven9565
    @deven9565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    None of the big 3 compare to the OHP in terms of how good a PR feels IMO

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      You really gotta grind for every miniscule PR, definitely hits different on the OHP.

    • @Reggie1408
      @Reggie1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PR?

    • @lilduchi8802
      @lilduchi8802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Reggie1408 Personal record 💪🏼💪🏼

    • @brute633
      @brute633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nothing beats a deadlift PR :)

    • @Reggie1408
      @Reggie1408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lilduchi8802 Thanks!

  • @GamesDiddley
    @GamesDiddley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Thanks Alex! Currently at 45kg for 5 reps. Really enjoying the OHP

    • @water9355
      @water9355 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      how much u do now?

    • @GamesDiddley
      @GamesDiddley 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@water9355 62.5 max

  • @RS_91
    @RS_91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your previous guide on the overhead press with Phil is underrated, amazing piece for anyone looking to build

  • @ArnelZapataJr
    @ArnelZapataJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dayum I haven't watched Alpha's video in like 2 years and boy he's had a massive transformation! Looking good bro.

  • @ItsxMagiicGaming
    @ItsxMagiicGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Enjoyed this video. Been lifting for a long time but never trained ohp. Im on week 5 of training it and my best training session is 165x9 top set and a 4x8 with 130. 5’11, 205 bw at 12-15% bf. 250 would definitely be a liftetime goal. Im positive i can get to 225+ within a few months time. Id love to see more new content on the OHP, it is definitely a really fun movement I wish I never overlooked. I played D1 baseball so obviously always played throughout my life and was always scared of OHP hurting my shoulder but tbh it has made my shoulders a lot tougher especially doing high rep sets, and someone who has been training a long time in 5 weeks I already see some delt gains. Something Ive been doing is right after OHP i train weighted pullups with the same grip width as my ohp and it feels amazing pairing the two together.

  • @GeauxAssassin
    @GeauxAssassin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I’m a 5’1, 105lbs female. My current OHP goal is 95lbs. I totally think it’s possible

    • @J.Man011
      @J.Man011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That would be insane if you do that! Good luck!

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      My sister did it, so definitely possible!

    • @Cynthia_Blackraven_666
      @Cynthia_Blackraven_666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@AlexLeonidasYou sister is a lifter too ?? That's great to hear bro !

  • @yoshihorror1948
    @yoshihorror1948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good stuff man

  • @emadkhan3099
    @emadkhan3099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's go Alex! Always with those impressive heavy ass OHP. Looking shredded, mate!

  • @TeknoAyiti
    @TeknoAyiti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I weigh 135 lbs and currently been doing a 10x10 program and I am currently doing 95lbs of OHP. I realize that my bench press and incline press have progressed so much in the past month, went from 95 in the incline to 135 incline.

  • @SLouiss
    @SLouiss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OHP helped my bench & continues to do so.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell yeah man, the same has always happened with me.

  • @efitwithnick
    @efitwithnick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the targets. Nice to have something to aim for.

  • @supra-physiologicalandroge6354
    @supra-physiologicalandroge6354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I asked about this on many videos haha im greatful that you were able to make it into a video, thank you for what you do!

  • @gaiusbrutus7174
    @gaiusbrutus7174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    I have been specializing in strict press for 80% of my lifting career, about 4 years. My goal has always been 100kg at a reasonably low bw, and sometime 2 months ago I hit 95 at 67-68bw. The main advice I have for anyone wanting to improve their ohp is find your grip width (makes up to a 10% performance difference for me) and pin press (just press straight off the rack, no front rack position). Also, you are not getting to elite ohp numbers and elite bench numbers at the same time natty, its just very unrealistic. You can get to both with the right genetics and effort, but separately.
    As for accessories, cable ohp helped me break the 90kg plateau and improved my stability like nothing else, it is uncomfortable and looks dumb but it works. Just take any bar cable attachment, set it at bottom pin and press it up.

    • @somber8233
      @somber8233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Not sure I agree with not being able to achieve both at the same time. They both compliment each other afterall. I intend on getting a 240 OHP and 405 bench.
      My bench is currently 340 with a 225 OHP while at a chubby 200 lbs. I'll probably bulk to 220 and hit my goals at that point. From there, I'll retain my strength going back to a leaner 200 lbs.
      That's my plan and I will succeed.

    • @arigato-thx8249
      @arigato-thx8249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@somber8233 this right is what i like to see from people. just the fact you said i will instead of i hope just makes this 1000x more believable that you'll go through with what you said and accomplish it

    • @somber8233
      @somber8233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@arigato-thx8249 Thank you. I hope it inspires.

    • @rockyx_x
      @rockyx_x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@somber8233 good luck man!

    • @somber8233
      @somber8233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rockyx_x I appreciate it.

  • @pancakespushups4318
    @pancakespushups4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I’ve been at a 245lb Press (you can see my channel for proof) and I have to say that OHP is such an incredible exercise, not just for strength but long term health. Going for a 315lb press hopefully within two years, wish me luck.

    • @whitebeard9345
      @whitebeard9345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much you bench?

    • @pancakespushups4318
      @pancakespushups4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@whitebeard9345 I’ve done 335lb on the incline. No idea on regular bench.

    • @monkeyhater4203
      @monkeyhater4203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How long at it? Natty or enhanced?

    • @pancakespushups4318
      @pancakespushups4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@monkeyhater4203 been natty since 2012. But specific OHP emphasis for the past year.

    • @samlifts156
      @samlifts156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pancakespushups4318 hey bro check my recent video and suggest me how to increase bench press I'm novice. I'll appreciate it

  • @zombieprodigy9788
    @zombieprodigy9788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking fantastic Alex wow! Thanks for the advice and tips 👍

  • @zaktheghost3289
    @zaktheghost3289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You inspire me bro thanks for all your amazing videos.

  • @TheBcoolGuy
    @TheBcoolGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've been lifting for 2 years now, not knowing as much at the start as later. I now weigh about 195 lbs. I've been doing overhead work since early days and it was basically my only lift for a few months. Now I'm bordering on intermediate for most lifts. Deadlift 160 kg/352 lbs, Squat 143/315, Bench (lagging, learning) ~87 kg/191 lbs. And my OHP is somewhere in the mid 60 kg range. The heaviest I've done is 60 kg from the floor after a hard workout, and that was months ago. I do seated barbell shoulderpress to get hypertrophy in the shoulders and make sure I don't do as I did in the past and quarter rep it. I've seen my delts grow quite a bit, but my right is noticeably behind my left and has been for a long time now. Shoulder, tricep, and maybe bicep (not entirely sure about that one). I've worked on this with a unilateral db shoulderpress for a long time. We'll see if it gets me the results. I am also doing what I can to make the pressing movements more symmetrical, even if it's at the expense of effective reps on the left. That's what I want, after all. Symmetry. Once they're more symmetrical and better built-up, in the summer, I'm gonna do a strength camp of sorts for the standing OHP from the rack. My lifetime goal is 100 kg. I think I can get up to 70 kg or a bit more by the end of that OHP phase.

    • @Jafmanz
      @Jafmanz ปีที่แล้ว

      scrap the seated shoulder press and swap it for more OHP!

  • @ArminEghdamiDrums
    @ArminEghdamiDrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Damn you're back looks freaking shredded. The demon back is coming through!!

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks Armin, more shreds on the way!!

  • @MedicGaming563
    @MedicGaming563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    finally, the video I was waiting for

  • @victorkrvaric
    @victorkrvaric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic information, thank you AD

  • @darksteal568
    @darksteal568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Trying to get mine up currently. It's a slow and steady progress for me.

  • @SeyaDiakite7
    @SeyaDiakite7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you very much for existing alex :)

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you always for your support :)

  • @TripleEightss
    @TripleEightss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    only channels whos videos i like before watching are yours and buakaw’s channel. keep doing your thing alex!

  • @kim-andrekalleklev325
    @kim-andrekalleklev325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every one used to think you were just a little kid. I thought the same, but I allways agreed with your ideas about training.
    You are indeed one of the fitness youtubers with the most knowledge, putting out real life tips and info allmost every time 👍
    I have recently switched from push press to push jerk as my main overhead lift. My idea is to push the bar overhead by any means necassary !
    I realize that (even it does something in the delt departementet) it hits the delts to a lesser degree, so I also include "lu raises" for aestetic and shoulder mobility purposes. This seems to be a great combo, specially since my counter explosive pull day is a Barbell HighPull done "panda/Chinese" pull style..
    Keep up with the good content !! ✌️

  • @danielracz_fitness
    @danielracz_fitness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just did 90 kg (my own bodyweight) last week. I am 188 cm tall btw, so it was an absolute grinder, BUT It felt amazing to finally hit it!!

  • @RevInstone
    @RevInstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hit a 275 lbs OHP back in September. My goal is 300 lbs which is my body weight. Been a real challenge to getting here. 2 years of OHP being my primary lift.

  • @mediocritydriven3213
    @mediocritydriven3213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking really good man

  • @michaelkulman7095
    @michaelkulman7095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for not just giving 1RM's I appreciate that!

  • @colerandazzo5821
    @colerandazzo5821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alex you should do these with more compound movements like weighted pullup standards for example

  • @leccy9901
    @leccy9901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great content. Love me some overhead press, first time hitting 60kg or about 135 is a great feeling. I weigh 230lb, max press is now 210lb, so I'm nearly pressing myself. Hard to progress though.

  • @alexescobar8633
    @alexescobar8633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content bro 👍

  • @osamabinpawning123
    @osamabinpawning123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex I've been following since you started and you always know your shit!

  • @BaldOmniMan
    @BaldOmniMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The longer the arms, the lower of an OHP you need imo. That extra rom is so potent.

    • @BaldOmniMan
      @BaldOmniMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Everest_Calisthenics I’m talkin more about the size aspect

    • @ken-yo2hz
      @ken-yo2hz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does this even mean?

    • @Jay-we2ek
      @Jay-we2ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ken-yo2hzthe longer your arms, the further you have to press the weight. Say, if I made your arm span four inches longer, you'd have to press the weight further. Pushing it further is more difficult.

    • @BaldOmniMan
      @BaldOmniMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ken-yo2hz the longer your arms, the more range of motion. The more effective range of motion, the more hypertrophy. Should be fairly obvious 😂😂😂

  • @ActionSetPieces
    @ActionSetPieces 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Alex, thanks for the OHP motivation & chat! During the pandemic shutdown, gained weight up to 260lbs from eating & gaming, and hit a 260lb x 1 OHP. I've been wanting to hit 275lb OHP for a bit, so this made me happy when I was doubting if I could even come close to 275. Thanks again!

    • @stephen8996
      @stephen8996 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn

  • @Hhedge5563
    @Hhedge5563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Figured out the warmup sets.. 👌🏼 novice program is legit

  • @monirmahbub3838
    @monirmahbub3838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Really puts you in your place 🥲. Can you do one for weighted pull up and dip too pls? Both the relative and the absolute aspect for novice intermediate etc.

  • @Gnarly1212
    @Gnarly1212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    for the past two years, the goal of being able to press my bw is like chasing a dragon. I'm not saying I'm plateauing. my press has gotten so much stronger over that time, but bw has gone up too. I always seem to only be 5 pounds above my max press. I've kinda given up on that goal but I'm not giving up on increasing press strength. so my current goal is to hit a 2 plate strict press and just stop caring about bw.

    • @johnnyhandsome3424
      @johnnyhandsome3424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You need to cut and maintain strength and then bulk again. Easy fix. OHP doesn’t really decrease that much on a cut. 5 - 10 lbs max on a 20 lbs cut

    • @siddislikesgoogle
      @siddislikesgoogle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it helps, I found working on my grip strength massively activated my pressing strength both in the OHP and the bench. Also, it's always worth checking form to streamline the lift, even if you are advanced, it could make the difference you're looking for

    • @sumsar01
      @sumsar01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just press more. go 4 times a week.

    • @siddislikesgoogle
      @siddislikesgoogle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sumsar01 Id worry about recovery with such high frequency. What kind of weights are your pressing to do 4 sessions per week?

    • @jsmith7114
      @jsmith7114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sumsar01 are u trolling? LOL

  • @curgunner
    @curgunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hey Alex have you ever tried the Trap Bar OHP? It blows up my shoulders amazingly well with the deep stretch at the bottom. Loving the content man!

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yup that + swiss bar pressing is quite humbling! Only annoying part is cleaning it but with a rackable trap bar you're blessed.

  • @richardtrass
    @richardtrass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid.

  • @salmaanbarday4506
    @salmaanbarday4506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid man 🙌 hit all of those except the 1.2 times bw for 5,would be awesome to hit that in the future 💪

  • @Dave-cm3pm
    @Dave-cm3pm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Absolute powerful movement.Recently hit 80kg for 5 and i can tell you,difference between my shoulders when i did 75kg for 5 and right now with 80kg 5x...Its night and
    day.With only 5kg difference

    • @DOCFIT_09
      @DOCFIT_09 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey can you give any powerful tips for increasing the ohp ..i am jst stuck at 55 kg × 7 for so so long...and sometimes it jst decreases further...by the way i am maingaining at around 73 kg bw

    • @Dave-cm3pm
      @Dave-cm3pm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DOCFIT_09Just bulk bro.Stop that maingaining bs.And for presses like bench ,ohp..Caloric surpluss is must.And try to rotate your rep ranges,start doing 5x..triples,singles.And try new variations of ohp..Such is paused,tempo,swiss bar..

    • @DOCFIT_09
      @DOCFIT_09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dave-cm3pm thanks for your response bro... actually i am at a little bit highr body fat now probably at 20-22% so bulking for me would be jst gaining mostly body fat as my metabolism is not that fast...and i can pretty much progress in every fucking lift by eating around maintenance (may be relatively slow progress) except this ohp which is jst way harder bt i jst fucking love it !

  • @divinepipkins
    @divinepipkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You got me into doing OHP, I’ve been doing it for a few months and I recently did 175 lbs for 5 at like RPE 8 and I did 185 for 3 RPE 9.5 like two weeks before. The delt gains have been quite nice too

  • @apentibo
    @apentibo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right now only at a 45kg×8 OHP while on a 100kg×10 bench, only started training OHP less than 6 months ago but now definitely going for that 1 plate×10! Thnks for the goal man!

  • @iAMJaws
    @iAMJaws 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you alex. love the vids.

  • @archlifts947
    @archlifts947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    yeah 100x5 is elite and insanely rare and this makes even though he is juiced serge redding EASLY strict pressing 228kg 502 pounds just ungodly one of the few lifts that i would classify as beyond super-elite or world level, that lift was history making level

    • @NoMansLandFilm2013
      @NoMansLandFilm2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Insane strength, when you think about it he and other strongmen have arms stronger than most people's legs.

    • @archlifts947
      @archlifts947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoMansLandFilm2013 oh serge had forearms stronger than most peoples legs lol

    • @aidanhoneyman8544
      @aidanhoneyman8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      100kg is my deadlift 😭😭😭😭

    • @user-mg2dq4ty6c
      @user-mg2dq4ty6c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Iron biby did 280kg i think

    • @archlifts947
      @archlifts947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-mg2dq4ty6c no

  • @Issvor
    @Issvor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:40 as a guy that hit 135lbs for a single rep, I can confirm that I did not have big delts

    • @perryfitness9407
      @perryfitness9407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My current 1RM is 135lb & I think I have decent delts. However, 135 is close to my body weight so🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @maximumpower4289
      @maximumpower4289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a guy that hit 220lbs for a single rep I can confirm that my delts were pretty big.

    • @DOCFIT_09
      @DOCFIT_09 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try to hit 135 for 10-12 with proper form and watch your delts grow!

  • @juanvasquez3648
    @juanvasquez3648 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn bro just stumbled across this video and its crazy how much your arms have grown in the last 2 years :O

  • @fakecreatinerm9948
    @fakecreatinerm9948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking shredded man holy shit

  • @UseTheLess00
    @UseTheLess00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First and foremost, God bless your soul. These videos are like early Christmas for me.
    Secondly, how important is it to use a belt. I personally prefer not using anything and was wondering how much, of anything, that would change the standards from both intermediate and advanced

    • @petrinafilip96
      @petrinafilip96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it can help with setup and if you go over 100% of your capacity. Tried OHP couple of months ago while already tired and leaned back too much in setup stage and messed up my back for a couple of days. I would have probably avoided that if I was wearing a belt.

  • @vxsr33
    @vxsr33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Doing seated overhead presses on a flat bench with no back support is pretty good. That way you still have to remain completely upright for the press and it takes a lot of momentum out of the equation

  • @awaisrashid3414
    @awaisrashid3414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking freakishly amazing in the first shot

  • @julianramirez4713
    @julianramirez4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait this is the perfect video because ive been wondering exactly this for a very long time lol

  • @jtsandig
    @jtsandig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm 5'5", just under 140 pounds with a 5'8" wingspan. I got to be able to do 142.5 for 4 doubles and today I just did 97.5 pounds for a 3x12. I just treat this as my main competition movement instead of benching with a heavy and light day in the week. I reintroduced weighted dips for tricep/chest gains so hopefully that'll help me along. hoping for a 155 pound press by the end of this year. It's just my favorite lift to train and just makes the shoulders, traps, and triceps pop.

    • @aidanhoneyman8544
      @aidanhoneyman8544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      as a 5ft 5 guy myself, this comment really motivates and inspires me. good job, bro!

    • @yaywoot123
      @yaywoot123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      5'4 145ish... obviously natty.. specialized in clean and ohp for a week a bit ago.. day 1 140, day 2 145, day 3 145, day 4 off, day 5 150, day 6 150, day 7 the grindiest 155 of my life on attempt 6 or 7.. a legit rpe 10 .. dropset 135x4, failed rep 5
      it's there for you right now, especially with 142 for a dub.. i'm not saying rush to it, though
      for context my bench at time was 235 with a pause, 245 t n g

    • @maximumpower4289
      @maximumpower4289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 6ft and 240lbs I wish I could relate these were numbers I hit after 1.5 years.

    • @yaywoot123
      @yaywoot123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maximumpower4289 Naw i didn't mean it was day 1 OHP for me, I played with it for like you about a year and a half as a secondary movement (and years of benching), but then did a blast of specialization to hit a few PRs. Moved on to specializing in something else, and OHP fell back to 145. CNS training

    • @jtsandig
      @jtsandig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maximumpower4289 yeah it's been about a 1.5 years for me too to get these numbers. And I've been mostly specializing in ohp because I can't really bench at local gyms consistently since I'd need to bring a bench to a rack

  • @TheJackal159
    @TheJackal159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Any advice for a disproportionately weak OHP? I have a 445 lbs Bench but can’t seem to get past a 205 OHP even when making it my primary focus. I’m also much stronger at rep work on the OHP, with 135 x 17. My sticking point is always around eyes/nose height, and body weight is around 220. Perhaps front raises since I bench with index finger on the rings? Appreciate the content, brother!

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Damn I thought my ratio was messed up.. in your case I'd run the full on conjugate system for OHP. 100% specialization with max effort days. Mostly doing low reps/high intensity and rotating variations like banded OHP, OHP with chains, swiss bar work, pin work, etc. It's going to take a lot of work but I do think you can pull this off.

    • @mastertrey4683
      @mastertrey4683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Do the more ove had preass

    • @bonefisch6657
      @bonefisch6657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      pin press at your sticking point maybe

    • @coopaloop727272
      @coopaloop727272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How is your mobility? Maybe your lats are super tight? I found working on the mobility really helped with elbow position And lockout

    • @samthelad4313
      @samthelad4313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      To be honest, yes that ratio is fucked but in order to evaluate whether that's actually a problem or not, we have to know more about you. Are you 5'3 with short arms and a massive barrelchest ribcage? Bench press is a lot more leverage-dependent than the OHP, so having a weird bench-OHP ratio is not NECESSARILY an indicator of a "muscle imbalance", although in your case it is a pretty crazy imbalance. Not a problem though, unless you feel that it needs changing.

  • @ryandreher5378
    @ryandreher5378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex, would love if you would do another video delving into the correlation between full range hspu and ohp. Awesome stuff! Also, have you experimented with heavy kb overhead pressing (single and double bells)? They seem to be very helpful in chasing certain standards.

  • @ajdafitnessguy8021
    @ajdafitnessguy8021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is your best physique yet

  • @MominGuitarTV
    @MominGuitarTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    OHP is my favorite pressing movement, shit looks badass when you lift more weight than some people can squat. I wish I could get even stronger at it, for some reason I got stuck at 1x body weight, and plateaued hard. Been stuck at the same strength level for 2 years. Any tips?

    • @timothymanurung4835
      @timothymanurung4835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      strengthen your triceps by doing close grip bench press and do OHP 2 times a week with low reps scheme around 3-5 reps with 85-90% of your 1 rep max and high reps scheme around 6-12 reps with 60-80% of your 1 rep max, trust me you'll get stronger afterwards

    • @alexandr8163
      @alexandr8163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      start doing heavy single arm ohp as accessory lift

    • @omp365
      @omp365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      man, i'd be so pleased to be at 1x. but then i do weigh like 200+lbs.

    • @MominGuitarTV
      @MominGuitarTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timothymanurung4835 thanks bro, I'll give it a try.

    • @MominGuitarTV
      @MominGuitarTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexandr8163 strict or with leg drive?

  • @leom4588
    @leom4588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Anyone else get a nasty back pump from OHP? Am I doing it wrong?

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's normal to get an upper back pump after OHP

  • @jacoblebron5035
    @jacoblebron5035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d say Alex is pretty bang on with this one. I’ve been consistently lifting for about 14 months and I have a 1RM OHP of 135 at 160 BW. I would also like to think my shoulders are a strong body part (size wise).

  • @enigmatic7665
    @enigmatic7665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude your back looks insane!

  • @Lucas-tg3hv
    @Lucas-tg3hv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    my delts looked so much better when i treated the OHP like a primary lift

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Likewise brother, I even took a full year off benching once to level up my delts & OHP. Worked great!

    • @cankercanison92
      @cankercanison92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexLeonidas What would you recommend for someone trying to bring both lifts up?

  • @mattc4266
    @mattc4266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you a fan of the standing dumbbell ohp ?)

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a cool exercise but I don't do it that often anymore. Would rather use accommodating resistance on barbell OHP.

    • @mattc4266
      @mattc4266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexLeonidas I meant standing I edited it

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattc4266 Oh yeah standing is great, especially one arm at a time.

    • @mattc4266
      @mattc4266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexLeonidas do you post with one arm for stability

    • @loosecannon6142
      @loosecannon6142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Standing one arm dumbell OHP has become one of my favourite exercises. Feels absolutely great on the shoulder. Lean on to a power rack with one hand and and then press with the other, Sean Nalewanyj showed me this version

  • @loosecannon6142
    @loosecannon6142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back looking jacked!

  • @nathantimejardine3607
    @nathantimejardine3607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been doing about 115 for 4x8 and I thought my strength was pretty beginner. Glad that this video explained I am closer to late intermediate after specializing in OHP for a while now.

  • @TheBrick534
    @TheBrick534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This gives me even more motivation to cut about 20lbs.
    I’m only 5’7 and bulked up to 195. Realistically, I’m way above what I should be and I find my strength output has little to no change EVEN 20lbs lighter.
    So time to get shredded and have respectable lifts for size and body comp.

    • @KurokamiNajimi
      @KurokamiNajimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m 5’7 too. How much you should weigh is really just dependent on how much muscle you have. The 170 pounds standard is based on someone with below-average genetics

    • @TheBrick534
      @TheBrick534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KurokamiNajimi Nah that average male who doesn’t do fuck all, at 5’7, should realistically be somewhere between 121-158lbs.
      Unless someone’s on mad gear or has retarded genetics, generally speaking, a natty won’t really be able to “outgrow” their frame and structure to any sort of absurd amount.
      Again, there’s always outliers who are natty as well, but many people simply don’t have the patience to actually get there (10+ years of lifting).
      Me at 195lbs is around 20-22% body fat easily.
      Down at 171 I’m somewhere between 10-15% and I’m happy with that. Anything more than 185lbs at this current point, for myself, is excess body fat tbh.

  • @siddislikesgoogle
    @siddislikesgoogle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've found that trying to do volume on the OHP forces me to reduce the weight far too much, so I prefer to do heavy triples and extend the number of sets and then add skull crushers later on in the workout, as an accessory to generate more total volume (they're also as much fun to do as the OHP)

    • @BlacksmithBets
      @BlacksmithBets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Skull crushers are hitting your triceps though so your delts aren't getting any extra volume.

    • @siddislikesgoogle
      @siddislikesgoogle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlacksmithBets that's a good point. I admit to only having thought about the triceps. What accessory do you recommend to hit the delts a little more?

  • @zandergentry5076
    @zandergentry5076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn. I had never checked out this channel. Just seen some videos picking on Alex. But he has grown up and knows his stuff. Consider me impressed. I totally agree with his assessment on the OHP.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Zander, I'm glad you're enjoying the content and can look past my young & dumb stupidties.

    • @LarsRyeJeppesen
      @LarsRyeJeppesen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex is awesome

  • @dudeskinus
    @dudeskinus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been a calisthenics guy working on pike pushups and wall HSPU for ages, this time coming back from a break ive been doing OHP to bridge the gap in progressions and i started at 42.5kg 5x5, seems like i'm doing ok for a starting place with barbell work then. Happy with that!

  • @MrSasuke2222
    @MrSasuke2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Insane gains this the OHP offers if you are actually able to take the journey of getting as good as possible at it. My best is 155 x3, stopped after that but was actually planning on getting back to it very soon. Lets see what can be accomplished!

  • @yanni-duff
    @yanni-duff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your back looks great at this bodyfat and lighting

  • @pela6576
    @pela6576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love OHP. You're really lean bro and you didn't lose much size. Good job!

  • @richardrampersad7687
    @richardrampersad7687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alex lookin kinda sauced these days, goals.

  • @meekatoblerone5242
    @meekatoblerone5242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have not seen this man’s videos for like a year and a half maybe longer damn his face is leaner

  • @iridescent888
    @iridescent888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Getting leaner by the day my friend!

  • @austingeorge4888
    @austingeorge4888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really loved this video we need more videos like this sane what does a beginner advance and normal lifter

  • @nomadicstrength
    @nomadicstrength 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Weighted Dips Standards next dude!!!!

  • @binooorapscallion5552
    @binooorapscallion5552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok I just want to share this because it might help novice lifters out who struggle with ohp. I did try pause ohp, but after a while my strength stalled. I then just started to go to mid neck and I was able to add reps and weight. So give that a try if your stuck. For some people you’re going to stall with the 5x5 at around 110-115 mark (for most people I’ve talked to online). What I recommend is dropping to 3x4-6 if you can hit 3x6 or maybe even the first rep for a 7 you got that particular weight down. Also after those 3 sets strip the weight down to 55-60% and try to do 3x6-8. It helps you practice the movement which I found very helpful and it also helps your conditioning/endurance for the shoulders and ohp movement. Don’t be afraid to try out reverse pyramid training as well. See what works for you. Hopefully this could help someone

  • @TypicallyUniqueOfficial
    @TypicallyUniqueOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video.

  • @harryfeeney9249
    @harryfeeney9249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do more standard videos on the big lifts such as bench or deadlift. Great video 😈😈

  • @jimskiuk305
    @jimskiuk305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoooo, you watching me??? Everytime I have a specific isolation, a video is released after I finish.... yes today was delts hahaha. Leonidas is mystic AF

  • @mupsoftaren
    @mupsoftaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need a video for OHP/Barbell Bench on scoliosis and unsymmetrical shoulder positioning.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    great video thanks

  • @ripperduck
    @ripperduck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very eloquent. TY///

  • @carlaspinwall4247
    @carlaspinwall4247 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was shaky when I first started doing these and was hard to unrack but I soon progressed. This lift shows your weakness super fast.

  • @therealbenlurie8810
    @therealbenlurie8810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've recently started doing handstand push-ups against the wall for balance and it works the delts pretty good.

  • @Ak353-d7u
    @Ak353-d7u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today Alpha destiny earned my respect

  • @iLlamas1
    @iLlamas1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you make a standards for all the compounds movements? It would be awesome and of great help!

  • @igorveloso100
    @igorveloso100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Give us that for bench, row, pull up, squat, deads, shrugs etc. Really love to shoot for those "benchmarks" and see what my genetics will give me in return.