Oh the esr keyboard case you forgot to mention that that flap also covers the Apple Pencil and also has a slot for the Apple Pencil. As well as the case allows for portrait mode and in the case has two more positions to rise the height while in landscape as well. Thanks as always. Also if you get the 11 inch esr case it doesn’t have the function row. It would be good if you mentioned the size variant. Magic Keyboard needs a place to secure the Apple Pencil. Maybe a flap like the esr. And I would also be worried about that metal hinge being exposed and prone to scratches.
I brought ESR Rebound Keyboard for my 11” iPad Pro. It is really a cool accessory albeit it weight heavily among the 3 products reviewed here. The price point is simply comfortable to me.
I’ve had all 3 of these cases for my different iPads. My least favorite was the Logitech. Just takes up too much space on my desk. To me, the ESR is the best magic keyboard alternative on the market. Having to charge up the case periodically isn’t a huge deal. Especially considering I’m at my desk a majority of the day anyways.
The Logitech keyboard seems to take up about the same space as a regular laptop, no? Maybe a bit more if you really tilt it, since you can tilt it more than a regular MacBook.
I tried out the ESR rebound case, boxed it back up and returned it the next day. It gives my ipad pro so much weight and thickness that it weighed more than my macbook air (I mean common, the keyboard case itself felt about as if not heavier than the ipad itself)...That and the trackpad was *aweful*, it was glitchy and scrolling was far from smooth. Keyboard was ok at best, but it definitely felt a bit cramped. I want the Logitech combo touch, but some of the desks at my classes are so tiny that it would be a big hassle, that and I use it on my lap a lot too. So, needless to say, I genuinely am surprised by apple's magic keyboard, thought I'd never say this, but I think it was worth the extra money.
One thing with the Magic Keyboard. Is there a case out there that would kind of do what the logitech thing? Like a clam shell case to provide some protection. That is my main issue with it. There is literally not protection. I would thing someone came up with a clam shell with 3 dots and magnets. I would think that would work.
I regret getting the Logitech so much! I miss the apple folio keyboard that previous generations had instead of this Magic Keyboard. The Magic Keyboard isn’t great for lap use and you can’t fold the keyboard back to use like a tablet but keeping the keyboard on it. The Logitech is not good for using in lap either and you can’t even use it very well on a tv stand because with the keyboard out and the kickstand folded out it is longer than most tv stands. The touch pad on the Logitech feels like something that would come on a temu product. Any suggestions for a keyboard case similar to the Apple folio cases previous generations of iPad Pro had?
I agree! The keyboard folio was strangely just freaken awesome to use, anywhere, anytime, lap-use it was the most stable, and it flipped around...If apple would just put a dang trackpad on that, I'd be all over it. I mean undoubtedly, the magic keyboard is better, but man there is just something about that folio and not having to dismount the ipad if I wanted to use the apple pencil
I personally use Magic Keyboard with my air M1 for my school work and it work pretty well (the first gen Magic Keyboard) for typing and some basic video editing
I just love how people continually make excuses for Apple products that have flaws that they don't like and then say, "it's not a big deal for me". But when reviewing other company products, they point out flaws and then say something to the effect of, "this is really a bad design..."
@@ivansilvas You've heard the phrase "all that glitters ain't gold." Not saying Apple products are trash, not even close - heck I'm even deep in the Apple eco system, but not all of their stuff is good. I'm not blinded by all the Apple hooplah.
I bought the esr and eagerly waited. Put it on today and there’s static weird noise when scrolling and zooming stuff , when I have the case on. When I take the case off, it’s totally fine. So something definitely is up with the esr rebound case
Thanks for watching and for the feedback. The top down shot needs adjusting, it's setup typcially for phone case reviews so it was too close to the table which was why it was screwing up, lesson learnt! Appreciate the feedback.
Great round-up! I'm mostly interested in the combo touch. Could you weight only the case with the iPad without the keyboard? I'm interested how much weight the combo touch adds to the iPad in hand only mode. Thanks!
Is there anyway to protect the sides of the iPad when using the Magic Keyboard? Also with the other two, when detached, are the iPad's side buttons still accessible? Brilliant video BTW!
Thanks for the honest review. I have just ordered my new Apple Magic Keyboard on what I have seen and your review. Thank you. Many Thanks Regards Craig.
The main issue I have with logi's is the lack of an escape key. they very well could have moved the home button to replace the sleep button and then put he escape key on it, not to mention the kick stand thing is more of a pain than I had originally thought it would be since the desks I am on never have the space for the kick stand and throw the iPad right off the edge. and that apple pencil cutout at the top bothers me too not gonna lie, because when you're holding it in portrait you have one hand gripping case and the other gripping this weird hole that kinda hurts after a bit on my current pro. but also the lack of real hinges on the stand is awful, I would have loved to see it mimic the surface pro kickstand just for longevity and sturdiness as I did see that stand really flexing when you adjusted it. also, one little tip for your top down shots, turn off auto focus. like dial in your focus and keep it there, that'll get rid of auto focus freak outs when you're moving around a ton. you keep the products at a pretty consistent level so having a locked focus should not be bad for viewers.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback. The top down shot needs adjusting, it's setup typcially for phone case reviews so it was too close to the table which was why it was screwing up, lesson learnt! Appreciate the feedback.
I tried the ESR. I don’t know if it was defective or just bad, but the trackpad was awful. I kept pressing it and nothing would happen, and when it did, it was quite laggy. I ended up returning it. I like the concept of the Logitech, but I bought one a few years ago when it came out and returned it. I didn’t realize how bad it was to use on a lap (barely usable), and, when working in a small area, could barely get it to fit, because of the space that the stand (which I like) takes on the table. If you know that your space is limited, the Logitech will not be an option.
@@MichaelsTechTalk No, I didn’t. I was within return period, so just marked as returning it as defective and sent it back. And yes, sadly, the Magic Keyboard is pretty much the only one I’ve tried so far that works well, and can sit on my lap without any issues. Too bad the Logitech is not an option on that regard, because I would prefer to have all corners protected on the device.
Thank you for the review! I just picked up the 13” Pro and am looking for a good keyboard. I currently use a Brydge kb on my 10.5” Pro. What do you think of Brydge’s current offerings?
I haven’t tried a Brydge keyboard in a while, i typically prefer keyboards that use the dock connector but maybe i should pick one up and check it out…
I have one of them with magnetic case, I found that I hear the static noise around the Apple logo, is more higher, there is nothing wrong in the iPad, I don’t know if magnetic cases won’t harm the iPad
It needs a quite room, put your ear on the middle before putting it in and after You will hear it, as I have another iPad Pro 2023, same low static noise , I was going to send the 2024 to service but I cancelled it and returned the case
Agree. I did get the Magic Keyboard (having used the Logitech previously and found the keyboard a bit flimsy and fidgety when typing, but it was nice to be able to remove the keyboard), but I tend to use a drawing lap desk that tilts when I draw, so I lay the iPad flat on it. I do use a keyboard more than I thought I would…using it now. The lack of protection when off the Magic Keyboard is a con. I have an ESR folio, which works fine when I’m on the go and don’t have my drawing desk…but is an extra cost.
Hello there, May i ask for review on this 3 keyboard base on one particular software ?? Lightroom Ipad 1. while using Lightroom ipad version, does this all 3 keyboard functionality well ? 2. while inside the Lightroom ipad, is the DELETE button can really remove the photos one by one or it does not work out ? thanks
I assume you mean can you just use the keyboard without using the case? If so, no you can't. The keyboard connects via the dock connector on the iPad which connects using the case.
@@MichaelsTechTalk ya but there a lot of the older 3rd party keyboards that have functions keys for the 11inch. I guess I’ll just have to wait for other keyboards to come out
Quick request -- turning off autofocus on the overhead camera would be really helpful for those of us watching at faster than 1x.... it's very distracting.
My 13” M4 iPad Pro Magic Keyboard does not wobble like yours. The hinge on mine is rock solid. Maybe I have a really strong one, or maybe you have a really weak one.
I think you have misunderstood. It doesn’t wobble, the hinge isn’t entirely flush with the flat bottom of the case which is turn shifts the weight balance of the iPad when it’s at a certain angle. When you tap the iPad when it’s at that angle it seems like it will tip over.
old Logitech Combo Touch for the 11 inch M1 iPad Pro is compatible with new 11 inch iPad pro M4 ? or only the new one for the 11inch M4 iPad Pro is compatible with the 11inch inch M4 iPad Pro ? On the contrary the new Logitech Combo Touch 2024 is compatible with the old 11 inch M1 iPad Pro ??
I want to ask you that, because I have an old 11 M1 iPad Pro Logitech combo touch case and I want to buy the new M4 iPad Pro 11 inch. So if the old Logitech case is compatible with the new m4 11 inch iPad Pro, I don't buy the new Logitech combo touch case for the new m4 iPad 11 inch.
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Can I bend the Apple keyboard backwards when I don’t want to use the keyboard
Oh the esr keyboard case you forgot to mention that that flap also covers the Apple Pencil and also has a slot for the Apple Pencil. As well as the case allows for portrait mode and in the case has two more positions to rise the height while in landscape as well. Thanks as always. Also if you get the 11 inch esr case it doesn’t have the function row. It would be good if you mentioned the size variant. Magic Keyboard needs a place to secure the Apple Pencil. Maybe a flap like the esr. And I would also be worried about that metal hinge being exposed and prone to scratches.
I brought ESR Rebound Keyboard for my 11” iPad Pro. It is really a cool accessory albeit it weight heavily among the 3 products reviewed here. The price point is simply comfortable to me.
Nice! Glad you like it.
I’ve had all 3 of these cases for my different iPads. My least favorite was the Logitech. Just takes up too much space on my desk. To me, the ESR is the best magic keyboard alternative on the market. Having to charge up the case periodically isn’t a huge deal. Especially considering I’m at my desk a majority of the day anyways.
Agreed on the Logitech! Its footprint is massive on a desk.
The Logitech keyboard seems to take up about the same space as a regular laptop, no? Maybe a bit more if you really tilt it, since you can tilt it more than a regular MacBook.
I tried out the ESR rebound case, boxed it back up and returned it the next day. It gives my ipad pro so much weight and thickness that it weighed more than my macbook air (I mean common, the keyboard case itself felt about as if not heavier than the ipad itself)...That and the trackpad was *aweful*, it was glitchy and scrolling was far from smooth. Keyboard was ok at best, but it definitely felt a bit cramped. I want the Logitech combo touch, but some of the desks at my classes are so tiny that it would be a big hassle, that and I use it on my lap a lot too. So, needless to say, I genuinely am surprised by apple's magic keyboard, thought I'd never say this, but I think it was worth the extra money.
I definitely am a Magic Keyboard user, but it’s all about budget at the end of the day.
@@MichaelsTechTalk very true, and all of which are good for the price
One thing with the Magic Keyboard. Is there a case out there that would kind of do what the logitech thing? Like a clam shell case to provide some protection. That is my main issue with it. There is literally not protection. I would thing someone came up with a clam shell with 3 dots and magnets. I would think that would work.
The closest thing to that is Pitakas Folio and MagEZ case. The MagEZ case is Magic Keyboard compatible. Check out my thin cases video 👍🏻
I regret getting the Logitech so much! I miss the apple folio keyboard that previous generations had instead of this Magic Keyboard. The Magic Keyboard isn’t great for lap use and you can’t fold the keyboard back to use like a tablet but keeping the keyboard on it. The Logitech is not good for using in lap either and you can’t even use it very well on a tv stand because with the keyboard out and the kickstand folded out it is longer than most tv stands. The touch pad on the Logitech feels like something that would come on a temu product. Any suggestions for a keyboard case similar to the Apple folio cases previous generations of iPad Pro had?
I'll look into it 👍
I agree! The keyboard folio was strangely just freaken awesome to use, anywhere, anytime, lap-use it was the most stable, and it flipped around...If apple would just put a dang trackpad on that, I'd be all over it. I mean undoubtedly, the magic keyboard is better, but man there is just something about that folio and not having to dismount the ipad if I wanted to use the apple pencil
I personally use Magic Keyboard with my air M1 for my school work and it work pretty well (the first gen Magic Keyboard) for typing and some basic video editing
Thanks for sharing!
Nice one! You’re not wrong about the Magic Keyboard… it is pricey but unmatched from what I’ve tried so far.
It really is! Pricy but it is the best!
I just love how people continually make excuses for Apple products that have flaws that they don't like and then say, "it's not a big deal for me". But when reviewing other company products, they point out flaws and then say something to the effect of, "this is really a bad design..."
It’s because aesthetics and build quality play a big role in how much we feel about something.
What excuses did i make for Apple? Pretty sure i pointed out flaws with the Magic Keyboard...
@@ghas4151 Just b/c something looks and feels good doesn't mean it's all good.
@@neostephens8980Just because something looks and feels good and people think is good and is good doesn’t mean it’s all good LOL
@@ivansilvas You've heard the phrase "all that glitters ain't gold." Not saying Apple products are trash, not even close - heck I'm even deep in the Apple eco system, but not all of their stuff is good. I'm not blinded by all the Apple hooplah.
Is there a case I can put on my iPad that will still allow me to connect to the Magic keyboard?
Yeah there are a few cases, i'm looking at picking them up for a video so watch this space.
@@MichaelsTechTalk perfect! Ill be looking out for the vid!
I bought the esr and eagerly waited. Put it on today and there’s static weird noise when scrolling and zooming stuff , when I have the case on. When I take the case off, it’s totally fine. So something definitely is up with the esr rebound case
Oh dang.. def get in touch with ESR to get it sorted.
Minor feedback for your video, when you introduced things into the frame, the camera trying to autofocus in and out was a little distracting haha.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
The top down shot needs adjusting, it's setup typcially for phone case reviews so it was too close to the table which was why it was screwing up, lesson learnt! Appreciate the feedback.
Great round-up! I'm mostly interested in the combo touch. Could you weight only the case with the iPad without the keyboard? I'm interested how much weight the combo touch adds to the iPad in hand only mode. Thanks!
Sure, the weight is as follows:
iPad Pro: 579g
Combo Touch Case without the keyboard attached: 291g
Combined weight, 870g
You can mitigate the fingerprints from the Magic Keyboard by skinning the keyboard. That is my recommendation.
Nah, hate skins on devices. Not for me.
That’s a thought - wonder if dbrand does keyboard skins
Is there anyway to protect the sides of the iPad when using the Magic Keyboard? Also with the other two, when detached, are the iPad's side buttons still accessible? Brilliant video BTW!
You can get cases that are compatible with the magic keyboard that can protect the sides. Pitaka does a good one.
That's bugging me too. Wish the apple keyboard covered the sides/edges.
I wrote to Pitaka and they said that in the 2nd half of June that they should have the Magic Keyboard compatible case.
@@TheHUhelps yup! Looking forward to it arriving.
Switch easy coverbuddy had them too for previous iPad’s. Can’t find any for the iPad Pro m4 which is compatible with the Magic Keyboard 🥲
Do you have a review on the Zagg rugg book for the iPad Pro m4
No i don't at this stage.
I use the iPad mainly for writing as in a notebook. It seems like the apple keyboard can't work then right?
Yeah the Magic Keyboard wouldn't be a good fit tbh.
Thanks for the honest review. I have just ordered my new Apple Magic Keyboard on what I have seen and your review. Thank you. Many Thanks Regards Craig.
Thanks for watching, hope you enjoy it!
The main issue I have with logi's is the lack of an escape key. they very well could have moved the home button to replace the sleep button and then put he escape key on it, not to mention the kick stand thing is more of a pain than I had originally thought it would be since the desks I am on never have the space for the kick stand and throw the iPad right off the edge. and that apple pencil cutout at the top bothers me too not gonna lie, because when you're holding it in portrait you have one hand gripping case and the other gripping this weird hole that kinda hurts after a bit on my current pro. but also the lack of real hinges on the stand is awful, I would have loved to see it mimic the surface pro kickstand just for longevity and sturdiness as I did see that stand really flexing when you adjusted it. also, one little tip for your top down shots, turn off auto focus. like dial in your focus and keep it there, that'll get rid of auto focus freak outs when you're moving around a ton. you keep the products at a pretty consistent level so having a locked focus should not be bad for viewers.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
The top down shot needs adjusting, it's setup typcially for phone case reviews so it was too close to the table which was why it was screwing up, lesson learnt! Appreciate the feedback.
I tried the ESR. I don’t know if it was defective or just bad, but the trackpad was awful. I kept pressing it and nothing would happen, and when it did, it was quite laggy. I ended up returning it.
I like the concept of the Logitech, but I bought one a few years ago when it came out and returned it. I didn’t realize how bad it was to use on a lap (barely usable), and, when working in a small area, could barely get it to fit, because of the space that the stand (which I like) takes on the table. If you know that your space is limited, the Logitech will not be an option.
Yeah if you want to use on your laptop the magic keyboard style of case is your option. Did you contact ESR about the faulty unit?
@@MichaelsTechTalk No, I didn’t. I was within return period, so just marked as returning it as defective and sent it back. And yes, sadly, the Magic Keyboard is pretty much the only one I’ve tried so far that works well, and can sit on my lap without any issues. Too bad the Logitech is not an option on that regard, because I would prefer to have all corners protected on the device.
Thank you for the review! I just picked up the 13” Pro and am looking for a good keyboard. I currently use a Brydge kb on my 10.5” Pro. What do you think of Brydge’s current offerings?
I haven’t tried a Brydge keyboard in a while, i typically prefer keyboards that use the dock connector but maybe i should pick one up and check it out…
I have one of them with magnetic case, I found that I hear the static noise around the Apple logo, is more higher, there is nothing wrong in the iPad, I don’t know if magnetic cases won’t harm the iPad
Strange, i haven't heard anything with mine.
It needs a quite room, put your ear on the middle before putting it in and after
You will hear it, as I have another iPad Pro 2023, same low static noise , I was going to send the 2024 to service but I cancelled it and returned the case
Oh yes . And sorry you need to restart the device and hear it when you see the Apple logo
Me too! The esr?? It was so perfect until I noticed this. When u take the case off, the static stops
So which one should be good in all angle
They're all good for angles. Depends on your budget and what other features are important to you.
Ah, I don’t like those rubber materials neither and I don’t understand why they have some sort of renaissance
Agreed.
Thanks for the info. The Logitech case looks perfect for artists. The Magic Keyboard is great, but sucks for setting up to draw. 👍
Agreed, the Magic Keyboard wouldn’t be the best option for drawing.
Agree. I did get the Magic Keyboard (having used the Logitech previously and found the keyboard a bit flimsy and fidgety when typing, but it was nice to be able to remove the keyboard), but I tend to use a drawing lap desk that tilts when I draw, so I lay the iPad flat on it. I do use a keyboard more than I thought I would…using it now. The lack of protection when off the Magic Keyboard is a con. I have an ESR folio, which works fine when I’m on the go and don’t have my drawing desk…but is an extra cost.
Does ESR trackpad provide the multi-touch as apple keyboard & logi do?
Do you mean like using two fingers to swipe for the apps gesture?
@@MichaelsTechTalk Yes, all gestures with two, three fingers!
Hello there, May i ask for review on this 3 keyboard base on one particular software ?? Lightroom Ipad
1. while using Lightroom ipad version, does this all 3 keyboard functionality well ?
2. while inside the Lightroom ipad, is the DELETE button can really remove the photos one by one or it does not work out ?
thanks
Sorry I’m not a lightroom user at present.
Can you use the Logitech Combo Touch without attaching the back case to the iPad?
I assume you mean can you just use the keyboard without using the case? If so, no you can't. The keyboard connects via the dock connector on the iPad which connects using the case.
I bought white Magic Keyboard and iPad Pro m4 nano texture glass perfect combo but fk expensive
Nice!!
Where’s the pencil alternatives video?
It's in the works
The case for the ESR is just for 12.9inch iPads??
No, they do an 11 inch version too: amzn.to/3WGZzgw
Why doesn’t the 11inch esr keyboard case have function keys like the 13 inch?
I would imagine it’s due to the size.
@@MichaelsTechTalk ya but there a lot of the older 3rd party keyboards that have functions keys for the 11inch. I guess I’ll just have to wait for other keyboards to come out
Nicely done review!
Glad you liked it!
Quick request -- turning off autofocus on the overhead camera would be really helpful for those of us watching at faster than 1x.... it's very distracting.
Already been done 👍🏻
I hope they bring back the Smart Folio keyboard.
If they do i’ll definitely check it out.
Some nice cases , but you can’t beat Apples one even tho is expensive, nice review on them 😎
Apple’s one wobbles when you touch it
Very true, the Apple keyboard is close to being perfect but needs a bit of adjustment.
@@MichaelsTechTalk for sure especially when it’s falling back when you use the touch screen
I got the 11 inch. 13 seemed too big for me. I want portability. The keyboards are expensive. 500AUD. Wtf!
Fair play, the 11 inch is too small for me.
My 13” M4 iPad Pro Magic Keyboard does not wobble like yours. The hinge on mine is rock solid. Maybe I have a really strong one, or maybe you have a really weak one.
I think you have misunderstood. It doesn’t wobble, the hinge isn’t entirely flush with the flat bottom of the case which is turn shifts the weight balance of the iPad when it’s at a certain angle. When you tap the iPad when it’s at that angle it seems like it will tip over.
old Logitech Combo Touch for the 11 inch M1 iPad Pro is compatible with new 11 inch iPad pro M4 ? or only the new one for the 11inch M4 iPad Pro is compatible with the 11inch inch M4 iPad Pro ? On the contrary the new Logitech Combo Touch 2024 is compatible with the old 11 inch M1 iPad Pro ??
I want to ask you that, because I have an old 11 M1 iPad Pro Logitech combo touch case and I want to buy the new M4 iPad Pro 11 inch. So if the old Logitech case is compatible with the new m4 11 inch iPad Pro, I don't buy the new Logitech combo touch case for the new m4 iPad 11 inch.
I would doubt that it's compatible due to the physcial differences between the M1 and the M4.
Hey first vid of yours i am watching. Tech fan and a Wrestling fan???? 😂🎉
Guilty as charged! 😂
Greta collection of cases
It is!
I think I like the typecase keyboard case for less money.
Nice!
There’s no Apple lovers and Apple haters.
Only affordable and non-affordable.
Sure..
Bro, I can I send you an SF Giants hat? Haha :)
😂
The autofocus was enough for me to move on
Thanks for dropping by.
Why in the world did Tim Cook kill the Apple fabric keyboard. It is still perfect. Tim Cook needs to be fired! Yesterday!
Fabric is a no no for me. As least with the silicone you can see the dirt to clean. Fabric just absorbs it.
@@MichaelsTechTalk it’s not really fabric, it’s just textured. I had that keyboard and cleaning was no different than silicon.
I tried, I tried.. The camera focus is so bad though
Sorry to hear, has since been fixed.
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The balance being off on the Magic Keyboard is an instant deal breaker. Gross
It's not a factor when using it on a desk but if you like to use a Magic Keyboard on your lap then it's definitely a deal breaker.
why should anyone use ipad with keyboard in daily basis , go with macbook alot easier n more productive too.
Each to their own, there’s plenty i do on my iPad that the Mac doesn’t do and vice versa.
iPod Pro??
Thats the first thing i heard, and even the subtitles say iPod 😂
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Keyboard KISS?! WTF?!
Eh?
@@MichaelsTechTalk nevermind
Bro is awful at keeping his camera focused
Apologies, i only have two hands and as you could see they were busy.. 😂
Auto focus sucks😢
Apologies, i only have two hands and as you can see they were busy.. 😂
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