The Scary Side Of Raw Feeding
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I'd say the scariest thing about raw feeding is going to bed at night and finding that your dog "dug" a raw chicken foot under your pillow and realizing you have to completely remake your bed. 😅😰 😭
Ok that's certainly horrifying lol. I totally know that feeling though because ferrets are notorious for stashing raw parts anywhere they can lol
Omg my dog too she loves to hid her things
i found a leftover raw meaty bone in front of the toliet the other day 😂
That's why my dogs are fed outside 😂
Why do you let your dog sleep with you in the bed?
I think your channel is turning into a very balanced, inclusive place. With information that people from all different Rawfeeding views can use.
What's really scary is how ignorant animal owners can be, to believe that their animal can live off of 1 kind of meat
I think commercial companies have a lot to answer for in regards to that one due to enforcing the idea their pet needs nothing else aside from *this* feed, along with personal laziness.
I literally only eat red meat (steak) and eggs on the carnivore diet and I'm the healthiest I've ever been. I'm sure dogs do fine too on a single meat. Dogs are carnivores too they eat meat. It's really that simple.
But what do you think animals in the wild? Do you think they're thinking, hmm, I'm gonna kill a chicken today?" Most animals in the wild eat the same thing. That's nature. It is very simple. The idea of "variety" was created by food industries so we can buy more of their food.
I’ve learned a ton from your videos. I source as much variety as I can. Then when it’s prep time try to stick roughly to the 80/10/10 ratios, making sure to include a second secreting organ, some muscular organs, protein from more than one animal, and fish. Usually I add some toppers, picking at random from pureed veggies, berries, yogurt, seeds, eggs, kelp, coconut oil, sunflower oil, etc. I figure it’s the same strategy I use to feed myself and my daughter. Stick to general balancing guidelines, include variety, make a point of including nutrient dense foods. Hope for the best!
the ending was especially important as unfortunately i have found myself judging others and myself too harshly for not balancing meals correctly, but mostly out of fear for the animals health, so thank you sooo much for this friendly reminder to be kinder to ourselves and others so the world can be kinder to animals
I’m so proud of how far your channel has gone and how much your views have changed throughout the years. I’ve been following you since the beginning of your channel and have been subscribed since!
You're so sweet 🥲 I really appreciate it!
I live in Alberta Canada and there is at least 5 companies who make a premade raw they advertise as complete a& balanced when the recipe only has a muscle meat. liver & aground bone sometimes with veggies.
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I have found an amazing meat supplier which supplies for zoo's and carnivores, they have already pre mixed and frozen complete dog menus (example 33% lamb,35%beef,32%chicken) and they are in 70% meat 15% bones 15%offal ratio, they also have different animal meat combinations too along with some natural suppliments and oils to top with, raw chews,body parts,treats etc , so i usually use that meat combo mix as a base then add some steamed veggies, egg, fish,yoghurt, or various different stuff to make it more interesting for the doggos to eat. Im definately not measuring each and every one thing anymore because I tried that (even with your formulator) and i ended up being stressed out constantly
That's amazing!!!
Oh gosh this is taking me back to when I first started home prepping over 30 years ago, it was the cusp of when people were replacing all foodstuffs with kibble then and anyone 'old fashioned' (note; poorer) who couldn't afford commercial started to be pushed and stressed intensely that they couldn't possibly do it right.
I was a kid back then so of course I was being led astray then I became the local "home prep weirdo"...until 2007 and was suddenly a saint that beat the system, nowadays I reference others to your channel because your sensibilities are both refreshing and destressing as you keep away from alarmism.
Just wish we had access to gems like this channel when I was a kid! /grumbles/
But I'm SO GLAD home prep is alive and well.
I LOVE your channel. It's helped me balance my meals and understand that it doesn't need to be perfect every single day. I live in a location where I cannot get a ton of different organs/meats. There's no game here, mainly because there are no deer or sheep on this island. But your videos have helped alleviate my fears of this and given me ways to expand their diets with what I have available. The oysters/mussles tip has been invaluable. Something that is not talked about and even frowned upon in my raw feeding groups on FB. In fact they fall under the end of your video where they criticize anyone from deviating from what they think is right. If it's not a pure 80-10-10 then it's wrong. Thanks to your knowledge and insight, I know that that isn't exactly the case and the food should be supplemented with things like eggs, tripe, mussels, etc. I've taken 3 of my pets for blood work (for dental cleanings) and all three came back with readings. So I know that they are getting what they need.
Awww this really means so much to me, thank you for telling me that! So happy to hear your pups are doing well on their raw diet as well
This is a great video and topic! I really appreciate your open mindedness, and your approach to make raw feeding as accessible as possible without sacrificing common sense or safety. It’s honestly the biggest reason I recommend this channel to everyone starting out! You said something along these lines recently (paraphrasing so forgive me!), but essentially that you’re not afraid of being wrong, you’re afraid of being obstinate and unable to learn/ change. That is SO important and rare these days. Happy Halloween!
Awwww thank you so much! Yes it's something that I have to constantly remind myself for sure. Happy Halloweeeeen!
Please would people critique this
I am a beginner at raw feeding and need help, please feel free to criticize or flame me. I need to learn.
My two cats are 1 year old and weigh 3.7 and 4.5 kg and they eat as follows
200g each per day (3 meals 65g each per day).
The only food they eat is made in a 10 kg batch then frozen, 400g in each plastic container. One taken out of the freezer per day.
This lasts for one month and takes about 3 hours in total to buy chop and weigh out.
30% pork steak from the leg.
10% chicken/ turkey breast
10% beef steak cheap cut
15% heart
10% tongue/lung/gizzard/spleen
5% liver
5% kidney/brain
10% turkey neck/chicken neck/ rabbit ribs
5% sardines/mackerel/muscals/ mixed fruit of the sea.
Then add
Chia seed
chopped spinach
mixed ground berries
kelp powder
vitamin E drops
omega 3 fish oil from capsules
12 raw eggs (yolk only)
It is cheaper than prepared cat food and they seem to be in good health.
Is this missing anything?
Anything I should leave out?
Will this possibly lead to health problems down the line?
Thank you in advance.
Chia seeds, spinach, and berries really aren't necessary for a cat, but not harmful as long as it's fed in small amounts. The fish oil isn't necessary when feeding sardines and mackerel. Spleen should be lumped with the kidney and brain as it's also a secreting organ, not muscular organ. But that's a pretty good recipe with a lot of variety! I'd have to know exactly how much of each addition (like kelp) you're feeding to know for sure if any of those are fed in excess, though.
@@PawsofPrey
Thank you so much for your reply and in general for all the information you supply.
I guess that I have tried to overcomplicate the recipe, I figured that I could replace the skin, head and tail of live prey (which I cant get here- or fur or feathers) with some constituents which would add the fiber that is missing from the lack of those.
I add these to the 10kg mix and they work out at.
1g of chai seed per cat per day. 0.035 oz to add a bit of fiber.
2g of spinach per cat per day 0.07oz I see them eating grass outside.
2g of mixed ground berries per cat per day 0.07oz but I guess thinking about it that cats don't need phytonutrients.
I will not add these in future if you think that they are unnecessary.
Thank you for the point about spleen, I typed that in the wrong place.
I add 3 drops of vitamin E oil per cat every other day.
The omega 3 oil gives them 100mg of epa and 100mg of dha per cat per day. I will drop this unless you tell me not to.
The kelp I add once a week at 1g per cat per week 0.035oz I am scared of them developing hyperthyroidism if too much.
I also forgot to mention that I add wheatgrass also at the same 1g per cat per week.
Please advise and I will adjust accordingly. and once again thank you for all you do for us.
5:00 Not by my veterinarians, but I've been criticized a few times. However, I always hit back with the fact that kibble has only been around since the 1950s and dogs have been around for 30,000 years. So what were we feeding them then? That usually helps people understand pretty quickly.
I met an old guy who said he rescued this cockatoo. I was pleased to hear this but I became very worried when he told me what he fed it. Coffee and Peanut Butter with bread. I would try to educate him on better choices and ways to introduce them but he was persistent that he "saved" the bird and knew best. There was a younger lady with him that spoke little English and she seemed very curious in what I was saying about the Cockatoo's diet. She was happy to take home the list of pointers that I wrote down for her and continue to try to explain to him why he should not give his bird those things anymore. She came back and thanked me and said he still doesn't listen but she gives the Cockatoo better food options now.
I've just started raw feeding and am still in the transition stage I suppose. I feed my cats a high quality high protein kibble, a pre made raw cat food and extras like salmon oil, sprats, dried pure meat treats, egg and instant pet broths, raw offal and meat scraps to name a few. And I'm still having to feed them commercial wet pet food, unfortunately I might not get to feed them a full raw diet since my parents and sister help with feeding them (I can't always feed them in the mornings) and they don't want to touch the raw stuff with a ten foot poll. It's also really heard to feed Cats a raw diet in my part of the uk, we're apparently only just coming to tes with feeding dogs raw and well I think we're miles behind in cat care 😅. For example I can't find freeze dried or even air dreid raw food to use like kibble and all online stores won't ship to my end of the world 😅 if I could find one I think it would solve the cats breakfast.
Tysm for making the cheat sheets accessible for everyone, I really appreciate it! I just started feeding my yorkie a raw diet and she’s doing well :D
Of course! And yay that's great :)
It is scary, in my case I dont find any supplements that she indicates here in Brazil, I use a commercial supplement that seems to have what is missing (and even more like calcium and he eats bones) but I am still not sure his food is complete, some of the ingredients I don't find or my cat doesn't accept like blue mussels.
But I can't go back to the kibble, I see how he suffer, he seems always hungry and he asks for his meat so I am trying to do my best with what I have. However the fear of him getting sick because of me is real.
I'm sorry :( for members of the Paws of Prey Club, I take a look at recipes, supplements, and answer any questions or concerns owners have, so if you need some help/reassurance that's an option! You can cancel any time.
i love this video so much, really eased my mind, i feel like this is something we all need to hear about raw feeding
Hi! Love your channel! Right now I feed a premade grind (alternate between chicken/beef and venison) and add in salmon, chicken wing or neck, raw egg and sometimes ground turkey or sardines. I also supplement with the Earth Animal Complete Raw supplement, do you have any thoughts on this supplement? It’s basically a powder derived from natural foods like kelp, oysters, etc. I’m hoping it can fill any holes in her diet since like you said, premades sometimes aren’t totally complete. I do try to get premades that include all the organs and bones though!
Im glad to say im definitely more on the perfectionist side of thing's. Your videos have been the best source of knowledge throughout my raw journey. I truly dont know where id be or what id be feeding them without your content. Genuinely thank you for making it. The only thing thats scary for me is worrying about my dog getting the nutrients she needs every day. Shes EXTREMELY picky. We have to buy her a new or different food almost every week because she stops eating what we give her after a couple days of eating a new or recycled food. Ive slowly tried to get her on a raw diet but she refuses to eat most organ meat. Mainly liver and kidney. She loves chicken wings and pork and she'll even eat stuff like chicken necks sometimes. Obviously knowing she cant live off of those few things we buy her commercial raw food or freeze dried. We've tried just about every food out there. She continually rejects them after a couple days. Ill put the bowl in front of her and she just stares at me. I dont understand it and its extremely frustrating but shes worth the trouble. I just worry about her health and want her to get what she needs. And at this point im running out of options. I just dont know what to do to get her to continue to eat the food we buy her or how to get her to eat the raw parts she rejects.
I have a standard poodle who is extremely picky also. I tried different dog foods and it was very frustrating to find something she would eat. First I started adding lightly scrambled eggs to her dry food. I had to literally use my hands to smoosh the egg all over the dry or she would pick out the eggs and leave the rest. I’ve added bone broth, snubbed that. She will drink bone broth in a bowl, by itself. Since she doesn’t like dry food, I transitioned her to raw, she likes hamburger meat and steaks. Didn’t like organ meats at all. I would have to hammer the chicken wings and chicken feet , so she could break the bones easier. Then she started not liking them. I finally figured out that she likes her food a little cooked. Still not an organ meat lover, but I chop the organ meat into small pieces and mix it into cooked ground beef. I heat up her chicken wings and feet in pork fat, tallow, just enough to give it that flavor but not cook the bones. She isn’t crazy for raw eggs either, that’s why I either scramble them or cook over med. She loves the raw bones with marrow. I found she liked cooked thighs also. I do give her sardines with skin and bones, canned tuna, and salmon. Just tonight, she ate the ground beef and a little canned salmon and left most of the salmon behind, which my lab was all to happy to gobble up. Lol for calcium, I grind egg shells into a powder and put some in the ground beef. Not all the time, only when I run out of bone in fish, chicken wings and feet. I’m certain if she was starving she would eat anything. Dogs do need protein and fat for energy. Yes I do cook for my dogs and find it very satisfying, knowing that they are eating healthier and can eat most of what I eat. I certainly can’t take the smell of dry dog food or canned. They are eating less preservatives. I find that I don’t give them any treats like I used to either. Unless of course I’m eating in front of them Lol. I have noticed too that, they are not eating grass like they did before. Good luck to you and remember you can do this for even the pickiest eater.
You're so sweet, I'm happy to hear my videos have been helpful
Have you tried freeze dried raw? My picky dog liked the Stella and Chewy’s chicken patties, she does eat a mostly fresh raw premade grind with some add in’s like salmon, chicken wings/necks, eggs, etc. but there was a time where she preferred the freeze dried raw. I found that she really loved the S & C and you can even crack a raw egg over to moisten instead of using water which makes it even more palatable. Eventually she started eating her fresh raw again so I just use it sometimes, but it definitely helped during her picky adolescent stage!
I noticed my 13 year old dog started to have cheeto paws when I started feeding her raw is there something I’m doing wrong? Can you comment a little more about Cheeto paws? Allergy perhaps. Thanks
Often the people that are stressing the balanced, every single meal concept, have a financial dog in the race so to speak. They want to sell you recipes, they want to sell you formulation services.
Those are the three sides I get hate from. People who think a dog will die if it receives 2.5 mg of copper instead of 3 mg, people who dont bother to balance at all and are upset I just overcomplicate things and raw food stores that offer premade raw as complete and balanced yet it isnt.
I tried downloading your cheat sheet on your website, but it was not sending it to my email. it went off of your website and some coding appeared. hope it gets fixed soon! love your channel and all that you do in educating the public about raw feeding!
Some emails it can be finicky with! Email me and I can send it to you personally!
Thank you for the awesome content on your channel. I agree that we need to help eachother gain knowledge! Im just starting my dog and cat on thier raw diet, and i can see im going to have to wing it at first. Niether pet even Knew what to do w/ a chicken paw, and i bought a big pack of them....But im still going back and trying to see what else i can try. Take care.
Guys, is a dark stool something to worry about when raw feeding? my kitten is playful and has a really good appetite but her stool got darker compared to how it was while dry feeding her
Likely fine. With fewer inappropriate carbs in her diet, poops should be smaller and darker.
In raw feeding, a darker stool is usually indicative that a lot of organ meat or red meats were in the meal
@@PawsofPrey but I’m now only giving her chicken ;(
Loved this video. So well said.
In another topic can I ask why my senior dog started brown staining around her eyes and mouth, after I started raw feeding? She also have soft, smelly stools 😢. I have adjusted her diet following your advice but I feel something is missing. Plz plz plz can you make a video to help us with this issue?? Thanks
I really can't say for sure without more information on your dog, the diet, and other environmental factors! You're welcome to shoot me an email or join the Paws of Prey Club and I can see if we can figure out why it may be happening
I have not tried this personally, but I have heard that feeding a few blueberries every day will help with stains. I hope you find a solution!
If you’re nervous for raw can I still cook it instead ?
I want to feed my 3 kitties raw, but i also know i dont have the time to prep and research on providing a balanced diet; so right now I am mixing kibble (no purina brand) and i top with wet food and give them raw when i can! Always mixing it up because what worries me long term is nutritional deficiencies.
The download link isn't working for me. Is there any other way to download the cat cheat sheet?
What is the opinion out there regarding Know Better powder supplement for raw and cooked meat home made diets? TIA
Can you make a video about picking dogs or linked to one if already have one. My dog is super picky he won't eat anything other muscle meats or chicken hearts. He won't touch sardines or claims or eggs.
Mine is picky too! He doesn't like any organ meat (apart from chicken hearts), won't eat organs in pre made mixes or DIY. I am now giving him a good quality kibble so he gets the nutrition from that and he has to eat that first, then I give him raw muscle meat, raw meaty bones and free flow mince mixes which he will eat frozen. He gets as much of the raw as he wants (AFTER eating his kibble), and it seems to be working for now.....
My preference would be to feed 100% raw, but I've learned to feed the dog that I have.... who seems to know what he wants.
@@SimplyIntoMyNAILS what dog kibble brand are you using?
@brianvelasquez3759 I'm in the UK and feed Millies Wolfheart. My dog and I both prefer raw....but unfortunately my boy thinks raw is 'treats' so only wants the choice cuts. Such a Diva!!!
Heavy on the pre-made I bought a pre-made I think it’s called raw dynamic and it’s ingredients said beef heart, beef liver and beef bone and that all beef I saw there. I was like Wth that’s not even half of what I feed with my homemade recipes.
Ok yikes! No muscle meat at all....sigh. I'm scared to know how much copper is in that food considering a large chunk of it is liver.
The download was not free but I tried to buy for my cats and a dog, but the system didn't go through for some reason... Could you please check?? Thanks,
The cheatsheet is free! Did you not receive the email with it? You do also get an email about the formulator being discounted for those who get the cheatsheet, but that's a different resource. If you're having trouble just email me and I can help you out!
I didn't receive back anything...😢 I'll try to find your
email address then. Thanks,
idk if dry food is healthier than ground beef, egg shells, and green beans... even humans can thrive off of nothing but red meat... i think it's likely the dog passed from something else. i feed my dog ground beef, eggs/egg shells, broccoli/carrot, potatoes, rice, coconut milk, raw chicken neck, and some beef liver/heart and she is fantastically healthy. this is more than the owner from your video but honestly it's often just ground beef, eggs, and potatoes that i feed her. dry dog food is filled with carcinogens and metabolism destroyers and it is not healthier than 3 whole food ingredients.
My cat always get sick after getting raw food for a week, what do i do wrong
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Is there any limit to let dogs fast of feel hungry?
I can't believe you still have a TI-83 🤣
lol! It's my boyfriend's that he's had since university
@@PawsofPrey hahahhahaha i died when i saw that. but also mood. You need those graphing calculators for raw feeding 🤣
@@iluvmyblankie lol I only used it for the video, I can't stand that it doesn't have a backlit screen 🤣
Even cooked dog meals.
How expensive is this style of feeding?
it's more expensive than commercial food, but it's so worth it. Your pet will be healthy and happy. I do buy the main proteins at costco (ground beef, pork, bison and chicken etc) and the organs (hearts, liver, brains, chicken feet and necks etc ) at asian or latin markets
You can make it relatively cheap or super expensive depending on what proteins you feed and where you source! I have a few cost and sourcing videos on my channel :)
To me it’s way cheaper than commercial food especially pre-made raw dog food ofc it’s not cheaper than kibble but benefit outweigh price.
@@PawsofPrey I wonder what the cost of this lifestyle for pets costs from region to region in the US.
I live in central Midwest, sourcing for animal proteins at butchers may be more accessible than say, bigger metropolitans? At a more affordable rate? I’ll have to figure this out. Thank you
At least for humans, red meat has every essential nutrient the body needs, I'm sure it's not that far off for dogs, I eat steak and eggs every day, nothing else and I'm healthier than I've ever been. Dogs should be fine on beef and eggs too.
Ive been raw feeding for a long time...the community is a HUGE problem. People in raw feeding FB groups are horrible, critical, and cruel. I don't understand why...but ive seen these critical people scare away a lot of new raw feeders looking for support..
TH-cam has definitely soft banned you. I can’t see any of the content you upload anymore unless I specifically look up your channel.
I don't understand, isn't raw meat dangerous for cats?
waddup pack, anyone have trouble incorporating organs to your dogs meals? My dog cannot stomach them. What did you do to help your dog get used to eating organ meat daily? Think this is the last ingredient she needs and has been lacking!
Sick of the SCARE TACTICS!! There is a positive way to communicate this info ... why are you constantly trying to SCARE us?? We have enough fears as it is. YES ... there are some stupid/ignorant people ... but being empathetic and educating is way better than guilt tripping or scaring us. Please!! And if you didn't have a serious talk with that owner whose dog passed from eating a non-nutritional diet then that death is on YOU
The way you guys waffle to pad out your content is so frustrating. Work on your script.