You are insulting Harbor Freight. The name of the company (wouuuuhuhuu) s the sound you will make when your balls are toast by the exploding engine between your legs. RevelatorAlf is wasting everyone's time
Not really! I remember when the 1975 GL1000 was introduced. Honda had a big market share with many models of different sizes in the US. The honda street bike sales brochure had all the models pictured from top to bottom with the new flagship goldwing at the bottom. Your very wrong in that the bike was very well received! It was its own bike and no threat to anything else. Even had a funky emergency sideways kick start arm. Some say the same B.S. about the Japanese cars as well; Truth is the Japanese cars actually Were garbage before they were refined later and took off when gas prices climbed. @user-yr1gl3vy7p
I am a Harley guy, but it’s common knowledge that the Goldwing is the gold standard of touring bikes. This bike has an uphill battle trying to get anyone who rides a “wing” to even consider it. But I have to admit that I am curious about what this bike sounds like, as a “flat eight” is a pretty uncommon engine configuration.
I did a Google search “gwm sou gl2000” in the first article that came up was by a site called New Atlas. It’s a straightforward review pointing out that while the engine looks impressive it’s low in horsepower with a 6k redline. While I admire Gold Wings the rubber mounted Harleys have a “soul.” I think this GWM bike it’s going to have to be very inexpensive to get people to take a chance on it
Ditto! That Venture was a well styled & engineered Luxo Tourer but only lasted a scant 4 years! Hard to envision this laviathan having any success in this market.
@nelsonphilip4520 I test drove tjat yamaha, and even when the engine was good, it was super heavy. The pegs touch the road at the slightest inclination, and the turbulence in my helmet was horrible.
For American riders that want a full dress tourer and want a Gold Wing type bike, they are going to buy a Gold Wing. Why? A history of innovation and quality build. There is also a dealer network for maintenance. This new Chinese bike has none of that.
There was once a Cadre of aspiring Electraglide owners who bought Goldwings. Primarily because they were cheaper. History didn't even remotely figure into the equation back then because large bore Japanese bikes were a new idea. One thing is for certain. History has a way of repeating itself.
I purchased my first GWM Pick Up over 10 years ago, I'm on my third vehicle bought brand new at this point from the brand. Unfortunately as some would say the Chinese value for money is unbeatable, we've had to learn that lesson in South Africa it's the reality, as for motorcycles I'm sure they'll commit to the same principles and eventually begin selling them like hot cakes, just as their motor vehicles have in the past it's only a matter of time. I own a Honda VFR800 6th Gen, my dream bike but if opportunity allowed I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one.
Some people pay a premium for Harley, just because it’s Harley and some people just don’t get that and will happily ride other ‘lesser’ cruisers. Goldwing doesn’t have much competition so I’d expect there will be plenty who would give this bike a go if the price is competitive. Personally I think it looks gorgeous, like a wing on steroids. But.. Honda is so reliable that there are plenty of their tourers around for cheap. I’ll be sticking to my ‘86 GL1200
At 4:34, did I hear 400 to 450 horsepower ?? Incredible (literally). Incroyable ! Maybe chinese horses ....... other source estimates 130 hp, looks more like what it will be. Bike looks good, by the way.
I own an older Goldwing and this S 2000 is a nice looking bike ... or at least someone has taken nice looking photos. Before this company becomes a player in the American market, they will have to prove successful in other markets. I am old enough to remember when Toyotas were disposable cars and today they are an automotive leader. Is there room for another touring motorcycle? Of course there is and maybe this will be it. We'll just have to wait and see.
Everyone saying goldwing, but I guess everyone forgot about the Yamaha Star Venture/Eluder bikes. This bike straight up is pulling from those. That front fairing and ram air intakes look just like the Eluder bagger. Infact that's what I thought this was at first.
Looks like a Star Venture in the front, Goldwing in the rear. When I’m shopping for a new bike, or even a new car for that matter, resale value doesn’t even register on my list of needs and wants… these things are toys, not investments. Anyways, if it makes it’s way here, I’d give it a chance
Dunno mate. In my experience, Chinese bikes and cars get old pretty fast compared to …. almost anything else. That said, that might’ve changed since I was living in a place with a lot of them; but I’d still wait for someone else to buy it 1st and see after a few years.
I'd have one no problem...im on my third goldwing now and this latest has been nothing but trouble...drive selection switch faulty at 18 months old ....wouldnt go in to drive 24 months old....sat nav stopped working.....got stranded out in Anglesey wouldn't start because gearbox wouldn't find neutral...managed to clear fault by rolling bike backwards...good job I was facing uphill !!!! . The new wings are just not as reliable as the old.
Very interesting. I don't know how they will fight Honda's reliability. It will take a lot of sweat to bring GW owner across the yard. This company will have to cover this bike bumper to bumper pretty well to sell them well. I would love to test one. As an owner of 2020 DCT Tour, since new, I am holding till they come to the USA, if they will.
As a first gen gl1800 owner, I could be tempted, considering the 30 K plus price of the current GEN Goldwing. Blue Betty is setting at 250,000 miles, and I’ve been thinking about picking up a current GEN but holy shit the price.
You may be surprised to learn how many Chinese parts are actually on your motorcycles and you don't know it. It will be interesting to see the test rides reviews. If they go all in with, dealer support and a financing arm, floor plan support , factory training, robust spare parts and warranty program, custom parts catalog and sold them at a very reasonable price. They could establish themselves here in the US.
There will be some low intelligence cheapskates here in the US that will buy this bike. However, Indian/Polaris makes great bikes and even they have a tough time competing with H-D and Honda. I wouldn’t take this cheap abomination for free.
@SJ-oxy ignoring facts doesn't help you to avoid the consequences 🤷 They're not producing "bricks", but building whole houses, ship them to the ignorant sheoples which buy them for "made 🇩🇪 for 🇩🇪 prices" 😁
GWM is reliable with its japanese patent vehicles. I AM extremely curious how close to its main target - The King- is. The Goldwing is not only touring king it's a 50 year motorcycle history, so this thing is absolute ambition.
I have 2 2013 Goldwing F6B's I've customized with everything imaginable for both. One is blacked out and one is a red custom. About everything I order daily for my business or personal use from Amazon is made in China. So, why not get one of these if they're reasonably priced and haul ass. Look wise they're sweet!
You have to remember used price is a percentage of New Sale Price. If the Used price is still 40% of New after 6 years, and the Real Goldwing is 50% of new after 6 years, but the GWM is significantly cheaper to start, you're still $$ ahead with the GWM. And GWM cars have market penetration here in Australia. There's an average of over ten GWM Dealerships in every State in Australia, and their Brands include GWM, Haval, Wey and Ora. The Haval is releasing a hybrid to rival the hybrid Rav4 soon. And currently the Haval in better spec is at least 10% cheaper than the Rav4 with more equipment levels, and its stylishness is great. And GWM offer a 7 year unlimited km warranty across the range. I'm not in the market for a Goldwing, but don't kid yourself. If you're planning on only keeping it for the 7 year warranty period, you will be saving thousands. And, apart from boomers, the economy sucks for all of us now. Those Dollars in lieu of a badge are valuable now. It does seem weird they've gone for the Goldwing now. If the Chinese bring out a 500 odd cc lightweight Adventure bike like the CF Moto 450MT, they'll own that market. And it's a lot bigger market than the Goldwing market.
Im seeing what looks like a fuel cap on the fuel tank...that means all that fuel weight up high...instead of under the seat and low like with the Gold Wing.
I like the look of that more than the Goldwing, not a lot more, but it's lines are a bit cleaner, and the handlebars look awesome. The Goldwing is my target ultimate bike and I currently ride a Chinese bike, but I don't know this particular company. The bike looks fine, it would be whether or not there are actual dealers to support it as well as aftermarket parts and accessories support. We will have to see by the time I am ready by that level of bike.
The American and European markets are tough and hard to win over to my understanding! Therefore, the Chinese will have to absolutely “nail it” with this new product in every faze, which includes quality, reliability, performance, price, comfort and accessibility of service in the fore mentioned markets in order to achieve greatness! That takes years to accomplish. I can see that happening solely in the Asian markets in my opinion. 👍
I had a 2008 GW and loved it! However the new GW should have more power! More storage! A bigger gas tank! Honda could have given us more! Now they will be force to think bigger and bolder and that can only be a good thing for GW owners!
I've owned the Valkyrie (selling it is STILL one of my biggest regrets) and the 1500 Goldwing, so I'll give a big ol' AMEN to THAT! 🤔, Flat 8, cruiser styling, two liters, 8 into 8 exhaust, 8 velocity stacks, 240 rear tire?... mmmmm! It'd be like having a gal with HHH mams; sure, I don't NEED that, but I'd STILL ride it like there's no tomorrow.
Is there much demand for large long distance touring motorcycles in China? I mean, there are over a billion people in China, and probably several hundred million who might have the income for a luxury toy like this. But as far as I know the big market for the Goldwing has always been in North America. Well, relatively big, it's not like Honda or BMW sells a ton of bikes in this class.
I'll be looking for a used one in a few years when my 1500 Goldwing has closer to a quarter million miles. Now, to be frank, I won't get RID of my Goldwing (it'll only have a quarter million miles, duh) but I'd like to think that this chi-com rig will do pretty well and I'm DYIN' to ride a flat eight!
I was hoping you had riding experience on this bike. I'd buy one, (if I could get it without the shipping expense, which might be two or three times the price of the bike itself) just to see it implode. It's an interesting concept though. I just don't think it will get too far.
China was given the machine and forging industry of the US & MOST of the West. They make parts for all brands, so it will be a good thing to see complete ventures. I remember all the negativity for the products that came out of Japan in the 60s-70s and we can see how wrong that ended. CFMOTO is is behind KTM and we see how well they are already doing in MOTOGP. Time will tell and pricing will be a good point as time goes on. will I sell my Kawasaki and my Harley any time soon for a China built motorcycle, NO, but I would add a 3rd bike to check one out.
@SJ-oxy OF Course they or different cultures... just saying the future will tell and like the way folks used to claim Japanese bikes were no good (I know because my 2nd bike was a 1974 750k in 1974) & I was given many INSULTS, but the future begged different... and so will China's products. that was all I was commenting, sorry to have offended you if you are Japanese.
Thanks for a rational comment. Here in the US I'm closing in on 18k miles on my 2022 first model year worldwide CFMOTO 700 CL-X. It has/had a bug in the gear indicator sensors but they issued a complete redesign fix that will be installed next week. My local dealer , who just opened his 2nd dealership in a 20 mile radius, has been great to work with and so far they have replaced sensors, ECU, Wiring Harness, Throttle Assembly trying to sort it out. The Chinese crap story is indeed coming to an end as the larger companies are using quality components from JJuan/Brembo, KYB, Bosch, Continental, Pirelli, and it comes with cruise control, full LEDs, slipper clutch, 6 speed, dual ABS, self cancelling turn signals, and inverted forks with bug guards for less than $7000. In January, CFMOTO announced their new 51%-49% majority partnership with Yamaha to make and sell bikes in China. And, I know of at least three Harley Davidson dealers in New York and Connecticut that are selling CFMOTO motorcycles under the same roof!! In related news Tesla recalls another 150,000 vehicles.......... keep those odometers spinning!!!!
I ride a Cfmotor gt400. Tech wise is good. Quality wise, still have some years lacking behind the tested brands. Support wise poor even from dealer. Off market parts essentially none. Price wise cheaper then tested Brand but you get headaches from problems. There one person from the chat group had brought a brand new bike for 6 months but had 2 months in the workshop. Problems range from stator coil, auxiliary relay, over heating , co2 sensor, Low rpm chocking. These are problems for a brand imported for 3 years into the country. Future wise, better get a bike brand that is around for more then 10 years to prevent heartaches.
Kinda surprised, and disappointed, it isn’t a hybrid like Kawasaki’s Ninja 7 introduced October 6, 2023. Personally, the hybrid has no appeal to me in a smaller bike but in a behemoth touring bike it makes a lot of sense. Aside from a hybrid distinguishing itself in the marketplace, wouldn’t it check a lot of boxes for consumers looking for better fuel economy and performance?
I’m sorry but no Chinese bike will ever get me to buy and especially one against a Honda and even more so the Goldwing which is legendary and the finest tourer ever made
One thing i am is not afraid to do stupid things, i would buy one to see. If no support thats fine i have been building my own cars and bikes my whole life and if it messes up i know with any engine it can be stripped down to its core and parts like different intake to fit a ole Mikuni to the motor can be sand casted out of beer cans and made to run again. Most likely not as good as before but it will run . I never had a bike sit in the garage or behind the house that won't run. It's a engine it needs fuel, air and compression, if it gets all of that it will run, shit i'll put a 4 bbl Holly double pumper on it if i have to. Point is life is to short to be scared to take a chance if you can afford to...if you can't afford to than you don't need to be buying (wasting) your money on a bike no matter what brand it is. Bikes are awesome but not as awesome as your family...afford your family first then if possible think about a bike.
They say Don't buy a bike you can't lift up by yourself ,but lots of people still do .This may suit larger riders ,let's see what the road testers say .
The after market sales will be the biggest worry for me. If they only make them for a few years, you are stuck with a really heavy boat anchor. Goldwing made millions and have 50 years of practice and millions of data values for parts failing from dealerships which they improve over time. Virtually nothing form this Chinese new comer. The Chinese bike has likely better performance with a 4 valve head and slightly larger capacity, but moves more into the achilles heel of the Goldwing. And that is it's weight. It would be interesting how that is managed.
Ya…I don’t think Honda is probably too nervous. I mean the Chinese are so well known for their build quality😂….this bike will be history in the very near future, at least outside of china.
Only difference is, the Japanese didn't drop the bikes after 3 years, they kept a backup where as the Chinese don't have the same attitude to " OLD STUFF". That's where they fall short.
Japanese started out with quality. But because it wasn’t long after WWII, they were bagged out. Chinese just make crap. It has improved, but it’s still crap. [edit] And WAY overpriced.
@@Visionery1 Let me know when that happens, because it won’t. The Chinese are built on thievery, shoddy products and corporate dishonesty. They would literally mess up a junk yard.
I, too, would be interested in buying one of these. I don't like the newer Goldwings, I feel they have lost their look. And this to me has the look. As regards anything else about it, we will have to wait and see. But I would give it a punt
@user-bu2en3cl6s Maybe a "Punt" means something different where you are? It simply means a gamble. Therefore, I would take a gamble that the bike is good and purchase one when they come to the UK market. With Honda, it's less of a gamble because established brand, although their Goldwings have lost their look in my opinion, hence I am looking for an alternative to a Goldwing for my comfortable cruiser.
i have a 20 Wing. This is a beautiful bike, a little more power than a Wing but quite a bit heavier. It has about 130, not 400 horsepower. That is ridiculous misinformation. It won't be sold here, as I understand it. I would love a test drive.
GWM Have released the Tank 300 and 500 4x4 that are super specced and ripping into the big manufacturers and have been widely positively recieved. If theyve turned their attention to bikes then the big boys need to be scared.
That particular class of bikes already struggling to sell with the exception of Harley Davidson. Most of those existing models sit on the showroom floor for a long time or even years so there is no room for another new bike in that category.
One of the websites said it will make 400hp. As a liter sports bike makes 200hp. Took me a good 5 minutes to stop laughing. My kids thought I was having a breakdown. Imagine this revving to 13,000 to make those kind of horse power figures .
Looks much better than the wing, wings here cost BRL 300.000,00 more or less USD 60.000,00!!! So i am all for it.... Chinese manufacturing is the new Japanese on a much bigger scale an affordable.
@@elrumcajs777 Brazil... A Fireblade R R costs USD 44.000,00!! Honda has a 60% market share here so they charge a extra extra premium on their imported motorcycle. And sell shite on the domestic ones yet people still buy it...
I can do without that ‘Harbor Freight’ version of a Goldwing. 😂
I OWN a Goldwing...an old one... WITH a few miles.
And I'm not stupid enough to be so dismissive of this bike.
Open your eyes mate. Times are changing. Also remember that at one time people considered goldwings the harbor freight editions of American bikes.
You are insulting Harbor Freight. The name of the company (wouuuuhuhuu) s the sound you will make when your balls are toast by the exploding engine between your legs.
RevelatorAlf is wasting everyone's time
Not really! I remember when the 1975 GL1000 was introduced.
Honda had a big market share with many models of different sizes in the US.
The honda street bike sales brochure had all the models pictured from top to bottom with the new flagship goldwing at the bottom. Your very wrong in that the bike was very well received!
It was its own bike and no threat to anything else.
Even had a funky emergency sideways kick start arm.
Some say the same B.S. about the Japanese cars as well;
Truth is the Japanese cars actually Were garbage before they were refined later and took off when gas prices climbed. @user-yr1gl3vy7p
Japanese bikes were once called Jap Crap.
I am a Harley guy, but it’s common knowledge that the Goldwing is the gold standard of touring bikes. This bike has an uphill battle trying to get anyone who rides a “wing” to even consider it. But I have to admit that I am curious about what this bike sounds like, as a “flat eight” is a pretty uncommon engine configuration.
I did a Google search “gwm sou gl2000” in the first article that came up was by a site called New Atlas. It’s a straightforward review pointing out that while the engine looks impressive it’s low in horsepower with a 6k redline. While I admire Gold Wings the rubber mounted Harleys have a “soul.” I think this GWM bike it’s going to have to be very inexpensive to get people to take a chance on it
Look like a star venture with a goldwing engine!
Ditto! That Venture was a well styled & engineered Luxo Tourer but only lasted a scant 4 years! Hard to envision this laviathan having any success in this market.
@nelsonphilip4520 I test drove tjat yamaha, and even when the engine was good, it was super heavy. The pegs touch the road at the slightest inclination, and the turbulence in my helmet was horrible.
You’re not wrong…
@@nelsonphilip4520venture/eluder issue was the heat from the engine. Other than that it was a killer bike.
For American riders that want a full dress tourer and want a Gold Wing type bike, they are going to buy a Gold Wing. Why? A history of innovation and quality build. There is also a dealer network for maintenance. This new Chinese bike has none of that.
There was once a Cadre of aspiring Electraglide owners who bought Goldwings. Primarily because they were cheaper. History didn't even remotely figure into the equation back then because large bore Japanese bikes were a new idea. One thing is for certain. History has a way of repeating itself.
The Goldwing is a shrunken tonks toy!
The Goldwings already have a proven track record. This new bike has nothing yet. I wouldn’t want to be one of the first ones to own it.
Absolutely
I purchased my first GWM Pick Up over 10 years ago, I'm on my third vehicle bought brand new at this point from the brand.
Unfortunately as some would say the Chinese value for money is unbeatable, we've had to learn that lesson in South Africa it's the reality, as for motorcycles I'm sure they'll commit to the same principles and eventually begin selling them like hot cakes, just as their motor vehicles have in the past it's only a matter of time.
I own a Honda VFR800 6th Gen, my dream bike but if opportunity allowed I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one.
Nothing can kill a Honda Goldwing.
If and when I decide that I need a Chinese tank in the garage, I'll look for a military surplus auction...🤣
😂😂😂
Yes man, spot on 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yamaha Star venture and Honda Goldwing had a baby
But the baby is a commie brat that copies the homework of everyone in class ! :))
And a BIG one at that! 😆
I'd have a Souo in my garage in a heartbeat. I won't touch a goldwing but the S2000 rocks.
It looks like a Goldwing K1600 Venture! (Honda, BMW, Yamaha)
Man I can tell you this: this engine will be right at home inside the engine bay of my Renault Kwid
Looks good, will be interesting to see the ride reviews on the bike 🤔
Some people pay a premium for Harley, just because it’s Harley and some people just don’t get that and will happily ride other ‘lesser’ cruisers. Goldwing doesn’t have much competition so I’d expect there will be plenty who would give this bike a go if the price is competitive.
Personally I think it looks gorgeous, like a wing on steroids. But.. Honda is so reliable that there are plenty of their tourers around for cheap. I’ll be sticking to my ‘86 GL1200
Yeah, we need a network to address the "recalls!!" 😅
It’s a well known fact that the Chinese use smaller horses when configuring their BHP figures 🤔🇬🇧
Gimme a cruiser style with that 8cylinder and control over the clutch and a manual shifter I'm sold
My dream: cruising through Tibet with that beast.
I'm a goldwing rider would like to test ride anyhow
At 4:34, did I hear 400 to 450 horsepower ?? Incredible (literally). Incroyable ! Maybe chinese horses ....... other source estimates 130 hp, looks more like what it will be. Bike looks good, by the way.
450 hp out of a 2.0 litre would be rather interesting,🤔
Yeah, if it’s to be comparable to other bikes in this category, that means 125-165
I stopped watching at that point...
😂😂😂
Yes.... Chinese horses I hear are smaller....
'Would be interested in a direct comparison of specs of this bike w/ the Gold Wing.
The goldwing already proved itself,this bike is fare to be the goldwing killer,
I own an older Goldwing and this S 2000 is a nice looking bike ... or at least someone has taken nice looking photos. Before this company becomes a player in the American market, they will have to prove successful in other markets. I am old enough to remember when Toyotas were disposable cars and today they are an automotive leader. Is there room for another touring motorcycle? Of course there is and maybe this will be it. We'll just have to wait and see.
Did you just say Soo whoa ooh?!! 😳😳😳🤣
The bike looks like the Star Venture body with a gold wing engine.
I couldn’t tell when you’re serious or not. What bike has 400 horsepower in this class? That’s an insane number!
It’s also cobblers
It is more like 130
Other sites say 142hp.
Kind of hoping it does come to the US market. I'd be curious to see real-world user reviews on it.
On my 3rd Goldwing now. They are not perfect by any means. If anyone buys an imitation then 'good luck'.
mine is perfect. so far.
Friggin ice cream van/motorcycle, the radio only plays green sleeves. 🤣😂😆😜❤️
Everyone saying goldwing, but I guess everyone forgot about the Yamaha Star Venture/Eluder bikes.
This bike straight up is pulling from those. That front fairing and ram air intakes look just like the Eluder bagger. Infact that's what I thought this was at first.
Looks like a Star Venture in the front, Goldwing in the rear. When I’m shopping for a new bike, or even a new car for that matter, resale value doesn’t even register on my list of needs and wants… these things are toys, not investments. Anyways, if it makes it’s way here, I’d give it a chance
Very Beautiful, Impressive, Imponent, Powerful, and Spectacular Monster!!!, I'm loving it ❤🥇!!!, Thanks for sharing 👊✌️👍!!!
Dunno mate. In my experience, Chinese bikes and cars get old pretty fast compared to …. almost anything else. That said, that might’ve changed since I was living in a place with a lot of them; but I’d still wait for someone else to buy it 1st and see after a few years.
@@elrumcajs777 really？
Is it actually sold in China, or export only.
I'd have one no problem...im on my third goldwing now and this latest has been nothing but trouble...drive selection switch faulty at 18 months old ....wouldnt go in to drive 24 months old....sat nav stopped working.....got stranded out in Anglesey wouldn't start because gearbox wouldn't find neutral...managed to clear fault by rolling bike backwards...good job I was facing uphill !!!! .
The new wings are just not as reliable as the old.
Very interesting. I don't know how they will fight Honda's reliability. It will take a lot of sweat to bring GW owner across the yard. This company will have to cover this bike bumper to bumper pretty well to sell them well. I would love to test one. As an owner of 2020 DCT Tour, since new, I am holding till they come to the USA, if they will.
As a first gen gl1800 owner, I could be tempted, considering the 30 K plus price of the current GEN Goldwing. Blue Betty is setting at 250,000 miles, and I’ve been thinking about picking up a current GEN but holy shit the price.
how much does it weight?
You may be surprised to learn how many Chinese parts are actually on your motorcycles and you don't know it. It will be interesting to see the test rides reviews. If they go all in with, dealer support and a financing arm, floor plan support , factory training, robust spare parts and warranty program, custom parts catalog and sold them at a very reasonable price. They could establish themselves here in the US.
@@NakaNakaDerkaDerkaYou (or your dad) said the same about the Japanese bikes, I suppose?
There will be some low intelligence cheapskates here in the US that will buy this bike. However, Indian/Polaris makes great bikes and even they have a tough time competing with H-D and Honda. I wouldn’t take this cheap abomination for free.
@SJ-oxy ignoring facts doesn't help you to avoid the consequences 🤷
They're not producing "bricks", but building whole houses, ship them to the ignorant sheoples which buy them for "made 🇩🇪 for 🇩🇪 prices" 😁
I would be in line to buy this. This bike looks amazing. It looks like the offspring of a Goldwing and a Star Venture.
😅
Great video. How come you have a picture of the leaders of the Canadian government on the wall behind you?
Target practice??
😂😂😂 so true!
They’re not leaders.
I guess it's because of Jackass Trudeau's affiliation with China.
You need that wanker X Ping Pong on the wall 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
GWM is reliable with its japanese patent vehicles. I AM extremely curious how close to its main target - The King- is. The Goldwing is not only touring king it's a 50 year motorcycle history, so this thing is absolute ambition.
I have 2 2013 Goldwing F6B's I've customized with everything imaginable for both. One is blacked out and one is a red custom. About everything I order daily for my business or personal use from Amazon is made in China. So, why not get one of these if they're reasonably priced and haul ass. Look wise they're sweet!
I buy a motorcycle to wear it out and not for it to keep it's value, would like to see it put through it's paces.
You have to remember used price is a percentage of New Sale Price. If the Used price is still 40% of New after 6 years, and the Real Goldwing is 50% of new after 6 years, but the GWM is significantly cheaper to start, you're still $$ ahead with the GWM. And GWM cars have market penetration here in Australia. There's an average of over ten GWM Dealerships in every State in Australia, and their Brands include GWM, Haval, Wey and Ora. The Haval is releasing a hybrid to rival the hybrid Rav4 soon. And currently the Haval in better spec is at least 10% cheaper than the Rav4 with more equipment levels, and its stylishness is great. And GWM offer a 7 year unlimited km warranty across the range. I'm not in the market for a Goldwing, but don't kid yourself. If you're planning on only keeping it for the 7 year warranty period, you will be saving thousands. And, apart from boomers, the economy sucks for all of us now. Those Dollars in lieu of a badge are valuable now.
It does seem weird they've gone for the Goldwing now. If the Chinese bring out a 500 odd cc lightweight Adventure bike like the CF Moto 450MT, they'll own that market. And it's a lot bigger market than the Goldwing market.
Im seeing what looks like a fuel cap on the fuel tank...that means all that fuel weight up high...instead of under the seat and low like with the Gold Wing.
Nice but you can't beat a goldwing love the goldwings from 2012 to 2017 and 2001 to 2010 can't beat them thanks john
I like the look of that more than the Goldwing, not a lot more, but it's lines are a bit cleaner, and the handlebars look awesome. The Goldwing is my target ultimate bike and I currently ride a Chinese bike, but I don't know this particular company. The bike looks fine, it would be whether or not there are actual dealers to support it as well as aftermarket parts and accessories support. We will have to see by the time I am ready by that level of bike.
GWM = Great Wall Motors. They've been making cars for years, and so the engine technology is not an issue
400 to 450, horsepower, that seems excessive, but let's see what happens with this bike. I'll be keeping my eye on it.
The American and European markets are tough and hard to win over to my understanding! Therefore, the Chinese will have to absolutely “nail it” with this new product in every faze, which includes quality, reliability, performance, price, comfort and accessibility of service in the fore mentioned markets in order to achieve greatness! That takes years to accomplish. I can see that happening solely in the Asian markets in my opinion. 👍
I had a 2008 GW and loved it! However the new GW should have more power! More storage! A bigger gas tank! Honda could have given us more! Now they will be force to think bigger and bolder and that can only be a good thing for GW owners!
Does it come with an automatic fire suppression system? Chinese vehicles usually come with an external combustion engine
Send us a demo so we can rip the shit out of it😂
If its like everything else it will burst into flames 🔥
If they would make a motorcycle version of that, like Valkyrie was to Goldwing, that could get my attention.
I've owned the Valkyrie (selling it is STILL one of my biggest regrets) and the 1500 Goldwing, so I'll give a big ol' AMEN to THAT!
🤔, Flat 8, cruiser styling, two liters, 8 into 8 exhaust, 8 velocity stacks, 240 rear tire?... mmmmm!
It'd be like having a gal with HHH mams; sure, I don't NEED that, but I'd STILL ride it like there's no tomorrow.
Is there much demand for large long distance touring motorcycles in China? I mean, there are over a billion people in China, and probably several hundred million who might have the income for a luxury toy like this. But as far as I know the big market for the Goldwing has always been in North America. Well, relatively big, it's not like Honda or BMW sells a ton of bikes in this class.
Thanks for your video
I'll be looking for a used one in a few years when my 1500 Goldwing has closer to a quarter million miles.
Now, to be frank, I won't get RID of my Goldwing (it'll only have a quarter million miles, duh) but I'd like to think that this chi-com rig will do pretty well and I'm DYIN' to ride a flat eight!
I was hoping you had riding experience on this bike. I'd buy one, (if I could get it without the shipping expense, which might be two or three times the price of the bike itself) just to see it implode. It's an interesting concept though. I just don't think it will get too far.
I like to know some of the specifications on it. Such as seat height and infotainment
China was given the machine and forging industry of the US & MOST of the West. They make parts for all brands, so it will be a good thing to see complete ventures. I remember all the negativity for the products that came out of Japan in the 60s-70s and we can see how wrong that ended. CFMOTO is is behind KTM and we see how well they are already doing in MOTOGP. Time will tell and pricing will be a good point as time goes on. will I sell my Kawasaki and my Harley any time soon for a China built motorcycle, NO, but I would add a 3rd bike to check one out.
@SJ-oxy OF Course they or different cultures... just saying the future will tell and like the way folks used to claim Japanese bikes were no good (I know because my 2nd bike was a 1974 750k in 1974) & I was given many INSULTS, but the future begged different... and so will China's products. that was all I was commenting, sorry to have offended you if you are Japanese.
Thanks for a rational comment. Here in the US I'm closing in on 18k miles on my 2022 first model year worldwide CFMOTO 700 CL-X. It has/had a bug in the gear indicator sensors but they issued a complete redesign fix that will be installed next week. My local dealer , who just opened his 2nd dealership in a 20 mile radius, has been great to work with and so far they have replaced sensors, ECU, Wiring Harness, Throttle Assembly trying to sort it out. The Chinese crap story is indeed coming to an end as the larger companies are using quality components from JJuan/Brembo, KYB, Bosch, Continental, Pirelli, and it comes with cruise control, full LEDs, slipper clutch, 6 speed, dual ABS, self cancelling turn signals, and inverted forks with bug guards for less than $7000. In January, CFMOTO announced their new 51%-49% majority partnership with Yamaha to make and sell bikes in China. And, I know of at least three Harley Davidson dealers in New York and Connecticut that are selling CFMOTO motorcycles under the same roof!! In related news Tesla recalls another 150,000 vehicles.......... keep those odometers spinning!!!!
I ride a Cfmotor gt400. Tech wise is good. Quality wise, still have some years lacking behind the tested brands. Support wise poor even from dealer. Off market parts essentially none. Price wise cheaper then tested Brand but you get headaches from problems. There one person from the chat group had brought a brand new bike for 6 months but had 2 months in the workshop. Problems range from stator coil, auxiliary relay, over heating , co2 sensor, Low rpm chocking. These are problems for a brand imported for 3 years into the country. Future wise, better get a bike brand that is around for more then 10 years to prevent heartaches.
Kinda surprised, and disappointed, it isn’t a hybrid like Kawasaki’s Ninja 7 introduced October 6, 2023. Personally, the hybrid has no appeal to me in a smaller bike but in a behemoth touring bike it makes a lot of sense. Aside from a hybrid distinguishing itself in the marketplace, wouldn’t it check a lot of boxes for consumers looking for better fuel economy and performance?
I’m sorry but no Chinese bike will ever get me to buy and especially one against a Honda and even more so the Goldwing which is legendary and the finest tourer ever made
One thing i am is not afraid to do stupid things, i would buy one to see.
If no support thats fine i have been building my own cars and bikes my whole life and if it messes up i know with any engine it can be stripped down to its core and parts like different intake to fit a ole Mikuni to the motor can be sand casted out of beer cans and made to run again. Most likely not as good as before but it will run . I never had a bike sit in the garage or behind the house that won't run. It's a engine it needs fuel, air and compression, if it gets all of that it will run, shit i'll put a 4 bbl Holly double pumper on it if i have to.
Point is life is to short to be scared to take a chance if you can afford to...if you can't afford to than you don't need to be buying (wasting) your money on a bike no matter what brand it is.
Bikes are awesome but not as awesome as your family...afford your family first then if possible think about a bike.
I'd love to get a loaner and put it through some various rides. I'll give anything a real look and decide from there. Big bastard, that's for sure.
Honda I am sure won't be complacent like the british manufacturers were of the Honda CB750.
GL = Gold Wing Like LOL another good vid Glad to see you keeping it going.
They say Don't buy a bike you can't lift up by yourself ,but lots of people still do .This may suit larger riders ,let's see what the road testers say .
Hello, thanks a lot for info about this superb bike! Do you have any piece of information about that bike's weight?
Ride safe.
I read 880 pounds.
All depends on the price . If it's halfe or less than a wing it'll sell . Especially when it's s hand .
Good luck getting that beast on the center stand.
It’s supposed to be automatic center stand
Automatic center stand. I'm in.
Interesting. Thank you.
The after market sales will be the biggest worry for me. If they only make them for a few years, you are stuck with a really heavy boat anchor. Goldwing made millions and have 50 years of practice and millions of data values for parts failing from dealerships which they improve over time. Virtually nothing form this Chinese new comer. The Chinese bike has likely better performance with a 4 valve head and slightly larger capacity, but moves more into the achilles heel of the Goldwing. And that is it's weight. It would be interesting how that is managed.
P.T. Barnum said it best about suckers and minutes.
Love the screen, but I'll stick with the goldwing
Smart choice. I would buy a 10 year old goldwing over a new one of these, even if they were the same price.
This is what the Yamaha venture should have been.
Thanks for the Video, did you mean 150HP not 450HP? cheers
I like it
Would have to be extremely inexpensive to take a chance on this bike.
If it rides, and handles like the gold wing 1800 gl I had for 11 years, it will sell well...
Will it ride and handle like the Goldwing for 11 years? I doubt it. Goldwings have proven their worth.
Ya…I don’t think Honda is probably too nervous. I mean the Chinese are so well known for their build quality😂….this bike will be history in the very near future, at least outside of china.
400/450 hp? No Way! If that had 250Hp it be the most powerful bike in it's class by a lot!!
Did you say 400 to 450 bhp?
Surely the direct competitor for this is Triumph's massive Rocket 3?
I've been wishing that Triumph would fashion a luxo-tourer on the Rocket 3 gen-2 platform.
For those that can remember this is how the Japanese bikes started, once the quality is good I bet we will see a lot more Chinese bikes
Only difference is, the Japanese didn't drop the bikes after 3 years, they kept a backup where as the Chinese don't have the same attitude to " OLD STUFF". That's where they fall short.
The Chinese are in an even better position, they can buy the best currently on the market, and improve on it.
Japanese started out with quality. But because it wasn’t long after WWII, they were bagged out. Chinese just make crap. It has improved, but it’s still crap.
[edit] And WAY overpriced.
@@Visionery1 Let me know when that happens, because it won’t. The Chinese are built on thievery, shoddy products and corporate dishonesty. They would literally mess up a junk yard.
If the Yamaha Venture and the Goldwind had a baby, it would be this.
I, too, would be interested in buying one of these. I don't like the newer Goldwings, I feel they have lost their look. And this to me has the look. As regards anything else about it, we will have to wait and see. But I would give it a punt
Saw 2024 GW in dealer floor and looked stunning oozing with quality...
What the hell is all this "punt" talk?!
Nobody is going to punt anything.
We're talking about motorcycles here.
@user-bu2en3cl6s Maybe a "Punt" means something different where you are? It simply means a gamble. Therefore, I would take a gamble that the bike is good and purchase one when they come to the UK market. With Honda, it's less of a gamble because established brand, although their Goldwings have lost their look in my opinion, hence I am looking for an alternative to a Goldwing for my comfortable cruiser.
I wouldn't mind being the first to own one...as long as I don't hafta lay out my own bread for it!! Might be fun - I know it sounds amazing.
Will it be available in Europe ?
I WILL DIE before I buy ANY Chinese motorcycle . My Harley is less expensive and works just fine, thank you!!
lol
i have a 20 Wing.
This is a beautiful bike, a little more power than a Wing but quite a bit heavier. It has about 130, not 400 horsepower. That is ridiculous misinformation.
It won't be sold here, as I understand it. I would love a test drive.
I don't want it but someone will. It looks good.
Lots of things in China look good. They usually fall apart after a few years.
GWM Have released the Tank 300 and 500 4x4 that are super specced and ripping into the big manufacturers and have been widely positively recieved.
If theyve turned their attention to bikes then the big boys need to be scared.
Can't wait to see one at a park and ask the rider what the hell they where thinking 🤔 resale value will be interesting
And it’s a Chinese 🤣🤣. Quality 📉
I would be very interested if GWM builds and sells a Honda-quality lawnmower for a Royal-Enfield price...
That particular class of bikes already struggling to sell with the exception of Harley Davidson. Most of those existing models sit on the showroom floor for a long time or even years so there is no room for another new bike in that category.
Yeah, I'm sure you're right.
They should have consulted with you first.
Oh well, it's too late now.
One of the websites said it will make 400hp. As a liter sports bike makes 200hp. Took me a good 5 minutes to stop laughing. My kids thought I was having a breakdown.
Imagine this revving to 13,000 to make those kind of horse power figures .
BS AI script is becoming all pervading. Some dumb AI has extrapolated a 200hp/L sport bike engine to come up with a 400hp 2L tourer
Yes it’s utter bollocks and becoming quite a pain.
450 hp? WTF?
I very much doubt it.
Looks much better than the wing, wings here cost BRL 300.000,00 more or less USD 60.000,00!!! So i am all for it.... Chinese manufacturing is the new Japanese on a much bigger scale an affordable.
60k for a Gold-wing? Where do you live??? 😱
@@elrumcajs777 Brazil... A Fireblade R R costs USD 44.000,00!! Honda has a 60% market share here so they charge a extra extra premium on their imported motorcycle. And sell shite on the domestic ones yet people still buy it...
@@adilsonlegalyt9647 … man, those are insane prices! I’m shocked. 😳