Camera Comparison: Nikon D850 vs Sony A7RIII

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  • Debating on whether or not to get a Nikon D850 or a Sony A7RIII?
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  • @pro-images1
    @pro-images1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Best DSLR.... D850!!! Best Mirrorless.... A7rIII!!! Win Win for both!!!

    • @joelscb
      @joelscb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Desi Boyer basically

    • @eriktred
      @eriktred 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is hard to go wrong...

    • @peterferry1646
      @peterferry1646 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      nope A7III is just hype with great tech but awefull ecosystem

  • @JonnyPink65
    @JonnyPink65 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you guys! I am a Sony guy through and through. Saving my pennies - or maxing my CC - for this A7RIII. Thank you!

  • @briankelly7986
    @briankelly7986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Why did yoou skip over eye-auto focus on the A7Riii?

  • @nikopro16
    @nikopro16 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally someone created good video. thank you! im so tired watching 10-15 videos and getting 0 info.

  • @derryk1
    @derryk1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Let's see between the Nikon d850 and the Sony A7Riii I'll take Megan for sure.

  • @aettght
    @aettght 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should used base iso of nikon for start , skin tones on nikon is pleasing to eyes

  • @robertcollis7951
    @robertcollis7951 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks guys and girl. I came across this video by accident but I'm so glad I did. I was a practicing photographer for over thirty years after graduating with a MFA from RIT. In the good old days I used the Nikon F systems exclusively. I and my fellow photographers relied on our eyes to focus as well as a lot of bracketing. We bracketed so much that the f stop clicks disappeared. I'm going to subscribe to your site and hope to see a lot more of your features.

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It has been wonderful seeing you guys grow with each camera. Do a first FF mirrorless/first FF DSLR to A7riii/D850 comparison, since they are the best. How long did it take? what has improved? That would be wonderful

  • @markshirley01
    @markshirley01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Sony for me and I'm a Nikon user. You can't avoid video these days.

  • @andy6588
    @andy6588 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was tossing up switching to Sony. But after the very first test at 1.15 I'm definetely sticking with the old horse. time to start saving for the Nikon D850!

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nikon refuse to move with the times just like Cannon, both or one will be out of business within the next 5 years, they are making mechanical watches in a digital age so to speak.

  • @evokestudioio
    @evokestudioio 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I think after commenting on the slight difference between ISO readouts for exposure you should’ve exposed both photos properly and compared them that way.

  • @wasee6694
    @wasee6694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks gentle man this video is very informative. I have the question in my mind from past 5 years that if Sony made most of nikon sensors why is the difference when compare nikon images with Sony. I get my answer from you guys but not from Tony northup, Michael the maven, Matt garner, Dustin Abbott. Thanks for the video 💓💞💓💓💓💕

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is because each company has their own color science. Their software interprets what it reads from the sensor and every manufacturer has their own software. Thanks for watching!

    • @wasee6694
      @wasee6694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheSlantedLens thank you very much for replying 💓💕💞

  • @ancientfishing
    @ancientfishing 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    On my High ISO test, it was the opposite using both the f/4 kit lens(24-70 for sony, 24-120 for nikon), the Sony was actually brighter under the same exposure. But I was using the D750 vs AR7III. Also I prefer Nikon software features better, having stuff like in-camera time-lapse and back illuminated buttons, those are starting to be more important. I want these cameras to have in-camera panoramic and in-camera starstax in $3300 cameras.

  • @bigdhav
    @bigdhav 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Eye detect AF. Only available on mirrorless, and should work amazingly well for moving subjects!

  • @Solarflares
    @Solarflares 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you guys are overlooking the Zeiss Batis prime lenses for the A7R III. These lenses are very compact and with them the A7R III has a real advantage in size. Quality--wize they can keep up with the large GM glass. Huge selling point for me, since there are no such options for the D850.

  • @reggiekoch187
    @reggiekoch187 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely see an A7r iii in my near future. Thanks for the review, guys!!

  • @garychowhm
    @garychowhm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both are awesome cameras, it voice down to personal choice and preferences.

  • @lowdowndan
    @lowdowndan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Did I miss the ISO 64 comparison?

    • @333payaso
      @333payaso 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, they did not even mention that. Did they do it in purpose or just because Sony doesnt have it?

    • @darthgzuz
      @darthgzuz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did that comparison but deleted that video

    • @darthgzuz
      @darthgzuz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a re-upload video
      In previous video they did a detailed dynamic range comparison (highlight and shadow recovery at various ISOs) but pictures were wrongly labeled them ...

    • @333payaso
      @333payaso 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now the question is, the best Nikon ISO(64) vs the best Sony ISO(100)......Because I do portraits and that 64 ISO will make you see the heaven

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing with the Sony's lens size is that you don't have to run the massive lenses. You can put a smaller lens on it and have a nice, small package. I love that about these Sony cameras!! Can never have too much flexibility or options!!

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      True! Sony's glass is pretty impressive!

  • @philindeblanc
    @philindeblanc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony is better in the focus, but sadly to do a sensor picture quality test you MUST use the same lens. Preferably the same copy. I think you admit that, slightly. Some images looks to have more info. As mentioned, smooth transitions with info. Nikon Sensor looks too hot, and stays hot in tonal value/Too much contrast.
    The Sony rendition looks better on the Sony also. How do you know which ISO is correct? Sony's image does look noticeably better. I think JP spoke a bit sooner than the file fully came to focus on the Sony example he said not being sharp, as it was tack sharp as you can see in the magnifier.
    Canon is supposed to have a MF sensor camera. But I'm not holding my breath.
    Great video guys...Just try and get BOTH color checkers in focus next time ;-)

  • @MrKemKemal
    @MrKemKemal 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I researched a lot about these two, waited patiently for their release etc.
    Honestly, the best camera is the one you have on you all the time (not just when you're shooting). I also knew that focal distance worked beat for me (28mm equivalent) and what i didnt care about (ISO and super fast docus). ISO is dangerous: if the light isn't good, you shouldn't shoot anyways. The only compromise i had to make was a below 24m pixel sensor. To that regards, i ended up saving between $4000 and $5000 and got myself a Ricoh gr ii.
    Always in my pocket, allows for more natural photos since you get less attention and dont ruin the vibe / moment of your subjects by sticking such a big lens on their face...
    Anyways, for serious amateur street photography. Ricoh is really good. For anything else... those two monsters really kill it it seems

  • @cafo13
    @cafo13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work guys, when are we to expect a comparison between a9, a7riii and a7iii?

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question, we will consider that for future videos!

  • @RonaldH
    @RonaldH 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently using a Nikon D610, been with Nikon for many years. I'm thinking I would love to get a D850 as an upgrade to my D610. But then discovered the Sony A7iii a couple days ago - interested in it, not really knowing much about mirrorless cameras. But it sounds expensive to make the switch and get new lenses. One question about mirrorless -- I hate when dust gets on the sensor. Are mirrorless cameras like the A7iii much worse for dust on the sensor problems than a Nikon DSLR, as the sensor on mirrorless is more exposed during a lens change? How is the D850 for sensor dust? What camera is best for minimizing sensor dust?

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you are correct since the mirrorless doesn't have a mirror to protect it, it's much more prone to getting dust on the sensor. since the sensor is completely exposed when you're doing a lens change.
      it would be expensive to switch. you could look into getting an adaptor from Nikon to Sony. but the d850 is a better stills camera. but a little bit more bulky and heavier than the sony a7iii. depends on what your needs are.
      dust just happens. I wouldn't say a camera is particularly 'best' at keeping dust away. you'll want to check your dust from time to time.
      shoot an overexposed picture of the sky or on white, and the dust will appear. there are cleaning products out there that will help you. just be careful because you are dealing with a delicate part of the camera! or you can get your camera serviced.

    • @RonaldH
      @RonaldH 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Is there a Nikon to Sony adapter you could recommend that supports autofocus?

  • @sethcashman1011
    @sethcashman1011 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. I was going to go with the Sony. This has given me pause.

  • @doityourselfpakistan6535
    @doityourselfpakistan6535 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i find new nikon (new is referd to every nikon after d700 , d90 , d3 genration cameras ) produces werid highlights and overexposed highlights , you can see tht in 1.59 time on this video , the yellowish highlights in nikon 850 where as in sony they are smooth from highlights to shadow .

  • @town3
    @town3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A7R3 & A9 I Love them, great cameras

  • @OceanicNASA
    @OceanicNASA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For photography, Nikon does a better. For videography, Sony is what you'll need.

  • @ttight11
    @ttight11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just about to pick on two Canon shooters reviewing a Nikon and a Sony when you admitted that Canon doesn't have a seat at this table. kudos! Sony has come a long way, but they still have some things to learn about discriminating pro buyers. I wish they would make the body bigger! Just because it can be small does not mean everyone has tiny hands and it should be small.

    • @Kindersama
      @Kindersama 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy the grip?

    • @ttight11
      @ttight11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      naaaa. Buy the 850.

  • @justdoittom8431
    @justdoittom8431 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony looks nice I’m so going to get that A7Riii. Don’t tell our lass.
    Best camera out at the moment, Sony’s done a cracking job. Killed there A9 range in my opinion though.

  • @framebyframegames
    @framebyframegames 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so odd to me. There is no acceptably sharp that isn't perfectly sharp, especially with these newer cameras. On my 5DIII with a 35mm 1.4 or an 85mm 1.4 I can nail focus most of the time using my focus modes properly.

  • @UrbanoModa
    @UrbanoModa 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only true statement in this review was " Canon don't have a camera that compete in this category " (at the time of filming in 2017) and this bold statement that "no photographers know what they are doing anymore" seriously only you then in the world right ? You could visually see the younger chap shocked himself and threw in a grinding joke to help cover the situation. All this said, the video and your efforts are appreciated, i had my eyes on picking up a D500 or D850 but now i see that the Sony might actually more clearer, sharper and have better three dimensional result. Thanks for sharing

  • @AdilAlsuhaim
    @AdilAlsuhaim 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe it's not the ISO, maybe it is the lenses' transmission (or T-Stop)?

  • @cessealbeach
    @cessealbeach 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome comparison, Got D850 & A7Riii.............No More canon for me

    • @likandrosmar
      @likandrosmar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one do you prefer for photo..??thanx

  • @lukasmurmann625
    @lukasmurmann625 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dynamic range is better? Did you see those pictures? The all the Nikon pictures had much more contrast, which, you know, makes you loose light in the shadows, and overblowns the highest highlights!

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends on what you're looking for. The Nikon had more contrast which typically means it's more compressed. So it would be better if you're looking for minimal post-editing. But that doesn't mean the Nikon has more dynamic range.

  • @apaarjain
    @apaarjain 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    May i know why you guys did not use the eye autofocus mode on sony??

  • @JohnPepp
    @JohnPepp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't get me wrong I like seeing comparison between Nikon and Sony. What I don't like is bickering that goes on. If I were rich I would have many different camera bodies and lenses, but I'm not. It just seems to me the people who are loyal to brand seem to get hurt when their camera has a knock against it and seem to think they have to attack the opposing camera.
    I learn a valuable lesson 4 or 5 years ago when my parents came over and showed me pictures of the cruise the just took. There was one picture that my father took of the cruise ship that simply blew me away and the funny thing is he took the picture on his smartphone. While most of the other pictures where just ordinary snapshots this picture was not. My father simply just got lucky in taking that particular picture, but this just reinforces my opinion that it not the camera it's the person behind the camera that determines if it's a good picture or not. Another example is the picture of the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima. The first photographer was so ecstatic that he was the first person to take a picture of the flag raising that he rushed down the mountain to get it published or left under the impression that his photo was going to be remembered in the history books. Then the marines thought it would better to have a second flag raising (I think that was the case) and so Joe Rosenthal decided to take that picture. I also suspect Joe told the marines how to pose when raising the American Flag and what they say is history. I also suspect that Joe Rosenthal's camera gear was not in the best of condition and didn't have the greatest weather sealing for after all there was a war going on. ;) I'm no Joe Rosenthal, but I'm happy with my camera (Sony A7R III) and learn it's me that determines if I take a good picture or not. If I own the Nikon D850 then I would be just as happy with that camera and I would be trying to take good pictures with that. One last thing, I also found over the years having good glass is a must, because having bad glass handicaps you even before you get started. However, that is a different topic. Just my .02 cents

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey john, you're right. the camera is not the most important aspect of taking a picture. thanks for your .02 cents.

  • @stanglova86
    @stanglova86 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    im sitting here thinking if i should upgrade from my d60 and d3000 to d850

  • @mhylesrayne2152
    @mhylesrayne2152 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have both of those cameras merged in one... without the all the bells and whistles though. Nikon Df tadaaa!

  • @changleon7441
    @changleon7441 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting... Nikon and Sony both faked their ISO (manufacturer iso 100 of both cameras = measured iso 70 of both cameras). Looking at the lenses that you used, the Sony 85 f1.4 has a t-stop of 1.5 while the Nikon 85 f1.4 has a t-stop of 1.6, so Nikon should be a little darker... I don’t know why the exposure behaves like this..

  • @erikbarsingerhorn4485
    @erikbarsingerhorn4485 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Picture exposure
    difference on 1:24 is totally the opposite as on 6:46 with the iso test?

  • @hitmanhart22
    @hitmanhart22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's not a fair review guys. I usually come over to your channel but didn't like it this time.
    Now don't ask me why I'm saying it's not a fair review....you already know...& possibly better than I do.
    I have used both cameras including the a7rii and kept the Nikon d850....so far the best all round camera in the market.

  • @BklynBorn81
    @BklynBorn81 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any testing with long exposures and ND filters to test ISO performance on exposures over 1 minute?

  • @halfniak
    @halfniak 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is it that the Sony iso12800 and iso 25600 shots look like there is some kind of noise reduction applied, if these are raw files. The Nikon just gets grainy, the sony gets a bit mushy. Is this uncompressed raw?

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The shots were straight from the camera, it could be a compression by TH-cam that you're seeing.

  • @murugan1960
    @murugan1960 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice comparing projects but from your tutorial sony a7iii a few steps forward then Nikon this is suggestion

  • @gur262
    @gur262 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or the Nikons ISO isnt correct.. Why blame one other the other and how does it matter much? Just adjust brightness. Also could have to do with the lenses t stop

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure what you're trying to say here...

  • @saphxbarrett7336
    @saphxbarrett7336 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The D850 can shoot just as flat as the sony. You can install LOG profiles. I would not reccomend shooting S log on the sony either. You see horrible compression happening in the color and you are essentially baking the image like that. Not a good idea at all.

  • @jeffluo9591
    @jeffluo9591 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Technically, Sony is just so much more advanced. Which gives Sony more focus accuracy and sharpness.

    • @jeffluo9591
      @jeffluo9591 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not to mension the 5-axis IS on the Sony and the Pixel Shift function that comes with it.

    • @HR_sailor66
      @HR_sailor66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sooo...you did not watch the review then?

    • @AllCarsUnited
      @AllCarsUnited 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Malko the review didn't use the eye autofocus nor did it mention the benefits of 5 axis stabilization or the convenience of zebras, focus peaking,, electronic view fonder. Sold my 5d mark 4 for a a7s3 and can tell you that those extra features do make your workload so much easier and effective.

    • @franciscoletters
      @franciscoletters 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the IBIS sucks compared to lens IS

    • @apymv6128
      @apymv6128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no way in hell

  • @stefanbachrodt7072
    @stefanbachrodt7072 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Certainly one of the more aesthetically pleasing subjects to be looking at when compared to the other 69346547453784 camera comparisons I've watched tonight! =P Thanks gents!

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for checking it out! hope you were able to come to some sort of conclusion. have you checked out any other cameras?

    • @stefanbachrodt7072
      @stefanbachrodt7072 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have indeed. Some of which being the Sony A7S II, Fujifilm X-T2, Nikon D610 Nikon D750 & D5500, Canon 760D, D70, D80, D5 MKIII & D6 MKII. Still horribly stumped as to what to buy, not to mention doing so on a reasonably tight budget, will likely end up buying used as apposed to something new with lower specs.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      what are you using it for?

    • @stefanbachrodt7072
      @stefanbachrodt7072 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be primarily for landscape photography and general still images (I want to get more involved in photogrammetry, see links below) but I'm adamant about spending my money on something that does an all round good job at an acceptable price. So a camera that has good autofocus in both video and images, proper video stabilization, excellent low light capabilities, NFC (if no touch screen), and a tilt / fully articulated touch screen are amongst other things at the top of my list. I recon the D750 is a real contender and I can pick one up 2nd hand for R14,000 (+/- 1000 USD) but lacks the touch screen (makes selecting the auto focus SO much better but with NFC, then no prob).
      Here's the cameras that popped up when I did a refined search. gyazo.com/4a2fa0f7ebe312c7cce8c54343a421a4.
      Here's some random photography I've done with a cheap Fujifilm S3300 SLR (Does an okay job during the day but low light shots are horribly grainy even at an ISO of 200 and 400)www.flickr.com/gp/158627146@N03/59HKpE
      And the Photogrammetry examples mentioned earlier. (Something interesting, promise! =D) sketchfab.com/stefanbachrodt/models

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i would recommend the a73 if you're doing landscapes. 42mpx are going to look gorgeous.
      if you're taking your camera backpacking something smaller like the a9500 would be great.
      also that new a73 is amazing if you haven't checked it out. def the best bang for buck right now.
      *not sponsored by sony, but they are killing it right now

  • @leecason9468
    @leecason9468 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the canon issue. Never been a fan, but what I see it as is they're an old photography company (predominantly). Sony is predominantly a tech company. So canon holds out on features whereas Sony tries to go for bleeding edge and push the tech boundaries. Canon hass better colors in Jpeg. It's the philosophy of the company. But the problem with Canon's philosophy is it's outdated and archaic.

  • @Enonymouse_
    @Enonymouse_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nikon's have exceptional battery life, particularly if you disable a lot of the auto features and shoot manual.

    • @WilliamLeong
      @WilliamLeong 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      E-Nonymouse my iPhone 4 battery can last for a week too if I just use it for calling.

  • @ggclawyer
    @ggclawyer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Different lens cant show the sensor ability, the Sony 85mm look flat much less micro contrast than the nikon 85mm which is not that sharp nowadays

  • @technicalman
    @technicalman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You compared these with a g master lens on the Sony? Hmm

  • @philowww
    @philowww 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you use 2 wireless clipon but have not a bounce back voice each other?

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magic!!
      In all seriousness, we use some wireless lavs that record directly into the camera. They work great every time!

  • @Einsteinsghost
    @Einsteinsghost 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me it looks like Sony is closer to natural look, while Nikon is overexposing a tad (shutter speed, not ISO, would provide the clue but you guys never touched on it and stuck with ISO).

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for checking our video out. a lot of things are about creative choices. people have different things they're into.

  • @CEEPMDEE
    @CEEPMDEE 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    5Ds/r would be the Canon camera to add to this comparison.

  • @Coach49217
    @Coach49217 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony has a "super large sensor". Biased statement - you know the sensor size is the same. It may have more crammed pixels but it's the same size.

  • @losmatix
    @losmatix 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only Nikon had an EVF, then I would have no need for Sony. I can't wait to go back to Nikon.

  • @MrKockabilly
    @MrKockabilly 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:58 Sony exposed better and Nikon a little blown out. But simply because the setting used does not expose properly for the Nikon.

  • @subhadeep_apd8320
    @subhadeep_apd8320 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wt ? They have 5ds and 5dr

  • @lescobrandon3047
    @lescobrandon3047 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How good is the Sony 3D Tracking AF?

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      We tested the AF tracking on the A7III and it was fabulous. It was able to track our subject in changing light and low-light.

  • @Holtenstein
    @Holtenstein 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do either of them have 10 bit out of the HDMI?

    • @MrHenrikAndersson
      @MrHenrikAndersson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, none of them do. The Panasonic gh5 one does.

  • @DasherVII
    @DasherVII 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Canon 5Ds?

  • @siphomabunda3505
    @siphomabunda3505 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like the presenters are Sony fans/ or Mirror less fans
    .... Be Objective when you compare Cameras. I dont agree with all.

  • @DarrenD777
    @DarrenD777 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to hear your review since you are so knowledgeable about lighting and other gear. I figured that you'd know what you are talking about...but
    @1:32 Please go to DXOMark before you say *anything* about rumors - especially when DXOMark is FREE - there's just no excuses to say anything that isn't backed up by the facts. I've seen other top respected youtubers do the exact same thing (while "testing" focus breathing) - assuming that one brand is better than the other so the *other* brand "must be the one" that is "off".
    BTW - most of the top camera bodies do not actually go below ISO100 - look at the graphs on DXOMark and you will see - they usually flatline at 100 - so the "64" tests out as the exact same ISO as ISO100 (although it's not actually quite ISO 100 as you can see on the graph).
    Check out the data: www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7R-III-versus-Nikon-D850-versus-Hasselblad-X1D-50c___1187_1177_1114 - a comparison of the A7R3, D850 & the Hasselblad X1D and you'll see that the Hassy is ever so slightly closer to the grey line (which is the correct ISO). Since the D850 and the Sony have the same sensor, guess what? That's right - they test out at almost exactly the same ISO on the graph (until at the bottom: ISO 100 where the D850 will actually go down to ISO 40-ish). Sure, your results vary, but then, in the real world (not a laboratory) there will be differences on the assembly line manufacturing and how the electronics react to temperature and other factors...so, that begs the question: *which one has the more accurate ISO in your photos?*
    Let's just hope that DXOMark isn't being "paid off" like Snopes was a few years ago. It's difficult to know who to trust anymore.
    BTW I'm not a fan boi, so please hold any such comments (trolls). I love Nikon and Canon, but we have to look at hard data before we make such comments as made @1:32
    @2:00 I agree that her forehead and other highlight skin-tones do look a bit blown out (maybe that's too strong a word to use) on the D850, but like you said, that's easily fixed in post or just underexpose in camera when ever shooting in direct-sunlight. And remember, we're viewing this on 8-bit TH-cam compressed video - even if my monitor were a $3k monitor that was calibrated every month, it's still not an accurate picture of what the RAW files look like.
    With the auto-focus issues - could it be that she is walking faster than the focus motor can spin the gears to "pull focus"? Or am I wrong here? Also, if you would put her on a motorized cart of some sort (like Hollywood might use) to make sure the speed at which she is moving toward the camera is consistent then you'd have an accurate "apples to apples" comparison.
    @10:52 "...the dynamic range is better..." That may be true in the pictures you have there on your screen (BTW is it calibrated?), but DXOMark gives a very slight edge to the A7R3 at every ISO above ISO400, and below ISO400 they are about neck and neck...in their laboratory. And, DXOMark is trying to test the sensors, not so much the chips/processors inside the bodies of the cameras, and they should be using the full-bit RAW files, so as to be as un-biased as possible.
    @11:20 - yep, the biggest difference is the chip/processors inside each manufacturer's body.
    @11:33 "...it's just physics..." Is it? What about lenses made by German manufacturers for Leica? Those lenses are about half the weight and size (well, maybe 40% less in some cases) and yet they are good glass (*not* accounting for the camera that has now turned into a "rich man's fashion accessory" that they attach to.)
    Oops, ya beat me to it @11:42 - I hit the pause space bar just a couple seconds too soon.
    Sony needs to look into this! Why are we lugging around so many heavy and large lenses...when they don't need to be that heavy or large? Why? That would put them in "the lead" for the weight and size issue.
    "Page him" that's awesome! I haven't heard that word in decades! LOL

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your insights! Your attention to detail is on point.

    • @eddiek.2192
      @eddiek.2192 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And since when Dxomark is not bias and sold their souls?
      If one blindly believes in Dxomark chart, then is lacking field experience...

  • @SimonAndersonphotography
    @SimonAndersonphotography 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video and comparison

  • @jsavak99
    @jsavak99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did Peter Lindberg prefer Nikon D810

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you know why? I read that he used the Nikon D4 & D5.

    • @jsavak99
      @jsavak99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheSlantedLens Just trying to see if you have more insight...Im not aware his reasons except he said its the best quality camera images which he never needs to edit and always strives to get everything right in camera. I watched a nikon sponsored video interview with him on youtube where Peter states he relies on the D810. Is the Nikon D4 a film camera?

  • @shaolin95
    @shaolin95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The R3 has no challenge. The 850 is the best DSLR but still cannot match the R3.

    • @magnuseriksson8081
      @magnuseriksson8081 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For professional work, the Nikon would be better and more consistent as mentioned in this test

  • @dcameron7736
    @dcameron7736 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you kidding when it comes to Nikon being overblown on shots. Really way to much editing and always have to underexposed a shot

  • @hidekelgoldriver7293
    @hidekelgoldriver7293 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sony camera is Better in fotografía y video awesome

  • @TednTin
    @TednTin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    the blue shirt guy had hard time digesting that sony was better than nikon

  • @Ridaz4LifeR6
    @Ridaz4LifeR6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys clearly are Old School in everyway. If you look at Sony's development rate and improvements made to their lineup you will realize they have innovated and continuously improve their cameras. Nikon being a much older camera manufacturer should clearly be on top. Everyone else praises the Sony except you guys. Maybe Next Gen.

  • @MuratKilci
    @MuratKilci 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ??? Photographers don't know what they are doing anymore????(2:24) What does that even mean....

  • @Pinoysoundmachine74
    @Pinoysoundmachine74 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Canon is by far has better skin tones than any of these cameras (nikon/sony) that’s one of the main reason i kept my canon instead of jumping ship to any camera brands.

    • @jacobjohansson86
      @jacobjohansson86 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      But then the dynamic range is shit, and with my 5DSR I could hardly go to ISO 800 without destroying my photos, and already at ISO 400 the noise was bad... this due to that you have to push the shadows to about 100% in Camera Raw to obtain a better balance of shadows. Thats horribly bad!

    • @Pinoysoundmachine74
      @Pinoysoundmachine74 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jacob Johansson Canon 5dsr is not an all around camera, it is more for studio environment camera whereas you cant go beyond iso 100 as much as possible to see better results in terms of overall picture resolution.

  • @oscarbaile6941
    @oscarbaile6941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why compare? Sony camera is your camera from the beginning.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We own Canon cameras as well. They each have their pluses.

  • @ZenrioBelieve
    @ZenrioBelieve 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sony always needs +.3 +.7 compensate

  • @stefanica33
    @stefanica33 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Мне обе нравятся!!!!

  • @nicholasshotwell5340
    @nicholasshotwell5340 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Annoying that Kenneth kept interrupting JP Morgan throughout the video.

  • @KeithCanisius
    @KeithCanisius 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nikon = LOADS of GLASS

  • @piterino78
    @piterino78 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Canon have 5dsr

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, we are going to be reviewing it as soon as it comes out!

  • @mayngan100
    @mayngan100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    sony a7riii picture come out look more real color and more 3d. Nikon D850 images look so flat and no 3d.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sony a7r3 is my personal fav, what do you mean by more 3D?

  • @rauendoza3599
    @rauendoza3599 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry guys but Sony runs the camera game. No other cameras come close to Sonys
    Cameras.

  • @ShutterMafiaStudios1
    @ShutterMafiaStudios1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you said that sony camera is a flagship camera. no its not.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would you consider Sony's flagship camera?

  • @TechWiz1983
    @TechWiz1983 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are such amateurs reviewing pro gear? You couldn’t even use Sony’s eye tracking AF while the model was walking towards you.. That would have DESTROYED the D850. This video was an amateurs joke at best. 😂

  • @KeithCanisius
    @KeithCanisius 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sony doesn't look like a camera, but an electronic gadget

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those cameras are super smart nowadays ;)

  • @jmez927
    @jmez927 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    disregard this video...go to THE CAMERA STORE those Canadians know their shit

  • @reoflex
    @reoflex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Camera store compared these two cameras for image quality and the Nikon was the clear winner. Check it out for yourself.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I can show you several other reviews which put the Sony ahead.

    • @reoflex
      @reoflex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Suzy Siviter I think the output quality of both cameras is so high that it’s a matter of what my Appalachian Mountain, hunting and fishing buddy says, “It’s a matter of your own personal preferveerance.”

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rob O: Yes, I do think though those that have bad things to say about Sony mirrorless havent actually used them and got to know their features, there is so many advantages removing that mirror, all that onscreen info, live histagrams, eye autofocus, silent shutter and such, once you get used to good a mirrorless; you cannot go back to shooting a DSLR, it does feel like a dinosaur. I used to be a Nikon Shooter, so have fond memories, I just wish Nikon and Cannon would take the mirrorless technology seriously; because if they ignore it; Sony will end up the pro photographers choice. Look at fps in these cameras, 20fps on the A9, even the budget mirrorless can do 10fps, all Sony have to do is built an heavier body to balance the big lenses and they will corner the sports photography market, then the only people hanging onto Cannon/Nikon will be those that spent a tonne on glass.

    • @ucanhta1862
      @ucanhta1862 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The dynamic range Sony win for sure. The awb and color rendering seems D850 look better.

  • @dannycastro1826
    @dannycastro1826 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nikon is a sinking ship.. and the D850 is the last hurrah for their dslr line as they begin transitioning to mirrorless. Too bad Sony has a big head start and will be on top for a very long time while everyone else plays "catch up".. lol RIP canon/nikon.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      We'll have to see what they come up with next.

  • @shaolin95
    @shaolin95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Sony has been measured to best the high iso of the Nikon so stop the nonsense

    • @trayantrufev870
      @trayantrufev870 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is simply not true D850 has more detail and more consistent noise pattern at high ISO

  • @briancounts7111
    @briancounts7111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sony is a very high preforming toy camera. Built in obsolescence. No weather sealing. A little camera with a big lens. Totally unbalanced. Just silly.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks for your thoughts. we always encourage people to try and conduct their own tests as well.

    • @AndroidSTheOfficialKnight
      @AndroidSTheOfficialKnight 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. The A7rs are weather sealed.
      2. Obsolescense? The Sony has full frame BSI sensors 5 years BEFORE Nikon
      3. Nikon used to use Sony sensors
      4. You stop your nonsense

  • @allanredford6070
    @allanredford6070 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    use 3k for a vacation.not on thesetech-toys.model is nice-looking :) - the only interesting thing in an otherwise pointless video ngeek-fest.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      We do geek out about our cameras. And they love us for it

  • @subirthapa8542
    @subirthapa8542 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Canon doesn't have a camera , Bottom line #Canon are you listening ? lol

    • @youareslick
      @youareslick 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Subir Thapa did I miss something? Isn't this a Nikon vs Sony video?

    • @subirthapa8542
      @subirthapa8542 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was Joke, That's a sentence I wrote from the Video itself if you would carefully listen :) .

  • @noone-yn6in
    @noone-yn6in ปีที่แล้ว

    your buddy in blue is too biased towards sony. I think sony make great cameras, but its quite clear hes biased

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  ปีที่แล้ว

      Or perhaps he just thought that the Sony is better.

    • @noone-yn6in
      @noone-yn6in ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheSlantedLens at least dont make the bias seem evident. play it off as "if" your neutral and giving an objective pov. something all you utube reviewers dont do. objective. both are good but fanboys should not be reviewing

  • @PixelOrgy
    @PixelOrgy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant u pick a better model?

  • @viramati5831
    @viramati5831 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    A little surprised you didn't use 'eye-AF' in continuous mode for the approach shot as it is truly amazing. I like the smoother images of the the Sony (I presume these were jpeg files) but I should imagine that in RAW they would be an even match with a couple of quick adjustments.

    • @pappel84
      @pappel84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agreed

    • @tom20152
      @tom20152 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's probably didn't know the camera well enough to use eye-AF. Eye-AF in continuous is very important when shooting moving model.

    • @kennethcmerrill
      @kennethcmerrill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We actually spent about an hour trying to figure out how to activate the option in the menu (it was greyed out). Jay P later told me it has to be programmed as a button? Didn't make much sense to me, but at any rate, we gave it a good try! Shame we couldn't figure it out on the day. Shame Sony is so terrible at functionality design.

    • @viramati5831
      @viramati5831 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Again I am surprised at this. Eye AF is by default set to the centre button of the control wheel but most people will move it to another button (in my case I have it set to the AEL button and the button on the lens). I would very politely suggest that a little research and looking at the manual would show you how one of the main features of this camera works. Sony's Eye-AF is probably the best out there and actually really easy to implement and important feature to be discussed in any review

  • @OmahaWayne
    @OmahaWayne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Dont worry in 3-4 years canon will come out with a new 3 year old camera. Just like they did with the 5d4 and 6d2

    • @martinaee
      @martinaee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah... If I were to recommend a DSLR to someone getting into photography it would be a Nikon right now. Especially for the higher end models.

    • @jennygw1883
      @jennygw1883 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Rubi Doo the 5d4 is a fantastic camera.

    • @sergioserramusic
      @sergioserramusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      martinaee but when they start to buy lenses, oh boy, that’s when you start to miss Canon

    • @OmahaWayne
      @OmahaWayne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Jenny Gavin-Wear, It was behind the 2 year old D810 the day it was released. Canon gimped it just make sure it was not going to take away from a single 1DX sale. Canon doesnt build cameras to drive the market anymore, they build cameras that dont challenge other canon cameras. The 5d4 and 6d2 are PERFECT examples of this

    • @jennygw1883
      @jennygw1883 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rubi Doo even my 5d3 doesn't darken exposure for fake high iso, and I'll be shooting while you're changing batteries, lol

  • @airjaff
    @airjaff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If you mention negatives on a Sony camera, you will be trolled!

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just trying to make you dinosaur snappers realize the Clunky Mirror is dead.

    • @trondhelgehie6771
      @trondhelgehie6771 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      airjaff Sony fanboys are the worst!

  • @Blackriver69
    @Blackriver69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just food for thought... 1 min in to the video I see a big disadvantage for the Sony. Using the GM85 is basically going to hinder it's performance with AF. I have this lens and it's basically a studio lens. I don't use it for any kind of motion portraiture. It actually performs faster and more accurately on the R2 which makes me think that some sort of firmware update is in order for that lens on the R3.

  • @visionaryart4416
    @visionaryart4416 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guys have you notice that these days most of the camera companies trying to beat sony a7markiii coz we can get lots of features in budget segment camera see the price difference between nikon d850 vs sony a7 markiii
    But sony is sony this days thats why i chosse best in photo and best videos its upto on us how we operate an cameras 😍📸📷
    Mega pixels doesn't matter but sony 24 megapixel is enough against 45 megapixel of nikon

  • @scb2scb2
    @scb2scb2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let me first say i am clearly on the sony side and owning the a7r iii, But the feeling i get is the sony is in reality the same or close to the D850 if you compare it against nikon features. But the sony doesn't stop there right? IBIS, use of other mount lenses, eye-detect, 10 fps 100% silent mode, pixel shift, much better video, smaller or bigger depending on grip(s) and lenses, EVF with all its pluses, easy switch to crop mode with oversampling for photo and video. So sony can claim its like a D850 but can do it 100% silent, handheld because of IBIS and using eyedetect and if need be with your lenses the walk towards me test would not be a lie right? Nice video all the same the simple fact its not a matter of taste even on basic features is already amazing.

  • @hermansurkis9229
    @hermansurkis9229 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey, I resent that remark. Some of us have failing older eyes. AF is very important.