Camera Comparison: Nikon D810, Canon 5D Mark IV, Sony A7R II

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  • Hi, this is Jay P. Morgan and Kenneth Merrill. Today on The Slanted Lens we've got a camera comparison for still photographers. We're taking a look at the Canon 5D Mark IV, the Nikon D810, and the Sony A7R II. Our goal is to get a direct comparison, so we've got native lenses and our settings are the same on each camera to see how each system inherently stacks up. Leave us a comment or head over to our FB page (bit.ly/20pDWeu) to let us know which you prefer.
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  • @TheProjectFunHouse
    @TheProjectFunHouse 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What I learned is that it doesn't matter which of these cameras I use. They all do a great job, and any client would be happy with the result of any of these cameras.

  • @StreetsOfVancouverChannel
    @StreetsOfVancouverChannel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The Sony also has EYE PRIORITY that further compliments FACE DETECTION...

  • @TheG7thcapo
    @TheG7thcapo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    All great cameras. At the end of the day its the photographer that creates the picture.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is the truth. Thank you for watching.

    • @sirsam9965
      @sirsam9965 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheG7thcapo True! Nonetheless a badly executes comparison!

    • @mohammadhassan2235
      @mohammadhassan2235 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely !

  • @Pepingco
    @Pepingco 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the ISO comparison test. Thanks for the video, keep them coming.

  • @jameslarsen9814
    @jameslarsen9814 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Why are you testing the AF on the Canon with a Slow lens? The Canon 1.2 lenses are slower then their other ones...

    • @williamhumber5890
      @williamhumber5890 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not to mention the focus shift issue with the 50L. They literally couldn't have chosen a worse lens for that test in the entire Canon lineup.

    • @sirsam9965
      @sirsam9965 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Larsen True!

  • @danielwidjaja3510
    @danielwidjaja3510 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Different lens .. different result, cannot talk comparison camera with different lens

    • @keumkusou248
      @keumkusou248 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Daniel Widjaja sigma makes lenses for all 3 cameras. i was wondering why they didnt use a 50mm sigma art lense or something for the test.

    • @matthewbrooks1589
      @matthewbrooks1589 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keumku Sou sigma dont yet make a full frame lens for Sony. Only emount sigma make are for aps-c sensor eg a6500, a6300, a6000 etc. However i heard they may well bring full frame lenses to the mix

    • @user-qr1pn1qg3x
      @user-qr1pn1qg3x 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      D

    • @rubenlaurentiu90
      @rubenlaurentiu90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That s true

  • @iwgl1981JMR
    @iwgl1981JMR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very fun. Thing is the Canon 50 1.2 is moving a lot of glass and it's not meant or known to be a fast focusing lens. Had a 5D3 with that lens and it gave me amazing results aside from slow focus. I use the D810 now and love it.

  • @jerryf1948
    @jerryf1948 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why are there filters on the lenses when testing for quality?

  • @Streuth22
    @Streuth22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Really enjoyed this comparison!

  • @christosphillips3568
    @christosphillips3568 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Funny how everyone compares newly released cameras to the beast called D810 released nearly 4 years ago. Still kicks ars and smokes ALL competition any day of the week. Good job guys keep up the good work.

  • @TheWeddingDiaries
    @TheWeddingDiaries 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nikon D810 still holding up good.. :D

    • @mohammadhassan2235
      @mohammadhassan2235 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SMstudios The Wedding Diaries indeed, still holding the rope as well !

  • @brettolsen615
    @brettolsen615 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making this vid! Must have taken ages to make, good food for thought, cheers!

  • @johnhacking
    @johnhacking 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great jobs, that is what i want to know this three camera. thanks alot

  • @EmoEmu
    @EmoEmu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Less/more contrasty might have something to do with this being shot with three different lenses. The light sensitivity might also be different due to them having different T-stop values.

    • @EmoEmu
      @EmoEmu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Blocky noice" on the Sony:
      Did you set the camera to the default compressed raw files or was the camera set to shoot uncompressed like the other two?

    • @kennethcmerrill
      @kennethcmerrill 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      All the cameras were set to uncompressed RAW

    • @kennethcmerrill
      @kennethcmerrill 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very possible, though I wouldn't doubt that different raw types have slightly different gamma responses in ACR.

  • @patricksadivj
    @patricksadivj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the review. Best one I've seen so far. Really helped me out ... will probably be getting the Sony.

  • @kaimelis
    @kaimelis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    should've used sigmas 50 1.4 art. you didnt focus on the lens aspect at all anyway.

    • @emmanuelomari9511
      @emmanuelomari9511 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nikon is very sensitive they should have gone a stop down on the iso. They used same settings for all.

  • @GabrielCarsner
    @GabrielCarsner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great in depth Review.

  • @hansherrera6969
    @hansherrera6969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    yes you can do manual focus so please learn to use the cameras before you make a video on whats the best or take someone that knows how to use it guys

  • @redaizo
    @redaizo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's exactly the kind of test we all looking for !

  • @mcarthurbeard1571
    @mcarthurbeard1571 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All I care about the camera doing is producing high quality in focus images at the end of the day the subject, lighting and composition is all up to me

  • @jeffrydemeyer5433
    @jeffrydemeyer5433 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is nice to see the 3 year old nikon is still keeping up.
    Also are you guys certain the canon was properly calibrated or that the lens wasn't broken.
    It just was never sharp in the examples you showed us beyond what you would expect from it.

  • @ryanwalvoord
    @ryanwalvoord 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If I remember correctly from my a7rii ,DMF mode allows you to auto focus with manual override .

    • @utsavshah1352
      @utsavshah1352 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      true!

    • @PostColorGear
      @PostColorGear 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andy, the Sony focus peaking is notoriously "loose" - i would just use the focus magnify option and use your eyes for better focus.

    • @ryanwalvoord
      @ryanwalvoord 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I too was let down many times by the peaking , I would tend to shot multiple frames while moving the focus ring to ensure i got a shot.
      Like The Post Color Blog stated the focus magnify became my go to focus method.

    • @edshotsdotcodotuk
      @edshotsdotcodotuk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      DMF or set the AF/MF button up to toggle on and off. i use c1 on my a7r and a6300 as a focus magnifier. works nice a quick and real easy. i like these slanted lens guys but this lack of knowledge is such a shame on their part.

    • @shamwow7996
      @shamwow7996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!

  • @mcol3
    @mcol3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Differences in contrast/colour could be an artifact of the default profile that Lightroom applies. This is explained in Tony Northrup's video "Why Lightroom screws up your photos when you preview them": it's possible that the Adobe default "favours" one camera versus another.

  • @vladimirivanov6353
    @vladimirivanov6353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video,Thank you!!!

  • @mohammadhassan2235
    @mohammadhassan2235 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing I can mention specially about the nikon, this masterpiece still competes with the new outstanding cameras ! This is amazing from Nikon ! Sony has many feature that they cannot demonstrate in one comparison as well, Canon still more friendly Use if we go toward the easiness of DSLRs lineup. Great video for explaining multi-features.

  • @impoze
    @impoze 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting results,
    You can change focus modes on the Sony to use manual focus
    The A7r II also has lock on focus to to track the subject as well as eye AF to get very precise tracking

  • @realitytunnel
    @realitytunnel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this test, overall very useful. One thing which would really help me is to know how you processed these shots in terms of colour. Firstly, were the images RAW or OOC jpegs? If RAW, which processor was used, and which colour profile (or did you create custom colour profiles with, e.g., a colorchecker passport, etc.). Otherwise any of these are great, but I'm more interested in colour science at this point.

  • @Vidas666
    @Vidas666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    those three cams out of my working scope - i do missing my baby D500 , great review thx for shearing

  • @FlyingNikon
    @FlyingNikon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Person who currently shoots both Nikon and Sony, I liked the comparison, even with the various lens issues so many have rightly brought up. I think it could have been done a little differently also, perhaps not only the native lens comparison, but also with the Sigma 50mm art lens; to see the effects of a common lens across the board. While I like my Sony for traveling, I prefer the Nikon overall, but really, isn't that what it comes down to, preference. All are great cameras, there is no panacea in the world of photography. Keep the great videos coming!

  • @ReverseArtist
    @ReverseArtist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very useful even after 6 years. Keep it up!

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear. Thanks for your comment!

  • @iwgl1981JMR
    @iwgl1981JMR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also Nikon can go down the iso64. That's where it has its greatest dynamic range advantage. All great cameras seriously can't go wrong with any of them.

  • @Be-Es---___
    @Be-Es---___ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 17:12 (ISO 12800) the overall picture of the Sony looks best, while the Nikon isn't properly exposed

  • @foodiesgalore3169
    @foodiesgalore3169 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Superb review. Bottom line : If you already have a lens park in either of these companies, stay. They are all great!

  • @justanindianwhosprpud
    @justanindianwhosprpud 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Am I the only one finding the Canon to be the most balanced camera albeit the older sensor? It will take least time in post

  • @mmeerdam
    @mmeerdam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good to see them compared. Was this shot in raw? What iso was the DR at? It's weird the canon has more DR than the Nikon as all other tech reviews say the Nikon has a stop more than the Canon. And i have a suggestion: Try using the face or eye detect or af tracking on continuous on the a7rii while moving backwards with the subject, it will fail completely. I got a hit rate of less than 20% on that. While on my canon i pull these without any trouble.

  • @simianinc
    @simianinc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Nikon looked over-exposed to me. I think using a light meter can be tricky since there is some leeway in meeting the exposure (i.e. the ISO spec allows for a 1/3 stop variance), plus each lens may be letting through more or less light at the same aperture. A grey card would would provide a neutral way to set exposure. It'd be great if you could test with the same lens (say a Sigma 50mm art, with native mounts for each camera)

  • @DaveMcKeegan
    @DaveMcKeegan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can't compare camera sharpness unless the only variable is the sensor. Using native lenses (and having filters on) straight away voids the test. Can only be done fairly with a third party lens like the Sigma 50mm Art, at 2.8 that is tack sharp

  • @MT-jf1tn
    @MT-jf1tn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! So which will be the best camera for print larger than 40x60in

  • @ObelixCMM
    @ObelixCMM 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is two settings on Sony that could be responsible for your AF problem.
    Pre-AF (auto focus is always working) or Eye-Start AF (auto focus starts working when EVF's proximity sensor is activated) turn both of them OFF. From how did you guys used it I'm going to say it is Pre-AF.

  • @brentwpowell
    @brentwpowell 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    One interesting thing to look at would be the "processed" dynamic range of the images to find their sweet spot. For instance, I tend to shoot my Nikon D7100 -2/3 to -1 EV to protect highlights and then boost mid-tones and shadows in post. I'm curious how each of the cameras would perform given their individual sweet spots.

  • @johnjohnson5329
    @johnjohnson5329 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a big problem with the Sony A7RII - it can't track moving subjects to save it's life and before anyone comments, I own the A7RII and it's the greatest camera I have ever used - except when it comes to tracking. Sony G lenses suffer from focus shifting i.e. the focus acquired when the lens is wide open shifts when the lens closes to a smaller preset aperture. So they "solved" this issue, via a firmware update, by changing the focusing system. It now acquires a basic lock wide open, then closes to the preset aperture, refocuses and then tries to track. Unfortunately at f8 the awesome phase detection AF disables and the camera hunts like you wouldn't believe! I was using a 200mm lens at a fashion show and at under 30 feet the area of focus is less than 3 feet using f8. So to ensure I got the clothing sharp I set the aperture at f8 and my lens hunted and missed the focus time and time again! Remember, the models were walking at less than 5mph and it could even track that speed. I switched to my other telephotos, all top lenses and it happened with each and every one of them. Sony are aware of the problem and have been for over a year since they have been inundated with compaints about this.The majority of owners have requested a firmware update allowing a choice of focusing either wide open or closed - and they've done nothing. Don't believe me, try it and see what happens or if you haven't the time go on the net and look it up, you'll find lots of complaints on the subject. So if you want an awesome camera for motionless subjects get the A7RII but if you shoot subjects that move, forget it and buy a DSLR. One last thought... I was considering buying the new A9 and then I realised if Sony have wrecked the A7RII with this via the firmware what's to stop them doing it with the A9? Be wary buying either of them. In the meantime I and many thousands of others are stuck with a camera that's fine as long as what we shoot is basically dead and not moving until Sony get their finger out and fix the problem.
    One unhappy A7RII owner...

  • @joyogude
    @joyogude 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG you guys, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I'm actually trying to decide which of these 3 cameras to buy. I'm normally a Canon girl and own a 70D with a combination of amazing lenses: Canon 10-22, Canon 50mm 1.8, Sigma 30mm 1.4 and sigma 20mm 1.4 so naturally wanted to stay with Canon and go for the 5dmk4 as my 2nd but main camera - for fashion shoots, weddings, etc. However watching all of these videos, I'm starting to realise the sony a7Rii is the best of all 3. I know I can't go wrong with any of them but if I'm able to save £1000 and get another nice glass (hopefully the 24-70) and still end up with a pretty amazing body then I'll be winning! Thanks so much for making this x

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joy, glad it was helpful, thanks for watching. Remember you can get the adaptor for the lenses. Here's our affiliate link: amzn.to/2oFiY3R

    • @michaelchikaawoke5559
      @michaelchikaawoke5559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe.u must have bought the sony?

  • @Bass_Tee
    @Bass_Tee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the 5DIV is great. The touch screen and the new posibilities in the custom functions are awesome! Using Backbutton-Focus: switching from AI servo with specific Focus settings and switch back to One-Shot with specific focus settings is something that is sooooo great!!! This customization is unbelievable!

  • @jensvielmann7662
    @jensvielmann7662 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. The one thing I was missing was a test of how far you can push the raw files in post before they fall apart. Don't ask me why, but I am very interested in that.
    Also interesting: dxo-mark seems to do a different test for dynamic range. They rate the A7RII noticeably lower then the D810. Your test seem to show the opposite.

  • @tonelocrian
    @tonelocrian 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sony looked consistently the warmest color tone wise, The Nikon looked the clearest in comparison.
    The Canon was the most even, contrast wise - but my favorite untouched images were the Sony surprisingly -
    I would love to see a comparison of your favorite top -of -the- line travel/ point & shoot cams next - thanks ;)

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're shooting a review of the Sony A6500, look for it later this month.

  • @acrapid7845
    @acrapid7845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty nice work. Thanks a lot).

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome! Glad you like it!

  • @LukeKroeker
    @LukeKroeker 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should check out 3D AF on the newer Nikon bodies (D750) works phenomenally well tracking moving subjects across the frame.

  • @BarefootMediaTV
    @BarefootMediaTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sony looks best. And what focus mode were you using for the other two cameras since there is no face tracking?

  • @jobanski
    @jobanski 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be honest, at this level going off of image quality or accuracy isn't enough to be a deciding factor. I know many would argue this, but in this video they all performed pretty close to one another. This kind of choice definitely can't be made lightly, or would be made based on the glass you already have.

    • @Reason-fg4ik
      @Reason-fg4ik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I'm always a couple generations behind in photo technology. I bought the D810 because I had all the professional glass from my F5, and the form factor is the same for both bodies.

  • @kevinoreilly9222
    @kevinoreilly9222 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Out of curiosity, did you fine tune the AF system to the lenses before the focus and sharpness testing?

  • @KrishnaPrasadKotti
    @KrishnaPrasadKotti 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I primarily shoot DX camera for birds. I am looking to add a FX camera body for wide angle low light shots. Do you think Nikon d810 will be a good second body or should I look at Nikon 750 / D3/D4 etc..

  • @yogeshsharma9145
    @yogeshsharma9145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U really worked hard

  • @jimatyeo
    @jimatyeo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One very important aspect you don't mention or take advantage of is the picture style setting. You can increase the dynamic range considerably by using the neutral setting on the Canon and Nikon.
    I have not used the Sony, so that I don't know about. Also as someone mentioned using a Sigma lens for all would have been more fair. You are matching a $1500 dollar Canon lens against a $200 dollar Nikon lens. Plus someone also mentioned here that the Nikon kicks butt at ISO 64. It really does. Thanks though for your time on this.

  • @toddroy9558
    @toddroy9558 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What lens were you using? The Lens plays a big part in how well the camera will perform. And if they are the same lens, some are better then another of the same focal length. Glass matters most in a camera's out put.

  • @AlbertKel
    @AlbertKel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    You guys obviously can´t use the Sony. Learn to use the camera before you do a "test".

    • @rupamkonar
      @rupamkonar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      so well said, they really don't know how to use Sony and making such conclusion.

    • @ZaberAnsaryOfficial
      @ZaberAnsaryOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alex Don't claim like you know better bruh...
      TCSTV did one recently. Sony stood 4th and 5th... After Nikon, Sony, and Panasonic...

    • @GreenProd007
      @GreenProd007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alex So true 😂😂

    • @PostColorGear
      @PostColorGear 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zaber - In what regard? Are you referring to the jpg test? That's only one of many factors.

    • @MyMomSaysImSmart
      @MyMomSaysImSmart 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Their inability to use the focusing system was the most frustrating to me. They could have done their out of focus test in a few different ways, yet didn't seem to manage to figure out any of them. DMF would have done it the most easily, also turning off PreFocus and just switching from manual to autofocus with one button press, orrrr setting up back button autofocus (but that's just getting unnecessarily complicated).

  • @hussainalqadhi1198
    @hussainalqadhi1198 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'm surprised that the D810 held with the other 2 cameras, it's 2 years old vs 1 year for sony and couple of months for Canon. i'm starting to love Sony cameras, they're doing very well nowadays, but let's wait for the GH5 and see if will be a game changer once again as it's predecessor was. Very nice comparison between the best cameras in the market, thank you ! And please : guys who say go learn how to manual focus on the Sony or the ones who says yes it does do manual focus, we know !! they were making a point, and the point was that the Sony does not have a dedicated manual focus button like other cameras, you have to go do it from the menu, and the menu is not very user friendly and quiet complicated, everyone agrees with them so get over yourselves !

    • @NorbertTukora
      @NorbertTukora 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are not phones! Because it's a 2 year old model doesn't mean its not the better one. :)

    • @Eccheccaspita
      @Eccheccaspita 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hussain BH Actually, they DO have a dedicated af switch button, even if you may have to configure it, and a quick function button via which you can access a subset of your favorite settings, which you can personalize. Of course, if you never used such a camera for more than some minutes you can't know, but when you are reviewing or comparing it, a little more study of the basic functions is to be expected, I think. Not to say they are biased towards one or another, on the contrary they are luckily quite fair, but this was a bit misleading ;)

    • @hussainalqadhi1198
      @hussainalqadhi1198 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Norbert Tukora Tell that to the couple of years old point and shoot cameras and some entry level which iPhone 7 plus surpasses in stills and especially in video, we all have old cameras and we all know how they stand against a new phone camera such as iPhone 7+ or google pixel XL. the wheel of evolution is going on, nothing can stop it and everything ages !

    • @NorbertTukora
      @NorbertTukora 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No ones talking about point and shoot cameras! The subject was the three cameras in the video.
      Top of the line cameras have a much longer product life cycle than phones. In your first sentence, you were surprised that the 2 years old Nikon held up to the others and I was commenting on that part.

    • @hussainalqadhi1198
      @hussainalqadhi1198 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was an example !! If cameras do not age, then camera manufacturers do not really have anything new to introduce when they release a new camera !! with all due respect you do not make sense !! everyone is saying that the Canon 5D mark iv is somehow a disappointment, even though it has so many new features that its predecessor didn't, why people are saying that ? because they were expecting a game changing camera such as it's predecessors. same thing goes for the GH5 (or maybe it will be just like the GH4 because it's just couple of years old !!!)

  • @elastueltio
    @elastueltio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it be possible to download the raw files or to know the shooting settings? Especially when it comes to ISO sensitivity. Thank you.

  • @atephoto
    @atephoto 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review, thanks. That noise on Canon still looks like coarse grits like I used to have on my 5D Mark II and Mk III. Also correcting something; Having higher pixel pitch (more megapixels pr 35mm) is worse for noise, this is actually a fact you can google yourself. I would love to see all 3 cameras shoot with "flat curve" to measure the DR more accurate, and as far as I know all 3 cameras have "flat profile".

  • @JamesHan81
    @JamesHan81 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    @The Slanted Lens, "the fixed banding" is from using electronic front shutter. the IQ increases noticeably by turning that off. The DMF focus mode will let you override focus, OR.. there's the dedicated button on the BACK called MF/AF which will allow you to toggle the modes. this could have been a nice comparison if it was researched a little better.

  • @Majed750
    @Majed750 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nikon D810 is the best, and still the king of DSLR camra

  • @willoughby5150
    @willoughby5150 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like a kit lens on the Nikon compared to the canon L lens being used at least stick a descent lens on it. We all know the dynamic range of the d810 slaughters the canon if you expose it right in the first place. Yes it exposes brighter so adjust don’t blow out the highlights then say the no detail to recover. Sorry rant over great channel 😊

    • @Reason-fg4ik
      @Reason-fg4ik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I treat my D810 like I do slide film. I expose for the highlights and recover mid tones and shadows in post. Using the D810 I can consistently recover three stops of shadow in post.

  • @Cotictimmy
    @Cotictimmy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great video - I'm still a D700 guy - but it's good to see 'ow the uvver arf live' sometimes. I'm concerned about the 2 photographers being named after Wall St. financial behemoths. Will I become sleazier from having watched this video?

  • @MacKiDDBill
    @MacKiDDBill 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! How does Sony A7R2 focus performance under low light like clubs or bbq parties?

  • @raajchhabra8880
    @raajchhabra8880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every body is good body language and very good tutiral . I very very happy with very good direction and very good stayil. I proud you all team . All the Best.

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the compliment and thanks for watching!

  • @TheMrBennito
    @TheMrBennito 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    c'mon, folks, cheer up .. this test wasn't that bad.. BRENDA. I never owned a Canon, don't ask why, yet it beats everything in 1 department - color. fantastic.

  • @AstroPinoy
    @AstroPinoy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want a workaround for focus test for Sony, why not put an object as closest to the lens can focus and set your focus there as a base?

  • @ZoltanF1LH
    @ZoltanF1LH 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you use compressed RAW on the Sony A7RII? I wonder if that contributes to the banding... Ignore me if you used uncompressed RAW.

  • @Q80splendor
    @Q80splendor 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there , what about the mp. In all camers is it effectively on pictures quietly.

  • @timnguyen4494
    @timnguyen4494 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! does anyone know why this expensive nikon d810 has no wifi and ir?!?!

  • @BlueBomberTurbo
    @BlueBomberTurbo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A7R II high ISO banding is probably from the combination of the AC-powered lighting, the high shutter speed used, and the electronic front curtain shutter (EFCS), not the ISO used. The same problem occurs when using HSS flash at very fast shutter speeds with EFCS. Due to the way it reads the sensor line by line, instead of the shutter opening mechanically starting the exposure, it's like each line is an individual image, while the artificial lighting is continuously pulsing. Turning EFCS off solves the problem. The D810 may also experience this with EFCS on, too. Once global shutter goes mainstream, this won't be a problem.

  • @pasqualeguglielmi4253
    @pasqualeguglielmi4253 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally someone that tests the dynamic range!

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We love that test. It tells a lot.

  • @kanakitbp1154
    @kanakitbp1154 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sony was consistent during all the tests. I'm thinking to buy a sony camera. Please help me choose between Sony A68 (a-mount) and Sony A6000 (e-mount). a-mount lenses are cheaper than e-mount one. what to choose?

  • @iwanssw
    @iwanssw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hi, I like your channel. I like your videos, but this is not the one. This can be ruin your channel, please do the homework. Make a better comparison video.

  • @angadrekhi388
    @angadrekhi388 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the difference at 3:23 between the 3 cameras could also be due to the difference between the transmission of the 3 lenses. older Canons seem to have a lower transmission due to older lens coatings.

  • @NickGranville
    @NickGranville 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Not a good test when you clearly don't know how to use the Sony. Understandable as you both are probably from canon and Nikon backgrounds. One point you didn't mention is the screen on the Sony beats the other two because you can see exactly what you are going to get. No need to do test shots. This is big, as is the eye focus.

    • @ObelixCMM
      @ObelixCMM 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Canon, they both use term "servo AF"

    • @shreenandandas
      @shreenandandas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nick Granville Plus Sony's 4K is way better than the other two, and that's the electronic view finder that lets you preview the exposure, hence it's better than ovf

    • @PostColorGear
      @PostColorGear 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I respect JP and his team. That said, I was a little disappointed. When they couldnt figure out how to use manual focus and Kenneth started to speak with authority, it lost me. This is confusing to people new to the Sony system. Also, saying that Sony is a maze of menus doesn't exude confidence. On a side, but realted note, I never understand why people get so bent out of shape with Sony menus. Canon, for example, are easier to navigate because they have less options.....

    • @NickGranville
      @NickGranville 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Post Color Blog Yep, agree. This video is of a much lower standard that I've come to expect from this channel. I do hope they pick up the standard. I own Sony's A7r, A panasonic GH4, various Canon's G7, 600D, 5d etc, and the menus are all about the same to use. Panasonic is probably the easiest for me, but thats just familiarity. I can find everything in my sony no problem. Battery life is a different story.

    • @kennethcmerrill
      @kennethcmerrill 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A really good point! I can definitely agree there. I do think some people prefer the mirror system, though.
      As for our ignorance about some of the features of the cameras we review, I'm more than happy to admit guilt in that arena! It can take quite a while to become familiar or confident with the tools of our trade, and unfortunately Jay P and I don't have the luxury of playing with many of the cameras we test for more than a day. Naturally our comparisons/reviews will be incomplete, and inevitably we will be mistaken about things. All I can say is we're trying our best, and since this is a new thing we're still trying to figure out how to manage it and make sure we're delivering the info people want. We really appreciate when people who know more about these cameras chime in to add to the conversation or correct something we're wrong about! So thank you!
      As for the menu thing; some of us just prefer simplicity to options. To each his own, eh?

  • @Ademirb123
    @Ademirb123 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know which one is better but Miami might be too hot for Sony. I rented the Sony A7R II and noticed that the camera gets really really hot after shooting 60 to 80 frames continuously. The camera turned off by itself and took about 15 minutes to start. The 94 degrees F: weather might have something to do with it. Good camera though

  • @bilalgilaani
    @bilalgilaani 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, huge thanx for the tutorial n i personally liked D810 but i have 2 questions also:
    1. Which camera u had used to record this video?
    2. Which program u use for video editing and how come such an HD recording consists of only 257.7 MBs?
    I shall be impatinecly waiting for ur reply on both questions......
    Thanks

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. Canon 5D M3
      2. Premiere Pro

    • @bilalgilaani
      @bilalgilaani 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      But sir, i m cimpletely surprised that how come your video is not in GBs but only few MBs??

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TH-cam compression

  • @stumpycatvm7115
    @stumpycatvm7115 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good review, dont need same lenes, native lens test is valid viewpoint

    • @eldeanenaude
      @eldeanenaude 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      what is a native lens?

  • @onylroque
    @onylroque 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me gustan las tres.Ahora por que no utilizaron el mismo tipo de lente para las 3 camaras

  • @kimberlynorton
    @kimberlynorton 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to see the same video done with FUJI XT2

  • @bigmaxcc
    @bigmaxcc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got da canon 5ds hands down this mammoth of a beast

  • @londonaustralia2287
    @londonaustralia2287 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @trevorpinnocky
    @trevorpinnocky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sony: press the MF/AF override button. then hit the shutter for AF. simple.
    I always look forward to content you produce, because you have no tech bias whatsoever, which is the way it should be.
    The thing that stood out to me the most is how different the color is between all of them. Even balanced at 6000K clearly all the cameras interpret very differently.
    I'm not one of the guys who believes any manufacturers color science is 'better', only that the each prefer a specific look which they intentionally want to be different. After all, who buys a Nikon for Canon colors, right?

    • @kennethcmerrill
      @kennethcmerrill 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a ton for the tip Trevor! We were going nuts trying to figure it out.
      The difference in color was definitely the thing that interested me the most. At this level, all the cameras should perform well enough for most people's needs; but I'm always curious about color differences. It's one of the few things that still really sets one camera apart from the next these days.

  • @brettolsen615
    @brettolsen615 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    After watching this, I was wondering do you think you could do something similar for entry level cameras, for those of us looking to get into photography as a hobby? Maybe targeted at a certain price range and updated for the end of 2016? That would be super helpful & useful!!

    • @TheSlantedLens
      @TheSlantedLens  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are expanding our range!

    • @brettolsen615
      @brettolsen615 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for this! I run a photography club here in Hong Kong and like to keep up to date on good gear for entry level photographers, once again thanks for all your hard work! :)

  • @cocinatopia5775
    @cocinatopia5775 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good review, I like the neutral style approach.

  • @kkkhalid82
    @kkkhalid82 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The filter on Canon's lense makes it less sharp...

  • @yogarajply1
    @yogarajply1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sony a7r ii for wedding

  • @cocinatopia5775
    @cocinatopia5775 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    put the a99ii to a test please!!

  • @ramondeuzravanzo7200
    @ramondeuzravanzo7200 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    may i know what lens they used in the sony camera

  • @KevTCC
    @KevTCC 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you verify the AF micro adjustment on the Canon?
    My 5D3 is much sharper than what you are showing from the 5D4. I don't own a 5D4 yet but a good friend who shoots sports and landscape has one and his images are deadly sharp. Something is wrong with your setup.

  • @David-um8zt
    @David-um8zt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's wrong that more megapixels equal less noise. This is why the A7S only packs a 12MP sensor. Less megapixels=less noise.

  • @AndrJacobsen
    @AndrJacobsen 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot. I very much appreciate a test, which is not primarily focusing on labs and data, but on pictures - colors, contrasts, sharpness, grain. Very helpful to see comparably produced pics from different cameras. Would - of course - be interesting to understand, which lenses have been used.

  • @azerbouf
    @azerbouf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am a Nikon guy, but Canon skin color tones are really awesome.

  • @mikemlynch
    @mikemlynch 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It seemed to me that, at most ISOs, the D810 appeared brighter than the other two cameras, making it seem more blown out. Someone interested in comparing the quality of the image might want to balance the light better in each image and make sure the average light on each face was comparable. For example, the Sony image had the most pleasing facial closeup, with a better balance of shades. This might just be a Nikon in-camera JPG-creation artifact, but I can't compare the different cameras myself. I assume you did no after-capture processing.

  • @JefferyAHoward
    @JefferyAHoward 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked this comparison video. I see some unkind comments but that is OK because I really enjoyed the video. The Cameras were given a straight up comparison and all of them did very well. Whether you own a Nikon, or a Canon or a Sony, it comes down to what you can do with it to capture a moment of time you see.
    When I was learning photography in the 70s with 35mm film and iso (asa) 400 Tri-X, trust me it was a lot harder then than it is today with these cameras that shoot everything good at iso 25600. Any of the cameras in this comparison are far better tools than we had then. Any of them will give you a much better chance of capturing that important moment in your life or your family's life, than we ever thought possible 40 years ago when i was learning.
    I don't see this video as being a choice of which one is best for everyone or for anyone. I see it as a demonstration of three incredibly capable tools that are somewhat similar and yet somewhat different. Mr Morgan and Mr Merrill are just providing free and helpful information for you to decide which of these great tools might help you to capture the moments of your life.
    I am just an ametuer photographer that takes pictures of family gatherings and my opinion doesn't carry much weight, but over the last couple of years, J P Morgan's videos have helped me to be much better at what I do.

  • @pennynichols9728
    @pennynichols9728 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    all very good cameras, I would use any one of them on shoots

  • @kings7man
    @kings7man 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i believe that the Sony will work with Canon lens using the Metabits adaptor . Has anybody used this camera this way , if so how have they found it ?

  • @castieldiallo2945
    @castieldiallo2945 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    not biased because i own the d810, but it came in first or a very close second. yes, the focus was a little weaker than the sony. overall a revised d800 still is a better overall camera for still than the 2016 cameras.

  • @krs48
    @krs48 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the focus issue you need to use DMF.

  • @takingpictures4536
    @takingpictures4536 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    please open up those RAW pics in ACR, and increase the shadows. You will see what a wide dynamic range means if you come to the sony and nikon...