Very important video - and good points all! The drone, talking etc is what airplane pilots and scuba divers call task-loading and it’s a frequent contributor to accidents especially on new activities we are not adapted to yet by instinct. Wear your gear guys.
This is all great advice. Thanks for the details of foot placement and explaining the cause - I've only had a wing breech while going straight but it's good to know what to watch out for. Thanks for posting it.
I ride pretty often and it is definitely fine to breach the wingtip IF your stance is correct. In additional to the staggered foot position mentioned in the video, You have to take a low, squatted stance and lower your center of gravity during deep carves. Standing high up without bent knees will create a high center of gravity over the mast and you’ll fall on top the board like this video if a wing tip breaches. If you’re squatted, you will fall safely onto your back into the water if you breach a wing on a heel side carve, for example. Or you’ll just ride the breach out and it’s fine. Just adding this for anyone new to seeing this video.
@@NeilSeaver sure but there is a big difference between being an advanced rider trying to get the tip of the wing out of the water while carving hard and being a beginner that doesn't really know how things goes. This video is for them begginers so they know what can happen when they go on their first efoil sessions.
I had the same wipeout (falling on edge of the board) as a beginner wing-foiler. Out for weeks with very painful rib bruising. Had helmet on but no impact vest. As a beginner foiler you tend to fall a lot. After a while you get sick of falling and you start to try "to save it" but that's when it can get dangerous.
Same injuries and same cause but such a world between wing foiling and efoiling. Looks close but it's so different. To me the closest thing to efoiling (in terms of how you move your body on the board) is wakesurfing.
I tried to save a breach a few days ago and ended up front of the board. The nose drilled me in the head and I now have a dozen stitches in my forehead. I just as easily could have passed out and drowned so always wear a helmet. I consider myself pretty experienced and didn't think this would happen to me.
I've done that a number of times. Mostly rib pain even with a vest. I've been lucky to avoid the wing. Those direct falls are mostly happening for newer riders. Definitely keep your focus. Thanks for the video!
Great detail on this video. I have had that same fall while foiling as well as wake foiling. Cut my knee as well. In your fall I would add that the perfect storm came together where as you looked back your height raised, then you returned your head to forward and as that is happening for a nano of a moment you seem to initiate a carve to toeside. All the while very high with, as you stated, your feet too close to centerline and too much weight on back foot. This caused left wing to 1st breech and then there is a moment that you react to left wing breech and in the warble of the board there is a right wing breech. With just too much height, and that with pesky back foot not engaged and not anchored (not off centerline enough) a fall is eminent. I have trained myself to press down with front foot if I want to look somewhere other than where I'm going. Fascinating to see a fall that I have experienced. Also a student of mine had the same fall and broke a rib after hitting side of board with chest.
We had a guy at the local beach lose a thumb from the propeller a few weeks ago. Not sure if he removed the shroud or not. They couldn’t find his thumb, the water was deep. These things can bite. I sand the tips of my foil down to make them dull. Also had a friend who got hit in the neck when his wing board blew over on the beach. He had the wing leash attached to the mast but the mast was to windward. It nicked the artery in neck and 3 stitches required for his skin.
Ouch! My first thought after seeing your fall was rib fracture. I bet you felt pretty beat up next day! I’m happy it didn’t kill you or blind you or chop your head off. I have never tried this or any other board, just normal skiing, but as a former dancer and therapist I know everything there is about balance and contact with your feet. Men are often much worse than women on this but it’s actually very easy to become an expert: you just take time every day to feel how you are standing, that your balance is present and your core is grounded without restricting any movements. If you ever have to learn others how to foil and you meet someone who is really bad at it, who can’t seem to concentrate or know where their feet are, let them go home with red socks and let them sleep with it. Walking in red shoes works good as well. Weirdly enough it works wonder at grounding you, and to find your balance and contact with your foot soles. It looks so fun to do this! Be careful! Your family loves you!
Yes I do teach others because I am running an efoil school for 2 seasons now. It goes very well and most people get to fly standing within the 1st hour. Yes after this fall I had to take a whole month of rest. My rib hurted like hell. I fell on the side of the board and I am glad it's an epp foam board rather than a carbon board. THANK YOU for your comment! Try efoiling when you get a chance.. I am skateboarding, snowboarding and wakeboarding for very long but efoiling is the craziest feeling I ever had. It's by far the best toy on the water at the moment.
I did the same think on holiday , my first time attempting a turn , some how did not get hurt . I went back to the beach and asked about what happened no answers . This is the first time I have been told what happened . After this happened I used front foot straps was not my plan but stopped a face plant .
What part of the board cut you like that ?? The mast or the front or back wing or propeller? Christ now im worried about letting my girlfriend try foiling 😢
Good explanation. I think the issue really occurred when you turned backwards to check the drone. This exacerbated your very slight backwards stance and altered the attitude of the wings further, resulting in the breaches. I bet you had some 'oh shit' thoughts going through you mind! What contacted your knee-cap - I am assuming it was the leading edge of the wing? You mentioned soreness in the chest area ... I assume this may have been the mast or you landed on the side of the board. I know it all happened very fast - but you did fight the fall a little rather than going with it. Stay safe amigo!
I learned the hard way, especially when learning to carve on my Fliteboard Pro. Get some STX shin guards that slide under your wetsuit - those shin injuries are super-painful.
I crashed last week and ended up with 12 staples in my head. The error was that I didn't wear a helmet, but also needing to learn how to always bail to the side and not out in the path of the foil
@@michaelvadney5803 I just did this yesterday, probably going to fast but ended up getting drilled by the nose on my forehead and got 12 stitches. Just luck it didn't knock me out and drown as no one else was around. I had to ride 2 miles on my belly to get home and get to the ER. I think I'm a pretty good rider but when you are using it at higher speeds it is impossible to bail correctly all the time. Always wear a helmet, I didn't but always will if I get back out there.
No damage to the mast/wing with that impact? That’s a good silver lining lol. Glad you’re alright and appreciate the advice on how to avoid it in the future! 🤙
The biggest mistake I see here is the stance. Your two feet are perfectly line up in the center of the board which significantly diminishes the ability to correct if and sudden imbalance happens. With two feet in the center you are just relying on your ankles to correct the imbalance, its just not enough force. Instead place your back foot closer to the side edge in front of you and your left foot closer to the side edge behind you. That way when the board wobbles you can use all the force of your legs to correct the imbalance.
joder! estaba pensando de comprar uno.....estoy harto de choques de bici de montana....pero ahora veo como es lo mismo problema con efoil.🤣 but looks fantastic fun and such freedom. but yeah, if you have to wear protective clothing then it's not for me.
Aaahh jaja pero nooo no tiene nada k ver con la bici de montaña. El efoil es muy fácil y eso solo pasa a unos tontos como yo aprendiendo sin darle más respeto al bicho! Prueba lo 1x por lo menos la sensacione es única. Si buscas un efoil en España o si quieres probarlo contactame tengo buenas ofertas para ti ahora mismo 🤙
Seaweed is a problem obviously will get around ur mast and into your propeller so best to avoid these areas. No danger but forces you to interrupt the ride and remove it. No seaweed free areas on that lake?
@@NEPTUNEFOIL I disagree, this can be super dangerous. I live on a river and sometimes your cruising along and a leaf or seaweed hits the prop and you loose speed and drop instantly, if your going 18-20 mph you end up in front of the board and can get drilled (I have a dozen stitches in my head to prove it). If you are on a body of water with debris or seaweed I recommend removing the prop guard as that helps with those sudden drops in power which result in uncontrolled falls. You have the added risk of the propeller but that is less likely than the board or wings hitting you. No matter how good you are if you hit something under the water while you are banking at 18-20mph you cannot control how you fall. Proper protective gear is a must.
@@matthewharris9873 well.. What you are describing is correct but when you are skilled enough it won't be too much of a problem and also you are supposed to release the trigger as soon as you are loosing balance so very little chances to get hit hard if you do so.
Hola Egon! Esto es el pantano de Ulldecona al limite de Cataluña y de La Comunidad Valenciana. Te lo recomiendo es un lugar espectacular 😍 Donde vives tu?
@@egon9057 de vez en cuando doy cursos en Valencia y dentro 2-3 semanas voy a entregar una tabla ahí. A lo mejor organizamos una salida en la zona 👍 644 es mi móvil.. mándame un WhatsApp!
Whyvwould.a lawsuit be around the corner you do this at your own risk people can not go and sue someone because they crashed one that's just stupid you csn see this has potential to harm you when you buy one
Very important video - and good points all! The drone, talking etc is what airplane pilots and scuba divers call task-loading and it’s a frequent contributor to accidents especially on new activities we are not adapted to yet by instinct. Wear your gear guys.
Thank you for your comment mate!
This is all great advice. Thanks for the details of foot placement and explaining the cause - I've only had a wing breech while going straight but it's good to know what to watch out for. Thanks for posting it.
You are most welcome.. Thanks for watching!
I ride pretty often and it is definitely fine to breach the wingtip IF your stance is correct. In additional to the staggered foot position mentioned in the video, You have to take a low, squatted stance and lower your center of gravity during deep carves. Standing high up without bent knees will create a high center of gravity over the mast and you’ll fall on top the board like this video if a wing tip breaches. If you’re squatted, you will fall safely onto your back into the water if you breach a wing on a heel side carve, for example. Or you’ll just ride the breach out and it’s fine. Just adding this for anyone new to seeing this video.
@@NeilSeaver sure but there is a big difference between being an advanced rider trying to get the tip of the wing out of the water while carving hard and being a beginner that doesn't really know how things goes. This video is for them begginers so they know what can happen when they go on their first efoil sessions.
@@NEPTUNEFOIL it’s kind of terrifying to breach as a beginner
I had the same wipeout (falling on edge of the board) as a beginner wing-foiler. Out for weeks with very painful rib bruising. Had helmet on but no impact vest. As a beginner foiler you tend to fall a lot. After a while you get sick of falling and you start to try "to save it" but that's when it can get dangerous.
Same injuries and same cause but such a world between wing foiling and efoiling. Looks close but it's so different. To me the closest thing to efoiling (in terms of how you move your body on the board) is wakesurfing.
I tried to save a breach a few days ago and ended up front of the board. The nose drilled me in the head and I now have a dozen stitches in my forehead. I just as easily could have passed out and drowned so always wear a helmet. I consider myself pretty experienced and didn't think this would happen to me.
I've done that a number of times. Mostly rib pain even with a vest. I've been lucky to avoid the wing. Those direct falls are mostly happening for newer riders. Definitely keep your focus.
Thanks for the video!
Thank you for your comment! Yeah def begginer mistake
Great detail on this video. I have had that same fall while foiling as well as wake foiling. Cut my knee as well. In your fall I would add that the perfect storm came together where as you looked back your height raised, then you returned your head to forward and as that is happening for a nano of a moment you seem to initiate a carve to toeside. All the while very high with, as you stated, your feet too close to centerline and too much weight on back foot. This caused left wing to 1st breech and then there is a moment that you react to left wing breech and in the warble of the board there is a right wing breech. With just too much height, and that with pesky back foot not engaged and not anchored (not off centerline enough) a fall is eminent. I have trained myself to press down with front foot if I want to look somewhere other than where I'm going. Fascinating to see a fall that I have experienced. Also a student of mine had the same fall and broke a rib after hitting side of board with chest.
Yup.. I don't know if I broke a rib but it damn hurted for a good 5 weeks. Thank you for your comment!! Have fun and be safe mate!
landed on fliteboard foils twice, high siding them sucks. wetsuit, life jacket and helmet minimise the impact substantially.
We had a guy at the local beach lose a thumb from the propeller a few weeks ago. Not sure if he removed the shroud or not. They couldn’t find his thumb, the water was deep. These things can bite. I sand the tips of my foil down to make them dull.
Also had a friend who got hit in the neck when his wing board blew over on the beach. He had the wing leash attached to the mast but the mast was to windward. It nicked the artery in neck and 3 stitches required for his skin.
Sounds fun (😬)
Even if you have the propeller guard on (the shroud) loosing a finger can happen if you don't release the trigger when loosing balance
Holy shit are you serious?? Now I'm really worried about my girlfriend trying one😢
Thank you very important video actually, especially how you say people should have an impact vest and helmet at least
Thank you! Glad if it helps.
fantastic. explanations ... I received my board yesterday . and your advices will help me ..
Awesome thank you! Have fun with it!! Cheers!
Ouch! My first thought after seeing your fall was rib fracture. I bet you felt pretty beat up next day! I’m happy it didn’t kill you or blind you or chop your head off.
I have never tried this or any other board, just normal skiing, but as a former dancer and therapist I know everything there is about balance and contact with your feet. Men are often much worse than women on this but it’s actually very easy to become an expert: you just take time every day to feel how you are standing, that your balance is present and your core is grounded without restricting any movements.
If you ever have to learn others how to foil and you meet someone who is really bad at it, who can’t seem to concentrate or know where their feet are, let them go home with red socks and let them sleep with it. Walking in red shoes works good as well. Weirdly enough it works wonder at grounding you, and to find your balance and contact with your foot soles.
It looks so fun to do this! Be careful! Your family loves you!
Yes I do teach others because I am running an efoil school for 2 seasons now. It goes very well and most people get to fly standing within the 1st hour.
Yes after this fall I had to take a whole month of rest. My rib hurted like hell. I fell on the side of the board and I am glad it's an epp foam board rather than a carbon board.
THANK YOU for your comment! Try efoiling when you get a chance.. I am skateboarding, snowboarding and wakeboarding for very long but efoiling is the craziest feeling I ever had. It's by far the best toy on the water at the moment.
I did the same think on holiday , my first time attempting a turn , some how did not get hurt . I went back to the beach and asked about what happened no answers . This is the first time I have been told what happened . After this happened I used front foot straps was not my plan but stopped a face plant .
What part of the board cut you like that ?? The mast or the front or back wing or propeller? Christ now im worried about letting my girlfriend try foiling 😢
Excellent excellent excellent I love it when people make good videos that are helpful and allow us to learn your superstar thank you
Thank you for your kind words Paul 🙏
Awesome footage & very helpful advice ❤
Thank you Marcus 👍
Good explanation. I think the issue really occurred when you turned backwards to check the drone. This exacerbated your very slight backwards stance and altered the attitude of the wings further, resulting in the breaches. I bet you had some 'oh shit' thoughts going through you mind! What contacted your knee-cap - I am assuming it was the leading edge of the wing? You mentioned soreness in the chest area ... I assume this may have been the mast or you landed on the side of the board. I know it all happened very fast - but you did fight the fall a little rather than going with it. Stay safe amigo!
I learned the hard way, especially when learning to carve on my Fliteboard Pro. Get some STX shin guards that slide under your wetsuit - those shin injuries are super-painful.
Did you cut knee on foil or on the board itself?
Probably with the back of the front wing which is pretty sharp.
I crashed last week and ended up with 12 staples in my head. The error was that I didn't wear a helmet, but also needing to learn how to always bail to the side and not out in the path of the foil
When you bury the nose at speed it's almost instantaneous. It's difficult to bail correctly when it catches you off guard so quickly
Holy shit you got me really worried now, especially about getting my girlfriend to try one out 😢
@@michaelvadney5803 I just did this yesterday, probably going to fast but ended up getting drilled by the nose on my forehead and got 12 stitches. Just luck it didn't knock me out and drown as no one else was around. I had to ride 2 miles on my belly to get home and get to the ER. I think I'm a pretty good rider but when you are using it at higher speeds it is impossible to bail correctly all the time. Always wear a helmet, I didn't but always will if I get back out there.
Thanks for theese advices. I begin tomorrow
Awesome!! Let me know how it went 👍
No damage to the mast/wing with that impact? That’s a good silver lining lol. Glad you’re alright and appreciate the advice on how to avoid it in the future! 🤙
Nop nothing took it like a boss 🦾 only damages on me 😅
Thanks for the video!
Superb honest video very well done
Thank you mate appreciate it!
The biggest mistake I see here is the stance. Your two feet are perfectly line up in the center of the board which significantly diminishes the ability to correct if and sudden imbalance happens. With two feet in the center you are just relying on your ankles to correct the imbalance, its just not enough force.
Instead place your back foot closer to the side edge in front of you and your left foot closer to the side edge behind you. That way when the board wobbles you can use all the force of your legs to correct the imbalance.
@@RafaelGarcia-uz1we Thank you! This is exactly what I'm explaining in this video 👍
I learned a lot - thanks!
You are most welcome Tim. Thanks for watching!
Nice video!
Thank U I appreciate the comment 🤙
joder! estaba pensando de comprar uno.....estoy harto de choques de bici de montana....pero ahora veo como es lo mismo problema con efoil.🤣 but looks fantastic fun and such freedom. but yeah, if you have to wear protective clothing then it's not for me.
Aaahh jaja pero nooo no tiene nada k ver con la bici de montaña. El efoil es muy fácil y eso solo pasa a unos tontos como yo aprendiendo sin darle más respeto al bicho! Prueba lo 1x por lo menos la sensacione es única. Si buscas un efoil en España o si quieres probarlo contactame tengo buenas ofertas para ti ahora mismo 🤙
Protecting clothing I never use. Check out my Instagram @neptunefoilxperience
@@NEPTUNEFOIL hombre gracias..... lo pensaré🤟🏻
Beautiful lake, where is it?
It's called "La Senia Dam" or "Embalse de Ulldecona" Castellón Province in Spain..
Don’t look at the camera!
Strike a pose!
Waydoo that is a good efoil don't give problem at all
How dangerous is it to Efoil on a lake that has seaweed?
I really want one of these, they seem like a dream come true.
Seaweed is a problem obviously will get around ur mast and into your propeller so best to avoid these areas. No danger but forces you to interrupt the ride and remove it. No seaweed free areas on that lake?
@@NEPTUNEFOIL I disagree, this can be super dangerous. I live on a river and sometimes your cruising along and a leaf or seaweed hits the prop and you loose speed and drop instantly, if your going 18-20 mph you end up in front of the board and can get drilled (I have a dozen stitches in my head to prove it). If you are on a body of water with debris or seaweed I recommend removing the prop guard as that helps with those sudden drops in power which result in uncontrolled falls. You have the added risk of the propeller but that is less likely than the board or wings hitting you. No matter how good you are if you hit something under the water while you are banking at 18-20mph you cannot control how you fall. Proper protective gear is a must.
@@matthewharris9873 well.. What you are describing is correct but when you are skilled enough it won't be too much of a problem and also you are supposed to release the trigger as soon as you are loosing balance so very little chances to get hit hard if you do so.
Good video thanks for the advice!!!
You are most welcome Hugo
Does anyone know the location?
Looks amazing!
Sure do 😉 it's the Senia Dam (also called Ulldecona) in Spain (about 200km down south Barcelona near the coast). Thanks for watching!
Haven’t gone off that way yet, fortunately. Now I know not to. 👍
Hola, feo golpe, también tuve uno igual.... quería consultarte donde es que estabas? Desde ya muchas gracias
Hola Egon! Esto es el pantano de Ulldecona al limite de Cataluña y de La Comunidad Valenciana. Te lo recomiendo es un lugar espectacular 😍
Donde vives tu?
Estoy en Valencia. El lugar se ve increíble!!! Creo que mañana voy !! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 Espero cruzarte pronto, yo tengo un Lift 5.0. Saludos
@@egon9057 de vez en cuando doy cursos en Valencia y dentro 2-3 semanas voy a entregar una tabla ahí. A lo mejor organizamos una salida en la zona 👍
644 es mi móvil.. mándame un WhatsApp!
Like in Chinese boxing stance 💪💪💪
Zé zuber chénial 👌
Thanks!
I see in the video that foots are not in the right position
And is more easily to lose you balance ☺️✌🏿
Exactly 👍 where do you Efoil?
In Greece
Peace to flyce to nice!
Awouwanaschpewmew!
a guy in Kona just cut his thumb off. lawsuits around the corner, stocks will take a dump
Whyvwould.a lawsuit be around the corner you do this at your own risk people can not go and sue someone because they crashed one that's just stupid you csn see this has potential to harm you when you buy one
The same old story. It doesn't look good to be safe.
It isn't safe to live.. But yes you are right style matters 😅