17:04 He didn't intentionally kill himself. The Joker wasn't even his last role. He was on a bunch of pills already for his insomnia and he accidentally took the wrong mixture of pills(benzos included which can be very dangerous when abused)
32:01 I think the Joker put it best in the Killing Joke. "Sometimes I remember it one way, some times I remember it another. If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice".
🤔That's why I don't accept Joaquin Phoenix's Joker as a real Joker movie because the real Joker doesn't have a true origin story, he has multiple choices😁
@@WillsonT011 your logic is backwards. The Joker is a man, he therefor has a "backstory" implicitly. The "multiple choice" nature of his backstory is a result of his delusions, which is evident in Joker. It would make sense that the longer he lives within a web of delusion, the more uncertain his memories would become.
@@Negentropy369 The Joker is not a man, he is a comic book character. Therefore he doesn't 'have' to have a backstory nor is it 'implicit' that he does have a true origin, quite the opposite in fact.
I would say Dark Knight Rises is the Best Batman movie. Dark Knight or ZSJL is the best movie with Batman in it. And there both probably the best superhero movies. The Batman is probably the best Gotham movie besides Batman Returns
Christian Bale has done a couple interviews saying that Heath was himself when he wasn't filming. He didn't go too deep in the role (those were just rumors). Heath did have some trouble sleeping and was taking sleeping pills and had an accidental overdose when mixing medicine, it was an accident
@@SoVHitman uh yes or he wouldn’t have commented that? Trouble sleeping you get prescribed pills or get them another way, build a tolerance / mix the wrong ones & overdose not that tough to understand, a classic tale of tolerance or mis dosing & overdosing, nothing new
@@scotthill1600 i mean i get that but hes a/was a method actor so once in character, he cant get out till hes done with the role. Im sure he was normal when not recording but idk, it seems like he got so into it, maybe after shooting was done, he couldnt get out. I believe it was accidental obviously too, but its hard to believe it wasnt also the role adding on to the pills and sleeping stuff.
@@sparkie4604 well thats a given but it just seems they would say nicer things now and after his passing to maybe help ease ppl dealing with it. Or something like that
I’m not the Joker, but if I was, I feel like I would feel more successful getting one of the boats to give up their morals and let Gotham see them actually murder the other boat and have to live with it the rest of their lives.
gmdwill. Well, if you look at it this way, they'd still be murdering people on their own boats if indeed they had the detonator to their own boat. And Joker wanted to make an example of that to the entire city. That someone Did push the button. Point is, it was a win win for the Joker either way. Joker lost when no-one pushed the button. So he was prepared to do it himself anyway. Till of course, Batman intervened.
he actually auditioned to play Batman originally but Nolan thought Bale was a better choice, but he loved Cillian's audition and wanted him in his film. Very cool.
The actor for the mayor isn’t wearing eyeliner. He’s just Cuban and has crazy eyelashes haha. He’s also in LOST which I don’t know if you guys would ever be interested in doing for the channel but that would be amazing!
@@sarahe1491 i havent seen any reactors watch lost. Ill have to browse around. It's a show that gets sillier as time goes on but the character development and acting is second to none in my opinion. Very emotional and relatable show.
The scars on the Joker are often referred to as a "Glasgow Smile," originated by gangs in Scotland in the 1920s and 1930s. A blade is taken, and a cut is made from the corner of the mouth, upwards towards the ear, typically on both sides. The question now becomes, was it self-inflicted, or did someone really give him those scars.
Harvey Dent is LEGITIMATELY a good guy that was trying to actually better Gotham. He's that way in EVERY adaption of this pantheon, he's a genuine good soul that experiences a mental break tragedy that creates Two-Face. His main personality occasionally breaks through to lament what he's become right before Two-Face takes control again.
I loved aaron eckharts performance but its shadowed by heath’s. With good reason, his joker is the best. But i thought the harvy/2face character was really well done and original. Especially the transition and that book frame hint in the beginning
No such thing as good and evil. Humans are risen apes not fallen angels. We do what we do, good and evil for animalistic reasons. If you don't do wrong, you have exposed yourself to the temptation that exists in the world and are sheltered.
Every time I see ppl ask “how did he sneak a gun into a courtroom?” When the mob guy points the gun at Harvey in the beginning, I think we all forget it’s GOTHAM😂 not necessarily hard to sneak a gun in the most corrupt city lol especially if your mob-connected
I went to court when I was 18 & had my parents with me, they work in local government & know almost all of the cops. When we got to security parents & the security had a short talk bc they know each other & one of the police officers even apologized that we had to be there for court. wasn’t put through the metal detectors or searched in any kind of way. Could have easily had a gun in my bean boots or just under my jacket in the waistband, could have had an ankle holster. (I obviously would never do that but could have) given there’s 3/4 cops in the lobby, another 2 at the doors into the courtroom & 3 more in the court room with the local sheriff all in uniform & armed & the sherrifs department & city police headquarters a block away. All just to say that yeah corrupt cops or knowing the right ppl & it would be extremely easy to get a gun into a court room. I was proven innocent in court & my record is clean btw
@@slmott399 Kinda true, but a lot was once made of "carbon fibre" guns, just as a lot is made now of 3D-printed "ghost guns". I think Hugh Laurie had the best response to the idea in his book "The Gun Seller" (IIRC): "Even if the gun doesn't get picked-up, it's hard to pass-off the 17 rounds in the magazine as lipstick refills". Same kinda deal with "ghost guns"; wake me when they manage to 3D print a barrel, a chamber, the propellant-containing section of a round, or the rest of the components of a gun that must withstand extremely-high pressures and temperatures and therefore have to be metal, meaning they have to be cast in large-scale easily-monitorable facilities (zip guns are a bit of a different story (eg. the device used to assassinate Shinzo Abe some years back), but they're only good for one shot, and even they need metal barrels and chambers). In fact, might be accurate to say that 3D "ghost guns" are as much of a threat as zip guns ever were, ie. "not much".
@@michaelccozens Printed guns are pretty much expected to be single shot, so their durability is not so much an issue. But getting the bullet through the detector would still be hard.
They showed the video on the news because it gave Joker's terms for not killing more people. In that situation, they would show it. Because if they didn't get his message out then the news station could be held liable in the event of more killings if they didn't do everything in their power to prevent it..
26:48 They looked. Such an impressive moment because until then the Joker had been, well, a joker, playing around but still dangerous. Here he is truly angry, and conveyed perfectly by Ledger.
1:04:21 There were bullets, but if you notice, he was holding the hammer in place with his finger, so even if Dent pulled the trigger, the gun wouldn't shoot: 1:04:11
There is a theory btw that Dent knew the Joker was holding the hammer and that was the whole point, he was supposed to notice. The joker was doing the same thing to Dent that Dent did the whole film to other people prior to that: offering a fake opportunity with the coin. The toss of the coin was useless because Dent never had a real chance of killing the joker, just like Dent never gave a real chance to other people before that with the trick coin. Basically the joker was proving the point he made earlier to Dent: random chance is the only real equalizer, it is the only fairness possible, by stopping the hammer the joker was preventing it to prove his point. From that moment on Dent starts actually using random chance instead of "making his own luck".
I've heard that theory, but I don't think it's accurate. I think the finger-placement is coincidental. First, hammers have a lot more force than you might expect, so holding it with a finger, especially in that position, probably isn't happening (even the manuals for such weapons strenuously insist that de-cocking should be avoided at all costs, and if it must be done, you do it by putting your whole hand in between the hammer and the chamber, not by relying on one finger). Second, it simply doesn't follow from what we know of Joker's character. He doesn't offer false choices, because he doesn't want the people who choose to do horrific things to have the excuse of pretending they were forced to do it. Tricking people doesn't serve his purpose, which is to offer indisputable proof of his assertion that human civilization is, as he says, "a bad joke".
@@michaelccozens It would make sense if the whole point of that specific thing was to change Dent's mindset, not to prove a point about civilization (there was no audience there except Dent after all). I think the Joker wanted to prove a point about human nature with the boats, not necessarily with Dent. I think Dent was an ace up his sleeve. In case the joker didn't manage to fulfil his goal, he would make sure all the criminals went free, undoing Batman and Dent's legacy, and destroying a symbol of justice for the city in the process. I don't know much about guns so afaik you could be right about the hammer. If you are it could be a mistake or it could be that the whole thing wasn't intentional, idk. I was just explaining a popular theory.
@@oslafoirausuebutuoy5457 Your explanation is appreciated, as is taking my counterpoint in the spirit intended. It's troubling how often these kinds of rational disagreements can turn into rancorous personal feuds. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt on that count! You raise interesting points, but I'm not sure the one about there being no audience in that Dent/Joker moment holds. Had Dent killed Joker in that moment, the info would almost certainly have been quickly discovered and disseminated, thus destroying Dent's reputation (as would have happened anyway if Bats didn't take the fall for the people Harvey did eventually murder). And that was Joker's goal, because Harvey was the last gasp for legitimate hope for the city and the system that supported it. Whether or not the mobsters Harvey arrested went free was incidental; once the rot of despair was established, it would spread fatally, either quickly or slowly. Joker didn't really care if he was there to see the final inevitable stages, as long as he knew they were now unavoidable. Dent was less a goal for the Joker than a weapon; he was the method by which Joker would destroy Gotham, and the myth (to him) of any social nature beyond the Hobbesian that condemns human existence to being "nasty, brutish, and short". Nolan really made quite a masterpiece here. It holds-up on a lot of levels.
There's some delicious small details in this film that just make it so much better upon rewatches, and some of them I didn't even notice until recently, despite the fact I've probably seen this film over 50 times by now. The Joker with his hand on the revolver hammer is a good one, so is the scene where Batman beats him up in the police interrogation room, because the piece of glass the Joker uses to hold that cop hostage to get his phone call is a piece of glass Joker picked up after Batman slammed his head into the glass 2 way mirror. The last one is fucking brutal. Remember in that scene where the Joker burns half of the huge pile of money? If you remember, that scene begins by showing Mr. Lau (the Chinese guy who Batman captures and brings back to Gotham) tied to a chair that is sitting on top of the money pile. It never shows him again, but there sure as hell wasn't anyone who moved him before the Joker lit the stack on fire, so the Joker literally burned a man alive, and almost nobody noticed until they had it pointed out to them (myself included)
Actually, Suzy, when this movie was finished, Heath Ledger died because he had trouble sleeping, and he took too many sleeping pills, and accidentally mixed his prescription. He was halfway filming another movie when he died. He had mental health issues as well, he was only 28 years old when he died
People need to stop saying the role caused heath yo take his own life. There is no truth to that. He was dealing with a lot in his personal life and was self medicating with prescription drugs. the role didn’t make him “crazy” or suicidal. People need to really stop believing that nonsense. It’s a huge disservice to the actor as well as the director and cast mates that knew him personally. It really pisses me off when people insinuate that nonsense.
For real. Most people don't even bother to do a basic search about what happened and just keep perpetuating the myth that the role is what killed Heath when it was an accidental overdose. It's disrespectful to his memory.
0:31:40 - "You look nervous...is it the scars?" Actually, yes. That scene was the first time Maggie Gyllenhaal had seen Heath Ledger in the Joker makeup and his being in her face freaked her out.
This might seem like a weird compliment. But watching these reactions always feels like you're just sitting in the same house watching films with you guys. I love how down to earth everything is!
Heath Ledger didnt commit suicide, but this roll definitely took toll on him which eventually lead him taking overdose of sleeping pills by accident. Apparently he had some issues with sleeping already before Dark Knight and he took this role so seriously and worked so hard on it that it made his mind race so badly that he couldnt sleep/needed to take sleeping pills and ultimately he overdosed by accident, not by purpose. That happened after the they had finished shooting but many months before the movie came out. He was given posthumous Oscar for his role as best supporting actor in 2009 Academy Awards
Health didn't die cause of this movie. He was already halfway through making another movie when he died. And he wasn't the joker all the time on and off set. He was always dressed like the joker on set and they would hear him trying his lines all different ways but thats it. He would talk to his co-stars normally and ask them for their advice on certain things, like his voice or certain lines. He died cause of a accidental od. He took a mix of pills that weren't suppose to be taken together.
@stagger9660 he wasn't, he just needed something to sleep. And i think he was taking something to get him going. Like caffeine pills or whatever. Nothing serious
What’s interesting about the interrogation scene heath actually asked bale to hit him for reals. So he is actually getting hit by bale. He wanted it to look real
What makes the people on the boats think Joker told the truth about which detonator blows up which boat? Telling them the opposite as he did with the locations of Harvey & Rachel would be a very Joker thing to do.
26:01 & 26:45 The first time i really took The Joker seriously in this movie, the jumpscare & the videocam threat scene is scary, disturbing almost like a horror movie, No wonder Heath Ledger won the Oscar so deservingly. I dont care what anybody says, these scenes are legit terrifying.
i had the same reaction in theatres - i thought the movie was going to end after they caught the joker. but then it was just the beginning of the craziness. such an epic storyteller, chris nolan. him and hans zimmer made this such an amazing experience.
It's a small thing, but at the party on the rooftop, Bruce tips out his champagne instead of drinking it, and later the Joker does too. It subtly indicates the link between them of focus and self-sacrifice to achieve what they want
Heath didn't take his own life, and wasn't "destroyed" by the character. That is a myth. Of screen he was his funny jolly self. He was having trouble sleeping while filming the Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, and accidentally combined some wrong pills, and that's what killed him.
I love how the whole construction site sequence feels like a stage from one of the Arkham games. With the whole Batman seeing which enemies he's gonna fight and everything.
Usually when you scrub through a video, especially with reactions, you’ll see a couple significant peaks around a couple specific moments. With TDK, there are peaks all throughout the runtime because everyone wants to rewatch almost every moment Nolan gave us. This movie just rules.
Another great reaction! TDK is such a great piece of cinema. Fun fact, the Gordon/Harvey/Batman partnership is straight out of a Batman comic called The Long Halloween which also was a massive influence on the new “The Batman” movie. Speaking of 007, I suggest watching the Daniel Craig movies, it’s only 5 and it’s one contained story. Casino Royale Quantum of Solace Skyfall Spectre No Time to Die
One of the best films ever made. It just took my breath away seeing it for the first time when I was 15. And still does now, just flawless all round. Still miss Heath Ledger, he was amazing
I'm sure others will say it but when Joker is talking to Rachel at the party there was a large amount of improv by Ledger. Rachel looking so uncomfortable wasn't acting, him grabbing her wasn't in the script. So they say, anyways.
43:15 "what laws has batman broken?" Vigilantism, breaking and entering, stalking, assault and battery, trespassing, destruction of property, assaulting an officer of the law and a good few others
Let's not forget manslaughter in the case of Ra's al Ghoul, Invasion of Privacy from the cell phone sonar, he's committed kidnapping both domestic and internationally after smuggling himself into a foreign country, and I somehow doubt he has legal permits for literally any weapon he carries that functions as a projectile or explosive. Batman is a hard criminal full stop. He's a criminal that uses his criminal activity as a means of reducing the crime rate but he's a criminal nonetheless. That's the point of the movie; interrogating if solving crime by flagrantly violating the law is conducive to long-term peace. The film itself doesn't quite land on a definitive conclusion to the question because it's a hard one to answer but this is why I snicker and face palm everytime I hear somebody asking "How is Batman a criminal?"
Heaths death was an accidental death, which is just terrible as well, he could have been the greatest. But he did get tormented by the character for sure
Interviews with other cast members said that Heath Ledger was not depressed while doing this movie contrary to what the media reported. He had more fun doing it than most of the others.
If you see an actor wearing eyeliner on screen, it’s a good tell that they might have been trained in the theatre or had classical training. They eyeliner is used to make stage actors eyes visible to the audience for expressions. If they didn’t wear it, then from the audience perspective, you wouldn’t be able to tell if they’re eyes are even open.
I’m so happy you realised Joker told Batman the opposite addresses. Clearly Joker told Batman that….for a joke……🤣 so good! Also adding to that which I’ve only just picked up on, the blade the joker used on the cops neck asking for a phone call was the knife in Jokers shoe he used to kick Batman with!
15:27 Joker may not directly care about money, but he makes sure he always pays the money he owes to the IRS on time. He's "crazy enough to take on The Batman. But the IRS, NO THANK YOU!!!" - as shown in "Batman: The Animated Series"
The Joker didn’t leave Dent’s coin flip to chance. Notice how he kept his finger on the cocked hammer. If Dent were to fire, nothing would have happened.
I’ve been watching so many of these Dark Knight reaction videos, and wondering how so many people haven’t seen it, and know so little about it. Then I remember that it came out about 16 years ago, and I’m just old as fuck.
When joker was in the hospital room with dent holding the gun to his head, if you look closely, you can see that joker is holding the hammer on the revolver with his finger, so even if dent had pulled the trigger, the gun wouldnt fire. he never actually had the choice, only the illusion of choice.
26:32 They would most definitely show that on our (American) news, repeatedly for about a week. They'd just have a news anchor say "We should warn you. What you're about to see may be disturbing for some viewers". The motto is "If it bleeds it leads".
Heath Ledger did his own make up, because Heath thought it would look more authentic. And with his death, it was an accident. He had bad insomnia and recklessly took too many sleeping pills. As someone with insomnia, I unfortunately understand it.
The joker says he's like a dog chasing cars. He has dogs at the end fight and barks while attacking Batman. He also actually says "why so Sirius?" That's the dog star.
Fun fact, the delay in the explosion in the hospital and Heath's reaction thereafter in the scene was actually real, it was all rigged to explode at the same time, but it didn't and so Heath was suprised when it eventually went off
Very presumptuous of you to think that we didn't >< It's also known as a Chelsea smile down south. In Glasgow there's numerous facial scars given to people to signify different things. They're punishments given to let other people know what you did...allegedly. -Steejo
Mark Morris Return of the Mack reference at 22:56 The last thing I expected to hear on a Dark Knight reaction. Glad the song is popular overseas though
Fun fact, when the joker blew up the hospital and he was taping the trigger against his hand cos he was expecting more, that was complete improv, BTW this is the time I've watched one of your videos and I enjoyed your reaction. Merry Christmas guys
It's a great story, but it's been debunked by Nolan himself. The whole scene went as planned; it's just that the insurance people tend to get twitchy when you start detonating building-collapsing charges within yards of a movie star with potentially billions of dollars in future earnings for which their estate may sue you if you blow them up. So they separated the charges; little visual fireworks when Heath's close, big demo charges when Heath's finally out-of-range.
0:24:00 - As Fox stated, SkyHook was devised in the 1960s and is a real thing. The first time it was seen by the public was in the John Wayne movie "The Green Berets" in 1968.
Yeah.. Heath died right before this movie premiered. :( made the movie extra eerie. Excellent movie and performance. Really by everyone. This isn't just a great super hero movie, it's one of the best movies out there. Same honestly with the newer Batman film
Jack Nicholson, also had to see a psychiatrist, because of the joker role. In fact, everyone who has played joker has some kind psychotic break as a result of playing the role.
Joker: "See, I'm not a monster, I just ahead of the curve." Such a powerful and iconic line. Like this movie, way ahead of its time.
Well that whole talk.. I mean it 100% applies to the next movie. And hope they remember it.
"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message." Another fitting and prophetic line for today's media.
Hahaha he ha and I thought my jokes were bad
And what happened during Covid? These so called "civilized" people? They'll eat each other.....
@@DocMicrowave Sadly you got that right.
17:04 He didn't intentionally kill himself. The Joker wasn't even his last role. He was on a bunch of pills already for his insomnia and he accidentally took the wrong mixture of pills(benzos included which can be very dangerous when abused)
didnt the olsen sisters clean his place out of any drugs, even aspirin
32:01 I think the Joker put it best in the Killing Joke. "Sometimes I remember it one way, some times I remember it another. If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice".
I also think he tailors the stories to affect the person he's talking too honestly. Like his "wife" with Rachel, father figure with Gambol. :)
🤔That's why I don't accept Joaquin Phoenix's Joker as a real Joker movie because the real Joker doesn't have a true origin story, he has multiple choices😁
@@WillsonT011 your logic is backwards. The Joker is a man, he therefor has a "backstory" implicitly. The "multiple choice" nature of his backstory is a result of his delusions, which is evident in Joker. It would make sense that the longer he lives within a web of delusion, the more uncertain his memories would become.
doesn't the Killing Joke also show his definitive origin story as a man who had a "really" bad day
@@Negentropy369 The Joker is not a man, he is a comic book character. Therefore he doesn't 'have' to have a backstory nor is it 'implicit' that he does have a true origin, quite the opposite in fact.
Best superhero movie ever. Heath Ledger's Oscar winning performance still makes me cry with joy every time I see it.
Batman begins is the best not the dark knight
@@demoncyborg8700 lol no
@@fkaiba94 the best batman movie is dark knight because of just one fucking person... the Joker?
@@demoncyborg8700 lol I'm not going to argue.
I would say Dark Knight Rises is the Best Batman movie. Dark Knight or ZSJL is the best movie with Batman in it. And there both probably the best superhero movies. The Batman is probably the best Gotham movie besides Batman Returns
Christian Bale has done a couple interviews saying that Heath was himself when he wasn't filming. He didn't go too deep in the role (those were just rumors). Heath did have some trouble sleeping and was taking sleeping pills and had an accidental overdose when mixing medicine, it was an accident
Do you believe that years later watching the performance he gives? Bc i want to, but its hard to believe
@@SoVHitman uh yes or he wouldn’t have commented that? Trouble sleeping you get prescribed pills or get them another way, build a tolerance / mix the wrong ones & overdose not that tough to understand, a classic tale of tolerance or mis dosing & overdosing, nothing new
@@scotthill1600 i mean i get that but hes a/was a method actor so once in character, he cant get out till hes done with the role. Im sure he was normal when not recording but idk, it seems like he got so into it, maybe after shooting was done, he couldnt get out. I believe it was accidental obviously too, but its hard to believe it wasnt also the role adding on to the pills and sleeping stuff.
@@sparkie4604 well thats a given but it just seems they would say nicer things now and after his passing to maybe help ease ppl dealing with it. Or something like that
@@scotthill1600 I heard he told Bale to actually hit him or something in the questioning room scene
In my head canon I truly believe that each boat really had the detonator to their own bomb. That would be such a Joker thing to do.
100%. It's the same trick he pulled in the police department, flipping Rachel and Harvey's locations.
I’m not the Joker, but if I was, I feel like I would feel more successful getting one of the boats to give up their morals and let Gotham see them actually murder the other boat and have to live with it the rest of their lives.
gmdwill. Well, if you look at it this way, they'd still be murdering people on their own boats if indeed they had the detonator to their own boat.
And Joker wanted to make an example of that to the entire city. That someone Did push the button.
Point is, it was a win win for the Joker either way. Joker lost when no-one pushed the button. So he was prepared to do it himself anyway. Till of course, Batman intervened.
Both triggered the citizen’s boat
"SEE MADNESS AS YOU KNOW IS LIKE GRAVITY ALL IT TAKES IS A LITTLE PUSH"
Just like the Joker we're all one bad day from becoming exactly like him. An agent of chaos who just wants to watch the world burn.
Cilian Murphy should’ve had more time as Scarecrow. He was phenomenal.
he actually auditioned to play Batman originally but Nolan thought Bale was a better choice, but he loved Cillian's audition and wanted him in his film. Very cool.
The actor for the mayor isn’t wearing eyeliner. He’s just Cuban and has crazy eyelashes haha. He’s also in LOST which I don’t know if you guys would ever be interested in doing for the channel but that would be amazing!
He’s gorgeous. He was brilliant in Bates motel lol
Would love to see them watch lost
@@sarahe1491 i havent seen any reactors watch lost. Ill have to browse around. It's a show that gets sillier as time goes on but the character development and acting is second to none in my opinion. Very emotional and relatable show.
Fun fact: in LOST, another guy actually calls him "the guy with the eyeliner".
@@Grimlock1979 Classic Sawyer🤣
One of the greatest films of all time!
I'd say top 100 for sure.
@brandocalrissian3294 top 100 but it's personally my top 5
The scars on the Joker are often referred to as a "Glasgow Smile," originated by gangs in Scotland in the 1920s and 1930s. A blade is taken, and a cut is made from the corner of the mouth, upwards towards the ear, typically on both sides. The question now becomes, was it self-inflicted, or did someone really give him those scars.
@@Laochri There's probably lots of things people don't know about their own history.
Harvey Dent is LEGITIMATELY a good guy that was trying to actually better Gotham. He's that way in EVERY adaption of this pantheon, he's a genuine good soul that experiences a mental break tragedy that creates Two-Face. His main personality occasionally breaks through to lament what he's become right before Two-Face takes control again.
Though in Long Halloween it was implied he was also one of the killers at one point and that was before the accident.
I loved aaron eckharts performance but its shadowed by heath’s. With good reason, his joker is the best. But i thought the harvy/2face character was really well done and original. Especially the transition and that book frame hint in the beginning
No such thing as good and evil. Humans are risen apes not fallen angels. We do what we do, good and evil for animalistic reasons. If you don't do wrong, you have exposed yourself to the temptation that exists in the world and are sheltered.
💯
Every time I see ppl ask “how did he sneak a gun into a courtroom?” When the mob guy points the gun at Harvey in the beginning, I think we all forget it’s GOTHAM😂 not necessarily hard to sneak a gun in the most corrupt city lol especially if your mob-connected
Harvey even says it's carbon fiber, so presumably it wouldn't be caught at a metal detector.
I went to court when I was 18 & had my parents with me, they work in local government & know almost all of the cops. When we got to security parents & the security had a short talk bc they know each other & one of the police officers even apologized that we had to be there for court. wasn’t put through the metal detectors or searched in any kind of way. Could have easily had a gun in my bean boots or just under my jacket in the waistband, could have had an ankle holster. (I obviously would never do that but could have) given there’s 3/4 cops in the lobby, another 2 at the doors into the courtroom & 3 more in the court room with the local sheriff all in uniform & armed & the sherrifs department & city police headquarters a block away. All just to say that yeah corrupt cops or knowing the right ppl & it would be extremely easy to get a gun into a court room. I was proven innocent in court & my record is clean btw
@@slmott399 Kinda true, but a lot was once made of "carbon fibre" guns, just as a lot is made now of 3D-printed "ghost guns". I think Hugh Laurie had the best response to the idea in his book "The Gun Seller" (IIRC): "Even if the gun doesn't get picked-up, it's hard to pass-off the 17 rounds in the magazine as lipstick refills".
Same kinda deal with "ghost guns"; wake me when they manage to 3D print a barrel, a chamber, the propellant-containing section of a round, or the rest of the components of a gun that must withstand extremely-high pressures and temperatures and therefore have to be metal, meaning they have to be cast in large-scale easily-monitorable facilities (zip guns are a bit of a different story (eg. the device used to assassinate Shinzo Abe some years back), but they're only good for one shot, and even they need metal barrels and chambers). In fact, might be accurate to say that 3D "ghost guns" are as much of a threat as zip guns ever were, ie. "not much".
@@michaelccozens Printed guns are pretty much expected to be single shot, so their durability is not so much an issue. But getting the bullet through the detector would still be hard.
@@scotthill1600 nice story bro
They showed the video on the news because it gave Joker's terms for not killing more people. In that situation, they would show it. Because if they didn't get his message out then the news station could be held liable in the event of more killings if they didn't do everything in their power to prevent it..
26:48
They looked. Such an impressive moment because until then the Joker had been, well, a joker, playing around but still dangerous. Here he is truly angry, and conveyed perfectly by Ledger.
1:04:21 There were bullets, but if you notice, he was holding the hammer in place with his finger, so even if Dent pulled the trigger, the gun wouldn't shoot: 1:04:11
There is a theory btw that Dent knew the Joker was holding the hammer and that was the whole point, he was supposed to notice. The joker was doing the same thing to Dent that Dent did the whole film to other people prior to that: offering a fake opportunity with the coin. The toss of the coin was useless because Dent never had a real chance of killing the joker, just like Dent never gave a real chance to other people before that with the trick coin. Basically the joker was proving the point he made earlier to Dent: random chance is the only real equalizer, it is the only fairness possible, by stopping the hammer the joker was preventing it to prove his point. From that moment on Dent starts actually using random chance instead of "making his own luck".
I've heard that theory, but I don't think it's accurate. I think the finger-placement is coincidental. First, hammers have a lot more force than you might expect, so holding it with a finger, especially in that position, probably isn't happening (even the manuals for such weapons strenuously insist that de-cocking should be avoided at all costs, and if it must be done, you do it by putting your whole hand in between the hammer and the chamber, not by relying on one finger). Second, it simply doesn't follow from what we know of Joker's character. He doesn't offer false choices, because he doesn't want the people who choose to do horrific things to have the excuse of pretending they were forced to do it. Tricking people doesn't serve his purpose, which is to offer indisputable proof of his assertion that human civilization is, as he says, "a bad joke".
@@michaelccozens It would make sense if the whole point of that specific thing was to change Dent's mindset, not to prove a point about civilization (there was no audience there except Dent after all). I think the Joker wanted to prove a point about human nature with the boats, not necessarily with Dent. I think Dent was an ace up his sleeve. In case the joker didn't manage to fulfil his goal, he would make sure all the criminals went free, undoing Batman and Dent's legacy, and destroying a symbol of justice for the city in the process.
I don't know much about guns so afaik you could be right about the hammer. If you are it could be a mistake or it could be that the whole thing wasn't intentional, idk. I was just explaining a popular theory.
@@oslafoirausuebutuoy5457 Your explanation is appreciated, as is taking my counterpoint in the spirit intended. It's troubling how often these kinds of rational disagreements can turn into rancorous personal feuds. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt on that count!
You raise interesting points, but I'm not sure the one about there being no audience in that Dent/Joker moment holds. Had Dent killed Joker in that moment, the info would almost certainly have been quickly discovered and disseminated, thus destroying Dent's reputation (as would have happened anyway if Bats didn't take the fall for the people Harvey did eventually murder). And that was Joker's goal, because Harvey was the last gasp for legitimate hope for the city and the system that supported it. Whether or not the mobsters Harvey arrested went free was incidental; once the rot of despair was established, it would spread fatally, either quickly or slowly. Joker didn't really care if he was there to see the final inevitable stages, as long as he knew they were now unavoidable.
Dent was less a goal for the Joker than a weapon; he was the method by which Joker would destroy Gotham, and the myth (to him) of any social nature beyond the Hobbesian that condemns human existence to being "nasty, brutish, and short".
Nolan really made quite a masterpiece here. It holds-up on a lot of levels.
There's some delicious small details in this film that just make it so much better upon rewatches, and some of them I didn't even notice until recently, despite the fact I've probably seen this film over 50 times by now. The Joker with his hand on the revolver hammer is a good one, so is the scene where Batman beats him up in the police interrogation room, because the piece of glass the Joker uses to hold that cop hostage to get his phone call is a piece of glass Joker picked up after Batman slammed his head into the glass 2 way mirror. The last one is fucking brutal. Remember in that scene where the Joker burns half of the huge pile of money? If you remember, that scene begins by showing Mr. Lau (the Chinese guy who Batman captures and brings back to Gotham) tied to a chair that is sitting on top of the money pile. It never shows him again, but there sure as hell wasn't anyone who moved him before the Joker lit the stack on fire, so the Joker literally burned a man alive, and almost nobody noticed until they had it pointed out to them (myself included)
Actually, Suzy, when this movie was finished, Heath Ledger died because he had trouble sleeping, and he took too many sleeping pills, and accidentally mixed his prescription. He was halfway filming another movie when he died. He had mental health issues as well, he was only 28 years old when he died
People need to stop saying the role caused heath yo take his own life. There is no truth to that. He was dealing with a lot in his personal life and was self medicating with prescription drugs. the role didn’t make him “crazy” or suicidal. People need to really stop believing that nonsense. It’s a huge disservice to the actor as well as the director and cast mates that knew him personally. It really pisses me off when people insinuate that nonsense.
For real. Most people don't even bother to do a basic search about what happened and just keep perpetuating the myth that the role is what killed Heath when it was an accidental overdose. It's disrespectful to his memory.
You’re right about Christian Bale being a great actor. Have you ever seen Empire of the sun? He was 13 when he did this movie. You should check it out
And "The Machinist". You won't forget that one.
Never saw Either.. I want to now. My first movie with Christian Bale was Equilibrium
0:31:40 - "You look nervous...is it the scars?" Actually, yes. That scene was the first time Maggie Gyllenhaal had seen Heath Ledger in the Joker makeup and his being in her face freaked her out.
This might seem like a weird compliment. But watching these reactions always feels like you're just sitting in the same house watching films with you guys. I love how down to earth everything is!
Heath Ledger didnt commit suicide, but this roll definitely took toll on him which eventually lead him taking overdose of sleeping pills by accident. Apparently he had some issues with sleeping already before Dark Knight and he took this role so seriously and worked so hard on it that it made his mind race so badly that he couldnt sleep/needed to take sleeping pills and ultimately he overdosed by accident, not by purpose. That happened after the they had finished shooting but many months before the movie came out. He was given posthumous Oscar for his role as best supporting actor in 2009 Academy Awards
Health didn't die cause of this movie. He was already halfway through making another movie when he died. And he wasn't the joker all the time on and off set. He was always dressed like the joker on set and they would hear him trying his lines all different ways but thats it. He would talk to his co-stars normally and ask them for their advice on certain things, like his voice or certain lines. He died cause of a accidental od. He took a mix of pills that weren't suppose to be taken together.
He took pills for insomnia. I don't even think he was a drug addict
@stagger9660 he wasn't, he just needed something to sleep. And i think he was taking something to get him going. Like caffeine pills or whatever. Nothing serious
@@justinpeck6015 it really was tragic.
That scene when Joker blew the hospital up, the bombs malfunctioning wasn’t scripted. Heath just stayed in character and they used the take.
The old man at 31:11 is real life US Senator Patrick Leahy. He has appeared in 3 Batman movies.
What’s interesting about the interrogation scene heath actually asked bale to hit him for reals. So he is actually getting hit by bale. He wanted it to look real
What makes the people on the boats think Joker told the truth about which detonator blows up which boat? Telling them the opposite as he did with the locations of Harvey & Rachel would be a very Joker thing to do.
26:01 & 26:45
The first time i really took The Joker seriously in this movie, the jumpscare & the videocam threat scene is scary, disturbing almost like a horror movie, No wonder Heath Ledger won the Oscar so deservingly.
I dont care what anybody says, these scenes are legit terrifying.
1:21:21 the ending of each movie in this triology is so good in my opinion!
i had the same reaction in theatres - i thought the movie was going to end after they caught the joker. but then it was just the beginning of the craziness. such an epic storyteller, chris nolan. him and hans zimmer made this such an amazing experience.
It's a small thing, but at the party on the rooftop, Bruce tips out his champagne instead of drinking it, and later the Joker does too. It subtly indicates the link between them of focus and self-sacrifice to achieve what they want
Heath didn't take his own life, and wasn't "destroyed" by the character. That is a myth. Of screen he was his funny jolly self. He was having trouble sleeping while filming the Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, and accidentally combined some wrong pills, and that's what killed him.
Bank teller is a famous actor. An incredible character actor, and nobody thought he woild die in the opening secrion.
I love how the whole construction site sequence feels like a stage from one of the Arkham games. With the whole Batman seeing which enemies he's gonna fight and everything.
Usually when you scrub through a video, especially with reactions, you’ll see a couple significant peaks around a couple specific moments. With TDK, there are peaks all throughout the runtime because everyone wants to rewatch almost every moment Nolan gave us. This movie just rules.
Another great reaction! TDK is such a great piece of cinema. Fun fact, the Gordon/Harvey/Batman partnership is straight out of a Batman comic called The Long Halloween which also was a massive influence on the new “The Batman” movie.
Speaking of 007, I suggest watching the Daniel Craig movies, it’s only 5 and it’s one contained story.
Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace
Skyfall
Spectre
No Time to Die
'It must really hurt his throat going that deep'
THATS WHAT SHE SAID!
Best, Batman and joker ever. Merry Christmas one and all
One of the best films ever made. It just took my breath away seeing it for the first time when I was 15. And still does now, just flawless all round. Still miss Heath Ledger, he was amazing
A little too much talking during some of the big lines in the movie.
That damm sequence, that dammm opening sequence 🔥
People with nothing to lose can always be anywhere from 1 to 10 steps ahead!
I wish you wouldnt spoil a few things and just let her watch it.
I'm sure others will say it but when Joker is talking to Rachel at the party there was a large amount of improv by Ledger. Rachel looking so uncomfortable wasn't acting, him grabbing her wasn't in the script.
So they say, anyways.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year..
Suzy and Steejo..
Merry Christmas to the both of you and your family :)
"You see madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little push"
Joker does steal money, but simply for the show, one time when he heard Batman wasn’t coming, he put the money back.
43:15 "what laws has batman broken?" Vigilantism, breaking and entering, stalking, assault and battery, trespassing, destruction of property, assaulting an officer of the law and a good few others
Yeah, it's crazy that sometimes people just say "BUT HE IS THE GOOD GUY!".......
Let's not forget manslaughter in the case of Ra's al Ghoul, Invasion of Privacy from the cell phone sonar, he's committed kidnapping both domestic and internationally after smuggling himself into a foreign country, and I somehow doubt he has legal permits for literally any weapon he carries that functions as a projectile or explosive.
Batman is a hard criminal full stop. He's a criminal that uses his criminal activity as a means of reducing the crime rate but he's a criminal nonetheless.
That's the point of the movie; interrogating if solving crime by flagrantly violating the law is conducive to long-term peace.
The film itself doesn't quite land on a definitive conclusion to the question because it's a hard one to answer but this is why I snicker and face palm everytime I hear somebody asking "How is Batman a criminal?"
You ask what Batman did to be arrested. He only blows up a bunch of cars including police cars. Broke every traffic law ever.
Well he killed the garbage truck driver working for joker, and kill dogs
The dark knight is more than a movie, it is a phenomenon that revolutionized the the superhero genre.
1:07:54 - No he is not wearing eyeliner, his eyes look like that naturally. What a gift right? I wish i had that genetic code 😂
Heath Ledger the best joker no one will ever beat him.
The blond reporter at the funeral, the nerdy guy in _The Breakfast Club_ (if you've seen it...)
1:11:42 --- When you're dealing with The Joker.... Each boat had THEIR OWN detonator... Why? Because that would be funny...
no matter how many batman movies they gonna make this will be the peak that every other movie trying so hard to reach
Heaths death was an accidental death, which is just terrible as well, he could have been the greatest. But he did get tormented by the character for sure
According to the Joker, if he is going to have a back story it might as well be multiple choice.🃏
Hey guys, loved your reaction. Merry Christmas and all the best to you both and your family
Interviews with other cast members said that Heath Ledger was not depressed while doing this movie contrary to what the media reported. He had more fun doing it than most of the others.
14:56 "coz hes bruce fuckin wendy" best line ever
If you see an actor wearing eyeliner on screen, it’s a good tell that they might have been trained in the theatre or had classical training. They eyeliner is used to make stage actors eyes visible to the audience for expressions. If they didn’t wear it, then from the audience perspective, you wouldn’t be able to tell if they’re eyes are even open.
One of Joker’s most popular backstories is that he had a pregnant wife who died, so popular it’s considered canon.
The Joker was smart by dropping Rachel outside of the window, knowing the Batman would save her rather than capture him... Allowing his escape.
I’m so happy you realised Joker told Batman the opposite addresses.
Clearly Joker told Batman that….for a joke……🤣 so good!
Also adding to that which I’ve only just picked up on, the blade the joker used on the cops neck asking for a phone call was the knife in Jokers shoe he used to kick Batman with!
15:27 Joker may not directly care about money, but he makes sure he always pays the money he owes to the IRS on time. He's "crazy enough to take on The Batman. But the IRS, NO THANK YOU!!!" - as shown in "Batman: The Animated Series"
Batman, when he got home from falling a good distance: "Alfred, I need to put squishy things in the back of my suit."
The Joker didn’t leave Dent’s coin flip to chance. Notice how he kept his finger on the cocked hammer. If Dent were to fire, nothing would have happened.
I am writing this to help out Suzy and steejo and this video and this channel with the algorithm ♥️✌️😘😀
That mount and blade merch is pretty cool
The hospital explosion...the part where he kept clicking the detonator, and the hospital not blowing up, was all Ad-lib!!😮😮😮
Immediately liked the video bc the clean crisp sound of beer being opened lol keep em up guys!
That gun was backfire gun if Harvey tried to kill Joker he would've died instead of Joker
sir, you know nothing of american history. abraham lincoln was a _vampire_ hunter
Great Series! Merry Christmas guys
@Dm.Suzy_Steejo..on. Holy crap are you serious!! I live in the United States.
I’ve been watching so many of these Dark Knight reaction videos, and wondering how so many people haven’t seen it, and know so little about it.
Then I remember that it came out about 16 years ago, and I’m just old as fuck.
When joker was in the hospital room with dent holding the gun to his head, if you look closely, you can see that joker is holding the hammer on the revolver with his finger, so even if dent had pulled the trigger, the gun wouldnt fire. he never actually had the choice, only the illusion of choice.
i haven't seen Suzy in a while
where the hell did the accent come from?
1:13:15 --- Like in Terminator 2... "He'll live."
26:32 They would most definitely show that on our (American) news, repeatedly for about a week. They'd just have a news anchor say "We should warn you. What you're about to see may be disturbing for some viewers".
The motto is "If it bleeds it leads".
Heath Ledger did his own make up, because Heath thought it would look more authentic.
And with his death, it was an accident. He had bad insomnia and recklessly took too many sleeping pills. As someone with insomnia, I unfortunately understand it.
14:05
Steejo not being one of El*n Musk's army of incel simps makes me like him even more
Was going to pop open a sleeping video and nap then I saw this.
Guess sleep can wait🎉
Joker doesn't know who batman is
Immediately had to comment: Love the Bannerlord shirt!
When you referred to the first 007 movie as Casino Royale, and not Dr No, that broke my heart.
possibly meant the 1967 version? I've not got to that part of the video yet
The interaction after 36:15 is totally adorable.
That was a REAL 18 wheeler that flipped!😮
The joker says he's like a dog chasing cars. He has dogs at the end fight and barks while attacking Batman. He also actually says "why so Sirius?" That's the dog star.
Fun fact, the delay in the explosion in the hospital and Heath's reaction thereafter in the scene was actually real, it was all rigged to explode at the same time, but it didn't and so Heath was suprised when it eventually went off
Pretty sure that's been debunked.
They're the TH-cam couple this city deserves, but not the one it needs right now 🦇
Those facial scars are sometimes called a Glasgow Smile. Like Chibs in Sons Of Anarchy. Little surprised you don't know that.
Very presumptuous of you to think that we didn't ><
It's also known as a Chelsea smile down south. In Glasgow there's numerous facial scars given to people to signify different things. They're punishments given to let other people know what you did...allegedly. -Steejo
@@SuzySteejo If you mentioned it in your reaction, I must have missed it and I apologize.
@@SuzySteejoif I may ask how do y'all know Abraham Lincoln? He's an American president I didn't think he's known outside here.
Mark Morris Return of the Mack reference at 22:56 The last thing I expected to hear on a Dark Knight reaction. Glad the song is popular overseas though
Fun fact, when the joker blew up the hospital and he was taping the trigger against his hand cos he was expecting more, that was complete improv, BTW this is the time I've watched one of your videos and I enjoyed your reaction. Merry Christmas guys
It's a great story, but it's been debunked by Nolan himself. The whole scene went as planned; it's just that the insurance people tend to get twitchy when you start detonating building-collapsing charges within yards of a movie star with potentially billions of dollars in future earnings for which their estate may sue you if you blow them up. So they separated the charges; little visual fireworks when Heath's close, big demo charges when Heath's finally out-of-range.
47:25 Technically, due to the RPG exploding on Batmobile right in front of him, the Joker must have been killed or at least heavily injured...
0:24:00 - As Fox stated, SkyHook was devised in the 1960s and is a real thing. The first time it was seen by the public was in the John Wayne movie "The Green Berets" in 1968.
Yeah.. Heath died right before this movie premiered. :( made the movie extra eerie. Excellent movie and performance. Really by everyone. This isn't just a great super hero movie, it's one of the best movies out there. Same honestly with the newer Batman film
Jack Nicholson, also had to see a psychiatrist, because of the joker role. In fact, everyone who has played joker has some kind psychotic break as a result of playing the role.
What about cesar romero
Best joker 🃏 ever and Mark Hamilton
Mark Hamill.
Heath legder was fantastic as Joker and also its not Mark Hamilton its M Arkham ill...lol.
Two face & Alfred and even Gordon’s actors don’t get enough