Nikon P1000 Digital Camera | First Look and Review
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- We roam around Cheltenham Spa in the Cotswolds while reviewing the comprehensive set of features available on Nikon's latest and most powerful bridge camera the P1000.
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Hi all, we'd like to apologise for not being able to demonstrate the RAW files. We did mention we would do this in the video. At the time of shooting Adobe Camera Raw did not support the .NRW files produced by the camera and we were unable to process them in Lightroom. This appears to still be the case. We will aim to be aware of this for future releases. Thank you for your support. Please visit our website for all of your photographic needs: www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/
I heard the FBI was ordering 1000 of these.
Hi, for that issue you can use Adobe DNG Converter (software) to create and "standard" RAW file (.dng) and edited later on adobe camera raw. Saludos
Great video, what is the name of that song?
Nikon provides its own excellent RAW handler. A bit of a learning curve to an Adobe user, but once mastered is as good as the Adobe stuff.
What curvature of the earth? Want to prove curvature of the earth?
Just got this Camera for my 30th birthday. Can't wait to explore with it
im getting it for my 30th birthday i had to back order it so my birthday just passed lol
Nice review - thanks, mate! Nikon is close to producing the perfect all-in-one camera. They just need three things:
1) Make it full-frame
2) Make it constant aperture f/2.8 or better yet f/1.4.
3) Provide a van to pickup the cash required for that and for us to carry the camera around in.
Until then, the P1000 is fine piece of kit.
If they make it full frame the focal length would be reduced to around 550mm instead of 3000mm. This camera’s insane zoom capabilities come from a brilliant exploitation of the crop factors from a smaller sensor.
I was about to comment on just how unrealistic your demands are, but then I realized you're joking because of the third one.
What if they'll provide a semi truck for the lens?
This remains the best review of the P1000 that I've seen. As others have said I would have liked to see what's possible with RAW files, but otherwise a fantastic review. Thanks!
This is the best review of the P1000 on TH-cam. Good job, thanks for sharing.
Best review I’ve seen on this camera. Mine is arriving tomorrow... can’t wait to see how HUGE it is!
Ha ha I took mine out the box yesterday its huge but I love it 😂
Mine is arriving today ... can't wait!
Also keep in mind i was had p900 , and I overused it for 4 hour non-stop zoom in and out , then the rotor on the camera Overheat .
Tried send it to the dealer , but they dont sell parts for it , and even you cannibal the full Lens from other camera, somehow the camera reject it
So do mind it dont zoom in and out without giving it rest
So yeah my camera still broken , no way to fix it , 2 years usage
i am happy for u..
does it weigh 2kg with lens like my d3x and there's no way to get 3000mm in a small package this seems the smallest travel cam shame i don't have the cash for it n can't risk selling my camera to find out its not what i need. think ill rent one.
Seriously, no doubt, by far the most informative, comprehensive (within time limits), objective review I've seen. Thank you very much! I am dying to get this camera after having the p900. It seems that there are only 3 downfalls which are no touchscreen, weight and battery life. (understanding that it's not a 35mm). I imagine with battery tech improving soon that there will be a replacement battery that rocks. Thanks you very much. Please review the RAW imaging/editing that you mentioned. Thanks again!
Good info, time to upgrade from my 1930 Kodak Brownie box camera.
Cracking review: made even better by the fact that I know Cheltenham well. Thanks a lot. My one observation is that it's only a full frame equivalent of a 24 - 3000mm lens. I have been considering purchasing a P1000 for the days when I don't want to take out my A7III/A7II. Though bulky, it appears extremely versatile.
A great review. I know it will not measure up to my DSLR and a Nikkor 200-500 lens but the reduced weight and the greater reach makes up for it. Trying it tomorrow and hopefully buying it tomorrow. A good addition to my kit.
The p950 is lighter. I'll go for that being I'm disabled. This seems to be an awesome camera! Thank you for the video.
hi Sir .. tQ for sharing your review.
all my years of amateur photography, any camera that i hold, its focal length must wide at least 28mm(35mm cam equivalent) max maybe 120mm is suffice for me.
Then one day i stumbled upon TH-cam video on lumix TZ70 and i went wild, got myself a preloved TZ80.
And now, comes the Nikon P1000!! i didn't even knee P900 existed.
Min 8:00 sealed the deal for me, selling some redundant cameras at home and sure am getting one P1000 Sir!!
p/s i like too your kind comment on the matter of 'atmospheric' conditions between the P1000 and the subject @3000mm focal length away..
You mentioned the RAW editing you were planning to evaluate. That's one thing I'm curious about and have not seen addressed in other reviews. The small sensor would seem to make RAw a feature of limited benefit and use. Thanks.
raw just means an unprocessed sensor data save possibly at 16bit depth? and in adobe red green blue so yeah still better than jpeg if editing
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Hmm . . . yes and no. I just downloaded some P1000 RAW files from one of the sites that reviewed the P1000 (you can download both the JPG and the RAW file but you need Nikon's software to read the RAW file because PS and LR can't yet read the new format).
As far as I can tell, there's not much (if any) advantage to the RAW file versus the JPG which is one of the problems with small sensors.
That said, the sample size is small and that's why I'd be interested in hearing from someone who shoots RAW all the time. From what little I've seen, I'm not sure I'd shoot RAW with this camera. Then again, RAW comes into play more during difficult shooting situations.
I'll probably rent the P1000 before deciding if I should buy it. That's because of the size change and extra price. I own a P900 and I'd preferred they'd given us an actual upgrade instead of a new camera with more unknowns. Also, few people tell you the settings when they shoot and those can vary significantly depending on personal preferences.
Thank you for doing this review, i will have mine in a few hours from now, I am booked to go on a Whale watching trip this weekend and so tempted to take this camera with me, a little bit worried about the sea water element so if you think i should not take it then tell me today.I had the P900 and had so much fun with it, this new beast certainly goes to another level. Weather permitting i will be taking shots of some Peregrine falcons around teatime, the P900 performed very well with this so i am excited to get even better pictures and footage of my little friends on York Minster. Once again Thanks for a great review.
Hi Andy, this camera has a fluorine coating on the lens to repel moisture and protect the exposed glass element from dust. If I was you I would take the camera without hesitation, what is an adventure camera for if not being taken on adventures? Just be careful in your use of it. The body isn't the most robust I have seen, nor is it weather sealed. A good option to protect the front lens element is to use a protective filter; this could be either a UV, clear or polarizer. This will protect it from moisture, dirt and even slight impacts. It's always a good idea to have a filter handy for challenging environments and you'll be pleasantly surprised what a good polarizer can do when shooting water on a bright day. It will minimize reflections and even help you penetrate the surface to some degree.
Just got my hands on it in the last ten minutes, its definitely coming with me, thanks for your advice.
lester duludis High-praise indeed! We are flattered, thank you very much for your input. Hopefully, we can continue to live up to expectations.
From macro to the moon without changing lenses, Love it👍
Just got mine, love it so far, also have the P900
Use a slower shutter speed to make up for low iso. The longer amount of time the shutter is open you wont have to deal with monster noise
Best review ive seen so far on the P1000. I have the P900 and have been so happy with the camera.Thinking about upgrading to the P1000, maybe wait a little :)
Wait, what about post production? You said you would work on the shots. Did you? What did you think? Why didn’t we get to see more shots?
Hi Allen, we are conscious of this, unfortunately, our Lightroom subscription lapsed right after this video was made and we never got around to it. If you're interested you can email me at m.ward@cliftoncameras.co.uk and I'll send you a couple files once I've managed to play with them some more. This may be a couple weeks out though given Photokina is next week, we have found ourselves very busy. I apologise for not following through in the video. I think it's fair to say that I'm not expecting big things due to the small sensor size in conjunction with the outrageous equivalent focal lengths. For the hobbyist, however, the added flexibility that RAW provides should be a welcome addition regardless of the degree to which it works as it wasn't present on the P900. In that respect, this is an improvment on the previous iteration. Thank you for your input!
LR doesn't recognize NRW raw format. Nikon's NX-D will read the file and you can than pass it to your favorite PP platform in tiff. Nikon does have an available codec for download which will allow Win10 to recognize the nrw format. Even so a program like ON1 will display a colorcast image and have terrible distortion. (they are aware of problem however P1000 is not a "Tier 1" camera so it might be awhile for its support.) I suspet that might be true for adobe support as well.
best P1000 review I have seen so far, I gave you a "LIKE". but there are few Issues I wanted to mention
1. When you zoom in video mode, you should mention vocally how much zoom you are doing so we know what you are doing
2. when you video yourself at 13:30 you had big shadow on yourself which made your face dark, you should check position of sun when you shoot or use back light compensation +1
3. Please bear in mind that there are two kind of digital zoom. The dynamic fine zoom in still mode does not effect the quality of the picture but only reduces size of picture lit. 2x (6,000mm) dynamic fine zoom would reduce 16MP picture into 4MP picture because it crops out 75% of picture to get a virtual zoom. The regular digital zoom would leave 16MP picture the same but quality would go down since pixels are getting bigger.
4. since it's a travelers camera, it bothers me that it does not have GPS feature. I wonder if the Nikon GP-N100 GPS receiver would work on the Nikon P1000 hot shoe.
I really enjoyed watching your review on this camera as I was considering in buying one thank you.
As long as you accept its limitations & stop unrealistic comparison, its amazing
I get mine very soon, can’t wait..thanks for the video as it shows me so much about the camera and it’s functions. So very excited to start using it now!
I badly want this beast...ahhhhhhh
Me too
I would not use it at low light since it's sensor size is the same as in most smartphones.
Good review. I have a lot of plans for this camera and only want it for astronomical use, can't wait to connect it to my Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer.
thank you for a great review
lol. i kept thinking suddenly there's too much noise outside my house when it's coming from your video. :p
Nice... one day i will buy it...
Great review. I got this on pre-order, Amazon says I should have it in week from today. If I don't like the quality of the images I certainly will be returning it haha. Great thing about being a Prime customer :D I subscribed to your channel btw.
Thank you for subscribing! Let us know if you decide to keep the camera or not!
You're welcome. I am deciding to keep it. I posted 1 video on my channel so far of the zoom. It is insane. I took pictures at a car show also and was going through the settings trying to learn them. Seems to be a decent camera :)
Hi, any feedback about the quality of the pictures? You mentioned you'd put a few raw pictures in post and see how they come up. Id love a superzoom camera but would look else where if the photos a crap.
This is the perfect camera to magically pull ships back up hill once they've gone down
no one can see a ship once its gone over the curvature.. foiioooool
@@mrMacMilli2000
What curvature?
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He has got to be joking
Another Flat Brain...
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What a big dummy you are. Check out your ancestors too 🐵🐒☚😂
Ordered ;-) great weapon 4photographers
Mom: Go play outside
Me: *Seeing an old man looking with a P1000 at me*
Also me: MOooooOmmm
Once upon a time during the days of true analogue photography iso wasn't a concern. You would balance the aperture with the shutter speed to get a required exposure, depending on the lighting conditions. The trouble with that though is it would take some effort and time also you'd need a tripod to carry which would be even more effort. Now because exposure levels are all calculated automatically iso becomes the deciding factor for the user. And wether or not you want to carry a tripod around which goes against the modern trend of that's too much effort. You can't have your cake and eat it. Unless your gonna carry it around with you
What tripod is he using?
Great video, thanks. Just seeing now three yrs later as I am considering this or possibly the 950 (don't know if the extra 1000mm is needed/worth it. I wanted to mention this I the first time in watching quite a few videos that I heard the IS does NOT work in 4K video mode. Just don't understand that, could be a deal-breaker. That's exactly WHEN I would want stabilization, especially in 4K. I wonder if the 950 is stabilized in 4K?
The new globe destroyer
I want videos to the MOON 🌝
Please, could you make a vídeo showing how to crop a video, in the câmera.
Beat regards, from Brazil.
Try to see the curve of the earth. It's 8 inches per mile squared. So if object is 12 miles away it will be 144 times 8 inches. 96 (of it's own) feet below eye level horizontal. You Should be able to easily see that with that camera.
Just get somewhere you can see an object that is 12 miles away and is the same elevation as you and you should notice it is 96 feet below your eye level horizon which would prove the earth is not flat.
8 inches per mile squared is the formula for a parabola not a sphere. It is a close approximation over short distances but is not the most accurate way to calculate the hidden height behind the horizon.
A good place to view the effects of curvature is when looking at Toronto from across Lake Ontario. I have seen it myself and only the tops of the buildings were visible. Like this:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Toronto_seen_across_lake_Ontario_from_Olcott_2.JPG
Not sure why you say "eye level horizon", since the horizon is actually bellow eye level (but only slightly) when near the surface.
Its totally pointless trying to talk sense to these people......if you gave them irrefutable proof that the earth is a globe they still wouldn't believe you.
Thank you great video.I have a question is your tripod is big a naught to stabilize the camera at 3000 mm
IF it was Capable of Back Button focusing using the Af button, I'd get one , Hopefully they included that feature in the next version of this camera ..
After shooting for many many yrs Using AF button, I could never ever go back to that Half press Shutter function.. just doesnt feel right lmao.. ;-)
Hi, which tripod did you use or recomend to hold all these weight?
Hi GioDCM, this camera doesn't actually weigh all that much. We would happily recommend the Manfrotto Befree Advanced: www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Manfrotto-Befree-Advanced-Aluminum-Travel-Tripod-with-Ball-Head-Kit-Twist
can you please tell me settings for dulistant zooming on P1000 as my images are blurry and objexts are not clear on distinct zooming
It's definitely am interesting camera , and an amazing focal length. But sadly another camera that no camera manufactur will put a proper sensor in, because as soon as you give a camera like this image quality it negates the need for all the other costly equipment they all sell . I've been using a cannon sx50 for several years which has the same limitations, but is great for wildlife and getting that long reach as long as you except that image quality us below par. Great review, thankyou
I really liked your review. Thank you so much for sharing!
That place is beautiful!
Were is this?
Shooting far away with is amazing. Low light from a 1 2/3 is going to be poor. If they used a 1 inch sensor it would have reduced the focal reach. But low light would be better. Imagine if it started at F2.0 to F4.0? 3000mm is crazy in one camera in bright light. I so much want to try this in nature shots and the trail. This camera is going to be heavy too, but still lighter than a mirrorless or DSLR if you could even match the focal length. If I had this I would be investing in a shoulder neck strap. So for birds, some airplane spotting, and shooting the Moon of course. Otherwise this is a 1000 dollars for me could be spent better elsewhere. Save a bit more and get the Sony RX-10 IV, still get 600mm, excellent 4K UHD video. Superior focus and image quality. 1 inch sensor vs. 1 2/3 the P1000 has some merits but it is so extreme so that it attracts and detracts. For video wide angle is not going to be so good, but zoom is where it is at. Good effort on a camera with limited appeal. It is too situational for my $1000.00.
If it was a one inch sensor you'd be looking at least double the price, its all about the zoom, nothing comes close. It's all about trade offs, that's why most have more than 1 camera, but this should be fun to use. Even the rx10 iv has its limitations. More depends on what you shoot than the camera.
If it was 1 inch sensor imagine how bigger glass would need for this range of zoom.
@@ΚωνσταντινοςΓ-ω6φ And the weight. Probably over 2 kilos instead of 1,4.
I enjoyed watching your review. You are a great guy and also funny!
Will there be a 4th Nikon Coolpix to be released soon? Like a nikon Coolpix 1200? Thanks
Excellent review of this massive camera, one recommendation is to have a wireless mic on you because your voice was cutting in and out throughout the video.
Anyone notice the lens mechanism noise as you zoom in and out, if yes, how do you get rid of it ?
I realize this video is three years old, but was wondering if you could tell what tripod that you used. I’ve read it can be tricky on a tripod due to where the tripod mount is located and the weight from lens when it’s extended to the max! Great review! Thank you!
The 1 thing somebody might use this camera for is observing the night sky for stars & planets as an alternative to more expensive telescopes.
The bottom-line is that people are using their phones & tablets as portable alternatives to expensive cameras. Once people need to print their photos to see the images, now only professionals would have their photos in print so the consumers at the low-end can get away with having high quality images. Unless a camera more than what people can do on a phone, they're not going to carry one anywhere even for family gatherings.
5:50 I’m eating a pain au chocolat right now
Delicious!
Nikon usually have their own software to convert RAW into anything you want. I normally do this. Interesting that you are Clifton Cameras and going to Cleve Hill. Cleve is "Clift".
The great thing about this camera is that it helps exposing NASAs lies & helps prove there is no curvature on this beautiful flat realm we all live on. Great review btw. Thank you.
Question, have they removed the EV limitation ?, on the old P900 you could set 30 seconds at ISO-100, if the ISO was changed to ISO-200 for example then the max shutter speed you could set would be 15 seconds and so on, this crippled it for any decent night sky shots. can the P1000 be set to ISO-3200, and 30 sec (or even bulb) when in manual mode ?
No, unfortunately not. Similar restrictions. Bulb only seems available in ISO 100
+Another Faze He's talking about the fact that as you increase the ISO, the camera firmware artificially limits the maximum exposure time in manual mode. This severely reduces its ability to capture deep-sky objects and star-trail time-lapses capture far fewer stars.
@Another Faze. Great, see if you can get some meteor pics or maybe a pic of the Andromeda Galaxy DUH !
I do know what I'm doing when it comes to night sky photography, Hell, I can even spell the word "night" :)
Thanks for that Movie Vertigo
Also, it seems bulb (which has to be used in ISO 100) is limited to 1 minute :(
Can u tell me what tripod u are using for p1000 in this video?
Excellent review, thank you!
Suppose Nikon has 3000mm focal length .. so how I will know binocular have 3000 mm range. Do u have any idea about binocular maximum range? If so plz suggest a good binocular to buy. I love zooming
Hello, can you please tell me which tripod do you use and the holder at 12:48 ?
How did you manage to pick my home town, and why the bloody hell did you not avail yourself of it's many beautiful features?!
Hi John, we are a local business located close to Cheltenham. Feel free to provide us with a list of potential shooting locations and perhaps we can use them in future videos!
may I ask what do you take your youtube vids with?
I really enjoyed this video but i am still confused either i should go for it or not , guys any recommendation ?
Maybe you could tell us how you connect the SnapBridge with the P1000 it's a bloody mystery
Yeah bro great vid/footage 👍👍👍ya 2,the 4 k vid mode up close didn't really get into the face clear enough🤔but it passes,I would use for vid mostly 🎳
I have the P900 and I don't understand why the kept the small sensor. Also the GPS and NFC features were eliminated.
Great review!
3:26 Thought that noise was the lens zooming in and out
Great review 👍🏼
They make a neck strap for thise for a reason, as i keep seeing you bounce the camera from hand to hand , waiting for u to drop it
I have 150-600 sigma full frame lens, do you think this camera is better zooming than the 600 one ?
That's nice Eddie Bauer
showing 4k vdo sample while uploading only 1080 quality is a great injustice to the cam
Excellent review thanks.
Has it the same Timlaps setting as the P-900, I live in Australia and was thinking of getting one (or the P-900) for night/star Photography as we have a lot dark sky's.
QUESTION ; Can we see REAL Time image if it's connected on a TV or a monitor ? or u have to record a video or take pictures first , i would like to see real time image of the moon while connected on a monitor , hope u can answers..thank you !
The P1000 footage looks actually much better than that of the camera you shot most of the video with.
Does the P1000 have live HDMI output? If so, can you zoom into the live view?
what's the name of the mini Tripod attached to the camera at 11:00?
Wow cool stuff I have the 950 battery is so small yeah
Good review, thanks! :)
Cheltenham My home town
ok if you can find one ,im been looking for a year now, all you get is awaiting stock
I mean you can buy new or overpriced 2nd hand, but its true
Im looking since over a year for a 2nd hand P950 or Sony RX10 Mk3/Mk4, none found yet. Im pretty happy with a modern DSLM and a ton of lenses but i would really enjoy a compact superzoom bridge camera as well, but not for that high price, im willing to pay maximum 300$ in good condition since especially the Nikons are very useless in image quality and low light, the Sony RX10 is somewhat capable, low light as well image quality.
Does anyone know what tripod is he using?. Thanks in advance.
What tripod head is that?
would have been easy to add touch screen + why remove GPS tagging
Great review. I've subscribed to your channel.
Thank you Ashley! We'll try and keep a high standard. Feel free to leave us some constructive feedback if we're not living up to expectations!
Wonderful review, I really wanted to buy this camera although now I'm in the middle. I came across G7 Lumix. Which is almost half cost of Nikon Coolpix p1000. What would you recommend for me, I'm open to different makes too. My use would be taking pictures and recording movies at night(horror type movie, so very dark). Thank you so much for your time.
Hi Clifton. I've just purchased one but know little about its use at the moment. I would like to know how to set it on auto focus so that when I aim at a subject it auto focuses on it. Also, does this camera do Macro zoom to a very close up on small insects?
Some guys post videos but never care to answer questions.
I have the P900 on which the macro works the same. I do a lot of macro pictures with it on insects and small wild flowers. It works perfect for that.
Your question was a while back so I assume you already figured that out by yourself. Right?
Thanks for the video...Could you please tell me when will be the launch? I want it as soon as possibleeeee!
Hi Miguel. The first batch has already arrived but you can pre-order on our website which you can do here - www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Nikon-Coolpix-P1000-Digital-Camera you just need to put down a £5 deposit
Hi I have same Nikon p1000 what tripods you’re using?
When you lowered the iso you didn't compensate for exposure. What's the point of the test?
You even said "it's getting darker and darker of course"...
That's where I stopped watching.
halfniak because if you lift the shadows in raw to match exposure you can quickly ascertain noise levels and how many stops you can recover and get usable results ...obviously it’s not real world but if you can see that you can get 2 stops without impacting quality you can keep that in mind when using exposure compensation when exposing to preserve highlights
Good work. Not to be rude, but. Don't understand why the music has to be turned up that much. It's as if the music is the most important part of the video. Sorry but I had to turn down the volume every time you stopped talking and increased the volume of the music and it's what you said that was the interesting part. But again. Good work. I'm not really sure if I want the camera. The camera you used for making this video has a better video quality. Would like to know if anybody could tell if there's an affordable and recommendable dedicated 4K video camera that's got a heavy zoom on the market. By the way. I agree with Dena Michele.
Im pretty sure it has a 1 2/3 inch sensor, not a 1/2" sensor?
Awesome review
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If you don't want to be obvious taking street shots, use the screen and hold it waist high at closer range. People don't think you're taking pics when you're looking down. What attachment are you using? Is that a tripod?
The camera does not have a “half inch” sensor. It has a 1/2.3 sensor (pronounced one-over-two-point-three) and would be more correctly called a two thirds sensor although that is not normally used as a name. It is 6.16mm x 4.62mm in size. The 1/2.3 name comes from the vacuum tube days and means it is a 2.3 size designed to go in a 1 inch tube. The “1” only ever refers to the size of the tube, not the sensor size. Even a so-called 1 inch sensor is not actually 1 inch in size, but it was the largest size that would fit inside a 1 inch tube with enough room for its bezel area, and is 13.2mm x 8.8mm which is way smaller than an inch. Marketing people like to use the 1 inch name, however, because it makes the sensor sound like it is a lot bigger than it really is.
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wrote: "(pronounced one-over-two-point-three) and would be more correctly called a two thirds sensor"
What do you call the 2/3-inch sensor that measures 8.8mm x 6.6mm? Would you call that a two-over-three sensor? Because to me it would be way easier to call it two-thirds.
Edit: (Not that anyone really has a f to give about all this pedantic blather.) Me go now. Head hurt from write.....
rapskallion The decimal refers to a second fraction, but with the vagaries of over 50 years of vacuum tube usage means that there are often illogical naming conventions that are not consistent. Also, because the sensors for a particular size were made by different manufacturers the actual mm dimensions of individual sensors with the same “size” would vary. Sadly, when the switch to CCD sensors happened there was an opportunity to rationalize the sizing conventions, but it appears that camera manufacturers preferred to continue the old confusion because they wanted to convince users that they had bigger sensors than they actually had. I didn’t mean that 1/2.3 should be called two thirds, just that half inch is not correct, and it would be more correct to say 2 thirds if you were going to (incorrectly) use a fraction. Yes I know that it is mostly engineers who think about these things, but I do wish we could convince manufacturers to just use mm dimensions and get rid of this confusing vacuum tube nonsense.