Who Commands the House Elves at Hogwarts? 9 Deleted Scenes | Harry Potter

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  • @stellastarnes627
    @stellastarnes627 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Winky's journey throughout the series starting in "The Goblet of Fire" is perhaps one of the most tragic aspects of the series in its emotional complexity that goes beyond the understanding not only of most of the other House Elves excepting Dobby who aids and comforts Winky, but also the limited understanding of Hermione. For indeed, while Hermione is right in her accurate reading of Barty Crouch Sr. as a cruel and cold master towards Winky and is right to try and show her genuine and heartfelt kindness, Hermione does not really know how to help Winky not simply because Winky is too personally offended by a far too obvious display of kindness to want or accept it, but also because, in her naïve attempts to placate Winky, Hermione demonstrates that she only knows half of Winky's overall suffering and also that she is far too eager to get her to move on far too quickly when Winky first needs to be able to process the abuse she's suffered in her own time. Hermione refuses to give her that. From Winky's perspective, Hermione only really adds further fuel to Winky's shock and denial at her dismissal by Barty Sr. by shattering what respect Winky still holds for him and the family he represents as its only existing patriarch and the role she played in the running of both the estate and the only home she ever had as a whole. Hermione's inability to get through to Winky and help her get over the shock and denial that Crouch Sr. mistreated her cruelly is very much tied to the fact that Winky knows why he did it when concerning the guardianship of his son far better than Hermione does in her innocence and seizes upon his sacking her to condemn herself for failing to keep Barty Jr. in check since she blames herself for getting in trouble with her master.
    Winky's role in taking care of and looking out for Barty Jr. represents something important in her nature not simply as a servant, but as a female Elf who possesses a deep and impactful, bottomless capacity to love and to show and demonstrate that love towards a deeply misguided and unloved, neglected and emotionally damaged young boy who is lacking all fatherly love and guidance and an essential female role model in his life upon his mother's passing that goes beyond both servitude and duty in an interracial bond between House Elf and human in which Winky grew to look upon and love him as something of a surrogate son in her readiness to be a mother to him. If you think about it, Winky does not show any hatred or bitterness towards Barty Crouch Sr. in life upon dismissal, and, likewise does not remember him with hate in her heart upon hearing about his death considering the way he sacks and mistreats her at the start of the novel. Instead, when she hears about Barty Sr's death at the end, rather than feeling relief and vindication upon learning the news, it only devastates and saddens her, as it would naturally devastate one who genuinely respected him and served him in all good faith and trust until he found fault with her in a way that broke the trust she'd placed in him. Thus she is stuck in a state of sadness at the manner of his passing and is unable to move on from it to grasp the full reality of his cold nature since the sudden news of his death startles her too much to begin to heal from his abuse. So poor, poor Winky is left to mourn the ever present, crushing weight of the loss of the last of the Crouch family line in Barty Crouch Sr., a man of great stature and ministerial reputation who she admired and respected who revealed a shockingly ugly side to him that he hadn't previously presented to her and that she'd never seen before that she has to try and work through. But the second loss that Winky feels just as acutely, if not more so perhaps than the loss of a high ranking master who abused her to the point of her inability and unwillingness to admit that she's been abused is the loss of Barty Crouch Jr. who, for all of his crimes and misdeeds, was a young man all alone, abandoned by a father, bereft of a mother, who needed and deserved some love in his life. Winky demonstrates that while she was indeed a House Elf and a servant, she was a servant who willingly and wholeheartedly took on the role of parent and mother that the human Barty Jr. lacked in his father and the loss of his mother where she knew he deserved at least one role model if he could not trust that he had one in his father. Winky very clearly was more than happy to play the part of a surrogate mother to a boy who went on to become the son that she herself had never had in lavishing upon him all of the unconditional love that he so desperately needed and lacked in both parental aspects of his life with the heart and soul of a deeply nurturing and caring, maternal, protective and loving female House Elf who transcended her race with her feminine strength and will in actively choosing to take on the role of his human mother and thus fill the hole that Mrs. Crouch left behind.
    Thus, it would seem that J.K. Rowling really did her research well when it comes to extreme levels of trauma and its lingering effects when someone suffers at the hands of one they admire and yet is emotionally unable and unwilling to acknowledge as an abuser since Winky strikes me as a sufferer of PTSD throughout the entirety of "The Goblet of Fire" to which Hermione unintentionally adds further harm by both innocently and ignorantly revictimizing her by forcibly convincing her to open up and acknowledge that the man she continues to respect in Barty Crouch Sr. even after he's abused her emotionally as an abuser and that she's been abused far, far too early, far too soon and without asking leave before Winky herself is even able and ready to accept the reality she's living and suffering through. Add to that the tragic end to the Crouch family line in Barty Sr. and Barty Jr. and it only appears to get worse with the death of her abuser that she is still unable to see and accept as such, coupled with the loss of the son she adopted as her own and it would seem that the lingering trauma of the abuse becomes tied up with their fatal ends, the memories of which she will carry with her for the rest of her life and will never truly be free from.
    To a larger extent, Winky inserting herself into the family she served by also choosing to play an active part within the family itself as an essential and much needed member to the family in filling the role of Mrs. Crouch in her choice to be and perform an active motherly presence in Barty Jr.'s life highlights the fierce female urge to nurture and protect at the very core of Winky's being. Of the two men's tragic fates, it would appear that it is Barty Jr.'s self-vegetative state and overall loss that only deepens and saddens her more and more than the death of her master and abuser throughout "The Order of the Phoenix" as a permanent loss and a personal bereavement as she mourns his loss as her own as a mother would mourn a child regardless of blood ties or biological parenthood. Winky did everything in her power, with all of the unconditional love and care, to live up to her self-appointed role as a dutiful servant who despite her lowborn rank and low status within the Crouch family household chose to continue her mistress's legacy as a mother to act as a second mother in her stead. She reprimands Barty Jr. for his crimes and misdeeds in "The Goblet of Fire" like a mother. She has to endure the feeling that to some extent she somehow failed his human mother in being unable to guard and guide him onto a good path away from his neglectful father as a second mother if she'd only had the chance, and yet for all that Winky also gets to hold onto something precious: the beautiful memories of the home she once had, the respectable family she once served, the overall livelihood she once had, the undying commitment to a job she once had and performed well and, above all, the child she once had in an emotionally stunted, lost and lonely and easily manipulated boy whose sudden loss she grieves with all sheer heartbreak both for his human mother's sake and her own. In some ways, Winky represents one of the two extremes that personal maids in old aristocratic families sometimes went through upon dismissal in real life ; either they got the freedom from servitude that they knew they deserved and definitely wanted as Dobby does or, in other cases when they played integral places within the families that they served and loved to serve in all sheer loyalty and devotion towards those families, they lost everything. For Winky it was the latter. In being freed as she was in such despicable fashion by a highly respectable master of ancient wizarding aristocracy who showed his true colours in snobbery and dismissiveness she lost everything to later begin to grieve on that she really had once had everything and that she would never get it back; and that the son she cared for as if her were her own son would likewise never come back. Hermione was right the whole time in trying to preach to the other House Elves in the kitchens to give Winky their time of day in all true kindness and understanding for losing far too much far too recently to feel free to start over in a new job so soon; she just didn't know how right she was. Winky needed their compassion rather than complaints on not doing her bit. She'd done her bit many times over for a family she loved and the only child she ever loved beforehand. She didn't just need Dobby. She needed all of them.

  • @Danielle-pn4hq
    @Danielle-pn4hq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Every time I watch the scene where Dobby dies I cry R I P forever true friendship ❤❤😭🙏

  • @thegodroxas
    @thegodroxas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Dobby took the gili weed from Snape's store.

    • @antr7493
      @antr7493 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      in Goblet? I have to read the books again

  • @antr7493
    @antr7493 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One thing in the movies i disliked was the lack of elves. Especially them in the Battle of Hogwarts. Great Video.

  • @Annabeia1
    @Annabeia1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would disagree with Neville being the choice to replace dobby in that scene ‘simplifying’ it. To me it added such a deep level of ruthless cruelty from Barry Crouch Jr, because of all the people he could have targeted to to pretend to care about while he impersonated Moody he *chose* Neville after what he did to his parents and used him. I personally didn’t mind this change because while it does take away a good Dobby moment I felt like it made up for it in emotional weight.

  • @heatherjarvis5498
    @heatherjarvis5498 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    noone who only seen the movies knows who Winky or The elves in the Kitchens of Hogwarts are

  • @mikkihesson3509
    @mikkihesson3509 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    THAT IS NOT WHAT DUMBLEDOR TOLD DOBBY HE COULD CALL HIM.

  • @panther122
    @panther122 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He got the room of requirement wrong al Albus dumpledore mentioned to Harry n directly in goblet in finding a room full of chamber pots one night. Even those he didn't go into details Albus was the first to mention it not Dobby.

    • @mikkihesson3509
      @mikkihesson3509 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he got what dumbledor said dobby could call him wrong too.

  • @colletteseders2874
    @colletteseders2874 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are mistaken about a few things. Harry was not released from his muggle family when Dumbledore came to get him at 4 Privet Dr. He told Petunia that Harry must return there at the end of the 6th year of school, because the protection of his mother’s blood would only break when he reached his age of majority - 17 for wizards, and 18 for muggles. Petunia tries to correct Dumbledore when he says Harry must be able to return there, as she said no Harry is younger than Dudley.
    I also wonder about the effect that all Hermione’s little ‘gifts’ might have had on the elves, since they are in charge of all the housekeeping tasks at Hogwarts. One would assume that includes laundry, so they must be able to handle clothing without being freed, as long as a person does not directly pass an article of clothing to an elf. Therefore, all the hats made by Hermione would not have had the desired effect at all. I did find the way that Dobby collected all those items and wore them at the same time to be very funny.

  • @ruthm.6071
    @ruthm.6071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think it was very canny of JKR to show that even an amazing place like Hogwarts and the magical world still has a bit of a seamy underbelly. Showing that the privileged get devoted servants for life. Servants that happily work with no rights or compensation.
    And I think it was equally incisive of JKR to show Hermione having fierce and sincere compassion for these (sometimes abused) creatures. But at the same time showing that Hermione decided how to "improve" their lots in life without actually inviting. their input. A mistake commonly made all the time by earnest "Do-Gooders". In the Muggle world.😅

  • @sailorbychoice1
    @sailorbychoice1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have always thought House Elves were misunderstood.
    I think House Elves may be drawn to serve at a Magical House or Estate they draw power from and are attuned to (homes built on magical lay-lines perhaps).
    Being magical creatures themselves Witches and Wizards would be attracted to those magical properties, and as the Elves serve the House, they also serve the witches or wizards that come to possess said house.
    They serve the house, the family happens to live at the house; therefore they must be served as well.
    They draw their magical power from the house they are attuned to and serve, thus if/when they are fired from their position they begin to lose their magical abilities until/unless they find another house/estate to serve.
    Such a grand magical edifice as Hogwarts would naturally attract many House Elves.

  • @patriciajrs46
    @patriciajrs46 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dumbledore runs the Houseelves. They are Hogwart's elves. The headmaster is in charge of that.
    If I write an American version of a magical school, should I include elves? Should I copy the idea of thestrals?
    Just asking.

  • @ruthm.6071
    @ruthm.6071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much for this well produced feature about the House Elves importance to the HP saga.
    It was terribly disappointing that their presence in the films was so minimal. I do hope that the new HP films in the longer format will bring them back in into focus and show their immense impact to the flow of the stories.
    PS. I have always wondered just how the Elves procreate. Do they have spouses and children at some point in their lives?
    And where are the children? Maybe living in a compound somewhere happily learning the domestic work from young age? What is your theory ?

  • @elizabethoneill8612
    @elizabethoneill8612 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah Hermione just cares about the house elves suffering not the animals and insects who have to be turned into things or be sacrificed to become other things, but who the hell is going to care about animals.

    • @evehatesadam
      @evehatesadam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You ok?

    • @patriciajrs46
      @patriciajrs46 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@evehatesadamIt's nice of you to care enough to ask her that. You could have insulted, but you didn't. Thank you.

    • @grahamschmidt444
      @grahamschmidt444 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Newt Scamander cares about the animals.

    • @mikkihesson3509
      @mikkihesson3509 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patriciajrs46 that WAS an insult.

    • @mikkihesson3509
      @mikkihesson3509 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its not the same. once an animal is transfigured it no longer feels pain, it is in essence now the object. there is no sacrifice, only change in physical form. the slavery of house elves is all day every day tho. constant mistreatment on top of the workload in a lot of cases.

  • @choji7027
    @choji7027 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's criminal to be this early on a video