They’re about to do it again in the fight against Saturn. I hope all the devil fruits awaken and Funk Records turns into a disco ball and the drums of liberation goes full funk slam dunk on Saturn.
A yellow monkey, a giant bear, a crazed scientist, a proud sumo wrestler, and a baby big mom all doing the luffy dance 😀 What's next? Zoro, Imu, Akainu, Big Mom, and Sabo are having a tea party!?
he literally clashed evenly with gear 5 luffy and didn't show a hint of fear, his focus wasn't even entirely on luffy either. not saying he could beat a yonko but to say he'd get "clapped" is dumb@@Gopstop222
@@Gopstop222clapped by who? Kaido got whooped by luffy gear 5 whereas kizaru fought it to a stalemate where luffy had to use all of his emergy to even come close to beat him, kizatu would be scary
I like to think we’ll never have a clear understanding of his actions due to him messily trying to find a middle ground between what he wants and his orders. Hence his justice is unclear. Great character.
I’m actually surprised he cared about Kuma. I always felt that he was just meant to be an antagonist. Some antagonists are just there to be antagonists. Several One Piece bad guys are already like that. I think they need to do their work though, because Kizaru up to this point has no characterization. He’s just a guy who acts lazy and is ruthless and he’s a powerful physical antagonist. Nothing before that showed he had a heart. When I mean characterization, I mean how One Piece characters tend to have complex methodologies
I think the simple fact that Kizaru was included in the group Nika dance is evidence enough. I don't think Oda would draw anyone else but a redeemable character in that position.
i doubt kizaru changing sides. He might support luffy from shadows like how kuma supported strawhats during sabaody, but his ultimate allegience will be to the government.
There are plenty of theories about the bird, monkey and dog theory about how in the myth, the bird betrayed his king and the monkey did it later but the dog was too loyal. If we're going by that theory then this is the perfect time to start Kizarus' betrayal but Oda could stretch it out further even have it actually happen right before Raftel
@@JYGtube Akainu means Red Dog. Kizaru means Yellow Monkey. Aokiji means Blue Pheasant. The admirals are based off of a Japanese myth. It is 100% what Oda is planning.
Something tells me that, considering Vegapunk and Kuma both have ties to the Revolutionary army, I think Kizaru might decide to join their ranks if he does flip against Saturn. Considering Kuzan already went to Piracy, it would make sense for another Admiral to balance it out and go to the third faction.
If Kizaru really wanted to kill Vegapunk i doubt he would have missed him riding down the cloud road. He snipes a key in a battlefield during Marine Ford, i doubt he would miss that giant kart Vegapunk and the others were riding in by accident.
I’ve never understood why Kizaru wasn’t everyone’s favorite admiral. I think his unclear justice is very similar to how Kuma’s actions have been portrayed, both before and during the flashback. I’d be more excited to see him have a confrontation with the new, morally gray Kuzan than any other admiral confronting him
IF Kizaru changes sides I think it is going to be to put their original group back together. Vegapunk, Kizaru, Sentomaru, Bonny, Robot Kuma will escaoe to be a seperate group .
U don’t think they will just run away from satrun, feel like he gunna die or be heavenly injury this fight, to send shock to the WG, they definity csn injury him at the lesstc
I never hated kizaru he was a hell of a wake up call for the crew as they were definitely not ready. I always wanted to see the getback but once again Oda knows how to make you want to sympathize with certain characters now I’m rooting for kizaru to flip😂
So the Ohara incident created the turn in Kuzan which let him spare the strawhats, the Egghead incident could create a turn in Borsalino which lets him spare the strawhats. Based on rule of 3, there now needs to be an incident, possibly the final incident, perhaps involving Dragon(and/or Garp), which turns Sakazuki and forces him against the Marines/World Govt and hopefully fight against Aramaki.
@@lewisaino Aramaki is loyal to Tenryubito and admires Sakazuki. Story wise it'll be better if Tenryubito/Gorosei command the Marines to do something unthinkable (a shocking prospect, I know) and Sakazuki gets conflicted as it doesnt align with his Absolute Justice while Aramaki happily slaughters away 🤣🤣
@@Abionx Fujitora definitely fits the ideology. But it would be a more poetic inversion for the OG 3 who stood against Luffy at Marineford to now stand with Luffy at the end 🤩
The mere fact that thanks to Kizaru's intervention at the Koala incident in Fishman Island did Jinbei and the Sun Pirates get to keep their lives and not be executed by the wrath of the Celestials is enough to justify Kizaru as a Marine that plays his role very well in the story. In Marineford not once did Kizaru and Jinbei exchange fists , despite being at opposite sides , probably because of the respect they have for each other due to their actions. Now in Egghead , Jinbei didn't even consider fighting against the Marines upon learning it's only Kizaru and is only helping the crew pack their things and ho , since his captain is Luffy after all.
Kizaru on the side of the Straw Hats would be a huge boon like how the Blackbeard Pirates got a massive boost after getting Kuzan on their side as a fellow Ten Titanic Captain. It'd be funny to imagine the Light Logia be part of the Straw Hat Grand Fleet with his own division of defected Marines following him, and can do whatever he likes as Luffy told Bartolomeo and their allies to follow their dreams but will call on them to assemble together.
It suddenly had a thought: since Blackbeard is the "evil" reflection of the Strawhats... with Kuzan with the Blackbeard Pirates, then it makes sense the Strawhats get an ex-Marine of their own. And yeah, a Light Logia would be super appropriate because of Nika and Blackbeard's DF.
@@lazylonewolf And Kuzan's devil fruit fits Blackbeard's fruit, being ice cold like the vacuum of space, Blackbeard being the darkest part of space, a black hole, while Luffy is the brightest star and Kizaru would be the best way to spread Luffy's light fastest because it would be moving at the speed of light.
@@JoJo-mj8wr Kizaru wouldn't be equal to Luffy for very long but he would be the second strongest person in the crew for a long time, because Zoro, Sanji, and potentially Jinbei would end up becoming relative to him.
The kick Bonney got looked much more like the gentlest kick Kizaru could possibly have given her. With many others he makes a point at how devastating it can be and that speed is allegedly power.. Maybe it was only the unofficial but there was a small speech bubble of a 'tap' in the last version I read. Perhaps Kizaru made a big show out of it but tried to keep the damage to the absolute minimum. We'll. As minimum as a light speed kick through the frontier dome can be I suppose.... But I think Kizaru is trying to help.
I wonder if Kizaru's Coat Cape of Justice will fall off from his shoulders after his defection as Oda stated that if a Marine no longer stay true to Justice they believe in, their Coat Cape will leave them.
It is a bit embarrassing to say this, even as an anonymous user, but I had a dream about Kizaru like a week ago. I noticed in my dream that he does not have the cape on him. It looked a bit off, but I got used to it. He was a really nice guy. We went river sailing. Maybe it was a premonition? What a useless skill that would be.
The themes of this Arc are beautiful, anatomy. What choices do you have in life, the answers could be very little, or a lot depending on what you beleive. There are moments in everyone's lives that define who we are, small moments at that too. Kizaru is heading right for one of these moments.
I think it’s more realistic that either Kizaru or Caribou gave him the food. Kizaru makes sense because he is close to Vegapunk, Sentomaru, and Bonney, while Caribou makes sense because we haven’t seen him in a while like Wano.
I guessed Kizaru gave luffy the food at first, but that doesn't explain what happened to the marines ordered to put luffy in sea stone cuffs. I am on team Caribou on who fed luffy and then drowned the marines ordered to stop luffy from recovering
I think luffy summoned the food himself. Luffy still doesn’t know he has the nika nika fruit, so he doesn’t know how to use the powers, he’s still on the gum gum train lol. What if his desire to have food so he can help his friends causes his DF to manifest the food. The gorusei say the nika fruit is only limited by its imagination. And he turned the clouds into sunglasses before, so I bet he could turn the rocks or something into food…or maybe just made the food appear from nothing just because he wanted it.
@@johnnypitviperwallace5908 that would be a huge plot issue later on since he could just constantly conjure food up. i mean it would mean he would always win fights due to attrition by just running away constantly, conjuring food, eating, and then returns at full strength to go again, would be a constant loop until he beats whoever he fights unless they actually knock him out completely.
Maybe Kizaru hates Vagapunk for turning Kuma into a robot? Kizaru maybe able cares to save those who can't save themselves. Kuma and Vagapunk made their choices he can't save them so he is not even going to try.
He doesn't hate vegapunk, and Kuma chose to turn into one on saturn forcing him to, but its clear he doesn't want to take vegapunks life or harm Bonney and sentamaru
luffy's nika form is on his wanted poster and i imagine kizaru was briefed that luffy has some sort of new power. when he said "there it is" i read it more like that instead of him knowing fully knowing what he's dealing with
Oda has been building Kizaru for this moment as what I feel. Looking back at the time when Kuma saves SHs, he was not sure why he did that and i think he has now made the connection. I think you rightly pointed out that Kizaru knows how much Bonney's safety means for Kuma and the type of person he is, sacrificing his own life to get her cured. But he did defy his orders quite blatantly in front of an Admiral and several marines to save the SHs and this risk may not have made sense to Kizaru. Now, he knows what Luffy is also knows what Kuma had bet on that day. I don't see Kizaru flipping over but he will get Sentomaru and Bonney out of this predicament and ensure that they are safe. I wonder how he will do that though as he needs to seem to be following orders and their escape should appear circumstantial. Overall, i think Oda has been planning for this character development for Kizaru. He is the only one we do not truly know, what his ideals are and what is his motivation. But one thing is for sure, he cares deeply for Sentomaru and to an extent for Bonney. He respects Kuma and Vegapunk and perhaps it was not a great decision on the WG part to give him the charge here.
Kizaru has always been one of my favorite characters and I never thought he would be a good guy, if he helps the strawhats he might jump up to being my all time favorite.
Since Kuzan is now a pirate i feel like Borsalino could become a revolutionary because of the ties of vegapunk and kuma to the revolutionaries. That way we would have the 3 "OG" admirals on the 3 big forces of this universe
Kizaru already made his move last chapter. The food that appeared out of nowhere for Luffy probably was his doing, and it's perfectly possible with his speed
I think Kizaru gave away just enough. He's willing to kill Vegapunk because he has to, and I think maybe what he said to Bonney is how he feels. It could be he's unhappy with Dr. Vegapunk going through with converting and effectively killing Kuma. So if Kizaru can trade Dr. Vegapunk for the rest of his family, so be it. At least I think that was his original plan. If Kizaru was what people previously thought of him, he'd be quickly killing them, but he hasn't in a more serious capacity.
Kizarus mafioso theme fits his brand of justice so well, he essentially maneuvers like a made man, will kill his friends if it is the best option for the family
Kizaru is very familiar with the story of Nika due to Kuma and Bonney. Maybe fighting Luffy in G5 was what Kizaru needed to see to take a gamble on Kumas behalf and back Luffy/Nika.
I think people are underestimating Kizaru's abilities. He's an admiral and very skilled with his fruit. His ability is literally the light light fruit allowing him to create images of whatever he wants. There might be a good possibility that he might've tried to fake Vegapunk's death with an illusion and taken the old man out of the island, then disappeared himself. After all, who could ever catch him?
@@yaseen9044 he might make a promise to a dying Kuma to protect his daughter along with Sentomaru... so if Bonney joins Luffy's crew then he and Sentomaru may tag along as support in the same way kin'emon and momo did. Also Caribou isn't a straw hat, but he's been technically traveling with them for a while so it's a total possibility
@@TheOrovinПовторяется событие на Сабаоди. У него есть приказ, но он не очень хочет его выполнять, поэтому устраивает настоящее шоу, после чего появляются неожиданные события, которые его останавливают(Рейли и Луффи). Я не верю в такие совпадения, особенно если учитывать, что он полностью подавлял Рэйли.
My believe, is that Kizaru already betrayed the World Government. In the middle of the battle, Saturn is wondering who gave Luffy food that just appeared out of nowhere. Maybe certain someone who can move at the speed of light decided to drop off a bit of sustenance while everyone was looking at Bonney?
I don’t think Kizaru will fully join the Straw Hats, however, I can see Kizaru escaping Egghead with Luffy and the Straw Hats. As for who joins the Straw Hats, I think Jewelry Bonney is going to join Luffy and the Straw Hats as their apprentice, just like Buggy and Shanks were for Roger.
Theories if Borsalino Aka Kizaru actually switch sides: 1. He will be the last of the OG admirals to left that position, with Sakazuki stepping up to be Fleet admiral and Kuzan joining Blackbeard pirates. So I'd say Borsalino will be joining the Revolutionary Army to complete the faction cycles (Marines, RA, and pirates). Maybe Oda will reveal that Borsalino had known Dragon when he was still in the marines and has been working with him secretly by giving insider information to Dragon acting as a double agent... That or he will join RA and spill their movement to WG. 2. The replacement for him will probably be named Orange rabbit/rat (Daiusagi/Dainezu, using this kanji "橙" as the orange which is spelled 'Daidai'). Considering the other two of the current admiral was named after the color combination of the OG admiral (primary color) and Chinese zodiac. Orange will be the last color combination from the primary color (red + blue =purple, blue + yellow = green, red + yellow = orange ). With the Ox/Bull and tiger year placed right to each other in the Chinese zodiac, I'd place my Bucket in rat because it is placed before the Bull year. So Dainezu, Ryogokyu, and Fujitora will be the next gen line up of the admiral.
I really love Kizaru, but I hope he doesn't switch sides. He goes along with what he is told to do despite his private misgivings because he is beaten down by the system. Where as Aokiji and Fujitora fight against the government, and Akainu and Green Bull embrace the government, Kuzan just passively goes along with it. He represents how evil is carried out not necessarily by just the bad guys, but by neutral parties who allow it to happen. That's why I love his character.
Thanks forthis great insight on Kizaru as a character :) I hope he switches sides, since he is so cool.. also who gave luffy the food in the last chapter? i personally think it was boa's seraphim :)
Maybe kizaru had a brain implant implanted by Saturn that made him not able to feel emotions. Luffy hit him so hard in the head that the implant broke and now he is slowly starting to feel those emotions again.
and when the panel shows kizaru it could have just been a light clone he left behind thats to trick both the characters and the reader into thinking it possibly wasint him.
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Going by our theory that Swamp Man (whos name escapes me at the moment) is the one that supplied food to Luffy, it could be that Kizaru has already begun his rebellion against Saint Saturn by letting Luffy refuel, and we might even have a scene where Saint Saturn is about to gain the upper hand, only for a stray beam of light to pierce through him, to which Kizaru would simply claim "Well shucks boss I was aiming for Luffy but you ended up getting in my way, terribly sorry there"
Forget powerscaling the Admirals have so much to offer as a character in both being insanely strong and being complex as a character compared to one dimensional characters like Kaido or Bigmom.
I know predicting new Grand Fleet crews is played out and unrealistic by now, but man, the Bonney Pirates with a crew of Kuma, Kizaru, Sentomaru, the Vegapunks, and Stussy would be a monster addition.
Kizaru who's the most robotic of the admirals turning when his loved ones are threatened but Garp not being able to do anything feels so out of character for him.
…. I wonder how much everyone’s bounties would jump up by if The Straw Hats defeat or even slay Saturn and word gets out? Striking down one of The Five Elders for all to see would probably put Luffy and company around equal standing with Gol D. Rodger himself.
Perhaps Kizaru finds the actions of the world government so morally objectionable that he KNOWS the moment he gives himself any agency is the moment he will go against them, and thusly he does everything he can to avoid thinking, making himself "just a tool" disconnecting himself from his actions by not having a decision to make in the first place.
We could also mention that while Luffys causing havoc and Kizaru is resting on the boat the marines are asking for him and he says let me rest. Almost as if he’s conflicted or he’s milking an injury so that way he doesn have to go up against bonney , kuma, sentomaru or vegapunks. Almost like he trusts Luffy to escape
It would be cool seeing Kizaru acting the Smoker role when Zoro pulls him out of the lake, with perhaps Kizaru watching the strawhats escape and Saturn yelling at him to act yet he just stands there and watches as they fade into the horizon
Im actually even more convinced he is a good guy after the latest chapter. When he shot his laser to Vegapunk, he shot it at the exact same location Vegapunk was stabbed by the Gorosei.
Hes gonna pull a subtle Kuzan, almost like when kuzan let robin live "meaning he'll do somthing thatll help the strawhats but without betraying the world government"
could be that kizaru when he was knocked out by Laffy. His head was knocked like in cartoon where characters either lose or regain memory. it could be that punch to his head removed any sort of mind control, brainwash or erased memory.
Never in my wildest dreams i thought of Kizaru joining us, i mean when he was introduced as menace.But if Kizaru really join Luffy, he could have that fight with Benn Beckman, when Straw hats will clash with Shanks crew in future.
I think this arc is going to wrap up as one of the best arcs in one piece or even anime history, I know there is some level or recency bias to that, however this arc has been TIGHT its been perfectly paced, like perfectly. Even the lore chapters somehow feel action packed, yet I have not once felt confused or like I'm misunderstanding the course of events. Even Odas maps of the Island have just made everything so clear week to week, I actually know where everything is taking place. I also think the Kuma backstory is a masterpiece, not just because it's all "oh look at Kuma his life has been so hard, and also bonny's too". There's so much more to the backstory, I'm fairly certain it's all intentional however if it isn't it's a perfect coincidence because it truly brings this story together in a way I never thought possible. So, I don't think you're supposed to see Kuma as the victim. I'll explain. I think we are supposed to recognize that Kuma is a flawed person and the only person that seems to realize that is him(and Saturn I'll get there). Kuma had one great sin that he committed in this backstory which set the course of his later life in motion. Kuma couldn't choose between Dragon and Ginny. By extension he also couldn't choose between his desire to be or to find Nika, and to bring liberation, or his desire to live in peace. Dragon represents liberation, Ginny is his peace. If he had married Ginny, if he had chosen peace, chances are he may never have met Dragon. They may still have met, however I don't see Kuma going off to war after marrying at that age. I think if he chose Ginny that would have been what it took to make him stay in sorbet forever(for better or for worse). However, Ginny would follow Kuma anywhere. When Dragon saved Kuma and Ginny and Kuma chose to devote himself to Dragon, he committed himself to being a warrior. I think it's intentional Irony when Oda calls Kuma a Pacifist. When Kuma chose to go with Dragon, he sealed Ginny's fate. I think he knew that all his life, that's why I can't blame Dragon for Ginny's disappearance. So when Ginny was gone Kuma devoted himself fully to the life of a warrior, however when Ginny returned with Bonny here Kuma saw his chance to make right by Ginny for the mistake he had made. So he devoted himself to taking care of Bonny when he found out about her disease. Here again he did something he would always regret. He turned away from Dragon his Idol, when he really truly needed him. That's why Kuma would return to Dragon so often during his time as a warlord despite the risks, he just couldn't stay away. So Kuma abandoned the revolutionary army an organization he created, for the daughter of the women he regretted never marrying. What makes St. Jay Garcia such an amazing villain here, is he knows Kuma's weakness. He knows how he can use Ginny and Bonny against him, he knows one day Kuma would come to him for help because he's the only one capable of doing so. He also knows Kuma's revolutionary desires. He knows he can use these two warring conditions against Kuma. So when Kuma turned up at Vega Punks door looking for help, Garcia sprung his trap. Here Kuma officially abandoned the revolutionary Army, even so Dragon never blamed him, and I'll get to that more. The next important event is nothing happened. Kuma helped Luffy and his crew because here he saw his chance to do right by Dragon, and to fulfil his desires for liberation, even when he is a warrior of oppression. Kuma saw Luffy's potential and even considered that he might be Nika. However, I don't think Kuma was fully convinced of that at the time. So then we finally come to when Kuma is erased completely. Here Kuma tells us he doesn't want us to consider him the victim of this story. He says something to the effect of "I hope I was able to do right by everyone I've troubled". Which isn't verbatim, however it's not very off from the sentiment. And I think this is very telling. Then when Vegapunk tells him that the people he has touched will miss him. However, Kuma let's his last words the last things he remembers hearing or saying be a self sacrifice, "tell Bonny to have a happy 10th birthday". Even to his very end he was trying to atone for the mistakes he feels he has made. Now that said what makes this amazing. Is everyone who has ever been touched by Kuma has already forgiven him. In some cases the forgiveness is not given, because it was never needed. I think the most telling case is Dragon telling Kuma about Vegapunk. Dragon knew who Vegapunk was, he knew the risk it would be for Kuma and that he might have to sacrifice something to get what he wanted. He also knew this would likely be the last time Dragon and Kuma saw each other as allies. However, Dragon was perfectly comfortable being the thing Kuma gave up. Because Dragon asks nothing more from his people than their commitment, with no regrets. If someone can't commit to the cause anymore without some regret that's okay. Because life should be one lived without regrets. However, Kuma had already made his greatest mistake, and he would be playing out its consequences for the rest of his life. I don't think Kuma is to blame in reality, some things are out of our control. And there's nothing wrong with choosing liberation over peace, they are both equally noble. However, Kuma could never choose just one, and in failing to do so, he doomed himself and those around him. That's also why he isn't Nika. Nika needs to be able to act without regret, he needs to be able to choose without conflict. Kuma couldn't, however, Luffy is the most headstrong and confidently stubborn character in the verse. That's why he's Nika, that also might be something Kuma recognized in Luffy. Which also makes the separation of the straw hats really powerful from Kuma's perspective. Watching Luffy freak out after everyone was gone and blame himself for not being able to save them, Kuma knew exactly what Luffy was going through, he knew the feeling and he also knew it wasn't Luffy's fault. Not really. There are just some powers that need to be stood up to, however usually that means certain death. Kuma knows that, that's why he chose to save them all. As well as choosing to protect the ship. He saw Luffy's pain. He might have even seen a little bit of Dragons pain when Kuma left, and Ginny was captured, and Ivankov was captured. Dragon was pretty much losing all of his closest allies all the way through pre-timeskip. However, he kept going. He kept training a new generation, he had faith his comrades would return to him one day. Dragon is probably one of the most patient and honorable characters in the world. It upsets me a lot that people slander him. He ain't like Yassop abandoning Ussop and his sick wife. Anyway, Kuma seeing Luffy's pain probably triggered something for him . I also think there might be an aspect of Kuma didn't feel like his business was complete so he couldn't be completely erased, at least until Bonny is completely safe.this might be why his body is still moving and acting like he's still alive, and why he can use haki even though he should have no willpower.
I think you brought up a good point that Kizaru would be the voice of reason on military operations to St Saturn. Like you said, Saturn doesn't care about military losses as long as the goal can be completed, but it's up to the Marines and the admirals to get the results in military fashion
True that.. there’s never been any being in any stories about pizza places, where one might enjoy pizza, that is a murderer… wait, robots… pizza… murder… is One Piece in FNAF?
This is why One Piece is so great. Everyone kept making fight predictions about which admiral will fight which Straw Hat for years and almost decades now. Now it's about which admiral will join the Straw Hats to battle the evil admiral's. Oda really is a master story teller. :D
It is easy to say you are a cog in the machine when you have nothing to compel you not to. I find this to be a good way to finally have one of the last original Admiral trio to defect or leave the marines.
What tells us that Kizaru hasn’t already helped the straw hats ? He might have been the one who fed luffy without anyone noticing, he does move faster than light and that would be in perfect Kizaru fashion. Subtle help without compromising his position as a marine admiral.
Ngl, Kizaru, Vegapunk, Sentomaru, Bonney and Kuma doing sun god Nika dance at a pizza party is one of my favourite panels
They’re about to do it again in the fight against Saturn. I hope all the devil fruits awaken and Funk Records turns into a disco ball and the drums of liberation goes full funk slam dunk on Saturn.
@@DonOscarNhatI LOVE this idea. Like, genuinely
@@DonOscarNhatThat unironically would be hilarious
A yellow monkey, a giant bear, a crazed scientist, a proud sumo wrestler, and a baby big mom all doing the luffy dance 😀
What's next? Zoro, Imu, Akainu, Big Mom, and Sabo are having a tea party!?
Yup
"Friendship with World government has ended
Chopper is my weed supplier now"
-Kizaru probably
His name is chopper 😂
@@karimsarif8934its the chop
Imagine Kizaru when he’s actually being completely serious instead of just being lazy when fighting
he would still get clapped by a yonko and this is kizaru being serious its how he fights him being lazy doesnt mean he doesnt fight at full power
he literally clashed evenly with gear 5 luffy and didn't show a hint of fear, his focus wasn't even entirely on luffy either. not saying he could beat a yonko but to say he'd get "clapped" is dumb@@Gopstop222
@@Gopstop222clapped by who? Kaido got whooped by luffy gear 5 whereas kizaru fought it to a stalemate where luffy had to use all of his emergy to even come close to beat him, kizatu would be scary
@@michelecastellotti9172Ok, but to be fair, Kaido was fighting over 8 dudes and holding an Island
@@minedantaken1684 if that 8 dudes did a fourth of what luffy did that is a lot, luffy basically did all the damage
I like to think we’ll never have a clear understanding of his actions due to him messily trying to find a middle ground between what he wants and his orders. Hence his justice is unclear. Great character.
Despite the fact that light is needed to see things clearly, Kizaru's justice is blurry right now
I’m actually surprised he cared about Kuma. I always felt that he was just meant to be an antagonist. Some antagonists are just there to be antagonists. Several One Piece bad guys are already like that. I think they need to do their work though, because Kizaru up to this point has no characterization. He’s just a guy who acts lazy and is ruthless and he’s a powerful physical antagonist. Nothing before that showed he had a heart. When I mean characterization, I mean how One Piece characters tend to have complex methodologies
@@sakonan4883до этого момента у него и не было экранного времени.
@@ReignTracer Extreme lights are easily capable of doing the opposite.
I think the simple fact that Kizaru was included in the group Nika dance is evidence enough. I don't think Oda would draw anyone else but a redeemable character in that position.
fr, people gloss over that way too much, as if Oda literally drew Kizaru like Nika for no reason. I worry about this fandom sometimes
yeah he will be an ally,and an ally doesn't have to be straw hat member
If Kizaru helps luffy, I will be deLIGHTed......ok I'll see myself out
Take your like and get out
Hahaha -_-
Yes, yes you will.
Some one turn the exit LIGHTS on for this man
Please do 😂😂😂
i doubt kizaru changing sides. He might support luffy from shadows like how kuma supported strawhats during sabaody, but his ultimate allegience will be to the government.
To the navy, not the government. He will be more like garp
The one with the brightest technique supporting from the shadows would truly be ironic
In real life, many people who work for authoritarian regimes it takes a personal loss or an attack on friends or family to have the switch flip.
@@michelecastellotti9172 exactly what was on my mind
Could see siniliary with harp where he's like "I am in for the idea, not for the people" and defects
He danced the nika dance. He would turn.
the nika dance did not save him, clearly
There are plenty of theories about the bird, monkey and dog theory about how in the myth, the bird betrayed his king and the monkey did it later but the dog was too loyal. If we're going by that theory then this is the perfect time to start Kizarus' betrayal but Oda could stretch it out further even have it actually happen right before Raftel
THIS
This would make sense considering Akainu is quite clearly the dog
@@JYGtube Akainu means Red Dog. Kizaru means Yellow Monkey. Aokiji means Blue Pheasant. The admirals are based off of a Japanese myth. It is 100% what Oda is planning.
Надеюсь, что Акаину останется тверд касательно своено правасудия. На нем одном и держится весь флот.
One of the things Vegapunk hates about Kizaru, I bet, is the fact that Kizaru can shoot lasers naturally, and Vegapunk cannot
Bet he's jealous that his pacifistas weren't designed like franky which capable of shooting lasers from his nipples
oh, easily. Nipple Lasers solo every universe
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Something tells me that, considering Vegapunk and Kuma both have ties to the Revolutionary army, I think Kizaru might decide to join their ranks if he does flip against Saturn. Considering Kuzan already went to Piracy, it would make sense for another Admiral to balance it out and go to the third faction.
If Kizaru really wanted to kill Vegapunk i doubt he would have missed him riding down the cloud road. He snipes a key in a battlefield during Marine Ford, i doubt he would miss that giant kart Vegapunk and the others were riding in by accident.
Yeah.and the fact that he went"oopsie, almost got you there"is evidence
Good point from both of yall. That oopsie was like...wut? Wym oopsie?
I’ve never understood why Kizaru wasn’t everyone’s favorite admiral. I think his unclear justice is very similar to how Kuma’s actions have been portrayed, both before and during the flashback. I’d be more excited to see him have a confrontation with the new, morally gray Kuzan than any other admiral confronting him
"If even the cyborg with no soul can revolt, so can I" Kizaru probably Chapter 110X
love kizaru, glad he is in the spotlight
Or you could say that he IS the spotLIGHT
@@bruhbruh9895, the exit is 5m away, please see yourself out
@@bruhbruh9895 damn it kevin
well of course, because he is made out of light, YOHOHOHOHO
@@MatioZG💀💀💀
IF Kizaru changes sides I think it is going to be to put their original group back together. Vegapunk, Kizaru, Sentomaru, Bonny, Robot Kuma will escaoe to be a seperate group .
They will join the Grand Fleet!!!
That would be cool. That or join back up with thr RA.
Pacifista Pirates
Bonney Pirates --- Division of Straw Hat Grand Fleet
In my sense kizaru wont be betraying but will do same as akoiji just will help them to escape from satrun or will be absent in further action
id rather not have another repeat
U don’t think they will just run away from satrun, feel like he gunna die or be heavenly injury this fight, to send shock to the WG, they definity csn injury him at the lesstc
I never hated kizaru he was a hell of a wake up call for the crew as they were definitely not ready. I always wanted to see the getback but once again Oda knows how to make you want to sympathize with certain characters now I’m rooting for kizaru to flip😂
Today was top notch for your editors idk if others noticed but they stepped up their game.
So the Ohara incident created the turn in Kuzan which let him spare the strawhats, the Egghead incident could create a turn in Borsalino which lets him spare the strawhats. Based on rule of 3, there now needs to be an incident, possibly the final incident, perhaps involving Dragon(and/or Garp), which turns Sakazuki and forces him against the Marines/World Govt and hopefully fight against Aramaki.
Mayba Aramaki leave with Akainu
@@lewisaino Aramaki is loyal to Tenryubito and admires Sakazuki. Story wise it'll be better if Tenryubito/Gorosei command the Marines to do something unthinkable (a shocking prospect, I know) and Sakazuki gets conflicted as it doesnt align with his Absolute Justice while Aramaki happily slaughters away 🤣🤣
it actually is more plausible for fujitora to fit the rule of 3 then akainu (i mean he kinda did that with the dice at the end of dressrosa)
@@Abionx Fujitora definitely fits the ideology. But it would be a more poetic inversion for the OG 3 who stood against Luffy at Marineford to now stand with Luffy at the end 🤩
The mere fact that thanks to Kizaru's intervention at the Koala incident in Fishman Island did Jinbei and the Sun Pirates get to keep their lives and not be executed by the wrath of the Celestials is enough to justify Kizaru as a Marine that plays his role very well in the story.
In Marineford not once did Kizaru and Jinbei exchange fists , despite being at opposite sides , probably because of the respect they have for each other due to their actions.
Now in Egghead , Jinbei didn't even consider fighting against the Marines upon learning it's only Kizaru and is only helping the crew pack their things and ho , since his captain is Luffy after all.
Kizaru on the side of the Straw Hats would be a huge boon like how the Blackbeard Pirates got a massive boost after getting Kuzan on their side as a fellow Ten Titanic Captain.
It'd be funny to imagine the Light Logia be part of the Straw Hat Grand Fleet with his own division of defected Marines following him, and can do whatever he likes as Luffy told Bartolomeo and their allies to follow their dreams but will call on them to assemble together.
It suddenly had a thought: since Blackbeard is the "evil" reflection of the Strawhats... with Kuzan with the Blackbeard Pirates, then it makes sense the Strawhats get an ex-Marine of their own. And yeah, a Light Logia would be super appropriate because of Nika and Blackbeard's DF.
@@lazylonewolf And Kuzan's devil fruit fits Blackbeard's fruit, being ice cold like the vacuum of space, Blackbeard being the darkest part of space, a black hole, while Luffy is the brightest star and Kizaru would be the best way to spread Luffy's light fastest because it would be moving at the speed of light.
@@Rob_Lucci_True true
Kizaru can't join them since he is at least equal to luffy. It's the main reason why Jinbe joined so late. Luffy has to be the strongest in his crew.
@@JoJo-mj8wr Kizaru wouldn't be equal to Luffy for very long but he would be the second strongest person in the crew for a long time, because Zoro, Sanji, and potentially Jinbei would end up becoming relative to him.
kizaru is my favorite marine, i hope he chooses the "good guys" over the government
The kick Bonney got looked much more like the gentlest kick Kizaru could possibly have given her. With many others he makes a point at how devastating it can be and that speed is allegedly power..
Maybe it was only the unofficial but there was a small speech bubble of a 'tap' in the last version I read. Perhaps Kizaru made a big show out of it but tried to keep the damage to the absolute minimum.
We'll. As minimum as a light speed kick through the frontier dome can be I suppose.... But I think Kizaru is trying to help.
He kicked her into the dome though, that shit is one of the strongest factors in this arc.
I wonder if Kizaru's Coat Cape of Justice will fall off from his shoulders after his defection as Oda stated that if a Marine no longer stay true to Justice they believe in, their Coat Cape will leave them.
cant we just call them copes
It is a bit embarrassing to say this, even as an anonymous user, but I had a dream about Kizaru like a week ago. I noticed in my dream that he does not have the cape on him. It looked a bit off, but I got used to it. He was a really nice guy. We went river sailing. Maybe it was a premonition? What a useless skill that would be.
@@hege1316you got a dream 😂😂..well without a doubt I can say that you are a dieheart fan of one piece.. u on Twitter?
@@hege1316 make sure not to make him fall into the river!
Hes gonna put on his hat again
The themes of this Arc are beautiful, anatomy. What choices do you have in life, the answers could be very little, or a lot depending on what you beleive. There are moments in everyone's lives that define who we are, small moments at that too. Kizaru is heading right for one of these moments.
*Autonomy
I think it’s more realistic that either Kizaru or Caribou gave him the food. Kizaru makes sense because he is close to Vegapunk, Sentomaru, and Bonney, while Caribou makes sense because we haven’t seen him in a while like Wano.
I guessed Kizaru gave luffy the food at first, but that doesn't explain what happened to the marines ordered to put luffy in sea stone cuffs.
I am on team Caribou on who fed luffy and then drowned the marines ordered to stop luffy from recovering
Solution Kizaru fed him Caribou got the marines
If you look closely at the food Luffy is eating you can find the exact same bowl of noodles Kizaru had on the navy ship
I think luffy summoned the food himself. Luffy still doesn’t know he has the nika nika fruit, so he doesn’t know how to use the powers, he’s still on the gum gum train lol. What if his desire to have food so he can help his friends causes his DF to manifest the food. The gorusei say the nika fruit is only limited by its imagination. And he turned the clouds into sunglasses before, so I bet he could turn the rocks or something into food…or maybe just made the food appear from nothing just because he wanted it.
@@johnnypitviperwallace5908 I hope it's not the case, food has always been fuel for luffy
@@johnnypitviperwallace5908 that would be a huge plot issue later on since he could just constantly conjure food up.
i mean it would mean he would always win fights due to attrition by just running away constantly, conjuring food, eating, and then returns at full strength to go again, would be a constant loop until he beats whoever he fights unless they actually knock him out completely.
Maybe Kizaru hates Vagapunk for turning Kuma into a robot? Kizaru maybe able cares to save those who can't save themselves. Kuma and Vagapunk made their choices he can't save them so he is not even going to try.
He doesn't hate vegapunk, and Kuma chose to turn into one on saturn forcing him to, but its clear he doesn't want to take vegapunks life or harm Bonney and sentamaru
Kizaru was given orders to eliminate Vegapunk.
luffy's nika form is on his wanted poster and i imagine kizaru was briefed that luffy has some sort of new power. when he said "there it is" i read it more like that instead of him knowing fully knowing what he's dealing with
Oda has been building Kizaru for this moment as what I feel. Looking back at the time when Kuma saves SHs, he was not sure why he did that and i think he has now made the connection. I think you rightly pointed out that Kizaru knows how much Bonney's safety means for Kuma and the type of person he is, sacrificing his own life to get her cured. But he did defy his orders quite blatantly in front of an Admiral and several marines to save the SHs and this risk may not have made sense to Kizaru. Now, he knows what Luffy is also knows what Kuma had bet on that day. I don't see Kizaru flipping over but he will get Sentomaru and Bonney out of this predicament and ensure that they are safe. I wonder how he will do that though as he needs to seem to be following orders and their escape should appear circumstantial.
Overall, i think Oda has been planning for this character development for Kizaru. He is the only one we do not truly know, what his ideals are and what is his motivation. But one thing is for sure, he cares deeply for Sentomaru and to an extent for Bonney. He respects Kuma and Vegapunk and perhaps it was not a great decision on the WG part to give him the charge here.
Kizaru is my favorite admiral. Hope Oda does something amazing with him.
When you mentioned Sentomarou getting 'wider' I was hoping you'd resurrect the lovely 'rotund' (GrandLineReview TM)
Kizaru has always been one of my favorite characters and I never thought he would be a good guy, if he helps the strawhats he might jump up to being my all time favorite.
Since Kuzan is now a pirate i feel like Borsalino could become a revolutionary because of the ties of vegapunk and kuma to the revolutionaries. That way we would have the 3 "OG" admirals on the 3 big forces of this universe
Kizaru already made his move last chapter. The food that appeared out of nowhere for Luffy probably was his doing, and it's perfectly possible with his speed
I think Kizaru gave away just enough. He's willing to kill Vegapunk because he has to, and I think maybe what he said to Bonney is how he feels. It could be he's unhappy with Dr. Vegapunk going through with converting and effectively killing Kuma. So if Kizaru can trade Dr. Vegapunk for the rest of his family, so be it. At least I think that was his original plan. If Kizaru was what people previously thought of him, he'd be quickly killing them, but he hasn't in a more serious capacity.
I think your spot on. The problem now is everyone he love are in danger.
Kizarus mafioso theme fits his brand of justice so well, he essentially maneuvers like a made man, will kill his friends if it is the best option for the family
Kizaru is very familiar with the story of Nika due to Kuma and Bonney. Maybe fighting Luffy in G5 was what Kizaru needed to see to take a gamble on Kumas behalf and back Luffy/Nika.
The graphics and animations in this episode were great!! Compliments to the artist(s)!
doesn't Sentomaru call Kizaru "uncle" at Sabody?
Love all the new little animations in your videos. Very charming and certainly add to the production quality.
I think people are underestimating Kizaru's abilities. He's an admiral and very skilled with his fruit. His ability is literally the light light fruit allowing him to create images of whatever he wants.
There might be a good possibility that he might've tried to fake Vegapunk's death with an illusion and taken the old man out of the island, then disappeared himself. After all, who could ever catch him?
or the reason they think hes sitting there when the food appeared is because thats a light clone and not the real one.
But anyone has Observation haki so they would know if kizaru starts creating illusiions
@@theomnipotent3574I don't think Observation Haki is meant to be ALWAYS activated though.. ho knows.
@@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081 Yeah but if your in a fight you should definetly use it
will likely never ever happen but it will be a total surprise if kizaru somehow for whatever reason ends up joining the crew.
I don't see him joining them but temporarily ally with them or support them from the background like smoker did in punk hazard
@@yaseen9044 he might make a promise to a dying Kuma to protect his daughter along with Sentomaru... so if Bonney joins Luffy's crew then he and Sentomaru may tag along as support in the same way kin'emon and momo did. Also Caribou isn't a straw hat, but he's been technically traveling with them for a while so it's a total possibility
Он неплохо впишется в команду.
If you noticed, in both face offs with the Strawhats, Kizaru hesitated and delayed finishing blows. I knew this was going to happen
I felt as if a quarter of the episodes were him "charging up", his attack. Like he was really hoping someone would stop him.
@@TheOrovinПовторяется событие на Сабаоди. У него есть приказ, но он не очень хочет его выполнять, поэтому устраивает настоящее шоу, после чего появляются неожиданные события, которые его останавливают(Рейли и Луффи). Я не верю в такие совпадения, особенно если учитывать, что он полностью подавлял Рэйли.
My believe, is that Kizaru already betrayed the World Government.
In the middle of the battle, Saturn is wondering who gave Luffy food that just appeared out of nowhere.
Maybe certain someone who can move at the speed of light decided to drop off a bit of sustenance while everyone was looking at Bonney?
I don’t think Kizaru will fully join the Straw Hats, however, I can see Kizaru escaping Egghead with Luffy and the Straw Hats. As for who joins the Straw Hats, I think Jewelry Bonney is going to join Luffy and the Straw Hats as their apprentice, just like Buggy and Shanks were for Roger.
Kizaru's reaction to Kuma is like Kuzan's reaction when Garp was on the ground. These "rogue" admirals are hiding something...
Theories if Borsalino Aka Kizaru actually switch sides:
1. He will be the last of the OG admirals to left that position, with Sakazuki stepping up to be Fleet admiral and Kuzan joining Blackbeard pirates. So I'd say Borsalino will be joining the Revolutionary Army to complete the faction cycles (Marines, RA, and pirates). Maybe Oda will reveal that Borsalino had known Dragon when he was still in the marines and has been working with him secretly by giving insider information to Dragon acting as a double agent... That or he will join RA and spill their movement to WG.
2. The replacement for him will probably be named Orange rabbit/rat (Daiusagi/Dainezu, using this kanji "橙" as the orange which is spelled 'Daidai'). Considering the other two of the current admiral was named after the color combination of the OG admiral (primary color) and Chinese zodiac.
Orange will be the last color combination from the primary color (red + blue =purple, blue + yellow = green, red + yellow = orange ). With the Ox/Bull and tiger year placed right to each other in the Chinese zodiac, I'd place my Bucket in rat because it is placed before the Bull year. So Dainezu, Ryogokyu, and Fujitora will be the next gen line up of the admiral.
I also have a theory that Fujitora is a double agent who is secretly working for the Revolutionary Army.
We already have two vice admirals with the rabbit and donkey titles, so I'd go with rat.
Early Revolutionary army is probably made up of disgruntled marine that breakaway from Garps group.
I love „Taking the cherry pie path”. It should become one of the classic One Piece sayings.
I really love Kizaru, but I hope he doesn't switch sides.
He goes along with what he is told to do despite his private misgivings because he is beaten down by the system. Where as Aokiji and Fujitora fight against the government, and Akainu and Green Bull embrace the government, Kuzan just passively goes along with it.
He represents how evil is carried out not necessarily by just the bad guys, but by neutral parties who allow it to happen. That's why I love his character.
The thought of Luffy having not only a former warlord among his crew but a former admiral as well would awesome
Thanks forthis great insight on Kizaru as a character :) I hope he switches sides, since he is so cool..
also who gave luffy the food in the last chapter? i personally think it was boa's seraphim :)
It's either Kizaru, Caribou, maybe the Boa seraphim, or Kuma.
bro when he put that poll, i taught he ment kizaru would do like an actual flip, not flip out....
I don’t know why but I laughed so hard reading this haha
Maybe kizaru had a brain implant implanted by Saturn that made him not able to feel emotions. Luffy hit him so hard in the head that the implant broke and now he is slowly starting to feel those emotions again.
I will say the parallels with sabody archipelago and egg head are insane. The celestial dragons and Saturn, the pacifistas, kizaro, and now kuma.
Would you guys say GLR is the Pirate King of One Piece TH-camrs?
He's definitely King for me! Ohara is a close second though.
@@jessicaheath-murphy1030 Correction, Tekking101 is King!
"There is room for this very highLIGHT man."
Lol, I see what you did there.😂
I think kizaru is the one that gave Luffy food. Who else can travel at light speed and get him food that quickly?
and when the panel shows kizaru it could have just been a light clone he left behind thats to trick both the characters and the reader into thinking it possibly wasint him.
Could be Caribou he's definitely still traveling with the straw hats
It will be interesting to see big business flip, the bowl next to all the meat on the floor makes me think it might be him rather that swamp man
i wonder what the next logia will be. i think it will be a water logia
Imagine 😂
I always said that's the fruit power I would chose lol
Kizaru will 100% be Luffy's ally, because what is a sun god without its light?
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Imagine kizaru, kuma, vegapunk, sentomaru and bonney created a pirate crew. That will surely grow into a yonko crew.
Going by our theory that Swamp Man (whos name escapes me at the moment) is the one that supplied food to Luffy, it could be that Kizaru has already begun his rebellion against Saint Saturn by letting Luffy refuel, and we might even have a scene where Saint Saturn is about to gain the upper hand, only for a stray beam of light to pierce through him, to which Kizaru would simply claim "Well shucks boss I was aiming for Luffy but you ended up getting in my way, terribly sorry there"
😮
Forget powerscaling the Admirals have so much to offer as a character in both being insanely strong and being complex as a character compared to one dimensional characters like Kaido or Bigmom.
The only time Kizaru was ever clear about anything was when he realized that he couldn’t beat Ben Beckman in a fight.
I know predicting new Grand Fleet crews is played out and unrealistic by now, but man, the Bonney Pirates with a crew of Kuma, Kizaru, Sentomaru, the Vegapunks, and Stussy would be a monster addition.
If Kizaru turns, it makes Garp's decisions and actions even more questionable.
Kizaru who's the most robotic of the admirals turning when his loved ones are threatened but Garp not being able to do anything feels so out of character for him.
Garp had absolute trust in white beard saving ace. The same trust that he had for roger
Boney wants vegapunk to give back kuma's humanity and if not kill him
….
I wonder how much everyone’s bounties would jump up by if The Straw Hats defeat or even slay Saturn and word gets out?
Striking down one of The Five Elders for all to see would probably put Luffy and company around equal standing with Gol D. Rodger himself.
Luffy, kuma, kizaru VS St' Saturn
Truly a legendary battle
“Kizaru has made his choice!”
* speculation *
Perhaps Kizaru finds the actions of the world government so morally objectionable that he KNOWS the moment he gives himself any agency is the moment he will go against them, and thusly he does everything he can to avoid thinking, making himself "just a tool" disconnecting himself from his actions by not having a decision to make in the first place.
We could also mention that while Luffys causing havoc and Kizaru is resting on the boat the marines are asking for him and he says let me rest. Almost as if he’s conflicted or he’s milking an injury so that way he doesn have to go up against bonney , kuma, sentomaru or vegapunks. Almost like he trusts Luffy to escape
14:26 OMG THIS BONNEY ART IT'S SO ADORABLE OMG
It would be cool seeing Kizaru acting the Smoker role when Zoro pulls him out of the lake, with perhaps Kizaru watching the strawhats escape and Saturn yelling at him to act yet he just stands there and watches as they fade into the horizon
Не, его же "вырубили" все схвачено и просчитано.
Im actually even more convinced he is a good guy after the latest chapter. When he shot his laser to Vegapunk, he shot it at the exact same location Vegapunk was stabbed by the Gorosei.
yeah his heart
This theories is a mixed bag
The 5 of them dancing the Nika pizza dance is my computer background❤❤❤
Kizaru dancing the Nika dance already solidified it for me that he well aid our Joy Boy in the future.
Hes gonna pull a subtle Kuzan, almost like when kuzan let robin live "meaning he'll do somthing thatll help the strawhats but without betraying the world government"
could be that kizaru when he was knocked out by Laffy. His head was knocked like in cartoon where characters either lose or regain memory. it could be that punch to his head removed any sort of mind control, brainwash or erased memory.
Never in my wildest dreams i thought of Kizaru joining us, i mean when he was introduced as menace.But if Kizaru really join Luffy, he could have that fight with Benn Beckman, when Straw hats will clash with Shanks crew in future.
Feel like if luffy crew does fight shanks crew it make sense for zoro to fight benn no? Captain vs captain, vice captain vs vice captain
The fact he did the Nika dance with Kuma, Bonney, Sentomaru and Vegapunk solidified his betrayal to the Marines
I think this arc is going to wrap up as one of the best arcs in one piece or even anime history, I know there is some level or recency bias to that, however this arc has been TIGHT its been perfectly paced, like perfectly. Even the lore chapters somehow feel action packed, yet I have not once felt confused or like I'm misunderstanding the course of events. Even Odas maps of the Island have just made everything so clear week to week, I actually know where everything is taking place. I also think the Kuma backstory is a masterpiece, not just because it's all "oh look at Kuma his life has been so hard, and also bonny's too". There's so much more to the backstory, I'm fairly certain it's all intentional however if it isn't it's a perfect coincidence because it truly brings this story together in a way I never thought possible. So, I don't think you're supposed to see Kuma as the victim. I'll explain. I think we are supposed to recognize that Kuma is a flawed person and the only person that seems to realize that is him(and Saturn I'll get there). Kuma had one great sin that he committed in this backstory which set the course of his later life in motion. Kuma couldn't choose between Dragon and Ginny. By extension he also couldn't choose between his desire to be or to find Nika, and to bring liberation, or his desire to live in peace. Dragon represents liberation, Ginny is his peace. If he had married Ginny, if he had chosen peace, chances are he may never have met Dragon. They may still have met, however I don't see Kuma going off to war after marrying at that age. I think if he chose Ginny that would have been what it took to make him stay in sorbet forever(for better or for worse). However, Ginny would follow Kuma anywhere. When Dragon saved Kuma and Ginny and Kuma chose to devote himself to Dragon, he committed himself to being a warrior. I think it's intentional Irony when Oda calls Kuma a Pacifist. When Kuma chose to go with Dragon, he sealed Ginny's fate. I think he knew that all his life, that's why I can't blame Dragon for Ginny's disappearance. So when Ginny was gone Kuma devoted himself fully to the life of a warrior, however when Ginny returned with Bonny here Kuma saw his chance to make right by Ginny for the mistake he had made. So he devoted himself to taking care of Bonny when he found out about her disease. Here again he did something he would always regret. He turned away from Dragon his Idol, when he really truly needed him. That's why Kuma would return to Dragon so often during his time as a warlord despite the risks, he just couldn't stay away. So Kuma abandoned the revolutionary army an organization he created, for the daughter of the women he regretted never marrying. What makes St. Jay Garcia such an amazing villain here, is he knows Kuma's weakness. He knows how he can use Ginny and Bonny against him, he knows one day Kuma would come to him for help because he's the only one capable of doing so. He also knows Kuma's revolutionary desires. He knows he can use these two warring conditions against Kuma. So when Kuma turned up at Vega Punks door looking for help, Garcia sprung his trap. Here Kuma officially abandoned the revolutionary Army, even so Dragon never blamed him, and I'll get to that more. The next important event is nothing happened. Kuma helped Luffy and his crew because here he saw his chance to do right by Dragon, and to fulfil his desires for liberation, even when he is a warrior of oppression. Kuma saw Luffy's potential and even considered that he might be Nika. However, I don't think Kuma was fully convinced of that at the time. So then we finally come to when Kuma is erased completely. Here Kuma tells us he doesn't want us to consider him the victim of this story. He says something to the effect of "I hope I was able to do right by everyone I've troubled". Which isn't verbatim, however it's not very off from the sentiment. And I think this is very telling. Then when Vegapunk tells him that the people he has touched will miss him. However, Kuma let's his last words the last things he remembers hearing or saying be a self sacrifice, "tell Bonny to have a happy 10th birthday". Even to his very end he was trying to atone for the mistakes he feels he has made. Now that said what makes this amazing. Is everyone who has ever been touched by Kuma has already forgiven him. In some cases the forgiveness is not given, because it was never needed. I think the most telling case is Dragon telling Kuma about Vegapunk. Dragon knew who Vegapunk was, he knew the risk it would be for Kuma and that he might have to sacrifice something to get what he wanted. He also knew this would likely be the last time Dragon and Kuma saw each other as allies. However, Dragon was perfectly comfortable being the thing Kuma gave up. Because Dragon asks nothing more from his people than their commitment, with no regrets. If someone can't commit to the cause anymore without some regret that's okay. Because life should be one lived without regrets. However, Kuma had already made his greatest mistake, and he would be playing out its consequences for the rest of his life. I don't think Kuma is to blame in reality, some things are out of our control. And there's nothing wrong with choosing liberation over peace, they are both equally noble. However, Kuma could never choose just one, and in failing to do so, he doomed himself and those around him. That's also why he isn't Nika. Nika needs to be able to act without regret, he needs to be able to choose without conflict. Kuma couldn't, however, Luffy is the most headstrong and confidently stubborn character in the verse. That's why he's Nika, that also might be something Kuma recognized in Luffy. Which also makes the separation of the straw hats really powerful from Kuma's perspective. Watching Luffy freak out after everyone was gone and blame himself for not being able to save them, Kuma knew exactly what Luffy was going through, he knew the feeling and he also knew it wasn't Luffy's fault. Not really. There are just some powers that need to be stood up to, however usually that means certain death. Kuma knows that, that's why he chose to save them all. As well as choosing to protect the ship. He saw Luffy's pain. He might have even seen a little bit of Dragons pain when Kuma left, and Ginny was captured, and Ivankov was captured. Dragon was pretty much losing all of his closest allies all the way through pre-timeskip. However, he kept going. He kept training a new generation, he had faith his comrades would return to him one day. Dragon is probably one of the most patient and honorable characters in the world. It upsets me a lot that people slander him. He ain't like Yassop abandoning Ussop and his sick wife. Anyway, Kuma seeing Luffy's pain probably triggered something for him . I also think there might be an aspect of Kuma didn't feel like his business was complete so he couldn't be completely erased, at least until Bonny is completely safe.this might be why his body is still moving and acting like he's still alive, and why he can use haki even though he should have no willpower.
Doflamingo's words are becoming true 20 chapters at a time
Imu: [Blows up inhabited island]
Kizaru: “Wait… are we the baddies?”
Imagine if Kizaru becomes the 10th member to join Luffys crew
I like that you included Mr Pandaman in the celestial dragons crowd. But Mr Pandaman is too cool, he would never be a celestial dragon.
If anything close happens on egg head just proves how good the grandlinereveiw is and productions go crazy
I think you brought up a good point that Kizaru would be the voice of reason on military operations to St Saturn. Like you said, Saturn doesn't care about military losses as long as the goal can be completed, but it's up to the Marines and the admirals to get the results in military fashion
when i saw kizaru and everyone else eating pizza and dancing like nika i knew for a fact that kizaru couldnt truly be a bad person
True that.. there’s never been any being in any stories about pizza places, where one might enjoy pizza, that is a murderer… wait, robots… pizza… murder… is One Piece in FNAF?
“Which one is sadder? A clone with free will, or an admiral without one?”
This is why One Piece is so great. Everyone kept making fight predictions about which admiral will fight which Straw Hat for years and almost decades now. Now it's about which admiral will join the Straw Hats to battle the evil admiral's. Oda really is a master story teller. :D
Vegapunk doesn’t like that kizaru be hogging all that zaza
We also have Fujitora who would share his experiences in Dressrosa and advocate for Luffy during an office talk.
It is easy to say you are a cog in the machine when you have nothing to compel you not to. I find this to be a good way to finally have one of the last original Admiral trio to defect or leave the marines.
What tells us that Kizaru hasn’t already helped the straw hats ? He might have been the one who fed luffy without anyone noticing, he does move faster than light and that would be in perfect Kizaru fashion. Subtle help without compromising his position as a marine admiral.
Talking about the intimate things you hate about someone is one of the strongest signs of friendship.