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He clearly mentioned that the add-on's were optional and explained why he felt them necessary for him. Personally, I would add nearly every feature that he did for the very same reasons. Getting info from a guy who has actually owned one for 3 years is all useful information. Just pay attention and stop trying to find something to be critical about.
@@markviqueira339 I think what the guy above you is saying is that the title of this video should be "here's how much I spent on add-ons that most people don't need (and likely never had previously)" I mean $1800 protection film that got destroyed anyways? $300 for police radar and mount? $200 for window tints?
@@moe-lr5xb Yeah, I do see your point to a degree. He could have separated some of those costs at the end to show a clearer analysis. I suppose I view the Tesla as an actual investment, which is different than I see all other cars... as depreciating metal. Since I view the Tesla as an "investment", just as the guy in the video views it (car as an "investment"...still kind of hard for me to say), the maintenance cost to preserve it is probably understated and I think that's where he was coming from. Some of those extras such as the protective film are in my opinion necessary. The film is generally pretty amazing stuff and doesn't need to be changed every year or anything like that (TH-cam has lots of videos). That was a serious rock that went through it. The protective film is not designed to protect against the sort of thing like that would prompt a call to a body shop and one's insurance company. Anyway, I appreciate your comments. Points taken.
@@markviqueira339 I appreciate you reading and replying with an open mind- totally understand if you want these add-ons, and you're right that whatever went through that film was probably the size of a baseball at a high speed... I'm on the east coast and I've been doing a lot of research online about buying a tesla and I was just really disappointed that I didn't learn anything new based on what the video was titled. I've had the same car for ten years and never had a need for any of those things this guy brings up in the video. Only thing I would seriously consider is the at-home charging station and even then I'm sure I would survive without it, it would just be a convenience thing.
Nice way to go through all the costs of the car. Feels like about the same as any other car, with the exception of the installation of the home charger
True but you can get a pretty nice discount on that depending on your state. Plus the amount you save on gas and engine repair really makes up for these minor issues tenfold.
Boil down all the add ons put on this Tesla and the one really worth the expense was the front end protection. The insurance is reasonable but registration fees are crazy.
I disagree as there are no oil changes, fluid changes, air filters, fuel filters, tune-ups, exhaust pipes, 02 sensors and the electricity is so much cheaper at the gasoline equivalent of 43 cents per gallon if the average car gets 25mpg. He purchased a lot of extras that you would get on any car if you wanted them adding to "cost".
@@philorgneopolotin8762 Tesla has an issue with pricing of parts and authorized dealers able to work on them. Teslas are not without faults and expense. You either run out the clock on the battery and spend to replace it or trade off the vehicle at some point. The money game is still there only the layout of the game board has changed.
I recently convinced my parents that our next car should be electric because of the cost, and I mainly got into electric cars thanks to you Andy, so thank you so much for bringing my attention to electric vehicles!
Excellent review Andy on the cost to drive a Tesla model 3. My car which I bought in October of 2018 has six to eight thousand miles on it, I have solar on the roof of my house, and the two most expensive parts to owning this car over my 330i BMW would be the insurance and the registration with the state of California. I've had over seven to nine cars in my lifetime and the Tesla model 3 has been the best car I have purchased since I was age 17. Having said that, I hope to keep the car at least 20 years if I live that long and have zero regrets in my purchase. All the improvements you've made to your car I have done to mine and find that it only made the car nicer and easier to wash and maintain. Your presentation was professional and enjoyable.
@@lanceareadbhar you don't have to do this at all, but if you want to protect any nice car its a wise choice if you can afford it, this is not specific to Tesla
Yeah! That is NOT right! How did your state greedy politicians get away with that?!?! You need a rebellion to overturn that & kick the greedy politicians who voted for that out! SERIOUSLY! I pay $83. yearly for my F-250 & THAT IS HIGH! In Texas, we charge based on weight of vehicle since the heavier tears down the roads more that the little passenger vehicles like yours. What state did u mention you are in? Insurance, wow! With those high deductibles I saw ($1000.) I am afraid to tell u what I pay for fear of really pissing you off.....especially since I am in a huge gas guzzler! (If it makes you feel better, I ***AM*** placing my deposit for the Ford Lightning EV in the next couple of days. The insurance cost on it should be a heck of a lot lower than the Cyber truck) So far, you have paid more on your car than I did on my house! My house is NOT depriciating in fact it has APPRECIATED quite nicely & will last way after my lifetime! I did love u protecting your hood, that is critical for ANY vehicle. What is the difference between that vs. a full body wrap? Anyone? In Texas, we HATE glass. Even with film on my windows the Sun rotisseries my entire arm as I drive. If I cud replace all my glass with metal, I wud in a heartbeat! We have triple digit weather a lot around here!
@@TexasLocalProduce It's a spammer. They pop up on comments with a phone number hoping someone will try to contact them. And a full body wrap here in Seattle is $5k-$8k
The cost was more than I expected but the caveat is that you did say your have traveled more in the car on average than most people. I'm still looking forward to getting my Tesla this fall. Love your videos. Keep 'em coming! :-)
I installed home charger myself and the parts cost $150. This is must have if you are home owner and like the convenience of night charing while you sleep. Other than that, the registration fee, insurance fee are all go with the cost of the car. More expensive car, more fees. The rest are personal preference, not hidden fee.
My Model 3 SR+ is being delivered soon. I had it scheduled for the 30th on the site, then my local center called me and said the car was still in transit and I can pick it up on the 3rd. I HOPE it's not delayed again.
Pretty crazy how much prices have dropped since the beginning of the Model 3. My AWD LR Model 3 was $48,990, which is still expensive but going to end up saving me money over any other car I would have gotten. It's a great time to drive electric
Yep, in Washington state gas cars are a flat $68.00 while my 2014 Leaf is $298.00 and less than 3% of the Cars are EV’s…..and legislature wants to raise them even more!
The thing that really counts is lifetime economic viability. The average life of a gasoline car in the US is 18 years. Remember this is average, so half the population goes longer. Some, much longer. The issue is whether these e-vehicles are able to power those car owners who use the second half of a gas car's life. These are people who do not put in massive capital expense. They may buy a car for $4000 to $10 000 and drive it for 100k miles. The problem for Tesla, is that it lasts for about 10 - 12 years, and then experiences total battery failure. That causes an economic end of life. So there are few or no amortized miles available on these vehicles in sharp contrast to gas cars. That is one of the pressing issues with electric vehicles, and it will have to be solved before mass adoption.
Andy your hidden cost video is so helpful, I have a better sense of cost in owning a Tesla in which I plan to buy! All the things you mentioned are really needed! I’m in California which the registration is probably going to be so expensive! I will play this video over and over again! Thank you so much for breaking it down!🌟🌟⭐️⭐️⭐️💝💝💖🔥💖
Did you notice that MOST of the money Andy spent in the first 3 years of his Tesla ownership were either discretionary expenses (front end wrap, window tinting, installation of level 2 charging station, purchase of self driving software, radar detector) or unavoidable fees (insurance, taxes, registration, etc.) that everyone who owns any car must pay? I bought a used Model S a year and a half ago and the only expenses I have incurred other than the unavoidables were a new 12V battery and a pair of tires. The actual cost of ownership of my Tesla is MUCH lower than ANY car I have ever owned (I'm over 65 and have owned 15 cars so far). This video makes it sound like owning a Tesla is deceptively expensive -- IT IS NOT. Even with the limited range of my Tesla I will NEVER buy another obsolete internal combustion car again.
Can u explain the tire situation with tesla? No spare correct? I drive 120miles a day so I'll pick one up. And will it store in the trunk under the mat? And do they have some kind of slime or foam inside them? If you get tires without that will it mess with performance or road noise? TIA
Correct there is no spare. And there isn’t enough room under the mat to store one. To be fair, many cars don’t have a spare tire, been like this for over a decade. There’s no Slime in the tires. Lol
It looks like your total monthly cost of ownership Is approximately $80 less than the average monthly cost of an auto lease in the US. More people need to pick up on the perspective here!✌️😎
The very second you said that you were hoping to keep your car for at least 10 years, I gave you a thumbs up (even though I think you'll upgrade well within that time). I'm fed up with listening to TH-camrs saying that leasing is the only way to go. I buy all my car's and keep them for at least 5 years (currently c class 5 years, previously 3 series 7 years). I personally like seeing on my drive after 5 years that I own my cars. If my next car is electric then I expect to keep it for between 7 to 10 years. I earn good money, but would never keep swapping cars every 3 years like it's going out of fashion, that's really not the way that I operate. Anyway, this is a great informative video, so keep them coming and stay safe during these trying times...
Thanks a million. It's so great to get the true facts of ownership. It looks like about the same as any other upper tier vehicle, except for the super home charger. But that is offset by no oil changes. Also, it won't need "tuning up" or "engine decarbonizing" or other IC engine crap. Hopefully, the A/C unit won't break the bank when it finally goes. Tires aren't very bad either. Overall, it looks like a pretty good deal if one can afford the upfront cost.
The sensors around the car - cameras of course, but are there non-camera sensors too? If I buy a Tesla for the Canadian climate, the roads can get very dirty. I'm always needing to clean the backup camera lens on my Subaru. Also, I'd like to be able to see behind the car even when not in reverse. I hate not having rear visibility (apparently bad in the Tesla Y), so can you keep the backup cameras on in the screen when you're not in reverse?
Just knowing I don’t have to take my vehicle in to the stealership while the average ‘technician’ screws around while doing maintenance is half worth it alone
Video title should be changed to something more along the lines of “what my Tesla has cost me so far” instead of “HIDDEN costs”. Not only is it clickbait, but it’s bar clickbait because it’s severely underrepresented in the video.
new cars result in new car costs, duh. I drove my Tesla to a wedding held 150 miles away. If I had taken my MBZ the gas alone would have cost about $34 round trip. Charged the Tesla at home (for free*), and the cost to top-off at the supercharger was... wait for it... $6.93. That is it in a nutshell.
Yeah it's so cheap driving. My friend who says he can so much about cars says it costs more to charge a tesla than it cost to fill up a gas car. And he is a so called 'expert'
Terrific video, Andy! Like you said at the top, every dollar (including discretionary) you’ve spent thus far. Buying any new car is not a cheap process, though there are less (and more) expensive ones than Tesla. We’ve had our Model 3 for two months and really love it! Yesterday it was 99 degrees (F) here. We were shopping at Target, and before we checked out, I looked at the interior temp: 115 degrees! No sweat - just turned on Climate and by the time we got to the car it was a chill 72 degrees inside! Nice.
Your videos are fantastic! This is the second one I’ve watched. Last night I watched the 51 minute video that went over everything! Thanks to you, when my Tesla arrives in September, I will be well prepared! Thank you.
Good job Andy... Left me wanting a tiny bit more like a simple breakdown of fixed cost (charger etc.) and variable cost like consumables, taxes, yearly repair... Separated so I don't have to think too much:-)
I would love to own a tesla but going by the 3.5 year pay off loan I can only afford to spend 10 thousand on a car. How long do you think until I can by a used one for under 10k. Thanks
I've had similar experiences with my 2018 Model 3. Last Spring, I paid $35 for a tire rotation at a Tesla Service Center, and they performed a recall that had never been done (something about updating the pins in the charging connector). it is probably not a bad idea to get to a Tesla Service Center every year or two, and ask about outstanding recalls. Thanks for all the great videos!
I bought Tesla all weather mats, and a few accessories like a console vinyl, wireless charging pad, new hubcaps to replace the aero covers. New tires after 26k for $1100 dollars has been my only major expense. What kind of tires did you install for that cheap?
Thank you for all of this information, very good to know and consider when buying a Tesla. What did you mean by taxi service at the end? I couldn't make out what you were really saying.
It is part of Ellon's ultimate self driving plan. Think Uber but it is your car driving itself around with a paying customer in it. This way your tesla could make you money when you are not using it.
I like the way Mr. Slye keeps track of all expenses. I wouldn't attribute the ticket or radar detector to driving costs, but that shows he is comprehensive. Like with other expensive vehicles, you really don't have to worry about the costs of driving a Tesla. You know going in the cost per mile will be much higher than buying a used car, but you have the money and like driving a Tesla so it doesn't matter. The real issue with Teslas is charging and where you want to travel to.
Hi Andy - when I had a mobile service visit, the tech said when it's time to rotate your tires, we'll come out and do it for $50 (as you said in the video). I recently looked at the Walmart website in the tire service area, and see they only charge $2.50/wheel to rotate the tires. So, $10 for complete rotation. I have not yet needed this service, but when I do I will check Walmart to see if this is still being offered at this price. Keep up the good work.
My dad owns a model 3 2020 also, he is 65 retired, had issues with trunk lid no closing evenly, door handles replaced 3 times, power drive unit replaced once, rattling noise, yes they did not cost him a penny, still under warranty. He figured out, if he hadn't warranty, it would have costed him a whopping 11k. He is paying a much higher insurance premium compared to my mom's toyota camry. Lucky for him, the tesla is leased.
1 thing that nobody is saying on their tesla reviews is .... when you use a tesla charger how do you pay for the charge .. ? is it by contactless debit card ? or credit account or other means ?
No credit card needed. Just plug in and charge. It gets automatically charged to the credit card that’s tied to the Tesla car’s account. See here th-cam.com/video/tFdxxEhsLzI/w-d-xo.html
Most states are not friendly when it comes to EV. They preach everyone to go electric, but slap you with additional charges during registration and renewal. Still you cannot take delivery of Tesla in some states, you have to drive to the nearest state or Tesla will ship.
I have snow tires for each of our vehicles so I have to change (which is like rotating) many tires each year. For 40 years I have let tire stores mount and balance but I always put the wheels and tires on my vehicles. I am afraid if I let a tire shop use an air impact wrench then I will have a hard time loosening the bolts if I get a flat (I always carry a full sized spare). When I was younger I would autocross race which required I change 8 tires/wheels most Summer Saturdays. So I would never pay $50 for a tire rotation when I could do it myself in under 15 minutes.
Exactly what tires did you purchase from Tire Rack for $640 and did you have them drop shipped and the installation was included in the $640? Or were there other expenses with the new tires
Very informative video but not very useful. A lot of these costs are optional and not unique to Tesla, such as the PPF and like most things you can go crazy and spend lots of money to do up a new car. What would have been helpful is a list of mandatory costs that are unique to Tesla. And looking at the video, none of it is, even the Wall Charger, you can still run a Tesla without it, and is cheaper to ‘refill’ at a Super Charger than a ICE car. Even if you consider the wall charger as a necessity, it’s not unique to Tesla and applies to all EV. As I say, not very useful. Even the silly radar detector applies to all cars if you go fast enough. Has nothing to do with acceleration, it’s the speed at the time of being clocked.
I watched a few of Andy's videos in the past that were good. The title of this video is very misleading... most of the costs listed wouldn't be much different with the purchase of any other car... The only added cost I have had with my Tesla, besides what I have done with any of my past vehicles, is the installation of a Tesla wall charger, which came out to about $1k and I ended up getting about $300 back in rebates.
K, you spent thousands more on add-ons and went super picky on everything. That’s on you. I would have just tinted the windows and called it good. 🤷🏼♂️
You've convinced me. I'll stick with my used $5000 Toyota, at least until something goes wrong and I replace it with another one. Even with gas and maintenance costs, total cost of ownership won't even get into 5 figures over 3 years. And then I get to buy a newer, improved Toyota. Unless I see a used EV for a similar price. So far I haven't seen that, it's more like about double the price for something with less than one third of the range.
I always enjoy your content. You might want to think about making a video breaking down the cost of a similarly priced ICE car. This breakdown of your costs for your Tesla was lower than I thought it would be. Keep up the good work.
am I the only person a defective Model 3 was delivered to? Calling Tesla customer service, I was forced to listen to "use the Tesla mobile app" many times -- while the app itself was inoperative as the car was in for service and offline. Does anyone else suspect Tesla is pushing out cars beyond the paltry quality control measures that may or may not exist. Tesla repair centers are not sitting empty, waiting for unbreakable cars that might appear. So far the expense I have put into a new Model 3 far exceeds the money involved. The very FIRST time I sat in the car, the touchscreen froze up, am I to believe it was working well for any and all that drove the car from production to delivery center. J.D. Power lists Tesla as the very worst for number of defects per 100 new car deliveries -- absolute WORST.
The problem with removing pieces is that the clips can break. Most have techniques that do not require removal and some get as close as possible since most of these kits have computer designed diagrams that cut the ppf based on the vehicle and section.
The cost of ownership for my wife's 2004 Mercedes E320: Initial cost $55,000 (paid cash) or $3,250/year (let's make it $3,500 to include interest). She drives 10,000 miles/year. So depreciation is $0.35/mile. It averages 25 MPG. At $4.50/gal for Premium (gotta love living in California) the cost per mile for gas is $0.18/mile. I do all the maintenance and repairs (except a couple things that were under warrantee). Total spent on maintenance is $80/oil change every 8,000 miles or $0.01/mile. Corrective maintenance over the past 17 years includes replacing the fuel pump ($500), front suspension arms (squeaky permanently lubed bearings) ($2,500), Crankshaft position sensor ($106), Front wheel bearings ($500), transmission service -replace fluid and filter ($500), misc. ($500). Total corrective maintenance $4,106/170,000 miles = $0.025/mile (call it $0.03). I'm not including things like brakes, tires, windshield wipers (or even the windshield which we did have replaced) as that would be the same with a Tesla. Total cost/mile around $0.60/mile. Now according to a Yahoo article a Tesla Model X or Y costs around $730/month or $8,760. For 10,000 miles/year that would come to a cost of $0.88/mile. Now I should point out that the Mercedes gets well over 500 miles/tank on long trips. And it takes maybe 15 minutes to 'recharge the battery (tank) to full'. Now I do like the fact an electric doesn't need someone like me to maintain it so it would be good for my wife if I wasn't around.
How about warranty if you super charge . fast charge the battery? I bet manufacturers log this and might cost thousands to buy new packs. Why do Tesla's in Europe cost more than US pay???
You should come register your car in Cincinnati, Kentucky and Indiana are ridiculous with the registration fees! I can't wait to get a Model Y.... it is my plan to have one before the end of 2022.... I'm hoping they roll out that new battery!
Hard to believe insurance is that low on an expensive high tech vehicle that would cost a lot to fix. Even with $1k deductible. Plus he puts on a lot of miles per yr.
This is a great video thanks! Some things that would be helpful is that some of these expenses you will have regardless of the type of car. Of interest is what is going to be above an ICE car. Example Insurance tire rotations, Body shop stuff. Probably hard to quantify some of it. I did hear that you can extend your brake life and battery life doing two things. Regenerative braking should put more time between brake jobs which should save and charging battery to 70 to 80 percent unless you are going on a trip. That is said to extend battery life which will be a big expense at some point although they are getting cheaper. So do you know what it would have cost you for a comparable ICE vehicle? Like a BMW (no comparison, but this has been suggested by others)??
Hi Andy, To get better comparison, add up same cost for a petrol engine new car and then work out the real savings, think your tesla would come out front plus the pure delight of this excellent vehicle is worth something, plus the way better trade value
Each time the TM3 selling price drops by xyz dollars because of VW ID3 competition, tomorrow’s insane Toyota, etc. and poor EU sales, the existing TM3 bought at the previous high price is caught by an instant value reduction of also the same xyz dollars plus a normal vehicle depreciation, so in fact, a ton of money…Then, after 3-4 years when you finally got it right and want to get rid of the TM3, there will be less than 100 buyers for the 1000 others on sale with ageing batteries, wrong colour, etc..so…good luck!!! And don’t forget to evaluate the damage, since purchase price minus selling price divided by the miles in between equal cost of ownership per mile…and only real transaction prices are relevant and often they can be far below the advertized levels..
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That’s awesome, I owned my model 3 for 2 1/2 years and so far I spent $150 to change the in cabin filters.
Wow, you over paid!
@@Resist4 well, it depends on how many miles he drove during those years
@@quarantinetime6836 then he should have said how many times he’s replaced the filters.
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Should really only include running costs and repairs, and some context. Personal choices to add stuff is not really part of the equation.
He clearly mentioned that the add-on's were optional and explained why he felt them necessary for him. Personally, I would add nearly every feature that he did for the very same reasons. Getting info from a guy who has actually owned one for 3 years is all useful information. Just pay attention and stop trying to find something to be critical about.
@@markviqueira339 I think what the guy above you is saying is that the title of this video should be "here's how much I spent on add-ons that most people don't need (and likely never had previously)" I mean $1800 protection film that got destroyed anyways? $300 for police radar and mount? $200 for window tints?
@@moe-lr5xb Yeah, I do see your point to a degree. He could have separated some of those costs at the end to show a clearer analysis. I suppose I view the Tesla as an actual investment, which is different than I see all other cars... as depreciating metal. Since I view the Tesla as an "investment", just as the guy in the video views it (car as an "investment"...still kind of hard for me to say), the maintenance cost to preserve it is probably understated and I think that's where he was coming from. Some of those extras such as the protective film are in my opinion necessary. The film is generally pretty amazing stuff and doesn't need to be changed every year or anything like that (TH-cam has lots of videos). That was a serious rock that went through it. The protective film is not designed to protect against the sort of thing like that would prompt a call to a body shop and one's insurance company. Anyway, I appreciate your comments. Points taken.
@@markviqueira339 I appreciate you reading and replying with an open mind- totally understand if you want these add-ons, and you're right that whatever went through that film was probably the size of a baseball at a high speed... I'm on the east coast and I've been doing a lot of research online about buying a tesla and I was just really disappointed that I didn't learn anything new based on what the video was titled. I've had the same car for ten years and never had a need for any of those things this guy brings up in the video. Only thing I would seriously consider is the at-home charging station and even then I'm sure I would survive without it, it would just be a convenience thing.
@@markviqueira339 A while ago, but as I remember, he included those as "cost of ownership". It's not.
Nice way to go through all the costs of the car. Feels like about the same as any other car, with the exception of the installation of the home charger
True but you can get a pretty nice discount on that depending on your state. Plus the amount you save on gas and engine repair really makes up for these minor issues tenfold.
Boil down all the add ons put on this Tesla and the one really worth the expense was the front end protection. The insurance is reasonable but registration fees are crazy.
I disagree as there are no oil changes, fluid changes, air filters, fuel filters, tune-ups, exhaust pipes, 02 sensors and the electricity is so much cheaper at the gasoline equivalent of 43 cents per gallon if the average car gets 25mpg. He purchased a lot of extras that you would get on any car if you wanted them adding to "cost".
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Tesla has an issue with pricing of parts and authorized dealers able to work on them. Teslas are not without faults and expense. You either run out the clock on the battery and spend to replace it or trade off the vehicle at some point. The money game is still there only the layout of the game board has changed.
A gas powered car is way cheaper
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And no payments !
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I recently convinced my parents that our next car should be electric because of the cost, and I mainly got into electric cars thanks to you Andy, so thank you so much for bringing my attention to electric vehicles!
That is awesome!
@@aslye we’re did you get your windows tinted I’m in cincinnati Ohio every one wants 700$ or more to tint a model 3
Video should be called "MY HIDDEN COSTS OF OWNING A TESLA" lol.
Excellent review Andy on the cost to drive a Tesla model 3. My car which I bought in October of 2018 has six to eight thousand miles on it, I have solar on the roof of my house, and the two most expensive parts to owning this car over my 330i BMW would be the insurance and the registration with the state of California.
I've had over seven to nine cars in my lifetime and the Tesla model 3 has been the best car I have purchased since I was age 17. Having said that, I hope to keep the car at least 20 years if I live that long and have zero regrets in my purchase. All the improvements you've made to your car I have done to mine and find that it only made the car nicer and easier to wash and maintain. Your presentation was professional and enjoyable.
Very little of the expenses you mentioned are specific to Tesla
This is exactly what I thought. Is this your very first car?
Having to get a paint protection film on a $50,000 car is pretty ridiculous.
@@lanceareadbhar you don't have to do this at all, but if you want to protect any nice car its a wise choice if you can afford it, this is not specific to Tesla
Why does it cost 50 dollars to rotate tiers
@@narutobullock never had my tiers rotated, good question
State property tax on vehicles?! That feels like a moral violation.
Its comon around the world
Yeah! That is NOT right! How did your state greedy politicians get away with that?!?! You need a rebellion to overturn that & kick the greedy politicians who voted for that out! SERIOUSLY!
I pay $83. yearly for my F-250 & THAT IS HIGH! In Texas, we charge based on weight of vehicle since the heavier tears down the roads more that the little passenger vehicles like yours. What state did u mention you are in?
Insurance, wow! With those high deductibles I saw ($1000.)
I am afraid to tell u what I pay for fear of really pissing you off.....especially since I am in a huge gas guzzler! (If it makes you feel better, I ***AM*** placing my deposit for the Ford Lightning EV in the next couple of days. The insurance cost on it should be a heck of a lot lower than the Cyber truck)
So far, you have paid more on your car than I did on my house! My house is NOT depriciating in fact it has APPRECIATED quite nicely & will last way after my lifetime!
I did love u protecting your hood, that is critical for ANY vehicle. What is the difference between that vs. a full body wrap? Anyone? In Texas, we HATE glass. Even with film on my windows the Sun rotisseries my entire arm as I drive. If I cud replace all my glass with metal, I wud in a heartbeat! We have triple digit weather a lot around here!
@@ellenthompson803 What does that mean?
@@TexasLocalProduce It's a spammer. They pop up on comments with a phone number hoping someone will try to contact them. And a full body wrap here in Seattle is $5k-$8k
Who ever said the State was moral?
The cost was more than I expected but the caveat is that you did say your have traveled more in the car on average than most people. I'm still looking forward to getting my Tesla this fall. Love your videos. Keep 'em coming! :-)
I installed home charger myself and the parts cost $150. This is must have if you are home owner and like the convenience of night charing while you sleep. Other than that, the registration fee, insurance fee are all go with the cost of the car. More expensive car, more fees. The rest are personal preference, not hidden fee.
My Model 3 SR+ is being delivered soon. I had it scheduled for the 30th on the site, then my local center called me and said the car was still in transit and I can pick it up on the 3rd. I HOPE it's not delayed again.
Damn, I remember when you announced your reservation for the Model 3. Times been flyyying
Pretty crazy how much prices have dropped since the beginning of the Model 3. My AWD LR Model 3 was $48,990, which is still expensive but going to end up saving me money over any other car I would have gotten. It's a great time to drive electric
$400+ dollars for registration? That's crazy, I pay $65 for my car and people here complain about having to pay that.
Yep, in Washington state gas cars are a flat $68.00 while my 2014 Leaf is $298.00 and less than 3% of the Cars are EV’s…..and legislature wants to raise them even more!
Ah. Probably coming to every state at some point. We don’t pay any gas tax which most states use for roads. I won’t like it, but probably fair.
Wow must be nice I just renewed my registration for my truck here in California and it was $601
People will make that back in half a year of normal driving just from savings on gas. That’s a very very short term problem
Any vehicles more than 10 years old in Iowa is flat $50 a year but not sure about electric vehicles registration costs.
The thing that really counts is lifetime economic viability. The average life of a gasoline car in the US is 18 years. Remember this is average, so half the population goes longer. Some, much longer. The issue is whether these e-vehicles are able to power those car owners who use the second half of a gas car's life. These are people who do not put in massive capital expense. They may buy a car for $4000 to $10 000 and drive it for 100k miles. The problem for Tesla, is that it lasts for about 10 - 12 years, and then experiences total battery failure. That causes an economic end of life. So there are few or no amortized miles available on these vehicles in sharp contrast to gas cars. That is one of the pressing issues with electric vehicles, and it will have to be solved before mass adoption.
Andy your hidden cost video is so helpful, I have a better sense of cost in owning a Tesla in which I plan to buy! All the things you mentioned are really needed! I’m in California which the registration is probably going to be so expensive! I will play this video over and over again! Thank you so much for breaking it down!🌟🌟⭐️⭐️⭐️💝💝💖🔥💖
More interested over the next 3 years of the costs of spares /repair /reliability outside warranty 👌
Thanks for calling out all these different cost. But umm some of these are really “optional expenses” as in up to the owners to add.
Did you notice that MOST of the money Andy spent in the first 3 years of his Tesla ownership were either discretionary expenses (front end wrap, window tinting, installation of level 2 charging station, purchase of self driving software, radar detector) or unavoidable fees (insurance, taxes, registration, etc.) that everyone who owns any car must pay? I bought a used Model S a year and a half ago and the only expenses I have incurred other than the unavoidables were a new 12V battery and a pair of tires. The actual cost of ownership of my Tesla is MUCH lower than ANY car I have ever owned (I'm over 65 and have owned 15 cars so far). This video makes it sound like owning a Tesla is deceptively expensive -- IT IS NOT. Even with the limited range of my Tesla I will NEVER buy another obsolete internal combustion car again.
Some states give a rebate. I got $2500 from the state of California plus $500 from the local utility company besides the $7500 federal tax credit.
Can u explain the tire situation with tesla? No spare correct? I drive 120miles a day so I'll pick one up. And will it store in the trunk under the mat? And do they have some kind of slime or foam inside them? If you get tires without that will it mess with performance or road noise? TIA
Correct there is no spare. And there isn’t enough room under the mat to store one. To be fair, many cars don’t have a spare tire, been like this for over a decade. There’s no Slime in the tires. Lol
$47,000-$63,000 for a model3 right now
It looks like your total monthly cost of ownership Is approximately $80 less than the average monthly cost of an auto lease in the US. More people need to pick up on the perspective here!✌️😎
The very second you said that you were hoping to keep your car for at least 10 years, I gave you a thumbs up (even though I think you'll upgrade well within that time). I'm fed up with listening to TH-camrs saying that leasing is the only way to go. I buy all my car's and keep them for at least 5 years (currently c class 5 years, previously 3 series 7 years). I personally like seeing on my drive after 5 years that I own my cars. If my next car is electric then I expect to keep it for between 7 to 10 years. I earn good money, but would never keep swapping cars every 3 years like it's going out of fashion, that's really not the way that I operate.
Anyway, this is a great informative video, so keep them coming and stay safe during these trying times...
Holy cow the registration fees are killing you lol
RI has a car tax which is way higher than that registration fee. ugh.
@@danielroden9424 I know lol. That’s where I’m from. It’s rough up here lmao
I just ordered a Tesla Model 3 long range and am so excited to get it in November. Thanks for the breakdowns.
Get a jack and do your own tire rotations.
Or, go to Discount Tire where they will do tire rotations for free. Free coffee while you wait.
Thanks a million. It's so great to get the true facts of ownership. It looks like about the same as any other upper tier vehicle, except for the super home charger. But that is offset by no oil changes. Also, it won't need "tuning up" or "engine decarbonizing" or other IC engine crap. Hopefully, the A/C unit won't break the bank when it finally goes. Tires aren't very bad either. Overall, it looks like a pretty good deal if one can afford the upfront cost.
The sensors around the car - cameras of course, but are there non-camera sensors too? If I buy a Tesla for the Canadian climate, the roads can get very dirty. I'm always needing to clean the backup camera lens on my Subaru. Also, I'd like to be able to see behind the car even when not in reverse. I hate not having rear visibility (apparently bad in the Tesla Y), so can you keep the backup cameras on in the screen when you're not in reverse?
Excellent video, you answered a lot of questions for my girl and I. Her 2021 Tesla Model 3 will be delivered at the end of June 2021.
As for the battery cost, sandy munro did a re-calculation on the Tesla pack and he said they are at $83/kwh at the pack level today.
Great video... do you charge every night or let the battery get really low before charging? How many amps breaker does the home charge require?
Just knowing I don’t have to take my vehicle in to the stealership while the average ‘technician’ screws around while doing maintenance is half worth it alone
100% with you there.
Video title should be changed to something more along the lines of “what my Tesla has cost me so far” instead of “HIDDEN costs”. Not only is it clickbait, but it’s bar clickbait because it’s severely underrepresented in the video.
new cars result in new car costs, duh. I drove my Tesla to a wedding held 150 miles away. If I had taken my MBZ the gas alone would have cost about $34 round trip. Charged the Tesla at home (for free*), and the cost to top-off at the supercharger was... wait for it...
$6.93.
That is it in a nutshell.
Yeah it's so cheap driving. My friend who says he can so much about cars says it costs more to charge a tesla than it cost to fill up a gas car. And he is a so called 'expert'
Terrific video, Andy! Like you said at the top, every dollar (including discretionary) you’ve spent thus far. Buying any new car is not a cheap process, though there are less (and more) expensive ones than Tesla.
We’ve had our Model 3 for two months and really love it! Yesterday it was 99 degrees (F) here. We were shopping at Target, and before we checked out, I looked at the interior temp: 115 degrees! No sweat - just turned on Climate and by the time we got to the car it was a chill 72 degrees inside! Nice.
What about breaks, suspension and tires?
Your videos are fantastic! This is the second one I’ve watched. Last night I watched the 51 minute video that went over everything! Thanks to you, when my Tesla arrives in September, I will be well prepared! Thank you.
Good job Andy... Left me wanting a tiny bit more like a simple breakdown of fixed cost (charger etc.) and variable cost like consumables, taxes, yearly repair... Separated so I don't have to think too much:-)
$202 tint your windows? Was this for ceramic tinting or a mylar film, Andy? The price is so reasonable!
I would love to own a tesla but going by the 3.5 year pay off loan I can only afford to spend 10 thousand on a car. How long do you think until I can by a used one for under 10k. Thanks
I've had similar experiences with my 2018 Model 3. Last Spring, I paid $35 for a tire rotation at a Tesla Service Center, and they performed a recall that had never been done (something about updating the pins in the charging connector). it is probably not a bad idea to get to a Tesla Service Center every year or two, and ask about outstanding recalls. Thanks for all the great videos!
There was never a recall for that.
OMG! can you link the radar detector and mount? I am in much need.
I bought Tesla all weather mats, and a few accessories like a console vinyl, wireless charging pad, new hubcaps to replace the aero covers. New tires after 26k for $1100 dollars has been my only major expense. What kind of tires did you install for that cheap?
As always great video I think insurance companies have no idea what to change
Love your videos but I really don't get the point of this one. It isn't hidden costs of owning a Tesla, this is simply "costs of owning a car".
Hey there. You said $85 on your floor mats at 5:54. Do you have a link for that?
Do you have a link for the radar detector and mount?
Wondering how many owners get the glass tinted? Here in CA it’s a must.
Why would you drive over the speed limit?
@6:27 which radar detector do you have??
Thank you for all of this information, very good to know and consider when buying a Tesla. What did you mean by taxi service at the end? I couldn't make out what you were really saying.
Guessing it was some kind of buyback program? Was wondering myself
It is part of Ellon's ultimate self driving plan. Think Uber but it is your car driving itself around with a paying customer in it. This way your tesla could make you money when you are not using it.
@@mattjames8683 Ah okay! That's amazing. How long Is Elon hoping this will be happening?
I own a long range and a performance for 3 years now. I have changed cabin filter in the long range and tires on the performance. That’s it.
I like the way Mr. Slye keeps track of all expenses. I wouldn't attribute the ticket or radar detector to driving costs, but that shows he is comprehensive. Like with other expensive vehicles, you really don't have to worry about the costs of driving a Tesla. You know going in the cost per mile will be much higher than buying a used car, but you have the money and like driving a Tesla so it doesn't matter. The real issue with Teslas is charging and where you want to travel to.
Hi Andy - when I had a mobile service visit, the tech said when it's time to rotate your tires, we'll come out and do it for $50 (as you said in the video). I recently looked at the Walmart website in the tire service area, and see they only charge $2.50/wheel to rotate the tires. So, $10 for complete rotation. I have not yet needed this service, but when I do I will check Walmart to see if this is still being offered at this price. Keep up the good work.
Hey Andy, can you tell me where you get the mount for holding your Radar Detector?
Great video man! You have inspired me to start my own TH-cam channel and I keep coming back to yours for motivation and inspiration! Keep it up!
How good is the Tesla warranty on a car purchased new? Can you invest in a longer warranty?
My dad owns a model 3 2020 also, he is 65 retired, had issues with trunk lid no closing evenly, door handles replaced 3 times, power drive unit replaced once, rattling noise, yes they did not cost him a penny, still under warranty. He figured out, if he hadn't warranty, it would have costed him a whopping 11k. He is paying a much higher insurance premium compared to my mom's toyota camry. Lucky for him, the tesla is leased.
i still cannot decide if i wanna use the aero caps or not
I think this is the first ad where I was like actually that's pretty sweet my dad might actually like that
How many mile do u drive per week?
1 thing that nobody is saying on their tesla reviews is .... when you use a tesla charger how do you pay for the charge .. ? is it by contactless debit card ? or credit account or other means ?
No credit card needed. Just plug in and charge. It gets automatically charged to the credit card that’s tied to the Tesla car’s account. See here th-cam.com/video/tFdxxEhsLzI/w-d-xo.html
Is the federal tax credit still apply to teslas?
Most states are not friendly when it comes to EV. They preach everyone to go electric, but slap you with additional charges during registration and renewal. Still you cannot take delivery of Tesla in some states, you have to drive to the nearest state or Tesla will ship.
Is tyre rotation really necessary on modern tyres? I've never seen the need. As you have a long range version with awd I would expect even wear.
I have RWD
I have snow tires for each of our vehicles so I have to change (which is like rotating) many tires each year. For 40 years I have let tire stores mount and balance but I always put the wheels and tires on my vehicles. I am afraid if I let a tire shop use an air impact wrench then I will have a hard time loosening the bolts if I get a flat (I always carry a full sized spare). When I was younger I would autocross race which required I change 8 tires/wheels most Summer Saturdays. So I would never pay $50 for a tire rotation when I could do it myself in under 15 minutes.
Ready to release the hold on my 7 seater Model Y. Just waiting for that tax credit. Hope one of these bills gets passed soon.
Totally enjoy this video. Sincerity and pure facts.
Exactly what tires did you purchase from Tire Rack for $640 and did you have them drop shipped and the installation was included in the $640? Or were there other expenses with the new tires
Vredestein Quatrac shipped to me for $640 total. Local tire shop installed for free.
Very informative video but not very useful. A lot of these costs are optional and not unique to Tesla, such as the PPF and like most things you can go crazy and spend lots of money to do up a new car. What would have been helpful is a list of mandatory costs that are unique to Tesla. And looking at the video, none of it is, even the Wall Charger, you can still run a Tesla without it, and is cheaper to ‘refill’ at a Super Charger than a ICE car. Even if you consider the wall charger as a necessity, it’s not unique to Tesla and applies to all EV. As I say, not very useful. Even the silly radar detector applies to all cars if you go fast enough. Has nothing to do with acceleration, it’s the speed at the time of being clocked.
I watched a few of Andy's videos in the past that were good. The title of this video is very misleading... most of the costs listed wouldn't be much different with the purchase of any other car... The only added cost I have had with my Tesla, besides what I have done with any of my past vehicles, is the installation of a Tesla wall charger, which came out to about $1k and I ended up getting about $300 back in rebates.
Do you know how much costs Model 3 performance in Croatia ? 70.000$ !!!!! In USA it’s 45.000$
What is the robot shown at 10:44?
K, you spent thousands more on add-ons and went super picky on everything. That’s on you. I would have just tinted the windows and called it good. 🤷🏼♂️
When do you receive the tax credit?
I’m planning for Dec 2021 delivery for Tesla model Y. Can I order it now with $100 to fix the present price ?
I didn’t even look up for this video nor I wanted a Tesla before but now I do and waiting for the new Tesla
You've convinced me. I'll stick with my used $5000 Toyota, at least until something goes wrong and I replace it with another one. Even with gas and maintenance costs, total cost of ownership won't even get into 5 figures over 3 years. And then I get to buy a newer, improved Toyota. Unless I see a used EV for a similar price. So far I haven't seen that, it's more like about double the price for something with less than one third of the range.
I'm sure the resale value is great, but the example you shown was a Long Range Tesla which cost $15,000 extra brand new.
Hey Andy, I live in Louisville. Who did your window tinting?
Another great video! Thank you!
I always enjoy your content. You might want to think about making a video breaking down the cost of a similarly priced ICE car. This breakdown of your costs for your Tesla was lower than I thought it would be. Keep up the good work.
am I the only person a defective Model 3 was delivered to? Calling Tesla customer service, I was forced to listen to "use the Tesla mobile app" many times -- while the app itself was inoperative as the car was in for service and offline. Does anyone else suspect Tesla is pushing out cars beyond the paltry quality control measures that may or may not exist. Tesla repair centers are not sitting empty, waiting for unbreakable cars that might appear. So far the expense I have put into a new Model 3 far exceeds the money involved. The very FIRST time I sat in the car, the touchscreen froze up, am I to believe it was working well for any and all that drove the car from production to delivery center. J.D. Power lists Tesla as the very worst for number of defects per 100 new car deliveries -- absolute WORST.
Yep, that sounds like life with a Tesla. Wait till you are out of warranty🤣
How do you deal with the wear and tear of the seats? My 2018 M3LR at 16k miles black seats are already starting to show wear.
Did your installer for the XPEL PPF have to remove any panels, headlights, or bumpers to install it to get all of the crevices?
The problem with removing pieces is that the clips can break. Most have techniques that do not require removal and some get as close as possible since most of these kits have computer designed diagrams that cut the ppf based on the vehicle and section.
As always great work and information 👍🏼
I kept my Honda Accord 2004 for 15 years now... and see no reason to replace it still ;-)
The cost of ownership for my wife's 2004 Mercedes E320: Initial cost $55,000 (paid cash) or $3,250/year (let's make it $3,500 to include interest). She drives 10,000 miles/year. So depreciation is $0.35/mile. It averages 25 MPG. At $4.50/gal for Premium (gotta love living in California) the cost per mile for gas is $0.18/mile. I do all the maintenance and repairs (except a couple things that were under warrantee). Total spent on maintenance is $80/oil change every 8,000 miles or $0.01/mile. Corrective maintenance over the past 17 years includes replacing the fuel pump ($500), front suspension arms (squeaky permanently lubed bearings) ($2,500), Crankshaft position sensor ($106), Front wheel bearings ($500), transmission service -replace fluid and filter ($500), misc. ($500). Total corrective maintenance $4,106/170,000 miles = $0.025/mile (call it $0.03). I'm not including things like brakes, tires, windshield wipers (or even the windshield which we did have replaced) as that would be the same with a Tesla. Total cost/mile around $0.60/mile.
Now according to a Yahoo article a Tesla Model X or Y costs around $730/month or $8,760. For 10,000 miles/year that would come to a cost of $0.88/mile. Now I should point out that the Mercedes gets well over 500 miles/tank on long trips. And it takes maybe 15 minutes to 'recharge the battery (tank) to full'.
Now I do like the fact an electric doesn't need someone like me to maintain it so it would be good for my wife if I wasn't around.
How about warranty if you super charge . fast charge the battery? I bet manufacturers log this and might cost thousands to buy new packs. Why do Tesla's in Europe cost more than US pay???
I got a 13k$cad tax credit when i bought my model 3 last summer, made it almost as cheap as a honda accord lmao
You should come register your car in Cincinnati, Kentucky and Indiana are ridiculous with the registration fees! I can't wait to get a Model Y.... it is my plan to have one before the end of 2022.... I'm hoping they roll out that new battery!
Very nicely done video, thanks for this info! Seems like a decent rate for insurance - who do you use?
Hard to believe insurance is that low on an expensive high tech vehicle that would cost a lot to fix. Even with $1k deductible. Plus he puts on a lot of miles per yr.
Does Texas have tax rebate?
This is a great video thanks! Some things that would be helpful is that some of these expenses you will have regardless of the type of car. Of interest is what is going to be above an ICE car. Example Insurance tire rotations, Body shop stuff. Probably hard to quantify some of it. I did hear that you can extend your brake life and battery life doing two things. Regenerative braking should put more time between brake jobs which should save and charging battery to 70 to 80 percent unless you are going on a trip. That is said to extend battery life which will be a big expense at some point although they are getting cheaper.
So do you know what it would have cost you for a comparable ICE vehicle? Like a BMW (no comparison, but this has been suggested by others)??
how do you get that 7,500 rebate
Hi Andy,
To get better comparison, add up same cost for a petrol engine new car and then work out the real savings, think your tesla would come out front plus the pure delight of this excellent vehicle is worth something, plus the way better trade value
Each time the TM3 selling price drops by xyz dollars because of VW ID3 competition, tomorrow’s insane Toyota, etc. and poor EU sales, the existing TM3 bought at the previous high price is caught by an instant value reduction of also the same xyz dollars plus a normal vehicle depreciation, so in fact, a ton of money…Then, after 3-4 years when you finally got it right and want to get rid of the TM3, there will be less than 100 buyers for the 1000 others on sale with ageing batteries, wrong colour, etc..so…good luck!!! And don’t forget to evaluate the damage, since purchase price minus selling price divided by the miles in between equal cost of ownership per mile…and only real transaction prices are relevant and often they can be far below the advertized levels..