The price is soo high. The only reason i would rather go for a steam deck is the price. I know valve being a big company can take losses but you have to understand 1500$ is not a very consumer friendly price. It becomes a luxury at that price.
@@GummyBearRacing 700$ but not with a rdna 2 gpu. There are zero gpus in a laptop with that tech yet. So not really. Especially not at 700$ with a gddr5 memory.
This handheld is just too expensive man, I will just wait for the steam deck because I’m not paying over $1000+ for this, it’s integrated gpu isn’t even at the gt 1030 performance
It's still pretty amazing, and well, Valve already has a lot of money and I'm pretty sure they can't exactly match these specs and a buit-in Windows. It's a great alternative, albeit not cheap. I've never had a laptop of my own, but I'd have no issues using something like this for office and handheld gaming as main device even.
I have the 1185G7 version, and play PS2 via RetroArch with no issues. I run this at 1280×800 display resolution for better FPS all round. PS3 games work great too via RPCS3.
( ☆▽☆) That's *great* news, thanks for the info! Oh, also, just out of curiosity: does it have a gyroscope? Just to know if playing _Gran Turismo 4_ like if it is a steering wheel is possible or if I'm better waiting 'til I'm home to plug it to a big screen and use a proper wheel instead.
@@warlock5309 1185 vs. 1195 is very minimal difference, maybe 5% increase in performance (FPS). It's more of s upgrade going from 1165 to 1195. It's not worth an upgrade in my situation. You can compare both online side by side.
@@bmwofboganville456 I run at 800p, it looks great even still with very minor pixel at close range. No need for me to run at 1600p and didn't know it was buggy before.
Sorry, but while the specs are good (would have preferred AMD+Linux like the Steam Deck though), the price is utterly insane for UK users at least: £1,149 (almost $1,600). This is over 3 times the price I'll be paying for the Steam Deck, so this will be a very niche, low-selling product IMHO. About the only thing this had that I wish the Steam Deck had was a fingerprint reader. Also, the screen res at 2560x1600 is typically what you see on 10" tablets with large batteries - I think thay should have used a 1080p 8.4" screen myself, which would have been easier to drive a native res and use less battery.
I got the middle spec and it cost around 750 GBP from memory. Not sure I'll bother with the Steam Deck, it will be hard to go back to the smaller screen size.
I thought steam was right on the money with just about everything except for not including thunderbolt honestly but Idk about the bigger screen because then it would need a bigger battery and then bigger fan and so on.
I kept thinking "wow, this actually looks MUCH better than the Steam Deck!"... Well for $1000 more it should be! Pretty sweet device, but I'm not sure it's worth THAT much more.
For this model, definitely not, but cheaper one like 1135g7 vs 1165g7...maybe. The gpu on paper, they are similar at 1.6TF. You can upgrade ssd on this one unlike steamdeck kinda limited due to they use smaller and harder to find ssd. Better screen on this one, thunderbolt 4 is also cool gimmick if you planned on getting accessories. But still, for handheld, just pick steamdeck,
Feel horrible for all these new handhelds being released. Literally every single time we see new ones it's always "yeah that's great but I'll wait for deck cos your price is god awful" valve has monopolised the handheld pc market and yet the deck could be horrible but by then it's too late
Yeah I feel you. Honestly I don't like the design of the deck. It can be a great machine but i'm not going to buy something that doesn't fit my taste juste because it's less expensive. I think thoses machine will survive in their own niches.
Valves intentions are to bring attention to the idea of switch like pc gaming and it's been done at a massive loss. Lossy but a successful in intentions.
Valves always tried to make PC gaming mainstream the steam controller for the steam machines failed the steam link was somewhat successful and now they are making an effort for everyone to be able to have a base level experience that's affordable. This will help quite a bit with making the market more accessable and less of a niche. And also I would never pay 800 or higher for a handheld just because it's a unique hand-held design. The biggest problem I've seen with these machines is that they don't have the hardware to fully take advantage of their features. What's the difference between me literally having a PC at home and using steam link or splashtop or moonlight.
@@spawnkiller9779 Id rather install and play the games directly from the machine then have latency from streaming from my PC or have to worry about getting disconnected while I'm playing
Back in the days of DOS Gaming the Turbo button was meant to make the computer run at half speed so you could play games that relied on the clock such as SCUMM games...
Nice and all, but for $1500 my personal choice would be desktop that I can get scalability out of.. still if I did NEED a handheld, I would be torn between steams offering and this for sure. The prospect of handheld D2R puts a grin on face!
I wouldn’t partially agree with you, first ,people buy $1500 iPhone , or something like it , what kind of scalability you get out of it , second , for example I would like to real time 3d scan with Xbox360 Kinect with Skanect software , and when I move a Kinect around object I have to look at monitor , but if I had handheld pc like this attached to Kinect at rear , it would be awesome , all I have to do is power it up , and that’s not a problem as kinect has long cables , of course price is high for a device to use just for scanning , but according to professional real-time scanning devices that costs $10000+ , its a penny
what 1500 bro?? the site he linked shows me €1009.91 euro (1191.78 usd) Yes I know that's still expensive but I'm just wondering why it's showing you $1500 lol...
Facts been playing indie games on the system. Just waiting on the more powerful chips later this year to buy that one to play higher end AAA games Also what indie games have u been playing
@@Meinnameful Depending on the game, yes you can choose different resolutions. When I was playing Ender Lilies, I think I switched mine to 800p coz the higher resolutions appears too small.
4:33 wow that score. AMD latest DESKTOP Ryzen 7 5700G 65W APU barely hit 4000 score. AMD need to innovate their APU line not reuse VEGA over and over again for few generation
Yeah, it blows 5700g in GPU intensive benchmarks, but if you look at actuall games for example GTA V, Vega gets average of 86 fps in 1080p while Intel Iris Xe from ONEXPLAYER only gets average of 74 fps in 720p.
@@Adaminkton Yea but still overall GPU much more important when it come to gaming before CPU power. Look The Witcher 3 result. It blow me away seeing handle iGPU device able to run that resolution, at that setting and get above 50fps
I think this will have the advantage, not only can it run any windows software it will also have all of the hardware. It does not seem the deck will be able to use the Razer orbweaver
@@michaelgoff6481 , Steam Deck can run Windows. Also the ONEX Player 1S is a lot more expensive, probably will thermal throttle a lot, probably be very loud, and the battery life is likely to be crap. It's also hard to make a quality mobile device so long-term reliability could be questionable; Valve is far more likely to pull that off. The 1S has a much, much higher resolution but that's going to factor into battery life (depending on battery capacity). Raw specs are cool, but you've got to nail everything. I'm NOT saying this product is crap. I suspect Steam Deck will push most of the competition out of the market (It's not competing with Nintendo though).
So I was watching this video to satisfy my steam deck craving. And I noticed that for your overwatch test you killed someone named DeadlyFeet. I couldn't believe my eyes. I'm DeadlyFeet. I've never ever been in a youtube video ever. It was the pre fight skirmish and I died right away and then loaded into a game right after but still! There I am!
Only thing Valve has going for it is the ddr5 ram and rdna2 gpu but even then, the iris xe 96eu has the same 1.6tflop fp32 performance at 1400mhz. The display alone is league ahead as well.
@@FuIIDiveVR So you admitted it! Deck has better ram and better APU for $1000 less than this thing. And better battery life. So better performance, better battery…dedicated SteamOS…etc. JT was right, this is impossible to justify. Maybe you already bought one so you have no choice but to ride it but nah…the rest of us ain’t blind to the obvious. Steam Deck is literally being sold at a loss, there is no way for others to compete, fam.
@@jublacabra Different use cases for each device. The egpu, 1600p display, Wifi 6, and m.2 2280 are enough for me personally to justify the price. I am not trying to care about budget but rather specific features and this device has all I need.
@@FuIIDiveVR and I respect your opinion. Just a reminder though, Valve is actually supposed to be selling the decks for close to $1000 because that's the value of the internals. However, since Valve is a software company, they can sell the hardware at a loss and make the money back in game sales. No other company than Nintendo can even kinda compete. This device is priced closer to a Switch Pro with the capabilities of a $1000 handheld computer. Not saying you should get it, I'm just telling you that...economically and objectively there's little to no real competition.
What application are you using for your motion wallpapers and screensavers? They look incredible. Fantastic video. I actually just ordered the AMD 5800U 8.4” OXP
I think people are wrongly assuming steam desk os will be compatible with all steam store games this is not the case even the devs of the os have stated this again this week.
I have one too it’s not as great as the desktop PC that has the 3090 graphics card still waiting to see how the Steam Deck plays I’m sure it’s not as great as my desktop if it plays close I’ll be very happy I fo know it will beat the Nintendo Switch
Great video, ETA! Where is that eGPU video, though? I'm curious as to whether the emulation can be upgraded significantly with an eGPU without going into turbo mode (especially PS2/PS3)...
My 1165 firestrike score is actually higher. It's currently #1 for the 1165 didn't really do anything special but so far not impressed with 1195 honestly.
I like it. The price is a bit much, but it's got a bigger screen than most mini tablets and a beefy PC class CPU! While not as practical as a laptop, it probably could be a good computer for a college student.
The onexplayer with the 1165 is struggling with higher TDPs. So whats the point to put a even more demanding CPU in a bad thermal design? Or did onenet think they should release a hand warmer for the comming cold winter days? 100C while gaming should get that job done.
@@Patrick73787 Yeah you are right. Thats great for the GPD WIN MAX 2021 with the 1195g7. Onexplayer has big problems with high TDPs, but WIN MAX can handle high TDPs pretty good for a device that is even smaller than the onexplayer.
That is one thing I have always liked about the ONEX series, dual thunderbolt/USB4 ports. THOUGH, if it's basically thermal throttling down to 1165G7 specs then not really worth it. Can you compare them to see how bad that throttling is?
@@rassular sure its about preference but you are literally paying more than twice for a screen that is going to drain the battery (intel cpus are not good with battery life) sure a better Cpu but its a mobile version and working at a low tdp so the cpu will not be able to extend its legs at all. I'll give you storage and wifi but again that price is a lot.
Here in Australia it's USD price ($1660) converts to over $2250, if you spent like $400 more you could get an INFINITY W5 Gaming laptop with a 2070s, 10th gen cpu, 16gb ram, 500gb ssd with a 1080p 240hz display. That is absolutely ridiculous hahahahaha Steam is going to destroy this market..
The price makes me appreciate the Steam Deck even more. Holy shit Valve had to lose out on alot of profit to essentially give us a handheld midtier pc for less than $1000
700 bucks? Why not get a Switch and a Mini PC? You can do more than just game with that setup I think. Or a pre-owned S10, controller, and just run on cloud computing like Vortex or something.
I bought one of those systems still have it. but I must warn everyone who buys one of these it does not have the proper thermal pads nor does it have an adequate thermal paste it will reach temperatures of 198°F on startup or at least mine did before I changed everything on it. also it cannot handle simple games like a hat in time or Spyro the dragon the reunited trilogy.
Something must be wrong with yours because there is NO WAY that it can't run A Hat in Time or Spyro Reignited when it clearly runs Witcher 3, Forza Horizon 4, and Doom Eternal at over 60FPS, all of which are more demanding. Though personally, I would still go with the Steam Deck or another AMD based handheld if I wanted one.
How are you playing Doom Eternal without fps tanking? Doom Eternal is not playable in its current updatedversion, on Intel 9805 or 9864 driver or the beta drivers, without the fps dropping to 4-5fps from 45-50fps. I'm speaking from experience playing on my own 1165G7 ONEX PLAYER.
I hope this and the Steam Deck will be more successful in the long run. I don't know which company made the ONEXPLAYER 1S, but I hope this will give Valve a competition worth fighting for.
The 1195 is not enough of an upgrade from the 1165. It just seems like it because Intel is dropping some of the most compelling driver updates over the last month. Even with this last update, i have not once used turbo on my 1165 and all emulation is upscaled to crispness and running at 60fps. Its insane. Again... No turbo and getting 4 hours battery life. And this is on an 1165.
@@mightythistle Yep. There are not enough advantages with the 1195g7 for it to be a worthy upgrade. The gpu is pretty much the same with only a slight increase in mhz. If you already own the 1165, stay still till they offer a build with a discrete gpu in it. Like the nvidia mx450 or the mobile rtx2080 max-q. One netbook screwed over the 1165 owners by offering the 1195 before their shipments even arrived- and at the exact same pricepoint. That was their core audience too. They dont even offer motherboard upgrades like GPD does.
Just ordered one, the switch is great but the games are way to much £££ to play on the go, when I already have the same games in my steam library. I’m confident that playing nearly everything 720p/800p will at least hit 30fps , and that for a portable laptop powered hand held is amazing. It could even be my main PC if I dock it to the razer chroma egpu. Much more practical than a gaming laptop on the go for travel or hotel stays.
this device quality control sucks. First one I purchased left analog button and left shoulder button became faulty. Sent back to amazon and had a replacement sent. Within 48 hours this device had 4 buttons that sticking, downloaded new firmware and still didn't fix the issue. I would stay far away from this device.
A hour of gaming 😂 and it's $1400!? What was they thinking building this handheld like this. If you buy this your just wasn't money at this point that money can go to the family in new Orleans. Great review by the way Prime steam deck looking great right now in my opinion.
Dude people buy apples shit iphones and this is more power than that but the gpd win 3 is cheap and long in battery life. but that will be like comparing apples(pun intended) and oranges.
@@justaguyonyoutube1937 he's comparing the cost you dip💩 Apple is an outrageously overpriced phone that never changes. Every new model that comes out is no different from the current version except the price but ppl still purchase the phone.
Cant wait for the steam deck I couldn’t see myself paying $1000 plus for a handheld pc which is more of something to tinker with for me but I preordered the middle model 256gb $500 is enough. I think it’s fun just trying to get things to run at a good framerate, stuff you thought you could never play on a handheld. I can’t believe they got the witcher 3 to run on the switch or the outer worlds but it came at a cost it’s like rubbing vaseline in your eyes but it’s still impressive.
Yeah save your money. Some games like Last Epoch resolution/display looks so bad. I tried all resolution mode but still looked bad. I had refund the game.
@@somrai2746 i have the last epoch on steam fun game. Im just disappointed the steam deck got delayed. I went ahead and bought a switch oled last week and man I’m glad I did that screen looks so much better than my original model. Plus I’ve had mine since day one and my battery not what it used to be so I really noticed the extended battery live. I kinda wish in would’ve gotten the base model steam deck just because it would’ve been easy to put in an nvme ssd myself.
Please do egpu tests, and specifically, driving the internal display instead of an external monitor. A lot of people ask about driving the internal screen on these smaller devices , to as there is conflicting info about whether it works. No reviewers have shown it in action (besides low spec gamer, who only showed the assassin's Creed benchmark running, nothing else).
It is not the CPU, but the GPU that limits the Graphics/FPS for modern PC Titles. Thats why the Steamdeck is so good, it has the "Next-Gen" Mobile GPU RDNA2 inside the APU. Inside the shown Handheld is just a normal Intel Laptop APU. It's the same rubbish GPU. The only way currently to get better GPU Performance is a dedicated GPU Card.
like always very informative vido , i always follow ur videos/tutorials, can u plz help me, i have onexplayer 5700 AMD Ryzen 7 , how can i oncrease its VRAM, i mean there is no option in its bios, so how to increase its GPU RAM. once again thank u
It sure is nice but not 1000+$ nice (~1420$), for that shitty price you can buy a big laptop with everything bigger, more material, added Nvidia GPU on top of a CPU with even more cores and so on... I know it's not the same thing but the point on all of those random portable PC gaming consoles is the less expensive material they get the pricier they seem to be FFS... It's like hey do you see our 1000€ device with 1KG of pure copper just for cooling? And the 2nd goes hey and you see our 500gr of copper cooling device it cost 1500€ because size matters and the less material we use we increase the price and the suckers will buy it :)
I mean it's nice to have if money ain't a problem🤷♂️ but for me $1400 would give me a nice gaming laptop,1tb ssd,mouse,mousepad and laptop backpack 😂not forgetting a Sn30 pro controller 😁
Thanks for putting this one up ETA. I'm really keen for intel to wow us with a new set of drivers when their DG2 drops next year. I think the Tiger Lake SoC absolutely slaps but is being held back by inefficient drivers. its already a super capable chip but i really think there is more to be had, seeing Fortza up around 60/Med is a good sign.
Is it ok to use onexplayer 1s without battery? Is it safe to use it that way? I just removed my battery coz its bloated and starts to push the screen from the body. Im hesitant to use it without battery. TIA
Mine is i7 1165g7 it run forza4 perfectly and I tried battlefield 1 but still can’t play black ops Cold War I will try custom tdp , I don’t care about emulation I am looking for multiplayer , if you tried black ops let it out so we know what to do, thank you for your videos.
May I ask whom this is for? A $1200 handheld pc that plays games. People, just get a Laptop easier and has a keyboard. This is really strange to me to see things like this and then to be asked if I have any questions or what i'd like to see. Are you kidding? On a 1200 dollar thing like that? I could get a decent car for that and it would take me to work. That will just sit on a desk and get hot.
Expensive devices from China means the device is using quality components and it also means ( And Most importantly ) we are in the middle of a chip shortage. Devices that i paid 1200 for last year are now being sold for nearly 2k today. Its getting scary.
Halo Infinite not working with the Intel i7 1195G7 Intel Iris built in graphics at the moment. :( I hope they get it to work. I might return it for the AMD version as that one works just fine.
the 399 dollar steam deck is a better value than this. i mean this handheld is great as far as specs and it also looks incredible but i think when it comes to more bang for your buck the steam deck is superior. now if im being honest, had this not came out so close to the release of the steam deck, it might have had people thinking twice about purchasing the steam deck. for me, just my opinion, but i think this handheld is a bit over priced, again like i said for the price of the base steam deck when compared to the price of this, i cant justify spending over 1000 dollars for a handheld when for that price i can buy an actual desktop or laptop.
Id gladly (save up) to buy one but not without cell phone support, why carry a super portible computer AND a cell phone that's dum I'll wait till next year when they add phone support
It's cool but at 1400 dollars I'll keep my steamdeck reservation
Yep yep. U said it.
Bet you that the steam deck is vastly more powerful
GPU wise, yes but not the CPU at an even 4 core and 8 threads Tigerlake will beat it. Not heads and tails, but a noticeable amount.
@@emerson-biggons7078 it isn't gpu might be but cpu isnt
@@_GarethRossUK what? Not that I'm disagreeing I just have no idea what you just said
The price is soo high. The only reason i would rather go for a steam deck is the price. I know valve being a big company can take losses but you have to understand 1500$ is not a very consumer friendly price. It becomes a luxury at that price.
Laptops with similar cpus are like $700 and have better cooling. These hand held computers just don't have the price to performance yet.
@@GummyBearRacing 700$ but not with a rdna 2 gpu. There are zero gpus in a laptop with that tech yet. So not really. Especially not at 700$ with a gddr5 memory.
@@prabalvasudev6967 he talkin about the 1500$ handhelds
You can actually buy this right now so it has that going for it.
And a Chinese handheld is anything but luxury
This handheld is just too expensive man, I will just wait for the steam deck because I’m not paying over $1000+ for this, it’s integrated gpu isn’t even at the gt 1030 performance
@@Sherfps Steam Deck APU will be equivalent to a 1060
$A2000……..ouch
@@Sherfps gtx 750ti is not close to 1050. gtx 1050=gtx 770
@@collinsgichuhi8255 where did you get that from? lol
It's still pretty amazing, and well, Valve already has a lot of money and I'm pretty sure they can't exactly match these specs and a buit-in Windows. It's a great alternative, albeit not cheap.
I've never had a laptop of my own, but I'd have no issues using something like this for office and handheld gaming as main device even.
Yes, would be great a clip with EGpu and External Monitor.
I have the 1185G7 version, and play PS2 via RetroArch with no issues. I run this at 1280×800 display resolution for better FPS all round. PS3 games work great too via RPCS3.
( ☆▽☆) That's *great* news, thanks for the info!
Oh, also, just out of curiosity: does it have a gyroscope? Just to know if playing _Gran Turismo 4_ like if it is a steering wheel is possible or if I'm better waiting 'til I'm home to plug it to a big screen and use a proper wheel instead.
Hey @combo, whats the difference between both versions?
You can run at full 1600p now, the new Intel drivers have fixed the downscaling
@@warlock5309 1185 vs. 1195 is very minimal difference, maybe 5% increase in performance (FPS). It's more of s upgrade going from 1165 to 1195. It's not worth an upgrade in my situation. You can compare both online side by side.
@@bmwofboganville456 I run at 800p, it looks great even still with very minor pixel at close range. No need for me to run at 1600p and didn't know it was buggy before.
Sorry, but while the specs are good (would have preferred AMD+Linux like the Steam Deck though), the price is utterly insane for UK users at least: £1,149 (almost $1,600). This is over 3 times the price I'll be paying for the Steam Deck, so this will be a very niche, low-selling product IMHO. About the only thing this had that I wish the Steam Deck had was a fingerprint reader. Also, the screen res at 2560x1600 is typically what you see on 10" tablets with large batteries - I think thay should have used a 1080p 8.4" screen myself, which would have been easier to drive a native res and use less battery.
Agreed. There's no need for that pixel density. I have a 1920 x 1200 10.1" tablet and it looks fine.
This thing has a higher resolution than my gaming set up, 2560x1600 is ridiculous for something so small.
I got the middle spec and it cost around 750 GBP from memory. Not sure I'll bother with the Steam Deck, it will be hard to go back to the smaller screen size.
I thought steam was right on the money with just about everything except for not including thunderbolt honestly but Idk about the bigger screen because then it would need a bigger battery and then bigger fan and so on.
It's better than my desktop lol but I'm not willing to pay $1,400 for it Nintendo Switch for the win!
Switch lmao
That’s what I hate about these “handheld PCs” marketing these days, sure they deliver amazing performance. But c’mon, over $1400??
Holy moly! This handheld blows my computer specs away!
Imagine having a computer, *pffft* , wouldn't be me... Hahaha... Haha... Ha... :(
And kill my Celeron 1007u Laptop
Even my GeForce Mx150 is humiliated by that, amazing
And it's 2x more expensive than a Ryzen 5 with GTX 1660 laptop
@@ultra-cat doing gods work
I kept thinking "wow, this actually looks MUCH better than the Steam Deck!"... Well for $1000 more it should be! Pretty sweet device, but I'm not sure it's worth THAT much more.
For this model, definitely not, but cheaper one like 1135g7 vs 1165g7...maybe. The gpu on paper, they are similar at 1.6TF. You can upgrade ssd on this one unlike steamdeck kinda limited due to they use smaller and harder to find ssd. Better screen on this one, thunderbolt 4 is also cool gimmick if you planned on getting accessories. But still, for handheld, just pick steamdeck,
Valve is selling the deck at a loss iirc
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@@BlackApathyy RDNA2 > intels xe with bad drivers
Feel horrible for all these new handhelds being released.
Literally every single time we see new ones it's always "yeah that's great but I'll wait for deck cos your price is god awful"
valve has monopolised the handheld pc market and yet the deck could be horrible but by then it's too late
Yeah I feel you. Honestly I don't like the design of the deck. It can be a great machine but i'm not going to buy something that doesn't fit my taste juste because it's less expensive. I think thoses machine will survive in their own niches.
Valves intentions are to bring attention to the idea of switch like pc gaming and it's been done at a massive loss. Lossy but a successful in intentions.
Valves always tried to make PC gaming mainstream the steam controller for the steam machines failed the steam link was somewhat successful and now they are making an effort for everyone to be able to have a base level experience that's affordable. This will help quite a bit with making the market more accessable and less of a niche. And also I would never pay 800 or higher for a handheld just because it's a unique hand-held design. The biggest problem I've seen with these machines is that they don't have the hardware to fully take advantage of their features. What's the difference between me literally having a PC at home and using steam link or splashtop or moonlight.
I'd wait until AMD's RDNA APUs before making that bold claim. Steam Deck won't be the only handheld packing DDR5 and RDNA around when it comes out.
@@spawnkiller9779 Id rather install and play the games directly from the machine then have latency from streaming from my PC or have to worry about getting disconnected while I'm playing
Back in the days of DOS Gaming the Turbo button was meant to make the computer run at half speed so you could play games that relied on the clock such as SCUMM games...
Why are people shocked at the price tag? lol
Because the steam deck is 400
The question will be the cost. No one can currently compete against the Steam Deck when it comes to the price-performance ratio.
Yea steam deck slays when it comes to cost.
Nice and all, but for $1500 my personal choice would be desktop that I can get scalability out of.. still if I did NEED a handheld, I would be torn between steams offering and this for sure. The prospect of handheld D2R puts a grin on face!
The price point makes this completely not worth it at all. You can build an itx console build for that amount of money.
The Switch OLED might be a good system for D2R with it's inky blacks. Well, only if the performance holds up. It's already a bit paired back as it is.
I wouldn’t partially agree with you, first ,people buy $1500 iPhone , or something like it , what kind of scalability you get out of it , second , for example I would like to real time 3d scan with Xbox360 Kinect with Skanect software , and when I move a Kinect around object I have to look at monitor , but if I had handheld pc like this attached to Kinect at rear , it would be awesome , all I have to do is power it up , and that’s not a problem as kinect has long cables , of course price is high for a device to use just for scanning , but according to professional real-time scanning devices that costs $10000+ , its a penny
Yeah wtf for that much build a real PC, then just get a controller for your phone and remote into it with Parsec.
what 1500 bro?? the site he linked shows me €1009.91 euro (1191.78 usd) Yes I know that's still expensive but I'm just wondering why it's showing you $1500 lol...
I have the 1165G7 version and I really like the form factor & big screen of the ONEXPLAYER. It's perfect for playing indie games on Steam. 😁
Facts been playing indie games on the system.
Just waiting on the more powerful chips later this year to buy that one to play higher end AAA games
Also what indie games have u been playing
@@BigNate3x3 Ender Lilies & Hollow Knight. For AAA games, I play on my main PC rig that has a Ryzen 5950X CPU & RTX 3090 GPU. 😁
Can you choose any resolution?
I have the Gpd win3 and can only choose between 600p or 720p.
@@Meinnameful Depending on the game, yes you can choose different resolutions. When I was playing Ender Lilies, I think I switched mine to 800p coz the higher resolutions appears too small.
@@xellaz okay, thanks.
4:33 wow that score. AMD latest DESKTOP Ryzen 7 5700G 65W APU barely hit 4000 score. AMD need to innovate their APU line not reuse VEGA over and over again for few generation
Yeah, it blows 5700g in GPU intensive benchmarks, but if you look at actuall games for example GTA V, Vega gets average of 86 fps in 1080p while Intel Iris Xe from ONEXPLAYER only gets average of 74 fps in 720p.
@@Adaminkton Yea but still overall GPU much more important when it come to gaming before CPU power. Look The Witcher 3 result. It blow me away seeing handle iGPU device able to run that resolution, at that setting and get above 50fps
Intel iris seems to be really good and a competitor for other integrated graphics
Curious how the steam deck will compare when it's out.
I think this will have the advantage, not only can it run any windows software it will also have all of the hardware. It does not seem the deck will be able to use the Razer orbweaver
@@michaelgoff6481 ,
Steam Deck can run Windows.
Also the ONEX Player 1S is a lot more expensive, probably will thermal throttle a lot, probably be very loud, and the battery life is likely to be crap. It's also hard to make a quality mobile device so long-term reliability could be questionable; Valve is far more likely to pull that off. The 1S has a much, much higher resolution but that's going to factor into battery life (depending on battery capacity).
Raw specs are cool, but you've got to nail everything. I'm NOT saying this product is crap.
I suspect Steam Deck will push most of the competition out of the market (It's not competing with Nintendo though).
@@michaelgoff6481 steam deck can run windows
The Zen 2 (4C/8T) will be a little weaker the RDNA 2 (8 CU's) a little stronger.
@@michaelgoff6481 Steam deck can run windows too.
So I was watching this video to satisfy my steam deck craving. And I noticed that for your overwatch test you killed someone named DeadlyFeet. I couldn't believe my eyes. I'm DeadlyFeet. I've never ever been in a youtube video ever. It was the pre fight skirmish and I died right away and then loaded into a game right after but still! There I am!
A shame you got pooped on by a guy making a tutorial on an overpriced handheld.
Price is impossible to justify when you can get a steam deck at less than half the cost
You can nearly buy 4 steam decks for the price of this.
Only thing Valve has going for it is the ddr5 ram and rdna2 gpu but even then, the iris xe 96eu has the same 1.6tflop fp32 performance at 1400mhz. The display alone is league ahead as well.
@@FuIIDiveVR So you admitted it! Deck has better ram and better APU for $1000 less than this thing. And better battery life. So better performance, better battery…dedicated SteamOS…etc. JT was right, this is impossible to justify. Maybe you already bought one so you have no choice but to ride it but nah…the rest of us ain’t blind to the obvious.
Steam Deck is literally being sold at a loss, there is no way for others to compete, fam.
@@jublacabra Different use cases for each device. The egpu, 1600p display, Wifi 6, and m.2 2280 are enough for me personally to justify the price. I am not trying to care about budget but rather specific features and this device has all I need.
@@FuIIDiveVR and I respect your opinion. Just a reminder though, Valve is actually supposed to be selling the decks for close to $1000 because that's the value of the internals. However, since Valve is a software company, they can sell the hardware at a loss and make the money back in game sales. No other company than Nintendo can even kinda compete.
This device is priced closer to a Switch Pro with the capabilities of a $1000 handheld computer.
Not saying you should get it, I'm just telling you that...economically and objectively there's little to no real competition.
What application are you using for your motion wallpapers and screensavers? They look incredible. Fantastic video. I actually just ordered the AMD 5800U 8.4” OXP
You should do some head to head comparisons with a Ryzen based system.
1500? Super hard pass
EGPU is always something I love seeing. Please do it.
I think people are wrongly assuming steam desk os will be compatible with all steam store games this is not the case even the devs of the os have stated this again this week.
It's an Intel 4 core though. Still not bad
Do you like another better?
I have one too it’s not as great as the desktop PC that has the 3090 graphics card still waiting to see how the Steam Deck plays I’m sure it’s not as great as my desktop if it plays close I’ll be very happy I fo know it will beat the Nintendo Switch
I'm amazed this thing doesn't bloody melt! O.=.O
Can anyone tell me where to get the cool 80’s moving desktop theme?
Great video, ETA!
Where is that eGPU video, though? I'm curious as to whether the emulation can be upgraded significantly with an eGPU without going into turbo mode (especially PS2/PS3)...
My 1165 firestrike score is actually higher. It's currently #1 for the 1165 didn't really do anything special but so far not impressed with 1195 honestly.
And tbh, you shouldnt be. There isnt much diiference aside from a higher turbo boost frequency.
probably running in a colder room than everyone else
@@sinephase 76f ;)
@@loktar00 dabu
@@sinephase haha It's getting rarer and rarer that people say that to me WC2 is probably my all time fav game :).
Was turbo mode on while playing cyberpunk?
Steam Deck KILLERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
This thing is soo cool but it's soo dammed expensive! Hopefully Steam deck can compete when it comes out.
I like it. The price is a bit much, but it's got a bigger screen than most mini tablets and a beefy PC class CPU!
While not as practical as a laptop, it probably could be a good computer for a college student.
Where to get that first animated wallpaper, please?
I want that background. How can I do that?
The onexplayer with the 1165 is struggling with higher TDPs. So whats the point to put a even more demanding CPU in a bad thermal design? Or did onenet think they should release a hand warmer for the comming cold winter days? 100C while gaming should get that job done.
This is a higher binned version, which means it requires less power for better performance.
@@Patrick73787 Yeah you are right. Thats great for the GPD WIN MAX 2021 with the 1195g7. Onexplayer has big problems with high TDPs, but WIN MAX can handle high TDPs pretty good for a device that is even smaller than the onexplayer.
watching this on my GPD Win 3.
That is one thing I have always liked about the ONEX series, dual thunderbolt/USB4 ports. THOUGH, if it's basically thermal throttling down to 1165G7 specs then not really worth it. Can you compare them to see how bad that throttling is?
So basically valve is offering a better gpu and memory bandwidth. For 40% of the price. Wow.
Also better screen, better cpu, wifi 6, 1tb of storage, excellent kickstand, etc on the onexplayer. It's about preference lol
@@rassular sure its about preference but you are literally paying more than twice for a screen that is going to drain the battery (intel cpus are not good with battery life) sure a better Cpu but its a mobile version and working at a low tdp so the cpu will not be able to extend its legs at all. I'll give you storage and wifi but again that price is a lot.
What a beast of a Handheld!
Awesome potential for "new generation" retro gaming emulation.
Here in Australia it's USD price ($1660) converts to over $2250, if you spent like $400 more you could get an INFINITY W5 Gaming laptop with a 2070s, 10th gen cpu, 16gb ram, 500gb ssd with a 1080p 240hz display. That is absolutely ridiculous hahahahaha Steam is going to destroy this market..
Apply liquid metal
GPD win 3 ❤
how much does it cost tho?
Buy this and go to school while carrying this and your friend be like :
*OUR DEVICE*
Could you hack it and put a Pi inside?
Why on Earth would you do that? Like buying a Ferrari and putting a moped engine in it...
The price makes me appreciate the Steam Deck even more. Holy shit Valve had to lose out on alot of profit to essentially give us a handheld midtier pc for less than $1000
Less than even 500$
I would cry if I can own these for half the price
Wait for the Steam Deck :)
700 bucks?
Why not get a Switch and a Mini PC?
You can do more than just game with that setup I think.
Or a pre-owned S10, controller, and just run on cloud computing like Vortex or something.
@@RR-ho3td switch is so closed and limited
@@RR-ho3td I have a Switch and Custom PC
I want "Switch/PSP" PC for Steam, music, emulation, files, and wifi web browsing
@Steven Turner I just have to wait for Steam Deck Dock release and preview
It's likely the closest I get
please tell me where you got that walllpaper ? i love it !!!!
Ya I came to the comments hoping to find a link to the sweet live vapor wallpaper!
I bought one of those systems still have it. but I must warn everyone who buys one of these it does not have the proper thermal pads nor does it have an adequate thermal paste it will reach temperatures of 198°F on startup or at least mine did before I changed everything on it. also it cannot handle simple games like a hat in time or Spyro the dragon the reunited trilogy.
Something must be wrong with yours because there is NO WAY that it can't run A Hat in Time or Spyro Reignited when it clearly runs Witcher 3, Forza Horizon 4, and Doom Eternal at over 60FPS, all of which are more demanding. Though personally, I would still go with the Steam Deck or another AMD based handheld if I wanted one.
I have it
How are you playing Doom Eternal without fps tanking? Doom Eternal is not playable in its current updatedversion, on Intel 9805 or 9864 driver or the beta drivers, without the fps dropping to 4-5fps from 45-50fps. I'm speaking from experience playing on my own 1165G7 ONEX PLAYER.
That Intel iris chip is pretty amazing, so they can actually produce a good apu?intel!!!!,hope to see this in market
The chips that is
I hope this and the Steam Deck will be more successful in the long run. I don't know which company made the ONEXPLAYER 1S, but I hope this will give Valve a competition worth fighting for.
The 1195 is not enough of an upgrade from the 1165. It just seems like it because Intel is dropping some of the most compelling driver updates over the last month. Even with this last update, i have not once used turbo on my 1165 and all emulation is upscaled to crispness and running at 60fps. Its insane. Again... No turbo and getting 4 hours battery life. And this is on an 1165.
Hmm 🤔 you think the 65 is worth it over this then ?
@@mightythistle Yep. There are not enough advantages with the 1195g7 for it to be a worthy upgrade. The gpu is pretty much the same with only a slight increase in mhz. If you already own the 1165, stay still till they offer a build with a discrete gpu in it. Like the nvidia mx450 or the mobile rtx2080 max-q. One netbook screwed over the 1165 owners by offering the 1195 before their shipments even arrived- and at the exact same pricepoint. That was their core audience too. They dont even offer motherboard upgrades like GPD does.
Definitely want to see the egpu! And the thermal paste!
Just ordered one, the switch is great but the games are way to much £££ to play on the go, when I already have the same games in my steam library. I’m confident that playing nearly everything 720p/800p will at least hit 30fps , and that for a portable laptop powered hand held is amazing. It could even be my main PC if I dock it to the razer chroma egpu. Much more practical than a gaming laptop on the go for travel or hotel stays.
If I was rich I'd buy it.
this device quality control sucks. First one I purchased left analog button and left shoulder button became faulty. Sent back to amazon and had a replacement sent. Within 48 hours this device had 4 buttons that sticking, downloaded new firmware and still didn't fix the issue. I would stay far away from this device.
Could you make a little fps comparison with the 1165g7 version?
yea we need to know what real world results are. people speculated 2-3 fps but im worried it might be a lot more different.
A hour of gaming 😂 and it's $1400!? What was they thinking building this handheld like this. If you buy this your just wasn't money at this point that money can go to the family in new Orleans. Great review by the way Prime steam deck looking great right now in my opinion.
Dude people buy apples shit iphones and this is more power than that but the gpd win 3 is cheap and long in battery life. but that will be like comparing apples(pun intended) and oranges.
@@shlokshah5379 You lost me. Did you just compare a phone to a handheld PC!?
I'm not saying it's worth the money but just bring a portable charger and it will last literally all day long
@@shlokshah5379 thank u
@@justaguyonyoutube1937 he's comparing the cost you dip💩 Apple is an outrageously overpriced phone that never changes. Every new model that comes out is no different from the current version except the price but ppl still purchase the phone.
Cant wait for the steam deck I couldn’t see myself paying $1000 plus for a handheld pc which is more of something to tinker with for me but I preordered the middle model 256gb $500 is enough. I think it’s fun just trying to get things to run at a good framerate, stuff you thought you could never play on a handheld. I can’t believe they got the witcher 3 to run on the switch or the outer worlds but it came at a cost it’s like rubbing vaseline in your eyes but it’s still impressive.
Yeah save your money. Some games like Last Epoch resolution/display looks so bad. I tried all resolution mode but still looked bad. I had refund the game.
@@somrai2746 i have the last epoch on steam fun game. Im just disappointed the steam deck got delayed. I went ahead and bought a switch oled last week and man I’m glad I did that screen looks so much better than my original model. Plus I’ve had mine since day one and my battery not what it used to be so I really noticed the extended battery live. I kinda wish in would’ve gotten the base model steam deck just because it would’ve been easy to put in an nvme ssd myself.
whaaaaat would the experience be like if you ran batocera on something like this?
What are you using for the desktop background?
Please do egpu tests, and specifically, driving the internal display instead of an external monitor.
A lot of people ask about driving the internal screen on these smaller devices , to as there is conflicting info about whether it works. No reviewers have shown it in action (besides low spec gamer, who only showed the assassin's Creed benchmark running, nothing else).
Could you please try Days Gone?
It is not the CPU, but the GPU that limits the Graphics/FPS for modern PC Titles. Thats why the Steamdeck is so good, it has the "Next-Gen" Mobile GPU RDNA2 inside the APU.
Inside the shown Handheld is just a normal Intel Laptop APU. It's the same rubbish GPU. The only way currently to get better GPU Performance is a dedicated GPU Card.
If I have the onexplayer already, do you think it's worth selling and getting this version?
like always very informative vido , i always follow ur videos/tutorials, can u plz help me, i have onexplayer 5700 AMD Ryzen 7 , how can i oncrease its VRAM, i mean there is no option in its bios, so how to increase its GPU RAM. once again thank u
Can you get switch games on it 👁👃🏾👁
👄
Why do they keep putting in a crappy graphics gpu into these surely there is an amd or nvidia one they could put into this for better performance
It sure is nice but not 1000+$ nice (~1420$), for that shitty price you can buy a big laptop with everything bigger, more material, added Nvidia GPU on top of a CPU with even more cores and so on...
I know it's not the same thing but the point on all of those random portable PC gaming consoles is the less expensive material they get the pricier they seem to be FFS...
It's like hey do you see our 1000€ device with 1KG of pure copper just for cooling? And the 2nd goes hey and you see our 500gr of copper cooling device it cost 1500€ because size matters and the less material we use we increase the price and the suckers will buy it :)
Yikes $1,400 nope but cool video for sure
Who the hell in their right mind would pay $1000 just to play on low settings?
Can you give me this Device Gift 🎁 you 1ruppes 😂
I mean it's nice to have if money ain't a problem🤷♂️ but for me $1400 would give me a nice gaming laptop,1tb ssd,mouse,mousepad and laptop backpack 😂not forgetting a Sn30 pro controller 😁
Thanks for putting this one up ETA. I'm really keen for intel to wow us with a new set of drivers when their DG2 drops next year. I think the Tiger Lake SoC absolutely slaps but is being held back by inefficient drivers. its already a super capable chip but i really think there is more to be had, seeing Fortza up around 60/Med is a good sign.
. A handheld? PFF-
NO PHONE!!!!!!
Everything but a sim card tray for cell phones, why no cellphone support . . . I guess Ill wait till 2nd generation 🥱🥱
Is it ok to use onexplayer 1s without battery? Is it safe to use it that way? I just removed my battery coz its bloated and starts to push the screen from the body. Im hesitant to use it without battery. TIA
$1,500 for a device to run a 6 year old (Witcher 3 released in 2015) game on med/low settings?
Ummmm.......... No?
Mine is i7 1165g7 it run forza4 perfectly and I tried battlefield 1 but still can’t play black ops Cold War I will try custom tdp , I don’t care about emulation I am looking for multiplayer , if you tried black ops let it out so we know what to do, thank you for your videos.
May I ask whom this is for?
A $1200 handheld pc that plays games.
People, just get a Laptop easier and has a keyboard.
This is really strange to me to see things like this and then to be asked
if I have any questions or what i'd like to see. Are you kidding? On a 1200 dollar thing like that?
I could get a decent car for that and it would take me to work. That will just sit on a desk and get hot.
$1400 for a nintendo. Why not just buy a ps5
finally.. the turbo button is back
Price is horrible, you can get a 17.3 inch laptop with Core i7-11800H, 16GB of RAM, RTX3050 or 3060 and 1TB of SSD.
For game streaming with Nvidia GeForce Now, this thing is a Monster and that screen is bloody amazing. Thanks lad.
You can never go overdo it on resolution…. Hehehe…. 😈😈😈
Very cool, but those glossy plastic buttons are hideous
Expensive devices from China means the device is using quality components and it also means ( And Most importantly ) we are in the middle of a chip shortage. Devices that i paid 1200 for last year are now being sold for nearly 2k today. Its getting scary.
Can you please test the speeds of the card reader and usb port. Thank you.
Still waiting for steamdeck, maybe around 2025 here in the Philippines.While others are enjoying these Chinese handhelds now.
Cool. I'll stick with my laptop tho. My son would destroy that lol
Halo Infinite not working with the Intel i7 1195G7 Intel Iris built in graphics at the moment. :( I hope they get it to work. I might return it for the AMD version as that one works just fine.
I am gonna need that moving wallpaper please.
I have onexplayer 1s..pls do thunderbolt on it...2080ti overkill with this cpu?
the 399 dollar steam deck is a better value than this. i mean this handheld is great as far as specs and it also looks incredible but i think when it comes to more bang for your buck the steam deck is superior. now if im being honest, had this not came out so close to the release of the steam deck, it might have had people thinking twice about purchasing the steam deck. for me, just my opinion, but i think this handheld is a bit over priced, again like i said for the price of the base steam deck when compared to the price of this, i cant justify spending over 1000 dollars for a handheld when for that price i can buy an actual desktop or laptop.
Id gladly (save up) to buy one but not without cell phone support, why carry a super portible computer AND a cell phone that's dum I'll wait till next year when they add phone support