Baby Base 12 : A little liquid O2 and Hydrogen : Oxygen not included
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2024
- Today is Liquid O2 and Hydrogen on our mini baby base. It compressed as much as I can and it appears to work so far. Pretty much all the safety features have been removed though so we could save on space. Lets hope nothing breaks or maintenance will be extremely messy.
This episode has also revealed that I don't have enough reed fibre, I'm going to have to fix that in the near future. I say we take all the excess polluted water and dump it into reed fibre when we get the space.
Save game file from end of video
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Mods :
Minibase mod
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Drink tea not coffee
Speed Control
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Music : Aaron Kenny - Happy Haunts
this LOX build is a genius idea, I'm stealing it right away
Stealing on free idea day?
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Holy cow that's the coolest liquid O2/H2 system I've seen!
badum tish
I wonder how the dupes feel about their food being stored in polluted water from Mando's suit accident?
Doh.... what food? I don't see any food.
gosh.. the moment I saw the video is up, I realized I've become addicted.
I will do my best to feed your addiction, no more missed mini base episodes :)
14:20 Mando probably had an accident in their suit
I honestly love that idea for the door heat transfer for the liquid hydrogen, seems way easier and less finicky than trying to set a aquatuner to the less than 14 degree window between solid and gaseous hydrogen
it's less effective though
You still can use door with aquatuner cooling diamond tiles
The minimum temparature is not low enough to make this work for faster gas flow. Try to experiment in your own sandbox save, there could be a working solution
Hey just wanted to say thanks for all the useful and interesting times, watched most of your Oni library and gotta say i like your approach to solving issues that appear. Without you to kinda lead the way i might never have finished my first or second colony, soa agian thanks francis for the help and hopefully to much more to come. (side not just getting into stellaris, lots of fun that though might be a bit time consuming)
@3:57 I think your shearing station is unreachable, explaining the low reed fiber
I think its reachable threw the top door next to the gas pump
There is a two tile high climb to reach that door, Dupes are weak, can't do it ;)
I'm really looking forward to seeing this sour gas oiler design
This series is really great. There are some nice tough challenges other than making just more and bigger stuff. The Cryofuel system is really impressive. I can't imagine how a sour gas boiler would fit in this base... I'm really excited to see your approach. :)
Thank god. I've been waiting for this all week. Finally! Thank you Francis ♥
Seriously impressive design sir, very clever!
Absolutely Fantastic, I have also been waiting all week for this one :) Cheers Francis.
eee, i'm watching your videos about ONI and it's feels gooooood for no reason))
I don't think dupes can make a 1 gap jump that also goes up or down a tile when there is a door there. So I suspect your drecko shearing is inaccessible? In my own trials I have found jumping to a door has to be level, or to make a diagonal jump you need a tile to land on before the door so they have a cell to occupy to activate the door so to speak.
Looking again, if you rotate the mini pump anticlockwise on its left cell so it is upwards (deleting third ladder), then added a tile in front of the door the dupe should be able to make the diagonal jump from ladder. But i'm also looking at your grooming station. As ground below it is air tile, no need for level floor to manage co2. If you could drop that station by 1, you could move pump above it, then still have space for a tile to access to shearing.
Love the series as ever chap :)
i may be a horrible person, but my favorite part of all your video's is when something goes wrong and you let out the pain filled laughter. i love that laugh.
I just realized this entire episode took exactly 8h ingame time to complete.
The speed mod allows me to accelerate time quite a bit, though I think all my food got destroyed as I missed something while I was rushing.
I'd suggest using the Suppress notifications mod.
Btw u don't need to deconstruct the gantries. Just Suppress notifications on it and disable auto repair. It works just fine
I'm psyched to see the mini sour gas boiler
It's only going to do a kilo of crude so don't be expecting miracles :)
Gonna love how casually you tap into that freakin hot hydrogen vent, pipe it straight through your base and turn it liquid in that little spot. that aquatuner has quite the job. That's the true beauty of geothermal power: You don't have to worry that much about the drain until you start getting brownouts. I'd still imagine that the piped, hot hydrogen in the base area coud become an issue, or not?
The hydrogen cools down a lot by itself too. There just isn't that much mass there. And he has some active cooling in the base
I'm always impressed with what you manage to do in this game. Holy cow.
There was definitely a hole in the super coolant loop on the liquid O2/H2 setup.
because the aqua-tuner contains one blub of super coolant
After 3 hours of house cleaning this video just published in the right time :)
Instead of deconstructing the gantry, just disable auto repair. It doesnt melt like the bunker doors and it stays usable
This series has all been super amazing. Best one I've seen on this channel
Looking forward to see how you will handle all the heat for the Lox/H2 rocket. Removing that heat was my biggest issue in my playthroughs.
Francis someone has stolen your food:). Episode begins with almost 2mil and ended with 300k. Watch out for it
It actually disappears @10:57 in less than 200s.
It turns out their was an accident and pee ended up in the food storage, I think I only have pickled meal left. That is the first thing I have to deal with next episode.
Mando probably peed in his suit while waiting to be rescued...funny how a series of unrelated events unfolds and suddenly it's chaos. ONI in a nutshell!
@@FrancisJohnYT Ok, I'll add that to my collection as ONI rule no.101 learned from Francis John: never put your food under your suitdocks unless you have've built a pee collection device under them. :)
Okay folks you know the drill, Francis is building another LOX build. Place your bets now, what is he going to forget to put in.
Oxygen
6:35 That almost ooks like a disaster, lucky you caught the methane inside the liquid lock next shot, or else you would have a lot of nGas in the vacuum area
It's like building a power plant in a shoe box, if your not inches away from disaster at all times your doing it wrong.
hope things are well, my friend. much love from the US!
Whoo baby base hype :D
Imagine making builds this compact on regular map
as always thanks for the video :)
Yeeeha! Oni 👍👍👍
Ah. I've waiting too long for this. This is going to be good.
I've been waiting for this video and it's only 20 minutes!! Come one give me more I need more!
Sorry, but I ran out of time. I am glad I got to fire it up and show it in action before we had to cut out.
Rocket name recommendation: Permanent Mayhem
Image the possibilitys when they add the multiple asteroids
I'm imagining that they will limit some resources to certain types of asteroids. So you will need a multi planetary colony to get access to everything. I can't wait.
Thanks. I'm having a very rough day for personal reasons and your video provided me with a temporary diversion from my own emotions.
You can squish the shove vole ranch by 3 tiles if you delete the toprightmost tile and put the drop-off there instead.
I think that the use of minipumps would have made for a really interesting episode, since you are using 500° hydrogen...
900o hydrogen
Your oil refinery will stop working when the methane sublimes... It can become overpressurized
Couldn't the polluted water pump go on the right of the geyser instead of below it? Save you a bit space for something.
Why not put the gas pump to the right of the hydrogen vent? Seems like you can use the space where the pump is right now, but not the space to the right.
Won't the methane in the oil refinement area melt and break the liquid lock?
insta nat gas
well on my save it Froze and then the nat gas froze lol
I think the hydrogen in your main base is backing up because you stopped burning hydrogen for power and the LH2 production cannot keep on with electrolyzers+ a hydrogen vent
Wonder if he has noticed he's pulling all the O2 from the base to freeze.
Hey francis, I want to ask if you can make a guide on thermal conductivity, mass, heat capacity and the general properties of all materials, it all confuses me a little and I would like to be able to identify for myself what materials would be best to use for different things. I mean i would like to be able to look at the properties of a material and be able to know what it's best use is and why. For an example what the best material would be for temp shift plates, insulated tiles, insulated pipes, radiant pipes etc from what I have on hand any other additional info you deem worthy of this topic. Thank you. Love your content, love ONI.
uhm francis... you are pumping 500c hydrogen in the LH chamber... a temp diffrenc of 755c... hydrogen has a SHC of 2 so you need to kill 1610kdtu per kg of hydrogen.... you shoud prechill that...
That will happen, it's just right now I don't have a spare turbine to feed it through. At the same time the hydrogen from my electrolizers is only 70C, if I run that through a steam turbine area it will end up getting heated up.
The biggest bottle neck is free space right now.
you can prelong hydrogen automation kable all the way to aquatuner (with buffer gate will work better)
What happened to the food in cycle 435? o_0
i think it rotted at 21:09 i see food storage filled with polluted water
I'd love to see your sandbox builds for this episode. :) Curious about whether a metal tile coldsink could be used with mini-liquid pump for LOX and LH2
**edit:** Nevermind! I accidentally skipped the last bit of the episode haha
I was just thinking the same thing, though mainly to satisfy my OCD in seeing those entombed alerts go away behind the ice blocks. I wonder the performance difference (if any, and if it's enough to matter) if he had used thermium metal tiles.
@@GazeboPelt grab the map and test it (lol)
Have u thought of taping into the heat the hydrogen vent makes? It comes out at 500C just a few more metal tiles could help u tap into it
space
Mr Shift nailed it, if I had space I would. I might be able to do something later after the remodel. Though then I will have a second rocket taking up space.
@@FrancisJohnYT hey hey, maybe, just maaaybe you could've put the hydrogen pipe trough a base cooling heat deletion devise's steam room?
perhaps it would allow you to drain some amount of the energy into the power needed, instead of just upping overall base temperature by bringing in 500 C hot hydrogen pipe trough it, even tho you would need to regiggle an awful lot of gas piping trough the base.
If only u could move the valves then u could brick it up and tap into the heat
A radiant duct run through the aqua tuner room would let you pull a few hundred degrees of thermal energy out of it before it hits the condensation chamber.
What do you think about the new dlc info with multiple colonies and playable space destinations?
I think I can't wait to get my hands on it, multiple planet colonies sounds like a dream come true.
Lava is running low
Imagine a playing area that’s 6 tiles wide that goes up the wall of the map
7:50 wouldn't it be better to put the air vent above the liquid vent?
Oh tricky question. For the O2 yesss I think.
However the H2 stacks to 1000kg so if I put the liquid vent below the air vent it can end up going over pressure and I will no longer be able to rotate the H2. O2 only stacks to 500kg so that would work...... however then it would not be symmetrical :)
@@FrancisJohnYT ah, decreasing productivity for aesthetics? I absolutely approve!!
You are wasting so much power right now. That hydrogen vent emits 500 degree hydrogen and you're not leaching that heat before feeding it into the system, so your liquid hydrogen system is trying to liquify extremely hot hydrogen.
Run a loop through your steam room to drain at least some of the heat. Even draining it of 100 degrees of heat would be at least a little extra power returned rather than wasting all that free heat energy by dumping it into the aqua-tuner.
@@gaydonaldtrump the base cooling one is actually feels okay to pump heat into
wait can your dupes still reach the shearing station or is the priority not there cause none of them look sheared?
I'll have to double check but I'm pretty sure they can.
Awesome now all you need is a micro regolith melter
He doesn't have an unlimited heat source for that to work. After he has the sour gas boiler he could do one since he would have the electricity to just throw power at the problem.
@@nikolassaraiva9088 you can make them with glass and metal refineries and it is a net positive heat and energy process just don't think it is possible to make it fit.
Why not cool down the hydrogen in the geothermal powerplant? seems like a wastemof potential energy
The dinky liquid o2 and h2 is ace. Why use ice rather than diamond? Is it so you can have a temp shift plate behind? I haven't quite grasped their behaviour as yet.
We are using both Ice and diamond. The temp shift plates are behind the water. The extra mass allows us to store more potential temperature. Its like having a hot cup of tea versus a hot bucket of tea. The bucket will take longer to change temperature so it keeps things more stable.
@@FrancisJohnYT Ah so it's because the ice has greater thermal stability with it's mass and c. Thank you.
4 tons of hydrogen?? you mean 2 tons hydrogen stacks at 500kg a tile and from what it looks like you should have 4 tiles then your vent will be blocked
I think you got your wires crossed, O2 stacks at 500kg and H2 at 1000kg. Though I did have to go look it up to be sure.
@@FrancisJohnYT you are correct...you win this time Francis Pokeshell John
Why not 2 setups, one for each side, would negate the need for all that insulation.
I'm trying to leave as much space free as possible, all the free space will get filled with recreation buildings.
Can you react to the future changes on ONI pls?
I'll have a few side notes on it in the next video but nothing to in depth, broadly speaking I'm excited for the possibility of multi asteroid colonies.
it would have been more efficient if you would have used thermium metal tiles instead of diamond window tiles
It looks like almost none of your drecko's are getting sheared. They all still have their coats on.
I'll have to double check but once they hit about 20% of coat they show up as having a full coat.
@@FrancisJohnYT Aaah, that's entirely possible. You had just mentioned you should have more reed fibers, and all the regular drecko's looked like they hadn't been sheared.
Can you write down the automation settings in the comments? I've rewatched it like 3x and I still don't know how you have it set :/
why do I check my sub feed just before bed
is it me or the ratio of O2 to H2 is to much, I think you have to much H2 for the quantity of O2 you have, you might need to change it later or wait for the O2 to catch up
True. It can store 2000kg of O2 but 4000kg of hydrogen. However extra hydrogen is not a bad thing, the supply is smaller and intermittent so greater storage is a plus. O2 you can create easily on demand.
@@FrancisJohnYT true, the time to create O2 is faster, any way good setup ( I'm sure that it was hell to design that build) hheheheheh
Thoughts on the DLC news?
Mostly excited, multi asteroid colonies just sounds like perfection. Not sure about the nuclear unless it's a fuel type for the rockets.
@@FrancisJohnYT from everything they said its almost certainly a energy source too. i just hope there is a way to either get the nuclear material without dupe interaction or without any one machine a something like a petrolium boiler but for nuclear material.
@@spoon1710
Something like the Factorio nuclear chain would work. Mine the uranium ore somewhere, refine it, enrich it and then turn the enriched uranium into fuel cells
th-cam.com/video/PW8VhlI8SoE/w-d-xo.html At 1:20 what the hell is that floating above the 'pod bay doors'
Nothing more than a graphics bug. Happens when you save/load with a rocket on screen.
you know food is in pee water right?
My first first comment.
Wait...I'm first?
Oh my god. I CAN SAY IM FIRST TO COMMENT.
YEEEEAAAAAHHH
There is a rumour that Francis John will heart your comment if you're early enough.
Yeah, but only one he likes