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ICE NINE KILLS The Silver Scream 2: Welcome to Horrorwood ALBUM REVIEW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- A review of the new 2021 album from Ice Nine Kills 'The Silver Scream 2: Welcome to Horrorwood.' Ice Nine Kills is a horror-themed metal band that fuses elements of metalcore, deathcore, rock, and other genres.
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Lion's daughter is amazing.
Much much much much better than this new ink record.
The Lions Daughter is BETTER horror metal.
Lion's Daughter done a great EP covers of Judas Priest
Personally I love the album. No I respect your opinion, you have to give Spencer credit because for every song he dedicates a movie to; he puts all his heart into it. No one in the metalcore scene loves horror than Spencer ( the lead of the band.)
he has An entire living room dedicated to Horror. He has the largest collection of real authentic props, and horror based items I have ever seen. Even a glass table case holding Jason himself trapped and caged inside.
You might thinking all the extra cheesy horror things that he adds to the songs is corny… well not exactly, Because there was a reason for this.
For example… In their song communion of the cursed; Dedicated to the original movie exorcist portraying the ultimate evil ( a powerful demon) possessing a little girl. in the beginning Of said song; you here a recording of an exorcism going on.
Fun fact: That exorcism clip is real! These guys actually put a real old exorcism tape recording of a girl possessed by a Devil. The grit and guttural growls of the little girls voice changing to something evil, the bones popping, speaking in Latin. it’s creepy, disturbing, but really cool that they added that attention to detail which Gives you a foreshadowing of what the song is going to be like.
To be honest, I clicked on this review thinking it was gonna be some metal elitist complaining about the album not sounding like Burzum or something. Even though I disagree with a lot of what you said, I think this was still a well-made review and I’m happy that it wasn’t just “not black metal or death metal = bad”. A few things:
1. Hip To Be Scared is from Patrick’s point of view, of course it would be narcissistic and vain
2. The Chucky outfit in the “Assault & Batteries” video is more over the top and grotesque than the OG Chucky, but it’s a combined reference to his stitched together appearance in Bride of Chucky, with the red eyes of Mark Hamill’s 2019 Chucky.
3. I have no defense for “NANANABOOBOO- FUCK YOU” other than that it got a giggle out of me and it fits Chucky’s character pretty well lol
The cheesy or campy aspects of their music is part of the fun for me. The same way I’ll watch an over the top slasher movie and appreciate it for being a fun time even if I can’t quite take it seriously.
@Winter yeah exactly. They embrace the cheesy and ridiculous elements of horror movies for humor. Take Your Pick is another good example.
Thanks. I really do work hard when making these videos to balance being fair, honest, and entertaining. I LOATHE elitism and the types of content creators you are describing. Thanks for watching and commenting. Consider checking out some of my other recommendations.
I get that, but I just think it's lame. But again, if other people find that funny it's all subjective so it's whatever.
The album is a masterpiece
I don't even know how to respond to that other than I'm glad you are enjoying it.
Its far from a masterpiece, its decent at most
@@jamesbrackin6343 nah its a masterpiece every song was perfect sorry you fail to see that
@@Meltymorty Stay tuned. About to record my full album reaction if interested!
@@Meltymorty If you think it's a masterpiece then that's your opinion but not every song was perfect tbh it wasn't brutal enough for me
I think approaching the tracks as if they've been written by characters from the movies they're written about really helps understanding the cheese and cringe because that's what these slasher flicks are.
I don't know if enough fans of the band realize this, but this is the mindset I keep making every song way better to me.
I thought this fact was extremely obvious but I guess not
it don’t think it’s cringe, i think it’s fun and funny
That's totally fine
INK have carved out their own little niche amongst metalcore for the past couple of albums and its definitely hit or miss for most people but if it hits with someone it really hits, they are also amazing live
I could see that
Tbh this actually a much more charitable and balanced review than most of what I've seen from the detractors of the album. While I may not agree with some of your takes, I appreciate your willingness to engage with the album on it's own terms and even hear out the fans for what they enjoy about it.
Good good stuff dude
Thanks. I really appreciate these comments the most. It takes a lot of work to make videos like this, and at the end of the day only certain albums inspire the energy to do it. It’s a balancing act of honesty, fairness, and entertainment that I really try to walk better every time. 🤘🏻
INK is just fun metalcore. The performances are solid, Spencer sounds awesome, they don't take themselves too seriously, they present messed up material in a very campy, edgy and just straight up cool way. They're not masterpiece metalcore giants. But they do the poppy metalcore blueprint like no other imo
For me this album is a masterpiece. AOTY for me for sure.
It’s just shocking to hear that when there have been so many great albums this yeat
I agree, I think they killed it! But metalcore is always gonna be my favorite genre so I could see how people from other genres might not vibe with it.
@@v_rapture_v I love metalcore. Been listening since the early 2000’s. Just don’t like this 🤷🏻♂️ Genre has nothing to do with it for me.
@@MetalTrenches Well my other picks for AOTY would either go to Darko US, Slaughter to Prevail, Brand of Sacrifice, or Spiritbox. I’m highly anticipating Whitechapel’s new album though so the lineup might change depending on how that record is.
I agree I think this album is a masterpiece even miw and I prevail made masterpiece albums
Wait we're not supposed to idolise Patrick Bateman? Okay Paul Allen good one
lol
Because I think Ice Nine Kills rules!!!!
Opinions are Opinions. I love horror movies and Ice Nine Kills 😌
As someone whose a theatre kid and horror nerd the album really speaks to me
Yeah I was going to say, I get that it is a little weird for Spencer to dress up and act the part for his performances and music videos, but the "grow up" comment was rude. Personally, I wouldn't harp on someone who's doing something he loves and it's obviously working out well for him career and financially wise, so it shouldn't really matter
I think that Ice Nine Kills is controlled cringe. I personally love it but I could easily understand someone would dislike or even hate it
This is personally one of my favorite metalcore albums of the year
While I personally enjoyed the album, I think you reviewed it well and explained quite well your point of view. I too usually dislike really cringey edgy stuff, but for some reason I feel like for me INK made it work most of the time on this one. I think maybe because it feels like they're doing it on purpose? Also, their vocals and instrumentation are just phenomenal! But I also do agree that the ending line of Assault & Batteries was pretty cringey, haha.
Spencer doesn't try to be an idiot and it makes a total difference when you think of other edgy things. He's just telling stories from another point of view and very theatrical.
Speaking from the point of view of someone outside the US, I'm Brazilian and I found the video very interesting for discussing this issue of "banalization of evil" with melodic choruses, but I see it differently.
For me Spencer does two important things in this regard:
1. He builds history from the point of view of evil. And obviously for the lyrical self as terrifying as he is, his story is of a romance with his desires.
2. Understand the popcorn or trash side of horror in movies used as inspiration and this is the most important. It's not like the songs justify or soften the badness, they just know where they're coming from and it's from a confusing place.
It takes a while not to take what the band does so seriously, but once you understand it's success.
P.S.: And think about the "wow that's cringe for an adult" part cause this is the reaction of 16 boy trying to be serious and burning all his albuns of melodic or funny bands to listen things more "mature". This is what I don't expect when I listen INK.
I love ink cause they dont take themselves too seriously. It's just good fun entertainment. It doesnt need to be the greatest album ever. They have cringeworthy moments but it's hilarious at the same time. In my opinion alot of other bands lack the creative quirkiness ink brings to the table in their songs and more bands would benefit from doing so instead of trying to be the "super cool bad ass woke band" with no fun gimmick or depth to attach onto.
"Says the guy in the rubber skull mask" 🤣
I really don't find the "nananafuckyou" line cringey at all lol, I think it's 100% intentionally hilarious and that touches like that are what make the album's tone actually stick. It feels exactly the same vibe to me as the Huey Lewis interlude you mentioned that made you smile. (Granted, I didn't watch any of the videos for the album yet, so I don't know if that would have made a difference. But just music-wise? It worked great for me. I usually avoid music videos for first listens to songs because I find the added visual element can distract from the music just as often as it can help get immersed in it.)
So for perspective, my favorite album of the year so far is Colors II. I also enjoyed what I heard of The Work from Rivers of Nihil, which is a positive review of yours I just watched before this. So I know we've definitely got some common ground.
That said, I kinda borderline love this INK album. I find it an unabashed celebration of horror as a genre, from the bruality to the camp, wrapped in a super theatrical bow, and I'm a sucker for theatricality. How you feel about the genericness and FNAFcore vibe is more how I felt about Silver Scream 1, mainly because that album felt supremely repetitive to me. But they diversified their songwriting more on this album and that made the whole formula click for me. I legit love a lot of the melodies on this, I think they're genuinely talented songwriters. The production quality seems perfectly appropriate because the album's not actually trying to be horrifying, just have fun with horror concepts in a hugely self-aware masturbatory way. I pretty much had a smile on my face almost the entire way through it, which really surprised me. I don't know if this helps clarify the appeal more at all, but I figured I'd try.
Little disappointed to hear someone would talk about INK like this but it is a respectable opinion and you did give some respect. You gotta like from me
Everyone's entitled their opinions. Thank you for being accepting of that and hope the video was entertaining nonetheless.
*grabs popcorn knowing from experience that the fans will flip out*
Oh I've already got mine and a large soda to go with it XD
"I love Ice Nine Kills! They are the best band EVER!!!" Says all the 15 year old emo chicks. 😁
@@MetalTrenches Never thought you were in your 30's as I am but I also love to talk about metal albums.
@@joshalan5125 Guess I'm a "15 year old emo chick" now 🤷🏾♀
@@alternativeware Yeah people seem to be surprised by that for some reason
Not every song hits for me, but 10/13 of them are masterful
Gonna have to just agree to disagree 🤷🏻♂️ Glad you’re enjoying it
Their early work was a little bit too "scene" for me, but when The Silver Scream came out, I think they really came into their own. Commercially and artistically.
The whole album has a refined melodic sensibility that really makes it a cut above the rest…
That was sarcasm btw...
XD
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I do actually like Ice Nine Kills since I'm a horror movie fan and I think the over the top chessy- and cringeyness does make them sound pretty fun and it's just music for me to not take it seriously. Funny popcorn metalcore in my opinion. Must watch the movies on which the songs are based on as on Silver Scream I. Excellent and fair review too!
Totally fair! Thanks for watching
Popcorn with the themes and lyrics. But the composition of the music is flawless
Am a huge ice nine kills fan, but I like this video, is like a different perspective on the band and it's good to see someone who dosen't really like band but at least they had a listen, great video
Thanks. Really appreciate that.
I have to say, me personally? I love this album and the band as a whole. I absolutely adore that style of music and also love horror so I guess INK is kinda my thing lmao. The tracks are really fun and well put together in my opinion, but I can definitely respect your opinion and know they won’t be for everyone! Definitely interesting to see another opinion out there!
Always mutual respect for people just enjoying their music
@@MetalTrenches Absolutely :)
Honestly the thing I love most about the band is how much they've grown as artists over the years. Comparing The Predator/Becomes the Prey and Safe is just a Shadow to their newer albums, even Every Trick in the Book, the development is hella obvious. Spencer's vocals have gotten so much better, both cleans and screams. Dan Sugarman joining in '19 just ramped everything up even more. Their lyrics are kinda cheesy, but the deliverance honestly does it for me, especially on songs like Merry Axemas and Farewell II Life. Not to mention, most of these music videos really are top-tier (flashback to them making an entire online videogame briefly), and the integration of the music INTO the videos in the way that they've done it isn't something I've seen before.
Unfortunate you don't like the album or the band. However, I can absolutely understand your points. It, in fact, took me a few listens before I started to appreciate what I was hearing. I do kinda disagree with your point about them not being original, though. I have yet to hear a song that uses a guitar to emulate tires screeching, or a band to use licensed audio from an exorcism in their song (throw back to communion of the cursed). Nevertheless, your opinion is yours, and that's fine.
aside from sayin they're in the same category as hollywood undead. hollywood undead went way downhill after american tragedy, and went to shit after five. fuck modern hollywood undead
Thanks for sharing all of that instead of just being mad 🤘🏻
Who do you mean they, Spencer? He's the only original member left
@@scotttheprobot9096 i am aware
can't discredit the work that the previous members put in just because they're not with the band anymore tho
@@argnt216 I know but you can't really say they grew much considering it's their 2nd album with current lineup. You could say Spencer has shown growth but I would disagree. Only thing he's grown in is theatrics. Vocally he hasn't done anything new. Not trying to shit on ya just pointing out there really hasn't been any growth within the band since etitb.
Their album " every trick in the book" is insanely good and very well written and executed. It is about classic literature and get it all on point up untill the end and the song about Carrie...... you can see them going in the direction they are now. But my point being is the album seems to get overlooked by everyone and blows this crap out of the water , just the extreme change from talent to rediculous kind bothers me
Definitely respect your opinions and honestly makes me see them in a different way. Love Ice Nine Kills, always will but I definitely see where you’re coming from
People are free to enjoy what they want. Thanks for watching 🤘🏻
I never paid attention to this band before but I decided to give this album a try, and I'm so glad I did, I really like this album, it's really creative and the production and mix sounds juicy af. I understand you didn't feel it, and it's a shame. You didn't mention FAREWELL II FLESH, in my opinion is the best song on the album, I mean, it's hard to believe that anyone who's into metal in general wouldn't appreciate this song.
People like different things 🤷🏻♂️
@@MetalTrenches for sure man, I respect your opinion, but the song is so good! lol
I'm a fan. They're easily one of my favorite metalcore bands out there right now, and have been for awhile. That being said, based off your content I didn't think it would be your cup of tea. That's fair though, to each their own. And it's cool for you to at least give it a try, so kudos to you.
I always like to try new things. I've been surprised with plenty of stuff in the past.
I think what I like personally about this band is they blend theatre like music with metal the melodies and metal mix I can really appreciate I used to be all screaming and little singing but as I got older I grew to appreciate musical theater and or just the singers from Broadway to me ice nine is the mix of both but that’s just me and something I had to come to realize and accept my favorite bands would eventually have to stop just screaming cause over time damage their vocals does take it’s toll so I’m willing to grow with it should I appreciate what they bring to the table
I appreciate the style. I think it's mostly the concepts and lyrics that drag it down for me. And some of these melodies are just really generic. The Box is a good example where it feels like everything comes together
@@MetalTrenches I like certain things in the horror genre tbh before I started listening to this band I didn’t like horror then I listened to them and I somehow grew the appreciation slowly example for me one of the movies to this day I can’t stand is hostel 1 or 2 but for some reason the song wurst vacation got me wanting to try it out again so maybe it could also be a good way to introduce a horror virgin to the genre. I can agree it may be a bit childish but what do we say about actors in their thirties and fourties who really have a passion for the horror genre spencer does come off alittle autistic when it comes to horror but even if he is he has created something of a following from just a single genre of movies as long as the man doesn’t get too full of himself and put credit to the people who feed him and the band it’s content I don’t see a real issue but I can see when you say the band or just the album is not for all
I'm a fan of TSS1 and TSS2 as well, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. Cheers
Thanks for watching!
If you don't like it, you don't like it and I respect that.
It is important to note though, that you missed one huge key element to these guys and that's the fact that all of the songs and videos capture the feelings and vibes of the movies perfectly.
You mentioned the corniness of Assault & Batteries but if you watch Chucky, it is one of the corniest, most over the top, ridiculous movies I've ever watched and the song reflects that with its chaotic energy and silly lines.
The same is true for my personal favorite track; Ex-Mortis.
That song absolutely perfectly captures the soul of the Evil Dead franchise and almost sounds like it was written by Sam Rammi himself. All the way from the voice effects reminiscent of the iconic demonic sound to the brass instruments in the background adding that feeling of silliness to the climax of the song when Ash racks the shotgun, says "swallow this" followed by a "Groovy" signifying that now he's the badass and not the deadites just like the turn in the movie(s) in the 3rd act when he does the same thing.
I'm mostly ambivalent towards Ice Nine Kills, but I know a huge fan of them, and they love this band because its fun to them, and the horror references are a bonus, so yeah, an audience for everything.
Honestly I used to be in the exact same shoes as you with INK up until The Silver Scream 1. (I completely understand your dislike for them as they really aren't for everybody.) I was fully prepared to hate that album and never give it a chance, but one of my friends kept telling me to check it out. Man, I'm glad I did since the both The Silver Scream 1 and 2 have been some of my favorite metalcore projects in years. I truly just appreciate how fun they are and that campy/hokey feeling they go for with a lot of the lyrics suits most of the films quite well.
So when you mention that they depict patrick bateman as a cool antihero, I see it as a depiction to fit into the album's narrative. Spencer is the killer in the story, so the band is taking the killer's perspective. I think they are showing the horror with bringing movie plots into real life, or at least that's how I choose to see it to perceive the music with a good narrative. Also the ending of assault & batteries makes it my least favorite song on the album. I like the album, but I also see several flaws with the presentation. I also love hearing critiques of things I love, and I always keep an open mind to look at things objectively.
In HTBS it's sung from Bateman's pathetic and vain perspective. Remember the scene where he's staring in the mirror at himself with the prostitutes? So to me it makes sense that he'd idolize himself in his own head, because he does.
They pay tribute very well and as much as they can. Yes using musical cues and lines from the actual movies could be considered unoriginal, but they do things like getting the grandson of the guy who directed the shining for that song. I think going that meta is cool as hell, and they do stuff like that a lot.
The Chucky thing is cringe, but that's just Spencer. He's very theatrical. But that's also the point, the childish na na na na, followed by the abrupt "f you." That's Chucky, a cute, vulgar, and kinda cringe doll.
INK has honestly sounded this way for as long as I've listened to them (Safe is just a shadow) they're their own sound entirely which is what drew me to them in the first place. Metalcore is absolutely over saturated and a lot of it sounds very similar, but INK has always stood out in the crowd. Whether it's Spencer's range or catchy hooks, I've always been drawn to it.
Are they the most original? No. But they've always taken inspiration from movies and books. Their band name is literally a book reference. They found their niche and honestly perfected it. They are now to Horror what Our Last Night is to cover songs, except these aren't just covers but completely original songs paying tribute to horror. You say other people do this better and if that's so then please tell me where to find a better tribute to Halloween than Stabbing in the Dark, or to the Exorcist with Communion of the Cursed. I mean that sincerely I'd love to hear them.
Obviously I disagree, but this was a well done review nonetheless. The only thing I'll get mad at is comparing them to Imagine Dragons. Again, this sound isn't new to them and is something they've done since the start. Listen to The Greatest Story Ever Told and you'll see what I mean. The FNAF comparison wasn't inaccurate though. I could absolutely see INK doing it and it sounding like that.
I don’t really think he is idolizing Patrick Bateman, Patrick Batman would idolize himself.
Yeah I mean maybe he's just playing that up, but it just all feels very adolescent to me
I think ice nine is going in an interesting direction with their previous 2 albums. Every Trick in the book, The Predator becomes the Pray, and Safe is Just a Shadow (reshadowed ofc) were all albums that for me had no skips, and thats mostly due to me liking say 10/12 from each album, and the very few that i didnt particularly like being just ok. But with TSS and TSS2, the songs are either absolutely phenomenal (ie. F.L.Y (my favorite ink song tied with The Greatest story Ever Told) The Box, Take Your Pick, Rocking the boat, The world in my hands, and a decent handful of others), then you have just some borderline unlistenable garbo(ie. Savages, Merry Axe-Mas, Your Numbers Up, Hip to be Scared, The Shower Scene and some others).
Then ofc the songs that i think are just meant to be fun, such as Ex-Mortis and Assault and Batteries.
Alot of the picks for their singles i just dont understand either??? I think theyre just because the movies and IPs are more popular and will get more buzz.
I am very much holding out hope for an alien song if they do a deluxe of TSS 2.
Also wondering if theyre gonaa switch it up with their next set of material, i dont think theyd make a silver scream 3
i love how campy this band is !
As an Ice Nine Kills fan, I like seeing another opinion like yours that makes me analyze the songs and find parts of them that I didn't know were there. It's sad that most of the Fandom is absolutely shitty and doesn't give anyone any chance for opinions besides good ones. The fnaf bit was funny as hell. Did you try out wurst vacation? One of the better songs
I had listened to the whole album a few times
i love this album, it's a top 5 of the year for me for sure, but i do enjoy hearing opinions from the other side of the fence. i totally get where you're coming from with this review. i'm glad we disagree - cause if we agreed on everything, we'd have nothing to talk about.
Thank you so much for the rare comment that gets it 🤘🏻
INK is definitely one of my favorite bands, by far. But I see where you're coming, although, I may disagree with you entirely, I enjoy your take on the album. But I do believe this album is a masterpiece, better than anything they've ever done. But that's my opinion! Have a good day or night, whenever you're reading this! 🖤🖤
I enjoy the band album they do a good job for me making catchy songs that get stuck in my head.
Respect your opinion. I love the band because of the horror vibe and because of the unique sound. Don’t think its a masterpiece but I think its a great album. Also you have a point about how polished the quality is.
I do disagree with the review since I really liked the album (even though the first Silver Scream is better to me) you gave a fair review. Although big disagree on the Take Your Pick track, that song is awesome and it's always awesome to hear Fisher's vocals.
Thanks for watching 🤘🏻
Loved the RLM reference.
Best YT channel 🖤
I liked the album. Some parts were cool but one thing I was kinda eh on was the first song sounded like a metal version of "we're doing a sequel" from the Muppets
5:37 Because they're being ironic. They're putting a comedic twist on this.
Comedy only works if it’s actually funny.
@@MetalTrenches Damn
RLM watching that Resident Evil scene always makes my day
*it's borderline experimental!*
The laughter is so infectious. Favorite channel
I really enjoyed this album personally, but I do believe some of it is cheesy. Its fun and intense with some of the best instrumental moments. Assault and Batteries is kind of cheesy but one of my favorites because its fun and still got that headbanging intensity.
I dunno I really liked F.L.Y because it just sounded different from the other songs in the album!
3:21 - 3:35 You hit the nail on the head so hard it caused a rift in the space-time continuum.
Never heard of The Lion's Daughter, but after hearing that clip I need to check them out, they sound enticing.
Please do. Check out the review as well. It's linked.
@@MetalTrenches perfect, will do! Thanks :)
Interesting. I'm right in the middle of these here opinions. I had fun with a lot of this band's videos and enjoy the switch ups, theatrical samples and hyperactivity. The lyrics are a bit cringy, but also fun. The song composition and production is really well done. But.. I generally dislike this kind of melodic emo-y punk-y boyish sounding singing style. It's not bad, and kinda catchy, but I typically avoid these kind of bands. This one has something extra though, and I'll listen to some more, the sound might grow on me. I'll try to keep an open mind. We'll see.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Sometimes it feels like being even just a little critical is illegal.
@@MetalTrenches yeah people often feel like a different opinion is like a personal attack. Plus, when they really like a video, they tend to binge watch reactions/review videos, to keep their positive hype up. And here you are, breaking up their happy high!
But don't worry. They'll forgive and forget. Or, good riddance! I say stay true to your opinion. You gave it respectfully too. Best you can do! Keep it up, you're running a good channel.
Wow…love this album. Dang!
And that’s cool too
Lol I find it hilarious that you just roasted one of my top number 1 favorite bands 🤣
And I'm glad that they are. Would never tell someone not to love something. Hope you got a laugh regardless. Peace, love, and the lolz
My favorite part was when Spencer was licking the knife and you said stop your almost forty it’s beyond cringe.🤣
Byw I do watch a lot of your videos I like them so I subscribed a little while ago.
I don't get this band either but 🍻 to the fans that dig the album. I'm still busy trying to digest the new Vildy album. Fuck me, back to it. THALL
I enjoy the camp and just this latest album, with like 4 other songs elsewhere
I agree with u on a lot of stuff I like how honest you are with all your reviews I still liked the album so I would probably give it a 7 or 8 but ye lots of cringe 😂
As always, glad that you are enjoying the album. There is always room for differing opinions around here 🤘🏻
I think that they fall into a weird spot when it comes to their music. Is it campy and cheesy, absolutely. It's campy and cheesy in same way that musical theater is. I kind of see them as musical theater for metalcore kids. I personally listen to stuff alot closer to deathcore, but still actively enjoy the theatrical element and musicianship of INK. Sometimes you want to belt out what is essentially aggressive showtunes.
I also think the criticism of Spencer being almost forty and still being overly performative in certain ways is due mainly to their core audience, which is aged 20+ females who enjoy the music, grew up as scene kids, and also find him attractive. It's not a knock on the fanbase, I'm just saying he's intelligent when it comes to marketing which will take you alot further success-wise than sitting in the pocket of obscurity with chunky deathcore. They are mainstream 100% because they chose to be a mainstream band.
Essentially, I think you have to approach the schtick for what it is. Fun horror themed approachable metalcore.
That's fine. I just can't fully get into it
Hilarious review, and now I want fnafcore.
Mathcore FNAFcore would be the best
@@MetalTrenches Every Time I Die Mixed With TheLivingTombstone’s FNAF Songs
@@II-rx5yi #makeothappen
We come for the cringe, we stay for the bad puns. Accept it. 😂
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You know who did this better....Iced Earth with the Horror Show.
Because I work at a haunted house and this is what the other scare actors listen too
lol this is a great factoid
5:31 i think it’s hilarious, so bad it’s good. I thought the album was pretty great, plenty of variety and a huge step up from the last one which I disliked, i say 8/10. Tbh I normally hate “imagine dragons-core” but this just hits different to me. Still, respect to your opinion
And yours as well
I want to like this band but there's just something about it that makes me roll my eyes. I think its maybe that the references are just way too on the nose. It's like he's doing nothing but making references instead of actually writing a song. You nailed it with the five nights at freddy's thing too.
An thoughts on Make Them Die Slowly?
Haven't heard them yet
Ahh same concept as INK but from a member of anaal nathrakh. I like what they do a lot more.
Great review by the way
I liked your take even though I disagreed with the review. You’re well spoken and I get why you don’t like it.
Thanks for being a reasonable human being 🤘🏻
We like it because it’s good
What an incredibly fully formed opinion with reasons to back it up...
@@MetalTrenches no reason I just like it
The backlash to this video! It's gonna be your most disliked video... Wait, isn't it already?!
I think Jinjer still wins
Emo! Emo! Emo! Waaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! 😝
I knew you'd love it XD
@@MetalTrenches Dude, I had the hardest time typing that comment without busting out laughing.
I love INK but I also like fnaf still so ig you're on to something lol
I have never really followed them to much, i prefer me Limp bizkit for fun cheesyness
Same, although hats off for the level of effort here
@@MetalTrenches its a fun listen, dad vibes
For an original sounding different band i suggest Twelve Foot Ninja they released their new album today and its so much fun
I keep wondering if Limp Bizkit is finally going to release Stampede of the Disco Elephants before the end of the year. If they do, thats yet another band we can cross off the list of long awaited albums along with Rammstein, Slipknot, Tool, and yet still nothing new from SOAD. 😂
@@joshalan5125 i wonder that myself
It's a band that's fun and I can jam with the wife
idk their songwriting is just on point, even if it is that "fun cringe" vibe
I prefer Lordi for horror inspired listening.
Never been a big fan of them either personally
Ok. All of this is valid and I guess in some way true- but the FNAF bit. That went way too far and is entirely off
Not even worth a giggle? I know I'm being at least somewhat hyperbolic with that
I will admit that the "na-na-na-na-na-na FUCK YOU" part made me laugh my ass off though. It's cringy and unintentionally funny but funny nonetheless
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I reely agree with his points. The higher the quality of a horror movie, loses the horror appeal. And the sound effect inserts are not needed and turns me off. The pet cemetery song is there best and assault and battery is clever to use the toys r us jingle for there chorus. Sounds nu metal and not metal to me and childish to be so clean. I was expecting to be more afraide with the clean vocals but scratchy and gutteral like troglodyte does. Feeling the paranoia that somthing is out there in the woods looking back at you. If you havnt heard of troglodyte there a Missouri based thrash metal band about sasquatch. Please listen to them and review.
I'll have to check them out. Thanks
@@MetalTrenches no problem ^.^
Used to be a big fan of theirs but I agree fully. Their last good album was every trick in the book. Then it became the Spencer Charnas show
This is a band that whenever I see the hype train roll into the station or Spotify puts it in my trending now section I give another try to. I’m always left thinking is it me who’s wrong? Then I have my principle Skinner moment
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I don't really agree with this review. While I admit, this is not better than the previous album, I feel like most of the negatives you listed for this one are why most people like them. I've been a fan for 10 years and have followed their trajectory. The reason they are so big now is because they are very marketing savvy. They have almost always drawn inspiration from horror movies but the last two albums they leaned in heavily and have blown up. They mixed metal, horror movies, and catchy music. It's kinda unbelievable that someone hasn't done something so simple yet but I guess it makes sense because their are always people like you who would have labeled it corny or unoriginal. They did it anyway and surprise surprise, people love it! And now they've branched out and are accepted by the horror community, making their audience larger and larger. So when you say you don't understand why they are popular, it's kinda a self report.
I love the sound of INK but the imagery and the lyrics are so corny and dumb all it is just Spencer (the lead vocals) just singing about the plot of a movie I wish they would find something else to do as a image because when they weren’t doing the horror gimmick no one cared about them so they sound good but definitely are popular out of shock value
Agreed
Considering horror movies are all campy, I believe it’s the point
The Lion’s Daughter - Skinshow
As a fan, this album is just ok (probably like a B- on your scale) . Like with most horror movies funnily enough, the sequel just isn't as good. The song writing isn't up to par with their last couple of albums and they cut out their ballads, which were needed for the sake of variety and pacing. You have to be fan of scene-sounding metalcore to get behind it, which I don't think was the case for their last 2 records.
It has its moments. I just think it tries WAY too hard a lot of the time
You were right. This one is hilarious. I agree with all your criticisms. "Pure unadulterated cringe!" Great review and again one of my favs. Your production and entertainment factor keeps improving. How you keep up with all this new music and a family life is crazy. Thanks for referring me to this video.
The grade seems a little high, but I have to agree with pretty much everything. I just can't deal with these guys. Also a huge horror fan, but this just comes across as silly to me. My buddy's 5 year old likes them a lot so maybe they're good for a gateway band? That "borderline experimental" line from Jay cracks me up every time by the way.
I felt points were deserved for at least being adequate performers and the production value. There are bands out there that legit can’t even play their instruments
@@MetalTrenches Good point. I would only be slightly more harsh. I found it very difficult to get through and the cringe level is very high. There's plenty of bands out there that are super popular and I'll never understand why. If people like it, more power to them though. Seems like it would at least be fun if I was into it.
Also this is off topic, but I meant to ask if you've ever listened to a band called Johnny Boothe? They have a little bit of mathcore in them and seems like something you might dig. Only have two albums and the first is more raw, but both are good.
@@nwebster2012 I have not. I’ll have to check them out
@@MetalTrenches Their first album has a guest vocal spot by Tommy Rogers from BTBAM too.
I am objectively removing my thoughts on this album as it is not something I would ever listen to.
Respect to you for doing this!
It was fun. I actually had a great time making this video despite not enjoying the album.
I don't understand the hype for this band, at all.
Me either. I get why people LIKE it, but not why it's such a big deal.
@@MetalTrenches see, I don't even get that. There is some talent here, but it sounds like a jumbled mess to me.
incredible production, high quality videos that make all horror fans feel great and enjoy the journey (which if u say the videos aren't good, you are lying to yourself), insanely creative and layered breakdowns (which feature key noises from the films they represent which is absolutely amazing), heaviness, melody, the best vocals i have ever hear in a metalcore band and very good and straightforward lines that deliver the quintessential. Yeah I agree, it is not the most musically complex song structure, however it is 100% fun and it sounds fantastic while being insanely creative. I may or may not be biased since I ve been jamming the band for years, however I always notice when albums get weaker from a band and in this case, it isn't only the best INK project, but my favourite album in the whole world to give an inside. The album really impressed me and delivered way more than I have expected. I understand why you wouldn't like it, exactly as the author mentioned. Those are the thoughts of a person who really likes it though. I might have to include that I listen to music for fun and not for technicality or anything like that, If I like the sound, I vibe and love the album.
A fair 5.5 outta 10 for me. Funeral derangements being the highlight the rest was kinda painful
Painful looooool
@@reganpower4782 right
Wtf 😂😂 painful? You have shit taste in music then
@@doctorvondoom5797 I know right, what a joke
I like this album and Ice Nine Kills. I agree with absolutely everything you have said here though. They gotta chill out with the cringe.
Doing this review because so many people requested it yet nearly every comment is how much they suck. I’ll never understand why people spend their time shitting on stuff they don’t enjoy. You won’t see me in the comments under a limp bizkit or 5 finger death punch video ripping them apart. 🤷🏼♂️
This band is supposed to be cheesy and fun. That’s the point.
I feel like the comments have been pretty fair honestly. There were a LOT of people who love this band in my audience who were the ones that asked for it
@@MetalTrenches fair enough. Lions daughter rules btw
because the people who don't like the album swarm over these negative reviews.
like why do dipshits who don't like the genre review this anyway?
@@spectre722 I mean you're kind of right that the audience is to blame because that is how they choose to click. But me personally, I reviewed it because I was genuinely interested and I like to try new things. And again, my own audience has a bunch of INK fans that wanted to hear my thoughts. Ultimately I decided to make the review because it inspired enough thoughts to put the hours in that making a video like this takes. I think sometimes people don't realize just how much effort this ends up taking. It's not something I can just throw together. And in the end, I didn't HATE this. There is plenty of stuff I don't review at all just because I find it so boring that there is nothing interesting to even add to the conversation.
This is a very bizarre review. If your comparing Ice Nine Kills to Imagine Dragon’s, then you haven’t heard enough Imagine Dragon’s. It’s supposed to be polished and highly produced cause that’s just the music standard of today. Even in saying that it’s so clean sounding, it has some of the heaviest breakdowns and tracks I’ve ever heard. Though I like The Lion’s Daughter. If you showed someone INK in comparison to The Lions Daughter. INK would appeal far more. And not understanding why people like them? The horror gimmick. The videos. There are NO metal bands doing anything similar and as well done as this band is. INK is keeping metal fresh and relevant still to the mainstream and we need MORE of that to keep it alive. As far as it feeling goofy and cheesy, Spencer has said himself in interviews that they like doing that to keep it feeling more fun then overly serious. I respect your opinion but as someone that reviews music which I think is awesome, try to look at things more subjectively and not just in this “underground metal” sense.
Some of the heaviest, have you listened to the older stuff its so much heavier then this album that has only a few really heavy and brutal tracks, this album has a lot more elctro and smooth sounds compared to the other albums
Its fun, but the song about chucky is the WORST song ive ever heard.chorus and everything but i always sing along lmao. A girl i was talking to really liked them and i said i dont get why people like them because i thought the horror movie trend was liek a im 21 years old type thing and even then youre pushing it. She said this was her FAVORITE band. So i listened to the entire album all the way through 2 times while i was at work and if i decide its not important to be good on every single level, i can have fun amd just sing along, and also, id say his vocals are really cool. I love his singing, and i adore his more deathcore screams. HOWEVER i may have missed what some songs were even referencing because i havent watched all these films
I respect your opinion but good lord are some of the points you make way off 😂 I personally think this record is a masterpiece each song feels different in a way keeping everything fresh.
Do your 6.72k followers know you joined an ice nine Kills fan group to post this review for clout?
For all of the like 12 people who will watch it from there? Yeah that’s some mad clout. I’m just always interested to meet fans who actually are willing to chat with people who think differently about various bands than I do. If you’re mad I feel like you didn’t even listen to what I had to say 🤷🏻♂️
Seriously?….
This album is my favorite and ice nine kills is the one band that does horror movie songs right
1. Ice nine kills
2. Motionless in white
And five finger death punch
Interesting. I haven't ever listened to a full album by Ice Nine Kills but I heard American Nightmare, Stabbing In The Dark, and Thank God It's Friday from The Silver Scream 1 and enjoyed them a bunch. Every clip you played in this video sounded bad and do not make me want to check this album out.
Yeah the singles are honestly the worst tracks imo
I liked this band when they were called Wednesday 13
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