Transmission fluid change: Hyundai Santa Fe & Kia Sorento 2013-2018
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There is a Hyundai TSB 21-AT-006H which states that the gear should be in Park with the engine running for the fluid check. Not neutral.
Drain bolt torque: 32ftlb
trans temp: 122F-140F
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0:30 remove underbelly pan
2:16 loosen drain plug
3:55 reinstall drain plug
4:30 fill plug removal
4:48 Transmission fluid type
5:13 funnel and filling
5:53 checking trans temp with scanner
6:46 shifting through the gears
7:19 level check plug removal. There is a Hyundai TSB 21-AT-006H which states that the gear should be in Park with the engine running for the fluid check. Not neutral.
8:02 reinstall fill level plug
8:38 reinstall underbelly pan
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I just did this on my Hyundai too. 3.9 quarts came out so I also added 4 liters and went to open the inspection port and nothing came out! It turns out that my transmission was under filled! The dealer serviced the transmission at 60k miles and it now has 120k miles. I read the service manual and it says to add 5 liters so I did that and only a little came out, so my trans was about a quart under filled. Btw you want more to come out than in your video but you are in the range of it being okay. Also, you technically want to do this 3 times to get 90% of the fluid changed since there is about 8 quarts in there total. Thanks for the video and for all those who just put in what comes out, know that a lot of times, including from the factory, the transmissions are under filled (still enough but on the low side) and there is evaporative loss, so you definitely want to do it this way and fill it with 5 quarts or liters to ensure it is actually full.
Thanks for adding your tips and experience Dave!
Well why would the factory under fill it huh? 😂
@@chinaboss6683 because there is a tolerance threshold and they probably know the minimum they can get away with to save money, but over time you have evaporative loss. The point being you do not want to put in the same amount that comes up. Follow the proper fill procedures.
OPEN THE FILL VALVE FIRST! Sorry fort yelling, but if you open the drain and lose the fluid, and then can't open the fill (or strip the fill plug out), you're boned.
Always great advice! Thanks!
Ty for posting this Bennie, I tweaked my service process a little but you included some very beneficial info. Hats off to guys like you. Keep it up. Jonny @ J.D.Mechanical.
You’re welcome Johnny! Thanks!
On my Nissan and Lexus I let the car sit until ambient temperature (over night). Drain the fluid, Measure it and refill with exact same amount. Never had issues or did a complicated procedure.
Lots of people do it that way. Personally, I always do it this way because if it was low, or overfilled to begin with, the fluid level will still be wrong after the service. I feel like there must be a reason this is the procedure that's called out for.
As I noted above, I did it both ways and found out that my transmission was a quart low so it is advisable not to just put in what comes out. 😉
Yup.. exactly..
@@bennieaustmy versa cvt has a tube to set level.. have not watched this yet
@@bennieaust I have a 2019 Optima plug-in hybrid, how do I keep the engine running to check the level through the middle opening, or is the procedure different for the PHEV version?
There should be two ATF lines from transmission to ATF cooler. They are normally rubber hoses and have red paint mark on one and yellow on the other one. Disconnect line with yellow paint mark before pouring ATF in thus you don't need to wait and deal with burping ATF in funnel - it'll just pour in. Reconnect cooler line after pouring ATF in.
ATF in the video was way overdue for its change. It was too dirty to my liking during level check too.
You can replace all ATF by evacuating it via ATF cooler line with red paint mark and topping it off about a quart/liter at a time. With a long hose running into a bucket for old ATF, run engine till about 1L comes out and stop engine, add same volume ATF, repeat.
Thanks for the tips Eugene!
@@scout7060 there are a lot of manufacturers that say the fluid is lifetime. If you read the fine print it will say *except in extreme climates. The problem is that most climates meet the criteria of “extreme”. Even when not in extreme climates I still do not believe it is lifetime fluid.
No worries, you can’t go back in time, but you can start serving it now.
great tip to disconnect the yellow line. I got lazy and tried to add the new fluid without doing so, and I spent more time cleaning up the mess from the burping fluid than I did disconnecting the line. BUt, once the line was disconnected, the fluid goes in smoothly.
Question on the red line - is that the supply to the oil cooler, or the return from the cooler? I am trying to figure out which direction the fluid is flowing, and therefore which end of the disconnected lines to add a drain line to for catching the old fluid being pushed out.
@@georgeottinger8168 the line with red paint is going from transmission to cooler, yellow one is return line.
@@eugene4817 thank you. This is very helpful. I appreciate your taking the time to answer.
Awesome job. Just bought a 2015 Santa fe with 57k on it. Ill do this service at next oil change and every 30k after that. Thanks for the help!
You're welcome! It should treat you well for a long time if you keep up on the service like that.
So the specs say that vehicle holds about 10 quarts yet you only added 4?? I'm doing similar job on an earlier model Sorento and just didn't want to overfill. Thanks!
You will be draining off any excess, so you don’t need to be worried about overfilling. If yours is a different generation it may have different qualities. I can assure you if it’s the same generation as the one in this video my quantities are very close.
Good Video and Have a Question: All Drain plugs get the same torque ? Even IF it is a Newer Vehicle ? Just asking
Thanks!
If you are just asking about the same vehicle but a year or two newer (still within the age range listed in the video title) then yes.
If you are asking as broad a question as it looks like, “all drain plugs” then no.
The torque spec is based on the type of metal and the size of the fastener. I’m sure there are a lot of vehicles that do in fact have the same torque but you should look up the torque for your vehicle specifically.
@@bennieaust 👍😁
Saw a guy who used an IR thermometer to check the temp of the transmission pan. Would be interesting to compare that temp to the temp on a scan tool. The other dude was looking for 140 degrees, I'm thinking the temp of the fluid was probably higher before the pan got that hot. Do you know what the maximum temp the fluid gets to under normal operating conditions? Good job on the video.
Thanks J A, I’m not sure what the max temp get to but I’m sure it varies based on ambient temp and driving conditions.
I have used an IR temp gun in the past as well. Definitely not my preferred method but better than nothing at all. I’m going to try and used a IR temp gun in the future along with my scanner so I can give an even more specific temp farther for people using an IR temp gun.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks J A, I’m not sure what the max temp get to but I’m sure it varies based on ambient temp and driving conditions.
I have used an IR temp gun in the past as well. Definitely not my preferred method but better than nothing at all. I’m going to try and used a IR temp gun in the future along with my scanner so I can give an even more specific temp farther for people using an IR temp gun.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the tip about the car being running AND in neutral. I was puzzled because I drained 4.5L of old fluid, but after the gallon bottle of MaxLife (3.78L) I was getting a steady stream out of the overfill hole. I checked it again after watching your video and sure enough....nothing coming out of the overfill hole while in neutral. Added another quart and that did the trick!
You’re welcome!!
Is it a similar procedure for a 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe? Do you recommend doing the drain and fill more than once to really clean it out? Thanks!
I haven’t done this on a 2022 yet so I don’t know for sure. But I would guess it’s close.
If you do it on a regular basis, just one drain and fill should be fine.
By doing that, it will corrected the fluid level?
If you follow this procedure you will have the fluid level correct.
Thank you very much for taking the time to do this. Over the past few years I have decided to invest more into tools and have been doing my own auto maintenance. It’s very enjoyable and I’ve been able to save some money. I need to do a trans fluid change on my daughters Santa Fe. It was thinking of bringing it in to have it done but after seeing this I think I’m going to tackle it! The scanner you use….looks like it would be handy thing to have. This is from harbor freight correct? Are you happy with it?
You’re welcome!
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I watch scotty kilmer channel and he said that this is the best way to do transmission service as he say that full flush is not good, but adding small ammount ~3 liters of fresh oil every couple of years should work great.
@@viliusr.8792 There are a lot of old myths on everything in the automotive/mechanical niche that are often outdated from the 30's/40's/50's/etc. Scotty is an entertaining character, but sometimes he passes on old wive's tales.
Main thing is, its true that a trans 'flush' as offered by dealers/etc are often times some weird reverse flow flush that pushes existing crap around from where its naturally gathered and does cause problems.
If you want to replace fluid, best is to do as shown here, which will remove maybe 60-75% of fluid, and then do it again to remove even more of the old fluid. Could go another time to get even more out, however unless your drain is leaving an extra quart or two from factory full fill in a sump, its diminishing returns.
Doing a partial every couple years is sort of half-assed vs just doing 2 drain/fills at once and getting 80-90% of the crap actually out of there vs a slight cleaning and then driving a couple years with that stuff mostly still in the system.
@@boots7859 I get it, I did full flush by disconecting oil line that goes to radiator, when starting engine , oil would run out fast, I did 3 starts emptying 4 quarts and refilling with same ammount. After 12 quarts new oil showed up and it was, but it was more work. In TC gearbox I can get about 3 quarts after removing the drain nut and then refill it and do it every two years or so. Vehicle is 10 years old now, but runs like new, but still maybe doing partial this 30 percent every two years will help as running on original oil for 15 years sounds shady although I think nothing would happen :) I am just tool laizy to do full flush again :) and I do not think it is needed by the way car is running after 10 years (like new)
I have a 2016 kia Sedona. Im assuming it would be the same process as far as running in neutral while level checking at the end? Others show running the car but i think they had it in park.
Should be the same procedure.
Running in park will work great.
@@bennieaust wait, so park or neutral?
@@outdoor044 Hyundai/Kia say park or neutral.
Why not leave the side cover “fill/sight” plug off and fill it up till you hear it start to come out. Then install the plug back on and reinstall the top fill plug? This is the way I did the 2010 Santa Fe we have. I have no issues with any burping.
That’s an option but I wouldn’t run it until it has fluid in it.
If you set the level with it not running it will be low.
It needs to be done with it in the temp range and running.
Fluid comes out when the temperature is higher because tranny fluid expands when heated. Checking the level when between 122-140 degrees gives you the correct level.
How long would you say you ran it to get up to the temperature?
15-20 minutes, it was outside in the MN winter before I started so it could take more or less time depending on starting temp.
I have Kia with 6 speed auto transmision. Many people say oem hyundai sp4 original oil must be used. Can i ask did you have any problem after using this aftermarket oil?
No issues at all. It meets the Hyundai / Kia spec. If it gives you peace of mind, buy it at the dealer, but I have no concerns running a Valvoline product that meets the manufactures specification.
@@bennieaust my elantra started slipping with valvoline fluid, got sp4 fluid and its fixed...
@@bendino9016sounds like a good move. If I ever had had issues with Valvoline I would have done the same.
Thanks for making this video nice and simple to understand. I had a question. My 2013 santafe has 139k, and i dont think the transmission fluid has ever been changed 😬. Would it cause any problems if I change it now with so many miles on it?
I would always recommend servicing a transmission even if it was past due. I have never had an issue with that even in extreme situations. There are people who claim that can cause problems though so you will have to make your own decision. In my option, I’d do it.
what is the size of the drain plug crush washer ?
What is the size of the crush washer on the drain plug, ?
I’m not sure what the dimensions are of it. Sorry.
@@bennieaust OK, Thank You.. Best.
@@salehsalehi8955 you’re welcome!
I have kia Sorrento with 55000km
I have 2 questions
First can I replace oil transmission for 1 time or replace 2 time after 2 day
Second how much quantity 4.25 liter
Sorry, I'm not sure what you are asking in the first question. If you get 1 Gallon (4 quarts) of fluid that will be enough. you pour it all in, then drain out the excess, just like I show in the video. Thanks for watching!
Where did you buy this lift??
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Thoughts on transmission fluid….Hyundai obviously calls for their own proprietary fluid. Any issues using the max life? I can’t see how it would make a difference.
If it gives you peace of mind, absolutely use OEM fluid.
In real life, this works great. The Santa Fe in this video is actually my mother-in-laws and there are no issues whatsoever so ever.
I service a lot of transmissions and use the Valvoline fluid when it’s listed on the bottle. I’ve never had an issue.
My santa fe is stalling when i stop. I know my vehicle needs transmission fluid. But why would it stall? Please help
Is it throwing any codes? One of the first things I’d do is clean the throttle body.
I put two gallons of 4.5 quartz but I makes sudden jerk sound like it enters gear 3 with force. I gets shocked because of the sudden jerk hut sound.😢
If I'm understanding you correctly, it sounds like you have put way too much fluid in it. Make sure you follow the procedure to drain off the excess fluid. See if that helps with the problem.
I have 2014 santa fe and would like to ask the interval mileage before changing ATF?
Every 60K miles.
instead of checking the temp could I leave the car running for a while, maybe like 5-10 minutes?
If you let it idle for around 15 minutes you should be in the ballpark.
Thanks for the video and perfect step by step. I was thinking about getting one of those HF code readers and was wondering what you thought of yours. I need to get one that reads and resets abs for this santa fe sport, got a faulty speed sensor but not sure which to replace...wyt?
You’re welcome!
It’s been a great scanner. For the price it has a lot of capabilities, and it’s easy to use. I’d totally recommend it.
Thanks for sharing this! Had it done a few times at the dealer, next one I’m doing at home myself. Looks pretty straightforward. Take care!
You're welcome! It really isn't hard to do.
Do you need to get the Trasmition down in order to change oil
Filter ?
No, the filter is under the front cover. You would just have to remove the front cover.
I bought 2011 Toyota Camry with 97,000 miles can I change my transmission fluid is there going to be any problem?
Of course can’t make specific recommendations without seeing your car in person, but I would not be worried about servicing it. I’d be more worried about not servicing it.
I have the 2016 santa fe sport 2.4L, is this same procedure?
Yes, it’s the same.
How do you change the transmussion filterr Hyundai santa fe
The filter is located under the front cover. This video doesn't cover changing it, but I did link a filter in the description.
You did not change the transmission fluid. Sorry! The total capacity is 7.3 liters! All the dirty, burned fluid left in the torque converter and in the valve body. To do a complete fluid exchange you need to get the old fluid out on the cooling line outlet and fill the new fluid in through the inlet, with running engine, using the transmissions own pump.
I can assure you that this was in fact the transmission fluid that I changed. :)
Please don't wait until it is dirty and burnt before servicing it. The procedure that I showcase in this video is the procedure that the Hyundai / Kia service manual recommends. What you are describing is a transmission flush. To do a flush I would recommend using at least 3 gallons, but that's not what's covered in this video and not what Hyundai / Kia recommends.
Thanks for watching!
Right on point, Bennie. Transmission flush is never recommended to do.
Tengo una kia sportage 2013 AWD y el aceite no quiere pasar por que por ese agujero del tornillo plastico es bien reducido, el aceite pasa demasiado lento.
Como le hago para que pase mas rapido
Cuanto de aceite lleva esta caja, si solo estoy cambiando aceite
I’m not sure if the Sportage uses the same transmission or not but all the info including the capacity is listed in the video description. When filling it, you just have to pour slowly. There’s no fast way of doing it.
Love the video! Probably the most informative on this ATF drain and fill procedure. I just want to let you know there is a Hyundai TSB 21-AT-006H which states that the gear should be in Park with the engine running for the fluid check. Please correct me if this is wrong as I couldn't find an updated TSB that says to put in Neutral.
Also, there is a picture in TSB 16-AT-004 that shows what the stream should look like -- still very subjective though...
Thank you! And thanks for the additional information. I will add those notes to the video description.
@@bennieaust So, what is final decision: should the shift level be in Neutral position or in Park. Please clarify, as it is very important. Thank you.
@@stanislav9608Hyundai says either gear position will get you the same result.
Would it be the same transmission and procedure for the 2013 Kia Sorento LX 3.5L AWD?
Yes, it is the same.
Do you have a shop? Where in MN are you?
I do. I’m located in Belle Plaine
Very thorough! Thank you.
Thanks!
Hola tengo la.mism maquina ese el aceite recomendado y lo otro no pasa nada si no se cambia el filtro
Hola, you don’t have to change the filter. If you change the fluid on the recommended intervals you will most likely never need to change the filter.
3.8-3.9L came out for me
That sounds about right.
Yes - you did it with the engine running - so far you are the only one on youtube to do this procedure right.
Thanks Man
👍 I’m by no means perfect, but it is annoying how much bad information is out there.
Not seeing that it should be in neutral when checking the level. Using the hilton manual.
2018 Santa fe
@@wg1408 it should be checked in park or neutral, while running, at the correct temp.
@@bennieaustyeah I just finished and it took a whole gallon plus a little. First check at around 125 temp with IR had a small dribble. Took it out for a drive and ran good. Decided to check it again when I got back and temp was over the check limit at like 150 and it was coming out steady. I'll wait until it cools down some and check again I think. Afraid it might be low a little.
@@wg1408it may be a little low if you drained some at 150 degrees. No big deal, just add a little more and recheck.
Is the procedure the same for the 8 speed trans in my 2020 Sorento as the previous 6 speed in the 2019-2019 models? Everything looks the same on the exterior of the transmission. Also after watching several videos on changing this trans fluid some say check the level plug drainage with the engine off & you say with it running? Which is correct or does it matter? Good video, thanks for the info.
I’m not sure on the procedure for the 2020 with the 8 speed although I would bet it very similar. The capacity could be slightly different and the temperature could also be slightly different. Beyond that it’s the same basic procedure.
It is supposed to be checked while idling. Checking it while not idling will get you a lower trans fluid level. It does make a difference. Some of the older Hondas are the only ones I can recall off the top of my head that you need to check while not running. There could be others, that’s just all I can recall of the top of my head.
@@bennieaust Thanks for your reply.
My Santa Fe says it takes 7.5 quarts of transmission fluid
Without knowing what year it is or what transmission it has I can only generalize, but there is often a discrepancy between what the manual call out for and what is actually needed for a drain and refill service. A lot of times the manual will list the full capacity of a transmission, which is drastically different from the quantity needed for a drain and a refill like I feature in this video.
To be safe, you should have 7.5qts on hand though.
Thanks . I have a 2015 Santa Fe 2.4 Manuel calls for 7.5 quarts I bought 2 gallons to be safe going to drain it tomorrow
Best of luck with the project!
Thats the thing most people here probably don't realize.
Trans have a 'factory fill' level, and a 'drain and fill' level.
Drain and fill will might be 3.5-4qts, with an additional 1/2/3 qts that are not drainable remaining.
Thus, doing a simple drain and fill is still going to leave 1/2/3 qts of old fluid mixed with the new, fresh 3.5-5 qts.
Ideally, you'd take it for a drive to mix all the fluid up, and then do another drain and fill of 3.5-4 qts, which will remove even more of the old trans fluid/crap ( and also a lot of that fresh fluid you just put in).
Final simple example: Trans take 8 qts from factory, drain and fill is 4 qts.
You do a drain and fill on a 100K trans, now you've got 4 qts clean fluid and 4 qts old/dirty fluid in the system.
Entire fluid is now 50% new/clean.
After a nice drive and cool down, you do another drain and fill.
You replace 4 qts with new, fresh fluid.
Entire fluid is now 75% new/clean.
A third drain and fill if done, would leave you with 87.5% new/clean.
I’ve never understood why mechanics charge 350+ for this type of job
Simply because they can. It's a great way to save some money if you don't mind tackling it yourself.
@@bennieaust I actually did. I just worry is there another option to check the temperature without this 300+ dollars devices.
@@kosta2177 there are some cheaper option available. I don’t have any experience with them, and I wasn’t using them in the video, so I just linked the one I used that I know works well.
@@bennieaust thank you for the video and all responses
@@kosta2177 your welcome!
Very good video.
Thanks!
So no transmission oil filter change or is that another "dealer only" option?
There is a filter if you drop the pan. If you stay on top of fluid drain and refills you may never need to actually drop the pan and change the filter. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't discourage you from dropping the pan and changing the filter. At most I would recommend a filter change every other fluid change.
Here's a link to the filter and pan gasket:
amzn.to/3kCAwMw
@@bennieaust thanks for the reply...yeah I think I would go with the oil and filter change. The dirty drain plug would be bugging me.
On most Hyundai and Kia transmissions in North America there is no bottom transmission pan, only a side transmission pan to access the valve body. In this case, the transmission has to come out to replace the filter via the torque converter side. In many other countries, they have a bottom pan that can be removed to access the filter but there is no gasket. You will need to use RTV.
@@davetravels9273 Eso eso eso , si quieres cambiar el filtro particamente tendrias que baja la caja y desarmala y volver a intalarla , mucho jaleo .
No transmission filter?
There is one, but this video just covers the Hyundai recommend drain and refill procedure. The replacement filter is linked in the description if you are interested in changing that as well.
I don't think that dripping is gonna make any difference IMO I will pour the four Quarts and leave it as it is 😁
That dripping confirms that it's at the right level. If you don't check yours, you won't know.
Dang, its gotta suck when ya make a video and explain how, and why, in detail, you are going something in a certain way, and what that means keeping your engine/transmission operating as close to the engineers design specs, and then have someone come along and say "Well, derpy-derp, I'm just gonna add the same amount of oil/trans fluid as came out and consider it good!"....
@@boots7859lol, you have no idea how many times I’ve had to explain this to people in the comments. Everyone is always interested in doing it every possible way except the right way. Haha
Is it 3.5 qts or the whole gallon?
I got a 2016 santa fe about to do the fluid change on it but don’t have the obd to check the temp on it so i want to put just enough to not mess with the level valve
@@Elrodriguez666 , I think the way I would do it if I didn’t have a scan tool is this:
Put the full gallon in, let it idle for 15 minutes, open the level check plug and drain excess fluid.
No harm in running it over filled during the warm-up.?
@@cliffordcmayhewiii6549 no harm within reason. Don’t put 2 gallons in it. If you put 1 gallon in it you’ll be fine.
I put two gallons of 4.5 quartz but I makes sudden jerk sound like it enters gear 3 with force. I gets shocked because of the sudden jerk hut sound.😊
Man those GDI injectors are clacky
Sometimes the audio in videos doesn't come though very accurately, but this direct injection engine definitely sounds clattery underneath. :(
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It is exactly the same. It’s made by Innova and rebranded. :)
The 5610 is actually cheaper on Amazon right now.