What is Suboxone Withdrawal Like
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- What is Suboxone withdrawal like? Suboxone is a medication used to aid opioid addiction and alcoholism recovery. Suboxone is part naltrexone and part buprenorphine and helps to reduce opioid and alcohol cravings. Suboxone also provides relief from withdrawal symptoms when used correctly. One major concern when taking suboxone is taking it long-term and/or misuse of Suboxone can lead to suboxone addiction or overdose. When you stop taking Suboxone, you can experience withdrawal symptoms similar to other opioids and a tapering protocol may assist to prevent the symptoms. The safest way to detox from suboxone is with a medical program that does not rely on medication as a crutch. Detoxing will allow your body to eliminate the opiates from your system completely. Drug detoxing in a medical facility will ensure your withdrawal symptoms are monitored and treated appropriately. Suboxone withdrawal symptoms and side effects can include nausea and vomiting, depression, irritability and anger, intense cravings for suboxone or any opiate, fevers and chills, painful recurring headaches, muscle aches, problems sleeping, feeling lethargic, digestive problems, profuse sweats, anxiety, and/or problems with concentration. Most suboxone withdrawal symptoms should subside within a few days after the opioids clear the body; however, some withdrawal symptoms can continue for weeks or months, which is why professional help and support can be very beneficial. Suboxone can only assist with the physical dependency part of addiction and does not address the psychological aspects of addiction. Studies have shown that long-term treatment has improved the chances of continued sobriety. Northpoint Recovery is here to help you start your Day 1 www.northpointrecovery.com/co...
you know they are talking about opiate withdrawal when it takes two different lists to include all the symptoms. They should just say "hell on earth".
definitely!!!
Amen. Pray for me
It certiantly is the closes thing to hell!
It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for always feeling sick all the time.
Additionally they also missed one of the worst side effects, RLS
the best way to describe suboxone w/d is like having the worst flu and body aches you could imagine while going through a mental breakdown. the hopelessness, depression, and anxiety is insane. so glad im off that garbage.
I've been on it for almost 15 years. Don't think I'll ever be able to stop. It sucks.
@@bobbycone2 I was on it for years. Not as long as you but but I know how u feel. I felt it was impossible to get off. But trust me if I can do it you can too. If you decide to get off just do a slow taper. I got all the way down to .25mgs per day. Its definitely possible. U just have to genuinely want to and stick to ur taper plan. I wish u luck friend
@@michaelspoto8720 im from Germany i dont No if you have this medic in the US me and much other junks here takin lyrica (pregabalin) for the withdrawl from Heroine,subs,methadone,polamidon etc. it Kills over 98percents completly no restless legs sweating pain etc(sry for the english)
@@maxschweisser8864 thats the same thing as gabapentin i believe. i took that when i was coming off suboxone. it didnt really help me but maybe i didnt take enough. i was taking 300mg capsules. i didnt really notice any improvement after i took it other than maybe a little more tired.
@@michaelspoto8720 Gabapentin is crap, pregabalin is 15 times more potent then Gabapentin... but be carefull, dont mix it With opioids. in germany we have much less Benzos in the drug scene, but much more lyrica. Because in the Mix, the opiods kick in Like the First time but you have to high dose lyrica for that... And there are much more OD Deaths since them... But a problem could be lyrica is not a cheap med, in germany the healtcare sells for all the meds. But you have to buy it for your self i think ?! (sry for the english again😅)
I withdrew for 24 days coming off this crap. I'll be one year clean in 7 days. Don't do it.
How did you get rid of the addiction???
@@gisselxoxomendez4200 you don't get rid of it. You learn to cope and place your energy in to useful things.
@@gisselxoxomendez4200
I'm in day 4th of withdrawal bup .
I found taking the Lyrica , helps you to get rid of most the symptoms , I did it couple of years ago but ... 😔 ,This time will be last time.
Finally enough I am not addicted to these things I have heaps in my drawer through right next to me- I now have gotten a hold of a prescription for codeine and I want them to work so how long does it take for this to leave your system? Yes I don’t like Suboxone I don’t find them One tiny bit addicted to them as everybody else seems to. My doctor can’t believe it but oh my gosh I cannot resist pain pills no way no way
Caps it’s all mental and very much physical especially when you have chronic back pain and I’m getting older and getting worse the pain that is me as a person I think I’m getting better😃🙏🏻🙏🏻 God bless to all of you who suffer with this🌹🌹🌹
@@PassionJo777 I'm a little confused on the question. Suboxone has a half life of 72 to 84 hours where codeine has a half life of 3 to 6 hours.
Some lady talking about suboxine withdrawal who no never took it lol
Lol i said same shit can u imaine her withdrawing LOL
Im sure the doctor who prescribes it never took it.
ABSOLUTELY!!!...
On line I read that the withdrawal only last's 2 day's. WTF?? Are they trying to lie on purpose or is it that the people who make this drug don't want to tell the truth or no one would use it. I was in the clinical trial for this drug, and have been on it now for over 15 year's because of a broken neck and becoming addicted to the opiates they gave me. I can't come off it and have given it the best try anyone can claim more than once. It has changed my personality and has actually given me anxiety that I never had before taking this drug so now I am also on Xanax to curb the horrible panic attack's. If you and your Dr. have made plans for you to begin using this drug be VERY careful NOT to take it for any longer than the withdrawal's last from the opiates you are trying to come off of, if not you just trade one nasty drug for another and this one isn't going to give you any breaks with the withdrawal's. I wish I had never heard of this monster.
Lmfao
Out of ALL opioids I have taken in the past 3 decades... Suboxone & methadone has been the worst! Physically - yes it does suck but it is manageable... Mentally - pure hell that drags on day after day, month after month, and even year after year. I found 3 clean years of being totally sober and realized never let your guard down... because the second you do, you’ll be back in the boat I’m in... now trying to get back off suboxone after 14 years. It seems hopeless and I am starting to see I am gonna need serious professional help. Opioid life sucks so much.
Acid my friend. or mushrooms therapy is for the long run
Bro get kratom. I got 2 bags of 250 grams and am prolly gonna get 1 more. Day 14 and I don't think kratom contributes to the same receptors so it's not like trading one addiction for the other. They say get past day 18 and you're on to something.
If you can live a normal life and work and not suffer with suboxone why even quit dude you just gonna geel like shit
@@jackmeovf4010 actually you not living like normal....im in Suboxone now and i get pain like always want go to toilet to pee...i feel depression for this pain
@@greenteaclock3494 it doesn't work on the same receptors? How did it go for you?
I was on this drug for a year. The withdrawal lasted about a month. It was The worst detox experience I have ever had and I detoxed off fent before. The only thing that helped after 4 weeks was forcing myself to get out and do something. Once I got out and about (went tubing down the poudre river in Colorado) I found that most of the symptoms I felt deteriorated rapidly. Hope this helps someone going through that hell. It’s hard to force yourself to be active but it was by far the most helpful thing that I did. Also it DOES END. Long withdrawal like this makes things feel hopeless but it isn’t. Stay strong peeps
Thank you Cooper! Your comment is the one I needed to hear. I am coming off of Oxy after 15 years because of Herniated discs and a tumor on my spinal cord. I am 63 years old and am on day 4 of withdrawals (for any that have beat it and are off of it, I apologize for possibly bringing back horrible memories). Last night I was about ready to leave here, you know! So I called the crisis hotline and was taken to the hospital. The doctor gave me Suboxone and gave me the information for an outpatient clinic, but after your comment Cooper I believe that the one 8mg sublingual they gave me last night/this morning is going to be my last. I don’t judge them, but it seems to me after 63 years on earth that doctors want you as customers like they’re selling us fruits and vegetables. I was able to spend some hours on my stoop out back my house and I know that you’re right about being as active as possible. Thank you brother.
@@kimmysplayhouse yes. I tapered down to .25 mg per day over the course of 1.5 months. Once that last little sliver was gone it really started
I’ll be of oxy and fent 2 years on Jan 10 2022
I quit cold Turkey
The fent withdraw was so horrible
I never used suboxone cuz I put my self into a withdraw and I always got a weird feeling from them
But as months went on of me being clean
My girl was on the suboxone cuz she was on percs with me too
Never the fent just me
But she went to a clinic before I did and got on the strips
So it was around me in my early stages of getting clean
About 6 months in being clean
I took a sliver of a sub and it let me sleep like the old days
Now I take a peice every nite
And I honestly don’t think I will withdraw if stopped but my mental makes me fear of finding out
It’s the same feeling as not having the fent or oxy
I been trying not to take it at nite but then I can’t sleep and I work very early so I end up taking a small peice just to fall asleep
Trying to catch this shit before it turns into something I’ve already battled for many many years
Honestly wish I was smarter at the time and never start taking the subs while being clean off everything
No weed
No liq
No drugs In any way or form
I’ve seen people that was on strips and stop getting theirs and then the people they knew that was ok em either stopped em or got out of that persons life and wen back to other shit to prevent the sickness
Im thinking about taking a week vacation from work so I can have 9 days of suffering(smh) and be done with these subs
Cuz they make you feel the same way as any other drug
When I was clean clean I felt so good and it was for only 6-7 months
But just the person and my character was more pure
Being honest in any bad situation is the first step of recovering
We all battle this shit as humans on this earth in this moment of life we live in
But stay strong and always remember god will never put you threw something that he knows your not capable of handling
Stay blessed up and stay safe out side
It’s getting hectic more and more by the day no matter what time zone of the country your in
I'm on suboxne 3 full years in 3 months im scared af
@@craigmackssj3680 I've been taking the shit since May 2015 so I'm bout 6yrs deep in this shit. And I have tapered myself down to about 1.5 to 2.mgs a day. And when I skip a day or 2 I'm in a living hell. At this point im thinking I'll be on this shit till I die.
Take it from me who've been on Suboxone for years. Just cut the strips smaller and smaller every 2 days or so it may take once a week to cut the strip smaller well this is going on you will have hot flashes and possibly stomach cramps I usually only get hot flashes with some edgy anxiety feelings but eventually you will walk your tolerance down you could do this without even the doctor knowing just cut each strip to a lower dose by calculating the milligram strip and how many cuts per strip is the milligram and you'll be fine it may take a full year to fully come off a high dose but you'll eventually make it blessings to all who are trying to get off Suboxone.
thanks.....and wish me luck.
@@dronereviewman9580 good luck! 🙏🏼
Thanks
You shouldn't cut them depending on brand and dosage you could accidentally increase absorption vastly and cause issues. I've had stories from doctors that have seen this first hand. Albeit on high patches 35mg 52.5mg etc on 5mg patches I wouldn't be worried. But I definitely wouldn't be recommending it online for people to try. Lol.
@@DstumpJ patches and strips aren’t the sane thing. He’s talking the sublingual strips. Docs do recommend cutting them .
The best way to get off illegal addictive drugs is to get on legal addictive drugs.
Actually its naloxone lol
Thank You for watching our video "What is Suboxone Withdrawal Like". We really appreciate when users engage with us in conversation. Our sister location Evergreen at Northpoint has a great blog post that explains the difference between Naloxone and Naltrexone. You can find it at this link: www.evergreendrugrehab.com/blog/naloxone-vs-naltrexone/
Thanks again, for watching!
Lol Cassandra is right. It's definitely naloxone and not naltrexone. Quite a difference in the two drugs. If this business doesn't even know what medicines are in suboxone, i wouldn't trust them to treat anything
The Naloxone is their excuse for it not being addicting. Just because something is not as euphoric, does not mean that it does not have horrible effects on the body.
Northpoint Recovery - Idaho scary when even the people who are supposed to know about the drugs know less than addicts
Actually its buprenorphine
Been on this crap for 10 years now, I’ve finally tapered down to taking 3 pieces the size of a piece of hair a day, and honestly I feel the same as I did when I was taking a half to a whole a day, took about a week and my body got u used to this low dose and it has helped me make the ones I have last way longer and also has helped me taper @ the same time, also being on this low of dose has somewhat allowed my body and mind to get back closer to what it feels like to living sober and I think that’s a big part of getting off of them for good, I haven’t got any type of high from them in a long long time so now I think if I can just finally man up and get through the physical withdrawals I will never be tempted to get back on them or pain pills because there really isn’t even a high to miss or crave
Good luck Bro.
@@jackiebonds4359 thanks!!!
You are exactly correct ..its pretty easy to taper off these if u want to .I can do 8mg or 4mgs no difference ...it works its the answer to kicking shit .I've tapered off 4 times 10yrs .I enjoy them tho .4mgs a day all u need.
13 years I fucking hate it
I'm pretty much doing the same as you.. Even though I may withdrawn when I finally try and kick this shit got good. No matter what though I'll never touch a pain pill again in my life. I broke my ankle thinking I could bmx after 30yrs of not riding a bike. And my wife was like you gotta go to the hospital. I'm like no. They'll only give me pain pills. And I'll take them. Nope. Ibuprofen. That got me through.
Suboxone withdrawal, gruelling and difficult, it takes 4 weeks minimum before u begin to start feeling healthy again. Severe lethargy, severe anxiety, high blood pressure, depression, insomnia, confusion and difficulty concentrating. Diarrhoea. Best of luck, I've been through the whole process from beginning to end, more than once. You're in for a "tough time". ISOLATION and LACK OF SUPPORT is dangerous btw. ❤️✌🏻🙏🏻
U can never truly know what it's like unless u go through it yourself. In short, it's truly terrifying.
I'm definitely not taken advice from someone who doesn't even know that it is NALOXONE not naltrexone
Thank You for watching our video "What is Suboxone Withdrawal Like". We really appreciate when users engage with us in conversation. Our sister location Evergreen at Northpoint has a great blog post that explains the difference between Naloxone and Naltrexone. You can find it at this link: www.evergreendrugrehab.com/blog/naloxone-vs-naltrexone/
Thanks again, for watching!
Northpoint Recovery - Idaho do you say that for every comment
@@Xxrocknrollgod Robots with dollar signs is their eyes. Same old story. Inhuman "do-gooders". This entire video is an ad. Nothing more.
@@Northpointrecovery nobody should do a recovery program with you. you don't even know the meds you are helping people to get off of. for gods sake.
First, its essentially impossible to overdose on suboxone...
Second, it doesnt matter if you taper, it doesn't matter if you take it short term, OR if you take it as prescribed...
Heroin withdrawal is M7CH easier and MUCH MUCH shorter than withdrawal from subutex OR suboxone..
Ritalin is the solution for every addiction except porn addiction! If you become addicted to Ritalin, watch pornography! I am addiction specialist and I believe Suboxone is for withdraw symptoms only
So true. At least the regular opioids , you only go through a hell for 2 good days or 5 but with Suboxone is wayyy longer
Takes about a month for withdrawals to subside… evil stuff for the greater good. Saved many lives
There is w/d but it is not as bad as w/d from strong opioids.
@@B_Bodziak you’re nuts. Suboxone withdrawals are by far worse
On day 14 of just my PHYSICAL withdrawal symptoms from this stuff. Don't let anyone tell you it's less than heroin withdrawal. I keep begging for the 4-7 days of H withdrawal. And for your sake, be careful taking this drug even to get off hard drugs. take it short term to get off opiates and then STOP. don't take long term I regret it so much guys. 16mg to 0mg taper in 6 days. Good luck to all trying to kick this stuff! You're not alone!!
Yep wish I’d never touched it! I’ve never had any problems with addictions had a motorcycle accident and my leg was broken and had to have rods put in it the ortho put me on perc 7.5’s after getting released from Him he sent me to a pain management place.. they put me on my perc 7.5’s after about 8 months I told them I wanted to stop they said well we will have to move you over to Suboxone at 16mg daily which I never got up that high.. I took one strip in the morning and half in the evening at 3:00 sometimes I may take alittle more but never 2 of them! After 3 years they still have me on them
I don’t always say I’m ready to come off and they would make some excuse that why they couldn’t help me get off of them! So last Saturday I only took half of a strip in the morning and alittle line off the other piece say 10% of the other strip in the evening so I basically dropped 1 complete strip and maybe alittle more right off! And it’s been really rough this is going on seven days which I feel a lot better but my stomach cramps is awesome ! They come and go and it seems like it gets worse at night no diarrhea at all but it’s just my stomach cramps are unbearable! So I like reading everyone else’s story’s on here did you have similar withdrawals ?
@@cdpperformance2613 yea man I'm completely in the clear now. It took me about a month to get a decent night's sleep. I had severe mental depression and brain fog for a while. That took a couple months. The diarrhea, cold flashes, insomnia, restless legs took about 4 weeks to go away. And when it was over, it was over. It was weird for me because I woke up just feeling ok one day after I FINALLY got some sleep. Like my body just reset and kicked it all.. it will end bro. It's just miserable for now. I feel you. It's so annoying to not be able to get comfortable too. The stomach cramps and constant trips to the bathroom with cold flash goosebumps sucks. Keep pushing. Don't even take a small piece. I am totally happy off of them now.
@@daglawrence what dose did u jump off at? 😳
Living life dependent on a drug is NOT the way to live life even if it isn't giving you problems at the moment. I live my life in constant worry that one day they will not have the drug and I'll be left in mind bending withdrawal for who knows how long. even a daily dose of 2 mg will keep you addicted. Also ( aside from my point) NEVER tell anyone you take this drug or you will have unwanted visitor's coming to your door all the time asking for your med's, I just went thru that yesterday with a person I knew from AA and they just wouldn't relent. I almost had to call the police to have them removed from my property and now they are threatening me over my not giving them what they wanted.
That’s crazy call the police on them
What a piece of shit that person is, they need a good beating up.
I hope it worked out for you, 🙌
I was on methadone for eleven years and I switched to Suboxone and been on that now for three years.
I clicked right off as soon as she said suboxone is part naltrexone 🤦♂️. Like seriously? You’re supposed to be a recovery program and you don’t even know the correct drug combination in suboxone? 😔 naloxone not naltrexone. Yes they’re both opioid antagonists but jeez come on.
If your on it long term brutal. Its not as bad pain wise as heroine or percs, but it lasts way longer like 2 to 3x longer.
Withdrawing from it now quit on being on fours detox in a month coming up six months clean proud of myself
taper 25% down every month/ 2 months. do it every OTHER day in the beginning, for maybe 2 weeks. example: 8 mg a day dose. cut to 6mg one day, 8mg the next for a couple weeks then stick to 6mg for the rest until comfortable. then cut to 6mg one day and 4 or 5 mg the next for a bit until comfortable... and so on. slow and steady you can do it! I’m down to 3mg a day from 10mg using this method.
Been on this since 2005 and I take .25mg a day. Feels the same as when I was taking 8-24. Saved my life but I’m wondering at what cost now?
They tell you what it helps with and do not mention the dangerous harm associated with the drug.
I've been on subs for 7 years. I just can't seem to taper. I obviously get no buzz or nods or anything from it, but i just can't seem to taper down.
this shows u the disconnect between the truth and the generic truth. it was hell on earth
I was on 12mg for 4 years. I’ve tapered down to about 1/5mg off an 8mg film… how long does this last in your system? I’m having a surgery soon and will need temp pain meds. If I have to I’ll get back on suboxone temp but I’d rather stay off it…
the diffinition of eternaty is from when the opiods where off to when the withdrawal symptoms stops - this is the most horrendous thing a person can go through!
I take it for pain. Been taking it since i was 15. 19 now... I had the withdrawal happen before tho. It dont clear in a few days that shit last so long. Im still on it. Withdrawl from it is hell. But if i dont take it i cant move. I got titanium in 8 places. Rods and shit like that.
Suboxone helps you with pain? I have been on it for over 10 years and I have never gotten high or noticed any pain relief. In the begining I got a very strong sense of well being but not a high.
@@riceburnter6982 Yes, it does help with pain because buprenorphine is an opioid. The naloxone in it blocks the euphoria.
suboxone withdrawal is 1000000% times worse than heroin withdrawal. the pain is much worse and it can last literally months even when you taper with a doctor, it's brutal
Good info
Suboxone is not used for alcohol dependancy and it does not contain naltrexone, it contains nalaxone which blocks opioid receptors if the medication is injected. Also its very hard to "overdose" on buprenorphine, it is an opioid but its only a partial opioid agonist, it doesnt cause the same respratory depression or euphoria that other opioids do. Please do your research before giving out inaccurate information.
Had to scroll too far to find this..can't believe a professional recovery service would get that wrong.. Wow.🙄 Oh wait, yes I can..pftt
Nalaxibe kills the dopamine thisnis why it’s so hard to get of suboxine no coming of strength Buprenorphine and subtext is much east with tapper than subs nalaxone is scary shit trust me
I’ve been depressed off this stuff. withdrawing is the worst when off this and just to think i’m 16 doing subs makes my mentality worsen over the past 7 months man…
Thinking of you. Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Long term use of this medication when used as prescribed is not bad. I do not know anyone who overdosed when using this form of recovery correctly. In fact, making people feel guilty for taking this medication is causing problems for people, and addiction is not about whether a person is good or bad, or "strong enough" to go through recovery with no meds. This medication helps many addicts stay sober, live productive lives, and recover from trauma. There are studies that support this. It's fine if a person who has been on medication assisted treatment for a while feels ready to get off of it. But only if they really are ready. The whole point of the medication is to help people get used to living a more normal, stable and sober life. And not to get on it and quit after a month. Because, it's important that a person have time to get on their feet, and stay on their feet.
I don’t know what your talkin about the problem is finally getting off the meds for good withdrawals are nightmare no matter how long or slow u tapper down or how little your down to you still suffer way to much, i think pharms want people to stay on it indefinitely
Ok. Hate to be the odd one here. I took suboxone for 8 months to help with back pain before surgery. I tapered down over a 10 day period and had minimal. if any, serious withdrawal problems. I've withdrawn from Percocet and methadone so I get it, but I just didn't have any problems!
I'm glad to hear this. One 8mg strip lasts me 5-7 days, then I have a week off then repeat. I have been doing this for several months and need to stop because I'm finding in the week I'm not on it, I feel so depressed, unmotivated, bored, lethargic and flat I can barely function. And here I was thinking it was a miracle drug that "cured" my depression when I first began using it. It delivered what my poxy SSRI promised. But with a price. Now I need to stop altogether and I'm scared. What if I never feel happiness or pleasure ever again.? I'm so worried 😟 😔
I actually went to this facility for opiod detox and I waa detoxing so bad tha tg they ended up giving me suboxone and it worked great then abruptly took me off and i went back into a bad detox. I ended up leaving because I was so upset.
The first hint was them calling medicated maintenance a “crutch”. There is no 1 way to treat drug/alcohol dependence and they literally are saying there is.
It's also not just a few days it takes upto 72hrs to leave your system because of its affinity to bind hard onto receptors.
Even at 72 hrs, it's not completely cleared from your body because it has such a long half life.
@@B_Bodziak the half life is around 30/40 hours. 72 you could be correct for some people but it's generally considered eliminated by this time in the majority of people.
So in 72 hours, it’s completely gone? I was on 12mg and narrowed it down to 1/5th of an 8mg strip…
It's a shame that doctors would create something that's just as bad or even worse than the drug that you're coming off of
Not really. It's actually very smart. It helps your brain detatch from the rituals of your addiction to get used to not using. The receptors are being humped yes, but humped not fucked lol
Ive never heard of anybody overdosing on buprenorphine like the girl said in this video. Im sure it's possible but you would have to take a very large amount.
Yeah, or have never taken an opiate in your life/have no tolerance. I've saw people take them as a teenager thinking it was like a percocet, a slow torture puke fest ensued for like 2 days for them.
She's an actor I believe, reading her lines.
They've got it all wrong here. Suboxone is not used for alcohol withdrawal, and it also doesn't include naltrexone, it includes naloxone
It took me nearly 2 months until i wasn’t felling withdrawls from suboxone anymore. This stuff is really hard to kick not gonna lie....
How much were you on? What was your taper like in mg's? Asking because I am considering quiting subs.
@@5jjt why u wanna quit just wondering if it help you why everyone want off it
@Fast Internet yeah i know a dude never took hydrocodone or anything except here n there a dude gave him a 8mg sub strip n he took whole thing he said he felt sick as fuck for 3 days sleeping nonstop throw up
@Fast Internet i been on hydrocodone for like 15 years 10 years worse than the first 5 been thinkng about suboxone cuz my friend got off pills n now he on subs with his girl i guess 4mg a day is good for him im on like 40mg norco a day just to get by dont even do shit tho u know just help me get thru work with a little motivation
@Fast Internet yeah i cant see myself not needing a opiate to feel normal again i tried quitting i been thru withdrawal its not good n my brain is just not same agter all the years of opiate
I’ve been on this shit for the past 3 yrs I wanna get off but it’s hard wanna just be some where else 🤢🙏🏾
TH-cam MegaDosing Vitamin C. It helps
Can Suboxone cause fatal overdose and how high a dose would that take?
I know what you're trying to say, and I hate to be "that" person, but you said something inaccurate here, and I think it's important. You DO NOT have to be **addicted** to Suboxone/Subutex (or any other opioid, benzo, psych med, etc. for that matter) to experience withdrawal symptoms. The word "addiction" has a meaning, and you're technically misusing it - there's a difference between physical dependence and actual addiction. Lots of people are physically dependent that aren't addicted, but everyone that's addicted is physically dependent. And this is important to note, because people that are not addicted and know that they aren't, can often assume they will not experience withdrawal if they stop taking the medication - but they will. You will go through withdrawal if you've been taking it long enough regardless of whether or not you're addicted.
Sorry, not trying to be obnoxious, but I think that's important for people to understand because I've seen several people suddenly stop taking opioids and benzos and such because they weren't addicted and assumed that meant they'd be fine if they just suddenly stopped taking it - and that wasn't the case, obviously, and they had a very bad time with that, as you can imagine. And they didn't understand what was happening and thought something was wrong with them and that they were dying. And a lot of people that are not addicted (but *are* physically dependent) could be in actual danger because they could stop cold turkey and have problems as a result of not tapering or seeking proper medical help, especially with certain things (like benzos) where the withdrawal can be much more dangerous than it is with opioids.
Best comment.
You are 100% correct. I think this video is geared towards the addict not those just physically dependant.
Pray to God i hate it. I get off i will never touched a pill are. Im start going to church. Love u God Amen.
So basically there’s nothing you can do to avoid pain from withdrawals, this is so fuxcked. I’m on 3mg a day but can not quit to save my life
This video has incorrect information! Seek info from a reputable source!
It’s terrible to get off of! Little over 7 months off that crap! The PAWS linger for quite a bit.
Been on and off opiates for over 30 years. Suboxone withdrawal is a cake walk. I am back on it now simply because sobriety sucks. Although I drink much less while on it.
Lucien Graves maybe Sobriety will get hooked on suboxone because you suck.
Ryan Crump agreed. I’m 17 months off Suboxone and I’m so happy to be free! I actually got a channel and documented everything and still make videos nearly everyday. I’m so happy to be off that crap for good
Ryan Crump -Im with you on that man!
NaLOXone and NalTREXone are NOT the same. Suboxone is buprenorphine and naloxone (narcan) used for opioid dependence and sometimes straight bup in different forms for pain management, naltrexone is used for alcohol dependence and sometimes pain management.
It saved my life
IF THE VIDEO IS A BUSINESS, (AKA an Advertisement). THe ADvice is Likey INCORRECT
Firstly, it's impossible to OD on suboxone..look up ceiling effect.
Secondly you become dependent on and not addicted to suboxone.
Yep, she never went through it.
I started from yesterday it's 2nd day and horrible lose stool today i have to face several abdominal pain , stomach ache
Shit.. Not with my insurance. They only cover for 5 days of a program. Then I have to deal with the withdrawal all on my on after I'm released. It's ridiculous 🤦
You act like this is a monthly thing you do
@Ryan Crump Hi Ryan. It's nice to see someone who cares about others, knows what he's talking about, and taking time out of their day to offer encouragement and ideas to people in the thread that are sick, desperate, and in need of hope. Going through sub withdrawal as I type this and thought I'd give you a shout out. Thanks for being a good human brother.
My insurance cuts off this month, I've been using Suboxone for 3 years and I have to quit cold turkey. Gonna be one hell of a ride!
@@FearEngine suboxone withdrawl like hell ... more bad than withdrawl other opiad .... it take long time for recovery from withdrawl...mybe a week or month or years..i very regret take this suboxone .... i 2 month in suboxone but feel bad and always get sick and depression
I’m on day 16 of withdrawal, after 12 years. This is my third time getting off of this crap and it’s the worst yet. I refuse to put that shit in my body again.
How are you?
I heard suboxone don’t give you withdrawals can anyone help me out , I’m on fentynal and I was going to take it for a week then quit cold turkey or does suboxone not work like that and give you bad withdrawals ?
Suboxone DOES give you withdrawal. If you stop taking fentanyl and get on suboxone, you’ll just have a worse withdrawal. If you plan on starting a Suboxone program, you need to be clean off all opiates for 24-48 hours or else you will go into intense withdrawl when you take the initial dose of Suboxone.
Hey it’s true subs don’t give you withdrawals if you do not take it early and you do a short taper to ease fentanyl withdrawals, do it for 7 days your going to need a lot of it in the beginning to stabilize then cut down .5mg every day, let’s say you start at 6mgs which I recommend and cut down every day until zero mg there you go good luck 👍
I did that method. But I used methadone instead. I took it for 7 days. I weaned off quickly
Stay a way from suboxine as far as you can get Buprenorphine or subotex without naloxone and thank me later
Addicted to suboxone!?! Isn't the proper term dependent to suboxone? This makes more sense to me. The definitions are different from one another!
My thing is, why do they call acute withdrawal only 2 weeks? Implying the physical part is only 2-3 weeks. No if your energy is low for a couple months that’s still physical withdrawal. That’s not mental at all. Staying off marijuana is mental. Suboxone has a physical withdrawal that can last a while. Just because you stop shaking, pooping, and sneezing doesn’t mean your withdrawal is over. Not being able to sleep is physical not mental. They need to do better with the information they give out. I would have never gotten on this stuff if I knew it could potentially take 60-210 days to feel normal again! Ridiculous
It’s week 3 for me and I have such bad insomnia and blurred vision.. my vision is so fuzzy not to mention now hopeless and lack of energy it’s causing me! This shit is the devil.. thank god someone else will speak the truth about this slop because I know I’m not the only one still dying inside and it’s been 3 weeks
@@joannl3319 please keep grinding Joann. I’m on day 110 and it does get better. At about 6 weeks everything gets really manageable to the point you can do daily activities. For sleep, buy this supplement called Alteril it helps me out a lot!
@@joannl3319 more advice, idk if you believe in God or not but please pray. He’s real and will help you a lot. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and he’ll help you through it. I won’t preach to you I had to get that out the way because he helped me so much. If I can get through this you can. I wasn’t just going thru withdrawal I was battling multiple things at once. TRUST me you can do it. What supplements are you taking? I can help you. I’m on day 110 and I feel good enough to get up and go to school every morning. CDL school. 6 weeks to be functional.2-3 months to feel decent.6-7 months to feel 100%. But you feel better every two weeks trust me. Just grind, don’t give in
I've been on suboxone for seven years im on 8mg a day and going to go or try to jump off cold Turkey im expecting some nasty withdrawals but i hate the stuff im desperate to stop also going through benzo withdrawal atm I was originally on 24mg a day I think life is going to be hell for a while but it's been hell for too long anyway.
I do not recommend going cold turkey. This is my third time coming off suboxone after 12 years. Day 16 and I still feel like crap. The first two times, it took a good month to feel better. Try and find an addiction therapist, or doctor that can help with comfort meds. Even with meds to help, it’s brutal.
Good Luck, stay strong, and you will feel so much better for it.
@@mpinelli3724 hi yeah day 3 I thought I was dying ive gone down to 6m daily but im having it every 2nd day so im actually down to 3meg I'm going to do it properly it's just too hard to jump off
Over dose on subs?
12 hours until I get my script and I feel like total shit..
I’ve been on Suboxone probably 6 years. Starting on 24mg but now down to 4mg. I’m terrified of stopping and now have just prolonged getting off it for the past couple years. How the fuck do I stop? I have a full time job, two kids. I can’t go through withdrawals, I’m trapped.
Need to take 2 weeks holiday, although from experience I know 2 weeks isn't enough. You need more like 2 months. Subutex is THE worst pharmaceutical I've ever know.
@@uglypug6608 that is good advice, thank you. I can plan for sometime this year to take off and really go for it. Thanks for the idea.
Take a week off then take kratom at work. I did that with methadone
@@progressiverjuna kratom? I have to look into that. Thanks 🙏
Try eating healthy food salads and tuna fish plenty of water take a b12 vitamin no junk food no greasy food no fast food eat clean make sure you sleep at least 8 hours and you will feel much better
It’s a good damn nightmare. Just as bad as the withdrawal from what you were taking prior to getting on the suboxone. All suboxone does is replace an illegal dependency with a legal one. All it does is delay the inevitable. Or you can just stay on it for life.
Exactly. I cant believe how addictive it is.
I’ve been on it for two years now since I was 15, it is exactly like replacing an illegal addiction with a legal one, but the difference is in the naloxone. You don’t get high from taking suboxone as prescribed, and it’s much harder to overdose. Also, it allows patients to slowly ween off the opioids without feeling the intense withdrawal that you would feel had you just gone cold turkey. You have to spend 72 hours in withdrawl before you can be administered suboxone in the first place and those 72 hours are hell on earth and would make anyone desperate for something to take the pain away, and that’s where the harm reduction of taking suboxone instead of oxy contin, fentanyl, heroin, etc. comes into play.
the feeling makes me want to die..i cant even hold water down
Wrong. It breaks the cycle that is drug seeking. It’s huge in giving people their life back.
Oh shit I do get bad headaches since I been on subs when I don’t take one I get pressure in my head
It's the naloxone that is causing the headaches. That is why people prefer Subutex. it has no naloxone. Very few side effects. Unlike Suboxone
I’m on suboxone and I fucking hate it, hate the taste and everything I’m about to get the shot because I just keep finding myself relapsing
was on methadone for 10 years, now a year on bupnorphine and on only 2 mill. I'll half the day as 2 mil only holds u for 10 hours. dreading it really getting some diazapam and zopiclone on Wednesday but il be 2 days into withdrawels by then. its that aches and not sleeping that makes me fail everytime. this time tho i have no script so have to do it and go to work. total nightmare!
How are you?
@rochellelee7461 sound thanks, iam back on 4 mil of subs so got to go through it again. Lol.
@@MrDenzal27 I believe in you. Whatever you choose is right for you. ♡
It’s my 2nd day and going strong 💪
How are you doing now jw I'm on day 20
@@ryanhendrickson7346 it’s been more than a month. Unfortunately I didn’t expect Suboxone withdrawal to be this long. But it was. I still am not able to sleep quite well but am much better now. Even after a month you feel some withdrawals. But it goes away slowly. So don’t worry.
Addiction huh, so I guess dependence isn't different from addiction anymore huh ??? Their obviously anti Suboxone here.( Naloxone not naltrexone.)
It is 10x worse and way longer. No one overdoses, and long term is needed for some. Better than fent overdose
Taper then taper after that, taper. Remember you gotta want too. It will get better!
Naltrexone is not an ingredient in Suboxone.
Look I went to my pain management asking for the way out of painkiller physical dependence...they literally told me that Suboxone would give me my clarity back and I wouldn't have to be "high" anymore and that the need for the suboxone would just fall away from my system like leaves blowing on a gentle fall wind.....WOW...what a racket and a trap!!! 10 years later it has taken to get down from 6 films a day to 1!!!! I tried going more and let me tell you I have withdrawals everytime I've just lowered the dose just not as Hellish if I was to go cold turkey. Does it give you your clarity back...Yes it does, but you are still trapped and they know it and Profit off of it. I am hoping that Kratom might be a tool that may work...we will see. The one truth I can say is that I do not crave getting high at all and it is just the physical dependency part that pisses me off now.
6 strips a day!! Damn that's a lot of subs... Why so many?
suboxone make me sick and feel so depression....im very feed disappointed for this doctor threat with suboxone.. because this withdrawl so worse
Kratom is just as bad a demon. Stop the crutches and just get through it.
Its naloxone not naltrexone.. two different drugs.
This shit is death. Trust me. It’s just like straight opiates withdrawal except the withdrawals never end. I’m on 5 weeks now and I’m still basically just alive.
Are you okay? Nobody follows up, ugh
@@Killmaisy yes 2 months and I will be 3 years clean. It can be done
@@jamiegrey7571how did you do it? I'm dying to know your experience
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I’m on day 2 and I feel horrid. Help!!!
I Got sober from Suboxone with Kratom. you can get kratom from your local smoke shop. it gets rid of the withdrawal symptoms 100 percent while allowing your mind to heal.
Cree Lynn how you feeling now???
Jorge Reynoso Lol I gave in. But now I will wean off instead of going off cold turkey. Thanks for asking! ☺️
@@creeisaacson yes good job. hope your doing ok. Taper your self off down to 2mg. Then jump on krater for about two weeks then go full sober and I promise you will be successful I believe in you!! Because I did so that means any body can.
Ego Death Happiness At 2mg most of the opiate receptors are still covered. Try to go way lower. Like .15mg. Slow and steady wins it. That, or go take a couple floods of Ibogaine. This is how I was able to jump from 12mg of sub with little WD (perhaps 5-10% of Normal WD).
You can't overdose 🤔
Mine as well use opiates to get off suboxone then reuse suboxone for 1 week then stop lol
Anyone know how to ease aching shins in withdrawl?
The best way I've found is taking either a hot bath, get dried and jump straight into bed. You may be luckily enough to get a full hours sleep each night, or possibly looking into some organic magnesium supplements, they prevent calcium build up in the bones and block the nerves of RLS. However the magnesium does not work for me, neither do sleeping tablets, only the hot bath. 2 hours sleep right now would be bliss, I'm like a walking zombie
Or go for a walk, also. If your legs aren't moving they're giving you grief. Don't worry it only lasts about 6 weeks, if you're lucky.
@@uglypug6608 feeling better?
If you want to get off suboxine get some quality kratom! Period! I got mine from organa kratom. Do it.
I got off methadone using kratom.. It's very hard to come off methadone but very easy with kratom
How long were you talking Suboxone? & Can you give me a little bit more detail about how Kratom works or at least what it did to releave your withdrawal symptoms
Thanks
@@polocisneros snorted anywhere from an 8th to a half of the 8mg pulls everyday for like a year and a half. I tried to stop but couldn't manage life w the withdraws. Got some red maeng da and white maeng da kratom from organa kratom. About 2 level spoonfuls a day and no withdraws at all haven't used suboxine in like 3 months. They day kratom is addictive and can cause withdraws too but I was in Florida for 3 days and didn't even think about it. Now I just buy kratom from gas stations, don't need the fancy stuff. Prolly better to have less potent stuff anyway.
Did you stop kratom yet? Definitely don't need it 3 months, sub w/d doesn't last that long.
Kratom WD is bad bad too. It’s an endless hell
Many things wrong with this video. Suboxone does not help with Alcohol whatsoever. It's naloxone that's mixed with the bup. Also, the withdrawal from suboxone can be way harder and way worse then getting off opiates in the first place.
Suboxone for alcoholism? Ummm, I don't think so. This wreaks of ignorance. I know Naltrexone is prescribed for Alcoholism. However, the Naltrexone in Suboxone is meant to deter abuse from injection. It is not bioavailable sublingually or orally. Buprenorphine is the active ingredient. It is a partial agonist opiate with very high affinity. And, it does make a person high! I know, I took it for 5 years. Now, is there therapeutic value to it? I'd have to say yes. Only, because it's available via prescription which breaks the "drug seeking" pattern. However, this could be done with any opiate.
Question: what is your success rate? Odds are, it's
Naloxone is in suboxone, not naltrexone.. Can't believe a legit recovery service could get that major fact wrong. They do use naltrexone to treat addiction but it is not in suboxone.
If anybody wants off of Sub message me. I was 10 years on it and I've stopped it. Stopped several times actually - it's kind of a curse when you know how to quit it because you again turn to opiods knowing you can always go back to the "safety" of Sub. Ugh. Brutal cycle. Anyway, I know how to stop with little to no WD's.
Any tips? On day 20 and the depression is killing me. Thought the worst was over but major depressed
@@saveir6601 Sorry to hear that. Vitamin C is KEY! I’d be taking 15,000 mg a day or “to bowel tolerance” as they say. It will result in diarrhea at some point. Take as much as you can… It’s been researched and I’ve checked with doctors it’s impossible to take “too much” C.
Vitamin C Covers the opiate receptors in your brain that are screaming… We just need lots of it
Next make sure you’re taking Immodium … works well. Very well. It acts on opiate receptors not in your brain but in your gut.
Lots of Magnesium ( for restless leg) and your brain. Niacin (B) too. And Fish Oil helps as well.
Finally lots of exercise… Push yourself.
Best of luck to you.
Unless you want go into a medically induced coma there ain't no way of escaping withdrawls you can mask it with other stuff lessen it for awhile and I've been on every opiate imaginable 120mg methadone suboxone heroin diaulid
I would like to know.. I’m on 1mg as of right now, insurance cut me off so im forced into it..
*WRONG*
Explain please
I was on it for 5 years. I stopped cold turkey and I felt tired for about 2 days other than that no problem
Was you on a very low dose? You must be one of the lucky ones because I have never heard anyone coming off of subs say this.
Sorry, but I find that hard to believe
I’m on day 4 now off Suboxone. I didn’t CT though I tapered for awhile. Achey and sore but other than that I’m ok. I’m on vacation but could work if I had to.
I was on suboxone for 6 years from 2015-Apr 2021. Before that, I walked cold off 115/day methadone, marijuana, and 3 pk/day cigarette habit with the Lord by my side in May 2010. I just didn't work my recovery in a support setting. Over time, I dabbled, Tramadol bout 3 years, finally submitting to this crap at the pain clinic I was at in 2015. I tried to detox myself slowly about 10 to 15 times in 6 years. I felt the call to just "bail" and turn my back on it, but I didn't heed that and stayed in my own thinking. What He knew that I didn't was that coming off 1 mg/day isn't a lot different from 16. It's so potent that any of it, and you're system is saturated. Same nasty game when you yank that final bit! PLEASE don't prolong the inevitable!
Anyhow, I FINALLY took the plunge when I read the google news that DMX had OD'd on crack cocaine, because I was using some meth and coke too for several days before. Man.....I loved that guy, and it broke my heart. I'm 51, X was one month younger than me. April 7 was my first day without. A tough week, but when you listen to the Spirit of God, he just makes things possible with strength I really don't have. Day 8, I was contemplating using a tad to get one really good night's sleep. Every morning was squirts and crampy stomach. I remembered my buddy at CR (celebrate recovery) had given me some Kratom. 2 good teaspoons, and I was like new, but with a clear mind. It makes recovery so much more than just possible. If you want it.
I still use it now, but it does not have the constipation and gut hardening effects of opioids. Also know that the other thing the Lord impressed upon me is that to not go back, I had to change EVERYTHING!!! I stepped up the gym routine to (2) 3 hour full body workouts a week, and adhered to a low-carb, high vegetable and moderate meat diet with a lot of stir-fries, chicken, fish, and a little beef. By july (3 months) I dropped from a "regular" 230 lbs to 195. I bottomed out at 182 a month ago, then actually began packing protein doing (3) 3-hour full body workouts a week. I'm now a very toned and strong 192lbs. Im at the lowest bodyfat of my life, and I feel better than I EVER did in my 20's or 30's!! I was in 38" waist jeans and now 31's are comfortable, 32's loose. My hormones are wildly different, I feel my sexuality again for the first time in years, and even young girls flirt with me at times, a lot of women my age do daily, and men steer clear. I'm more fit and capable, (power/weight ratio, endurance, speed, balance, etc) than prob 98% of men my age. I think and feel like I did in my 20's now, carrying that Alpha/dominance attitude that I thought was long dead and gone. PLEASE know that you can kick this crap, and that your body will thank you in spades. May the LORD bless y'all in your courageous struggle ahead that you WILL win out in the end!!! Know I understand the hopelessness and darkness it carries. It isn't permanent. AMEN.
Remember, I'm just a guy that wanted to get free! Just a dummy that felt he needed this sht to live. Nothing special or different about me at all.
(FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME, ANYONE WANTING SOMEONE TO TALK TO ABOUT THIS!!!)
I took it for two months solid, taper down to about a milligram to two a day for the last month, i’m on day two, any ideas of how it’s going to be? 😟
I am coming off of opioids after 15 years (spinal issues, like most everybody else). I went to ER last night (Day 3 of total withdrawal) because at 63 years of age my body is weak, anyway, I asked for a low dose of Suboxone (got 1 of the 8mg/2mg). The doctor wants me to visit an outpatient treatment facility and wants me to take one a day, after reading all of these comments I don’t want anymore. It’s a false help. I hope you made it Free Thinker, your comment is showing 4 weeks ago. Thank you and all the others that have given me a better understanding of what to expect, oh my goodness. Still, I’d rather be in pain than sick.
Suboxone does not have naltrexone in it! It has naloxone! Wow. You are a recovery service and you got a major detail like that wrong. I would hate to be at your mercy..holy shht!
I'm on day 2-3 and it's horrible
How’d you make out bro? I’m on day 4, I feel you
@@brianjackson3031I failed day 4-5 ran back
@@brianjackson3031 I'll get it one day
@@mattmccaughen8082 dang bro. You can do it man. Try YouTubing megadosing vitamin c. Helping me a lot. Calmzone magnesium, hylands restful legs, Passion flower, the vitamin called GABA, valerian root, and Alteril for sleeping. It’s still not fun, but all of these supplements are helping me. But most importantly praying to Jesus Christ. God bless you, I pray for your success in the future.
@@brianjackson3031 when I quit I didn't know what to do now I do so next time I try I'll get it don't worry I'm on a low dose now to I've stopped to two so it will be even easier
You cant OF on Suboxone. You should really get your info right before putting it out to the public. Especially representing a treatment facility.
Naltrexone? Do you even know what you're talking about? Suboxone is BUPRENORPHINE AND NALOXONE, not Naltrexone.
Likely, alcohol? What the hell. Suboxone is prescribed like candy and is just barely better than heroin. Wrong.
Here's the facts... suboxone naloxone naltrexone... all of them can be used for alcoholism... i did this YEARS ago and they are only recently figuring this out i been screaming it for years... i used subs to get sober. Take it in the am and your urge to drink diminishes- probably cuz your high but it worked. I have 8 years sober. The opiate and suboxone thats another story. Fucking nightmare
Just a little tip...before starting detox ...BLACK CHIA SEEDS(2-3 measuring cups daily).It cuts every symptom in half..especially digestive. PROMISE IT WORKS...
3 cups of chia seeds a day ????
3 cups of chia seeds???? How the hell do you get that much in your body at a time???
Lol 😂 that's a shit tons of seeds. Just picturing being in a zombie like state eating cups of seeds in the kitchen lmao
Suboxone contains naloxone not naltrexone
First fact is wrong. Naltrexone is not naloxone. Yikes
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Suboxone is NOT part Naltrexone. It’s it buprenorphine and NALOXONE. Get educated before making these kinds of videos. I can’t stand when people like doctors who have NEVER taken Suboxone or ANY opioids talk about what withdrawal symptoms are like. One day I hope I can become a drug addiction counselor so I can educate patients and others about this medication because of my experience.
Oh its like a day at Disneyland. Wtf kind of question is that.
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