I know it's like what are U trying to protect the relationship is clearly broken and it's only gonna get worse if U do nothing special for the partner who knows nothing and is innocent
You had a kid with your sisters husband, but your aunt who didn't tell anyone and let you live with her is the entitled one. You're so entitled that you can't see it
@@HeoBaby24 she’s acting like a young person who has a lot of guilt. And as others have said she was most likely groomed so she is young and confused, so yea her decision making to you and I doesn’t make sense. I can see how people who refuse to empathize with anyone might find her confused behavior as entitled.
ST1 Imagine betraying the person who raised you, running away and you’re angry at the aunt who told one lie about his father, after everything you’ve done. Yeah the aunt telling the kid a lie is bad but not nearly as bad as everything op has done.
She cheated with her BIL. The husband of her sister. The sister that raised her. Wow. I hope she gets all the bad things coming to her. All the psychologists point out all the same and she don't accepts it. They are all wrong in her mind. So entitled and a bad person.
It was with her BIL when she was 18. If her sister practically raised her then that means BIL was a male authority figure of hers who took advantage of her. Seems to me like she was a victim of a 40 year old man
@@ragon39 doesn't make her less a homewrecker and a cheat that can't even tell her sister. She doesn't really show remorse or otherwise she would be truthful.
Nah, that's sounds like she doesn't want to accept that her brother in law and father figure groomed her long before she was 18. If she was pregnant at 18 he was sleeping with her before she was 18.
@@MinkxiTes she was literally grommed by an adult, he has more responsibility. The husband shouldn’t have cheated nor get together with a fresh 18. I agree she should have come clean so her sister can know what a fucking creep he is
@@MinkxiTesI get where you’re coming from, but please remember she was 18 years old and mostly a victim of grooming. Not to mention the fact that she is paying for her actions now. Her son is hurt and may end up resenting her for a very long time, she’s suffering from depression and her relationship with her sister will never be the same. To me, as bad as what op did was, the biggest villain in this story is the BIL.
Okay reddit needs to cool it with this 'why didnt you notice he was a homophobe earlier?!' some people unknowingly live with serial killers!!!! OP dumped him. She stood by her gay friend, and the theoritical children, she didn't try to have her cake and eat it too, she didn't buy into his ''compromising'', she left If that's not a worthy ally I dont know what is
Seriously, these people who made this woman feel like SHE failed, to the point where she was lambasting herself and calling herself a "coward" are the reason I don't go on reddit myself. People telling her she should reach out to LGBT groups like SHE did something wrong and SHE needs to make something up to the LGBT community are living on their own planet. Like you said, she's already shown she's an ally, what TF does she have to prove?
Stg it's like those redditor expected her to be psychic and believe bigoted scumbags don't lie, manipulate, obscure, or find ways to keep the quiet part quiet.
I thought the aunt said something bad about op, like "you can't see dad because your mom is a terrible person..... (Which she is)" but she actually help op right there, aunt give op's kid a nice, simple and believable story. But no, aunt is entitled, the woman who have the courtesy of helping and housing op is entitled. Why does it feel like op secretly want to ruin her sister marriage and get with bil, i mean she did cheated. There had to be some lingering feeling.
Are you missing the part that she was an adult and knew damn well what she was doing was the biggest betrayal possible to her sister???? Grooming isn't an excuse here! She's was 18 not 16!!
@@redguy2312so if he was her father would ya think the same way? Or are ya trying to make either your own actions of grooming a child or being groomed as a child the victim's fault. She was repeatedly raped by her father figure dude.
@@redguy2312 18 is just where we draw the legal line. Being 18 doesn't magically stop someone older and more experienced from having a lot of influence over a younger less experienced individual. You know the law but not the moral reasoning behind it.
Story 1: OP is such a horrible person that I can't even. 'I wanted to yell at myself' well, yeah? You betrayed your sister in the worst way possible, you berated the only person who helped you and you denied your son from freedom of his 'dad' to save fave, 'cause you know that telling him you are a homewrecker, a cheater and possibly one of the most horrible sisters ever. OP, you need help and you need to grow up. Free yourself from the lies and your son.
This OP is disgusting, her sister raised her and she betrayed her by having an affair with her own sister husband and then got pregnant and that’s the only reason she stopped! So her running away mean nothing because she have her sister living with a cheater! The two of them are trash!
I don't know how I feel about the first story, sure the Aunt shouldn't told op's son a lie. However, just by looking at the actual post on reddit and reading the comments plus the updates, it seems like the sister's husband wasn't a good person but the op should've listened to the psychologist as they were trying to help her.
So... are we just going to ignore the fact that she was just 18? And he sisters husband was a full grown and developed adult? "They were both adults" doesnt sound like it
OP really is crazy. she's acting like no one could have stopped what happened. unless BIL forced himself onto her, she had enough control to say no. instead it's everyone else's fault except hers. OP is a giant AH
Homophobic ex: So, my brother married a Philippino lady, a very kind lady. Their son in gay, he is actually my favorite nephew because he has a wonderful loving ❤️. Many years after they divorced, he got some new friends, got heavily into fox news, and started spewing a lot of Homophobic, racist views. The person he is now is not my brother. Op should not feel bad for not seeing this coming. Her ex is now in a cult of hate. And like all cults, they indoctrinate secretly, quietly, and then they start cutting you off from your loved ones. 💔 Story1 Also, how old was she when her bil slept with her.bil Sounds like a groomer to me.
1st OL wad 18 when she had a physical affair but how long was the 43, i repeat 43 years old grooming her before it got to this. She's a legal adult at 18 but there's no way the man 2 decade older didn't take advantage of her, wake up people
Are you missing the part that she was an adult and knew damn well what she was doing was the biggest betrayal possible to her sister???? Grooming isn't an excuse here! She's was 18 not 16!!
@@redguy2312Do u know how grooming works? Men like the BIL start preying on girls like op when they are minors. They don’t do anything physical, but they manipulate them and play with their very fragile emotions. Then when turn 18 that’s when it becomes physical so that he can say what you just said, well she was an adult, she knew what she was doing. Your attitude is why ppl like the BIL get away with grooming
Story 1 I hope karma gets the aunt and the OP when I hear 👂 people say keep a secret or keeping lies like this makes me look 👀 at you as fake and non-moral person
Very easy. It's a topic that didn't come up. Plus the ex was really good at hiding who he is. It is impossible to cover every belief and every topic when you're dating. It's impossible to fully know someone in 4 years. Also, keep in mind that OP's ex Never said anything or did anything indicating he was homophobic. He was friendly with their trans friend. He was friendly with other gay friends. This dude went to a pride event. Why would OP think to question his stance on LGBTQ. Whether it had to do with friends or family. Did you have a book of 500,000 questions that anyone you dated had to fill out. If you want to be upset,be upset at the actual AH. He was the one lying to OP and their friends.
either reveal the truth or go with the lie. Aunt was just following your lead by not blowing it up. story 2 is just funny. op tries to ruin his life to make up for her guilt. lgbt attacks her, she says sorry. they keep attacking, she keeps apologizing. what a healthy dynamic
Story 2 is wild, the ex bf "supported and went to pride events" for friends who came out but she still felt obligated to throw him under the bus and destroy his potential career trashy people getting advice from other trashy people 😬
Do what. You realize that guy openly admitted to OP that If they had a child that came out, he wouldn't have anything to do with raising that child. That dip is a teacher. What makes you think for a second that he will treat a student who is an LGBTQ member the same as students who are straight. When he is willing to alienate his own child for it. The only "trashy" people are OP's ex, his Dad and possibly. You. I say possibly because I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Thinking that maybe you missed that he would alienate his own child.
@lindah3803 the guy didnt say anything of the sort he said he'd distance baring in mind that he is childless and in school making the comment certain things and thoughts change when you have kids but who's to say the OP's overreaction to his "homophobia" despite outwardly he supported several people based on her account in their coming out probably solidified a lot of his views on the community. As for me possibly being trashy thats a goofy take to have considering none of what ive said has any of my views should get help homie those leaps could cause some damage one day 🤔
@HeoBaby24 never said he'd cut off his kid O.o said he'd distance but by the time a person is actively answering that question for themselves is the same time they claim to be independent or believe to be so some distancing wouldnt do that much realistically only things that speeds that timeline are parents, politics or illnesses and all of those situations should seek a therapist to make sure before making hasty decisions imo
@@demonicducky9486 if your going to "not raise" your child your essentially cutting them off. no amount of explaining will change the fact that this guy wouldn't love his child if they came out as gay
prove what? how is he base,? oh no how dare my ex not want to date me no more it's not like i secretly hated her gay friend or possibly any children that turns out to be gay especially when i knew this from the start and continued to lie to her face
@@HeoBaby24 He literally didn't lie about why they were breaking up not only that he literally said ppl like her try to "cancel" ppl like him and what did she try to do get him fired And u can be friendly toward gay ppl without wanting a gay kid and not only the most parents don't want to gay kid
@@cameron765 doee that make it any more better? why go to pride events but don't support gay people? why hide this for so long? sure many bigots who call themselves parents don't want gay kids. does that make it any better? he admitted to op he doesn't like gay people. and he's going to be a teacher. and likely chance he'll treat a child differently if they was gay.
@@cameron765 yes he did. you said you don't hate gay people yet you essentially would cut your child off because they're gay?? why are you trying to defend him so badly? when he proven time and time again he doesn't like gay people. op isn't trying to cancel him. she trying to protect people/kid's who are because he's going to be a teacher.
People who say "it's not my place" when it comes to cheating are all potential cheaters.
I know it's like what are U trying to protect the relationship is clearly broken and it's only gonna get worse if U do nothing special for the partner who knows nothing and is innocent
Anyone who says that to me is cut out of my life, can’t trust them
I can't say that. Especially when it comes to women. We tend to take it out on the messenger.
I feel like I would just have a moral obligation to tell the BS
You had a kid with your sisters husband, but your aunt who didn't tell anyone and let you live with her is the entitled one. You're so entitled that you can't see it
Yea this is from Secretvoices he loves using this word. No where did Op actually use that word.
@@tshorlacheri mean does it matter? we know the aunt isn't entitled
@@HeoBaby24 clearly it does, the person I responded to thinks op was calling her aunt entitled.
@@tshorlacher she didn't call her entitled but she thinks that way.
she acting hella ungrateful
@@HeoBaby24 she’s acting like a young person who has a lot of guilt. And as others have said she was most likely groomed so she is young and confused, so yea her decision making to you and I doesn’t make sense. I can see how people who refuse to empathize with anyone might find her confused behavior as entitled.
ST1
Imagine betraying the person who raised you, running away and you’re angry at the aunt who told one lie about his father, after everything you’ve done.
Yeah the aunt telling the kid a lie is bad but not nearly as bad as everything op has done.
Background of OP, was that her sister and BIL took her in at 6. He helped RAISE her and then had sex with her when she was “legal”.
She cheated with her BIL. The husband of her sister. The sister that raised her. Wow. I hope she gets all the bad things coming to her. All the psychologists point out all the same and she don't accepts it. They are all wrong in her mind. So entitled and a bad person.
It was with her BIL when she was 18. If her sister practically raised her then that means BIL was a male authority figure of hers who took advantage of her.
Seems to me like she was a victim of a 40 year old man
@@ragon39 doesn't make her less a homewrecker and a cheat that can't even tell her sister. She doesn't really show remorse or otherwise she would be truthful.
Nah, that's sounds like she doesn't want to accept that her brother in law and father figure groomed her long before she was 18. If she was pregnant at 18 he was sleeping with her before she was 18.
@@MinkxiTes she was literally grommed by an adult, he has more responsibility. The husband shouldn’t have cheated nor get together with a fresh 18. I agree she should have come clean so her sister can know what a fucking creep he is
@@MinkxiTesI get where you’re coming from, but please remember she was 18 years old and mostly a victim of grooming. Not to mention the fact that she is paying for her actions now. Her son is hurt and may end up resenting her for a very long time, she’s suffering from depression and her relationship with her sister will never be the same. To me, as bad as what op did was, the biggest villain in this story is the BIL.
Okay reddit needs to cool it with this 'why didnt you notice he was a homophobe earlier?!' some people unknowingly live with serial killers!!!!
OP dumped him. She stood by her gay friend, and the theoritical children, she didn't try to have her cake and eat it too, she didn't buy into his ''compromising'', she left
If that's not a worthy ally I dont know what is
Seriously, these people who made this woman feel like SHE failed, to the point where she was lambasting herself and calling herself a "coward" are the reason I don't go on reddit myself. People telling her she should reach out to LGBT groups like SHE did something wrong and SHE needs to make something up to the LGBT community are living on their own planet. Like you said, she's already shown she's an ally, what TF does she have to prove?
Stg it's like those redditor expected her to be psychic and believe bigoted scumbags don't lie, manipulate, obscure, or find ways to keep the quiet part quiet.
1st Op is trashy af.
I thought the aunt said something bad about op, like "you can't see dad because your mom is a terrible person..... (Which she is)" but she actually help op right there, aunt give op's kid a nice, simple and believable story. But no, aunt is entitled, the woman who have the courtesy of helping and housing op is entitled.
Why does it feel like op secretly want to ruin her sister marriage and get with bil, i mean she did cheated. There had to be some lingering feeling.
As far i understand she was 18 and he was over 40 when it happened
I've said before: I'm not so sure that it wasn't OP who seduced her BIL.
“Punishment” & “cancel culture” aka consequences for their own actions.
Is everyone missing how the BIL slept with his wife's much younger sister?
Are you missing the part that she was an adult and knew damn well what she was doing was the biggest betrayal possible to her sister???? Grooming isn't an excuse here! She's was 18 not 16!!
It seems like it.
@@redguy2312so if he was her father would ya think the same way? Or are ya trying to make either your own actions of grooming a child or being groomed as a child the victim's fault. She was repeatedly raped by her father figure dude.
@@Kris-wo4pj Wtf?? Legit schizo post.... Take your meds before making a comment.
@@redguy2312 18 is just where we draw the legal line. Being 18 doesn't magically stop someone older and more experienced from having a lot of influence over a younger less experienced individual. You know the law but not the moral reasoning behind it.
Holy crap. The ex in the second story is a piece of work.
Story 1: OP is such a horrible person that I can't even. 'I wanted to yell at myself' well, yeah? You betrayed your sister in the worst way possible, you berated the only person who helped you and you denied your son from freedom of his 'dad' to save fave, 'cause you know that telling him you are a homewrecker, a cheater and possibly one of the most horrible sisters ever. OP, you need help and you need to grow up. Free yourself from the lies and your son.
This OP is disgusting, her sister raised her and she betrayed her by having an affair with her own sister husband and then got pregnant and that’s the only reason she stopped! So her running away mean nothing because she have her sister living with a cheater! The two of them are trash!
I don't know how I feel about the first story, sure the Aunt shouldn't told op's son a lie. However, just by looking at the actual post on reddit and reading the comments plus the updates, it seems like the sister's husband wasn't a good person but the op should've listened to the psychologist as they were trying to help her.
In story one, the sisters husband is a predator. He was 40 something and slept with a freshly 18 year old?!
So... are we just going to ignore the fact that she was just 18? And he sisters husband was a full grown and developed adult? "They were both adults" doesnt sound like it
thats true but she isn't doing anyone any favors by still hiding it.
@@HeoBaby24 very very true, it's always best to be honest even with our consequences in the view
OP really is crazy. she's acting like no one could have stopped what happened. unless BIL forced himself onto her, she had enough control to say no. instead it's everyone else's fault except hers. OP is a giant AH
Homophobic ex:
So, my brother married a Philippino lady, a very kind lady.
Their son in gay, he is actually my favorite nephew because he has a wonderful loving ❤️.
Many years after they divorced, he got some new friends, got heavily into fox news, and started spewing a lot of Homophobic, racist views.
The person he is now is not my brother.
Op should not feel bad for not seeing this coming.
Her ex is now in a cult of hate. And like all cults, they indoctrinate secretly, quietly, and then they start cutting you off from your loved ones.
💔
Story1
Also, how old was she when her bil slept with her.bil Sounds like a groomer to me.
1st OL wad 18 when she had a physical affair but how long was the 43, i repeat 43 years old grooming her before it got to this. She's a legal adult at 18 but there's no way the man 2 decade older didn't take advantage of her, wake up people
Are you missing the part that she was an adult and knew damn well what she was doing was the biggest betrayal possible to her sister???? Grooming isn't an excuse here! She's was 18 not 16!!
@@redguy2312Do u know how grooming works? Men like the BIL start preying on girls like op when they are minors. They don’t do anything physical, but they manipulate them and play with their very fragile emotions. Then when turn 18 that’s when it becomes physical so that he can say what you just said, well she was an adult, she knew what she was doing. Your attitude is why ppl like the BIL get away with grooming
@@redguy2312 we get it, you got cheated on once and made it your whole personality. Now for the love of God get off the internet and go to work
@@cyn1clcynide Never got cheated on, what a childish comment... Grow up kid.
@@cyn1clcynide but she still has a point groomed or not she should've been told her sister. she no longer 18 she needs to tell her
Story 1: are we supposed to feel sorry for this OP cause she couldn’t tell her kid the truth
If the op didn't want to ruin her sister's marriage, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE SLEPT WITH HER SISTER'S HUSBAND.
s1 So, we're just going to gloss over the fact OP was groomed by a man over twice her age? 18 and 43. OPs sister married a predator
This op is all about me me me meeeeeee.
She is lieing
Story 1 I hope karma gets the aunt and the OP when I hear 👂 people say keep a secret or keeping lies like this makes me look 👀 at you as fake and non-moral person
Story 3: Both of these women are trash.
Holy crap, op sucks so bad
How the fuck do you not find out if a guy will accept gay kids or not before marrying someone
Very easy. It's a topic that didn't come up. Plus the ex was really good at hiding who he is. It is impossible to cover every belief and every topic when you're dating. It's impossible to fully know someone in 4 years. Also, keep in mind that OP's ex Never said anything or did anything indicating he was homophobic. He was friendly with their trans friend. He was friendly with other gay friends. This dude went to a pride event. Why would OP think to question his stance on LGBTQ. Whether it had to do with friends or family.
Did you have a book of 500,000 questions that anyone you dated had to fill out.
If you want to be upset,be upset at the actual AH. He was the one lying to OP and their friends.
it's hard to see people true colors. no one knew p diddy was a abusive, pedo
Topic didn't come up, lying, believing the best in people
Some people don't know they live with serial killers
@@MiraTheWarlock seriously. like everyone don't show they're true colors until it's to late
Some people are just that sneaky with their true feelings
either reveal the truth or go with the lie. Aunt was just following your lead by not blowing it up.
story 2 is just funny. op tries to ruin his life to make up for her guilt. lgbt attacks her, she says sorry. they keep attacking, she keeps apologizing. what a healthy dynamic
1st op wants to ruin her sisters marriage
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Story 2 is wild, the ex bf "supported and went to pride events" for friends who came out but she still felt obligated to throw him under the bus and destroy his potential career trashy people getting advice from other trashy people 😬
Do what. You realize that guy openly admitted to OP that If they had a child that came out, he wouldn't have anything to do with raising that child.
That dip is a teacher. What makes you think for a second that he will treat a student who is an LGBTQ member the same as students who are straight. When he is willing to alienate his own child for it. The only "trashy" people are OP's ex, his Dad and possibly. You.
I say possibly because I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Thinking that maybe you missed that he would alienate his own child.
ysh that's thrown out the window the moment he admitted he'll cut off his own kid for being gay
@lindah3803 the guy didnt say anything of the sort he said he'd distance baring in mind that he is childless and in school making the comment certain things and thoughts change when you have kids but who's to say the OP's overreaction to his "homophobia" despite outwardly he supported several people based on her account in their coming out probably solidified a lot of his views on the community. As for me possibly being trashy thats a goofy take to have considering none of what ive said has any of my views should get help homie those leaps could cause some damage one day 🤔
@HeoBaby24 never said he'd cut off his kid O.o said he'd distance but by the time a person is actively answering that question for themselves is the same time they claim to be independent or believe to be so some distancing wouldnt do that much realistically only things that speeds that timeline are parents, politics or illnesses and all of those situations should seek a therapist to make sure before making hasty decisions imo
@@demonicducky9486 if your going to "not raise" your child your essentially cutting them off. no amount of explaining will change the fact that this guy wouldn't love his child if they came out as gay
Base ex-bf in story 2 but not only that she literally proved her ex-bf right
prove what? how is he base,? oh no how dare my ex not want to date me no more
it's not like i secretly hated her gay friend or possibly any children that turns out to be gay especially when i knew this from the start and continued to lie to her face
@@HeoBaby24
He literally didn't lie about why they were breaking up not only that he literally said ppl like her try to "cancel" ppl like him and what did she try to do get him fired
And u can be friendly toward gay ppl without wanting a gay kid and not only the most parents don't want to gay kid
@@cameron765 doee that make it any more better?
why go to pride events but don't support gay people?
why hide this for so long? sure many bigots who call themselves parents don't want gay kids. does that make it any better?
he admitted to op he doesn't like gay people.
and he's going to be a teacher. and likely chance he'll treat a child differently if they was gay.
@@cameron765 yes he did. you said you don't hate gay people yet you essentially would cut your child off because they're gay??
why are you trying to defend him so badly? when he proven time and time again he doesn't like gay people.
op isn't trying to cancel him. she trying to protect people/kid's who are because he's going to be a teacher.
@@HeoBaby24
The only ppl u see going after kids are are the LGBTP
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