It’s very refreshing to have a company compliment their competition rather than speaking ill of them. You want the customer to be armed with the m data to make an informed decision and trust in the quality of your product, both in design and actual output. Much respect. 👍🏼
As an engineer I totally get the data and statistics and measuring things in a lab setting - but at the end of the day, what works better at night mounted to the vehicle? It would've been good to have that comparison too. Great stuff though!
Comment on the Baja Desgns Pro. It gets hot and cuts power, but the pro models I believe typically are for longer range, which you don't need when you are stopped. I would assume that if there is air flow, it would not get hot and derate.
I would really like to get DD lights but having such a small selection of products is really the only thing that is holding DD back from surpassing baja and rigid. DD needs to introduce some XL pods and dual row light bars both straight and curved.
Really like that you show your competitors with no bashing of them. Let you product speak for itself. In your opinion, do you think the combo or flood for back up lights?
great comparisons. i have used rigid since i started lighting up my motorcycles years ago. now they are on my truck. i have to take another look at dd lights now.
I'm sold on the dd lights for my extra reverse lights, just totally settled on the pattern I should choose. Combo is what I was leaning towards. I like the light to spread to the sides as well as a decent punch out back.
One thing that weigh on people's choices, especially in the U.S. is where they are manufactured. And to my knowledge both Baja Design and Diode Dynamicts are madin the USA, whereas Ridgid is made in China...
Depends on how fast you're going, but combo is a great choice for offroad headlights. None of our pods will produce a compliant road-legal low beam pattern.
@@diodedynamics Thank you! I just want to run something better than stock that won't look like I am actively trying to blind someone coming the opposite direction!
Not at this time, unfortunately, however, we do have a plug-and-play fog light kit with our SS6 lightbar! Here is a link to that video here: th-cam.com/video/n9P3lvXdttA/w-d-xo.html
If you're connecting our main beam and backlight to your auxiliary switches, you'll need the main beam on one switch and the backlight on another. If you have additional questions or concerns, go ahead and give us a call at 314-205-3033 Monday-Friday 10 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that!
The different output patterns are based off of which lens is installed on the pod. The pod itself is the same, but the lenses are interchangeable for different outputs!
hey there. are any of these dimmable? I want to install some on the side of my rig and would like the option to dim them down when set up at camp when I don't need them as bright.
Hi Ryan! You can see the pigtail in the seventh carousal image at the link below! We also offer a Heavy Duty 4-pin harness for these as well! www.diodedynamics.com/stage-series-2-sae-dot-white-pro-standard-led-pod-pair.html
I currently run some Rigid Dually as ditch lights but would like to switch to these SSC2. Will the Rigid Duetsche DT connector plug into the SSC2? (No backlight of course)
Unfortunately, we don't have any plug-and-play kits. However, we do offer universal mounting brackets and harnesses that can be custom-installed nearly anywhere!
Can I attach a helicopter spot light on my truck, because that’s what’s happening, these lights are extremely bright that it’s blinding the other drivers, on the roads. there has to be a legal standard , very dangerous, people are careless on the roads and with these extremely bright light 💡.more car accidents are accruing.
Hi there! If aimed properly, these will not blind other drivers on the road. Our fog and driving optic are SAE-compliant for legal on-road use. All other options are illegal and are for off-road use only!
I believe the Baja Designs wiring is terminated with a Weatherpack connector... At least they were when I got mine. I'd love to get a set of SSC2s but the integrated Deutsch connector is too bulky to fit in my ditch light location. The compactness of the S2 makes it my choice, even though all my other lights are DD.
Just to clarify, the DT connector plugs directly into the C2, so there's actually no bulk at all in the wiring. I just installed Baja S2s last night as ditch lights and the weatherpack connector being about 8" away from the actual light means the widest part is right where my hood closes.
@@XYoverland I'm fully aware of how the DTM connector integrates with the SSC2, I have several sets of SS3 lights (fog and driving). You'd need to take a look at my ditch light location to understand: flic.kr/p/2gvY8nX
Well you just stole a BD customer. I was going to order a set for my reverse to flash people who leave their brights on behind me, but yours are wayyyy brighter.
So I really like the focus of your work, making a very defined beam of light to accomplish specific lighting tasks. Also your videos are educational to the consumer. You come across as giving an unbiased report. My questions are these: 1) you continuously talk about baja designs pro level lights failing after being on for a few minutes and describe them as unstable and then give a candela of roughly the same for their sport and pro models. Did you experience this with every pro model light you tested? How many lights of the same "failing" model type did you test? Just one? or five lights of each type and they all exhibited the same problems? 2) you define candela on a linked video as the amount of light (lux) at a "specific point" at a specific distance. What point or field are you measuring when you are comparing your lights to baja designs? It seems on some of your photos that baja is putting out more light overall, though the center of your light pattern is brighter, albeit more focused. I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm trying to pick the best light for me. I have your lights and bajas in my Amazon cart right now. Your numbers and descriptions favor your lights, however that seems contingent on the baja pro models, which look visibally brighter overall, though not in the very center, failing. And it seems contingent on where you are measuring the light beam throughout your testing. I appreciate your help and like the way your lights look. Your price point is better too. Keep up the good work!
@@DG-ou8hx Sorry Dennis. We didn't see the drop-down on the comment. 1. For this video, we only tested dual-LED pods that are comparable to the SSC2 on the market. All output tested from each pod are from one pod. We also only test 1 of the same model of each pod. 2. We measured all of these at the same distance. Like you said, Lux is the amount of light at a specific distance. You measure the hot spot on the beam pattern using a Lux meter to get this number. The spread on one pod may be wider or bigger, but the lux reading may be smaller, meaning it is not as focused. Lux x meters squared gives you your candela. This is the best number to look at when comparing true output because it gives you how much focused light output is being shined in a specific direction. Thank you for the kind words! Every light on this list is the best on the market. That's why we put them up against our SSC2s. We encourage you to go with the light the best suites your needs. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask!
Two things that are important to me are, the light color and made in USA. Baja Designs fills both those requirements at 5000K(vs. 6000K) and made in USA.
We can appreciate that! We also do have that capability! If you were to purchase our yellow SSC2 and purchase a replacement white optic, you would actually get that same output color that Baja offers!
After great customer service via email, I bought the SS3 pro sae. Can't wait to install it above your competitor light. Yours will be my high beam. The other is my driving normal headlight. Thanks for great customer service. Ill be picking up a set of ssc2 spots soon.
The BAJA units are sold where I am located in Canada. Under a different name, Even possibly B stock. I own two different sets now that are B stock under a sub name. The same BAJA's seen here in white, I just picked up 2 more pars this week for $20 Can. each pair. At that price with the output seen here. Impossible to go wrong! This video is awesome as is their other comparison videos! These help a lot of people get what they are truly looking for.
We offer a roll bar mount that can be secured to just about anywhere you see fit on adventure bikes, if you don't have a place to install them with a universal mount. www.diodedynamics.com/stage-series-universal-roll-bar-mount-kit-one.html
Well after searching and searching and doing research i have concluded that i will be buying this instead of any other brands out there. I like how you don’t need to break your bank to get some good quality lighting for your truck.
We have a red backlight feature with our SSC2s, however the red color is NOT SAE compliant, and Cannot be used for additional brake light or running light, but we are always innovating new products, so stay tuned!
I had a set of C2 Pro on backorder since November and was just informed that due to a supply issue for the housings, it won't be shipped until April at least, so I had to cancel. Due to this video, I went ahead and got Baja S2 Sport for my scene/flood lights since the difference was negligible. I'd still prefer DD for my ditch lights due to the pattern though, so if anyone has a set (Yellow, Pro, Combo) and wants to trade for Baja S2 Sport Amber Combo, please let me know.
It’s very refreshing to have a company compliment their competition rather than speaking ill of them.
You want the customer to be armed with the m data to make an informed decision and trust in the quality of your product, both in design and actual output.
Much respect. 👍🏼
Thank you for the positive feedback! We aim to educate! 🙌
I love your open transparency, comparing all the named brands.
I love the unbiased information that you provide about your product and the competitors!
the Baja Designs plug isn't a proprietary one, but a standard Delphi Weatherpack connector. I have found them to be not as good as the Deutsch ones.
As an engineer I totally get the data and statistics and measuring things in a lab setting - but at the end of the day, what works better at night mounted to the vehicle? It would've been good to have that comparison too. Great stuff though!
, transparent and direct. This is how all TH-cam videos should be. Great work 👍🏼
Thank you for the support! 💪💪
Comment on the Baja Desgns Pro. It gets hot and cuts power, but the pro models I believe typically are for longer range, which you don't need when you are stopped. I would assume that if there is air flow, it would not get hot and derate.
I would really like to get DD lights but having such a small selection of products is really the only thing that is holding DD back from surpassing baja and rigid. DD needs to introduce some XL pods and dual row light bars both straight and curved.
Hi there, Jack! We're working on some big things for 2021- stay tuned!
Really like that you show your competitors with no bashing of them. Let you product speak for itself.
In your opinion, do you think the combo or flood for back up lights?
Thank you. We recommend the flood optic for backup applications!
This was tremendously helpful. Nice work guys!
We're glad to hear it!
great comparisons. i have used rigid since i started lighting up my motorcycles years ago. now they are on my truck. i have to take another look at dd lights now.
Don't know how I've missed this but great video. Real science!
Oh yeah! 😎😎👏
I just placed my order on a pair of SS2 Sport Driving lights in yellow for my Harley Davidson Electra Glide. I can't wait to see the output.
Alright! We can't wait to hear how you like them!
Did you get them and how do you like them? Thanks.
Are you planning to make a Max version of ssc2 in the near future ?
We don't have any current plans to offer a Max version of the SSC2 at this time. However, this may be something we consider in the future!
I'm sold on the dd lights for my extra reverse lights, just totally settled on the pattern I should choose. Combo is what I was leaning towards. I like the light to spread to the sides as well as a decent punch out back.
Hey Justin! It sounds like the combo is the way to go.
Which light did you end up getting and are you happy with your choice?
@@bigmike7801 ssc2 in combo pattern. Yes I like them a lot. The red backlight is a cool feature too.
Most important to me is the radiation- how are these? I have a pair of Auxbeams that wreak havoc on my vhf radios
Wow! I was going with Rigid but….
One thing that weigh on people's choices, especially in the U.S. is where they are manufactured. And to my knowledge both Baja Design and Diode Dynamicts are madin the USA, whereas Ridgid is made in China...
Great vid, thanks for testing these
You're welcome!
Can you do a comparison for 12" light bars in amber?
We can look into that!
I like the baja more
Reposting my comment about which beam pattern would work well for a atv. I want two light pods that will function as low beams.
Depends on how fast you're going, but combo is a great choice for offroad headlights. None of our pods will produce a compliant road-legal low beam pattern.
@@diodedynamics Thank you! I just want to run something better than stock that won't look like I am actively trying to blind someone coming the opposite direction!
@@Jdmjunkie001 if you're using them for off-road use, I would looking our driving and combo pods!
About to watch. I am in the market for lights now. This should be a great video.
Excellent video.
Thanks!
I need to get me a set!
I have your fogs for the tundra (2022+). Do you plan on ,asking a sae one like baja?
Not at this time, unfortunately, however, we do have a plug-and-play fog light kit with our SS6 lightbar!
Here is a link to that video here:
th-cam.com/video/n9P3lvXdttA/w-d-xo.html
@@diodedynamics I have that. Nice but they glare people and don’t project light in a good way for… fog
whats the ideal pattern for the ssc2 being used as ditch lights? combo driving?
Hi there! What are you looking to do with them?
@@diodedynamics angled towards ditches. 50-60mph back road use mostly.
Amateur here…will the backlight feature use one 8 switches on my panel?
If you're connecting our main beam and backlight to your auxiliary switches, you'll need the main beam on one switch and the backlight on another.
If you have additional questions or concerns, go ahead and give us a call at 314-205-3033 Monday-Friday 10 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that!
Great review thanks!
Thanks for watching!
What's are the distance from the wall and the light you guys were project from? 5 feet or?
They were compared at 20ft!
Are all of those different settings(flood,driving etc) interchangeable or is it the same light?
The different output patterns are based off of which lens is installed on the pod. The pod itself is the same, but the lenses are interchangeable for different outputs!
@3:39 which lights are these and how are they mounted? I’m looking to add extra reverse lights to a 2019 ram 1500 that already has led factory lights
Those are also our SSC2s in a flood pattern. You can find them at the link in the description!
hey there. are any of these dimmable? I want to install some on the side of my rig and would like the option to dim them down when set up at camp when I don't need them as bright.
Hi Scott! These are dimmable, but do not come with a dimmer switch. They will need to be wired into a switch panel or dimmer switch that can dim them!
Is there a photo somewhere of the pigtail that comes with your lights? I can't seem to find it anywhere on your site?
Hi Ryan! You can see the pigtail in the seventh carousal image at the link below! We also offer a Heavy Duty 4-pin harness for these as well!
www.diodedynamics.com/stage-series-2-sae-dot-white-pro-standard-led-pod-pair.html
@@diodedynamics ok thanks. Don’t need the harness as I will be putting the lights into a switch panel.
@@diodedynamics If Red is hot and Black is ground what is the Blue lead? Is that the backlight?
@@ryanskeete Yes
@@ryanskeete that is correct!
If you offered a plug and play Grom kit, like Baja Designs does, you'd have a new customer.
Thanks for the recommendation!
We will be sure to recommend this to our engineering team. Thanks!
I'd like you to review vision X
We'll pass this recommendation along to our team!
I never seen my bajas dim
That's good! We hope they never do!
@@diodedynamics good answer lol
I currently run some Rigid Dually as ditch lights but would like to switch to these SSC2.
Will the Rigid Duetsche DT connector plug into the SSC2? (No backlight of course)
Unfortunately, no. It would physically fit, however, the SSC2 will need a 4-pin DT connector to properly function. The Rigid is most likely a 2-pin.
Do you have any options for mounting on a new defender
Unfortunately, we don't have any plug-and-play kits. However, we do offer universal mounting brackets and harnesses that can be custom-installed nearly anywhere!
Don't really like the driving/flood combo. Driving/fog would be better
👍👍👍❗
I'm having a deja vu
It's not you! One spec off in the data tables, corrected and re-posted. Thanks!
Can I attach a helicopter spot light on my truck, because that’s what’s happening, these lights are extremely bright that it’s blinding the other drivers, on the roads. there has to be a legal standard , very dangerous, people are careless on the roads and with these extremely bright light 💡.more car accidents are accruing.
Hi there! If aimed properly, these will not blind other drivers on the road. Our fog and driving optic are SAE-compliant for legal on-road use. All other options are illegal and are for off-road use only!
I believe the Baja Designs wiring is terminated with a Weatherpack connector... At least they were when I got mine. I'd love to get a set of SSC2s but the integrated Deutsch connector is too bulky to fit in my ditch light location. The compactness of the S2 makes it my choice, even though all my other lights are DD.
Yes, you may be correct! Sorry to hear that - the Diode light is certainly the biggest of the bunch!
Just to clarify, the DT connector plugs directly into the C2, so there's actually no bulk at all in the wiring. I just installed Baja S2s last night as ditch lights and the weatherpack connector being about 8" away from the actual light means the widest part is right where my hood closes.
@@XYoverland I'm fully aware of how the DTM connector integrates with the SSC2, I have several sets of SS3 lights (fog and driving). You'd need to take a look at my ditch light location to understand:
flic.kr/p/2gvY8nX
Well you just stole a BD customer. I was going to order a set for my reverse to flash people who leave their brights on behind me, but yours are wayyyy brighter.
We appreciate your support, Michael!
So I really like the focus of your work, making a very defined beam of light to accomplish specific lighting tasks. Also your videos are educational to the consumer. You come across as giving an unbiased report.
My questions are these:
1) you continuously talk about baja designs pro level lights failing after being on for a few minutes and describe them as unstable and then give a candela of roughly the same for their sport and pro models. Did you experience this with every pro model light you tested? How many lights of the same "failing" model type did you test? Just one? or five lights of each type and they all exhibited the same problems?
2) you define candela on a linked video as the amount of light (lux) at a "specific point" at a specific distance. What point or field are you measuring when you are comparing your lights to baja designs? It seems on some of your photos that baja is putting out more light overall, though the center of your light pattern is brighter, albeit more focused.
I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm trying to pick the best light for me. I have your lights and bajas in my Amazon cart right now. Your numbers and descriptions favor your lights, however that seems contingent on the baja pro models, which look visibally brighter overall, though not in the very center, failing. And it seems contingent on where you are measuring the light beam throughout your testing. I appreciate your help and like the way your lights look. Your price point is better too. Keep up the good work!
We're glad you enjoyed it, Dennis!
@@diodedynamics you didn't answer the questions.
@@DG-ou8hx Sorry Dennis. We didn't see the drop-down on the comment.
1. For this video, we only tested dual-LED pods that are comparable to the SSC2 on the market. All output tested from each pod are from one pod. We also only test 1 of the same model of each pod.
2. We measured all of these at the same distance. Like you said, Lux is the amount of light at a specific distance. You measure the hot spot on the beam pattern using a Lux meter to get this number. The spread on one pod may be wider or bigger, but the lux reading may be smaller, meaning it is not as focused. Lux x meters squared gives you your candela. This is the best number to look at when comparing true output because it gives you how much focused light output is being shined in a specific direction.
Thank you for the kind words! Every light on this list is the best on the market. That's why we put them up against our SSC2s. We encourage you to go with the light the best suites your needs. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask!
Two things that are important to me are, the light color and made in USA. Baja Designs fills both those requirements at 5000K(vs. 6000K) and made in USA.
We can appreciate that! We also do have that capability! If you were to purchase our yellow SSC2 and purchase a replacement white optic, you would actually get that same output color that Baja offers!
After great customer service via email, I bought the SS3 pro sae. Can't wait to install it above your competitor light. Yours will be my high beam. The other is my driving normal headlight. Thanks for great customer service. Ill be picking up a set of ssc2 spots soon.
Thank you for the support!
Great, no nonsense presentation.
The red lights in the rear add fog driving safty. This is exactly why I'm getting some. Audi and volvo are ahead of the game on this application.
These are called "European rear Fogs". The DD back light are not bright enough for this type of rear fog.
Lol there have been several us cars with this. My 2002 Oldsmobile had them
The BAJA units are sold where I am located in Canada. Under a different name, Even possibly B stock. I own two different sets now that are B stock under a sub name. The same BAJA's seen here in white, I just picked up 2 more pars this week for $20 Can. each pair. At that price with the output seen here. Impossible to go wrong! This video is awesome as is their other comparison videos! These help a lot of people get what they are truly looking for.
2:05
Kinda interesting.... all DD's spot and driving lights seem to be way more spot/throw oriented...
I wish I would have watched this video before making a recent purchase.
But does the diode connect to the talaria??
We offer a roll bar mount that can be secured to just about anywhere you see fit on adventure bikes, if you don't have a place to install them with a universal mount.
www.diodedynamics.com/stage-series-universal-roll-bar-mount-kit-one.html
I wish you offered full power dual color
Well after searching and searching and doing research i have concluded that i will be buying this instead of any other brands out there. I like how you don’t need to break your bank to get some good quality lighting for your truck.
We appreciate the feedback! Please feel free to reach out if you have any other questions about our product, with this being your first one! 🙌
Put out a red lens, make a rear fog light adapter for various cars and this is one fantastic rear fog light....
We have a red backlight feature with our SSC2s, however the red color is NOT SAE compliant, and Cannot be used for additional brake light or running light, but we are always innovating new products, so stay tuned!
Probably THE best videos around to help someone actually understand types of lighting and beam patterns. Really well done 👍
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the support!
Rigid industries does offer twin light patterns the heck yall talking about
Hi there! Rigid does not offer a combo pattern in their 2" SR-M option. We are comparing each company's dual LED pod options.
Lumens, candella I’M confused.
This should help!
th-cam.com/video/ODU-l_G8B2s/w-d-xo.html
What pattern would you recommend for use on a motorcycle?
Hi there! Where are you looking to add light?
what pattern would be the best for backup lights?
Flood will most likely be your best option for backup!
Why dont you guys offer a 18" light bar with these LEDs?
I do have your bar , but by the looks of it , a bar made up of these would be insane
Yes, it would! That may be something we look into in the future.
I had a set of C2 Pro on backorder since November and was just informed that due to a supply issue for the housings, it won't be shipped until April at least, so I had to cancel. Due to this video, I went ahead and got Baja S2 Sport for my scene/flood lights since the difference was negligible. I'd still prefer DD for my ditch lights due to the pattern though, so if anyone has a set (Yellow, Pro, Combo) and wants to trade for Baja S2 Sport Amber Combo, please let me know.
Well, laboratory test are nice, but i think its almost useless when nothing is shown in a real life situation….
Hi there! Check out our Social Media pages or our website (diodedynamics.com). We have a ton of output shots/videos in real applications!
Which do you recommend for ditch lights set up on 2019 f150?
Hi Julian! How will you be using your ditch lights?