I grew up in Calvary Chapel and then the Vineyard churches and I always loved both! I like the way Calvary goes through Bible scripture and I love the Power of the Holy Spirit in the Vineyard. I miss how the vineyard was back in the 80’s and 90’s. I personally saw people healed of cancer and asthma. This is such a great video I wish I had found this sooner
@@alanpatterson5345 Chuck Jr believes homosexuality is fine check senior took took an opposite stance. he removed his son from leadership bc of his beliefs
I attended Chuck Jr's church for over 25 years he is an amazing teacher. Teaching book by book verse by verse. Thoughtful and deep. I am a strong Christian due to his way of teaching he is very charismatic teacher as well. Thank you Pastor Chuck!
And CC is so limited in it's perspective. Remember, it's the Spirit who brings Life. CC doesn't allow the Spirit to move. Very sad.. it will eventually fail.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Chuck jr is not greater than Jesus, sorry to disappoint!
@@piusvapor I agree with you but your comment you say you are "sorry" but you aren't being truthful in that statement, do you think you spoke to me out of love???? Check yourself
Guys , just let God sort this stuff out when the Lord returns. I hope we can all agree that God's plan supersedes all churches and groups and the main thing is the return of God's Sheep to their Shepherd. No need to argue theology or one leader vs another. Thanks 🙏
I tend to think about this rest and walk with God moment to moment as "walking in the Spirit" great discussion . 8v been working this in my own for 54 years and still practicing and learning every day.
I was the worship leader at Calvary Chapel Whittier, a thriving church pastored by John McClure, a gifted Bible teacher. When Lonnie came to Yorba Linda, it started the Calvary/Vineyard split, which broke my heart. No doubt Lonnie was good at what he does. What is it that he does? Group hypnosis? Bringing The Holy Spirit? He sparked TWO of the largest Christian movements in California history. Chuck Jr has a good take on it, I think.
Matthew 7:15-23 KJVS [15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I have watched Part 1; Part 2 shows me that Chuck Smith Jr has more wisdom, knowledge, and experience of Christianity; his Dad raised him very well. I am very impressed with both the son adn the father. Thanks be to God! Lord Jesus, Son of the Living God, have mercy on us sinners.
Maybe the lecture hall norm of Christian meetings needs to morph into the fellowship norm found in Matthew 23:8-11 and 1 John 1:3-4 where everyone gets to use their gifts for the common good.
Been a Christian for over 40 years and very active in the word and the Spirit - this is lovely. I'm Jesus Revolution overflow traffic! 😉 I find if I can't be still with Him, I get lost in activity. As Lonnie used to pray, "Come Holy Spirit". It starts in my room with the door closed. Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come!" And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life. 🙏 If it's hard to understand, watch Heidi Baker in a private place and do as she does, she's good at leading you in. And REST. ♥ Thank you, Robert.
Like Psalm 1:4-3 says, "But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law he meditates day and night. He shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that brings forth its fruit in its season, whose leaf also shall not wither; and whatever he does shall prosper."
Thank you, There is reading scriptures and there is BEING, understanding the subtle meanings between the two is the key to going into the kingdom within. Once the mind's habit of separation from all that is created on this earth is abolished from within by understanding that all was created for a purpose and thus were not created with any human bias then heaven on earth can be glimpsed at.
Im glad you talked about the music. Wimbur's band was good. Wasn't it Carl Tuttle? We had a pretty good band at Calvary-Later-Vineyard Whittier. It was a good church. The Vineyard split, Wimbur, Lonnie, destroyed that Whittier church. It was sad.
Hello Robert, I'm new to your channel I found it because of your great discussions here about so many important aspects with Chuck What I noticed is that right after these videos you have pretty much stopped making videos except for family matters and your wonderful and beautiful "faith in yourself " video. I have to tell you that I think there should have been a part 3 to your talks with Chuck and your inspired vocalization of perhaps a new ministry might be formed along the lines of scripture plus walking with God if you remember. I think you both were into something there and on to something that I basically walking alone with God ( meaning I'm not part of any church or organization for 54 years ,I'm 68 now) I wonder why you did not move on this inspiration and either focus on your channel here or even start this ministry or a book or a class . You and Chuck working together brought out some profound insights that I might say through ignorance of all denominations and groups are not represented among believers in Christ ( sorry if there are i mean no disrespect) I want to know if you were pressured to stop talking about this (or perhaps Chuck was) because the "Pharasees and Saduseez" of our time may have put pressure on you. Regardless... if you see this I think it was on your mind 7 months ago when you made the short but powerful Faith video. Maybe it is time to get going again and again I'm sorry to be presumptuous here. But I'm needing to fellowship with like-minded folks again and just started to get involved with a small neighborhood church called Waypoint where it seems to be happening . Love yo hear your thoughts on this Brother! Agape🙏👍👌👋💞
I love Calvary chapel and I love Chuck Smith and I love Greg Laurie and I love Jack Hibbs Bible teaching but I don’t like it when they quench the spirit the Holy Spirit they Quansett, and then they need to repent repent. They’re fighting against God when they don’t let the Holy Spirit move.
We cannot enter God's rest because of unbelief (Hebrews 3:18-19 (the whole chapter is good)). This is why (see James 4:7-8) we're told to submit ourselves to God and to resist the devil who plants unbelief in our thought life. We need to be totally Jesus' by removing double mindedness from our lives. Jesus had to be with His Father in order to live the life He was asked to live. Also, for me, Romans 8:28 has changed my CPTSD life filled with chronic, severe migraines. God is allowing these to teach me to totally depend on Him, to know Him to that degree and to thank and praise Him in all things (Ephesians 5:20).
@@californiatravelnurse318 why do you feel the need to say this after every positive response. Please…. You made your point and you don’t have any likes. People are not interested in what his father did. There is an interest in what he is saying. Can you pls refrain from being repetitive? It’s really annoying.
Matthew 5:13-16 NASB [13] "You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men. [14] "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; [15] nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. [16] Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
Doesn’t sound anything like his father. I’m really surprised by this. ?? . I’d much rather hear the Word of God booming from his dads voice. I just haven’t heard much Scripture from him at all. I’m not saying it’s not ok, I haven’t studied up or prayed on this yet, but I can say that when I don’t hear the Word of God backing things up, there’s probably a lot of flesh or the mind involved. I’m sad for Chuck Smith Jr I think. But I’m not sad for his father or mother or the marvelous ministry through them. I am forever changed through Calvary Chapel and I long for a good old fashioned Calvary Chapel to PLEASE rise up on Cape Cod!! There are thousands, millions who need it!! Oh God of the universe, God of all creation, the One True and Only God, i lift up Chuck Smith Jr to you and ask that he be filled with all knowledge of Christ and come to peace about his calling. I pray you’d have mercy and grace on Cape Cod and send pastors to raise up a real Calvary Chapel to expound The Word so It can go forth and do it’s work in creating a real, living Body of Christ just like we had at Ffort Lauderdale all those years! We need that here Lord. Have mercy I pray. Send harvesters now Lord. In Jesus Holy Name I pray. 🙏🏼✝️
Different strokes for different strokes. Some people speak truth of scripture without scripture and some, like his dad quoted it . I personally feel for my audience truth is more appealing than chapter and verse. It is still truth.
@@RobertRicciardelli WOW! You are one messed up individual. Saying your truth is equal to God's word...as long as YOU yourself believe it to be true. False teacher you are. Jesus spoke of you..."the blind leading the blind" and you both are going to end up in a ditch.
We can call it many theological things but Chuck Jr merely exhibits a more psychologically, soul oriented liberal theology. Its not new. Its sad but its not new. They rather look down on simple Full Gospel people and seek to make sure everyone knows THEY have evolved from that into a more sophisticated way of church.
I was a part of the late Calvary Chapel movement in the early eighties. Movements come and go. But the Word of God lives on and does it’s work by dividing between soul and Spirit and unfortunately for Chuck Jr he is showing to much of the soul instead of the Spirit of Truth. I agree with the previous comment that there is a “Jezebel” spirit that is influencing the church today. It’s a spirit that manipulates and seduces with a nuance of the truth. Nothing is forbidden and all is acceptable. It’s devilish! Let’s rebuke it! Jesus said that if we repent from this he will give us power over the nations! Revelation 2:19-28 KJV
I disagree. God is changing the game and setting peeople free from the lies of Evangelicalism. He is taking His name back. He is Love, He is Grace, He is Mercy, and that squashes all judgment.
Robert 1 Peter 4:17,18 states the following- For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? I’m in the middle between evangelicals and charismatics and I do not divide the two. Each has a purpose.... Jesus said of John the Baptist who never performed a miracle, “Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:....” John was the plow and Jesus was The sower. Let’s work with the evangelicals who plow and we sow and God gives the increase!
@@RobertRicciardelli You are totally wrong. You have fallen for the satanic deceiption of the great apostasy in the Last Days before the rapture of the Church. The Bible warns about deceiving spirits disguising themselves as angels of light, and those giving heed to doctrines of demons. "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber."- 2 Pet. 2: 1-3 Learn the Parable of the Ten Virgins, five were wise and five were foolish. - Mat. 25: 1-13 . The Lord Jesus said, "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."- Luke 21:36 . Repent you blasphemous deceiver, lest your name be erased from the Book of Life! "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"- Isaiah 5:20
@@factstruth1520 the Church will not be raptured, except for on the day of judgement, do not be decieved by such false gospels. Remember, Charismania's favored verse, "I can do all things through a verse taken out of context."
Your almillennialist view is not Biblical. Obviously you lack comprehensive hermeneutics of Biblical eschatology. You have been deceived by rebellious and prideful souls who have purposely misinterpreted God's Holy Word of which they will face judgment.
Jesus blew and said accept the Holy Spirit! Holy Spirit originally is Holy Breath ! When John was in the Spirit ( Holy Breath) he saw Jesus in heaven! Adam became alive when God blew His Spirit in Him! When people get raised from dead someone ask the Breath of Life ( Holy Spirit) to fill that person. Who gave the life to you and when you became living person? God! It is not happened just because it by satan!
Have you ever thought why traditional churches are extremely different from the church that was in Book of Acts? I know because we led astray little by little when many simple things they had ceased and some very impossible to have! Many doctrines that we think are super holy was stolen from pagan religions like stoic religion, Roman religion! Father God was not presented as bloody angry God with the beard and grey hair! Father is not angry while He is Holy! Actualy God is holy Love but not Judgement ! We don't pay attention that sin brought aging ( Father is not old but eternal) , sickness ( yes sickness is the sin result originally that is why Jesus took our sins and we are heald by it)
Hmmm...Why would the word "meditation" make people uncomfortable? Is it because it sounds Catholic? Do you actually believe that Jesus, our Lord and Savior did not meditate to commune with the Father? Why reinvent the wheel that our Lord started. Just because the church fathers and Catholics have been doing so for two thousand years. I encourage you not to throw away the baby with bath water. Read about the church Fathers, read about holy, living Christians of the last two thousand years and their experiences with meditation and communion with God. Learn about "Lectio Divina", yes, a method of meditation used by Catholics. Then, walk away with what God wants for you without dismissing without holy exploration.
I believe what what the main issue is they didn’t let the Holy Spirit move. They didn’t welcome the Holy Spirit. They quints the spirit but I’m not letting it move at all. I think that is wrong and they’re gonna have to stand before God for it because you stop the Holy Spirit from moving quench in the spirit where he can’t move so you’re fighting against God I’m not letting the Holy Spirit move. Lonnie has some issues that they couldn’t deal with. He needed deliverance but he needed healing, but they didn’t know nothing about that back then, so Lonnie love Jesus but he needed deliverance if the Holy Spirit was using Lonnie, but Chuck would not let the Holy Spirit use. Lonnie because of his beliefs so that’s good get to the point the point is the Holy Spirit with quince. It was not welcome to move.
Matthew 6:7 NASB [7] "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.
Pt 1 was very good. Appreciated the history. Pt 2 is scattered unfocused. Chuck Smith Sr was the best, a Pastor of Pastors. He stayed focused IN God's Word always, & in service to many! This is diluted & odd :(
@@edanderson8087 Annoying, yes, but even more than that, he is encouraging people to remain dead in their sin. I just don't get that. Love snatches them from the fire.
These two guys, Chuck Jr especially, all over the place. Making my head spin. And Chuck Jr's little biblical analogies are a kin to what his dad called "Sermonetts for Christianetts" (I think he borrowed it from J Vernon McGee. This little interview/ dialog was a huge waste of time. BTW no real Christian is going to not love a person with gay tendencies, or shunned them out of the church. But a real church will help said practicing homosexual-newborn Christian to get whole and walk away from that lifestyle. Chuck Jr seems to say he believes a person can be a follower of Christ and a practicing homosexual.....as long as they are monogamous to one person. Really?
Simplicity is very important when we live with Jesus! What I found that walking with God is more experiencial than intellectual, rigid. Evangelical theology became or maybe was in the first place a discipline Stoic ( pagan) kind of like religion when it is all about Jesus who died instead of us and that's why we can have same life Jesus lived as God and man! So many Christians could be free from any addictions they struggle for years just when would accept that facts it is not my discipline but His righteousness Not Mine! And we receive it by faith and by Grace ! Our self-righteousness lead us to sin and it supposed to because without God we are not able to please God! I met many Christians and Messianic Jews who is very aggressively defend living by Law of Moses and so called Commandments of Jesus. Btw, Bible is very clear states that the Law was given to Sinners not to righteous people and the Law make us more sinful but not holy!
Matthew 5:19 KJVS [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
@@GA-qw2oy We are not robots! Christianity is about relationship with Person - Father God! It is not to be a machine that think finding Scriptures! Satan also know the Bible! It is not about right information!
@@GA-qw2oy Give me a scripture when Jesus instead of talking to disciples was quoting scriptures for hours and instead of saying, "Peter ... text" He was quoting 40 scriptures
it is important to understand that we are also a spirit. other religions also understand this and warn the beginner to not open themselves to what they do not understand. look it up. contemplative praying is not a problem for the veteran believer. the problem is opening the spirit when you don't know who the true Jesus is. opening yourself to hear the voice of GOD (re-centering, aligning themselves) and not knowing how to discern is a problem and is dangerous. you can open yourself to other spirits. the bible is not like any other book it is alive. I truly believe this man is seeking GOD and LOVES JESUS. But he can not deny the danger in doing these eastern mystic practices. the LORD warned us not to do as they do. You can be in the presence of the LORD with out inhaling and exhaling and chanting. When Saul sook Samuel after he had passed by using a woman with a divination spirit, Samuel was not pleased. just because something works does not me we should use it. the lord asks us to worship him is SPIRIT and in TRUTH. it is HIS way and not ours. we must show ourselves approved. let us seek HIM diligently.
Comtemplative prayer is what Jesus did and many mystics who have followed Christ since. So this Eastern Mystic practice has nothing to do with those who follow Christ at any level. Trust the Holy Spirit. He has them in His grips now and forever.
@@RobertRicciardelli Sir with all due respect I know the reformation movement, too. And I am not saying that it is wrong. For I don't know only God knows. But the spirit of the enemy will creep in where he can and it will. I have participated in contemplative prayer, where Pastors have guided the congregation in seeking the voice of Yhvh though the Holy Spirit. Where we've been instructed to move our focus on the Light (since Jesus is the light), to open our spirit on recieving from the Father. Prior to being graced with the ability to know the Lord, I came from a new aged, Buddhist, yoga doing culture. I know familar (demonic) spirits. I was trying my best to shut the voice of the Holy Spirit and say this is fine. I did so, because i had been constantly reminded that seeking the LORD this way was an original design of the Father and that other religions had taken this design of the the Father to seek their false gods. So, I believed I can meditate this way. But the Lord shook me in the middle of one of these prayer sessions, in front of the congregation. Though i will not share what happened next, I wll say this as the Lord permits. While we pray this way we can not be ignorant to the presence of the enemy and if you do not know the voice of your Shepherd you will be deceived. There will be demonic spirits pretending to be an angels of light if not the Holy Spirit itself. I am not judging you, I am only telling you to be cautious. I have children. I am certain you do too, so, it makes sense to introduce them really really well to who their LORD and Savior is, first. May the peace and grace of the LORD be with you and your family.
Matthew 7:15-19 ESV [15] "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. [16] You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? [17] So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. [18] A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. [19] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Chuck Jr. tries to justify the unbiblical practice of "contemplative prayer" which the likes of Brother Lawrence emphasized. Pastor Chuck had many theological differences with Chuck Jr. and this was one of them. Chuck Jr. continues to propagate his unbiblical ideology. He spent months indoctrinating himself deeply with the Fraternal Order of Roman Catholic Monks in a monastery in the central California coast. This is all documented in his books and blogs. This direction that he took tremendously grieved his father, as Pastor Chuck would constantly assure the congregation that he did not subscribe to this Emergent and Contemplative ideology which is rooted in Gnosticism. "I love my son, yet we agree to disagree on our doctrinal orthodoxy".
What do you mean by contemplative prayer and why do you think it is unbiblical? Joshua was told to meditate on the law day and night..2 Corinthians talks about how we are transformed from one degree of glory to the next by gazing on the Lord and beholding his glory. These are two biblical examples of what I would see as contemplative prayer - what is your view on these instructions from God's word and how do you do this vs the version of contemplative prayer you disagree with?
We all have a testimony. Seeking and searching is part of any journey. Pastor Chuck Jr. Is seeking a deeper understanding and relationship with God, Jesus and the Bible, like we all should.
Facts and TRUTH, Yeah what could 150 year old Fundamentalism learn from their 2,000 Catholic cousins' traditions? If you're arrogant, absolutely NOTHING! Fyi we want out TRINITY back.
This New Age weirdness has me in deep sorrow. I am glad Papa Chuck can't see what is being done to his flock. The Jezebel Spirit will be judged soon. As for me, I will not tolerate it, according to Revelation 2:20. The just shall walk by faith and not sight.
@@RobertRicciardelli I'm sure Pastor Chuck mellowed a lot in his older years. And I'm sure Pastor Chuck was proud of all his kids, no matter what. One of my sisters was a lying, drug addicted biker girl. My dad still told everyone that he was proud of her. Pastor Chuck may have mellowed, but I'm sure he never wavered on the Word of God.
@@davidbrownell698 The word of God beyond ones interpretation of the Bible. It says we will know Him in Spirit and Truth, not Man's Scribing and rescribing written text through the generations .Read the Dead Sea Scrolls. We must follow spirit and Truth and not Evangelical mumbo jumbo that has created 40,000 variations of doctrine all read from the very same errant written text.
@@RobertRicciardelli Just as in your video.. your reply to me makes little sense. And what sense I could make of your post-is not true. God does not change. That is "truth" God's Word does not change is also truth. What does Dead Sea Scrolls have to do with it? They confirm the written word we have- the bible- to be true and accurate and has not changed since God gave it to us. Your little chat with Chuck Jr implies that you have "new understanding" into God's word. As for Pastor Chuck. As I stated previously : there's a reason Pas Chuck removed his son from being Pastor of his church, that is Chuck Jr deviates from the truth of God's word.
@@mjdntn that’s funny. I’ve heard lots of biblical references. They just didn’t give chapter and verses. You may want to listen again for those illustrations and applications
@@californiatravelnurse318 Don't get me wrong. I understand completely what scripture says regarding homosexuality -- from many places in scripture -- including the book of Revelation and what God said about it is true and shall not change. Ever! My dear California Travel Nurse, your position was made quite clear the first 2 or 3 times you posted your statement. 6 or 7 or more times is really not necessary. The clarity of the statement came across the first couple of times. After that, the statement became a broken record and tiresome because it came across that it was the only thing that could be posted.
Huministic mumbo jumbo, Based in Eastern religious practices such as Yoga. “Re-centering, contemplating etc… They’re not talking about the same biblical words spoken in the bible such as “meditate on the word” The church needs to repent and turn from these new doctrines of demons.
I grew up in Calvary Chapel and then the Vineyard churches and I always loved both! I like the way Calvary goes through Bible scripture and I love the Power of the Holy Spirit in the Vineyard. I miss how the vineyard was back in the 80’s and 90’s. I personally saw people healed of cancer and asthma. This is such a great video I wish I had found this sooner
though be careful. Chuck Sr. considered Chuck Jr.'s beliefs about homosexuality to be heritical
@@californiatravelnurse318 please clarify
@@alanpatterson5345 Chuck Jr believes homosexuality is fine
check senior took took an opposite stance. he removed his son from leadership bc of his beliefs
@@californiatravelnurse318 as he should have.
@@susanellis4684 I wonder though how many in the ministry sin in secret.
Chuck Jr is much more open in his sharing of the need and place for the gifts than i remember ever hearing in many years in the Calvary system.
Thank You Chuck Jr for such grace, humility and honesty.
not to mention a lot of false doctrine
I attended Chuck Jr's church for over 25 years he is an amazing teacher. Teaching book by book verse by verse. Thoughtful and deep. I am a strong Christian due to his way of teaching he is very charismatic teacher as well.
Thank you Pastor Chuck!
And CC is so limited in it's perspective. Remember, it's the Spirit who brings Life. CC doesn't allow the Spirit to move. Very sad.. it will eventually fail.
@@vdep3 not true of all CC churches. CC in San Antonio Texas is spirit filled
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Chuck jr is not greater than Jesus, sorry to disappoint!
@@piusvapor I agree with you but your comment you say you are "sorry" but you aren't being truthful in that statement, do you think you spoke to me out of love???? Check yourself
Guys , just let God sort this stuff out when the Lord returns. I hope we can all agree that God's plan supersedes all churches and groups and the main thing is the return of God's Sheep to their Shepherd. No need to argue theology or one leader vs another. Thanks 🙏
"Where God guides, God provides!" Chuck Smith
So refreshing in so many ways from an ex Calvary and present Vineyard guy. Grateful of both heritages.
Chuck Sr. considered Chuck Jr.'s beliefs about homosexuality to be heritical
~Yes, we all know Jesus meditated!~Im so glad to hear this discussed & encouraged!!!~
I tend to think about this rest and walk with God moment to moment as "walking in the Spirit" great discussion . 8v been working this in my own for 54 years and still practicing and learning every day.
Chuck Smith Jr was brave and spirit filled when he spoke honestly about his beliefs re: spiritual needs of EVERYONE. God loves EVERYONE.
I was the worship leader at Calvary Chapel Whittier, a thriving church pastored by John McClure, a gifted Bible teacher. When Lonnie came to Yorba Linda, it started the Calvary/Vineyard split, which broke my heart. No doubt Lonnie was good at what he does. What is it that he does? Group hypnosis? Bringing The Holy Spirit? He sparked TWO of the largest Christian movements in California history. Chuck Jr has a good take on it, I think.
Matthew 7:15-23 KJVS
[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I have watched Part 1; Part 2 shows me that Chuck Smith Jr has more wisdom, knowledge, and experience of Christianity; his Dad raised him very well. I am very impressed with both the son adn the father. Thanks be to God! Lord Jesus, Son of the Living God, have mercy on us sinners.
Maybe the lecture hall norm of Christian meetings needs to morph into the fellowship norm found in Matthew 23:8-11 and 1 John 1:3-4 where everyone gets to use their gifts for the common good.
This is a great interview. I don't find it scattered at all....this is good.
3:10 Brings up John Wimber
4:45 "When Lonnie spoke it was like a monsoon hit.."
5:45 "we try to keep a lid on it"
Thanks to Chuck Jr
He is bringing a word that lifts us up
Wow did I need to hear this
My dad knew chuck smith from angelus temple from the aimee McPherson days
Been a Christian for over 40 years and very active in the word and the Spirit - this is lovely. I'm Jesus Revolution overflow traffic! 😉 I find if I can't be still with Him, I get lost in activity. As Lonnie used to pray, "Come Holy Spirit". It starts in my room with the door closed. Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come!" And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life. 🙏 If it's hard to understand, watch Heidi Baker in a private place and do as she does, she's good at leading you in. And REST. ♥ Thank you, Robert.
I learned how to bring the kingdom works to life outside the church. The meat is in the streets. Thanks to both movements.
Chuck Smith Jr is not using the word "meditation" (a lot of Christians would freak out!), yet meditation is exactly what he's describing!
Like Psalm 1:4-3 says, "But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law he meditates day and night. He shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that brings forth its fruit in its season, whose leaf also shall not wither; and whatever he does shall prosper."
The Bible tells us to meditate.
@@loreneedwards6215 to meditate on THE WORD day and night, not just anything!
And the word "meditation" used in O.T. Bible.
Powerful question of what is knowing compared to being.
Thank you,
There is reading scriptures and there is BEING, understanding the subtle meanings between the two is the key to going into the kingdom within.
Once the mind's habit of separation from all that is created on this earth is abolished from within by understanding that all was created for a purpose and thus were not created with any human bias then heaven on earth can be glimpsed at.
Walking in the spirit, Let me stay hear
Im glad you talked about the music. Wimbur's band was good. Wasn't it Carl Tuttle? We had a pretty good band at Calvary-Later-Vineyard Whittier. It was a good church. The Vineyard split, Wimbur, Lonnie, destroyed that Whittier church. It was sad.
I was in Vineyard in 1994 to 1996 when they were moving in the Renewal like Toronto Vineyard.
Hello Robert, I'm new to your channel I found it because of your great discussions here about so many important aspects with Chuck
What I noticed is that right after these videos you have pretty much stopped making videos except for family matters and your wonderful and beautiful "faith in yourself " video.
I have to tell you that I think there should have been a part 3 to your talks with Chuck and your inspired vocalization of perhaps a new ministry might be formed along the lines of scripture plus walking with God if you remember.
I think you both were into something there and on to something that I basically walking alone with God ( meaning I'm not part of any church or organization for 54 years ,I'm 68 now)
I wonder why you did not move on this inspiration and either focus on your channel here or even start this ministry or a book or a class . You and Chuck working together brought out some profound insights that I might say through ignorance of all denominations and groups are not represented among believers in Christ ( sorry if there are i mean no disrespect)
I want to know if you were pressured to stop talking about this (or perhaps Chuck was) because the "Pharasees and Saduseez" of our time may have put pressure on you.
Regardless... if you see this I think it was on your mind 7 months ago when you made the short but powerful Faith video.
Maybe it is time to get going again and again I'm sorry to be presumptuous here. But I'm needing to fellowship with like-minded folks again and just started to get involved with a small neighborhood church called Waypoint where it seems to be happening .
Love yo hear your thoughts on this Brother! Agape🙏👍👌👋💞
Add, what Chuck says is not a waste of time as someone below said.
I love Calvary chapel and I love Chuck Smith and I love Greg Laurie and I love Jack Hibbs Bible teaching but I don’t like it when they quench the spirit the Holy Spirit they Quansett, and then they need to repent repent. They’re fighting against God when they don’t let the Holy Spirit move.
We cannot enter God's rest because of unbelief (Hebrews 3:18-19 (the whole chapter is good)). This is why (see James 4:7-8) we're told to submit ourselves to God and to resist the devil who plants unbelief in our thought life. We need to be totally Jesus' by removing double mindedness from our lives. Jesus had to be with His Father in order to live the life He was asked to live. Also, for me, Romans 8:28 has changed my CPTSD life filled with chronic, severe migraines. God is allowing these to teach me to totally depend on Him, to know Him to that degree and to thank and praise Him in all things (Ephesians 5:20).
Was it ?
DO NOT RELEGATE the bride to the "afterglow."
It’s not a linear thing...🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
when Scripture is this clear its definitely linear 1 Corinthians 6:9
I appreciated Calvary Chapel. I experienced the presence of the Holy Spirit & saw ppl healed at Calvary Chapel. I don’t understand CSJr’s view.
Chuck Sr. considered Chuck Jr.'s beliefs about homosexuality to be heritical
@@californiatravelnurse318 why do you feel the need to say this after every positive response. Please…. You made your point and you don’t have any likes. People are not interested in what his father did. There is an interest in what he is saying. Can you pls refrain from being repetitive? It’s really annoying.
@@tedbless8237 I am not 12, why would I care about likes ? And if I am not talking directly to you, why do you care ?
2 Corinthians 5:7 KJVS
[7] (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
2 Timothy 2:15 KJVS
[15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Matthew 5:13-16 NASB
[13] "You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men. [14] "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; [15] nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. [16] Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
Are all Calvary Chapels part of the ecumenical movement? Disheartening to learn the true history of Calvary chapel and the vineyard.
No. There is a split. It is all online.
@@joinjen3854 Chuck Sr. ousted Chuck Jr. from his position of leadership bc of his views on homosexuality
@@californiatravelnurse318 yes, I saw that. It was much more than the homosexual issue. Jr seems to have become a mystical Catholic.
@@joinjen3854 how so ?
@California Travel Nurse just listen to him. His beliefs are not those of Calvary Chapel. More Ecumenical and Roman Catholic with new age.
Doesn’t sound anything like his father. I’m really surprised by this. ?? . I’d much rather hear the Word of God booming from his dads voice. I just haven’t heard much Scripture from him at all. I’m not saying it’s not ok, I haven’t studied up or prayed on this yet, but I can say that when I don’t hear the Word of God backing things up, there’s probably a lot of flesh or the mind involved. I’m sad for Chuck Smith Jr I think. But I’m not sad for his father or mother or the marvelous ministry through them. I am forever changed through Calvary Chapel and I long for a good old fashioned Calvary Chapel to PLEASE rise up on Cape Cod!! There are thousands, millions who need it!! Oh God of the universe, God of all creation, the One True and Only God, i lift up Chuck Smith Jr to you and ask that he be filled with all knowledge of Christ and come to peace about his calling. I pray you’d have mercy and grace on Cape Cod and send pastors to raise up a real Calvary Chapel to expound The Word so It can go forth and do it’s work in creating a real, living Body of Christ just like we had at Ffort Lauderdale all those years! We need that here Lord. Have mercy I pray. Send harvesters now Lord. In Jesus Holy Name I pray. 🙏🏼✝️
Different strokes for different strokes. Some people speak truth of scripture without scripture and some, like his dad quoted it . I personally feel for my audience truth is more appealing than chapter and verse. It is still truth.
@@RobertRicciardelli
WOW!
You are one messed up individual.
Saying your truth is equal to God's word...as long as YOU yourself believe it to be true.
False teacher you are.
Jesus spoke of you..."the blind leading the blind" and you both are going to end up in a ditch.
@Your Cell Phone
How is telling it like it is and speaking the truth "judgemental"?.
It's not.
We can call it many theological things but Chuck Jr merely exhibits a more psychologically, soul oriented liberal theology. Its not new. Its sad but its not new. They rather look down on simple Full Gospel people and seek to make sure everyone knows THEY have evolved from that into a more sophisticated way of church.
@@davidbrownell698 If its contrary to God's word. It is not truth.
I see one problem that many people in Calvary Chapel made Chuck Smith idol they cannot set aside as the person who was wrong!
1 Timothy 5:19 NASB
[19] Do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the basis of two or three witnesses.
I enjoyed part 1 and was hoping that this part was a continuation of THAT conversation. This part is chuck Jr and his New Age mumbo jumbo.
Chuck Sr. considered Chuck Jr.'s beliefs about homosexuality to be heritical
Lonnie has written 3 books with roger sachs! Really very good!!!! Answers your questions🤗 he was never gay nor did he promote that lifestyle....
I was a part of the late Calvary Chapel movement in the early eighties. Movements come and go. But the Word of God lives on and does it’s work by dividing between soul and Spirit and unfortunately for Chuck Jr he is showing to much of the soul instead of the Spirit of Truth. I agree with the previous comment that there is a “Jezebel” spirit that is influencing the church today. It’s a spirit that manipulates and seduces with a nuance of the truth.
Nothing is forbidden and all is acceptable.
It’s devilish!
Let’s rebuke it!
Jesus said that if we repent from this he will give us power over the nations! Revelation 2:19-28 KJV
I disagree. God is changing the game and setting peeople free from the lies of Evangelicalism. He is taking His name back. He is Love, He is Grace, He is Mercy, and that squashes all judgment.
Robert 1 Peter 4:17,18 states the following-
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
I’m in the middle between evangelicals and charismatics and I do not divide the two. Each has a purpose....
Jesus said of John the Baptist who never performed a miracle,
“Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist:....”
John was the plow and Jesus was The sower. Let’s work with the evangelicals who plow and we sow and God gives the increase!
@@RobertRicciardelli You are totally wrong. You have fallen for the satanic deceiption of the great apostasy in the Last Days before the rapture of the Church. The Bible warns about deceiving spirits disguising themselves as angels of light, and those giving heed to doctrines of demons. "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber."- 2 Pet. 2: 1-3 Learn the Parable of the Ten Virgins, five were wise and five were foolish. - Mat. 25: 1-13 . The Lord Jesus said, "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."- Luke 21:36 . Repent you blasphemous deceiver, lest your name be erased from the Book of Life! "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"- Isaiah 5:20
@@factstruth1520 the Church will not be raptured, except for on the day of judgement, do not be decieved by such false gospels. Remember, Charismania's favored verse, "I can do all things through a verse taken out of context."
Your almillennialist view is not Biblical. Obviously you lack comprehensive hermeneutics of Biblical eschatology. You have been deceived by rebellious and prideful souls who have purposely misinterpreted God's Holy Word of which they will face judgment.
14:54 I take it is what Troubles ppl
Inhale and EXHALE your prayers?? Sounds like a Buddist monk speaking. God help the Church!
Jesus blew and said accept the Holy Spirit! Holy Spirit originally is Holy Breath ! When John was in the Spirit ( Holy Breath) he saw Jesus in heaven! Adam became alive when God blew His Spirit in Him! When people get raised from dead someone ask the Breath of Life ( Holy Spirit) to fill that person. Who gave the life to you and when you became living person? God! It is not happened just because it by satan!
Have you ever thought why traditional churches are extremely different from the church that was in Book of Acts? I know because we led astray little by little when many simple things they had ceased and some very impossible to have! Many doctrines that we think are super holy was stolen from pagan religions like stoic religion, Roman religion! Father God was not presented as bloody angry God with the beard and grey hair! Father is not angry while He is Holy! Actualy God is holy Love but not Judgement ! We don't pay attention that sin brought aging ( Father is not old but eternal) , sickness ( yes sickness is the sin result originally that is why Jesus took our sins and we are heald by it)
Thats why its called the present because its a present!!!!
Hmmm...Why would the word "meditation" make people uncomfortable? Is it because it sounds Catholic? Do you actually believe that Jesus, our Lord and Savior did not meditate to commune with the Father? Why reinvent the wheel that our Lord started. Just because the church fathers and Catholics have been doing so for two thousand years. I encourage you not to throw away the baby with bath water. Read about the church Fathers, read about holy, living Christians of the last two thousand years and their experiences with meditation and communion with God. Learn about "Lectio Divina", yes, a method of meditation used by Catholics. Then, walk away with what God wants for you without dismissing without holy exploration.
Matthew 6:7 KJVS
[7] But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do : for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Calvary Chapel pastors felt "uncomfortable".
I'd suggest "jealous" is a better description.
The gift of discernment......he is disconnected from God the Father..Jesus and The Holy Spirit
@@katmarino4120
"He" who?
We could guess, but why bother?
I believe what what the main issue is they didn’t let the Holy Spirit move. They didn’t welcome the Holy Spirit. They quints the spirit but I’m not letting it move at all. I think that is wrong and they’re gonna have to stand before God for it because you stop the Holy Spirit from moving quench in the spirit where he can’t move so you’re fighting against God I’m not letting the Holy Spirit move. Lonnie has some issues that they couldn’t deal with. He needed deliverance but he needed healing, but they didn’t know nothing about that back then, so Lonnie love Jesus but he needed deliverance if the Holy Spirit was using Lonnie, but Chuck would not let the Holy Spirit use. Lonnie because of his beliefs so that’s good get to the point the point is the Holy Spirit with quince. It was not welcome to move.
The Holy Spirit is a HE third person of the trinity
Hosea 4:6 KJVS
[6] My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: …
Revelation 19:10 KJVS
[10] …for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
2 Corinthians 5:7 KJVS
[7] (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
Okay...I think in this case...the apple has fallen fall away from the tree. Jr...what has happened to you, dude? You sound like a new age guru.
amen Chuck Sr. considered Chuck Jr.'s beliefs about homosexuality to be heritical
Matthew 6:7 NASB
[7] "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.
Pt 1 was very good. Appreciated the history. Pt 2 is scattered unfocused. Chuck Smith Sr was the best, a Pastor of Pastors. He stayed focused IN God's Word always, & in service to many! This is diluted & odd :(
"deception" is the word you're looking for.
when i look at the interviewer's videos... he is more a Joel Osteen (theology?) guy.. anoying wuite honestly
@@edanderson8087 Annoying, yes, but even more than that, he is encouraging people to remain dead in their sin. I just don't get that. Love snatches them from the fire.
Chuck Smith would have thought Jesus was 'flamboyant' too LOL.
These two guys, Chuck Jr especially, all over the place.
Making my head spin.
And Chuck Jr's little biblical analogies are a kin to what his dad called "Sermonetts for Christianetts" (I think he borrowed it from J Vernon McGee.
This little interview/ dialog was a huge waste of time.
BTW no real Christian is going to not love a person with gay tendencies, or shunned them out of the church.
But a real church will help said practicing homosexual-newborn Christian to get whole and walk away from that lifestyle.
Chuck Jr seems to say he believes a person can be a follower of Christ and a practicing homosexual.....as long as they are monogamous to one person.
Really?
Yes and God is okay with this.
@@RobertRicciardelli NO, God is NOT OK with this.
@@RobertRicciardelli You're smart enough guy that if you had a scriptural basis to say that you would quote it. You don't, because you can't.
@@RobertRicciardelli Robert stop being a biblical or a so called "biblical"chameleon.
“If we say we have fellowship with Him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth” 1 John 1:6
I think most people are just playing church
Agreed ... Silly stuff
Simplicity is very important when we live with Jesus! What I found that walking with God is more experiencial than intellectual, rigid. Evangelical theology became or maybe was in the first place a discipline Stoic ( pagan) kind of like religion when it is all about Jesus who died instead of us and that's why we can have same life Jesus lived as God and man! So many Christians could be free from any addictions they struggle for years just when would accept that facts it is not my discipline but His righteousness Not Mine! And we receive it by faith and by Grace ! Our self-righteousness lead us to sin and it supposed to because without God we are not able to please God! I met many Christians and Messianic Jews who is very aggressively defend living by Law of Moses and so called Commandments of Jesus. Btw, Bible is very clear states that the Law was given to Sinners not to righteous people and the Law make us more sinful but not holy!
Matthew 5:19 KJVS
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
2 Corinthians 5:7 ESV
[7] for we walk by faith, not by sight.
@@GA-qw2oy We are not robots! Christianity is about relationship with Person - Father God! It is not to be a machine that think finding Scriptures! Satan also know the Bible! It is not about right information!
@@GA-qw2oy Give me a scripture when Jesus instead of talking to disciples was quoting scriptures for hours and instead of saying, "Peter ... text" He was quoting 40 scriptures
it is important to understand that we are also a spirit. other religions also understand this and warn the beginner to not open themselves to what they do not understand. look it up. contemplative praying is not a problem for the veteran believer. the problem is opening the spirit when you don't know who the true Jesus is. opening yourself to hear the voice of GOD (re-centering, aligning themselves) and not knowing how to discern is a problem and is dangerous. you can open yourself to other spirits. the bible is not like any other book it is alive. I truly believe this man is seeking GOD and LOVES JESUS. But he can not deny the danger in doing these eastern mystic practices. the LORD warned us not to do as they do. You can be in the presence of the LORD with out inhaling and exhaling and chanting. When Saul sook Samuel after he had passed by using a woman with a divination spirit, Samuel was not pleased. just because something works does not me we should use it. the lord asks us to worship him is SPIRIT and in TRUTH. it is HIS way and not ours. we must show ourselves approved. let us seek HIM diligently.
Comtemplative prayer is what Jesus did and many mystics who have followed Christ since. So this Eastern Mystic practice has nothing to do with those who follow Christ at any level. Trust the Holy Spirit. He has them in His grips now and forever.
@@RobertRicciardelli Sir with all due respect I know the reformation movement, too. And I am not saying that it is wrong. For I don't know only God knows. But the spirit of the enemy will creep in where he can and it will. I have participated in contemplative prayer, where Pastors have guided the congregation in seeking the voice of Yhvh though the Holy Spirit. Where we've been instructed to move our focus on the Light (since Jesus is the light), to open our spirit on recieving from the Father. Prior to being graced with the ability to know the Lord, I came from a new aged, Buddhist, yoga doing culture. I know familar (demonic) spirits. I was trying my best to shut the voice of the Holy Spirit and say this is fine. I did so, because i had been constantly reminded that seeking the LORD this way was an original design of the Father and that other religions had taken this design of the the Father to seek their false gods. So, I believed I can meditate this way. But the Lord shook me in the middle of one of these prayer sessions, in front of the congregation. Though i will not share what happened next, I wll say this as the Lord permits. While we pray this way we can not be ignorant to the presence of the enemy and if you do not know the voice of your Shepherd you will be deceived. There will be demonic spirits pretending to be an angels of light if not the Holy Spirit itself. I am not judging you, I am only telling you to be cautious. I have children. I am certain you do too, so, it makes sense to introduce them really really well to who their LORD and Savior is, first. May the peace and grace of the LORD be with you and your family.
I heard thet Chuck jr was the one telling Wimber that Lonnie had gay issues ? Thats soooo sad !
Matthew 7:15-19 ESV
[15] "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. [16] You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? [17] So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. [18] A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. [19] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Who is the false prophet ?@@GA-qw2oy
Kundilini
Some truth, then some gobbledegook
He has been deceived..pray for him!!!!
Chuck Jr. tries to justify the unbiblical practice of "contemplative prayer" which the likes of Brother Lawrence emphasized. Pastor Chuck had many theological differences with Chuck Jr. and this was one of them. Chuck Jr. continues to propagate his unbiblical ideology. He spent months indoctrinating himself deeply with the Fraternal Order of Roman Catholic Monks in a monastery in the central California coast. This is all documented in his books and blogs. This direction that he took tremendously grieved his father, as Pastor Chuck would constantly assure the congregation that he did not subscribe to this Emergent and Contemplative ideology which is rooted in Gnosticism. "I love my son, yet we agree to disagree on our doctrinal orthodoxy".
gnostic... anyway, the Lord extricated me out of a group, in which I was ordained, that made allegiance with the Vatican.
What do you mean by contemplative prayer and why do you think it is unbiblical? Joshua was told to meditate on the law day and night..2 Corinthians talks about how we are transformed from one degree of glory to the next by gazing on the Lord and beholding his glory. These are two biblical examples of what I would see as contemplative prayer - what is your view on these instructions from God's word and how do you do this vs the version of contemplative prayer you disagree with?
Seems that Chuck Jr is open to how God can manifest Himself to His creation so that He can reach those searching for Him
We all have a testimony. Seeking and searching is part of any journey. Pastor Chuck Jr. Is seeking a deeper understanding and relationship with God, Jesus and the Bible, like we all should.
Facts and TRUTH,
Yeah what could 150 year old Fundamentalism learn from their 2,000 Catholic cousins' traditions?
If you're arrogant, absolutely NOTHING!
Fyi we want out TRINITY back.
Sounds like too much intellectualized commentary without the Word of God as the central reference.
This New Age weirdness has me in deep sorrow. I am glad Papa Chuck can't see what is being done to his flock. The Jezebel Spirit will be judged soon. As for me, I will not tolerate it, according to Revelation 2:20. The just shall walk by faith and not sight.
So sorry you feel that way. Papa Chuck change a lot in recent years and was very proud of his son.
I have to agree.
Neither of these two are making much sense.
Honestly.
@@RobertRicciardelli
I'm sure Pastor Chuck mellowed a lot in his older years.
And I'm sure Pastor Chuck was proud of all his kids, no matter what.
One of my sisters was a lying, drug addicted biker girl. My dad still told everyone that he was proud of her.
Pastor Chuck may have mellowed, but I'm sure he never wavered on the Word of God.
@@davidbrownell698 The word of God beyond ones interpretation of the Bible. It says we will know Him in Spirit and Truth, not Man's Scribing and rescribing written text through the generations .Read the Dead Sea Scrolls. We must follow spirit and Truth and not Evangelical mumbo jumbo that has created 40,000 variations of doctrine all read from the very same errant written text.
@@RobertRicciardelli
Just as in your video.. your reply to me makes little sense. And what sense I could make of your post-is not true.
God does not change. That is "truth"
God's Word does not change is also truth.
What does Dead Sea Scrolls have to do with it?
They confirm the written word we have- the bible- to be true and accurate and has not changed since God gave it to us.
Your little chat with Chuck Jr implies that you have "new understanding" into God's word.
As for Pastor Chuck. As I stated previously : there's a reason Pas Chuck removed his son from being Pastor of his church, that is Chuck Jr deviates from the truth of God's word.
How very sad that Chuck Smith's son has fallen into heresy and false teaching.
Notice how there's no Bible on the table and how little scripture is quoted? Just Junior's books and the warm fuzzy puffed air of his hollow beliefs.
I will pray for your soul
@@mjdntn that’s funny. I’ve heard lots of biblical references. They just didn’t give chapter and verses. You may want to listen again for those illustrations and applications
For a long time!
Sadly I see broken churches and people
To the owner of this channel: are you a practicing homosexual trying to justify your sin?
Chuck Sr. considered Chuck Jr.'s beliefs about homosexuality to be heritical
@@californiatravelnurse318 Don't get me wrong. I understand completely what scripture says regarding homosexuality -- from many places in scripture -- including the book of Revelation and what God said about it is true and shall not change. Ever! My dear California Travel Nurse, your position was made quite clear the first 2 or 3 times you posted your statement. 6 or 7 or more times is really not necessary. The clarity of the statement came across the first couple of times. After that, the statement became a broken record and tiresome because it came across that it was the only thing that could be posted.
@@stepone6159 did you take a look at who I was addressing in my posts ? it wasn't you
@@californiatravelnurse318 How many times do you have to repeat this? We heard you the FIRST time.
@@mlynnkole448 if I was addressing someone else, and not you, don't worry about it
Huministic mumbo jumbo,
Based in Eastern religious practices such as Yoga.
“Re-centering, contemplating etc…
They’re not talking about the same biblical words spoken in the bible such as “meditate on the word”
The church needs to repent and turn from these new doctrines of demons.