Doom 3 - A Frail Attempt at Fear | Trav Guy

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  • Doom 3 was a divisive game that boasted its technology over its substance, and in turn became the Black Sheep of the franchise. But was the hate deserved?
    Well... Let's see.
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  • @ThatTravGuy
    @ThatTravGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +246

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    • @icyatlasartworks
      @icyatlasartworks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      *"fuck the archviles. Fuck the archviles. FUCK THE ARCHVILES"*
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    • @Futbyron_ES
      @Futbyron_ES 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @moppypuppy781
      @moppypuppy781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *30:00* We all have our shortcomings and I'm sorry about your illiteracy, they have online classes that can teach you how to read so you don't have to worry about being made fun of for not knowing how to read at such an old age.

    • @samiyt8572
      @samiyt8572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His name is doomish guy ya

    • @davidmcbride5357
      @davidmcbride5357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trav can you play two dlc came with BFG edition? Can you make a discord server most of gamers have discord and you can have a fan base.

  • @dawg9691
    @dawg9691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1298

    "What if hell itself is eternal..."
    Hugo: Write that down...WRITE THAT DOWN"

    • @beardizz
      @beardizz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Ayo the pizza here

    • @ekremsait
      @ekremsait 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      666 likes

    • @BaxterAndLunala
      @BaxterAndLunala 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good use of a SpongeBob joke.

  • @lllXanderlll
    @lllXanderlll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1060

    It's really cool that ID basically came out and said that DOOM ³ is in an alternative reality. It's also cool to see the soul cube as an Easter egg in Eternal

    • @SapunMan
      @SapunMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Also in DOOM 2016, Olivia's office.

    • @lllXanderlll
      @lllXanderlll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@SapunMan Yeah true !

    • @Archon3960
      @Archon3960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They'd just validate the fan theory at this point. X)

    • @moeman5122
      @moeman5122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Wait, where is it in eternal

    • @lllXanderlll
      @lllXanderlll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@moeman5122 On his desk in the fortress. I think it's near the old school monitor. Definitely on the desk though

  • @reallycool
    @reallycool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +645

    One thing a lot of people forget is how much computing power this game demanded, and therefore wasn't even playable for a lot of people--imagine getting frame drops when it's just dark all the time. It wasn't solely HL2 that made people think this game is bad.

    • @ThatTravGuy
      @ThatTravGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Oh damn, I hadn't even considered that

    • @Mustang_Dan
      @Mustang_Dan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      My dad went and got me more ram to "run it" when the game was released. I was 14 and this was the first pc game I waited for and got on day one. Having played Doom 1 and 2 when I was way too young on my dad's pc, I NEEDED this new DOOM. Well...I couldn't even play the damn thing it ran so bad on the shit pc my sister and I were sharing at the time lol -even WITH the additional ram.
      Alas with a ps4 port, I am finally playing this game 16 years later...

    • @satisfiction
      @satisfiction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My friend's machine coule run it and he got it (before?) right when it came out. It was amazing.

    • @rahulravishankar3152
      @rahulravishankar3152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Meanwhile doom 1 running on a pregnancy test :

    • @DefinitelyNotATrolldier
      @DefinitelyNotATrolldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah if my modern computer that can run GTA 4 with no optimization mods whatsoever can't handle DOOM 3 You got a big problem with Your engine.

  • @TheLonelyGoomba
    @TheLonelyGoomba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +889

    I was 13 when this game came out and ngl, I found it very scary back then. So I guess it failing as a horror is probably a side effect of the game being dated.
    At the time though, these were pretty much the best visuals in a game I had ever seen, which probably contributed to the scary factor.

    • @AJXTHEWALL
      @AJXTHEWALL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      when i was alot younger i was afriad of the LBP1 wedding stages

    • @Bacony_Cakes
      @Bacony_Cakes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      how did you get it running on a gba

    • @mizuchi-6137
      @mizuchi-6137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It plays WAAAY better in VR

    • @valletas
      @valletas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the reason is that kids are just afraight of everything
      I play a lot of horror games and seeing back to my early days many games i was afraid werent scary at all
      I dont think the game is dated silent hill is dated and its still scary

    • @AJXTHEWALL
      @AJXTHEWALL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@valletas im 13, majority of the stuff people my age think is "scary" i don't. But fear is subjective, its shaped by experiences, so take that into mind.

  • @ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ
    @ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    They should have used roman numerals for doom 64
    *CHANGE MY MIND*

    • @AllknowingUnknown
      @AllknowingUnknown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alright I'll give it a shot.
      NO because not everyone can read Roman!

    • @ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ
      @ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@AllknowingUnknown it's a joke dude. Even if everyone could read roman, using it for the number 64 would be ridiculous.
      Also how can someone not be able to read roman? Just count the lines

    • @AllknowingUnknown
      @AllknowingUnknown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ Fair enough. But I was joking too. I Happen to agree with the sentiment of keeping the Roman numerals.

    • @ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ
      @ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AllknowingUnknown Looks like I was the one that didn't get the joke lol

    • @AllknowingUnknown
      @AllknowingUnknown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ΝικοςΣφυρης-λ7μ Hahaha it happens. I have whoosh moments on the regular.

  • @Wolfkaosaun
    @Wolfkaosaun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +620

    Admittedly, DOOM 3 is a guilty pleasure of mine and I'll stay on this hill until the day I DIE

    • @ghostmangm3059
      @ghostmangm3059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Personally, I think Doom 64 is better. just play with a guide, and don't play with headphones. Those two things combined will drive you insane. I still hear the baby noises.

    • @GratingApes
      @GratingApes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think doom 3 had a lot of "inspiration" from half-life and half-life got it from doom.

    • @creatureman5636
      @creatureman5636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I feel that

    • @bigdaddychemster1201
      @bigdaddychemster1201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Nothing to feel guilty about, Doom 3 is an awesome game. Literally the only legitimate complaint people have is that it isnt Doom 2.5

    • @Funnel2TV
      @Funnel2TV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TBH, the only real issue i have with this game is the weapon designs and the title, doom 64 should've been doom 3, this should've had some subtitle.

  • @CarmeloSantosF
    @CarmeloSantosF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I played doom when I was like 8 and it scared me shitless. Halls of the Damned still gives me the creeps to this day because it is ingrained as scary in my brain.
    Then Doom 3 came and oh boi it was so impressive, it was that fear again. To me it always was a horror/action game. Doom 3 will always have a special place in my heart.

  • @KaptainKommissar
    @KaptainKommissar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    I will defend Doom 3 until the day I die. That game was awesome

    • @aseraphim9813
      @aseraphim9813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Same.

    • @hib7295
      @hib7295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      oh it was alright

    • @romanez7837
      @romanez7837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Liked it more than eternal

    • @hib7295
      @hib7295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@romanez7837 tbh me too

    • @unknownguy8687
      @unknownguy8687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's alright, a bit boring about 3 hours in but would play it again.

  • @satisfiction
    @satisfiction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Doom3 was scary as fuck when it came out. Playing on full surround sound headphones on a beefy machine at 2am -- I cracked a molar in fear when that tentacle arm guy came running at me.
    Fucking Doom3 was legit scary.

    • @R73949
      @R73949 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I played at 3:00am in my dark room, even I turn the lights off 🙄 it was Hella scary experience 😅

    • @fullauto86
      @fullauto86 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Playing the original with the surround sound totally changes the experiance, I wish everyone could experiance it that way with good headphones.

    • @hhjhj393
      @hhjhj393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a young kid the game horrified me. The dark hall ways, the monsters constantly coming out of the walls. Truly felt like I was in hell and there was no escape.

    • @JustinLesamiz
      @JustinLesamiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@satisfiction It was and is one of the scariest games ever made. People acting like it isn't scary are just lying to sound cool on the internet. That isn't anything new.

    • @RugsterClaps
      @RugsterClaps 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustinLesamiz This completely. Ive argued the same with people claiming its a "bad horror game". play it in the middle of the night with the lights out and headphones up loud and say the same. people do the same with movies

  • @dejecteddotangel
    @dejecteddotangel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    Stumbled upon this channel while looking for Doom 3 and this is exactly what I was looking for. Great job!

  • @Snavels
    @Snavels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    34:13 That's Swann, that dude who originally had the bodyguard, and who told us not to call for help

  • @jamescarrino3696
    @jamescarrino3696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    While I haven't played Doom 3: BFG, the general consensus is that it's confused. They changed things to make it feel like the older Doom games with much higher stamina, an independent flashlight, and more ammo. However, Doom 3 was built around a survival horror principle which meant that encounters were designed under the impression that players wouldn't have tons of ammo at any given occasion. As a result, Doom 3: BFG is understood to be too easy and still not enough like a Doom game to be considered better than vanilla Doom 3.

  • @gregalt3405
    @gregalt3405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    "and it looks like hes in a full rubber body suit." dear god, Im having doom annihilation flashbacks.

    • @Totally_not_a_Zaku
      @Totally_not_a_Zaku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thats what i also had

    • @starrystreams3642
      @starrystreams3642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The OG Doom Movie had full body suits more impressive than that.

    • @AydenGonzalez-r3s
      @AydenGonzalez-r3s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@starrystreams3642 with the costumes, i can barely see that they tried, but they did.

  • @hunterketch989
    @hunterketch989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    "And my enjoyment of the game really only peaked about halfway through my 5th recording session when I went to hell."

  • @gabr1elawesome
    @gabr1elawesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    "My Deus Ex review in... 2021"
    Well, where is it.
    Edit: it is here

    • @gabr1elawesome
      @gabr1elawesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @That Skinny boi thank you Bendy

    • @Mecha_Machinehog1
      @Mecha_Machinehog1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “3 months ago apparently”
      -CMB Turret

    • @dum5247
      @dum5247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has arrived-

    • @unfa00
      @unfa00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He delivered.

  • @GRasputin91
    @GRasputin91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This was the first Doom game I ever played and I thoroughly enjoy playing it over and over. The beginning still gets my blood pumping, the radio chatter and the ambient sounds of terror and lighting.

    • @leonardodavinci7425
      @leonardodavinci7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup I think it's excellent! It's especially good on the Switch!

  • @paulrazvan2425
    @paulrazvan2425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Fyi, at the time of release, besides physics, Doom 3 engine was superior to Source. One that comes to mind is the lighting and shadowing is real time in D3 while in HL2 is baked into the level. Also, why are you playing with Compressed textures

    • @ThatTravGuy
      @ThatTravGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The resolution of the textures were high enough that the compressed textures didn't bother Me. I only really care about uncompressed textures if the resolution is low, like in classic Doom, quake, and so on.
      And yeah, the lighting in D3's engine is still really impressive, even today.

    • @TheBrazilRules
      @TheBrazilRules ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But this just reinforces the fact that gameplay is more important, and physics serve Gameplay

  • @TheStygian
    @TheStygian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Not only that but "Betruger" also translates to Betrayer or Deceiver in German.

    • @R73949
      @R73949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My router device name is Dr. betruger 😅

    • @Le-Monade
      @Le-Monade ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats pretty cool. The name Betruger has a nasty ring to it

  • @adamdavis1737
    @adamdavis1737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    This game of basically fried my last gaming PC and I had to play it on the OG xbox as well as half life 2
    However I still love this game to this day and will defend it till I die
    I also preferred the lighting and flashlight mechanics of the original verses The BFG edition
    That being said I don't think its the best doom game or anything I certainly enjoy the balls to the wall games as well. And I'm very highly anticipating Doom eternal

    • @SHADOMEGA7569
      @SHADOMEGA7569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Guess your PC was Doomed at first

    • @adamdavis1737
      @adamdavis1737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SHADOMEGA7569 it got sent straight to hell

    • @Breakaway-ic5gj
      @Breakaway-ic5gj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adamdavis1737 Did you just assume your PCs gender ? Cancelled.

    • @adamdavis1737
      @adamdavis1737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Breakaway-ic5gj all I know is my PC took dongles in dongle ports 👀

    • @z-chan946
      @z-chan946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamdavis1737 it's not too late to delete this comment. Please do

  • @nessdragon
    @nessdragon ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The sentiment that you don't feel like a badass one-man army but a bystander witnessing a story that has nothing to do with you perfectly sums up the Doom 3 experience.

  • @lionocyborg6030
    @lionocyborg6030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    9:47 We still use PDAs in real life: they’re called ipads. The main difference is that an ipad PDA is less chunky than older models, much like how before the 90s and early 2000s, cellphones used to be huge. Doomguy’s PDA and Lara Croft’s one in Tomb Raider Legend actually both resemble ipads, right down to the single big button on the front and the touchscreens.

  • @Larry
    @Larry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Always remember getting excited about the "Duck Tape mod", which attached your flashlight to all guns, also centering it. Just a relief to actually be able to see what you were doing.
    Also bought a pair of Vuzix VR220 VR goggles to play it in VR, but was arse as you couldn't look up or down.

    • @ThatTravGuy
      @ThatTravGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Oh shit, it's Guru Larry.
      I've been watching your channel off and on for many years. Wild seeing you in the comments.

    • @stolenname94
      @stolenname94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Larry 👋 big fan love seeing you everywhere across the gaming community here on yt.

    • @zaprowsdower3911
      @zaprowsdower3911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThatTravGuy based Larry popping into other peoples channels randomly

    • @andersmalmgren6528
      @andersmalmgren6528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should revisit that, one of VRs best games now. I like the SteamVR port on my Valve Index

    • @VaderTheWhite
      @VaderTheWhite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, you!

  • @wilhelmvonberghoff175
    @wilhelmvonberghoff175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The way I personally approach Doom 3 is by seeing it as a doom game except if it was realistic. You're a basic marine and not like a demigod, unlike the recent doom games. The environment was believable and Hell in this game actually felt like something dark and twisted. I also wouldn't say this game failed at doing horror because they are many moments that are downright disturbing and creepy. One detail that makes Doom 3 stand out from all of the other Doom games is its atmosphere and ambience. The sound design is impeccable and if you listen to it, it really makes you feel uneasy. It's a great alternate story of Doom and I honestly think it was very good.

    • @hhjhj393
      @hhjhj393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One thing I always keep in mind is something can be boring and cliche to an adult, but HORRIFYING to a child.
      I mean to me even as an adult I really don't like playing horror games, dead space was so hard for me to get through, System Shock, Bioshock, all these games just are hard for me to do, but man Doom 3 just horrified me as a kid.
      It genuinely felt like I was going to some hellscape nightmare.
      IMO making something that is horrifying to kids is a good accolade. Like this shit helped form my sense of fear so.
      That and Myst, Myst also absolutely horrified me as a kid.

  • @nicoloenricorimoldi7425
    @nicoloenricorimoldi7425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    The Doom 3 theme is just Lateralus by Tool.

  • @deedreaks9015
    @deedreaks9015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    At 0:14 I was vacuuming and I thought someone was in my house yelling at me. I almost shit my pants

  • @creatureslim
    @creatureslim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think the vanilla flashlight made the game more intense having to choose between seeing the environment or using weapons to fire at glowing eyes. Also smacking stuff with the flashlight was satisfying.

    • @JustinLesamiz
      @JustinLesamiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. People looking for realism in Doom are stupid.
      Doom Guy is running around with 7 giant guns strapped to him, and nobody has an issue with THAT.
      I've never understood the need for realism in a game.
      The truth is that the flashlight led to more pants shitting scares and some of these people were cowards that couldn't admit it.

  • @chococheez0
    @chococheez0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I really liked Doom 3, but it definitely didn't feel like any other Doom game.

  • @JoneBone-zv1kr
    @JoneBone-zv1kr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You were actually right about the multiverse thing and how hell is the same for each universe. Doom eternal confirms this

  • @jayn8392
    @jayn8392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Reviewing this game from a modern standpoint is honestly kinda unfair. When it came out it was pretty well loved and a crazy technical achievement. There wasn't this idea that it needed to be just like the other Doom games yet, as people had been playing the original for years and were excited for something new. There was no shortage of action heavy fps Doom clones at the time and when this was announced and details began releasing people were stoked. I loved it when I first played it and so did everyone I knew at the time. It wasn't until years later when the ideas and game mechanics like sprinting and reloading combined with a less arcadey/speedy feel had become completely oversaturated that people started shit*ing on Doom 3 and saying it wasn't a "doom game". We had yet to hit this classic shooter renaissance that has been going on for awhile now and at the time the break from the usual formula was pretty well embraced. I think part of why people feel some sort of way about 3 is also because many people had to wait YEARS to play it because to have the proper experience you needed a serious pc and pc gaming was much more niche. And by then there were a bunch of games that felt pretty simmilar. That, or they weren't off the bottle even when the game released. Idk, I loved it back in the day and have always been a huge fan of the franchise. But saying that, playing it back today, especially after the release of doom 2016 and eternal, it does feel a bit standard and awkward at times. But at the time it was quite fresh and THE pc game for serious players. Even with the release of Half Life 2 it was much more beloved than it is today and not that controversial.

    • @ThatTravGuy
      @ThatTravGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The idea of there already being a ton of fast-paced FPSs and Doom 3 trying to be more unique is an interesting way of looking at it that I hadn't considered.

    • @JustinLesamiz
      @JustinLesamiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're a 100% spot on. Those of us were actually there remember all of this.

  • @supermegabenji1026
    @supermegabenji1026 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fun Fact: They made an Entire Movie based of this Game called 'DOOM' (2005) With No Demons, Story Feels similar to doom 3 a bit, No Doomguy and Dwayne Rock Johnson is in the Movie.

    • @JustinLesamiz
      @JustinLesamiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It didn't have the same story at all...
      It was clearly INSPIRED by this game but that's all.

    • @supermegabenji1026
      @supermegabenji1026 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustinLesamiz I mean, In the Game Sarge gets the BFG just like the movie. So The Story is a bit similar. But not all the same.

  • @VaderTheWhite
    @VaderTheWhite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    It's more than possible to not save that one guy. If you push another button, which I did by accident the first time, he dies a fairly hilarious death

    • @donthasslethehoff5048
      @donthasslethehoff5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is that a fucking MAP flag in your pfp?!

    • @VaderTheWhite
      @VaderTheWhite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@donthasslethehoff5048 Nope, trans pride version of the Alliance Starbird from Star Wars.

    • @donthasslethehoff5048
      @donthasslethehoff5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@VaderTheWhite Sorry, I mixed it up with the MAP pattern.

    • @VaderTheWhite
      @VaderTheWhite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@donthasslethehoff5048 it's okay and I just realized what you meant and eeeeeeew, no, I despise pedophiles!

    • @ythunderboy8694
      @ythunderboy8694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@VaderTheWhite Nice

  • @cheafmin1399
    @cheafmin1399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Like how it was confirmed that it was a different universe with 16 and eternal's releases.

    • @ryancole4015
      @ryancole4015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The cut dialog about 6th and 7th dimensions?

  • @amy_grace
    @amy_grace 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I don't think anyone's arguing that Doom 3 has aged super well, but this idea that it got some kind of lukewarm reception on release is straight-up revisionist history. I was a whole entire adult in 2004, and bought Doom 3 with money from my actual job, and it scared the shit out of me and my roommates. It has an 87 on Metacritic. Retcon that, kiddies.

    • @ThatTravGuy
      @ThatTravGuy  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm going by the accounts of people I'm close to who were adults at the time. I admit, I was unfair on Doom 3, but nothing here is revisionist.

  • @alienatedpoet1766
    @alienatedpoet1766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    So many things that happened in Doom 3. You even said it feels like a proof of concept or a tech demo. I felt the same. I still haven't beaten doom 3 BFG. Even with the re-release I will still call Doom 3, the Quake 4 beta.

    • @leonardodavinci7425
      @leonardodavinci7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doom 3 is incredibly fun especially if you play it on the Switch!

    • @TheFalconlazer
      @TheFalconlazer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually liked Doom 3 more than Quake 4. I thought Quake 4 had too many good ideas not executed well but Doom 3 executed most of it's ideas pretty well.

  • @guillermobiasini3755
    @guillermobiasini3755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Yesterday I finished this game for the first time on my switch. I really like it. The horror feels like "haunting mansion" horror, which I am ok with.
    The biggest and pretty much only flaw in my experience is the lack of enviroments. Until you reach Hell (which is almost at the end of it), the game's levels feels very samey. Other than that, it is a great experience at a great value.

    • @fullauto86
      @fullauto86 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It actually plays good on switch, it’s like the 2nd or third game I got when I got a switch lite. Doom 3 on the go is wonderful, w
      Quake 2 remaster is also awesome on switch, other than that it’s not much good for anything else lol.

  • @deathsteak8562
    @deathsteak8562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember when I first played this game... I love the reloading sound for the assault rifle and the plasma rifle and I used to purposely shoot just so I could reload.

    • @DeadPixel1105
      @DeadPixel1105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The reloading sound for the Plasma Rifle is just so good. One you slap in the new plasma canister and hear that little electronic sound climbing in pitch like the weapon is powering up. *Muah* Chef's kiss.

    • @MRdeLaat
      @MRdeLaat ปีที่แล้ว

      lol me too about the plasma rifle, that sound at the end was nice

  • @TheRealJochen
    @TheRealJochen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Finally!!
    Just got DOOM 3 on PC yesterday

    • @everythingsretros4421
      @everythingsretros4421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you got it a year ago

    • @villager2342
      @villager2342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@everythingsretros4421 yep, he did

    • @huey6248
      @huey6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i’m going to get it on pc at the next steam summer sale

    • @ble7330
      @ble7330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@huey6248 Did you get it b/c original doom 3 is on sale for $1 and bfg edition $5

    • @huey6248
      @huey6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ble7330 thanks for the heads up bro, i actually did get it as soon as the quakecon sale went up

  • @SuperfieldCrUn
    @SuperfieldCrUn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The "To Kill the Cyberdemon: Shoot it until it dies" thing was an entirely fan-made meme. It was done to mock gaming magazines of the time that would often feature obvious or unhelpful advice. It wasn't even acknowledged in the Doom series proper until Doom 2016 named an achievement after the meme.

  • @Trankser
    @Trankser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    22:09 is my most favorite part. It always cracks me up into laughing.

  • @zzjopr
    @zzjopr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    " You fell for the zombie friend prank!"
    *BANG*

  • @JJsiN84
    @JJsiN84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This game DID scare me when I was younger. When it was new, there was nothing else quite like it.

  • @StealthBeeKid
    @StealthBeeKid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Something HIGHLY underrated about this game is the track "mars city" it's so freaking good, it combines emotional elements that we feel (or were supposed to feel anyway) in Doom 3 and Doom in general, it's a mix between suspense, horror, action, story and challenge. This track is so good in fact that Mick gordon remixed and it was going to be in Doom eternal, although due to pacing issues and the track not fitting with the level that is was supposed to play (mars core If I remember correctly) it was removed, but still is here on youtube, it's called Arriving on Mars and it's a BLAST, seriously one of the best Doom tracks ever

  • @thevenomspino
    @thevenomspino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We don't know why but the line "OH HE'S SKYRIM NOW" makes us laugh so hard.

  • @TheGoldenBolt
    @TheGoldenBolt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I could've sworn I'd seen this already but apparently not. Great analysis on this one!

  • @mrnordpool2271
    @mrnordpool2271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Is it just me or does the marine you play as kinda look like Michael Ironside?

  • @PIGselGames
    @PIGselGames ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Something I find funny is that the word "Betrüger" is the German word for Traitor. So Dr Betrüger is just the most obvious villain being essentially called Dr Traitor

    • @denifnaf5874
      @denifnaf5874 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dr kleiner
      Probably has a small di-

  • @PsYDaniel
    @PsYDaniel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Doom 3 was good if you look at it not as the "Doom slayer slaying demons" but a normal marine trying to survive.

    • @iwushsjejjdhdbdhdhdhdh
      @iwushsjejjdhdbdhdhdhdh ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah that's why doom 3 sucks.

    • @BallsOfSteelCockoflead
      @BallsOfSteelCockoflead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@iwushsjejjdhdbdhdhdhdhdoom 3 doesn't feel like a doom game, but more like a horror game. That's why I don't like it

    • @JustinLesamiz
      @JustinLesamiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what Doom is SUPPOSED to be. You were never supposed to be an ultimate badass.
      That's the big thing 2016 and Eternal got really really wrong, and it sucks the tension out of them.

    • @hijous
      @hijous 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@JustinLesamiz play other horror game then. doom is not that.

  • @neonblack211
    @neonblack211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I actually liked the creature design in this, I thought the foreskin monster and the dude on the front cover were creepy and awesome

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Foreskin monster?

    • @MrAnnihilatior86
      @MrAnnihilatior86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh the pinky demon? Shit does look like a foreskin

    • @JustinLesamiz
      @JustinLesamiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@twinzzlersThe Pinky Demon

  • @THEVILLAIN___
    @THEVILLAIN___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    no matter what people say I will always enjoy this game and respect its efforts at becoming a doom game

    • @R73949
      @R73949 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

  • @doomguy6296
    @doomguy6296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Are you kidding about the ending? Doom 3 is a survival horror game more than an action game. I remember finishing the game for the first time, I was so full of joy for surviving this and having rescue team reaching us after closing the portal

  • @blockyvids2
    @blockyvids2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve always thought of Doom 3 as a dark light attraction (with dark being an understatement). Where the intro is the waiting line where you prepare for the ride it sets up. But like an attraction, it looses some of its initial luster after going on it multiple times.

  • @UnabridgedGamer
    @UnabridgedGamer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To be fair, judging the merits of the horror genre by Doom 3 is like judging all sandwiches by consuming McDonalds.

  • @NonEmployee
    @NonEmployee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate the fact in the thumbnail, its Gordon Freeman's hand making that shadow.

  • @factsoverfeelings1776
    @factsoverfeelings1776 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It was really wasn’t divisive when it came out. It was actually very well received.

  • @youngthinker1
    @youngthinker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I suppose the original logo represents the in fighting between John Romero and John Carmack.
    Romero's the soul, and Carmack' the tech.

  • @esmerylan
    @esmerylan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So the one thing I disagree with is your assessment of the shotgun. I never liked Doom 3's shotgun. It felt weak compared to the Doom/Doom II/Doom 64 versions, and the inconsistency in the number of hits it took to kill enemies was even more drastic than before. It also lacked the distance sniping precision of the old Doom shotguns, and I ended up using the machinegun for that purpose most of the time (and to take down zombies with guns). It never made sense to me that they didn't include the super shotgun in the base game and only introduced it in the expansion.

    • @ThatTravGuy
      @ThatTravGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I totally agree (I didn't realize the specifics of how bad it was until after my review), but I think the shotgun works for what D3 is trying to be.
      Not saying it's great, again, I didn't care for the game much anyways

    • @MrOllievirus
      @MrOllievirus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lets be honest Dooms shotgun, whilst awsome, is utterly OP.
      Doom 3's weapons are all designed in service to the horror aspect of the gameplay. The shotgun is a high risk/reward weapon that is devestating at point blank range against imps but ineffective at range. Conversley the machinegun is better at range but takes vital seconds to down foe's. Its actually really good design.
      I often think that ID would of been better served not calling it Doom and changing the enviroment to a spacestation or somthing instead. I often feel that D3 has far more in common with Systemshock 2 than it does with OG doom.

    • @Morningstar91939
      @Morningstar91939 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrOllievirusto be honest, I wonder how the game would’ve been received if it wasn’t part of the Doom series.

  • @supermegabenji1026
    @supermegabenji1026 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This game is a message from the developers telling us what DOOM is suppose to be..Or originally wanted to be. Scary, Horror, and Mysterious kinda like what happened in Half-Life when the Disaster happened in Black Mesa of how "The Horrors of Black Mesa." with all the Dead scientist and monsters roaming around the Lab.

  • @tristenclark1342
    @tristenclark1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    doom 3 is one of my all time favorites. its a bit of a disappointment seeing as its not a tradition style game but they knocked it out of the park with what they intended for the game

  • @slyguythreeonetwonine3172
    @slyguythreeonetwonine3172 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun Fact: Before ID settled on "Doom3" a potential name considered was "Doom: Hello Darkness My Old Friend" but apparently the cost of naming it that in reference to the song was to expensive. They even had a gameplay trailer demo cut up to a dark metal slower version of the song similar to Disturbed's.
    So you know, explains a lot about why the game was so dark. This was something that they had been wanting to do for quite a while, you see evidence of it in lighting in levels from Doom 1 and 2. Romero even brings it back for both Sigil episodes and most likely will for "Hellan" or whatever his new Doom 2 episode will be named. Doom 64 even has it.
    *Source: I made it the f up! 😹😹😹😹😹😹

  • @dominictraver
    @dominictraver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This game did it’s own thing and despite being a deviation from traditional Doom it was amazing for its time.

  • @skqvidz4201
    @skqvidz4201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Play doom 3 on nightmare. Needing to listen and balance weapons based on enemy type made me finally understand the game.

  • @DKlett1
    @DKlett1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Betruger is such an obvious villain his name in german is on letter away from being ,,Betrayer‘‘. I‘m pretty sure the only reason his name wasn‘t just straight up Betrüger was because id had no german keyboards.

  • @ColonelSandersLite
    @ColonelSandersLite ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @8:10 "Actually, that's a good point. Who does this game even appeal to?"
    That throwaway line? IMHO, it's actually the very core problem with doom 3.
    It's a survival horror lite mixed with a corridor shooter all wearing the doom logo. As far as whether or not it's a decent survival horror type game, I can leave that judgement up to people that like those genres more than I do. It's just a fundamentally lousy doom game though.
    To be blunt, if they did not use the doom title, I do think it would have gotten a fairer shake. The doom title did help them market the game, but it marketed the game to the wrong crowd and set expectations in the wrong places.

  • @astrovisionmedia9677
    @astrovisionmedia9677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    When I first started this game I thought the monster models were pretty bad and not scary at all and didn't get why people were saying this was a horror game. Then as I really got immersed in the game I would turn a corner around the quiet facility and I would hear the screams of the monsters and spiders and I would quietly scream wishing for them to stop coming. I would cower in the corner, but they still found me, there was no safe zone. I play on my Switch handheld in my bed with headphones and this game makes me feel so scared to my core and infantile I feel like my mom is going to come in my room and tell me to stop playing video games and go to bed, and I'm a grown man.

  • @FadeToBlackOps
    @FadeToBlackOps ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:40 “If we had a bigger budget…”
    Didn’t the intro say the UAC has an unlimited budget? Lol

  • @stratejic1020
    @stratejic1020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wouldn't say that Doom 3 failed to be scary because this game is freaking creepy, the fact that this game literally laughs at your suffering and it just thinks it's hilarious to throw you in a dark room with a demon that could pop out at any moment through the pitch black and nearly kill you in two hits.

  • @relieved860
    @relieved860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that opening skit scared the life out of me, ,=my door is facing the same direction that knock came from, absolutely terrified me

  • @inactive1925
    @inactive1925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Holy moly! So glad I stumbled across this channel. This channel rocks! Visually pleasing and interactive. :)

  • @OGXenos
    @OGXenos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To be completely honest, what dates Doom 3 the most out of anything else was the original Dead Space coming out four years later. Dead Space, of course, being basically Doom 3's concept but done perfectly and better in every way; a sci-fi space-based horror game with a heavy focus on gore, darkness, and satanic/religious imagery. Having played Dead Space 1 and 2, and then getting around to Doom 3, I can't even touch the game without thinking "Wow, Dead Space did this so much better" every minute of my gameplay.

  • @cinnamontoastboi4017
    @cinnamontoastboi4017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In the beginning I legit thought i knocked something over

  • @Deathstarwhite
    @Deathstarwhite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fun fact, there is indeed a Doom 3 Vr mod that not only allows you to play fully in vr, but also speaking alerts enemies [don't remember if true] and activates Npc dialogue by talking to them directly

  • @andrejhallder1016
    @andrejhallder1016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of best games of my childhood, I was SO scared to play some levels, SO SCARED

  • @RacingSnails64
    @RacingSnails64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    32:33
    A "fuck-me beacon."
    What a horrid term for a boss weakpoint. I must use it for the rest of time.

  • @TheJamesTheory
    @TheJamesTheory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey. Just found you from cloud connection on twitter. Just subbed! 😁

  • @BladeDevil
    @BladeDevil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it’s funny people say, the BFG edition does not preserve the original horror atmosphere of the base game, when neither version is scary in the slightest.

  • @Vinnie_728
    @Vinnie_728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Woah man, you really deserve more subs. This is almost an hour long and you still have just over 1000 subscribers

  • @otaviocamanho1135
    @otaviocamanho1135 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This week i started to play DooM 3 BFG edition for the first time, i was really impressed. Dark corridors, monsters can spawn anywhere, loud noises distrating. The Terror was really well made. Together with some In-game HUDs with light blue color, felt like playing a modded dead space in a way.

    • @fullauto86
      @fullauto86 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s aged like wine I love the visuals of this game.

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Love that your getting more ambitious with your videos.

  • @lewislewis3531
    @lewislewis3531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doom and Doom 2: some of the most iconic enemies of all time.
    Doom 3: Everything is an imp variant, hell knights are steroid imps

  • @marcuslindley8233
    @marcuslindley8233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Best doom 3 review I have seen. You actually talked about the flashlight!
    Here is what I think of doom 3. It is very fun to play. I love it. Especially the flashlight. It's a really good Melee weapon, and
    You are the only horror protagonist to think of using the flashlight as a bludgeon.
    Doom 3 is beyond awesome. It's beyond rad. Doom 3...
    Is dandy.
    ~CGR

  • @ratkingthefurst
    @ratkingthefurst ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the intro of the game it says "the U.A.C has an unlimited budget" but when your introduced to the antagonist he says "if I had more competent staff and bigger budget even these small mistakes could've been avoided" its contradicting and I'm confused on which one is true

  • @Biscuit64
    @Biscuit64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I picked Up Doom 3 For My Switch yesterday as well as with Doom 1,2, and 64

  • @rexosaurus3610
    @rexosaurus3610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've never heard someone act so positively over seeing hell

  • @brokenstar017
    @brokenstar017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just recently found your channel after getting into the doom franchise, and with your mention of John Carpenter’s The Thing (1982), I can’t help but subscribe. That and Mel Gibson’s Hacksaw Ridge (2016) are my two favorite movies of all time. Also, I played this game when I was still pretty new to horror media, so it shocked me a couple times, but for whatever reason, the laptop that I played it on didn’t like to have high brightness, so I ended up having to put the brightness to max and turn up the gamma which kinda ruined the ambience. I also probably let online opinions taint my own opinion on my first playthrough.

  • @postboysgameshack4547
    @postboysgameshack4547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Doom 3 WAS revolutionary and a technical marvel. Half Life 2 was just that much more impressive.

  • @beautifulmeeses
    @beautifulmeeses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember playing this game for the first time and having to have the graphics settings super low, and I finished the whole game like this. A while after, I got a new computer and replayed the game with higher settings and I remember thinking "woah, this game looks really good." I just wasn't used to good looking games.

  • @turdgoblin6113
    @turdgoblin6113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I absolutely adore doom 3! Pre-ordered it, upgraded my rig just to play it. Best doom ever!! I continuously return to doom 3, own multiple copies unopened and opend. Can never get enough doom 3.

  • @gerv55
    @gerv55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The E3 leak was...ironically...more interesting than the final product. The final product just gave us very dated gameplay mechanics even for the day, the real stand out ones being monster closets (somehow the UAC decided to design a base with random hidden closets for imps to hide in??) and pick ups that triggered spawn ins. You basically seen all it had to offer in terms of gameplay mechanics in the first 10 or so minutes.
    When Half Life 2 came out a few months later Doom 3 was basically forgotten about and relegated to a really distant second place.

  • @bigpinkstudios
    @bigpinkstudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    35:40 the sarcophagus that contains the Slayer!

    • @QueenAnnesRevenge-s8n
      @QueenAnnesRevenge-s8n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man has a habit of getting trapped in sarcophaguses

  • @crosby817
    @crosby817 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it was scary asf when i was younger, even now at 21 i got scared a couple of times

  • @Mckinnely
    @Mckinnely ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If the spider mastermind has breasts does that mean spider milk is a thing?

  • @cactusfondler9989
    @cactusfondler9989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I played this on release as a kid I at first thought Half-life meets Deus Ex, but when the audio logs kicked in I knew Carmack and the others were looking at System Shock 2 way too much.

  • @garyredfield1498
    @garyredfield1498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The pinky was the only demon I found scary actually

  • @CricetoFunni
    @CricetoFunni ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Insane how Half-Life 2 came out mere MONTHS after Doom 3 and yet looks 500x better than Doom 3 does today. Not only that, it ran much better than Doom 3 did back in the day. I hope Valve cooks up another full singleplayer game soon so we can get our minds blown again.

  • @MidnightMedium
    @MidnightMedium 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great take! I still forget how to do the teleportation pad thing sometimes because it's so unintuitive

  • @Insanabiliter_In_Linea
    @Insanabiliter_In_Linea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd recommend checking out Doom 3: Phobos if you want to see what a proper Doom game in the style of Doom 3 could've been like. It's a story based custom campaign that completely revamps the combat to be more in line with the previous games, while still keeping the tense, horror atmosphere and also not relying on the ol' "spawn monster behind you and go boo" trick that Doom 3 overuses. The story is very unconventional for Doom, it's more like Soma, but personally I love it and I think it fits surprisingly well into the universe. While I'll admit I do actually love Doom 3, I think people are a bit too harsh on it myself, I do still admit that even I have a few issues with it, namely the weapons, and Phobos fixes all of the complaints I had and it introduces a bunch of cool new shit at the same time. Easily one of the best mods I've ever played.

  • @mathewjackson5044
    @mathewjackson5044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    About the Cyberdemon fight, if you play in Co-op mode you can shoot at it till it dies if memory serves ;)

    • @JustinLesamiz
      @JustinLesamiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doom 3 didn't have a co-op mode.

  • @serbianslav5494
    @serbianslav5494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    22:37
    Bayformers Shockwave was somewhat accurate to his G1 counterpart:
    1. is a cyclops
    2. has horns
    3. has a cannon instead of left hand
    4. is a Decepticon

    • @ThatTravGuy
      @ThatTravGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suppose that's better treatment than most characters got

  • @sir-samuraialot1460
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    Foreskin abomination
    -That Trav guy 2019