I think Winnie C deserves to be a little higher. The drop off damage from compact ammo is abysmal but it’s a lot more forgiving to fish for headshots with 15 rounds in the barrel, high fire rate, and the large amounts of compact ammo you’re provided. With levering you are absolutely lethal at close ranges if you know when and how to use it. I love to bring a silenced nagant with it for stealth and more ammo, and it feels like a very well rounded loadout that struggles at range but can still go up against other long range rifles in a pinch. Easily B tier for me.
S tier: Mosin and Lebel are no brainers, but I don't think the Drilling quite deserves to be up there with them. Sure it's a 2-tap monster, but it still feels awkward to use (and I personally cannot *stand* the reload). If anything, I think the Krag or even Centennial (with HV ammo) deserve it a bit more. A tier: Agree with Vertelli, which is always an extremely solid choice, and can at least accept that Krag and Centennial could be argued into this spot. I've run into so many Centennials with HV ammo recently that maybe I'm just feeling a little biased haha. B tier: Makes sense that all the single shot rifles sit here lol. All very decent guns but, by design, they won't ever be able to surpass semi-automatic weapons (unless you give them insane stats like 1000m/s velocity or something haha). C tier: I think you're being waaaay too harsh on the Berthier and I feel that it belongs in A tier. Maybe low A tier, but it's still a fantastic rifle especially with Spitzer rounds. It has a fast reload, solid damage, and as long as you treat it like a miniature Mosin (aka don't reload until empty) then you can easily work around the silly reload downsides. D tier: I have no feelings about the Winfield lmao F tier: Once again, no feelings about the Winfield, but I also think you're being a little bit too harsh on the Nitro. It has total ass aperture sights by design - otherwise I think it would be too strong. Nonetheless, in the right hands I feel like it's a damn strong gun that is deserving of B tier or even low A tier.
see this is the comments i wanted, you can get your opinions across without being an ass this is perfect! thanks for taking the time to comment bro I appreciate it! i knew people wouldnt totally agree with the drilling at the top spot with the lebel and mosin and thats fine, and honestly i reckon berthier would be a tier easily i just cant get my head around the reload and 3 round mag! i feel it really suffers in comparison to other rifles because of this.
Personally I have never found the Drilling to be cluky or akward to use, quite to opposite in fact. It`s like you say a "2-tap monster" but it also has a great built-in almost Romero style shotgun which is very strong and saved my ass so many times in qcq. The only real downside to the drilling IMO is that it is pretty overpriced seeing as it`s more expensive than a Mosin.
for me tierlist videos only really work by placing the candidates into the tiers one after another instead of listing the ranking right at the start. The tension of where a certain item might end up is very important in my opinion. Just a thought.
Berthier is the only magazine riffle that is abble to use 2 types of ammo. So effectively you can run standart ammo and spitzer/fire and utilize both speical and red boxes for ammo (or get x2 ammo from special if you run spitzed+fire ammo) its have less ammo by desighn because it can replenish through game much more. Ammo box would give x2 ammo this way too by the way, so you getx2 ammo from one your box
I completely agree with what you said about the Berthier, its only bonus over the Moisin and Label is that you can get a Deadeye and Marksman variant, where as the Moisin only comes as a sniper variant and the label comes with an Aperture or Marksman. I personally think that a Deadeye scope has the most utility.
vetterli is always my go-to i just love everything about it, the sound, animations, the crosshair... i know it has its flaws but the vetterli clicks just right for me
Very good content, but i would bump Winnies and Berthier. IF you take traits and cost into consideration at least... Winnies are ultra cheap and versatile at close to mid range with levering. That trait save me a lot into compounds and against melee rushers. Maybe 😊B tier for me. Berthier with bullet grubber solves partially their biggest problem. You still have a low clip, but at least you can reload more often when its safe or even swap ammo if its part of your strategy. Without bullet grubber i agree. Its expensive, low ammo, cant reload often and isnt cheap. Swapping ammo without the trait is also problematic.
I think the winnies deserve a solid b tier since they are not meant for bodyshots, but for headshots. They get high velocity ammo and have (IMO) very good iron sights. That along with the 151 meter headshot range makes the winny a headshot machine in the right hands. The sparks is to opposite of the winny in many ways, it is designed for body shots more than the winny. It`s great in long fights when enemies have lost hp bars and is really a sniper without the scope (we talking base variant.) I really like the video but I`d say that the Sparks should be A tier and the Winny should be B tier
I appreciate you taking the time to comment and giving your opinions in a nice way! most people did not 🤣 turns out a lot of people really like the winnie's
The Winfields should be higher (a or b tier) . They are excellent within compound ranges. With 2 or 3 taps, plus high rate of fire, aim punch and headshot danger make vor decent suppression. They are strongest either within team fights or when getting a drop. Of course levering increases their utility but iron eye for the most part is enough. The c variant has no sway and is one of my favs the non c variants are equally as good though I feel I already fucked up when I need the extra ammo. The long amo repeating rifles are great but I feel they have a higher skill floor to be effective. You need snappy aim and very good movement to be decent as you might get pushed before you cycle the second round. The Winnies don't have that recuirement, when an enemy pushes you can outspam them and when you are in an even fight with a bolt action you are able to put them down before they fire their second shot. Be aware though that this is true for compound fights. As at some point in this game you have to get the bounty.
tbh going off what you said there are plenty of better options to choose from that deal way more damage and are a lot better still in close range as well as long range g, thats why i gave them such a low rank! i understand where your coming from but if your accurate & a decent player the winnie has no chance. again nothing against it i just think there are better options to choose from :) appreciate you taking the time out to comment
My suggestion: Swap B and C Tier. The Berthier has triple the Ammo per clip than any of the three one shot rifles, good damage, super fast repeatikg, the reload takes only marginally longer than the repeating. It might also be that the lebel takes longer to fire 10 shots than the berthier despite having to reload more often.
if the berthier had a bigger mag and it didnt eject all the rounds on a partial reload i would totally have it in A tier g cause its a really good rifle i just cant use it when theres better options like the lebel or mosin ayy
Yes, but now and then you need some change ;-) Initially I disliked the berthier because of the small mag, but it grow on me. All in all, I agree that the Mosin and Lebel are better rifles
Dude, I'm gonna be honest, I just instantly subscribed, after checking if I would listen to your Voice for more than five minutes, cuz there are just so few content creators for this game 🥲
I must admit there arent that many of us but the hunt community has some really talented content creators out there ayy! Appreciate your support though 💪🔥
I agree the springy should be above the winny because of the ammo type. Lets not forget in comparison to other rifles damage the springy even though is medium ammo hits like a long rifle dealing over 130 damage for a medium ammo type. With high velocity ammo its deadly accurate and my go to head banger.
Nitro without shredder - meme tier Nitro with shredder - S+ tier Its like a slug shotgun that oneshots you at 73m and if its not then you under heavy bleed too I also thimk that Sparks is always S tier and cant be moved from there because if anyone have a little scratch now its lethal to them
its only lethal if you hit them high torso and on a moving target at distance most people cant do that so that whole situation is out the window i think my g! but i agree default nitro is a joke but slap some shredder rounds on and its almost like a different gun
Here is what most people don't get about the Berthier: It has the option to take two ammo types. I f you use the deadeye variant you can snipe people with spitzer and then when thery get closer you can oneshot them with normal long ammo because you already killed them once.
oh i think most people understand how strong it is... they just cant wrap there heads around the 3 round magazine and the silly reload ayy but other than that its a solid rifle
your reasoning for ranking the breach loaders low is the same reason i dislike the bolt actions. even if they technically have a magazine, the cycle time of pulling back the bolt limits you for follow up shots or in case of getting caught in cqc. in almost every situation, i'd either like a winny with levering or i'd like a sparks, the lebel and moist nugget feel like an awkward middle ground imo.
nitro is easily one of if not the best rifles without a ranged scope on it if you have shredder ammo in it. The winnie with high volocity and good aim with the recent effective range buff is nasty. teir list rating: 3/10
just saying i only covered default variants... no special ammo just stock standard! so the winnie stock standard is ass without levering or special ammo and the nitro without shredder is just a meme gun that costs $1000 🤣
i think springfield and berthier are A tier. springfield for its price and berthier have good rpm and fast reload time and its great with bullet grabber
@@KilroyPlays its ok to disagree. i just like berthier. its my third most played rifle. first is springfield marksman, second is rival. and i think krag is bad gun for its dmg of 124. you cant one shot if someone missing small bar. its not good enough for long ammo weapon.
this is true! i'll probably do a variants video for all the weapon types after i finish the defaults anyways so dont worry the ironside will have its day soon 👍
Compact winnie's should be much higher i don't know if it's a skill issue but if your good with a winnie you can destroy lobby's and yes before you ask I'm a constant 5* player so it's not lower elo lobby's .
i was just going off defaults not the weapon variants, otherwise this list would be way different g, and no judgement! if you like the winnie thats perfectly fine ayy
I do like most winnies but don't disagree with all you said as would definitely prefer a drilling aswell tbh but I kind of a an addiction to that thing atm.
@KilroyPlays yh your not wrong I like probably 80 to 90% of the weapons in game tbh but probably use cheaper weapons most the time for example I'm a martini lover there is no real reason I have 1.2 mil in game but still end up using cheap shit. Also I hope I didn't offend you in fact I think someone with your ability with a winnie in your hands would destroy especially if I can every know and again. Lol
@KilroyPlays lol not triggered in the sense of what the video is about. TH-cam title and thumbnail culture is so cringe that you think people will be like 'no way I won't be triggered, I gotta see what he has to say!'
The berthiers rate of fire and cycle time with reloading is faster than your long ammo S tier rifles. The reload is a weird thing and the real rifle counter part is 5 rounds which make me question why 3 (to do multiple round options). I think you are under tiering this fast shooting versatile hard hitting rifle. I think velocity needs to be bumped a little and spitzer rounds shouldnt knock the damage down to small ammo damage. 110 for spitzer damage is dumb it should knock at most 10 damage off instead of 20.
see i could get around it if it were 5 rounds like the real life rifle but 3 rounds just boggles my mind! because its such a good rifle but i feel the reload and rounds really bring it down
@@KilroyPlaysnot to be that gun guy but the berthier only had the capacity upgrade during ww1 and the standard pre war carbine was only 3 shots, not entirely sure why but there ya go, would not complain if hunt managed to add a lore friendly extended variant though
agreed, this dude is an idiot. Berthier that low makes no sense, its a long ammo weapon with over 130 damage. Also sparks need to be higher, high A tier, $130 for a 149 damage weapon makes it one of the best money to value ratios in the game.
I think Winnie C deserves to be a little higher. The drop off damage from compact ammo is abysmal but it’s a lot more forgiving to fish for headshots with 15 rounds in the barrel, high fire rate, and the large amounts of compact ammo you’re provided. With levering you are absolutely lethal at close ranges if you know when and how to use it. I love to bring a silenced nagant with it for stealth and more ammo, and it feels like a very well rounded loadout that struggles at range but can still go up against other long range rifles in a pinch. Easily B tier for me.
S tier: Mosin and Lebel are no brainers, but I don't think the Drilling quite deserves to be up there with them. Sure it's a 2-tap monster, but it still feels awkward to use (and I personally cannot *stand* the reload). If anything, I think the Krag or even Centennial (with HV ammo) deserve it a bit more.
A tier: Agree with Vertelli, which is always an extremely solid choice, and can at least accept that Krag and Centennial could be argued into this spot. I've run into so many Centennials with HV ammo recently that maybe I'm just feeling a little biased haha.
B tier: Makes sense that all the single shot rifles sit here lol. All very decent guns but, by design, they won't ever be able to surpass semi-automatic weapons (unless you give them insane stats like 1000m/s velocity or something haha).
C tier: I think you're being waaaay too harsh on the Berthier and I feel that it belongs in A tier. Maybe low A tier, but it's still a fantastic rifle especially with Spitzer rounds. It has a fast reload, solid damage, and as long as you treat it like a miniature Mosin (aka don't reload until empty) then you can easily work around the silly reload downsides.
D tier: I have no feelings about the Winfield lmao
F tier: Once again, no feelings about the Winfield, but I also think you're being a little bit too harsh on the Nitro. It has total ass aperture sights by design - otherwise I think it would be too strong. Nonetheless, in the right hands I feel like it's a damn strong gun that is deserving of B tier or even low A tier.
see this is the comments i wanted, you can get your opinions across without being an ass this is perfect! thanks for taking the time to comment bro I appreciate it!
i knew people wouldnt totally agree with the drilling at the top spot with the lebel and mosin and thats fine, and honestly i reckon berthier would be a tier easily i just cant get my head around the reload and 3 round mag! i feel it really suffers in comparison to other rifles because of this.
Personally I have never found the Drilling to be cluky or akward to use, quite to opposite in fact. It`s like you say a "2-tap monster" but it also has a great built-in almost Romero style shotgun which is very strong and saved my ass so many times in qcq. The only real downside to the drilling IMO is that it is pretty overpriced seeing as it`s more expensive than a Mosin.
for me tierlist videos only really work by placing the candidates into the tiers one after another instead of listing the ranking right at the start. The tension of where a certain item might end up is very important in my opinion. Just a thought.
I will do that for the next one g thanks for the advice! 🔥
Berthier is the only magazine riffle that is abble to use 2 types of ammo.
So effectively you can run standart ammo and spitzer/fire and utilize both speical and red boxes for ammo (or get x2 ammo from special if you run spitzed+fire ammo)
its have less ammo by desighn because it can replenish through game much more.
Ammo box would give x2 ammo this way too by the way, so you getx2 ammo from one your box
I completely agree with what you said about the Berthier, its only bonus over the Moisin and Label is that you can get a Deadeye and Marksman variant, where as the Moisin only comes as a sniper variant and the label comes with an Aperture or Marksman. I personally think that a Deadeye scope has the most utility.
Berthier can bring multiple ammo types, that's what it's got going for it. That's it's quirk. Multiple ammo types in a multiple shot gun.
vetterli is always my go-to
i just love everything about it, the sound, animations, the crosshair... i know it has its flaws but the vetterli clicks just right for me
Vetterli slaps! i personally love the silenced
Very good content, but i would bump Winnies and Berthier.
IF you take traits and cost into consideration at least...
Winnies are ultra cheap and versatile at close to mid range with levering. That trait save me a lot into compounds and against melee rushers. Maybe 😊B tier for me.
Berthier with bullet grubber solves partially their biggest problem. You still have a low clip, but at least you can reload more often when its safe or even swap ammo if its part of your strategy.
Without bullet grubber i agree. Its expensive, low ammo, cant reload often and isnt cheap. Swapping ammo without the trait is also problematic.
Ah, yeah... I agree with Drilling and Martini, but for some reason i cant Win using those weapons, lol
I think the winnies deserve a solid b tier since they are not meant for bodyshots, but for headshots. They get high velocity ammo and have (IMO) very good iron sights. That along with the 151 meter headshot range makes the winny a headshot machine in the right hands. The sparks is to opposite of the winny in many ways, it is designed for body shots more than the winny. It`s great in long fights when enemies have lost hp bars and is really a sniper without the scope (we talking base variant.) I really like the video but I`d say that the Sparks should be A tier and the Winny should be B tier
I appreciate you taking the time to comment and giving your opinions in a nice way! most people did not 🤣 turns out a lot of people really like the winnie's
The Winfields should be higher (a or b tier) . They are excellent within compound ranges. With 2 or 3 taps, plus high rate of fire, aim punch and headshot danger make vor decent suppression. They are strongest either within team fights or when getting a drop. Of course levering increases their utility but iron eye for the most part is enough. The c variant has no sway and is one of my favs the non c variants are equally as good though I feel I already fucked up when I need the extra ammo. The long amo repeating rifles are great but I feel they have a higher skill floor to be effective. You need snappy aim and very good movement to be decent as you might get pushed before you cycle the second round. The Winnies don't have that recuirement, when an enemy pushes you can outspam them and when you are in an even fight with a bolt action you are able to put them down before they fire their second shot. Be aware though that this is true for compound fights. As at some point in this game you have to get the bounty.
tbh going off what you said there are plenty of better options to choose from that deal way more damage and are a lot better still in close range as well as long range g, thats why i gave them such a low rank! i understand where your coming from but if your accurate & a decent player the winnie has no chance. again nothing against it i just think there are better options to choose from :) appreciate you taking the time out to comment
My suggestion: Swap B and C Tier.
The Berthier has triple the Ammo per clip than any of the three one shot rifles, good damage, super fast repeatikg, the reload takes only marginally longer than the repeating. It might also be that the lebel takes longer to fire 10 shots than the berthier despite having to reload more often.
if the berthier had a bigger mag and it didnt eject all the rounds on a partial reload i would totally have it in A tier g cause its a really good rifle i just cant use it when theres better options like the lebel or mosin ayy
Yes, but now and then you need some change ;-)
Initially I disliked the berthier because of the small mag, but it grow on me. All in all, I agree that the Mosin and Lebel are better rifles
i'll have to start using it more often! in a few weeks you'll probably see a berthier video on the channel ayy 😂
Yeah, sounds about right. I would bump Sparks down a tier for the abysmal reload but otherwise I couldn't agree more.
Yeah i thought most people would hate how the sparks isnt top but apparently there triggered by the winnie non c of all things 🤣
Dude, I'm gonna be honest, I just instantly subscribed, after checking if I would listen to your Voice for more than five minutes, cuz there are just so few content creators for this game 🥲
I must admit there arent that many of us but the hunt community has some really talented content creators out there ayy! Appreciate your support though 💪🔥
@@KilroyPlays Damn bro, just woke up and noticed, that you do guides (I definitely needed that)
Yeah i uploads all sorts of videos g
@5:31 "[...] high damage [...]" *Centeniel and Krag being unable to body one tap a downed hunter with their 124 DMG* .... Me: what??
you dont think 124 is high damage lol? 🤣
How is springy higher than the winfield non-c
simple answer... Medium Rounds 🤣
I agree the springy should be above the winny because of the ammo type. Lets not forget in comparison to other rifles damage the springy even though is medium ammo hits like a long rifle dealing over 130 damage for a medium ammo type. With high velocity ammo its deadly accurate and my go to head banger.
Nitro without shredder - meme tier
Nitro with shredder - S+ tier
Its like a slug shotgun that oneshots you at 73m and if its not then you under heavy bleed too
I also thimk that Sparks is always S tier and cant be moved from there because if anyone have a little scratch now its lethal to them
Does not kill unless its a chest shot even with shredder. I didnt belive it until i tried at the range.
its only lethal if you hit them high torso and on a moving target at distance most people cant do that so that whole situation is out the window i think my g! but i agree default nitro is a joke but slap some shredder rounds on and its almost like a different gun
yeah the damage drop off at range is ridiculous
Berthier is straight A tier, lebel is B tier, krag is A tier, Winfield is S
Winfield s tier.... very interesting!
Here is what most people don't get about the Berthier: It has the option to take two ammo types. I f you use the deadeye variant you can snipe people with spitzer and then when thery get closer you can oneshot them with normal long ammo because you already killed them once.
oh i think most people understand how strong it is... they just cant wrap there heads around the 3 round magazine and the silly reload ayy but other than that its a solid rifle
your reasoning for ranking the breach loaders low is the same reason i dislike the bolt actions. even if they technically have a magazine, the cycle time of pulling back the bolt limits you for follow up shots or in case of getting caught in cqc. in almost every situation, i'd either like a winny with levering or i'd like a sparks, the lebel and moist nugget feel like an awkward middle ground imo.
i think it also depends who is using it, if your good with the bolt actions and accurate you stand no chance even with the levering trait on a winnie
nitro is easily one of if not the best rifles without a ranged scope on it if you have shredder ammo in it. The winnie with high volocity and good aim with the recent effective range buff is nasty.
teir list rating: 3/10
just saying i only covered default variants... no special ammo just stock standard! so the winnie stock standard is ass without levering or special ammo and the nitro without shredder is just a meme gun that costs $1000 🤣
i think springfield and berthier are A tier. springfield for its price and berthier have good rpm and fast reload time and its great with bullet grabber
Springfield is very good i agree but i just cant get my head around the berthier reload and low mag count thats the only reason i put it so low ayy
@@KilroyPlays its ok to disagree. i just like berthier. its my third most played rifle. first is springfield marksman, second is rival. and i think krag is bad gun for its dmg of 124. you cant one shot if someone missing small bar. its not good enough for long ammo weapon.
I appreciate you being civil, most comments on this video are super negative!
Martini Ironside is underrated. $158 cost cycles faster than mosin.
tbh a lot of the weapon variants outdo there defaults but it's just easier going off of defaults otherwise the list gets super confusing
@@KilroyPlays that's the point of a tier list, to find those magical good value weapons.
this is true! i'll probably do a variants video for all the weapon types after i finish the defaults anyways so dont worry the ironside will have its day soon 👍
Compact winnie's should be much higher i don't know if it's a skill issue but if your good with a winnie you can destroy lobby's and yes before you ask I'm a constant 5* player so it's not lower elo lobby's .
i was just going off defaults not the weapon variants, otherwise this list would be way different g, and no judgement! if you like the winnie thats perfectly fine ayy
I do like most winnies but don't disagree with all you said as would definitely prefer a drilling aswell tbh but I kind of a an addiction to that thing atm.
yeah people are taking this video so seriously like at the end of the day its mainly just personal preference ayy
@KilroyPlays yh your not wrong I like probably 80 to 90% of the weapons in game tbh but probably use cheaper weapons most the time for example I'm a martini lover there is no real reason I have 1.2 mil in game but still end up using cheap shit. Also I hope I didn't offend you in fact I think someone with your ability with a winnie in your hands would destroy especially if I can every know and again. Lol
Martini is S tier. Nuff said
interesting
Idk about the drilling. Its good but....slow reload. Not enough dmg to redown slow speed with dumdum and high price all bring it down for me.
I feel like most people cant wrap there heads around the drilling, which is fine each to there own ayy! what would your go to rifle be?
@@KilroyPlays winnie cent or silenced vet. Medium is the silenced shorty cent. Although the sway makes it tough.
yeah ever since they added all the special rounds for the cent its been a beast!
Oh No WiLL ThiS TriGGeR Me?!?!?! Asshat.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Triggered from a title I love it!
@KilroyPlays lol not triggered in the sense of what the video is about. TH-cam title and thumbnail culture is so cringe that you think people will be like 'no way I won't be triggered, I gotta see what he has to say!'
It's just a title and a thumbnail relax 🤣
So much color in the thumbnail I thought it was apex legends
I hope thats a good thing 😅
There’s no set form for how to do a tier list. Even one that’s totally wrong
Your opinion good sir!
@@KilroyPlays heck yeah! I really like your style! I mean that.
The berthiers rate of fire and cycle time with reloading is faster than your long ammo S tier rifles. The reload is a weird thing and the real rifle counter part is 5 rounds which make me question why 3 (to do multiple round options). I think you are under tiering this fast shooting versatile hard hitting rifle. I think velocity needs to be bumped a little and spitzer rounds shouldnt knock the damage down to small ammo damage. 110 for spitzer damage is dumb it should knock at most 10 damage off instead of 20.
see i could get around it if it were 5 rounds like the real life rifle but 3 rounds just boggles my mind! because its such a good rifle but i feel the reload and rounds really bring it down
@@KilroyPlaysnot to be that gun guy but the berthier only had the capacity upgrade during ww1 and the standard pre war carbine was only 3 shots, not entirely sure why but there ya go, would not complain if hunt managed to add a lore friendly extended variant though
left out a lot, including the avtomat lol
Its just defaults not variants lol
Ironside is A+ tier in my opinion.
Yeah i agree ironside is really good, this was just defaults, i'll be doing a variants video soon
Nitro Express...F tier...A staple of 6 star play...because it's bad...🤔
Never seen anyone use it in 5&6 Star 🤣
@@KilroyPlays Not being in either will do that.
🤣 so TRIGGERED
Weird way to do a tier list. This is why everyone does them one after another
Glad I did it different then ayy 🤣
@@KilroyPlays for 1k views you do you son
nah your right i will be changing it for the pistols video g thanks for the advice
@@KilroyPlays I'll definitely tune in to that one
its okay bro, just say you're bad
🤣🤣 So triggered
nitro f tier? Nah you immediately lost all credibility. Sure its F tier if you have no damn aim. Seems more like a skill issue to me.
agreed, this dude is an idiot. Berthier that low makes no sense, its a long ammo weapon with over 130 damage. Also sparks need to be higher, high A tier, $130 for a 149 damage weapon makes it one of the best money to value ratios in the game.
TRIGGERED 🤣🤣
@@KilroyPlays Why would I be triggered that you're a scrub? 😂🤣
So Salty! 🤣@@Hextin
@@KilroyPlays super 👌