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- Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down the weaponry of Hunt: Showdown, including the Sharps Derringer pistol, the Spencer 1882 pump-action shotgun, and a very unique single-barrelled shotgun.
Hunt: Showdown is a supernatural take on the Wild West complete with an arsenal of period weaponry that includes interesting takes on the Colt Single Action Army revolver, the LeMat revolver, and the Winchester Model 1873 rifle.
Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down the guns of Hunt: Showdown and compares them to their real-world counterparts.
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As Blackjack A. has pointed out in a comment, the belt-fed revolver is more likely based on the American Josselyn revolver. Still, Treeby did it first :)
Ok
If you haven't seen Jonathan they made Pinfire and centrefire cartridge Lemat revolvers
English Gun lord
Very cool to see you cover the history of British firearms whereas Ian covered the history of French firearms. Hoping to make your book part of my collection!
Honestly dude, best Experts React series of any channel ever!
Firearms expert hospitalized after carrying the entirety of Gamespot on his back
Truest thing I've seen all day
Yeah, that's pretty accurate.
Ooosh right in the feels.🤣
I never noticed this was on GameSpot lol!
Tbf if he just starting posting these on his own channel who knows if the algorithm would ever pick them up, however great they are 🤷♂️
Crytek has actually and I quote: "updated the animations of the Sparks LRR family rifle to be more in line with their real-life counterparts.", because they have seen this video. Crytek really appreciates this video :) Nice work
Now if they could just update the Specter reload.
@@Bloodhurl67 late to the comment but genuine question, what's up with its reload?
Is Sparks the fictional, in game name of the Sharps?
@@visassess8607 yes
It's rare to see devs considering anyone to be an expert that the person is labelled as even if the label is true, and to Jonathan's credit he really is.
“I know I’m overanalysing this, but that’s kind of my job.” What a legend
They've actually changed the animations for the Sparks based on the feedback of this video.
Yeah was fun to see game devs admitted the animation was dumb.
He's British and yet they didn't show the martini henry with a sword on the barrel. Dang.
Wait for part 2
It's a p1879 artillery bayonet, not a sword.
Edit: corrected bayonet model
@@colbunkmust How did you say sword and make it less cool
@@HeyItsAshuriGameplay Bayonet sounds cooler tbh
Fix bayonets! vs. idk lmao, raise your swords?
@@lancerblitz
Then: Raise your swords!
Now: Fix bayonets!
considering all the characters can use actual magic, albeit in very tame ways, and they fight mutated monsters and magical monsters, the amount of realism even in more unrealistic guns is astounding.
It fits the fiction, though. It aligns with Secondary Belief, which is basically how Tolkien describes his worldbuilding process/desire. The fictional world operates on its own set of rules, no matter how ludicrous, but must follow them exactly, else the illusion is broken. So, Hunt: Showdown exists in a world with magic and monsters, but firearms technology maintains basically what it is in the real world.
This makes for a more enjoyable game, and is quite ludonarratively satisfying. Magic feels more magical, the player feels more skilled, and the monsters feel more dangerous.
@@tommyscott8511 God, what a nerd.
And that is certainly why Tolkien is still the King of modern fantasy, also the reason my old DM had the most immersive campaigns. I think that's why I have such a liking of Bloodborne, there's just more focus on the cohesion of the world you're in, along with the lack of hand holding souls games are known for, it makes for a much better experience.
they're fixing the sparks animation because of this video lol
Hunt showdown is so underrated.
@@fop3146 Calm down, you couldn't be more wrong
@@fop3146 If you're talking about quickswapping, you're wrong. Besides an uptick in dolch, which let's be honest a bunch of sweats ran already, the meta's well diversified and the playerbase, at least as of now, is growing. Long ammo dominance wasn't interesting, and if that's really what the game needed to exist, then frankly it doesn't deserve to.
@@fop3146 u can smell the quickswapper tears from here
Hes prolly talking about special ammo, explosive tracer and poison etc.. and i agree.
@@seanmartin3474 I considered that, but he said last update, and ammo hasn't dropped on live. Personally if that is it, I disagree. The ammo appears to have been introduced very conservatively. A few (like high velocity on bornheim and the officer carbine) are disconcerting, but can always be rebalanced. Other than those increased ammo scarcity helps balance them. Most of them are not good enough to lock yourself into special ammo for.
Metro series would be great, especially his take on the bastard and other homemade weapons!
Yes!
The shambler more than anything imo
I find the bicycle gun cooler
THIS!!😆😆😆
Agreed. The buckshot LMG is the best LMG I’ve ever played with
"I like that." - Literally anyone who looks at the Romero Hatchet
its true
Except for the guy looking at the guy holding it
@@drugsarebad97 “I don’t like that.” -the guy looking at the guy holding the Romero hatchet.
The devs truly are committed to getting the accuracy of the firearms down to a T. Yesterday they announced in the 1.5.2 update that they'd be changing the Sparks LRR's reload animation as according to Mr. Ferguson's critique in this video. I'd love to see him come back to do a part two, as there are so many interesting firearms in the game that are designed so well.
It's pretty sick how he has a Treeby Chaingun there. There's only 2 in existence and I saw the other one in Virginia.
Really
Very cool.
Yea that’s crazy it a absolutely beautiful firearm
It seems that Ian from Forgotten Weapons managed to make a short video with the only other one known to exist.
it's funny how the Royal Armory doesn't have a Colt 1872 but then they have a Treeby.
"This is the Treeby Chain....gun..." Ferguson doesn't get enough credit for his comedic timing. He's legit funny.
British humor at it's best
@@deathtrap5556 I hear Al Murray calling
I really like that Jon is both an undisputed expert and a video game fan who understands where tweaks have to be made. It makes it especially noticeable where there are very silly things.
Part 2 Hunt: Showdown! There are so many more weapons that I'd love for him to see!
Definetly needs a Hunt: Showdown part 2. I'd also love to see Receiver 2.
That'd be awesome
He's gotta do Receiver 2.
Receiver 2 is amazing.
Bomblance needed! ;)
@GameSpot please?
"This is Jonathan Ferguson, the chad"
How's Alyx and Shephard?
@@aryabratsahoo7474 They.....aren't....I mean, they are in stasis, they themselfs don't know how they are....
Where's Freeman , sir ?
@@Fede0779 Dr. Freeman's dead, he's locked in my basement
Hunt Showdown is my favorite video game aesthetic of the last decade. I wish more fiction explored this Noir Fantasy Western vibe. It’s totally unique in the medium of modern gaming, and a bit crazy that something so imaginative and atmospheric was created for a multiplayer shooter. One of the most underrated games ever too. No other MP game like it.
Developers just updated the Sparks animation because of this video! Thanks, Jonathan!
They also show the animation for the Mosin Avtomat's automatic action as well xD
What about the Veterli, authenticity of the Winfield, Officer Carbine, Lebel and the Bornheim. The choice of guns was kinda meh =\
Hopefully we can get a part 2
Definitely. The guns you've mentioned are very nicely portrayed, would've been nice get his opinion on how good it actually is, but some of the ones shown in the video are straight up botched or just funky and "hard to understand" for someone who doesn't know the game.
Oh and btw, it's funny that he has the "Winfield", or the Winchester 1873 on the table in the back throughout the whole video, but it wasn't even mentioned. Hopefully this means that there's indeed a second part coming. Maybe he just grabbed it because he thought that it for sure ought to be in the game and they didn't show it, lol.
There's so many to choose from it's difficult to select only a few
@@alexanderstreeter973 and yet they chose the most unhistirical ones which doesn’t give the game justice :/ Hunt actually treats their guns very good and true to their origins.
Check out this guys battlefield one video
I would love to see more of Hunt Showdown, namely how the Lebel is portrayed because of its rather unusual loading mechanism. Fingers crossed for a part 2!
In the newest Patch the developers actually implemented changes to the Sparks based on this video. Hunt has way more iconic and controversial weapons like the whole Winnie-Family, the Bornheim, the Dolch, the Lebel as you mentioned... I want a second part as well!
I second that!
I would also like to see more information on the Lebel rifle!
Yes totally bring us a part 2!! There's so many more guns to discuss!
Just checkout the TH-cam Channel Forgotten Weapons, he does technical breakdowns and histories of a ton of different firearms, he's kind of a Francophile, and the Lebel is a French gun so he goes pretty in depth with it
A part 2 for this game would be really cool, especially since on a dev stream the other day they actually showed off the Mosin avtomat bolt cycling animation in higher detail, would be really cool to see Jon react to it!
Where can I watch that stream again?
6:58 The game calls it a Fedorov Avtomat, though for some reason it’s a modification of the mosin in-game. The wiki says it’s kind of an alternate history where the Huot was developed by Russians, so the standard rifle modified for the design was the mosin instead of the Ross.
It’s crazy how your perception about shooting games changes as you learn about how guns function.
Ferguson’s analysis is fascinating.
If you are interested in the mechanics of firearms i highly recomend "Forgotten Weapons" the host there also is involved in Jonathans new book by the way.
@@Gameprojordan Well, he's working at a museum, I'd expect him to know this.
I never thought that chain revolver would existed but seems i am defeated in this argument
A *cartridge* model does not exist, so you are not totally defeated
Neither did I think the Nagant pistol's sabo
You'd be surprised how many wacky inventions people came up with at some point, sometimes but just sometimes, what you see in fiction is somehow grounded in reality more or less, and that's something cool to consider :D
After watching enough of Gun Jesus's videos I'm not surprised by anything.
Oh yea there's some weird guns out there
I think it's awesome that the latest update (1.5.2) of Hunt: Showdown had the following among its patch notes: "We have updated the animations of the Sparks LRR family of rifle to be more in line with their real-life counterparts. This change is based on some recent feedback from a weapons expert reaction video created by Gamespot. (Thanks for the tips folks, we really appreciate it!)" (And linked to this video.)
Videogames fictionnalize the weapons companies names usually to avoid lawsuits. Even if some companies are dead, we can see that Colt for instance is still in service to this day. That's why. :)
What would be the risk of being sued? I've seen games straight-up tell their name with no alterations (Receiver 2, for example) and I haven't heard of the associated companies being sued.
@@popcornegg4405 The risk is actually huge. See, to use a brand name, you actually need to have a commercial agreement with it. With lots, and I mean *lots* of paperwork, bipartite terms of condition and so on. Especially because, well, many companies don't want to be associated with games that may or may not depict something they're not really ok with (think of Spec Ops- The Line's main story with *realistic* use of White Phosphorus and thus display of gruesome, first degree civilian mass manslaughter. Not something Colt or Beretta would be ok with being associated with). Moreover, some games would actually use the brand name as an add or a partnership. So there's money to be made for the brand and the video game studio. And trust me, when a company can't make money off something they usually have full control on, they cannot be happy.
Since the firearms manufacturers are very powerful entities in the business world, especially in the USA where most shooter games are made and thus where lawsuits would defenitely be issued, the risk for the video game editors are humongous. We're talking millions of dollar-grade kind of lawsuits, for unlawful use of brand name and brand identity, for commercial use.
That doesnt mean a game cannot have brand names for their firearms. Call of Duty had famously made a deal with Remington Arms to display the Remington name and logo on their R5. I don't especially know Receiver 2 but I do note that it is a simulator based especially on (and I quote) " based on manufacturer schematics and gunsmithing resources", since I see the term "manufacturer" in their description, I can only guess they have a deal with those said manufacturers to exploit the brand names :)
@@popcornegg4405 because a small video game company going up to somebody huge like Heckler & Koch is pretty difficult
Or even with RDR2 and how the Pinkerton agency tried to sue the game makers for using their name in the game
It’s refreshing to hear someone refer to the derringer as “probably too powerful” lol
thats where realism=fun, the derringer used to be super shit like in real life, now you can actually make it work.. somewhat
@@kekkadakeda9468 as a hunt player it's only good in pve setting off oil lanterns ect. In pvp players can shrug off headshots at range
@@gamiiee Hunt player myself dud:D you can use it in pvp to meme on dudes, I ve wiped trios with it by getting 2 insta headshots, back when it was worse dmg and headshot range wise even memeing it was super frustrateing cause you'd get a headshot on some guy not even halfway through the compound away and he'd still be standing
@@gamiiee its a nice backup for pvp imo, for example if you hit someone with romero but he is not dead you pull out the derringer and finish him off
@@gamiiee Sparks body shot: am I a joke to you?
More Hunt Showdown please, it has so much more weapons.
THIS, he barely got into it, I wanna see him pull out an explosive whaling harpoon and compare :D
They should just give him a console or a PC and give him the game to just browse the in game lore and 3D modeling of the weapons etc
They have to do a part two, can't believe he didn't talk about the Bornheim or the lebel.
silenced nagant is one of the only revolvers that can actually be silenced based on how its designed. They're insanely quiet to the point where all you hear is the mechanical clicking of parts. Look them up on here, its pretty cool.
*mandatory Jonathan single-handedly saving the Gamespot channel comment*
Would definitely like to see a part 2 of this episode. It feels as though the clip curator has veered away from the more impressive and authentic representations of weapons in favour of the more fantasy based versions.
I definitely felt like that initial poor impression seemed to jade Jonathan's analysis of the latter firearms.
Agreed
this was the part 2 :P
They did one like 2 years ago....
@@MoonLiteNite seems this isn't true. think you're confusing something.
@PrdBlack this is what i thought too. And i guess if he'd played the game himself, he'd be pretty impressed by how accurate the authentic weapons are realized.
yeah also told him like zombies have like what 40hp? derringer is like 10-15 damage to hunters. and is mostly meant to fire barrels. or to finish people off. of fire other traps.
also nitro works on zombies. no shit. i fire a zombie and he goes flying over the whole map. its like 200 damage. and its meant for pvp. hence u only get like 6 shots.
@@miciso666 Derringer's real purpose is to harvest salt.
Hunt showdown PT 2 WHEN? We need the other guns to be discussed as well! Please!
He'd be more surprised how many of the revolvers don't use the little ejector in front of it.
IKR, thermal expansion is a thing
Did he just call the deringer a beast😂what a legend
The hunt showdown needed this publicity.
Hunt is a bop of a game, it 100% deserves more attention
@@blacktiger974 well everyone had to start somewhere, keep playing. It's a big learning curve, but once u understand more about the game and start wiping servers, you're gonna love it.
@@blacktiger974 honestly yeah it's got a huge learning curve. I don't want to comment too hard as I obviously don't know what happened, but everyone kind of agrees you are still learning for the first 150 hours of the game. It plays unlike any other shooter. I've got friends from various other franchises who play it like those games and they have to unlearn a lot of habits in order to learn Hunt
@@thesuperginge1348 yeah I think thats the main point why it had problems to become popular.
I personally play it since the beta and back then I luckily didnt have such big problems getting into the game because everyone was kinda new.
@@lucaa8494 matchmaking update coming isn’t it
The Dev-team of Hunt changed the animation for the Sparks/Sharps rifle because of this video :)
They actually changed the animation on the Sharps rifle in the game due to this videos criticisms. Thanks Jonathan!
his criticism is wrong. Source? Have handled a sharps in person. Leave the firearms critiques to the americans.
@@immex5694 Really? So the Sharps uncocks itself when you open the breach?
@@immex5694
Why is it only the Americans who are allowed to critique firearms in this instance?
@@irma9495 Cause we are the only ones allowed to even own them LOLOLOL
@@immex5694 mfw Most of the world is allowed to own firearms, albeit with strenuous background checks and such. Especially with a Sharps Rifle, it should be more lenient.
Jonathan should react to the Metro series' guns. I would love his input on if those guns would actually work in real life or make no sense. Hell, he should react to more games with made up guns and talk about whether they actually make sense or would never work in real life!
But I reeeeally want his opinion on the guns in the Metro series, I always thought Metro made some of the coolest looking post apocalyptic guns.
I agree! I really want to see how he likes the pressurized BB gun in that game. It's my favorite weapon outside of the soviet staples.
Yea I'd like to hear him talk about the belt-fed shotgun, the shambler, the bastard and also the fictional "AK-12" with the P90 mag.
@@THE_Glass_Grizzly Dude ever since then I've had a fascination for air guns. They'd be the perfect post apocalyptic weapon if you think about it. Run out of gunpowder? Just use air lmao
wow, I like the melee appendices on the weapons... very inventive. Hunt: Showdown seems to be so underrated!
It's underrated for reason. High skill barrier to entry.
@@cryw1092 yeah but this game looks much more interesting than csgo
@@alexlokanin3312 Its nothing like CSGO. I'd compare it to a Battle Royale game, but with a huge pve slant and purposfully infuriating mechanics, like long reloads and massive damage to health
@@SSD_Penumbra That's what I'm talking about... cs:go is basic and this is an interesting premise
Hunt: Showdown is one of, if not the best games that I cannot, in good conscience blindly refer someone to
Definitely need to have a part 2, while this one was good, it seems to focus to much on the more wilder versions. I think Jonathan would appreciate the more authentic weapons more.
You got your wish.
Definitely need part 2. This game has so much more guns to cover!
Jonathan's smile is always so inviting
You're 15 minutes into *curate and chill* when he gives you this look 0:00
@@TheSundayShooter I worked with JF at the Royal Armouries, he loves this shit
Verdun and Tannenberg would be great to see, wide range of guns from the different fronts of World War 1
great suggestion
Beyond the wire
I like that he doesn't get overly critical of the game designers decisions regarding "fudging" things, and understands why the decisions were made while still respecting them
9:52 Lul, Crytec Devs saw this and reworked the reload.
He should do Rising Storm 2: Vietnam
True
yea theres some really interesting guns in rising storm
Best game in history
@@rambobannana i love it lol
@@rambobannana indeed it's amazing
YESSSS!! This game NEEDS this kind of recognition!
It'd be cool to see his thoughts on the sound design in Hunt too, not just the specific sound imprints of each weapon, but the distance at which they can be heard. There's a whole studio in the weapon menus to test audible distance on weapons, something I haven't seen in any other game.
I could watch this guy reacting to guns 24/7.
Amazing series, keep them coming!
This game are criminally underrated
I honestly always pass it up, mostly as I thought it was strictly 1 v 4 PVP despite loving the art direction and weapons. I probably should give it a try.
@@BT-ex7ko Where the hell did you get that idea? LOL. Regardless, great game. Do it up.
@@BT-ex7ko it's more like 3v3v3 or 2v2v2v2v2v2
Have him react to Metro Exodus
"Make him"
Strap him down if you have to; I must have his input on Metro Exodus, it is of the utmost importance.
I second this!
@@Mr.deacle its not waterboarding if its diselfuel
Or any of the Metro games really
Points a gun at his head: do a video now
Always amazing content when the Royal Armouries get involved.
We need a part 2 there's so many more guns in the game.
Metro series next! He should really talk about those homemade modifications and weapons
Guns in Metro? Post-apocalypse Metro 2033/LL/Exodus? Regular weapons - AK, single-barrel shotgun, .44 cal pistol, irregular - "Bastard", 12 gauge belt-fed machine gun and other weapons. Metro-2 series? Really Soviet weapons of 1940s.
I'm so happy this got me watching the channel! Hopefully we'll get a part 2 someday.
The dev team just linked this video in their most recent update notes. They said they were going to change the animation on the Sparks LRR based on Ferguson's feedback.
That "I like that" was the most genuine iv seen in a long time.
0:44 I just love his enthusiasm for guns, he has a smile on his face just watching guns
I was so surprised to hear a british accent when I clicked on the first episode I watched, and I’m very pleased that there are still some British folk that like guns
I've been addicted to Hunt lately, so I'd love to see Jonathan revisit Hunt and take a look at some of the remaining hunt weaponry
This dude is a gem, he needs his own channel.
Dangit, all I wanted to see was the officer carbine. More hunt showdown!
"Fastest click in the bayou."
Super interesting! Really happy he took some time to look at these weapons from this awesome game.
I like that the devs of hunt showdown, which I’ve played since it’s inception, have put so much effort into the guns itself. I hope they watch this video and maybe fix a few of the issues presented.
They have
Fuck yeah I mostly wanted this just to hear him talk about the belt revolver
You guys should have him react to the weapon handling mechanics of Receiver 2
This vid needs a part 2 like the Tarkov vid. Would love to see him react to the Mauser, Vetterli, lebel and other hunt weapons that were not shown in this video
I really hope we get a part 2 for this covering guns like the various winnie rifles, lebel, bornheim, and officer carbine
Id love to see him cover the Metro series weapons. lot of weird janky guns in that game
Alot of people asked for hunt showdown so im glad to see they listened.
This video helped the Devs correct the Sparks LRR - thank you!
Been binge watching these videos, good stuff.
Okay, this is actually a banger. Hunt Showdown has some great and unique guns!
Have him react to Metro Exodus next!
The original Metro has a lot of crazy home made guns too, the whole series would be a gold mine for this type of content.
I like how they demonstrate the revolver nature of the guns in the UI, having the "active" chamber show as empty until you recock the hammer, complete with the ammo pips sliding into place.
Another excellent video and time spent with Jonathan is always time well spent. I would like to see him spend some time reacting to the guns from the multiplayer FPS games Tannenberg and Verdun.
aww there's so many more weapons in Hunt showdown to see!
Like the Karabiner, Lebel, Springfield, the Uppercut! even the lever action winnie!
Loved this episode!
Thank you for the content
I love that Gamespot and Jonathan are keen to keep giving us what we ask for each week!
What about a twist episode where Jonathan talks about what he would LIKE to see in a new game?
This fellow always does a fantastic job and I really enjoying hearing his take on the guns from these games.
Thank you for putting a spotlight on this amazing game
Have him react to Squad!
Hopefully, we can get a part 2 The guns showed were great. I'd love to see Him go into detail into a few more of them and with the updates coming out There'll be even more to choose from
Jonathan Ferguson is like the Steve Irwin of guns. Everyone loves him and he's very passionate about his job.
I imagine the devs made up the chain-loaded revolvers on their own, and then they go back to watch this video and when they find out it's a real gun they spit out their coffee
I got a feelimg they kinda did as a kid i used ot like to draw concept guns and i didnt a similar chain revolver. Its a very primordial gun designer idea
not true. chain revolver do exist in the real world.
@@dizzyhint8800 Well... yeah, that.. that was the joke. The guy said he imagined that the devs might not have known it actually existed, and learned about it with this vid.
This was a fascinating look into the weapons!
4:44 But on this note, the game is supposedly set in 1895, and the "American Hunters Association" accepts people from around the world, so that's the reason why a Nagant M1895 could be in it. But I suspect some other weapons are anachronistic or otherwise suspect as well. The feel of the guns fit the theme though, and play good, and that's the important part.
I would like to see another reaction after the Custom Ammo update has been implemented!
YESSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!! THANK U PAPA GUN
Part 2 please, I bought the game last month and am absolutely hooked, and there are so many interesting guns that I'd love to see the real-world counterparts to.
I know it’s a long shot, but I would love to see a part 2 where you show how the hunt team took Jonathan’s criticisms to heart and fixed the reload animation of the chain pistol and Sparks, as well as covering some of the other weapons that are in the game that have been added since this or just some that weren’t featured, maybe even some of the tools
Best episode ever. Qudos to Jonathan for his rich info on every gun he gave.
I would love to see a reaction to the "Verdun" and "Tannenberg" games and their more realistic approach to ww1 combat
Wow, I’ve never heard him so enthusiastic about a gun as he was for the shotgun at 3:25
I think this deserves a second part! He should take a look at many other weapons, like the Winfield, Martini Henry and Vetterli and especially at the ones with Bajonett. And he of course should talk about all the gun sounds! That is something I expected from this video but wasn't looked at.
So part deux please?!
I feel having him examine the guns in the games examination / test fire would have been a good addition .
For sure this, a real missed opportunity
@Mati Mikk what Napalm means is the game itself have a test fire range complete with gun animations for each weapon
You can take any firearm in the game and go to the virtual fire range, mostly used to hear the audible que over distances
Would love to see him on the Metro series!
Hunt Showdown just gave you guys a shoutout in a recent update, saying they'd taken on board some of the comments and made changes! How amazing is that!
Love the Lemat, was also modified into Jayne Cobbs gun in firefly. love to see it used more in games and films
I would love to see Rising storm 2's guns talked about here
That or RO2 would be great :D