2022 Honda Odyssey review // Sienna, Pacifica, Carnival or this?
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This is a Motormouth couple car review of the 2022 Honda Odyssey minivan. The Honda Odyssey is one of the best driving mini-vans with an excellent turning radius, comfortable drive and it’s quite nimble for such a large vehicle. Whether you need the extra space for carpooling, a long road trip or home improvement items, the Odyssey doesn’t disappoint. This mini-van has a 3.5L V6 engine with a 10-speed automatic transmission, 280 horsepower and 262 lb-ft of torque, FWD only. The Odyssey is an 8-passenger mini-van and comes standard with a black gloss grille, chrome door handles (black US), power sliding doors, a moonroof, LED headlights, fog lights and taillights, available two-tone 19” aluminum alloy wheels and a hands-free power tailgate. In the US, the power sliding doors are standard on the EX trim and the moonroof & power tailgate on the EX-L model. Keep in mind; the US has a much lower starting price for the Odyssey with more trims available compared to Canada so you will get less features on the lower trims. Some standard active safety features include, brake assist, auto high beam, a collision mitigation braking system, forward collision warning, lane departure warning, traffic sign recognition, hill start assist ad rear seat reminder. The Odyssey comes with plenty of driver assist technology features including, adaptive cruise control, Honda Lane Watch and lane keep assist. Blind Spot Monitoring and rear-cross alert are standard on the top Touring trim in Canada and one up from the base model in the US on the EX trim.JD Power gives the 2022 Honda Odyssey an overall score of 80/100. How
do the competitors fair? The Toyota Sienna gets a score of 79/100, the Chrysler Pacifica 68/100 and the Kia Carnival has not yet been rated. Lets take a look at the dimensions of these mini-vans and how they compare. The Odyssey offers the most length, the Carnival and Pacifica have the most front legroom, Odyssey wins for second row legroom at 40.9" with the Carnival very close at 40.5". The Sienna has the most third row legroom 38.7" with the Odyssey not far behind 38.1". The Carnival offers the most space behind the 3rd row at 40.2 cubic feet with the Odyssey in second with 38.6 cubic feet. The most overall cargo capacity goes to the Odyssey. For fuel economy, the Honda is not best in class; it gets 12.2L/100 km, 19 MPG city and 8.5L/100 km, 28 MPG highway.
The Honda Odyssey starts at $48,305 CAD, EX-L Res $48,605 CAD and the Touring $54,805 CAD.
In the US, it starts at $33,040 USD, EX $36,440 USD, EX-L $39,710 USD, Touring $43,750 USD and Elite $48,770 USD.
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I test drove the Kia...the engine is a POS..
Build quality has gone down hill for Hondas.
I have two Honda Odysseys and a Honda Fit. Once, you driven a van and benefited from all of it's driving versatility, practicality and room it's hard to going back to a car. I have had every kind of vehicle that you can imagine in my lifetime. I am retired and will continue to have a van for the rest of my life!
i have just started my family and now with 3 kids, it's kinda hard to continue with SUVs or large Pickup trucks, so I guess I'm going with this Honda, your words inspires me!
Mini vans are upgrades from SUVs once one starts to like the look and especially the practicality and space.
Hi guys ,please never represented Honda odyssey ,please living in the Canada ,you knew this car in the winter, absolutely useless
We bought a new 22 Sienna and it was a complete lemon. Only 4000 kms and we are trading it in.
Toyota’s are losing their build quality. No more hybrids for us!!
Odyssey is the way to go, it’s proven reliability. It drives great with that 10 speed and that refined V6. The suspension and steering are better than any other van or crossover we test drove. We have an ‘18 Elite and and not a squeak or rattle in the years we’ve had it.
Not a fan of the looks of this vehicle. The second row seats are too close to the floor. No height adjustment on the passenger seat is a no go. All minivans should be available with AWD. Toyota and Kia Sears are the most comfortable all the way around. Minivans are the way to go if you’re looking for a people hauler.
List SUVs are not people haulers. They’re just tall cars. I’d also lie to see some performance trim vans. If we can have performance Pickup trucks and SUVs we can have performance vans.
We own a Pacifica and wouldn’t choose any other. We use the van specifically to carry our dogs. Stow n go is great, relatively flat floor makes carrying crate easy. Sienna is a big no with the inability to remove the middle seats. The Honda is ok, but removing the big seats and the floor is just not flat enough. Carnival would work but you can’t get the top trim with removable seats.
Chrysler just has that understanding with the idea of it being a people mover and truck/SUV cargo hauler .. the "do all vehicle". Like everyone is saying ... the inexpensive Dodge van is no longer; sure they needed that longer warranty (or TSB allowed for good discounting on repairs) back then and were not designed to be cool (but gosh lots of kids ponder them as a first vehicle .. especially when cargo ones were around and a low price). At least they have the Grand Caravan variant in Canada; helps a tad on pricing for the original target market .. families with no money that needed high utility.
Agreed. I currenlty own a Honda and my next purchase will likely be the pacifica because it's simply better. Honda relies too much on their brand name to sell (and it works) but I rented a Pacifica for a week and was sold! The Odyssey would be a downgrade imo
I have driven an Odyssey for 13 years and have lived in Edmonton and Halifax. We have seen some brutal winters. Front wheel drive has always been enough with winter tires.
The Ford Flex was generally regarded as being a hideous car. The Carnival looks just like a bloated Ford Flex and suddenly, the Carnival a “beautiful” van. Go figure…
The funny thing is the people will say " that's a bloated SUV"
You guys forgot the Pacifica PHEV. Do you not get that in Canada?
They've come a long way since my 2001 Dodge Caravan (reg length and not the "Grand") We bought that for $19,999. I can't imagine trying to afford one of these as a young family today. I agree that nothing beats a minivan for families especially with pets too. Thanks for the review!
19,999 in 2001 is about $37,000 adjusted for inflation which is inline with what a base minivan is today. A Carnival can be had for even less.
The Sienna is the worst minivan. The unremovability of the 2nd row defeats the purpose of a minivan. If you like Toyota reliability, you may as well get a highlander, just as practical than the new Sienna despite less exterior footprint. Kia learned from their previous Sedona that they're better off making the 2nd row removable for the new Carnival.
You guys do great reviews. I don't understand how more people aren't subscribers. Should be 500,000 easily. Keep up the good work. Thank you for what you do.
Wow, thank you!
We really appreciate that, thank you very much!
I agree, this channel is not appreciated for all it’s worth.
@@Motormouth... It's the truth....you two are the best on youtube for vehicle reviews.
Agree. It's one of the best car review channels.
The biggest problem with minivans was fuel consumption. And only Toyota remedied it. 1th Toyota 2nd Honda if you want V6 and the rest is garbage...
Golfing with a guy I didn’t know, he is a Chrysler service manager, asked him about Pacifica, he said let me put it this way, my mom bought one without asking me, I said good , I will be seeing a lot more of you. He was not a fan
Sienna. Bc the odyssey still has transmission issues since 2012 and they have a timing belt instead of chain which requires replacement around 60-100k miles and costs $1500.
Plus the sienna is AWD and gets 36 mpg.
I completely agree. We have the new Sienna and love the mileage. I was concerned about going from our V6 Sienna to a hybrid with CVT, but it has been great. It has plenty of power in town and on the highway. Sure, there is a little more noise with the four cylinder, but it is totally worth it.
@@Snoopymk37 we pick ours up in two weeks hopefully. Build date is today !
Used Siennas are still selling above retail and you can’t get a new one from the dealers! 😂
Carnival has a problem. With backseat folded to the floor and breaking to slow down....the seats want to move forward...a bit annoying
If only pacifica has a toyota reliability - ill pick them anytime of the day . Honda is decent , however - this current generation has electronic gremlins ( specially the top trim models ) . With regards to current fuel prices plus proven reliability - ill pick sienna . Has its own issues like flimsy cheap plastics - its not well thought out design unlike odyssey and pacifica . But thing will outlast odyssey and specially pacifica . And yeah has a great mpg as well due to hybrid system.
No matter what car you guys review, really enjoy watching!
Thank you so much!
I have been watching your channel for a while. I am a fan of you.
I have 2 Odyssey and 3 sienna. Have to say the old v6 sienna is so much better than Odyssey. And now, the Korean is making decent cars. All the interior and pricing are big selling points to me. I will try Kia next time.
Thank you very much, happy to hear you are enjoying our content, much appreciated. Yes, check out the Carnival, it's an impressive minivan.
Just go to the wiki page for Honda Odyssey and search for Designer. You know right away the year they handed the design to a non-Japanese. Catalin Matei reinvented ugly in 2010 and Randall Smock put lipstick on the pig 2017. Honda, please, close all your North American design studios and pull design back to Japan. We buy your cars because they look Japanese.
Amen
I always enjoys your review videos, they are informative, appropriately detailed and entertaining as well. I would really appreciate if you can cover Carnival some time in coming months. Also would love to see your top 5 list of vans. Thanks in advance!
Here it is th-cam.com/video/g6zIuKx947M/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much for the kind words we really appreciate it. Glad you are enjoying our content. We actually reviewed the Carnival when it first came out. If you are ever looking for reviews on our channel, just google TH-cam Motormouth Carnival and it will pop up.
The longer wheel base makes for a smoother ride. The height of the cabin is great for a take-out windows or a bank ATM's. If your not really a camper you can haul your bike in the back and if you want to sleep in the back it's warmer and quieter than tenting. Any type of construction, you can haul stuff to the dump, ladders, paint, 7 passengers or 1000 kg. The sliding side doors are essential for a quick pickup of the crew. Just remember at night to put the liftgate down before driving into the garage.
My Wife and I have had a mini van (Honda and Toyota) since the kids were small. The "kids" have graduated college and she still likes her van. While not sporty they are SO practical !!
Very practical and comfortable!
my kids are just starting to crawl, i guess I'm long way behind you! i always love hearing opinions from older people!
In Canada, Carnival is 10k cheaper than Sienna. When would you be able to save 10k worth of gas?
I have a 2016 Honda Odyssey touring we bought it second hand like brand new and only 50,000klo I like the Carnival because it looks like a suv but I wouldn't buy it because Kia is the lower line and not a great name.. Toyota van I wouldn't get because its not peppy as Honda and the Pacifica is dodge need I say more lol. Honda would blow any of them out of the water.
I like Hondas. They make an amazing compact car. I absolutely loved owning a minivan (kids, garage sales, Home Depot, cottaging…) and renting for long trips! But I’ve never been a fan of the Honda Odyssey. I’m not sure why. I believe, Andrea is spot on… I think the KIA’s pricing and interior makes it a clear winner. That is if you want a minivan. Thanks for the video.
It's really hard to beat the Kia Carnival for its price point and features. Thanks for watching!
The thing that really bugs me about the Honda and Toyota vans is that after many years of development, they still can't make the seats fold down into the floor like the Chrysler and Dodge vans. This is such a convenient feature, and is one of the reasons the Caravan is the #1 selling van even though the Honda and Toyota ones are technically the "better overall" vans.
I think I'd take the Chrysler over this with stow and go seating and the awd
I went shopping for minivan yesterday. Honda was cheapest, then Toyota/Pacifica tied and then get this...Kia Carnical was the MOST expensive. Kia dealerships are marking up the price 25% due to demand! "market adjustment" they called it. Crazy.
I’m not even shopping for a car anymore but still love watching these videos to keep up to date with what’s new. Best vehicle reviews on TH-cam!
Wow, that is just so nice to hear, thank you very much!
Glad you like them!
1- SIENNA
2-ODDYSEY
3-PACIFICA
FUEL ECONOMY SONS
I got the 2022 Sienna LE and I resent not spending the extra on the XLE - only for the power liftgate and the kick to open.
Honda have often done stylish vehicles. This one looks well profiled on the chassis, level to the wheels with a high spec, sporty too!
It's a great van, very comfortable and when you kick it, it really goes!
@@andreaspencer9813 It does look like it shifts by the shape and design Andrea too. I know you like a bit of speed in your vehicles.
This design is the most timeless than all other minivans.
100% kia Carnival more bang for the buck and better warranty👍
Amazing bang for your buck!
It looks better, but then when you actually interact with the car it feels cheap. I looked at one yesterday and was very disappointed.
Thank you for your reviews, I enjoy you guys doing the reviews together. I get to show my wife Andrea's pov to her. When is the new one coming out?
Thank you, really glad you like our reviews! Not sure when there will be a full redesign of the Odyssey, nothing has been confirmed by Honda.
Very bad design.
AWD Sienna is the obvious choice for Canadian roads.
Just priced out a Pacifica Limited S appearance in Canada. with no other options added. Employee price with tax, $69,000!
Chips, chocolate and coffee.
The three C’s of happiness.
Technically, espresso. With grappa.
All delicious and make me happy!
@@andreaspencer9813 Oops. Don’t forget Cupcakes, Andrea!!
And Cayenne.
@@MarioDallaRiva 😄 delicious 🧁🧁🧁
Andreas top 3 make sense 😄
Nice review. I got a 2013 Chrysler Town and Country 7yrs ago. I got 72k totally trouble free miles. Had to change EVAP canister but thats it thus far at 98k. Been looking at a huge variety of vehicles. It IS hard to accept the mediocre space and use of space of a suv once you've owned a minivan with stow and go.
With the prices of new vans, it might be worth inverting in the old girl to keep it going!
I’m a Honda fan and have had 5 now. I echo the comments that quality has degraded over the years. Recently I had a 2018 CR-V and now a couple current gen Odyssey’s. As much as I would like to, it’s not an easy recommendation for the Odyssey in its current form. The first, new from the factory, had a significant number of defects ranging from cubbies that wouldn’t close, misaligned body panels and doors, and more major finish issues (cracked seals on both passenger and driver doors, paint chips, paint bubbles, metal showing through the paint and clear coated). The 2022 was better but some of the fit and finish issues continue to exist in addition to proximity keys not always working, high rate of distortion in passenger side mirrors and now a year in, the sunroof seems to be having trouble closing and one of the power window regulators have been replaced. Fit and finish appears to be better on the 2020’s. As a Honda fan, I’m disappointed in my experience with the product(s) as of late. On the other hand, the power train and handling is really good for a van (it’s surprisingly quick!), the seats are comfortable, and the utility factor is great (I’ve had those middle seats out more times than I can count). Perhaps the Odyssey is a good choice for specific reasons but maybe the other options are better all rounders.
Same colour as the Porsche!
YES!
My minivan choices in order of preference: (1) Carny.
I always love Honda. I am currently own 2 previous generation Civic and they are brilliant cars. Even with HondaLink's issues with the Odyssey, it remains the one to beat in this ever diminishing segment. But Carnival has it beaten when it comes to exterior styling, interior ambience and infotainment's user friendliness. Sienna has a very efficient, if sluggish hybrid powertrain. I have driven JDM Odyssey with Honda's hybrid powertrain, its peppy given its narrower dimensions. If Honda wants the next USDM Odyssey to have a hybrid to compete with Sienna and Pacifica, it better be a V6 hybrid that focus on performance. Just like the Accord hybrid V6 from more a decade ago.
As usual, thanks for another great review. I got caught by a surprise when a review uploads on Monday.
I have lived in heavy snow country for many years with an Odyssey. Snow tires make a BIG difference. Although I would love to see an AWD come out, I like so much about the Odyssey, that I am now buying our third one (and will put on snow tires for the winter).
The Honda Odyssey is one of the best minivans in the market.
There are only like 4 minivans on the market, so being just "one of the best" doesn't really mean that much...
Trust me, you will not have much fun with the Honda. The "shifter" buttons are a ridiculous mess. You push for all other functions but you PULL on a button for reverse. And the parking "brake" is also confusing to use. What a disaster. And I'm sick of seeing those all digital screens instead of actual gauges. Just boooring. Truly takes the fun out of driving. PS: the paddle shifters are almost cosmetic. It resets itself back to 1st gear when you stop, LOL...
Honda Odyssey is hands down the best option. Chrysler reliability and cheap quality over the long term delete it from any consideration. Sienna engine is too weak but I actually think it would be higher reliability than the Odyssey. I don’t know what to say about the Carnival but shouldn’t it be called a Vanival?
Honda odyssey is a non-Starter. I lost all trust in Honda when my 2002 Transmission failed at 150k miles. I expected 300k out of this $30k car. Honda essentially cost me $15,000 dollars as I now have to replace the car. No thanks Honda, won’t ever buy another. Toyota here I come again.
The middle seat that you have to take our or port around (put them in another corner of the cargo area) - well what do you do when you get to where ever you are dropping off the cargo - I can't see that ever working. I remember the Chrysler days when the seats had to come out and the people with the seats in their garage looking like "that is what we built this garage for" .. zero sense. Also - I'm again sorry - but people you are playing with back problems doing those seats - I would not risk it if you are like 50 and over on my own.
No matter how much I prefer the look of Carnival, the build quality is just not there. The whole car feels poorly made the moment you start driving it. I guess all the money go to the design. On the other hand, despite looking very unattractive the odyssey feels surprisingly solid, comfortable and good to drive. However the look is a deal breaker😂. If only they design the look better to keep up with other brands’ minivans.
Great review and I agree with Zac picks
Thanks for watching!
Even reviewing a minivan, you are worth watching, guys. Thanks!
Thanks a lot, we appreciate the kind words.
This was our year to choose a new vehicle. Our Silverado lease was up in September. We wanted to downsize and all things were on the table. Sienna was going to be our choice due to needing AWD in Northern Michigan and any vehicle was going to get winter rated tires. Odyssey would have been #2 cause it's an awesome interior and along with Toyota dependability. With that said the other vans were not even in consideration! Had 2 Chryslers years ago and no thanks!! Well We ended up with a CRV! Genthe Honda sold at MSRP. Wanted the Rav4 but Suburban Toyota and Page Toyota were 2k over MSRP, CYA TOYOTA!!
You guys are hitting all the cars I am considering lately. Would love a odyssey vs pilot comparison if you guys have time (or carnival v telluride or sienna v highlander). Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much, really glad you are enjoying the content. All great comparisons you suggested.
The Minivan always wins
We had a 2005 Honda Odyssey EX-L with 172K miles and zero issues before an accident. My wife doesn't like minivans, so now we have a 2018 Traverse, which is a minivan with large swinging doors for the kiddos 🤷♂️
Speak to RELIABILITY. Chrysler would not be on my list at all. I really enjoy your videos and perspective.
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed the review!
Fuel economy when spending +20k CAD should not even be considered? You are paying your economy dearly.
Sienna with AWD, amazing mpg, and Toyota reliability is the obvious choice.
We have a ‘22 Odyssey Elite, going on a year old and 10,000mi, without issue. We traded in our ‘11 Sienna XLE for it. The Odyssey drives and rides like a luxury car compared to our old Sienna, although the Sienna had more interior volume. We can still fit our family of five and 70lb dog; recently traveled 1K mi to FL and back home, averaged 29mpg on the highway. Couldn’t be more satisfied with how it performed. While shopping for our Odyssey my wife refused to cross-shop the Pacifica, to my dismay. One of the key decision points for us though was the fact that you get seating for eight in the top trim model, which no other van on the market has. We often take family and friends along, so it really is nice to have seating for eight. We come from a family of Honda-lovers. Not that the other options are bad, we just prefer Hondas. I believe the true left-brain choice is the Sienna with AWD, if you don’t plan to tow anything.
Similar experience for my family!
Motormouth has a lot of great content with very detailed information, but is it just me or did any one else notice that Andrea blew pass the line on the stop sign 2:50 into the video? 🙈
A minivan for me is good for long trips and not really for city drive, so I'll pick the odessey because of the V6 and 10 speed auto transmission!! Great review as usual thanks :) if I wanna save on gas I would go with a Highlander hybrid not a minivan.
Thanks for watching!
Love these types of videos
Thank you so much! We appreciate that, glad you are enjoying them.
As someone who just bought a minivan 2 years ago( a year old 2019 Sienna literally the week before Covid shut everything down) yeah we bought one not cause we wanted want, but because we needed one with our 3 growing kids. Wife wanted a 3 row SUV but I told here it made no sense to pay more for less interior space and worse gas mileage, just to avoid the minivan stigma. I told her, it's like buying a fridge or other major appliance; you buy it cause you need it, not because you want it! I'm with Zack on this one; get a base model or better yet, get one just off lease like I did and save $10,000 vs new and you'll still get 98% of it's life! Let someone else eat the depreciation on s grudge purchase like a minivan, which is gonna get heavy use and beaten up!
Why only front wheel drive?( i wanna have choice
One thing I was and do look forward in your reviews is the Hybrid take on these cars. Now, I've been considering a mini-van as my 2nd vehicle and really want to add a Hybrid option at home. I want to use it for the city driving as well as road trips. The only true PHEV option is Pacifica but it comes at a hefty price tag for the mid-trim. What do you guys think? I wish Carnival had a Hybrid.
We have the Chrysler and you can get 7500 off, which really makes it cheaper. Also, the carnival is going to get a hybrid
I love the room and comfort in a minivan…….but idk if I would ever buy one. I think the Toyota Sienna is better looking…….and the Kia.
I'm considering putting up a deposit on a 2023 Odyssey. I've watch this video several times and really enjoyed it. Are you aware of any changes in the 2023 production of the Odyssey compared to the 2022? Thanks a lot
We haven't heard anything from Honda about the 2023 model unfortunately. Glad our review was helpful - Andrea
Odyssey 2023 will be a carry-over from 2022, no changes at all. I was debating hard between Odyssey and Sienna because I've owned Honda/Acura in the past 18 years. Sienna has too many features that Odyssey doesn't offer - Hybrid, AWD, heated captain chairs with ottoman, digital rea mirror, foot-kick slide door opener, 4-zone climate control, bird-view 360 camera. The only advantages of Odyssey 2023 are: rear entertainment system can play DVD, side-to-side captain chair sliding, and Honda has a much shorter wait-time than Toyota. Crossing fingers that my Sienna will arrive in 10 months :)
We own a 2007 Honda Odyssey, and we love it... We use it as a plant wagon for our nursery, so center and rear seats are pulled, and a bit worn from plants moving and out.
So we have been wanting to buy a new one just for travel, and for running around. simply because they are so comfortable to drive. Thanks for the video.
I'm a practical family guy and mini vans make a lot of sense.
Good for keeping everything in your vehicle for safety. A cycling adventure, road trip , fishing and you could use it as a private taxi getting people or families to and from the airport to regain some of the cost. Win, win, win.
I was laughing at how obviously you guys dislike driving a minivan 🤣... Our favorite! A push button transmission 🤣🤣🤣
We don't mind them, they are very practical.
The price went up fir 2023 they are becoming luxury car 😢
Will Toyota release a plug-in hybrid version of Sienna next year?
Nothing has been confirmed by Toyota.
You guys are so entertaining you make me watch videos for vehicles I have 0 interest in😅
Awesome, thank you!
Amazing videos, love them all and thank you very much… I own 2006 Odyssey and love it’s seats and Honda sharp line compare to other models back then… in market to buy new van and confused between Pacifica hybrid , Carnival and Odyssey… love plug-in option with entertainment features of pacific hybrid , love styling of Carnival but love seat comfort of Honda… need help please
Thank you very much, really glad you are enjoying our videos.
It seems the gear shifter becomes more of a big push buttons D for a drive.
Great review!
Glad you liked the review, thanks for watching!
@@andreaspencer9813it’s very informative keep up the greatness.
@@michaelsylvester7272 Awesome, thanks!
@@andreaspencer9813 most welcome!
The new Sienna is a much better looking minivan. Has it been reviewed yet?
Yes, there is one on the channel when it first launched. Check it out! Just google Motormouth Toyota and it should come up for you.
I'm surprised that many reviews I've seen of the Sienna do not mention that the middle row seats are not removable, which really reduces total cargo space when you need it. When we moved my son to college the Sienna would not of come close to fitting all his stuff, our Odyssey had no issues holding everything. If you ever need to remove the middle seats the Sienna is a no go.
You can remove them, just requires tools to do that. So, they are not a clip on, clip off middle seats
Great review! Hopefully you guys will review the MDX Type S
Next week.
@@Motormouth... Awsome!!!!!
Yes, next week, can't wait to drive it!
Agreed, Minivan's prices are out of control. Would definitely go with the Carnival, not only for the price but also the forward styling. Oddesy exterior hasn't changed much in a decade, not to mention their older transmission failures.
I have an old honda...trany is just fine.
You both continue to make me laugh. I don’t even care about mini vans but yet here I am
Awesome, thank you!
Better option, use contraception, never need to buy a minivan.
Better yet, off yourself! No need for a car at all!
your review was the only one I found on-line that accurately indicates the passenger seat in the touring model only has 4-way adjustment (same issue with 2023 model). Honda advertises it as 8-way though (possibly they include the power lumbar adjustment in that number). Its even more confusing because they advertise the 12-way power driver seat as 8-way (the driver seat does have 8-way power plus 4-way lumbar)...so this is confusing to consumers, and your review was accurate on this finer detail - thank you for that!
But why no hybrid ?
Last time I checked, Carnival has no hybrid either
Sienna looks only good on xse and up trims which don’t offer 8 seats and 2nd row not removable. Whats going for them is gas mileage, awd, reliability. No one made a perfect minivan yet.
Nice video. If regularly plugged Pacifica Hybrid makes the best fuel economy especially in mountainous urban environment but is expensive. It has the same transmission as Sienna hence very reliable.
What do you mean the same transmission as the Sienna?
@@tropicalstorm339 eCVT with double planetary gears not a regular CVT which is not liked by many drivers. That transmission type was invented by Toyota and used in their hybrids since early Prius.
@Hugh M. Only 2017-2018 models. Later models are fine.
Some do buy them for handling. That mellow, easy handling that makes you think you are on a vacation road trip, chill and relaxed every single day. Lol
e owned several Hondas and Kias. Kia is great value but we found that all of the ones that we owned had many squeeks and creaks and had allo sorts of little glitches like bad radios, ignition interlock problems and sticky sliding doors. Kia service was terrible1 The people are very friendly but push non-essential service, screwed up winter/summer tire replacement twice (put someone elses tires on our vehicles) and a half hour oil change always turned into a 2 hour appointment! Honda also pushed non-essential service but I found them freindly and honest. We also have a Subaru and it is hands down the best vehicle and service. It won’t win a beauty pageant but I am all about practicality so Subi takes the blue ribbon. I would choose a van for after purchase quality and service. I have heard positive things about Toyota so for me it’s H or T. When is the Odyssey going hybrid?
Thanks for doing these videos! I am driving a 2012 Kia Sedona coming up to the 300'000 km mark in the next year. Debating on what to get used, I am liking the looks of the Kia Carnival and what they did with it! Very well done Kia! Your videos show some great aspects of each vehicle. I only caught at the end, from some of your videos, that you did not talk about "towing". This video you did and I was right away with my ears perked up! I would love to see some video of these vans towing there max capacity of either a camping trailer/sled/boat or utility trailer and see how they handle in the city and country roads in the winter and summer IE loading and unloading the toys at at boat ramp for example. With Kia making the move away from the MINI VAN look, people are going to change to these vehicles as the cargo space in a MPV is so much more greater then in a SUV. I love the van idea, for the amount of times I have had 6 people in there and it loaded, I was not concerned about the space. I have towed lot's of times with my current Sedona van, boat and sled trailer and it works well only then on the 401 the 10' wide trailer drags a bit as expected with the front guard to protect the sled. The $$ price for me will be 90% of my next purchase used or new...having a vehicle payment sucks at any time!
Great video Andrea! I laughed through this video. Tell Zack, removing folding seat is great for weight training! 😆 Both Toyota and Chrysler, my brother in law use to drive both of them second seat are so hard to removed!! Cheers!! ☕️☕️
Haha, I will let him know about the weight training! Glad you enjoyed the review, it's a good van, I see why people like it.
@@andreaspencer9813 It’s not for me but it’s perfect for the people mover or moving from one home to another. 👍🏻👍🏻
Even worse, the new Sienna's 2nd row is now designed to not be removed
So what vehicle fills the affordable family hauler/trip to Sam's or junk yard now?
My 2012 Mazda 5 still has 0 replacement competition: Drives like a car because it's a Mazda 3 underneath. Good on gas with its peppy 2.5L engine. Seats 6.
We need more poverty-class people movers!
I love mini van. I had 2 Chevy Astro vans. I love the convenient of getting in and out. The amount pf people it can carry. And I appreciate more when I'm homeless. Most people find them boring but I love mini vans. I'm looking for a Toyota Sienna SE with reasonable price in the used market. I can't find one within my price range.
I just don’t understand the price with so few features “for the price” its like their trying to kill off the minivan. Honda needs to stay competitive and not get compliment with KIA and Hyundai hot on their tail
I prefer the reliability, the mpg and the ease of recharging the Toyota Sienna. Handles better than the hybrid Highlander. Comes with AWD. DID i mention the reliability? Worth repeating.
Here in New York, there are low inventory of carnivals and they want 4-8k over msrp.
$5.00 a gallon I think the sienna is probably hard to find. Most vans are low 20’s mpg and the Toyota is 36 mpg it’s a no brainer.