@@Umega101 Wasn't it Dibble on Twitter crying for numbers and having a tantrum?🤔 over an actor that Graham probly meet for maybe 15 minutes in the filming of a TV show Grahams in, for a contact number Like Graham knows all that info Dibble is crying about and not the producers. 🤔
Happy to see this, and I am happier to be able to help you address the falsehoods. Your honesty is refreshing Graham. And I am glad I was able to help you see the BS Flint was peddling. Continue your work my friend, as it inspires millions.
Great video Graham! I am so glad to see you address Flint’s nonsense. When watching, we could fact check in real time and see that his data was seriously questionable or at the very least accidentally misquoted… Like many here, I appreciate all your rigorous, hands on research and also throughly enjoyed your fiction too!
@@ollaitsrealgood 🤔 If your color blind and think the sky is green then your telling the truth because you think your right and never been corrected? isn't that ignorance then? 🤔
@Exessive-Gaming this is the problem with the subjective "your truth" philosophy pushed by _some_ people. Olla is right, objectively; if we are telling the objective truth, we are right.
I assume that's how they've come to that estimate. Like, they know S-number of ships are currently known out of 5% of the mapped ocean and they extrapolate it to mean 100% of the ocean has 20S ships, or something like that. But that would be a very flawed mathematical estimate, as that ignores possible hubs on the oceanfloor. Like, if Atlantis was for example in the Azores, logically it would make sense for more ships to be found around there than in a random spot elsewhere in the ocean. But if we don't know where the hubs are, how can we rule out ancient ship wrecks?
Actually, the entire researched area catalogued by archeology is about 3 percent of earth's landmass, mostly shorelines. We know virtually nothing about the ocean depth's, and new ( mostly accidental) discoveries are frequent
He was sadly impossible to listen to. Choose to miss a Graham Hancock chat in favour of personal sanity… lol Over reaching ego in the form of self identified superiority is why I can no long listen to Neil Degras Tyson.
I thought it was pretty funny too but, not so bad his clothing. Nothing as shocking as all the tattoos and rings and you name it, adorning the current generation of quasi-educated youth.
You shouldn’t blame yourself for not having the facts ready for an argument you didn’t know beforehand. You should be proud of yourself for going into the debate with an open mind and not expecting to be lied to. You should be proud that you had no intention to mislead anybody. You seek the truth, not the win. It doesn’t even matter who is right or who is wrong, you gave us proof that you are the better man.
While the debate "loss" may have been unfortunate, seeing how it pushed you deeper into the research and has now exposed Dibble as a liar only further strengthens your argument 👏
Graham’s willingness to continually evolve his beliefs with His verifiable investigations gains My respect 10x over an academic paid player like Dribble
The only people claiming dribble won anything comes from ...... Wait..... I'll get there..... Bubble? No. Trouble? Not sure. Bibble? No no no, I remember! Flint Dribbles and his very own band of cronies (handkerchiefs?)
I don't think you did poorly. I think Flint was condescending, close minded and incredibly douchey. Tell him congrats on his degree in believing everything he was taught by his government compiled , liberal university history books.
Your comment is embarrassing and Flint beat the shit out of this poser so bad that he had to make this video months later to cover his ass because everyone with two brain cells thinks Flint wiped the floor with him.
The arrogance of that guy was insufferable. Even Joe was rolling his eyes at that choad. Happy to hear you follow up on that debate. Love your work, Graham!
Graham, you should definitely do more videos like this by yourself! I think it would be great to watch/listen to videos on specific topics in this format
Dibble is a mouthpiece for a version of “archeology” that is more fiction than fact. I’m very glad to have your critical thinking and open mind in order to find the truth. Thank you, Sir! 🙏❤️
Obviously, that is a part of it. I think it is also likely that Dibble is emotionally attached to his views. He's pissed that Graham has figured out more than he ever will during his career. Graham has reached (educationally) more people than all current archaeologists. And, probably even more pissed that Graham has done it on his own dime!
@@Eyes_Open how do you get feelings out of that? Critical thinking and an open mind have nothing to do with feelings, and are necessary. Do you think Tesla or Einstein were close-minded?
It's about as impossible as the stat that another one of Joe's interviewees dropped on us. The one that if you removed the gun deaths from our top ten cities the n the US would drop from first to like 150th in the world. That is so insanely dumb. If you removed the gun deaths from our top 100 cities, we'd drop from 1st to 1st, maybe 2nd in the world. I'm not going to look up the stats right now, but I know once you get past the 100th country in number of gun deaths, you are in single digit territory. As in the 100th country has like 8 gun deaths a year. It was such an absurd statement, yet Joe send to eat it up & I've heard it repeated since. It's utterly absurd, just as this Flint Dibble character is a fraud.
Flint himself has said that the 3 million number was a mistake. He was referring to an article that said 300000 wrecks and the 3 million number was an estimate in the article. He acknowledged this mistake long ago.
@@Eyes_Open Imagine taken an article out of context to prove a point and do little to no research on said article then apologize later for your lack of knowledge.🤔
@@Eyes_Open Yeah but... Many of us, who watched the "debate" had only Dr Dibble's appeal to authority to go by. Acknowledgement after the fact is not good enough, although it may be laudable. Basically, if he was mistaken about that "Fact" (actually an estimate), then what else might he be mistaken about? The debate continues...
You didn't do that badly in the debate Mr Hancock, you were up against lies so how are you meant to fight against that. You are a beacon for people like me so thank you. Keep it up.
@@onapermohow bout his claim that there is a concerted effort by "big archeology" against him? Thats clearly a lie and Graham trying to play victim to gain sympathy.
Mr Hancock, Rogan's debate was fascinating and painful to say the least. This is an impressive comeback, although I feel your pain and it saddens me. You should be proud of your endeavours indeed. Thanks for your eloquence and terrific work.😊
I think most of us could see straight through Mr Dibble from the start. Your overwhelming passion, and seeking truth, is a blessing we all share. We love you Graham. Keep up your fabulous work. We need you.
Thank you for being sand in the eyes of every official archaeologist out there. Especially Hiawasse. Thank you for enlightening me as to the true history of humans. Without you and Randall Carlson all there is are lies.
we dont know the true history yet, and that ok. thats all graham is trying to say. keep an open mind and look at the surmounting evidence that there is significantly more to it than mainstream archeology is obsessed with making us believe. we need to look deeper and not rest on our laurels, assuming we know everything as fact
I agree with you - right up until your last sentence as that’s a wildly sweeping generalisation that’s as untrue as it is unhelpful. As someone who knows Graham, I have to say I think he’d agree.
You,Mr.Hancock, are somebody I would listen to all day every day, because you have open mind. People like Flint,on the other hand,who think that they already found and explained everything are so boring,that nobody pays any attention to their work. Keep the great work,Mr Hanckock,you are the true scientist of our time,history will remember you,not Mr Doodle!
Well stated! It is clear to me that the wider story may purposefully be obfuscated by the establishment. Thank you for helping to illuminate and open our collective minds to the idea that there is more to this very complex story of human history.
Depends on the environment, if a under water mud slide covered the titanic rendering if from any oxygen exposure it would be preserved for a very long time.
Right? What a fully ridiculous talking point. Unless folks 10,000 years ago were floating around on stone ships, the likelyhood of any other materials surviving ocean action that long… and Dribble calls himself a person of science, laughable 🐃💩
@@DespaceMan another point, the fossils we have seen are a tiny slither of the prehistoric animal pie. And some animals don't fossilize, like jellyfish.
@@jeninlight exactly, very little survives time. A bridge has been found inside a cave on a Mediterranean island and has rocked scientists... it was unusually protected.
It's just not possible. It takes too much time to truly fact check something, and it would derail everything. As hancock said, some things need to be taken at face value and later scrutinized. It also would be a possible uncomfortable situation for the guests, which is probably not the goal of the Rogan team. They let the experts talk and show their fields, and if they are wrong on something, people will see later. It may look like a bad thing, but it is the only real way.
@@rhuanv When Michael Shermer was on against Hancock and Carlson, Jamie was doing a lot of fact checking. Maybe because Dibble is supposed to be an expert in his field they trusted him
@@Elstuderino Flint Dibble only has a degree in ancient agricultural archeology, and even then he was a D+ grade. All his knowledge derived from his fathers proven wrong theories and peer reviews of his friends digging dirt up, after someone else doesn't make you an expert.
great Graham! keep at it, I find your work fascinating, not only the subject matter itself, but bringing light to how "science" in the end can be very human and not scientific at all. the free debate and discussion of the internet brings a lot more brilliant minds to subjects they wouldn't ordinarily been able to connect with each other, this should be embraced as a way to get us to real answers faster, rather than those elite that feel threatened that they might be left behind.
@@CuriosityQuery Has nothing to do with sympathy Ppl want to know our origins and mainstream anything is bunch of nonsense Graham is one of many pioneers who have put forth undeniable evidence that what we are told is clearly a bunch of crap And human history is much more interesting than we thought It’s anything but a straight line progression Advanced technology was here in ancient times Just in the last 2-3,000 years we went through hills and troughs of our understanding Greeks, Romans, Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Sumerians etc all these ancient ppl were much more advanced than we were in the 1700s Ppl from 2-3,000 years ago were more advanced than ppl were just few hundred years ago
Dear Graham, my advice is to consider just presenting your evidence and hypothesis with respect to an ancient civilisation without reference to the conflicting opinions of others. I frankly don’t care if an archaeologist or body of academia disagrees with you and your findings, nor that they often disagree with each other too. Just present your excellent, wonderful, thought-provoking work at face value for the rest of us to enjoy, ponder and learn from, and to be inspired by. There’s really no need to mention “mainstream archaeology” or to debate the topic with their representatives. Just find the evidence where you can and don’t feel you have to prove anything. You really don’t! Thanks for all the fantastic works to date, and those still to come!
Winning a debate simply means one is a good debater. To fully discuss takes time and well thought out responses. Archeologists simply look at something old, make up stories and demand subservience to their tall tale. (Some archeologists admit as much.)
I love that he just made a whole video about how archaeologists lie, but then uses multiple examples from published archaeological research to support his claims. You can't make this up.
Huh. So, everything archeologists state is truth? Or is only a percentage a lie? What percentage lie might be considered acceptable lying?Hint: Clovis First. What sources should be used to demonstrate a lie in archeology -- medicine, perhaps. Or agriculture?
I’m not sure if this message will reach you, Graham, but I want you to know that I deeply respect your work. I studied geography and have a strong background in anthropology and geology. The questions you raise, the ideas you explore, and the points you emphasize touch on areas that are far from being fully understood or resolved. It’s through asking questions that science advances. Reflecting and challenging mainstream academia is at the heart of true scholarship. Critical thinking and rational inquiry, much like Alfred Wegener's theory of plate tectonics-sadly only accepted after his death-are what push knowledge forward. Your ideas aren’t harmful; rather, they expose one of the greatest gaps in understanding, free from villains but shaped by ignorance of the unknown. Keep going-you have far more supporters than you might realize. Thank you, Graham and best greetings from Germany!
I'm still wondering why Graham didn't bring up the precision "vases" found that are absolutely impossible to have been created without machining technology. And the icing on the cake is that conventional egyptologists date these as pre dynastic. It would be interesting to hear Dibbles take on them. Graham is hands down the most important speaker of our generation regarding our lost past and it's my guess his work will one day be vindicated. The Kudos should go to you Graham ! Cheers from Canada.
thank you for everything you do. @DeDunking got the ball rolling with the fact check -- I'm so glad to see you release this just in time for Season 2 of A.Arch. Archaeologists have no idea how out of touch they are with reality and it's gonna take people like you and the society of observant youtubers to bring it into the light.
My goodness. Your comment represents a disturbing anti-intelellectual movement commonly found on channels like this. No rationality required, just emotion.
@@Eyes_Open I'm not feeling emotional about this, I just think there's a house of cards that needs to blow over. Models change and our understanding expands. I have nothing against any archaeologist personally, but I believe they need to take Graham's evidence seriously and not just call him a non-intellectual racist. To me, that appears to be an irrational, emotional response more than anything.
I just want to thank you, Graham, for your remarkable work. You are the real scientist and a real treasure. I think Flint did not engage with you in a honest conversation in search of truth, he was "debunking racist pseudo-science" by any means necessary or something like that.
Yes, because Graham is a skilled journalist, he used distortion at the beginning to seed dislike for Flint and portray himself as vulnerable. Graham- 70 yo veteran of media, probable millionaire, 12 x guest on JRE, popular author, speaker, producer and TV host. Flint- around 40 yo Archeologist, works in the field and in classrooms on short contracts, recovering from cancer surgery and chemo therapy. Literally had to book two weeks of holiday to prepare and travel for JRE...
Thanks for this video. Your reputation is none the lesser to anyone who knows your work. I have been a long time follower and love your work and passion. Above all, Dibble proved his closed-mindedness as well as his knowledge in that talk.
Archeologists reasonably assume that the Phoenician culture was a sea faring people even though there are no known submerged ships found of that culture. The only direct knowledge they have is from remains of ships that were in discovered shipyards. So if there were an even slightly older civilization where we never found their shipyards, would we even have a clue that they had ships?
Imagine Graham took his time in a responding after over 5 months later Yet Flint had to go right back to his TH-cam right after the podcast and spit out more propaganda on Graham in that video on things he told Joe he never said and went right back and said them in his hate video. Graham just one upped Chris rock and took the slap and came back harder than ever.
I thought it was a decent healthy debate. As a neutral layman I agree Flint came across 'better' but what would be beneficial for everybody would be a part 2 debate between you two. Hopefully in good spirits! Debating our past should absolutely have room for fantastic theories, and these theories should not fear scrutiny but rather welcome it.
Graham You and Your work is SUPERIOR ......HUMAN BODY IS THE PORTAL Mind the EGOself No need to explain yourself Yout finding are great inspiration for MANY MANY MANY
Thank you for your clarity and humility Mr Hancock. I've been passionately following your investigative work on lost civilizations and was heartbroken when you invalidated 30 years of your own brilliant and brave independent research when you conceded in this debate that "there is no evidence for a lost civilization" You have regained my intellectual respect for this.
trickery and deception ..for the moment he looked good but destroyed his reputation in the long run you came out with your integrity and reputation in tacked .. unfortunately for him he is not to be taken seriously and made a fool of himself ..we all know that your are to be taken seriously ~thank you for all your beautiful work over the many years and enlighting the world 🌹
Mr. Hancock, for what it's worth, you are by far my favorite guest on Joe Rogan. I've thoroughly enjoyed following you online. I look forward to future appearances from yourself online. Hope all is well for you and your family.
Well done Graham, These pompous KnowItAll's need a good dose of humility. We must realize what we don't know is vastly more voluminous of what we know.
Basically, Mister Dibble tried to argue that the absence of evidence equates to evidence of absence and everyone who took at least one course in higher education knows that's a nonsensical point to defend. It's just not true. Kudo's to Graham for taking Mister Dribbles words at face value, sadly he's shown he's not worthy of such trust.
And evidence of nothing equals to a whole global advanced ancient civilisation? That has to back track all the time.. yeah they figured out longitude .. ,( Graham feelings ) 😂 Sheeps
@@timmysvensson4902 you literally have no idea what your talking about. Ignorance may be bliss, however it should never be an excuse to assume you know best.
@@jeninlight well what are we going to prove first, Grahams ancient civilisation or middle earth? How can you be sure middle earth didnt exist 20k years ago? How many procent of the globe have you searched?
@@timmysvensson4902 Graham isn't the person who brought up the lack of ship wrecks as a counterpoint to his theory. That's on Mr. Dibble. Graham points to structures and constructions to support his theory. If there was a massive flood (which scientists do agree on) in our world today, what evidence of life do you guess will be found in 7000+ years time? Even something like Mt. Rushmore will probably have corroded away over time. Just because the electronic device we're communicating with will be long gone in even a thousand years time, will scientists and researchers living in that time period be right to assume we aren't communicating?
Also pure speculation on my part, but maybe the ancients ships were so well crafted, they were unsinkable and after the flood, they were dismantled and used to help rebuild settlements?
Graham, I've been following you and your work for a long time. Don't waste your time with Dibble's drivel dribble. You are trying to compile the truth, he is not. Brush him and his inaccuracies aside as what YOU do is important and fascinating!! Keep on keeping on!!
Thank you for making this video! There were so many of Flint’s “facts” that were false or taken out of context. The fact that he misrepresented data in this way does not help mainstream academia what so ever.
It's called gaslighting. I once watched a Discover Channel doc about a seamingly ancient Chinese/Asian shipwreck off the coast of California. They explained it myst not actually be chinese, because ancient Chinese navigators could not sail the deep oceans, drawing a line straight accross the Pacific as an impossible route, while ignoring the fact you can clearly sail along the coast and islands from China, up to Russia, to Alaska and back down the West Coast.
More backpettling/victimhood from Graham and another masterclass in cherry picking and/or ignoring other research. You proved nothing but your continuing misunderstanding of the field. Bravo you just gave minuteman and Dibble more content.
An interesting watch. I have to say though, and I don't mean to disregard your feelings on the podcast, I disagree. Flint wasn't a better debater. I found him to be childish, dismissive, and at times, downright mocking. He wasn't very well spoken either. Also, as somebody who has for a long time made primitive tools, the confidence with which he wrote off that stone annoyed me. It didn't feel like a debate held in good faith, and with the addition of the attacks made upon your character, I was left with a sour taste in my mouth. I thought this performance spoke volumes about his community, and he did himself and the subject a disservice.
Thank you for all your hard work, diligence and persistence Graham. I wish you could know the positive changes in mindsets and attitudes you inspire, instead of people focusing on people's opposition and ignorance. You are a true scholar and inspiration to the new paradigm emerging. Thank you. 🙏
It's not about you perform poorly in the debate. It's about FD who act like a superior human being that gets me. Edit : timestamps 16:57 Slippery FD 21:00 @DeDunking 25:13 so which one is true, FD? 36:08 Shot fired 48:41 Quoted out of context Happy to see you in a good health. Wishing all the best for you and your family. Disclaimer : I understand that NOT EVERYTHING that Graham said is true or proven to be true, that's basically how theory works, and I will stand on that hill. However, what he does for the last 30 years is extraordinary, and I agree with @DeDunking, that he inspires more young people to study archaeology. That, is remarkable.
Welcome back Mr Hancock. 👍🏻
He's sales must be down, has to play another _victim card_ to boost his sales
@@Umega101 I think he’s excellent and thought provoking. What don’t you like him ?
@@Umega101 Wasn't it Dibble on Twitter crying for numbers and having a tantrum?🤔 over an actor that Graham probly meet for maybe 15 minutes in the filming of a TV show Grahams in, for a contact number Like Graham knows all that info Dibble is crying about and not the producers. 🤔
Happy to see this, and I am happier to be able to help you address the falsehoods.
Your honesty is refreshing Graham. And I am glad I was able to help you see the BS Flint was peddling.
Continue your work my friend, as it inspires millions.
You got a mention Dan!!
Oh no the worst guy on YT, and one who intentionally lies
@@timmysvensson4902 Dudu, get a hobby. This personal crusade your on against Graham is unbecoming, and a bit creep show. Grow up. Move on.
Yes, good work, and speaking as a chemist the actual ice-core metal data looks really interesting.
You are doing God’s work my friend.
Great video Graham!
I am so glad to see you address Flint’s nonsense.
When watching, we could fact check in real time and see that his data was seriously questionable or at the very least accidentally misquoted…
Like many here, I appreciate all your rigorous, hands on research and also throughly enjoyed your fiction too!
Dibble’s arrogance eclipses anything worthwhile he has to say.
👍🏻 Well done Graham.
Some of us are concerned with being right and some of us are concerned with the truth.
This is the dumbest thing I've read all day. Being right means telling the truth.
@@ollaitsrealgood 🤔
If your color blind and think the sky is green then your telling the truth because you think your right and never been corrected? isn't that ignorance then? 🤔
Graham is concerned with neither. He backpettled all the way back to "I'm just asking questions". That says a lot about someone.
@Exessive-Gaming this is the problem with the subjective "your truth" philosophy pushed by _some_ people. Olla is right, objectively; if we are telling the objective truth, we are right.
@@donnmckee4973 care to explain what, exactly, asking questions says about someone and why it's a problem.
Yeah, 3 million mapped shipwrecks sounded high to me, especially since we’ve only mapped like 5% of the ocean floor.
Exactly !!! 👍🏼
I assume that's how they've come to that estimate. Like, they know S-number of ships are currently known out of 5% of the mapped ocean and they extrapolate it to mean 100% of the ocean has 20S ships, or something like that. But that would be a very flawed mathematical estimate, as that ignores possible hubs on the oceanfloor. Like, if Atlantis was for example in the Azores, logically it would make sense for more ships to be found around there than in a random spot elsewhere in the ocean. But if we don't know where the hubs are, how can we rule out ancient ship wrecks?
Bingo!
Actually, the entire researched area catalogued by archeology is about 3 percent of earth's landmass, mostly shorelines. We know virtually nothing about the ocean depth's, and new ( mostly accidental) discoveries are frequent
he was just making a guess, its not his field. You can tell he speculating on the number.
Oh, Dibble! The guy wearing his father's clothes? He was hilarious!
He was sadly impossible to listen to. Choose to miss a Graham Hancock chat in favour of personal sanity… lol
Over reaching ego in the form of self identified superiority is why I can no long listen to Neil Degras Tyson.
@@jeninlight I have exactly the same thoughts about Dribble and Neil deGrasse Tyson. Both are so closed minded. Weird so-called scientists..
I thought it was pretty funny too but, not so bad his clothing. Nothing as shocking as all the tattoos and rings and you name it, adorning the current generation of quasi-educated youth.
@@leocrossfield you should take a look at the “after skool” 10 minute automated video titled “why smart people are so stupid”
Thank goodness for your courage against the archeological egotists of the world.
Here's to an extraordinarily long life in full health to Graham and Randall.
You shouldn’t blame yourself for not having the facts ready for an argument you didn’t know beforehand.
You should be proud of yourself for going into the debate with an open mind and not expecting to be lied to.
You should be proud that you had no intention to mislead anybody.
You seek the truth, not the win.
It doesn’t even matter who is right or who is wrong, you gave us proof that you are the better man.
While the debate "loss" may have been unfortunate, seeing how it pushed you deeper into the research and has now exposed Dibble as a liar only further strengthens your argument 👏
Considering there is no proof of lies and only claims made by illogical people, what has Hancock gained here?
Graham’s willingness to continually evolve his beliefs with His verifiable investigations gains My respect 10x over an academic paid player like Dribble
The only people claiming dribble won anything comes from ...... Wait..... I'll get there..... Bubble? No. Trouble? Not sure. Bibble? No no no, I remember! Flint Dribbles and his very own band of cronies (handkerchiefs?)
@@Eyes_OpenIt just came to me!
Eyes open 😂😂😂. In all seriousness though please explain what you mean by your post. What are you talking about?
@@danieldanton1129 don't bother, they're an "NPC" who didn't watch the video
I don't think you did poorly. I think Flint was condescending, close minded and incredibly douchey. Tell him congrats on his degree in believing everything he was taught by his government compiled , liberal university history books.
Your comment is embarrassing and Flint beat the shit out of this poser so bad that he had to make this video months later to cover his ass because everyone with two brain cells thinks Flint wiped the floor with him.
Ha, so glad you took the time to do this. He seemed like he was full of BS! ❤
Flint will be responding to this silliness.
@@Eyes_Open so, your point?
@@Eyes_Open And we care why? about anything Flint has to say outside of his academic degrees? 🤔
I have always found your work very fair and has no discrimination against anyone and full of interesting questions to be answered.
The arrogance of that guy was insufferable. Even Joe was rolling his eyes at that choad. Happy to hear you follow up on that debate. Love your work, Graham!
Not arrogant. Just spit facts. Flint destroyed him. Fact
Choad...😂😂 👍🏻
How did Flint destroy him when he lied? lol I’m confused
@@philuu6357I found Dibbles alt account
@@trevorward4762bro nothing Graham says is real. Its all hypothetical and fantasy. And I love it. But Flint is literally knees deep in old ass dirt
Graham, you should definitely do more videos like this by yourself! I think it would be great to watch/listen to videos on specific topics in this format
agreed
I agree.
Thank you, Graham. We appreciate you and your work. I wish I could see more and more of these kinds of debates.
Dibble is a mouthpiece for a version of “archeology” that is more fiction than fact. I’m very glad to have your critical thinking and open mind in order to find the truth. Thank you, Sir! 🙏❤️
Obviously, that is a part of it. I think it is also likely that Dibble is emotionally attached to his views. He's pissed that Graham has figured out more than he ever will during his career. Graham has reached (educationally) more people than all current archaeologists. And, probably even more pissed that Graham has done it on his own dime!
In other words, you prefer feelings over evidence.
@@Eyes_Openwhat do you mean? Empty statements are great and all 🎉 just say what you think 🤔
@@Eyes_Open how do you get feelings out of that? Critical thinking and an open mind have nothing to do with feelings, and are necessary. Do you think Tesla or Einstein were close-minded?
Humbly, the "3 million shipwrecks" stat dibble provided was an immediate red flag. that number is simply impossible.
It's about as impossible as the stat that another one of Joe's interviewees dropped on us. The one that if you removed the gun deaths from our top ten cities the n the US would drop from first to like 150th in the world. That is so insanely dumb. If you removed the gun deaths from our top 100 cities, we'd drop from 1st to 1st, maybe 2nd in the world. I'm not going to look up the stats right now, but I know once you get past the 100th country in number of gun deaths, you are in single digit territory. As in the 100th country has like 8 gun deaths a year. It was such an absurd statement, yet Joe send to eat it up & I've heard it repeated since. It's utterly absurd, just as this Flint Dibble character is a fraud.
Flint himself has said that the 3 million number was a mistake. He was referring to an article that said 300000 wrecks and the 3 million number was an estimate in the article. He acknowledged this mistake long ago.
@@Eyes_Open Imagine taken an article out of context to prove a point and do little to no research on said article then apologize later for your lack of knowledge.🤔
@@Eyes_Open Yeah but... Many of us, who watched the "debate" had only Dr Dibble's appeal to authority to go by. Acknowledgement after the fact is not good enough, although it may be laudable. Basically, if he was mistaken about that "Fact" (actually an estimate), then what else might he be mistaken about? The debate continues...
@@Eyes_Open and the other 30492532 things he lied/ wasnt honest about?
Keep shining the light☀️Graham, more people ate starting to wake up to the truth you are presenting.
Yes, the truth of zero evidence for Hancock.
You didn't do that badly in the debate Mr Hancock, you were up against lies so how are you meant to fight against that. You are a beacon for people like me so thank you. Keep it up.
yeah his own lies
@@driveboy317 his own lies? which ones?
More info please? 🙏 @@driveboy317
@@driveboy317you take your time though buddy 😄
@@onapermohow bout his claim that there is a concerted effort by "big archeology" against him? Thats clearly a lie and Graham trying to play victim to gain sympathy.
I think Joe Rogan should have both of you back on his show so you can challenge that last debate. Just saying
Nah. Just Graham.
Just dribble on his own ... Let him tell the story from his perspective... Fact checking all the way... I bet he's suddenly too busy
They have been lying for so long it's become a fine art...
They want us to live in their reality their truth not the truth
How ironic.
You didn't make a mistake. It was simply a learning experience that allowed you to level up your knowledge and skills 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I love that Graham used Dan from DeDunking because he is another critical thinker and lets you know his position or theory. Great guy! 🙏❤️
I am always so impressed by your consistent scientific mind and your grace. I've been learning from you for years.
Mr Hancock, Rogan's debate was fascinating and painful to say the least. This is an impressive comeback, although I feel your pain and it saddens me. You should be proud of your endeavours indeed. Thanks for your eloquence and terrific work.😊
Great to hear from you again. please keep up the great work.
If Dribble lied he should wear a traffic cone on his head and be banned from using a Fedora for 18 months (suspended sentence).
I think most of us could see straight through Mr Dibble from the start. Your overwhelming passion, and seeking truth, is a blessing we all share. We love you Graham. Keep up your fabulous work. We need you.
See through him how? He presented facts no matter how you try to spin it.
@@sthlmfpsappreciate your response.
@@sthlmfpsLies*
@@sthlmfpsdid you watch the video bro?
Dibble actually uses evidence not “that would be cool right.”
Thank you for being sand in the eyes of every official archaeologist out there. Especially Hiawasse. Thank you for enlightening me as to the true history of humans. Without you and Randall Carlson all there is are lies.
we dont know the true history yet, and that ok. thats all graham is trying to say. keep an open mind and look at the surmounting evidence that there is significantly more to it than mainstream archeology is obsessed with making us believe. we need to look deeper and not rest on our laurels, assuming we know everything as fact
I agree with you - right up until your last sentence as that’s a wildly sweeping generalisation that’s as untrue as it is unhelpful.
As someone who knows Graham, I have to say I think he’d agree.
You,Mr.Hancock, are somebody I would listen to all day every day, because you have open mind. People like Flint,on the other hand,who think that they already found and explained everything are so boring,that nobody pays any attention to their work. Keep the great work,Mr Hanckock,you are the true scientist of our time,history will remember you,not Mr Doodle!
Your hubris and tenacity are inspiring sir! Thank you for your efforts!
I think you need to check the definition of hubris, lol.
@@medwayhospitalprotest I was trying to imply lack of but I guess I did not word it well. English is my second language.
I don’t think you mean huberis. Perhaps confidence or persistence?
Well stated! It is clear to me that the wider story may purposefully be obfuscated by the establishment. Thank you for helping to illuminate and open our collective minds to the idea that there is more to this very complex story of human history.
After seeing what terrible shape the Titanic is in lately, I'm not surprised there is very little evidence of ancient boats.
Depends on the environment, if a under water mud slide covered the titanic rendering if from any oxygen exposure it would be preserved for a very long time.
Right? What a fully ridiculous talking point. Unless folks 10,000 years ago were floating around on stone ships, the likelyhood of any other materials surviving ocean action that long… and Dribble calls himself a person of science, laughable 🐃💩
@@DespaceMan another point, the fossils we have seen are a tiny slither of the prehistoric animal pie. And some animals don't fossilize, like jellyfish.
@@jeninlight exactly, very little survives time. A bridge has been found inside a cave on a Mediterranean island and has rocked scientists... it was unusually protected.
@@DespaceMan Sure, being covered by mud or whatever might protect some materials from decay -- but also make it a lot harder to ever find 🤔
Why wasn't Jamie fact checking any of this?
It's just not possible. It takes too much time to truly fact check something, and it would derail everything. As hancock said, some things need to be taken at face value and later scrutinized. It also would be a possible uncomfortable situation for the guests, which is probably not the goal of the Rogan team. They let the experts talk and show their fields, and if they are wrong on something, people will see later. It may look like a bad thing, but it is the only real way.
@@rhuanv When Michael Shermer was on against Hancock and Carlson, Jamie was doing a lot of fact checking. Maybe because Dibble is supposed to be an expert in his field they trusted him
@@Elstuderino Flint Dibble only has a degree in ancient agricultural archeology, and even then he was a D+ grade. All his knowledge derived from his fathers proven wrong theories and peer reviews of his friends digging dirt up, after someone else doesn't make you an expert.
@@Exessive-Gaming By all accounts, by discussing areas that aren't his field he is engaging in pseudo archeology.
great Graham! keep at it, I find your work fascinating, not only the subject matter itself, but bringing light to how "science" in the end can be very human and not scientific at all. the free debate and discussion of the internet brings a lot more brilliant minds to subjects they wouldn't ordinarily been able to connect with each other, this should be embraced as a way to get us to real answers faster, rather than those elite that feel threatened that they might be left behind.
Thank you, Graham, for not accepting everything as a fact when we're told to do so.
Been waiting for this for months
Graham! Nice to see you...I think you did fine! Hope you and yours are well.
People like Dibble should answer in court for all their defamation. He's lucky that Graham has more important work to do
Bless you sir! I am grateful you continue to do research on finding out the truth. We need more open-minded journalists like you in the world ❤
Good job Graham! very good video you put together, good to see you got a good Mic and comfortably sitting in your own space!
1,000 Likes in 1 Hour, You know People Love you! that's amazing.
He just confirmed what we all have been dealing with. Lies.
The humble introduction says a lot, Graham. Looking forward to Ancient Apocalypse!
The humble intro is a hook to get audience sympathy. This has been his strategy. It makes his audience believe anything he says after that. IMHO.🤷♂
@@CuriosityQuery
Has nothing to do with sympathy
Ppl want to know our origins and mainstream anything is bunch of nonsense
Graham is one of many pioneers who have put forth undeniable evidence that what we are told is clearly a bunch of crap
And human history is much more interesting than we thought
It’s anything but a straight line progression
Advanced technology was here in ancient times
Just in the last 2-3,000 years we went through hills and troughs of our understanding
Greeks, Romans, Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Sumerians etc all these ancient ppl were much more advanced than we were in the 1700s
Ppl from 2-3,000 years ago were more advanced than ppl were just few hundred years ago
Dear Graham, my advice is to consider just presenting your evidence and hypothesis with respect to an ancient civilisation without reference to the conflicting opinions of others. I frankly don’t care if an archaeologist or body of academia disagrees with you and your findings, nor that they often disagree with each other too. Just present your excellent, wonderful, thought-provoking work at face value for the rest of us to enjoy, ponder and learn from, and to be inspired by. There’s really no need to mention “mainstream archaeology” or to debate the topic with their representatives. Just find the evidence where you can and don’t feel you have to prove anything. You really don’t! Thanks for all the fantastic works to date, and those still to come!
The problem with that is that Hancock himself says he doesn’t have any evidence
Eloquent as always.... I'd been anticipating this... Namaste my friend!
Flint reminded me of when the little kids dressed as adults in the little rascals movie.
Winning a debate simply means one is a good debater. To fully discuss takes time and well thought out responses. Archeologists simply look at something old, make up stories and demand subservience to their tall tale. (Some archeologists admit as much.)
Don't forget he literally got Graham to admit his claims are poorly substantiated. This video is Graham trying to hold on to his legacy.
Awwww yiss. Good to see you Graham. I hope you're well.
I love that he just made a whole video about how archaeologists lie, but then uses multiple examples from published archaeological research to support his claims. You can't make this up.
Huh. So, everything archeologists state is truth? Or is only a percentage a lie? What percentage lie might be considered acceptable lying?Hint: Clovis First.
What sources should be used to demonstrate a lie in archeology -- medicine, perhaps. Or agriculture?
@@bendy6626 I'm just saying he's picking and choosing what he wants to be true and what isn't. It's weird.
Gram don't worry, just keep at it please!
I’m not sure if this message will reach you, Graham, but I want you to know that I deeply respect your work. I studied geography and have a strong background in anthropology and geology. The questions you raise, the ideas you explore, and the points you emphasize touch on areas that are far from being fully understood or resolved. It’s through asking questions that science advances. Reflecting and challenging mainstream academia is at the heart of true scholarship. Critical thinking and rational inquiry, much like Alfred Wegener's theory of plate tectonics-sadly only accepted after his death-are what push knowledge forward. Your ideas aren’t harmful; rather, they expose one of the greatest gaps in understanding, free from villains but shaped by ignorance of the unknown. Keep going-you have far more supporters than you might realize. Thank you, Graham and best greetings from Germany!
I'm still wondering why Graham didn't bring up the precision "vases" found that are absolutely impossible to have been created without machining technology. And the icing on the cake is that conventional egyptologists date these as pre dynastic. It would be interesting to hear Dibbles take on them. Graham is hands down the most important speaker of our generation regarding our lost past and it's my guess his work will one day be vindicated. The Kudos should go to you Graham ! Cheers from Canada.
thank you for everything you do. @DeDunking got the ball rolling with the fact check -- I'm so glad to see you release this just in time for Season 2 of A.Arch. Archaeologists have no idea how out of touch they are with reality and it's gonna take people like you and the society of observant youtubers to bring it into the light.
My goodness. Your comment represents a disturbing anti-intelellectual movement commonly found on channels like this. No rationality required, just emotion.
@@Eyes_Open I'm not feeling emotional about this, I just think there's a house of cards that needs to blow over. Models change and our understanding expands. I have nothing against any archaeologist personally, but I believe they need to take Graham's evidence seriously and not just call him a non-intellectual racist. To me, that appears to be an irrational, emotional response more than anything.
Thank you for taking the time to respond on these subjects.
I just want to thank you, Graham, for your remarkable work. You are the real scientist and a real treasure. I think Flint did not engage with you in a honest conversation in search of truth, he was "debunking racist pseudo-science" by any means necessary or something like that.
My favourite words to describe Flint came from this video, Slippery, Weasel and Propaganda
Yes, because Graham is a skilled journalist, he used distortion at the beginning to seed dislike for Flint and portray himself as vulnerable. Graham- 70 yo veteran of media, probable millionaire, 12 x guest on JRE, popular author, speaker, producer and TV host. Flint- around 40 yo Archeologist, works in the field and in classrooms on short contracts, recovering from cancer surgery and chemo therapy. Literally had to book two weeks of holiday to prepare and travel for JRE...
Dibble's pants are on fire!
Probably his dad's pants.
@@andymccracken4046 Fore sure lmao
Thank you. Well done
Love your content!
Liked and subbed - good to see you here sir. Thank you for all you do.
Thanks for this video. Your reputation is none the lesser to anyone who knows your work. I have been a long time follower and love your work and passion. Above all, Dibble proved his closed-mindedness as well as his knowledge in that talk.
Graham❤ i love, and then i mean love your theories. U and Randall has opend alot of New mind Doors. Thank u! Love from Norway
Love you Graham. Your show is amazing. Can't wait for the second season
Archeologists reasonably assume that the Phoenician culture was a sea faring people even though there are no known submerged ships found of that culture. The only direct knowledge they have is from remains of ships that were in discovered shipyards. So if there were an even slightly older civilization where we never found their shipyards, would we even have a clue that they had ships?
Imagine Graham took his time in a responding after over 5 months later Yet Flint had to go right back to his TH-cam right after the podcast and spit out more propaganda on Graham in that video on things he told Joe he never said and went right back and said them in his hate video.
Graham just one upped Chris rock and took the slap and came back harder than ever.
Great work! Mr Hancock.
Healing and gratitude saga continues ☯️
Dibble looks like Hanson the Butler from Scary Movie 🤣
Finally, a funny dig at Dibble.
We’ve all had an off day Mr Hancock.🤷♂️ KEEPONKEEPINON my friend .
I thought it was a decent healthy debate. As a neutral layman I agree Flint came across 'better' but what would be beneficial for everybody would be a part 2 debate between you two. Hopefully in good spirits!
Debating our past should absolutely have room for fantastic theories, and these theories should not fear scrutiny but rather welcome it.
Graham You and Your work is SUPERIOR ......HUMAN BODY IS THE PORTAL Mind the EGOself No need to explain yourself Yout finding are great inspiration for MANY MANY MANY
Thanks Mr. Hancock, keep up the good work, and never let a Dribble get you down!
We love you Graham! We appreciate your work so much.
Mr. Hancock, love your dedication and work. So glad you came back to defend your finding! Stay strong!!
You are amazing and your work is incredible
Totally agree.
Thank you for your clarity and humility Mr Hancock. I've been passionately following your investigative work on lost civilizations and was heartbroken when you invalidated 30 years of your own brilliant and brave independent research when you conceded in this debate that "there is no evidence for a lost civilization" You have regained my intellectual respect for this.
Welcome back Graham, love your work
If there was fact checking on JRE then there would be no JRE.
trickery and deception ..for the moment he looked good but destroyed his reputation in the long run you came out with your integrity and reputation in tacked .. unfortunately for him he is not to be taken seriously and made a fool of himself ..we all know that your are to be taken seriously ~thank you for all your beautiful work over the many years and enlighting the world 🌹
Mr. Hancock, for what it's worth, you are by far my favorite guest on Joe Rogan. I've thoroughly enjoyed following you online. I look forward to future appearances from yourself online. Hope all is well for you and your family.
Well done Graham, These pompous KnowItAll's need a good dose of humility. We must realize what we don't know is vastly more voluminous of what we know.
I’m happy you have further addressed the racism issue - as there are lots of racists in the broader sphere regarding “alternative” history.
Basically, Mister Dibble tried to argue that the absence of evidence equates to evidence of absence and everyone who took at least one course in higher education knows that's a nonsensical point to defend. It's just not true. Kudo's to Graham for taking Mister Dribbles words at face value, sadly he's shown he's not worthy of such trust.
And evidence of nothing equals to a whole global advanced ancient civilisation? That has to back track all the time.. yeah they figured out longitude .. ,( Graham feelings ) 😂 Sheeps
@@timmysvensson4902 you literally have no idea what your talking about. Ignorance may be bliss, however it should never be an excuse to assume you know best.
@@jeninlight well what are we going to prove first, Grahams ancient civilisation or middle earth? How can you be sure middle earth didnt exist 20k years ago? How many procent of the globe have you searched?
@@jeninlight and Graham think he knows more than a field of thousands of people, that is hybris.
@@timmysvensson4902 Graham isn't the person who brought up the lack of ship wrecks as a counterpoint to his theory. That's on Mr. Dibble. Graham points to structures and constructions to support his theory.
If there was a massive flood (which scientists do agree on) in our world today, what evidence of life do you guess will be found in 7000+ years time? Even something like Mt. Rushmore will probably have corroded away over time.
Just because the electronic device we're communicating with will be long gone in even a thousand years time, will scientists and researchers living in that time period be right to assume we aren't communicating?
Also pure speculation on my part, but maybe the ancients ships were so well crafted, they were unsinkable and after the flood, they were dismantled and used to help rebuild settlements?
More like Dribble. Dribble on his dirty beard.
Graham, I've been following you and your work for a long time.
Don't waste your time with Dibble's drivel dribble.
You are trying to compile the truth, he is not.
Brush him and his inaccuracies aside as what YOU do is
important and fascinating!! Keep on keeping on!!
Thank you for making this video! There were so many of Flint’s “facts” that were false or taken out of context.
The fact that he misrepresented data in this way does not help mainstream academia what so ever.
It's called gaslighting. I once watched a Discover Channel doc about a seamingly ancient Chinese/Asian shipwreck off the coast of California. They explained it myst not actually be chinese, because ancient Chinese navigators could not sail the deep oceans, drawing a line straight accross the Pacific as an impossible route, while ignoring the fact you can clearly sail along the coast and islands from China, up to Russia, to Alaska and back down the West Coast.
More backpettling/victimhood from Graham and another masterclass in cherry picking and/or ignoring other research. You proved nothing but your continuing misunderstanding of the field. Bravo you just gave minuteman and Dibble more content.
An interesting watch. I have to say though, and I don't mean to disregard your feelings on the podcast, I disagree. Flint wasn't a better debater. I found him to be childish, dismissive, and at times, downright mocking. He wasn't very well spoken either. Also, as somebody who has for a long time made primitive tools, the confidence with which he wrote off that stone annoyed me. It didn't feel like a debate held in good faith, and with the addition of the attacks made upon your character, I was left with a sour taste in my mouth. I thought this performance spoke volumes about his community, and he did himself and the subject a disservice.
Thank you for all your hard work, diligence and persistence Graham. I wish you could know the positive changes in mindsets and attitudes you inspire, instead of people focusing on people's opposition and ignorance. You are a true scholar and inspiration to the new paradigm emerging. Thank you. 🙏
I was once a big Graham fan until "The Dibble" happened.
Enjoy your content Mr. Hancock. Keep searching for the truth. Not sure why there is a such a push to hide the truth.
It's not about you perform poorly in the debate. It's about FD who act like a superior human being that gets me.
Edit : timestamps
16:57 Slippery FD
21:00 @DeDunking
25:13 so which one is true, FD?
36:08 Shot fired
48:41 Quoted out of context
Happy to see you in a good health. Wishing all the best for you and your family.
Disclaimer : I understand that NOT EVERYTHING that Graham said is true or proven to be true, that's basically how theory works, and I will stand on that hill. However, what he does for the last 30 years is extraordinary, and I agree with @DeDunking, that he inspires more young people to study archaeology. That, is remarkable.
Your OK, Graham. Got them on the run. Love your books. Very mind opening along with the other Mavericks.
😊👍.
He was wearing his Dad's suit, he lost. period
and shirt lol