@MarcusCicero1 You're an exemplary ambassador for the argument you embody. Surely others will see within your choice words the wisdom you wish to impart. Indeed a veritable boon to humanity is given upon your every word. Please continue being an example of how a person should be for this set of ideas.
@@ollaitsrealgood 🤔 If your color blind and think the sky is green then your telling the truth because you think your right and never been corrected? isn't that ignorance then? 🤔
@Exessive-Gaming this is the problem with the subjective "your truth" philosophy pushed by _some_ people. Olla is right, objectively; if we are telling the objective truth, we are right.
@@Umega101 Wasn't it Dibble on Twitter crying for numbers and having a tantrum?🤔 over an actor that Graham probly meet for maybe 15 minutes in the filming of a TV show Grahams in, for a contact number Like Graham knows all that info Dibble is crying about and not the producers. 🤔
@@ste2442 Excellent at what....? At attacking everyone that went to school in areas that Graham acts like an expert in while having no formly education on the matter himself? Oh ok, he is _excellent_ at doing that stuff. Also excellent at convincing a lot of people that what I just said is just fine and should strangely be considered reasonable, and everyone should believe him because *OPINIONS* sound neat... Huh. Sounds like a Snake Oil Salesman to me
What Graham has had to say for multiple decades is interesting 🤔 We've never heard of the other clown. I wouldn't speak to him about anything. You seemed to be being reserved on the Joe show. Which was refreshing when compared to the scum on Australian TV 📺 🤔 The other bloke started off as a nobody and ended the show as a nobody. Your audience is skilled enough to work out who's trying to improve life on a spinning planet and who's just bacteria scum. Years ago when I went to my city, my city had Graham's book 📖 to offer me to read. Like I've said before, there was NO other book from that nobody on the show. Squabble is waste of time and reduces your legacy. Life is way too short for any squabble. Don't waste my time responding to nobodys and going back over stuff that they should have gotten the 1st time listening to you. The nobody looked just like the scum that he is. I moved on. Graham needs to push forward like a meteorite streaking across the sky for all to see and improve all our quick lives. Men are world famous liars. They must face their reputation and deal with it. (That's directed to mister nobody) Anyone who speaks of millions of things, obviously wasn't around a few decades ago. There was only a 1 million dollar man TV 📺 show. There's no ships along the shipwreck coast doing any research into millions more. NO. Clearly a big lie. He's never been to the shipwreck coast. It's still killing people today. It's still smashing ships and boats. When I go to the shipwreck coast, I only sea whales 🐋 and the odd tanker or cruise ship 🚢 I've never seen a research ship. If there was 1, I'm sure it would have handsomely smashed on the rocks 🪨 Shipwreck coasts are impressive. I CHEER when they get another million ships!
Don't worry Graham! As Tesla once said: "The present is theirs; the future, for which i really worked, is mine." Keep up the great work. You're an inspiration to millions!
@@alansokelisatruehero8520 See, the thing with facts is, you can verify them. You should try it. Yes, it's harder then taking someone's lies and fantasy at face value but, in the end you won't look completely moronic and people won't mistake you for an 8 year old.
@@dreadtrain2846 yes. it's a hallmark of satanists to know the difference between nonsense and truth. let's all listen to this charmingly dreadful satan loving fellow
You shouldn’t blame yourself for not having the facts ready for an argument you didn’t know beforehand. You should be proud of yourself for going into the debate with an open mind and not expecting to be lied to. You should be proud that you had no intention to mislead anybody. You seek the truth, not the win. It doesn’t even matter who is right or who is wrong, you gave us proof that you are the better man.
@@steffengylling4924 how is him making personal attacks and broad generalizations about archeology attacking him in a debate about HIS ideas proof he's the better man? If anything this showed the opposite. But Graham junkies will only believe what he wants them to, anything else is a concerted effort by "big archeology" to stop him.
*Graham came to the table ready to talk about what he knew and Dibble had a list of lies he was comfortable promoting on a national level. I know who I believe.
All the iron ships from before the last reset can be found at the top of Noah's tidal wave deluges in Iron ore deposits. "Nothing new under the Sun."Except our position relative the Sun Galaxies ecliptic due to the precession of the equinoxes of Earth Sun orbits between the fermie cells of the Sun Galaxies fermie cells. Leave all the lights on to siphon of Earth's increasing OOrt cloud magnetosphere and convert Earth's increasing electro-magnetism into heat so it will dissipate out into space. Earth's orbits crossing the ecliptic for the next millennium not you or co2 is the cause of these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change end times. Jesus is the Way Truth & Life eternal.
As the late historian, William Irwin Thompson, pointed out years ago, the importance of any new theory can be judged by the ferocity with which it is attacked by the establishment.
He is also famous for saying "the importance of any new airplane design can be judged by the inverse relation with the ferocity with witch the plane hurdles towards the ground" Using other peoples negative reaction as a marker of truth makes any delusional person a prophet.
My theory is that intelligent peanuts used to rule the world and built the pyramids 300,000 years ago. The establishment says it’s not true, therefore it must be true!! 🎉🎉
@@LS-ot6vd Not really... Dibble went into the podcast wanting to show there is no evidence for Hancock's theory, about half way through, Hancock said it himself. So he definitely won and Hancock also admitted he's wrong...? What's left to debate?
@@arak5502yeah his fans will ignore that part though. Constantly taking away to intelligence and know-how from ancient peoples just to suit his story of a white man on a boat showing up to teach them everything.
@@arak5502watch the video (I mean the whole thing, not just random instants of it you happened to click on 😂). He talks about the use of that term quite specifically.
@@tommytwotone81 just say that you have low intellect and can't understand evidence, or the the scientific process. You just believe literal dribble. Low IQ individual.
Very impressed with your speech. Your delivery, calmness, and use of words is amazing. Elegant. It was a pleasure to listen to, as well as very informative. Thank you.
Resorting to calling Graham a racist, white supremacist confirms all you need to know. It's the desperate move of someone who knows they're in the wrong
ESPECIALLY when it's a white dude with long hair lol 😂 flint can't have done ANY research on Graham lol, if he did, he'd have known who his wife and daughter are
We should thank Dribble for encouraging this expertly crafted and extremely thorough follow-up by Graham. I truly appreciate his attention to detail and research involved. Well stated, Mr. Hancock. I'm very much looking forward to hearing more from you in the future.
Mr Hancock, you did well, and you made this topic interesting to others. Your life has truly been an educational service to us all. Love and respect to you forever.
The shipwrecks you are looking for wouldn't be on the continental shelf since the ocean was lower. The shipwrecks you are looking for would be in extremely deep water.
This Graham Hancock official channel should be demonetised. Grayham Hancock does not add anything to the cool clean pool of human knowledge from which I like to drink. Graham Hancock is one who squats beside the pure pool of human knowledge and defecates into it. He is a charlatan and a fraud. A pseudo-historian. A writer of pseudo-scientific colley-wobble and woo woo which can be described as intellectual faeces. It is compiled into books, published and read by ignorant and gullible people.
- He guys, there's a blood sucking monster in the room. - I can't see any bloodsucking monster. - You haven't looked hard enough. - [rummages everywhere, lifting furniture] No, can't see any monster. - It's because it can turn invisible. - [Gets IR goggles] Nope, still can't see it. - It can fit between the floor cracks! - Err... what makes you believe there's a blood sucking monster anyway? - I've read about it in a Greek philosophy text written 2500 years ago. - And you believe that? - well, I got bite marks. - Looks like mosquito bites. There a mosquito here. - YOU'RE JUST SILENCING ME!!! That's the "debate" in a nutshell.
The problem isn't just shipwrecks it's everything. Not a single piece of evidence, absolutely nothing supports Hancock's theory. An advanced global civilisation that existed in the last 20000 years and we have absolutely no evidence of them. Yet we can trace the origins of life back hundreds of millions of years
Graham, you should definitely do more videos like this by yourself! I think it would be great to watch/listen to videos on specific topics in this format
Please tell me when he actually gives some evidence except proposals, feelings, theories etc. Ill wait, probably cant wait so long though. His legacy will be Anti-intellectualism and grifting.
@@CaptCKernel lol its not a discussion when one side argues to win and lies constantly and plays victims on twitter how "they are calling me a weasel" after lying multiple times and acting like an actual weasel
@@Thenexusuk1 Why would Graham stop talking about *THE* place to be looking at? I get what you mean I think, sometimes what happens is Graham will talk about the same subject because hes doing talks, then a JRE podcast or other interviews, and then theres even his show on netflix. Grahams never had this much capacity to talk about his lifes work so he has to speak directly to people who dont know him at all. Gobekl Tepe is barely excavated, all we are going to get for the next 50 years is new things, neew discoveries, and new theories.
@@Thenexusuk1 Okay so then why dont you go down there and excavate everything if "new" is all that matters? Its been new discoveries all over my entire life. Our understanding of lost ancient peoples, has completely changed in 30 years. If all thats needed is 100% concrete data, digging up Gobekli Tepe, is not going to give you answers. If anything, it might make things even more complicated. Someone has to crack the code, like a cipher, Graham is a journalist, hes looking at things, coming to conclusions, and asking questions. You misunderstand what Graham is doing.
@@Ryan-on9ne‘follow the money’ refers directly to who’s pocket the recipient is in. Self funded research can only be preferable to funding from politically or ideologically motivated backers.
@Ryan-on9ne Dibble is in Big Academia and Archeology's pocket. That's who he speaks for. Graham funds himself anyway he can to spread the truth about our missing history. We have been and are actively being misled, redirected, distracted or shamed for searching for the truth. We are gaslit and blatantly lied to because they want no one else to know the secrets of our ancestry. Ask why? Because it obviously is beneficial to them selling lies to the curious people of the world and not shown our true potential as human beings. It really is quite maddening we live in this world with all this bullshit going on, I swear 😮💨
Lying is something common these days by those on the left, they aim to obliterate truth and history…. I think their common sense is removed by brainwashing…. Seriously they don’t believe their own eyes and ears, what to do!
I remember during the debate when Dibble said that “actually shipwrecks are usually perfectly preserved underwater” and it sounded like complete bs to me
Many underwater sites are low oxygen, which reduces the rate of decomposition, just like bog bodies and tar pit finds. Most of the Native American dugout canoes were found underwater and they are thousands of years old. So, yes, they do last longer. A simple google search would be pretty easy too.
Depends on the environment, if a under water mud slide covered the titanic rendering if from any oxygen exposure it would be preserved for a very long time.
Right? What a fully ridiculous talking point. Unless folks 10,000 years ago were floating around on stone ships, the likelyhood of any other materials surviving ocean action that long… and Dribble calls himself a person of science, laughable 🐃💩
@@DespaceMan another point, the fossils we have seen are a tiny slither of the prehistoric animal pie. And some animals don't fossilize, like jellyfish.
@@jeninlight exactly, very little survives time. A bridge has been found inside a cave on a Mediterranean island and has rocked scientists... it was unusually protected.
This is why everyone should familiarize themselves with what the logical fallacies are & how they are used. Knowing what the appeal to authority fallacy is or knowing the phrase "Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence" for example are 2 things that are of great help when dealing with academia.
People just need to use their b******* detector. You can tell this guy was full of it because he just totally dismissed any evidence that contradicted his opinion. When you run out of questions you're fuct as a scientist.
He’s been researching this topic for decades he should have been up to scratch with the shipwreck lie because dibble clearly lied but made Graham look like a fraud
Soooo, I assume that in this video, Hancock will show evidence of a site with advanced technology that can not be placed anywhere in the historical timeline, with agriculture and metal that can be dates to the ice age
@@barebasics Well to be fair, he can't know everything on every subject. If Dibble also made up that mice in Indonesia prove Hancock wrong, not sure what he may have answered to show he's lying again. That's why this kind of live debate is less interesting than video responses for instance, but more entertaining I guess. A dishonest person will always win.
Humbly, the "3 million shipwrecks" stat dibble provided was an immediate red flag. that number is simply impossible. *** i do not have a dog in the fight. i am only a conscientious observer, commenting on the implausibility of the "3million" claim.
It's about as impossible as the stat that another one of Joe's interviewees dropped on us. The one that if you removed the gun deaths from our top ten cities the n the US would drop from first to like 150th in the world. That is so insanely dumb. If you removed the gun deaths from our top 100 cities, we'd drop from 1st to 1st, maybe 2nd in the world. I'm not going to look up the stats right now, but I know once you get past the 100th country in number of gun deaths, you are in single digit territory. As in the 100th country has like 8 gun deaths a year. It was such an absurd statement, yet Joe send to eat it up & I've heard it repeated since. It's utterly absurd, just as this Flint Dibble character is a fraud.
Flint himself has said that the 3 million number was a mistake. He was referring to an article that said 300000 wrecks and the 3 million number was an estimate in the article. He acknowledged this mistake long ago.
@@Eyes_Open Imagine taken an article out of context to prove a point and do little to no research on said article then apologize later for your lack of knowledge.🤔
@@Eyes_Open Yeah but... Many of us, who watched the "debate" had only Dr Dibble's appeal to authority to go by. Acknowledgement after the fact is not good enough, although it may be laudable. Basically, if he was mistaken about that "Fact" (actually an estimate), then what else might he be mistaken about? The debate continues...
everyone was already on your side! no need to defend yourself. much love, keep pressing. YOUR work is invaluable. That was a clown show in the front of a MASTER
Dude! Flint won the debate in the subjects where Hancock was supposed to be an expert. Why didn’t bring enough evidence. Even Joe Rogan who is an admirer of Hancock seems to understand that what Hancock says might sound tantalizing but not facts.
Mr Hancock, Rogan's debate was fascinating and painful to say the least. This is an impressive comeback, although I feel your pain and it saddens me. You should be proud of your endeavours indeed. Thanks for your eloquence and terrific work.😊
This type of character cancellation is a problem. The Gnostic Informant and the Mythism Channel both tried to cancel Dr Robert Price (and myself to a degree) using the same underhand technique. They called Dr Price a rayycist, transphobe, misogynist and white suprem..….. You know the drill. Anything to besmirch a character, and destroy his career - which they achieved to a degree - reducing his viewership by a large margin. But anyone who has followed Dr Price, will know him as a mild mannered and viewed huggy-bear. It should not be a crime within academia, to be a Republican - which is what most of this attack this was all about. Ralph Ellis
@@RalphEllis Using the progressive leftist definitions of racism and white supremacy, there is actually nothing immoral about either of those. To translate into normal person English, when they call a white person racist, it just means they don't hate white people or want to erase them. When they call you a white supremacist, it means that you love your family.
You didn't do that badly in the debate Mr Hancock, you were up against lies so how are you meant to fight against that. You are a beacon for people like me so thank you. Keep it up.
@@onapermohow bout his claim that there is a concerted effort by "big archeology" against him? Thats clearly a lie and Graham trying to play victim to gain sympathy.
I'm so glad someone else noticed this. It felt so funny considering the dude looked like he was wearing an oversized suit that he bought of the rack at a Goodwill.
You have never claimed to be something you’re not. The work you do is important and I would love to see a day where everyone works together to find the truth. Simply watching one of your very early videos made me question what we are taught and isn’t that a good thing? This video really hits the mark, thank you for taking the time to present.
@@Pawsk completely agree, I’m a science person and glad you agree. The megaliths around the world alone is science enough for me that there was different technologies used that we somehow forgot
@@theciav well that is just dumb. We have demonstrated so many times that these kinds of constructions can be done fairly easily with very primitive tools. So very clearly its not evidence of forgotten technology. If we couldn’t figure out how to build these structures with primitive tools then, you would have an argument. In this case you dont. Not only do we know how it could be done, we have several different ways in which it could have been done. And we even have reconstructions of it in several cases. Fascinating, impressive but not mysterious.
Hmmm......,ive been a fan of yours since fingerprints of the gods,spoke to you briefly in 1997,so impressed, your persistent and dedicated research has embarrassed and exposed so many fallacies in the official narrative for all these years, the spite you received for ancient apocalypse indicates how deep you have wounded traditional dogma,you arent the first man to underestimate a protagonist and you wont be the last,its how you deal and respond to their arguments and dismissals, and once again, so on the money,your depth of research and still obvious passion after a lifetime is formidable,i knew when i saw you years ago you were the real deal,greatest respect,thankyou for feeding my curiosity and wonder
Hey Graham, just wanna say I love you man. Youve inspired me so much and opened my mind to things I'd never even considered the first time I listened to you many years ago. I know the criticism must be hard, but please stay strong! You're the best!
You,Mr.Hancock, are somebody I would listen to all day every day, because you have open mind. People like Flint,on the other hand,who think that they already found and explained everything are so boring,that nobody pays any attention to their work. Keep the great work,Mr Hanckock,you are the true scientist of our time,history will remember you,not Mr Doodle!
I felt your comment. I got lots of hours of enjoyment from grahams audio books his voice and dementia flawless . Highly recommend return of the plumed serpent . A great listen
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa410 what part of his lies about ice cores not showing any lead and his lies about shipwrecks were scientific...? And please do tell me where his racist accusations had any science in them .. A recurcher with a good theory is worth 10 archaeologists who lie or mislead ... I don't know why I tell you this cause you don't have an open mind. I fear that if you were born when the earth was the center of the universe you would say the same thing and be as wrong then . I'm not saying grahams idea is right just that archeology can't explane what some of the evidence shows so we need others to therorise and thay should not face a smear campaign for that if what they say ,if it is wrong then use evidence to show that even better go out look at what graham looks at find answers on these questions people want to know Also just remember flint is a expert in bones not lost civilisations... Graham has studied lost civilisations for 30+ years so as close to expert as you can get ...
@@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa410 crazy how so many ppl think that you have to give credit to every lunacy or you are not being open minded. The future is very dark.
I don't agree. There's nothing "savage" about Graham at all. If someone tells you bullshit but you don't have the facts in front of you this is exactly what to do. This way you educate properly vs trying to be smarter than your capabilities such as this dribbled ass Graham debated. Wasted his time. But I am glad he did this video so that the ignorant may receive real knowledge
If you really believe that I am certain you will fail your PhD - read the papers Hancock cites and you will see that they say the direct opposite to what he claims! He has no evidence to prove Dibble wrong, other than the mistake Dibble agrees he made about 3 million vs 300,000 boats. Failing to read the papers is extremely poor
@@alonsogu3562 Flint academic learning is in agriculture and even then he has been told his theories are wrong by scientist who research agriculture by scientist's who Flints theories rely on for evidence, so remind me again why we would care about some D minus academic telling us outside of his education why we should listen to him?🤔
Real facts delivered with class and style. Keep up the great work, Graham... There will always be a Flint dibble out there somewhere, but there will also always be those of us to see and hear what you are actually doing. And we appreciate it
I was dissapointed in your performance. You made it wayyy too personal and didn’t provide evidence like you have in the past. This is awesome that you’re owning it
@@mf8279because that’s not the goal of the video. He is simply checking the “facts” that Flint used in their debate. Which I’m sure you can agree we’re not facts and simply what ever information he could find in order to convince people of his claim.
@@mf8279 Graham never claims anything to be fact. He says certain things need investigating for specific reasons. Many of which are compelling reasons. But Archiologists refuse to even discuss it and now even lie to avoid investigating them.
@@nmtumbleweed5320 I am not sure how you missed it. He makes it quite clear himself when he says that archaeology has thus far found zero evidence to support his ideas.
@@CuriosityQuery Has nothing to do with sympathy Ppl want to know our origins and mainstream anything is bunch of nonsense Graham is one of many pioneers who have put forth undeniable evidence that what we are told is clearly a bunch of crap And human history is much more interesting than we thought It’s anything but a straight line progression Advanced technology was here in ancient times Just in the last 2-3,000 years we went through hills and troughs of our understanding Greeks, Romans, Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Sumerians etc all these ancient ppl were much more advanced than we were in the 1700s Ppl from 2-3,000 years ago were more advanced than ppl were just few hundred years ago
@@anthonyurso3554 Agreed. Human history is very interesting and there 's so much to unpack. But I would leave it to the experts who have earned their place in uncovering history because its what they do. Graham has a narrative that he's been cradling for years. He's not an archeologist or an expert yet people side on him because its a marvelous claim and very enticing. But this is all he has, he does not educate anyone like scholars and academics instead he entertains everyone with amazingly produced shows and published books to gain money.
Dibble won't have the courage to do round 2. If he does, I suggest Rogan forces Dibble to address each lie first before proceeding with more of the same.
@@kevensummers5353 What evidence could he present? He has presented his theories, he's done the legwork and more importantly he has used his common sense and skills as a journalist (A real one, not a modern-day "journalist") to create and present a theory. Nothing about it is impossible, and a lot of it makes sense. But it was a long time ago, anything physical is likely long gone. So again, what evidence can he present that Academia would even look at, let alone accept?
It's racist to presume ancient, so called primitive, races were not capable of their achievements. Ancient people did those things on their own. They didn't have lost advanced white races or aliens to enable them. Graham is a total hack and the only reason Joe continues to back him is out of his misplaced childish mafioso sense of loyalty.
I didn't know that he had issues with documenting evidence? Have you read his books? They're loaded with footnotes backing his assertions. Read his work before making blind criticisms. It shows how unfamiliar you are with Hancock. Seems like you're looking to get some anger out with little much else. Good luck to you. Be well.
You have our support Graham. I am currently reading a book on Genetics, DNA and Human Origins from David Reich, it is peppered with how Geneticists are being lambasted by 'Archeologist' as DNA science now puts into question the 'established' migration and interbreeding of humans as determined by language and culture. The author David Reich reports being sharply challenged in similar manner and fury when proposing that the genetic 'evidence' counters their 'theories' about human migration.
This is nothing new. Since the mid 90s genetic study has completely disproven the archeological perspective on the peopling of the americans and pacific islands. Its only within the last couple years that you see the archeologists adapting and accepting the science.
great Graham! keep at it, I find your work fascinating, not only the subject matter itself, but bringing light to how "science" in the end can be very human and not scientific at all. the free debate and discussion of the internet brings a lot more brilliant minds to subjects they wouldn't ordinarily been able to connect with each other, this should be embraced as a way to get us to real answers faster, rather than those elite that feel threatened that they might be left behind.
@@Phoenixx.1999 the fact Joe hasn’t uttered one word about an edited version of this podcast, shared across multiple social media platforms, is misrepresentation what was said to the point it’s FALSE! so yeah, F Joe. That HE himself does not have enough integrity to point this bs out. smh NOPE, HE, Joe Rogan, is then a part of the major problem we have trying to tell truths etc. COME ON PEOPLE. where is everyone’s integrity?
@@BLG80 since you are clearly the smartest of the bunch please share with the class. What are your arguments for there being absolutely no advanced pre-history civilization?
@@RyJo. Because a claim requires substantiation, it requires evidence. and even by Hancock's own admission what we have uncovered it is not evidence of this advanced civilization. I believed this once until I studied the philosophy of Plato and saw hancocks tricks in using Plato as evidence. when you know what to look for, he is simply duping people who have never studied any of the areas he touches on and makes it sound plausible, your imagination and wonder do the rest so he doesn't need to prove a thing to get people to believe him.
We love and appreciate you Gram ( please note when I buy my hair die in 2025) the color is still written as black/ negro ( Spanish for black) soooooooooo idk just saying don’t apologize for a 30 yr old book we love and take value in! You did great on Rogan and no one took stock in dribbles Drabble 😂
I’m not sure if this message will reach you, Graham, but I want you to know that I deeply respect your work. I studied geography and have a strong background in anthropology and geology. The questions you raise, the ideas you explore, and the points you emphasize touch on areas that are far from being fully understood or resolved. It’s through asking questions that science advances. Reflecting and challenging mainstream academia is at the heart of true scholarship. Critical thinking and rational inquiry, much like Alfred Wegener's theory of plate tectonics-sadly only accepted after his death-are what push knowledge forward. Your ideas aren’t harmful; rather, they expose one of the greatest gaps in understanding, free from villains but shaped by ignorance of the unknown. Keep going-you have far more supporters than you might realize. Thank you, Graham and best greetings from Germany!
Well done Graham, These pompous KnowItAll's need a good dose of humility. We must realize what we don't know is vastly more voluminous of what we know.
It's called gaslighting. I once watched a Discover Channel doc about a seamingly ancient Chinese/Asian shipwreck off the coast of California. They explained it must not actually be chinese, because ancient Chinese navigators could not sail the deep oceans, drawing a line straight accross the Pacific as an impossible route, while ignoring the fact you can clearly sail along the coast and islands from China, up to Russia, to Alaska and back down the West Coast.
@@mcdart2606 I was trying to highlight how humble he is but yes either of those will work too. I appreciate the feedback from folks to help me improve my communication skills.
@@mcdart2606 I was trying to highlight how humble he is but yes either of those would work. I appreciate the feedback from folks to help me improve my communication skills.
Using small, rudimentary boats cannot compare to what a worldwide civilization would look like. I really don't understand how someone could push for a theory they don't have a single proof.
Can you explain your comment? We don't have even small boats from the Ice Age even though we know human beings were navigating during that time through other evidence.
@AbeAlJ right, i guess that even the oldest canoes we found were a bit after. But that's a critical point: we dont have any evidence of a worldwide civilization that travelled from america to the estern mediterranean. His theory is based on nothing. The mistake about shipwreck sites number by fink doesnt change that.
Hancock has lots of suggestive evidence to support his hypothesis. He doesn't have proof, because if he did, it would be a fact and not a hypothesis. There's nothing wrong with that. All you need to warrant an investigation is enough evidence to make it a worthwhile investment, given the likelihood of finding something and the magnitude of the prospective discovery. Archaeological digs are routinely done on far less.
@@AndreaFasani Yeah there is other evidence, just not canoes. But the reason why not having canoes doesn't matter is because we don't have any kind of shipwrecks from 50,000 years ago, for example, even though we know people were using boats at least since that time. One of the important pieces of evidence is that major archealogical sites align with astronomical phenomenon from ~10,000 BC. This means the sites were built at that time and people had advanced knowledge of astronomy and building technology before then. Therefore, there was an ice-age civilization.
Wow! Mr. Graham! I am so so so glad to see you upload new official video. Hope you could attend more shows like Joe Rogan shows and discuss with varieties of professional regarding the lost ancient civilization topics.
I have to say, Kevin, that I disagree. Platforms like JRE are _entertainment_ - right from the host's calibre to the format of the show to the reasons people watch them. Quick-paced "debates" are not a means for finding the "truth" precisely because, as we see, it's very easy to game them the way that Flint did it. It's more a puerile popularity contest than anything. Don't get me wrong, I've watched quite a bit of JRE in my time. There are topics that I come to know about from shows like this that I can then dig into elsewhere in more serious formats. So it's really good in that regard. And the other thing, of course, is the user base being so large. So if anything, I'd encourage Graham to go on there just to talk about his work 1-1 with Joe and to get a chance to introduce his ideas to a broader audience.
The debate is making everyone look into it more deeply, which makes it a success.
Yup 😊😊😊
Truth
Everyone? It looks like some people are focused on calling others names, and spreading falsehoods.
Certainly exposing Hancock's uneducated nonsense
@MarcusCicero1 You're an exemplary ambassador for the argument you embody. Surely others will see within your choice words the wisdom you wish to impart. Indeed a veritable boon to humanity is given upon your every word. Please continue being an example of how a person should be for this set of ideas.
This is the most polite diss track I've seen dropped
Politely wrong is still wrong.
@@XUNsc Quite nicely English
That was a dope ass comment!
@@williamverhoef4349 tf you mean?
😂😂 on another note the world can’t be but less than 7k years old
Some of us are concerned with being right and some of us are concerned with the truth.
This is the dumbest thing I've read all day. Being right means telling the truth.
@@ollaitsrealgood 🤔
If your color blind and think the sky is green then your telling the truth because you think your right and never been corrected? isn't that ignorance then? 🤔
Graham is concerned with neither. He backpettled all the way back to "I'm just asking questions". That says a lot about someone.
@Exessive-Gaming this is the problem with the subjective "your truth" philosophy pushed by _some_ people. Olla is right, objectively; if we are telling the objective truth, we are right.
@@donnmckee4973 care to explain what, exactly, asking questions says about someone and why it's a problem.
Flint needs an archeological team to find his arms in those sleeves
All time best Joe Rogan Experience comment “ Jamie can you pull up Flint Dibbles sleeves ? “
Was gona say the same. Unforgettable. I find myself saying it to myself in my head throughout the day and laughing.
RIGHT😅😂,, those roll up, also,,
And remove his hat! It's extremely ill mannered to wear a hat indoors
@@hannahtattoo use to be 🤠😁
i'll get a quarter pound of flint dibble plz
Welcome back Mr Hancock. 👍🏻
He's sales must be down, has to play another _victim card_ to boost his sales
@@Umega101 I think he’s excellent and thought provoking. What don’t you like him ?
@@Umega101 Wasn't it Dibble on Twitter crying for numbers and having a tantrum?🤔 over an actor that Graham probly meet for maybe 15 minutes in the filming of a TV show Grahams in, for a contact number Like Graham knows all that info Dibble is crying about and not the producers. 🤔
Archaeology has always carried the stigma that it is not a science but rather a study of perspective, often with personal ideals.
@@ste2442 Excellent at what....? At attacking everyone that went to school in areas that Graham acts like an expert in while having no formly education on the matter himself? Oh ok, he is _excellent_ at doing that stuff. Also excellent at convincing a lot of people that what I just said is just fine and should strangely be considered reasonable, and everyone should believe him because *OPINIONS* sound neat... Huh.
Sounds like a Snake Oil Salesman to me
Take note kids, this is how a grownup disagrees with someone.
Well done sir.
He thought the earth wasn’t flat because a ship went over the horizon beyond human vision 😆
Don't fill the western world full of ego lead swarthy mind set feature just sampling western values an your comment would be void
What Graham has had to say for multiple decades is interesting 🤔
We've never heard of the other clown.
I wouldn't speak to him about anything.
You seemed to be being reserved on the Joe show.
Which was refreshing when compared to the scum on Australian TV 📺 🤔
The other bloke started off as a nobody and ended the show as a nobody.
Your audience is skilled enough to work out who's trying to improve life on a spinning planet and who's just bacteria scum.
Years ago when I went to my city, my city had Graham's book 📖 to offer me to read.
Like I've said before, there was NO other book from that nobody on the show.
Squabble is waste of time and reduces your legacy.
Life is way too short for any squabble.
Don't waste my time responding to nobodys and going back over stuff that they should have gotten the 1st time listening to you.
The nobody looked just like the scum that he is.
I moved on.
Graham needs to push forward like a meteorite streaking across the sky for all to see and improve all our quick lives.
Men are world famous liars.
They must face their reputation and deal with it. (That's directed to mister nobody)
Anyone who speaks of millions of things, obviously wasn't around a few decades ago.
There was only a 1 million dollar man TV 📺 show.
There's no ships along the shipwreck coast doing any research into millions more.
NO.
Clearly a big lie.
He's never been to the shipwreck coast.
It's still killing people today.
It's still smashing ships and boats.
When I go to the shipwreck coast, I only sea whales 🐋 and the odd tanker or cruise ship 🚢
I've never seen a research ship.
If there was 1, I'm sure it would have handsomely smashed on the rocks 🪨
Shipwreck coasts are impressive.
I CHEER when they get another million ships!
You mean crying to Joey about it?
What on earth does that have to do with the original comment?
they cant hide the Truth forever..keep going...
Who are "they"?
get your tin foil hats out!
Don't worry Graham! As Tesla once said: "The present is theirs; the future, for which i really worked, is mine."
Keep up the great work. You're an inspiration to millions!
He a cool dude
and looking in the Amazonas for a lost cavillation is a smart idea...
Thanks a lot for your work, please go on
Feel Graham is an Edison fellow, judging from his character.
you can't even capitalize the correct words. That about sums up all Hancock followers.
The positive takeaway from this debate is that both Hancock and the rest of us are now more informed on some of these topics. Thank you!
Graham didn't learn anything, he'll continue peddling his nonsense.
for some reason this triggers the heck out of dibble and his simps though which are quite passionate about group think but to each their own i guess
@@alansokelisatruehero8520 See, the thing with facts is, you can verify them. You should try it. Yes, it's harder then taking someone's lies and fantasy at face value but, in the end you won't look completely moronic and people won't mistake you for an 8 year old.
@@dreadtrain2846 Explain what's wrong.
@@dreadtrain2846 yes. it's a hallmark of satanists to know the difference between nonsense and truth. let's all listen to this charmingly dreadful satan loving fellow
You shouldn’t blame yourself for not having the facts ready for an argument you didn’t know beforehand.
You should be proud of yourself for going into the debate with an open mind and not expecting to be lied to.
You should be proud that you had no intention to mislead anybody.
You seek the truth, not the win.
It doesn’t even matter who is right or who is wrong, you gave us proof that you are the better man.
He should blame himself for lies he made.
Why not?
@@michalsmolka8772 are you stupid?
@@steffengylling4924 how is him making personal attacks and broad generalizations about archeology attacking him in a debate about HIS ideas proof he's the better man? If anything this showed the opposite. But Graham junkies will only believe what he wants them to, anything else is a concerted effort by "big archeology" to stop him.
*Graham came to the table ready to talk about what he knew and Dibble had a list of lies he was comfortable promoting on a national level. I know who I believe.
@@donnmckee4973Are you on drugs?
Dibble started off that interview hot and heavy and was ready for a fight. Thank You Graham for putting this out and being a true gentleman.
Yeah he came for glory and won it with lies and slander. Empty win.. he will one day eat that awful hat.
Graham, you have been doing well for us for decades. Thank you for all the hard work and for making us think outside the box.
He's done nothing but lead people astray and make them look like idiots when they repeat his stupidity. You should not thank scammers.
@@dreadtrain2846 I wonder who pays you...
@@ferencjozsef4479 Your brain isn't broken at all.
Yesss bro😉👍😉@@ferencjozsef4479
@@dreadtrain2846 "dreadtrain" is yet another NPC defending the approved narrative.
Even the titanic is nearly gone just 100 years ago
U mean the o Olympic
All the iron ships from before the last reset can be found at the top of Noah's tidal wave deluges in Iron ore deposits. "Nothing new under the Sun."Except our position relative the Sun Galaxies ecliptic due to the precession of the equinoxes of Earth Sun orbits between the fermie cells of the Sun Galaxies fermie cells.
Leave all the lights on to siphon of Earth's increasing OOrt cloud magnetosphere and convert Earth's increasing electro-magnetism into heat so it will dissipate out into space.
Earth's orbits crossing the ecliptic for the next millennium not you or co2 is the cause of these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change end times.
Jesus is the Way Truth & Life eternal.
There was an explanation in discussion that wood can survive deep in the water for many years.
@@pio7763oh yes such truth
yet we still have nemi ships from the 1st century... Almost like different areas and materials degrade based on many factors...
As the late historian, William Irwin Thompson, pointed out years ago, the importance of any new theory can be judged by the ferocity with which it is attacked by the establishment.
A theory needs verifiable evidence..what Hancock is doing is nonsensical fantasy
Now apply that same concept to other things that have happened in the world "recently".
He is also famous for saying "the importance of any new airplane design can be judged by the inverse relation with the ferocity with witch the plane hurdles towards the ground"
Using other peoples negative reaction as a marker of truth makes any delusional person a prophet.
My theory is that intelligent peanuts used to rule the world and built the pyramids 300,000 years ago. The establishment says it’s not true, therefore it must be true!! 🎉🎉
@@rufioswitch2132 Or it could be that u r a twohat... just a thought...
A wise man once said, "Just because you won the argument doesn't mean you were right."
Graham lost AND he is wrong, so yeh. There's that.
@@SueMyChin well, that's open to debate.
@@LS-ot6vd Not really... Dibble went into the podcast wanting to show there is no evidence for Hancock's theory, about half way through, Hancock said it himself. So he definitely won and Hancock also admitted he's wrong...? What's left to debate?
@@SueMyChin You know, there is a significant difference between evidence and proof. Archaeologists seldom prove anything.
@SueMyChin most of the time, all archaeologists really have is theory. Also, if you watch this video, you'll see just how misleading dibble was.
“The flak only gets heavy... when you’re over the target.”
Alex Jones
@@ralboraggins9564 Great point well made. Jones shows exactly who Graham could be if he was an arse too.
No apologies needed G! We're all very aware of your integrity and moral standpoint. You stand above most in this field and always will.
Wait, did Hancock really just use the term negro features when talking about Olmec heads?????
What field? Cos it certainly isn't archaeology
did Hancock really just use the term negro features when talking about Olmec heads?
@@arak5502yeah his fans will ignore that part though. Constantly taking away to intelligence and know-how from ancient peoples just to suit his story of a white man on a boat showing up to teach them everything.
@@arak5502watch the video (I mean the whole thing, not just random instants of it you happened to click on 😂). He talks about the use of that term quite specifically.
Im very pleased to hear this piece from you Graham and that you have taken the time to delve into these arguments so astutely
That is what he does! That is what makes him the man that we believe unlike dribble or dribble or whatever the hell his name is hahaha.
@@tommytwotone81 just say that you have low intellect and can't understand evidence, or the the scientific process. You just believe literal dribble. Low IQ individual.
Very impressed with your speech. Your delivery, calmness, and use of words is amazing. Elegant. It was a pleasure to listen to, as well as very informative. Thank you.
The fact that an archeologist chose to ignore facts and even fabricate stuff just in order to "win" a debate tells you all you need to know.
This.
Yup. Even some scientists are ego driven.
Racism is Anthropology, not Archaeology,, he wants to sound like a Authority on Both. 😊
FAILED the critical thinking test😊
Resorting to calling Graham a racist, white supremacist confirms all you need to know. It's the desperate move of someone who knows they're in the wrong
All while desecrating his father's memory and clothes
Whenever someone invokes the racism line I immediately dismissed them as a hoax
the guy votes Democrat 100%
Makes it easier to ignore actual racism.
@@bydacoolaand?
ESPECIALLY when it's a white dude with long hair lol 😂 flint can't have done ANY research on Graham lol, if he did, he'd have known who his wife and daughter are
@@tobyreed529that comment was a bit racist
We should thank Dribble for encouraging this expertly crafted and extremely thorough follow-up by Graham. I truly appreciate his attention to detail and research involved. Well stated, Mr. Hancock. I'm very much looking forward to hearing more from you in the future.
Feel free to get off your knees
So, the guy won a debate by.. «I can’t prove it, so I win!» ? .. My 4 year old have these wins sometimes..
What detail ? What research? Do you realise there is not one piece of evidence that supports Hancock's theory ?
@@ysteinberg5084lol
@@MarcusCicero1 You didn't watch it, so don't comment on it.
Mr Hancock, you did well, and you made this topic interesting to others. Your life has truly been an educational service to us all. Love and respect to you forever.
The shipwrecks you are looking for wouldn't be on the continental shelf since the ocean was lower. The shipwrecks you are looking for would be in extremely deep water.
and completely buried by sediment.
@Js-rq9uj Don't you dare bring logic and common sense into this!!
This Graham Hancock official channel should be demonetised. Grayham Hancock does not add anything to the cool clean pool of human knowledge from which I like to drink. Graham Hancock is one who squats beside the pure pool of human knowledge and defecates into it. He is a charlatan and a fraud. A pseudo-historian. A writer of pseudo-scientific colley-wobble and woo woo which can be described as intellectual faeces. It is compiled into books, published and read by ignorant and gullible people.
- He guys, there's a blood sucking monster in the room.
- I can't see any bloodsucking monster.
- You haven't looked hard enough.
- [rummages everywhere, lifting furniture] No, can't see any monster.
- It's because it can turn invisible.
- [Gets IR goggles] Nope, still can't see it.
- It can fit between the floor cracks!
- Err... what makes you believe there's a blood sucking monster anyway?
- I've read about it in a Greek philosophy text written 2500 years ago.
- And you believe that?
- well, I got bite marks.
- Looks like mosquito bites. There a mosquito here.
- YOU'RE JUST SILENCING ME!!!
That's the "debate" in a nutshell.
The problem isn't just shipwrecks it's everything. Not a single piece of evidence, absolutely nothing supports Hancock's theory. An advanced global civilisation that existed in the last 20000 years and we have absolutely no evidence of them. Yet we can trace the origins of life back hundreds of millions of years
Graham, you should definitely do more videos like this by yourself! I think it would be great to watch/listen to videos on specific topics in this format
agreed
I agree.
so you would prefer an echo-chamber to a discussion?
Please tell me when he actually gives some evidence except proposals, feelings, theories etc. Ill wait, probably cant wait so long though.
His legacy will be Anti-intellectualism and grifting.
@@CaptCKernel lol its not a discussion when one side argues to win and lies constantly and plays victims on twitter how "they are calling me a weasel" after lying multiple times and acting like an actual weasel
Graham
You’re one of my favorite people on Joe Rogan
I love your work
Figures.
Wait, did Hancock really just use the term negro features when talking about Olmec heads?????
What work?
And we will answer the call!
You do realise that TH-cam comments has an edit option to correct one's mistakes. Don't you?
Absolutely amazing, classy and definitive smack down... Brilliantly well done.
Please do more videos, Graham. I enjoy your work.
would be good .but plz no more in gobekletepi tho ..something new
@@Thenexusuk1 Why would Graham stop talking about *THE* place to be looking at?
I get what you mean I think, sometimes what happens is Graham will talk about the same subject because hes doing talks, then a JRE podcast or other interviews, and then theres even his show on netflix. Grahams never had this much capacity to talk about his lifes work so he has to speak directly to people who dont know him at all.
Gobekl Tepe is barely excavated, all we are going to get for the next 50 years is new things, neew discoveries, and new theories.
@@g.r.o.g.u.1892 he wouldn't but he has started repeating himself... New data is needed
@@Thenexusuk1 Okay so then why dont you go down there and excavate everything if "new" is all that matters? Its been new discoveries all over my entire life. Our understanding of lost ancient peoples, has completely changed in 30 years.
If all thats needed is 100% concrete data, digging up Gobekli Tepe, is not going to give you answers. If anything, it might make things even more complicated.
Someone has to crack the code, like a cipher, Graham is a journalist, hes looking at things, coming to conclusions, and asking questions. You misunderstand what Graham is doing.
@@Thenexusuk1 Bet. Go do it. Go make those discoveries.
Unless maybe its much more complex than how you portray it.
This is a wonderful video, Graham. Please stay in good health and continue your great work. Blessings to you and yours.
Cheers Graham! Super excited for next Wednesday and the premiere of Ancient Apocalypse Season 2!! Super Stoked!!!
Me too
Don't you guys always say follow the money? Who is cashing in here? Who do you think makes more money, Flint or Graham?
@@Ryan-on9ne‘follow the money’ refers directly to who’s pocket the recipient is in. Self funded research can only be preferable to funding from politically or ideologically motivated backers.
there is a season 2?. i guess i watch too little netflix.. i had no clue
@Ryan-on9ne Dibble is in Big Academia and Archeology's pocket. That's who he speaks for. Graham funds himself anyway he can to spread the truth about our missing history. We have been and are actively being misled, redirected, distracted or shamed for searching for the truth. We are gaslit and blatantly lied to because they want no one else to know the secrets of our ancestry. Ask why? Because it obviously is beneficial to them selling lies to the curious people of the world and not shown our true potential as human beings. It really is quite maddening we live in this world with all this bullshit going on, I swear 😮💨
Extremely well argued and presented, Graham. Well done!
Thanks Graham. Your work is immensely appreciated.
@@spacenut58 yes his ability to travel and sell fake stories is extraordinary
Inventing nonsense to sell books is not appreciated
SO SPACE IS A CARTOON.
They have been lying for so long it's become a fine art...
They want us to live in their reality their truth not the truth
How ironic.
How much will you get if i pin you?
I can see you under all comments here. Paid bot, or Will-be paid?? @@Eyes_Open
Lying is something common these days by those on the left, they aim to obliterate truth and history…. I think their common sense is removed by brainwashing…. Seriously they don’t believe their own eyes and ears, what to do!
Not all. Some are just stupid and can't see it. But yes there must be liars there too.
This provides overwhelming evidence that we NEED Graham back on JRE
Ask and you shall receive
Hahah yes! 😂
Yes!! Him and Carlson, for sure
He was just on
But only him, right? You don't need any more peope to discredit his unsubstantiated sensationalist bollocks?
Keep fighting the good fight, Graham. I love your books and your integrity.
Graham is a gentleman and a scholar. Always presents himself and research with such class. Love his work
'research', other than that I agree
i totally agree with that statement
the only downside is that it's all made up nonsense.
I remember during the debate when Dibble said that “actually shipwrecks are usually perfectly preserved underwater” and it sounded like complete bs to me
Ever seen the titanic wreck?ever done any actual research on how shipwrecks degrade under water,if not maybe do
@@notapeopleperson9390are you comparing the titanic with ships that could be over a thousand years old? 😂😂
@@NikhoCiemny yes and in my eyes that is no more insane than this ancient world spanning civilisation bs
@@notapeopleperson9390You think that is a meaningful comparison?
Many underwater sites are low oxygen, which reduces the rate of decomposition, just like bog bodies and tar pit finds. Most of the Native American dugout canoes were found underwater and they are thousands of years old. So, yes, they do last longer.
A simple google search would be pretty easy too.
After seeing what terrible shape the Titanic is in lately, I'm not surprised there is very little evidence of ancient boats.
Depends on the environment, if a under water mud slide covered the titanic rendering if from any oxygen exposure it would be preserved for a very long time.
Right? What a fully ridiculous talking point. Unless folks 10,000 years ago were floating around on stone ships, the likelyhood of any other materials surviving ocean action that long… and Dribble calls himself a person of science, laughable 🐃💩
@@DespaceMan another point, the fossils we have seen are a tiny slither of the prehistoric animal pie. And some animals don't fossilize, like jellyfish.
@@jeninlight exactly, very little survives time. A bridge has been found inside a cave on a Mediterranean island and has rocked scientists... it was unusually protected.
@@DespaceMan Sure, being covered by mud or whatever might protect some materials from decay -- but also make it a lot harder to ever find 🤔
Dibble is a classic example of; once you believe you know it all, you fail to learn anything new.
That summarises most of academia currently.
He's what you would get if Dunning-Kruger came alive and inhabited a person
@@DJRavekthat was my line 😢😂
Wise words
@@DJRavek Funny you said that.
This is why everyone should familiarize themselves with what the logical fallacies are & how they are used. Knowing what the appeal to authority fallacy is or knowing the phrase "Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence" for example are 2 things that are of great help when dealing with academia.
Excellent point.
People just need to use their b******* detector.
You can tell this guy was full of it because he just totally dismissed any evidence that contradicted his opinion.
When you run out of questions you're fuct as a scientist.
Thanks for your work and stay passionate.
You didn't make a mistake. It was simply a learning experience that allowed you to level up your knowledge and skills 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@@Nocturnal2010 yes he needs to practice his grift more
He’s been researching this topic for decades he should have been up to scratch with the shipwreck lie because dibble clearly lied but made Graham look like a fraud
Soooo, I assume that in this video, Hancock will show evidence of a site with advanced technology that can not be placed anywhere in the historical timeline, with agriculture and metal that can be dates to the ice age
I love the wisdom in the comment sections of Graham's videos.
@@barebasics Well to be fair, he can't know everything on every subject. If Dibble also made up that mice in Indonesia prove Hancock wrong, not sure what he may have answered to show he's lying again. That's why this kind of live debate is less interesting than video responses for instance, but more entertaining I guess. A dishonest person will always win.
You are a very kind man.
👍🏻 Well done Graham.
😂
He just confirmed what we all have been dealing with. Lies.
Humbly, the "3 million shipwrecks" stat dibble provided was an immediate red flag. that number is simply impossible.
*** i do not have a dog in the fight. i am only a conscientious observer, commenting on the implausibility of the "3million" claim.
It's about as impossible as the stat that another one of Joe's interviewees dropped on us. The one that if you removed the gun deaths from our top ten cities the n the US would drop from first to like 150th in the world. That is so insanely dumb. If you removed the gun deaths from our top 100 cities, we'd drop from 1st to 1st, maybe 2nd in the world. I'm not going to look up the stats right now, but I know once you get past the 100th country in number of gun deaths, you are in single digit territory. As in the 100th country has like 8 gun deaths a year. It was such an absurd statement, yet Joe send to eat it up & I've heard it repeated since. It's utterly absurd, just as this Flint Dibble character is a fraud.
Flint himself has said that the 3 million number was a mistake. He was referring to an article that said 300000 wrecks and the 3 million number was an estimate in the article. He acknowledged this mistake long ago.
@@Eyes_Open Imagine taken an article out of context to prove a point and do little to no research on said article then apologize later for your lack of knowledge.🤔
@@Eyes_Open Yeah but... Many of us, who watched the "debate" had only Dr Dibble's appeal to authority to go by. Acknowledgement after the fact is not good enough, although it may be laudable. Basically, if he was mistaken about that "Fact" (actually an estimate), then what else might he be mistaken about? The debate continues...
@@Eyes_Open and the other 30492532 things he lied/ wasnt honest about?
everyone was already on your side! no need to defend yourself. much love, keep pressing. YOUR work is invaluable. That was a clown show in the front of a MASTER
Superbly well structured in form and content.
It doesn’t count as a debate loss if the other side lies repeatedly
disqualification should be a thing.
Exactly, Graham should have been disqualified I mean who preaches facsit theories like hyperdiffionism on NETFLIX and gets away with it...lunacy
Dude! Flint won the debate in the subjects where Hancock was supposed to be an expert. Why didn’t bring enough evidence. Even Joe Rogan who is an admirer of Hancock seems to understand that what Hancock says might sound tantalizing but not facts.
Only Hancock has lied.
Read the papers he cites as evidence. None of them back up his crazy claims
@@dailydose1939never claimed to be fact he is simply giving a hypothesis which he himself has proclaimed.
Mr Hancock, Rogan's debate was fascinating and painful to say the least. This is an impressive comeback, although I feel your pain and it saddens me. You should be proud of your endeavours indeed. Thanks for your eloquence and terrific work.😊
This type of character cancellation is a problem.
The Gnostic Informant and the Mythism Channel both tried to cancel Dr Robert Price (and myself to a degree) using the same underhand technique. They called Dr Price a rayycist, transphobe, misogynist and white suprem..….. You know the drill. Anything to besmirch a character, and destroy his career - which they achieved to a degree - reducing his viewership by a large margin.
But anyone who has followed Dr Price, will know him as a mild mannered and viewed huggy-bear. It should not be a crime within academia, to be a Republican - which is what most of this attack this was all about.
Ralph Ellis
I wholeheartedly agree!!!
Yeah, normal people are getting wise to his money making lies
@@RalphEllis Using the progressive leftist definitions of racism and white supremacy, there is actually nothing immoral about either of those. To translate into normal person English, when they call a white person racist, it just means they don't hate white people or want to erase them. When they call you a white supremacist, it means that you love your family.
nobody got canceled what are you complaining about?
The fact flint thinks ships that are over 50,000 years old would still be in the ocean is hilarious!!
Or that they would be along the MODERN coast line, and not off the continental shelf
@DJRavek right! That's what stuck out to me! Like bro...
Isn’t the titanic already starting to break up? I thought those were odd statements
@@jamesw572 Yeah, I think they said it will be completely gone by 2100
I love your work Graham
You didn't do that badly in the debate Mr Hancock, you were up against lies so how are you meant to fight against that. You are a beacon for people like me so thank you. Keep it up.
yeah his own lies
@@driveboy317 his own lies? which ones?
More info please? 🙏 @@driveboy317
@@driveboy317you take your time though buddy 😄
@@onapermohow bout his claim that there is a concerted effort by "big archeology" against him? Thats clearly a lie and Graham trying to play victim to gain sympathy.
Thank you for taking the time to respond on these subjects.
To be fair Graham, most of Flynt's references were him simply saying "my dad"
I'm so glad someone else noticed this. It felt so funny considering the dude looked like he was wearing an oversized suit that he bought of the rack at a Goodwill.
@Tomtastrophe nah it was his dad's suit
Is it mean that I laughed out loud for real at this? Lmao
You have never claimed to be something you’re not. The work you do is important and I would love to see a day where everyone works together to find the truth. Simply watching one of your very early videos made me question what we are taught and isn’t that a good thing? This video really hits the mark, thank you for taking the time to present.
Pushing nonsense to sell books is not important
That day is already here. Its called science.
The thing is we cant keep disproving the same things every day. Otherwise we never move.
@@MarcusCicero1 so true, glad you agree
@@Pawsk completely agree, I’m a science person and glad you agree. The megaliths around the world alone is science enough for me that there was different technologies used that we somehow forgot
@@theciav well that is just dumb. We have demonstrated so many times that these kinds of constructions can be done fairly easily with very primitive tools.
So very clearly its not evidence of forgotten technology.
If we couldn’t figure out how to build these structures with primitive tools then, you would have an argument. In this case you dont.
Not only do we know how it could be done, we have several different ways in which it could have been done. And we even have reconstructions of it in several cases.
Fascinating, impressive but not mysterious.
Been waiting for this for months
Keep up the great work! Thank you!
Hmmm......,ive been a fan of yours since fingerprints of the gods,spoke to you briefly in 1997,so impressed, your persistent and dedicated research has embarrassed and exposed so many fallacies in the official narrative for all these years, the spite you received for ancient apocalypse indicates how deep you have wounded traditional dogma,you arent the first man to underestimate a protagonist and you wont be the last,its how you deal and respond to their arguments and dismissals, and once again, so on the money,your depth of research and still obvious passion after a lifetime is formidable,i knew when i saw you years ago you were the real deal,greatest respect,thankyou for feeding my curiosity and wonder
@@eurasia1963 Youre a bot
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Hey Graham, just wanna say I love you man. Youve inspired me so much and opened my mind to things I'd never even considered the first time I listened to you many years ago. I know the criticism must be hard, but please stay strong! You're the best!
You,Mr.Hancock, are somebody I would listen to all day every day, because you have open mind. People like Flint,on the other hand,who think that they already found and explained everything are so boring,that nobody pays any attention to their work. Keep the great work,Mr Hanckock,you are the true scientist of our time,history will remember you,not Mr Doodle!
I felt your comment. I got lots of hours of enjoyment from grahams audio books his voice and dementia flawless . Highly recommend return of the plumed serpent . A great listen
Yeah its exactly why his work is ENTERTAINMENT and FANTASY and the work of Dibble is SCIENCE
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa410 what part of his lies about ice cores not showing any lead and his lies about shipwrecks were scientific...?
And please do tell me where his racist accusations had any science in them ..
A recurcher with a good theory is worth 10 archaeologists who lie or mislead ...
I don't know why I tell you this cause you don't have an open mind. I fear that if you were born when the earth was the center of the universe you would say the same thing and be as wrong then .
I'm not saying grahams idea is right just that archeology can't explane what some of the evidence shows so we need others to therorise and thay should not face a smear campaign for that if what they say ,if it is wrong then use evidence to show that even better go out look at what graham looks at find answers on these questions people want to know
Also just remember flint is a expert in bones not lost civilisations...
Graham has studied lost civilisations for 30+ years so as close to expert as you can get ...
It's funny how Hancocks followers can't spell, or punctuate. Low intellect individuals through and through dupped by a quak.
@@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa410 crazy how so many ppl think that you have to give credit to every lunacy or you are not being open minded. The future is very dark.
He made you let your guard down with that oversized coat. He had a few tricks up those extra long sleeves.
Wait, did Hancock really just use the term negro features when talking about Olmec heads?????
Great video Graham as always thank you
This is a master class in eloquent social-media takedowns. Well played sir 👍🏻
Graham you are a savage and a gentlemen, Keep up the good work!
I don't agree. There's nothing "savage" about Graham at all. If someone tells you bullshit but you don't have the facts in front of you this is exactly what to do. This way you educate properly vs trying to be smarter than your capabilities such as this dribbled ass Graham debated. Wasted his time. But I am glad he did this video so that the ignorant may receive real knowledge
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I am writing my Phd thesis right now - and this methodical break down of facts is in a similar cadence, and appears even better researched.
Good luck with it, all the best,
in what? charlatanism?
If you really believe that I am certain you will fail your PhD - read the papers Hancock cites and you will see that they say the direct opposite to what he claims! He has no evidence to prove Dibble wrong, other than the mistake Dibble agrees he made about 3 million vs 300,000 boats.
Failing to read the papers is extremely poor
FLINT DIBBLE LOOKS LIKE A SOUTH PARK CHARACTER
Sex offender more like lol
The league of adventurers!!
@@questorfearz flint dribble head of the dribble clan
Ha, so glad you took the time to do this. He seemed like he was full of BS! ❤
Flint will be responding to this silliness.
@@Eyes_Open so, your point?
@@Eyes_Open And we care why? about anything Flint has to say outside of his academic degrees? 🤔
@@ExessiveGKBecause one guy has made a living from archaeology. The other has profit from making speculative claims that doesn’t have much validity.
@@alonsogu3562 Flint academic learning is in agriculture and even then he has been told his theories are wrong by scientist who research agriculture by scientist's who Flints theories rely on for evidence, so remind me again why we would care about some D minus academic telling us outside of his education why we should listen to him?🤔
It’s crazy how “anti racist” make literally everything about race.
Real facts delivered with class and style. Keep up the great work, Graham... There will always be a Flint dibble out there somewhere, but there will also always be those of us to see and hear what you are actually doing. And we appreciate it
Actually, most of it is lies
I was dissapointed in your performance. You made it wayyy too personal and didn’t provide evidence like you have in the past. This is awesome that you’re owning it
“In the past”
He’s never provided it ever
He didnt provide anything of substance and anything resembling evidence in this one either.
@@mf8279because that’s not the goal of the video. He is simply checking the “facts” that Flint used in their debate. Which I’m sure you can agree we’re not facts and simply what ever information he could find in order to convince people of his claim.
@RyJo. So you mean he stole Hancocks schtick?😅
@@mf8279 Graham never claims anything to be fact. He says certain things need investigating for specific reasons. Many of which are compelling reasons. But Archiologists refuse to even discuss it and now even lie to avoid investigating them.
Keep shining the light☀️Graham, more people ate starting to wake up to the truth you are presenting.
Yes, the truth of zero evidence for Hancock.
@@Eyes_Openyes, of course, how did I miss that😂
@TruthWiz He has presented zero evidence. That is why his ideas are accepted only by himself and others who wish to believe.
@@nmtumbleweed5320 I am not sure how you missed it. He makes it quite clear himself when he says that archaeology has thus far found zero evidence to support his ideas.
The humble introduction says a lot, Graham. Looking forward to Ancient Apocalypse!
The humble intro is a hook to get audience sympathy. This has been his strategy. It makes his audience believe anything he says after that. IMHO.🤷♂
@@CuriosityQuery
Has nothing to do with sympathy
Ppl want to know our origins and mainstream anything is bunch of nonsense
Graham is one of many pioneers who have put forth undeniable evidence that what we are told is clearly a bunch of crap
And human history is much more interesting than we thought
It’s anything but a straight line progression
Advanced technology was here in ancient times
Just in the last 2-3,000 years we went through hills and troughs of our understanding
Greeks, Romans, Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Sumerians etc all these ancient ppl were much more advanced than we were in the 1700s
Ppl from 2-3,000 years ago were more advanced than ppl were just few hundred years ago
@@CuriosityQuery dibbles alt
@@anthonyurso3554 Agreed. Human history is very interesting and there 's so much to unpack. But I would leave it to the experts who have earned their place in uncovering history because its what they do. Graham has a narrative that he's been cradling for years. He's not an archeologist or an expert yet people side on him because its a marvelous claim and very enticing. But this is all he has, he does not educate anyone like scholars and academics instead he entertains everyone with amazingly produced shows and published books to gain money.
Humble? He is reading a script with measured restraint to sound deeply genuine. You can tell the difference between humility and acting I hope
I think Joe Rogan should have both of you back on his show so you can challenge that last debate. Just saying
Nah. Just Graham.
Just dribble on his own ... Let him tell the story from his perspective... Fact checking all the way... I bet he's suddenly too busy
It's not like Graham is going to suddenly have evidence. If he had any, he would have presented it the first time around.
Dibble won't have the courage to do round 2. If he does, I suggest Rogan forces Dibble to address each lie first before proceeding with more of the same.
@@kevensummers5353 What evidence could he present? He has presented his theories, he's done the legwork and more importantly he has used his common sense and skills as a journalist (A real one, not a modern-day "journalist") to create and present a theory. Nothing about it is impossible, and a lot of it makes sense. But it was a long time ago, anything physical is likely long gone.
So again, what evidence can he present that Academia would even look at, let alone accept?
I have not seen/heard any racist comments of any kind from Graham Handcock. Who is paying this Dribble to spread his dribble?
It's racist to presume ancient, so called primitive, races were not capable of their achievements. Ancient people did those things on their own. They didn't have lost advanced white races or aliens to enable them. Graham is a total hack and the only reason Joe continues to back him is out of his misplaced childish mafioso sense of loyalty.
I appreciate all of your work, Graham. You're a huge inspiration to all!
What work ? Can you actually point to any actual evidence Hancock has presented ?
Have you read his books? Read them with an open mind. If you don't agree, fine.
By the way, he has all kinds of evidence in all of his work, both books and films. Be brave and independent. I dare you...
@@rosebladepat all that evidence, but you can't point to a single one ?
I didn't know that he had issues with documenting evidence? Have you read his books? They're loaded with footnotes backing his assertions. Read his work before making blind criticisms. It shows how unfamiliar you are with Hancock. Seems like you're looking to get some anger out with little much else. Good luck to you. Be well.
You have our support Graham. I am currently reading a book on Genetics, DNA and Human Origins from David Reich, it is peppered with how Geneticists are being lambasted by 'Archeologist' as DNA science now puts into question the 'established' migration and interbreeding of humans as determined by language and culture.
The author David Reich reports being sharply challenged in similar manner and fury when proposing that the genetic 'evidence' counters their 'theories' about human migration.
This is nothing new. Since the mid 90s genetic study has completely disproven the archeological perspective on the peopling of the americans and pacific islands. Its only within the last couple years that you see the archeologists adapting and accepting the science.
Thank you, Graham, for not accepting everything as a fact when we're told to do so.
Love your work! This is a fantastic video. Thank you so much 🎉💜⭐️
great Graham! keep at it, I find your work fascinating, not only the subject matter itself, but bringing light to how "science" in the end can be very human and not scientific at all. the free debate and discussion of the internet brings a lot more brilliant minds to subjects they wouldn't ordinarily been able to connect with each other, this should be embraced as a way to get us to real answers faster, rather than those elite that feel threatened that they might be left behind.
We ❤ you Graham! Thank you for all your work & your patience ! We need more great minds and people like you!
Hells yeah! And blessedness to you and your loved ones! Be good! Be kind! We love you!
Time for Joe to get you both back on. Topics to be outlined in advance to allow you both to prepare your arguments and presentation!
screw Joe… he f’d up imo
So the exact same thing again?
@@Phoenixx.1999 the fact Joe hasn’t uttered one word about an edited version of this podcast, shared across multiple social media platforms, is misrepresentation what was said to the point it’s FALSE! so yeah, F Joe. That HE himself does not have enough integrity to point this bs out.
smh NOPE, HE, Joe Rogan, is then a part of the major problem we have trying to tell truths etc.
COME ON PEOPLE. where is everyone’s integrity?
Mr Hancock, I’m sorry this happened to you. You are a gentle sage. Keep up the good fight. You are being proven right
Great to hear from you again. please keep up the great work.
Good job Graham! very good video you put together, good to see you got a good Mic and comfortably sitting in your own space!
You are a hero to my brother and myself. Im 47 and have read and listened to you my whole adult life. Ben UK🇬🇧
47 and Santa is still real 😂
@@BLG80 since you are clearly the smartest of the bunch please share with the class. What are your arguments for there being absolutely no advanced pre-history civilization?
@@RyJo. Because a claim requires substantiation, it requires evidence. and even by Hancock's own admission what we have uncovered it is not evidence of this advanced civilization. I believed this once until I studied the philosophy of Plato and saw hancocks tricks in using Plato as evidence. when you know what to look for, he is simply duping people who have never studied any of the areas he touches on and makes it sound plausible, your imagination and wonder do the rest so he doesn't need to prove a thing to get people to believe him.
@@RyJo.extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, it’s not up to us to prove you silly bullshit ain’t real
We love and appreciate you Gram ( please note when I buy my hair die in 2025) the color is still written as black/ negro ( Spanish for black) soooooooooo idk just saying don’t apologize for a 30 yr old book we love and take value in! You did great on Rogan and no one took stock in dribbles Drabble 😂
I’m not sure if this message will reach you, Graham, but I want you to know that I deeply respect your work. I studied geography and have a strong background in anthropology and geology. The questions you raise, the ideas you explore, and the points you emphasize touch on areas that are far from being fully understood or resolved. It’s through asking questions that science advances. Reflecting and challenging mainstream academia is at the heart of true scholarship. Critical thinking and rational inquiry, much like Alfred Wegener's theory of plate tectonics-sadly only accepted after his death-are what push knowledge forward. Your ideas aren’t harmful; rather, they expose one of the greatest gaps in understanding, free from villains but shaped by ignorance of the unknown. Keep going-you have far more supporters than you might realize. Thank you, Graham and best greetings from Germany!
This is a great format for you Graham! Please communicate like this more often!
Well done Graham, These pompous KnowItAll's need a good dose of humility. We must realize what we don't know is vastly more voluminous of what we know.
Great rebuttal, Graham. You are amazing. Dibble is a dribble.
It's called gaslighting. I once watched a Discover Channel doc about a seamingly ancient Chinese/Asian shipwreck off the coast of California. They explained it must not actually be chinese, because ancient Chinese navigators could not sail the deep oceans, drawing a line straight accross the Pacific as an impossible route, while ignoring the fact you can clearly sail along the coast and islands from China, up to Russia, to Alaska and back down the West Coast.
judgmentcallpodcast covers this. Fact-checking Flint Dibble on Rogan
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Wait, did Hancock really just use the term negro features when talking about Olmec heads?????
Can you link the specific video, please?
I wonder if they ever made boats out of ice, and that's why we never find remains, just spitballing lol
Your hubris and tenacity are inspiring sir! Thank you for your efforts!
I think you need to check the definition of hubris, lol.
@@medwayhospitalprotest I was trying to imply lack of but I guess I did not word it well. English is my second language.
I don’t think you mean huberis. Perhaps confidence or persistence?
@@mcdart2606 I was trying to highlight how humble he is but yes either of those will work too. I appreciate the feedback from folks to help me improve my communication skills.
@@mcdart2606 I was trying to highlight how humble he is but yes either of those would work. I appreciate the feedback from folks to help me improve my communication skills.
Using small, rudimentary boats cannot compare to what a worldwide civilization would look like. I really don't understand how someone could push for a theory they don't have a single proof.
Can you explain your comment? We don't have even small boats from the Ice Age even though we know human beings were navigating during that time through other evidence.
@AbeAlJ right, i guess that even the oldest canoes we found were a bit after. But that's a critical point: we dont have any evidence of a worldwide civilization that travelled from america to the estern mediterranean. His theory is based on nothing. The mistake about shipwreck sites number by fink doesnt change that.
Hancock has lots of suggestive evidence to support his hypothesis. He doesn't have proof, because if he did, it would be a fact and not a hypothesis. There's nothing wrong with that. All you need to warrant an investigation is enough evidence to make it a worthwhile investment, given the likelihood of finding something and the magnitude of the prospective discovery. Archaeological digs are routinely done on far less.
@@AndreaFasani Yeah there is other evidence, just not canoes. But the reason why not having canoes doesn't matter is because we don't have any kind of shipwrecks from 50,000 years ago, for example, even though we know people were using boats at least since that time.
One of the important pieces of evidence is that major archealogical sites align with astronomical phenomenon from ~10,000 BC. This means the sites were built at that time and people had advanced knowledge of astronomy and building technology before then. Therefore, there was an ice-age civilization.
@@AbeAlJ sure, buddy, a world wide civilization! With lasers and spaceships, that's why we never found boats and canoas. Checkmate!
Wow! Mr. Graham! I am so so so glad to see you upload new official video. Hope you could attend more shows like Joe Rogan shows and discuss with varieties of professional regarding the lost ancient civilization topics.
I have to say, Kevin, that I disagree. Platforms like JRE are _entertainment_ - right from the host's calibre to the format of the show to the reasons people watch them. Quick-paced "debates" are not a means for finding the "truth" precisely because, as we see, it's very easy to game them the way that Flint did it. It's more a puerile popularity contest than anything. Don't get me wrong, I've watched quite a bit of JRE in my time. There are topics that I come to know about from shows like this that I can then dig into elsewhere in more serious formats. So it's really good in that regard. And the other thing, of course, is the user base being so large. So if anything, I'd encourage Graham to go on there just to talk about his work 1-1 with Joe and to get a chance to introduce his ideas to a broader audience.
Day 1 of asking for Hancock vs Dibble live from Gobekli Tepe
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