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I don't understand why Graham Hancock is constantly attacked. Everything he says seems reasonable/logical. He always seems very objective and points out the counter arguments, and why he thinks they are wrong etc. From what I've seen, he's asking perfectly valid questions when he sees holes in the historical records.
Same... years ago I thought that maybe the critics may have a point on some things, but over a decade later it seems time is on Graham's side. I think this is will be dominant view of the human story for a while to come
Because he upset's the investors - for example: stomach ulcers were proved to be caused by bacteria and could be cured with a few pills. The discover was absolutely crushed because he threatened the 'surgical removal of part of people's stomachs' industry - a huge earner for investors. Over ten years later, ten years! of unnecessary partial stomach removal surgeries, was the cure accepted - ten fg years - think about that for a while, and look closely at the world around you.
@@nathanmitchell7961I don't think he's a fraud. The point is we don't know a lot about the past and what we know in many aspects raises questions. 50 years ago we knew a lot less and had a different view of humans of the past. So in my oppinion it only makes sense that in 20-30 years our view might be completely different. Why not keep an open mind then? There is way more that we don't know than what we do know.
The weirdest one for me is the station stones of Stonehenge, dated to about 5000 years ago which is also when Sumer and Egypt and Harappa appeared, placed at perfect alignments with the solstices and lunar standstills and built on the exact line of latitude where these alignments form a perfect rectangle, the same line of latitude where the oldest "medicine wheels" are found in the Americas, which literally look like tiny Stonehenges and are also dated to about 5000 years ago.
I always find graham educational and entertaining. All the information he presents is correct, I just disagree with his conclusions. I don’t think it’s a lost civilization, I think it’s a lost religion. I think the earth was cold, dark and food was scarce during the ice age. Humans survived by living in underground tunnels and caves etc. Then the ice age ended, the sun came back and provided food, warmth and light to the world. The ancients worshipped the sun in the hope that it would stay and that the earth would not return to the time of the ice age that their ancestors knew. They built temples and paid homage to the sun “god”. I think this ancient religion is coded in modern religions today.
@@zeljkomikulicic4378 meteoride big big volcano etuption plus add ashes in the air and lowering sunlight and 10-20 years of nuclear winter and stuff (example)
Yea good theory as many old religion like Egyptian and pagan even norse mythology had sun gods or someone repenting a sun god as what most people don't get today is most of the religions are re written many times over the years and most even wright in events like Christianity did with pagans there holidays to fit there religion so they join it so how many changes from the first writings have changed to fit a new world as time goes on hundreds of years. As have been few places now we found were caves looked like they were mega city's were people might of lived but i don't think we will ever know the truth in are life time as really religion still holds us back as they never like anything that goes against there books that is every religion not just 1 of them.
The controversy is archeology has perverted the past to its own gain, and believes it can write our history and set it in stone to its own will, the history can never be changed, we must open our minds to the immense possibilities of who we used to be if we want to find the answer to who we really were
People living in mud huts in a forest don't wake up one day fed up and say I'm bored. Let's build a mega stone city, perfectly aligned, to accommodate 1000's of people we don't know, using building skills we don't have. Clearly, there was an ancient civilisation that suffered a catastrophic event. Those who survived had the natural instinct to want to rebuild what they previously had. They did, but within a few generations, it was lost and abandoned.
If you take the technology evolution for example, not even 100years, looking back at it after thousands of years it will seem as if it happened all in on day. If one guy in the forest starts playing with stones, in a few years you would eventually have buildings. Id argue they had plenty of time on their hands, its not like they were working 8h shifts.
Graham always says he's being stifled by big archeology. Meanwhile he goes on the biggest podcasts with hundreds of millions of views, sold millions of books and has a show on netflix
He monetises his work no doubt, but equally if you aren’t funded by mainstream science institutions you’d have to in order to continue doing your work. Either that or just research the history of humanity on the weekends!
It is worth remembering that there have been 4 ice ages in the last 400,000 years. Did we have civilization rise up only to be decimated more than once during that time. Could those have reached at least the level of Bronze Age civilization only to be smashed back into the Stone Age? Remember there was the Bronze Age collapse that saw the disintegration of a large multi nation trade system and caused several of the then top nations fall into illiterate tribes skulking around the ruins of their once great cities. That didn’t have as long a disruption as a full glacial cycle. What would a few millennia of frozen wastes have destroyed?
Before i got in touch with graham hancock videos i allways thought of what would be the possiility of having existed a roman empire style civilization that dwindled between 20.000 to 100.000 years ago? We were allready fully developed humans
Graham is so well spoken and intelligent. When he talks about actual history and archaeology, he’s so captivating. I just wish he would drop this lost civilisation bullshit. If there was a civilisation in the ice age and it had survivors, they for sure had a writing system. It’s not difficult to teach someone to write, definitely easier than making them build a pyramid. Nothing in his theory adds up or makes any sense.
@@edgarslinis5873 you’ve about 20 years to pass on skills to a hunter gatherer tribe and you don’t speak the same language. I know what’s important let’s teach them how to write, sure pal that’s gonna be a big priority. Take your head for a wobble
@ lol. If the people of this so called “lost civilisation” wanted to pass on their story and their knowledge, they could’ve simply inscribed it. In a cave or on a rock. It’s really simple. And those survivors should’ve had kids. Wouldn’t you teach your kids how to write? Judging by your comment, I guess not
I don't have any problem with Hancock and his theories and hypotheses. What I have a problem is when he says the word "evidence". He uses it liberally and in the context of his sentences it gives the impression that there actually is evidence when there is actually none. Yes, there are observations of facts in the geological and archaeological record, but "evidence" conveys that these facts support a particular theory. They do not, and as pointed out Hancock often, I would even say usually, ignores countervailing facts. He's a journalist, not a scientist, and that shines through all of his writing as he weaves fanciful theories about lost civilizations etc. I would not even call him a "popular science writer", like Neil deGrasse Tyson, who educates people about the best available current science on the universe. Hancock is essentially a fabulist, taking disparate facts and observations and weaves them together into a fiction. Again, I'm all for hypotheses, but if you can't ground them in an array of supporting facts, move on, or at the very least stop writing books about it. As for the scientific community attacking him, they *should* attack him and debunk him. It's not "canceling". It's calling out a charlatan who is polluting their field of science and misleading the public. He should not be bitter because he has no one but himself to blame and is making a handsome living off his misinformation.
this guy doesn't know the words '' evidence AND precedent '' , not an effing clue and nobody told him about it in his 40 years of spouting his nonsense , we KNOW that people from West Africa went all over the world , DNA proves this , they went to China , Japan , Australia even , the only tiny problem , they didn't build in the same way , with those weird stacked walls , the only people we KNOW went around the world , build with straight lines this was 50.000+ years ago , they went out from West Africa , people have been walking this planet for MILLIONS of years , of course there have been civilizations that have gone around the world , but not in the way THIS guy thinks , there just isn't ANY evidence for it , no matter how long or hard Hancock wants to yell it in to the universe !!
i'd love to see a debate between Hancock and an archeologist talk about why there's a notion that there hasn't been any major civilizations before the cataclysm
Graham is completely right. 300 000 plus years ago 1st modern humans appeared and it took them well over 290 000 years to start the first civilizations. They took the time till after the Younger Dryas cataclysms to say: 'hey, now that this 'orrible thing (great flood) is finally done with and with it the ice age, let's start building cities cause we sure couldn't do that, old chaps, before this time came'. Younger Dryas must have been a series of cataclysms of great scale which wiped out civilization(s) that created the Megalithic wonders of structures that still stand to this day.
It's crazy how mad people get with Graham Hancocks theories, but to me, it's important for people to offer different ideas with a new way of looking at the world
So isn’t the missing link the suitable and stable climate? Until the end of the last ice age this wasn’t the case, therefore when the conditions were finally right, the process of civilization and agriculture finally started to take place?
Questions about why agriculture developed only after the Younger Dryas is probably explained by necessity. After all, the YD was an extinction event so much of their food source disappeared. So, they really had no choice. Also, may I point out that maybe these big megalithic walls, forts, and platforms were built for protection from the Megafauna. I mean a heard of 20 ton elephants could sure trample any village that wasn't protected by a big wall or built on a platform. And any wall built with wood or small bricks would provide little protection. But those big ass multi-ton blocks we see at so many old sites could.
0:20 The 'shopping center bag' depiction that appears to existed across different peoples might hold one of the best clues to further understand if and perhaps how the hypothesized transmission of knowledge happened. You see, cultural expressions do differ across cultures - that's how they're identified as pertaining to one culture. For example, when a culture expresses say, life, or a god, or death, it does that by means of its local understanding, which in turn may happen over some or many generations. Further study of one culture's traditions forms the basis for understanding which expressions hold specific symbolic meanings. But, the pictorial representations will certainly differ. Now, on the other hand, when we have an *exact* same pictorial representation across cultures so vastly differentiated and so sparse geographically, we have a particular situation, we have a conundrum to explain. This is the case of the 'shopping center bag' representation. It should not have happened. It should not have existed. Whilst it does not proof the transmission of knowledge, this hypothesis certainly is one of the few that could explain its apparition.
Having a look at the tile for the video, I realized scale models of our ancient wonders are not present, perhaps because they once carved models from ice.
It would make sense for civilization to only start after the ice age though, *if we were willing to entertain the hypothesis that humans are functional carnivores.* There is good evidence that our hunter gatherer ancestors sustained themselves largely by preying on the pre ice age megafauna. People have this notion that hunter gatherers would dig up roots and pick berries and all that. And they would have certainly done that. But the thing is that you can't really get that much calories by doing that. What people would have done was hunting, and back then, there was meat galore walking around in the form of megafauna. Then came the extinction level event that killed all the megafauna - and suddenly, that source of food would have run dry, making agriculture an alternative that would not only have been suddenly viable, but also in many cases necessary. In that sense, I'm very curious about human civilization within the ice age, but I'm not necessarily sure that we might find much predating it. But of course you'd have to piss of the vegans with *that* hypothesis, which as it's own can of worms entirely.
I guess when you are living your whole life through a cataclysm you don’t really think about even needing to document it since at the time that is just how life is
8.00 mins Graham Hancock saidthere had to have been civilizations before the Younger Dryas. At the 10,000BC. Gobekli Tepe we see the use of T-Sections in the building indicating a knowledge of advanced engineering. The group using this engineering method carried such knowledge from previous generations (as Hancock suggests) (possibly predating the Younger Dryas?)
Since we have a few stone age cultures in existence today, it isn't too much of a stretch to believe that there may have been a few advanced cultures back then.
It would take underwater research equipment, because if there were civilizations during the ice age, the evidences of those civilizations are now underwater.
3.28mins. GOBEKLI TEPE (11,000 b.c.) as Graham Hancock has pointed out has alignment with the movements of the star SIRIUS. SIRIUS was linked to farming in Ancient Egypt 3,100b.c.. The brightest star in the night sky Sirius, was used as a farming scientific aid at Gobekli Tepe 11,000 years ago , to determine the sowing and planting seasons so vital to survival.(I believe)
Imagine 10s of thousands of years of advancement, and sea levels were 300-400ft lower than the past 12000yrs, and there wasnt a major cataclysm until ~12000yrs ago(a reset essentially)
@@mr5384 you mean the dozen or so TH-cam archeologists who use fake data sets and omit data all over the show. I see schemers pal who he got to debate Hancock on rogan is now firmly on the side of the comet research team. Would help if you actually understood what your taking about
There are megalithic structures on every continent and in most countries, including Canada! …and let’s not forget the nova cycle of our star (approx 12,000 years). Younger Dryas period anyone? Magnetic polar excursions anyone? Major extinction level events anyone?
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne I beg to differ. Who then built the megalithic structures? Answer: A forgotten society. A book was written in 1919 by a female elder of a western First Nations tribe that speaks about when they arrived in North America and found “white men” living here that helped them, and those white men had stories of when they arrived in North America finding red haired giants here. How many cycles of civilization of have come and gone without trace? The oldest “mainstream” archeologically dated man-made structure now excess 700,000 years old. There is a great deal to what Hancock says, people simply need to put the pieces together.
@@aquarionh2o132 No. This is just wishful thinking. I want to be rich tomorrow. There is a possibility that i could get rich tomorrow. But that does not transfer into i will be rich tomorrow. Do you understand? What about the megalithic structures...cultures build things that were big. On every continent, pretty much, with some exceptions, maybe. Who built them? Cultures that were not that different from eath other, from their neighbors. I do not see any great difference.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne The stones used to build many of the structures we, with all our technology, can not move or even lift in some cases. True history is not what has been written - that’s largely just political science written by those that have paid for it to be written. True history is what factually was, and much of that has been twisted, hidden, or forgotten. Even current events have a false narrative around them which will be written into history unless people keep the truth alive…and none of this has anything g to do with wishful thinking.
@@PandaPanda-ud4nethe important thing here isn’t really who built them. He doesn’t care who built them. The whole reason for his line of ideas is what happened to the people who did these things. Why is there a reset to civilization & when will it happen to us again? He’s right about the majority of things that he points out and is willing to publicly discuss his ideas with anyone. His whole hypothesis is that the main story we’ve held onto for years no longer fits the discoveries that have been uncovered. All his done is propose ideas that fit, never said he was 100% right.
✨🌴✨This Video Confused Me, I Have To Be Honest. I Would Like To See Him Give A Lecture On His Overall Theory So That I Can Better Understand What He Is Saying. What Confuses Me Is The Idea That There Was Only One So Called Civilization Before The Event We Now Call The Ice Age. Human Beings Have Been Around For So Long That The So Called Ice Age Is A Relatively Recent Event. How Then Would We Have Waited For Most Of Our Existence Before Creating A So Called Civilization? ✨🌴✨
What, the population of the Americas, and some truly astonishing and unexplained feats of stone masonry, not to speak of the written language of the Mayas, required 20,000 years, and the same feats replicated elsewhere in the old world, all at roughly the same time- what to make of that? That given the genome distributions are geographically constrained, we must deduce that 20k years are required for a transition from hunting-gathering to the stasis of clans and villages, and hence "civilizations"... perhaps this is a natural process with a period of 20k years, which takes place every time a catastrophe nullifies civilizations? Given a certain level of evolution that remains roughly the same for several hundred thousand years?
I'm skeptic of Graham Hancock's theory but I give like because I think that in science everything can be questioning. I may be wrong but I think that humans took at least 100 thound years to develop language. Without a form of comunicate sophiscated ideas is impossible to create civilization.
Looking at Graham , it reminds me of how we have been wrong about so many things , but I doubt the international archaeological community will take him seriously just coz they don’t want to validate his theories or give it any credibility just coz it’s coming from an outsider. Arrogant pricks . But history never remembers them , but is kind to people who dared to think different and ask questions .I hope he doesn’t stop .
I find it strange that graham understands that we've found skeletons from 300 thousand years ago and they somehow survived all that time yet we've found no evidence of any advanced civilization from that time which if it did exist for sure have left behind traces. If gobekli tepi can survive than the structures of a truly advanced society would be everywhere
I try to imagine holding a civilization together in those times. It appears an idea was shared across the planet by something or we are looking at a busy work phenomenon so leaders could keep their heads..
@spoonsmith9506 Graham is a journalist and author...which is what he's been doing for decades. Feel free to call him wrong, right or whichever label, so long it is accurate.
No. He insulted the entire field of archeologist. People that have worked very hard at a not very high paying job. He claims they are liars or just too stupid to find evidence for his crackpot theory. You don't get to spout off like that then claim that it's them attacking you.
@@clayton5584 This man started spouting off recently, but the other side have apparently been attacking him for like 30 years unprovoked, these people are running off of theories, he's running off of theories as well, but they for some reason have hated that his theories differ from theirs, and they've bene attacking him for ages over it
Let him breathe? He has literally been on every single big podcast, has sold millions of books and has a show on Netflix. I think he has plenty room to breath😂
@@bulletproof1581 You don't know the difference between the gradations of theories at all... you're acting as if all theories are created equally, or that peer reviewed theory should (by fiat) be seen in the same regard as fanciful extrapolations made for bookdealist marketing purposes.
@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind You're either being an idiot or an asshole on Grahams work lol, in no way what so ever has Graham made any crazy suggestion that isn't grounded, yes because we aren't being allowed to physically do further research, allot of what gets talked about is the edges of people's thoughts, and we are essentially speculating on what we think things were, but again none of what Graham has said isn't grounded, it's just different opinions that for around 30 years mainstream archeology were bent out of shape about.... I bet you're not going to be able to tell me a single thing that Graham has said that's easily debunkable
Evolution is a process that takes sooo long for each species, many times Millions of years. Our Planet is 4.5 Billion Years old, but one thing you notice with Evolution is that a Cat does not become a "Cat Person", so I don't know how we got here and I am no expert on Evolution, but with what our Planet has gone through with different Catastrophes over the years, Tectonic Plates, Astroids, Volcanos........we have probably been around in this form for millions of years and have had many civilizations die out.
It seems to me that you could put all the understood information about the world in Unreal Engine, and then just drag a slider to see some events occur, then add some factors like "big storm" or "earthquake" or "wildfire" or "Massive glacial melt" or 'hotter this year" or "colder last year" and watch whole civilizations collapse in the blink of an eye, or slow motion if you like. We were able to do this on the Amiga 500 in 1990 with Populous. Now ask yourself, WTF aren't they running these simulations with the AI and hardware we have now?
Dude people carry things in bags everywhere. Is it really that difficult to imagine that people in different cultures developed a way to carry more things? Cmon
@@MollyDrennan you obviously don't know the bags im referring to. Wxact replica's across 3 continent. Those who bring the knowledge carry them.. And a watch. All matching
Show me 100% rock solid evidence of primordial single celled amoeba. There is none, there is only a large bank of knowledge built up around the faith of something with those properties existing before. This theory is similar to that one, this is of a time so removed that looking for evidence in the form of writings and lost artifacts isn’t really in the realm of possibility. Looking at every single connection between the cradles of civilization then proposing a connection isn’t easy to dismiss.
I think he’s commenting on the exponential development of society. At least the way mainstream history might tell it.. and challenges the notion that pre Mesolithic humans were not advanced past the tribal level
@@renman3000I believe one of the ideas is that certain worldwide cataclysms could erase much of the evidence. There’s more to it than that but it’s part of it. Lots of people say these past civilizations had tech that would rival or surpass what we have in terms of energy production and vehicles but the far more down to earth theorists believe these ancient civilizations had a little bit of technology and that the world was far more interconnected than we currently think. This would be before the yunger dryas period
Why it took so long . It takes that much time to evolve a brain. It works at different speeds at different time . We just blossomed again. Different races are at different levels as we speak right now . Social media and the ability to travel will make races move forward at a closer rate .Races take the best of other cultures and change to the better . Evolution
Very interesting hypothesis. One thing about it, just as interesting as the different religions, Darwinism and the Big Bang. Worth a listen and study. Picking up your books, Graham.
Just an FYI, its a common tactic that once you've been embarrassed publicly, as Graham was by Dibble, its a deceitful tactic to "vanish for a time," then go on a rehabilitation tour, which Graham is currently doing. Graham must have a LOT of money riding on the new season of his Netflix show. And I suspect Graham and Joe colluded to "over analyze" any misstatements Dibble made during the debate. Fact is, sure Dibble made a few misstatements (which he addressed over a month ago), but they did not take away from the fact that there's no evidence of a lost civilization. Graham even goes as far as to say carbon dating is not accurate. For some reason, Rogan and others are allowing Graham to continue his grift of making money on the backs of wasting everyone else's time with theories he knows are likely not true. There's a theory that the Titanic did not sink, but her sister ship, the Olympic. Yet they located the ID numbers on the propellers. Yet that doesnt stop the grifters from grifting and making money off of the gullible. Sad time.
You start off with a subjective statement, implying it was factual. Then you proceed to make an analogy that has no bearing on archaeology. Every time people like you post, it comes across as religious fervor. You people never make specific statements about an issue but make sweeping generalizations and throw out ad hominems. Archaeology is a discipline tainted by cognitive bias. It's a bunch of children trying to explain a far more complex world than they will ever know. But, hey, you get to sound pretentious and pompous on the internet. What a great life you have.
I watched that divvle video... if you think dibble came out on top there, you're insane. I don't agree with Hancock, but that Dubble guy is a self agrandizing moron. It's like watching absolute lunatics who had their brains fried by college - Hasan piker, vaush, etc - go up against just a normal person or an actual professional.
lol like I'm ever going to take the word of someone who doesn't even know what a scientific theory is. I expect the general public to use the word "theory" to mean a guess or an idea but not someone who claims to speak for science.
Because it flies in the face of the story I grew up being told was true. The impression I got growing up was that everything there was to discover pretty much already had been... it felt like I was living at the end of history and the unexpected.... Anything which did not fit with the prevailing story or history was just laughed at... the figures of history were pedastalized and defied like Christ, making them into something which we could never measure to, compare, or recreate.... I grew up before everyone had the internet wherever they went... the narrative seemed much more "real" and impermeable back then... like a magic spell or mass psychosis
@@Havre_Chithra fair enough, probably a different understanding than I had. That was we always had gaps in the human evolutionary path and that those would be filled as more fossil evidence is being unearthed. There’s still much to discover and also allow that the majority of living things don’t fossilise after death.
@TheOtherKine It was found shortly after I was born but it didn't make it into the books and the internet didn't really exist like does now (within the last 10-15 years with public wifi and smartphones)
At 1.19mins Graham Hancock said the we carry Neanderthal genes. ( Meaning?) We share about 1% to 2% of our D.N.A. with NEANDERTHALS. (What does this mean?) We share 98% of our D.N.A. with CHIMPANZEES (What does this mean?) We share 70% of our D.N.A with SLUGS - (What does this mean?) We share 50% of our D.N.A. with BANANAS. (What does this mean?)
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6:00 maybe we could not create a civilization with all the mega phauna beeings running around 😂 only when they went extinct we could make easier progress 🤷🏻♂️😄
There are a few logical explanations that don't involve civilization being advanced before the younger dryus thing. Peoples could have had some agriculture, tech and small groupings but we're stagnant for thousands of years because humans are, and or it's hard to gather and progress until, and if chance makes it available. An extinction event and or resources and or new ideas could have sparked new progress that just took off. IDK the answer or who's right, but knowing humans, I can definitely see us being little more than survivors for 200k years. Shit, most of us just sit on our hands today. Everyone says we've made so much progress in 1000 or 500 years, but I say we've barely done shit more than live in a cave compared to what we're capable of.
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I don't understand why Graham Hancock is constantly attacked. Everything he says seems reasonable/logical. He always seems very objective and points out the counter arguments, and why he thinks they are wrong etc. From what I've seen, he's asking perfectly valid questions when he sees holes in the historical records.
That’s a fact hopefully he’s compared to the people that said everything was orbiting us
Same... years ago I thought that maybe the critics may have a point on some things, but over a decade later it seems time is on Graham's side. I think this is will be dominant view of the human story for a while to come
Because he upset's the investors - for example: stomach ulcers were proved to be caused by bacteria and could be cured with a few pills. The discover was absolutely crushed because he threatened the 'surgical removal of part of people's stomachs' industry - a huge earner for investors. Over ten years later, ten years! of unnecessary partial stomach removal surgeries, was the cure accepted - ten fg years - think about that for a while, and look closely at the world around you.
You just described the issue with Hancock without realizing it.
@@LillyAntiLolita-vj5zy exactly
i get stoned just listening to graham hancock talk
It’s the best fuckin experience a human can have getting nice and roasted listening to this guy! 🔥 🍃 💨 🧠 💤
I get annoyed
I’m high
That's good because its the only way to listen to this fraud without loosing your mind.
@@nathanmitchell7961I don't think he's a fraud. The point is we don't know a lot about the past and what we know in many aspects raises questions. 50 years ago we knew a lot less and had a different view of humans of the past. So in my oppinion it only makes sense that in 20-30 years our view might be completely different. Why not keep an open mind then? There is way more that we don't know than what we do know.
The weirdest one for me is the station stones of Stonehenge, dated to about 5000 years ago which is also when Sumer and Egypt and Harappa appeared, placed at perfect alignments with the solstices and lunar standstills and built on the exact line of latitude where these alignments form a perfect rectangle, the same line of latitude where the oldest "medicine wheels" are found in the Americas, which literally look like tiny Stonehenges and are also dated to about 5000 years ago.
The Stonehenge you know isn't real. It was rebuilt and restored artistically in the 1950's.
@@Steven-D-Allan not the station stones
@@Steven-D-AllanWhoa really?
I always find graham educational and entertaining. All the information he presents is correct, I just disagree with his conclusions. I don’t think it’s a lost civilization, I think it’s a lost religion. I think the earth was cold, dark and food was scarce during the ice age. Humans survived by living in underground tunnels and caves etc. Then the ice age ended, the sun came back and provided food, warmth and light to the world. The ancients worshipped the sun in the hope that it would stay and that the earth would not return to the time of the ice age that their ancestors knew. They built temples and paid homage to the sun “god”. I think this ancient religion is coded in modern religions today.
One problem with that theory. During ice age earth was full of mega animals. Than sun start shining. And they all died. Doesn't make any sense
@@zeljkomikulicic4378 meteoride big big volcano etuption plus add ashes in the air and lowering sunlight and 10-20 years of nuclear winter and stuff (example)
Yea good theory as many old religion like Egyptian and pagan even norse mythology had sun gods or someone repenting a sun god as what most people don't get today is most of the religions are re written many times over the years and most even wright in events like Christianity did with pagans there holidays to fit there religion so they join it so how many changes from the first writings have changed to fit a new world as time goes on hundreds of years. As have been few places now we found were caves looked like they were mega city's were people might of lived but i don't think we will ever know the truth in are life time as really religion still holds us back as they never like anything that goes against there books that is every religion not just 1 of them.
the north was cold yes but most of the continents were fine
@@O-sa-carthat was my argument to this
The whole word did not experience the ice age it was only certain parts of the world
The controversy is archeology has perverted the past to its own gain, and believes it can write our history and set it in stone to its own will, the history can never be changed, we must open our minds to the immense possibilities of who we used to be if we want to find the answer to who we really were
isn't that what literally every religion attempts to do?
People living in mud huts in a forest don't wake up one day fed up and say I'm bored. Let's build a mega stone city, perfectly aligned, to accommodate 1000's of people we don't know, using building skills we don't have. Clearly, there was an ancient civilisation that suffered a catastrophic event. Those who survived had the natural instinct to want to rebuild what they previously had. They did, but within a few generations, it was lost and abandoned.
If you take the technology evolution for example, not even 100years, looking back at it after thousands of years it will seem as if it happened all in on day.
If one guy in the forest starts playing with stones, in a few years you would eventually have buildings. Id argue they had plenty of time on their hands, its not like they were working 8h shifts.
Why did the extinction of the ice age mega fauna led to the gradual development of agriculture?
Puzzling indeed
Less animals = desperate attempts to keep food on the table. Less big predators = safer to farm and/or tend livestock.
@@iGame3DYes and they were hungry.
Sarcasm?
Clearly that’s the reason for farming as a need. Hunter gathering wasn’t going to cut it anymore.
Graham always says he's being stifled by big archeology. Meanwhile he goes on the biggest podcasts with hundreds of millions of views, sold millions of books and has a show on netflix
He monetises his work no doubt, but equally if you aren’t funded by mainstream science institutions you’d have to in order to continue doing your work. Either that or just research the history of humanity on the weekends!
He wants cooperation on something that not only captures the attention of people who couldn’t care less about archaeology.
Ah yes because archeology has the lockdown on the podcast game. Also, How many chromosomes do you have?
bro your timeline is way too zoomed in. That’s all been very recent.
That’s because people love hearing stories that oppose the general academic consensus and especially if the story is a mystery
Lex should really have Dr Alex Karp on this show. They would be able to have the most fascinating conversation about philosophy and Tech
I could listen to Graham Hancock talk for hours and hours.Calm, rationed hypotheses so eruditely presented.thnaks Lex.Great Vlog as usual.
'except hancock is the exact opposite of how you describe his discourse.
It is worth remembering that there have been 4 ice ages in the last 400,000 years. Did we have civilization rise up only to be decimated more than once during that time. Could those have reached at least the level of Bronze Age civilization only to be smashed back into the Stone Age? Remember there was the Bronze Age collapse that saw the disintegration of a large multi nation trade system and caused several of the then top nations fall into illiterate tribes skulking around the ruins of their once great cities. That didn’t have as long a disruption as a full glacial cycle. What would a few millennia of frozen wastes have destroyed?
Atlantis
Yes! We know almost nothing of what happened before the last Ice Age, not to mention before the others!
Before i got in touch with graham hancock videos i allways thought of what would be the possiility of having existed a roman empire style civilization that dwindled between 20.000 to 100.000 years ago? We were allready fully developed humans
Because we don't know everything, we should just listen to some guy's fantasy about what happened? What is wrong with you? Genuinely?
@@TheOtherKine Atlantis was based on fiction created by Plato. Read a real book, please.
Graham is so well spoken and intelligent. When he talks about actual history and archaeology, he’s so captivating. I just wish he would drop this lost civilisation bullshit. If there was a civilisation in the ice age and it had survivors, they for sure had a writing system. It’s not difficult to teach someone to write, definitely easier than making them build a pyramid. Nothing in his theory adds up or makes any sense.
@@edgarslinis5873 you’ve about 20 years to pass on skills to a hunter gatherer tribe and you don’t speak the same language. I know what’s important let’s teach them how to write, sure pal that’s gonna be a big priority. Take your head for a wobble
@ lol. If the people of this so called “lost civilisation” wanted to pass on their story and their knowledge, they could’ve simply inscribed it. In a cave or on a rock. It’s really simple. And those survivors should’ve had kids. Wouldn’t you teach your kids how to write? Judging by your comment, I guess not
@Manbearpig44😅o56
I don't have any problem with Hancock and his theories and hypotheses. What I have a problem is when he says the word "evidence". He uses it liberally and in the context of his sentences it gives the impression that there actually is evidence when there is actually none. Yes, there are observations of facts in the geological and archaeological record, but "evidence" conveys that these facts support a particular theory. They do not, and as pointed out Hancock often, I would even say usually, ignores countervailing facts. He's a journalist, not a scientist, and that shines through all of his writing as he weaves fanciful theories about lost civilizations etc. I would not even call him a "popular science writer", like Neil deGrasse Tyson, who educates people about the best available current science on the universe. Hancock is essentially a fabulist, taking disparate facts and observations and weaves them together into a fiction. Again, I'm all for hypotheses, but if you can't ground them in an array of supporting facts, move on, or at the very least stop writing books about it. As for the scientific community attacking him, they *should* attack him and debunk him. It's not "canceling". It's calling out a charlatan who is polluting their field of science and misleading the public. He should not be bitter because he has no one but himself to blame and is making a handsome living off his misinformation.
Surprised even 3 people read all that
this guy doesn't know the words '' evidence AND precedent '' , not an effing clue and nobody told him about it in his 40 years of spouting his nonsense ,
we KNOW that people from West Africa went all over the world , DNA proves this , they went to China , Japan , Australia even ,
the only tiny problem , they didn't build in the same way , with those weird stacked walls ,
the only people we KNOW went around the world , build with straight lines
this was 50.000+ years ago , they went out from West Africa ,
people have been walking this planet for MILLIONS of years , of course there have been civilizations that have gone around the world ,
but not in the way THIS guy thinks , there just isn't ANY evidence for it , no matter how long or hard Hancock wants to yell it in to the universe !!
Archeology is not a science.
Agreed 👍🏽! Well said.
He lost all credibility with me after he started having Jimmy from Bright Insight as a guest speaker on ancient civilizations. That guy is joke, lol.
i'd love to see a debate between Hancock and an archeologist talk about why there's a notion that there hasn't been any major civilizations before the cataclysm
Graham is completely right. 300 000 plus years ago 1st modern humans appeared and it took them well over 290 000 years to start the first civilizations. They took the time till after the Younger Dryas cataclysms to say: 'hey, now that this 'orrible thing (great flood) is finally done with and with it the ice age, let's start building cities cause we sure couldn't do that, old chaps, before this time came'. Younger Dryas must have been a series of cataclysms of great scale which wiped out civilization(s) that created the Megalithic wonders of structures that still stand to this day.
It's crazy how mad people get with Graham Hancocks theories, but to me, it's important for people to offer different ideas with a new way of looking at the world
It’s fine offering ideas, but perhaps actually back one up for a change and offer some evidence that can be used to support those claims.
@TheRobson61 he's always stated that his ideas are of his opinion, not that it happened as a fact
@ And that’s fine, but he doesn’t stop at producing theories, he then plays the victim to no end.
Especially since it's as much of a guesas as the one they believe.
So isn’t the missing link the suitable and stable climate? Until the end of the last ice age this wasn’t the case, therefore when the conditions were finally right, the process of civilization and agriculture finally started to take place?
Kali yuga was 3101 BC-1899 AD That's why we have record of it.
It may well be that the various groups in mankind were able to spread out enough that constant war didn't occur which bought some development time.
Questions about why agriculture developed only after the Younger Dryas is probably explained by necessity. After all, the YD was an extinction event so much of their food source disappeared. So, they really had no choice.
Also, may I point out that maybe these big megalithic walls, forts, and platforms were built for protection from the Megafauna. I mean a heard of 20 ton elephants could sure trample any village that wasn't protected by a big wall or built on a platform.
And any wall built with wood or small bricks would provide little protection. But those big ass multi-ton blocks we see at so many old sites could.
I have enjoyed this episode SO MUCH! Major thought inspo 😊
0:20 The 'shopping center bag' depiction that appears to existed across different peoples might hold one of the best clues to further understand if and perhaps how the hypothesized transmission of knowledge happened. You see, cultural expressions do differ across cultures - that's how they're identified as pertaining to one culture. For example, when a culture expresses say, life, or a god, or death, it does that by means of its local understanding, which in turn may happen over some or many generations. Further study of one culture's traditions forms the basis for understanding which expressions hold specific symbolic meanings. But, the pictorial representations will certainly differ. Now, on the other hand, when we have an *exact* same pictorial representation across cultures so vastly differentiated and so sparse geographically, we have a particular situation, we have a conundrum to explain. This is the case of the 'shopping center bag' representation. It should not have happened. It should not have existed. Whilst it does not proof the transmission of knowledge, this hypothesis certainly is one of the few that could explain its apparition.
Why people keep saying thousands years ago, why not millions of years ago?
Having a look at the tile for the video, I realized scale models of our ancient wonders are not present, perhaps because they once carved models from ice.
It would make sense for civilization to only start after the ice age though, *if we were willing to entertain the hypothesis that humans are functional carnivores.*
There is good evidence that our hunter gatherer ancestors sustained themselves largely by preying on the pre ice age megafauna. People have this notion that hunter gatherers would dig up roots and pick berries and all that. And they would have certainly done that. But the thing is that you can't really get that much calories by doing that. What people would have done was hunting, and back then, there was meat galore walking around in the form of megafauna.
Then came the extinction level event that killed all the megafauna - and suddenly, that source of food would have run dry, making agriculture an alternative that would not only have been suddenly viable, but also in many cases necessary.
In that sense, I'm very curious about human civilization within the ice age, but I'm not necessarily sure that we might find much predating it.
But of course you'd have to piss of the vegans with *that* hypothesis, which as it's own can of worms entirely.
Why have we not found any burials that suggest a previously advanced human civilization? Not a single burial out of the ordinary gas been found.
I guess when you are living your whole life through a cataclysm you don’t really think about even needing to document it since at the time that is just how life is
But how did they get more technologically advanced than us, best we’ve come up with is various versions of TikTok and plastic
Says the man typing on a device and potentially conversing with people simultaneously all over the world.
Greetings from Iceland
8.00 mins Graham Hancock saidthere had to have been civilizations before the Younger Dryas.
At the 10,000BC. Gobekli Tepe we see the use of T-Sections in the building indicating a knowledge of advanced engineering. The group using this engineering method carried such knowledge from previous generations (as Hancock suggests) (possibly predating the Younger Dryas?)
It is very weird that all of the major civilizations all popped up around the same time in vastly different parts of the planet.
Graham took the words right out of my dictionary mouth
Since we have a few stone age cultures in existence today, it isn't too much of a stretch to believe that there may have been a few advanced cultures back then.
Problem is these are not 'theories' which need empirical evidence and review by peers. These are 'ideas' only.
It would take underwater research equipment, because if there were civilizations during the ice age, the evidences of those civilizations are now underwater.
3.28mins. GOBEKLI TEPE (11,000 b.c.) as Graham Hancock has pointed out has alignment with the movements of the star SIRIUS. SIRIUS was linked to farming in Ancient Egypt 3,100b.c..
The brightest star in the night sky Sirius, was used as a farming scientific aid at Gobekli Tepe 11,000 years ago , to determine the sowing and planting seasons so vital to survival.(I believe)
I'm so happy and shocked when Graham mentioned he visited Pakistan (Harrapa and Mohemjodaro).
I didn't know that.
There was civilization on the Earth before modern civilization started, but it was wiped out during Noah’s flood.
Imagine 10s of thousands of years of advancement, and sea levels were 300-400ft lower than the past 12000yrs, and there wasnt a major cataclysm until ~12000yrs ago(a reset essentially)
He speaks so eloquently
What was controversial
He never mentions the fact that the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis is considered refuted by scientific evidence
@@mr5384 you mean the dozen or so TH-cam archeologists who use fake data sets and omit data all over the show. I see schemers pal who he got to debate Hancock on rogan is now firmly on the side of the comet research team. Would help if you actually understood what your taking about
There are megalithic structures on every continent and in most countries, including Canada!
…and let’s not forget the nova cycle of our star (approx 12,000 years). Younger Dryas period anyone? Magnetic polar excursions anyone? Major extinction level events anyone?
All true, but nothing points to Hancock´s theory being true.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne I beg to differ. Who then built the megalithic structures?
Answer:
A forgotten society.
A book was written in 1919 by a female elder of a western First Nations tribe that speaks about when they arrived in North America and found “white men” living here that helped them, and those white men had stories of when they arrived in North America finding red haired giants here.
How many cycles of civilization of have come and gone without trace?
The oldest “mainstream” archeologically dated man-made structure now excess 700,000 years old.
There is a great deal to what Hancock says, people simply need to put the pieces together.
@@aquarionh2o132 No. This is just wishful thinking. I want to be rich tomorrow. There is a possibility that i could get rich tomorrow. But that does not transfer into i will be rich tomorrow. Do you understand? What about the megalithic structures...cultures build things that were big. On every continent, pretty much, with some exceptions, maybe. Who built them? Cultures that were not that different from eath other, from their neighbors. I do not see any great difference.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne The stones used to build many of the structures we, with all our technology, can not move or even lift in some cases.
True history is not what has been written - that’s largely just political science written by those that have paid for it to be written. True history is what factually was, and much of that has been twisted, hidden, or forgotten.
Even current events have a false narrative around them which will be written into history unless people keep the truth alive…and none of this has anything g to do with wishful thinking.
@@PandaPanda-ud4nethe important thing here isn’t really who built them. He doesn’t care who built them. The whole reason for his line of ideas is what happened to the people who did these things. Why is there a reset to civilization & when will it happen to us again? He’s right about the majority of things that he points out and is willing to publicly discuss his ideas with anyone. His whole hypothesis is that the main story we’ve held onto for years no longer fits the discoveries that have been uncovered. All his done is propose ideas that fit, never said he was 100% right.
✨🌴✨This Video Confused Me, I Have To Be Honest. I Would Like To See Him Give A Lecture On His Overall Theory So That I Can Better Understand What He Is Saying. What Confuses Me Is The Idea That There Was Only One So Called Civilization Before The Event We Now Call The Ice Age. Human Beings Have Been Around For So Long That The So Called Ice Age Is A Relatively Recent Event. How Then Would We Have Waited For Most Of Our Existence Before Creating A So Called Civilization? ✨🌴✨
What, the population of the Americas, and some truly astonishing and unexplained feats of stone masonry, not to speak of the written language of the Mayas, required 20,000 years, and the same feats replicated elsewhere in the old world, all at roughly the same time- what to make of that? That given the genome distributions are geographically constrained, we must deduce that 20k years are required for a transition from hunting-gathering to the stasis of clans and villages, and hence "civilizations"... perhaps this is a natural process with a period of 20k years, which takes place every time a catastrophe nullifies civilizations? Given a certain level of evolution that remains roughly the same for several hundred thousand years?
Why will Graham not admit that UFO is real ?
Because he already faces enough criticism and if he admits ufos everyone will declare him a nut job and thereby ending his lifes work
What do you mean by admit? It's not like he made ufos and is hiding them. As far as i know he only saw one while he was tripping on ayahuasca.
I'm skeptic of Graham Hancock's theory but I give like because I think that in science everything can be questioning. I may be wrong but I think that humans took at least 100 thound years to develop language. Without a form of comunicate sophiscated ideas is impossible to create civilization.
Looking at Graham , it reminds me of how we have been wrong about so many things , but I doubt the international archaeological community will take him seriously just coz they don’t want to validate his theories or give it any credibility just coz it’s coming from an outsider. Arrogant pricks . But history never remembers them , but is kind to people who dared to think different and ask questions .I hope he doesn’t stop .
I find it strange that graham understands that we've found skeletons from 300 thousand years ago and they somehow survived all that time yet we've found no evidence of any advanced civilization from that time which if it did exist for sure have left behind traces. If gobekli tepi can survive than the structures of a truly advanced society would be everywhere
I try to imagine holding a civilization together in those times. It appears an idea was shared across the planet by something or we are looking at a busy work phenomenon so leaders could keep their heads..
2:59 … Hancock is correct. There ARE many missing pieces to the puzzle … and, Hancock contributes eff-all to filling in the gaps.🤔😉✌️
We've still got lots to dig!
Why do you guys gravitate towards frauds? Is it like a trait you find relatable?
As opposed to what...? Stopping excavation in Egypt, by mainstream archeology...? Burying gobekle tepe, by mainstream archeology...?
He's an entertainer. A performer. He doesn't know crap about the truth or archeology.
@spoonsmith9506 Graham is a journalist and author...which is what he's been doing for decades. Feel free to call him wrong, right or whichever label, so long it is accurate.
Lex you need to have Dr. Roy Casagranda on podcast !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have a theory as to why all 6 so-called cradels of civilizations have the concept of dragons in their culture? Makes no sense to me.
It’s a theory with pieces of evidence, but it’s not gospel and he never says any of this is for certain.. let the guy fkn breathe
No. He insulted the entire field of archeologist. People that have worked very hard at a not very high paying job. He claims they are liars or just too stupid to find evidence for his crackpot theory. You don't get to spout off like that then claim that it's them attacking you.
@@clayton5584 This man started spouting off recently, but the other side have apparently been attacking him for like 30 years unprovoked, these people are running off of theories, he's running off of theories as well, but they for some reason have hated that his theories differ from theirs, and they've bene attacking him for ages over it
Let him breathe? He has literally been on every single big podcast, has sold millions of books and has a show on Netflix. I think he has plenty room to breath😂
@@bulletproof1581 You don't know the difference between the gradations of theories at all... you're acting as if all theories are created equally, or that peer reviewed theory should (by fiat) be seen in the same regard as fanciful extrapolations made for bookdealist marketing purposes.
@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind You're either being an idiot or an asshole on Grahams work lol, in no way what so ever has Graham made any crazy suggestion that isn't grounded, yes because we aren't being allowed to physically do further research, allot of what gets talked about is the edges of people's thoughts, and we are essentially speculating on what we think things were, but again none of what Graham has said isn't grounded, it's just different opinions that for around 30 years mainstream archeology were bent out of shape about.... I bet you're not going to be able to tell me a single thing that Graham has said that's easily debunkable
Evolution is a process that takes sooo long for each species, many times Millions of years. Our Planet is 4.5 Billion Years old, but one thing you notice with Evolution is that a Cat does not become a "Cat Person", so I don't know how we got here and I am no expert on Evolution, but with what our Planet has gone through with different Catastrophes over the years, Tectonic Plates, Astroids, Volcanos........we have probably been around in this form for millions of years and have had many civilizations die out.
Interesting well-informed speculation, hypothesis should follow, then theory, and finally law. This is NOT a "theory".
It seems to me that you could put all the understood information about the world in Unreal Engine, and then just drag a slider to see some events occur, then add some factors like "big storm" or "earthquake" or "wildfire" or "Massive glacial melt" or 'hotter this year" or "colder last year" and watch whole civilizations collapse in the blink of an eye, or slow motion if you like. We were able to do this on the Amiga 500 in 1990 with Populous. Now ask yourself, WTF aren't they running these simulations with the AI and hardware we have now?
Well that just tells me you know jack ish about how the game engines work.
Is it possible that humans had to first learn how to control the population of apex predators before they could develop civilizations?
Did he show Lex the handbags. They are reliable proof of connections between these civilizations.
It is absolute proof.
Dude people carry things in bags everywhere. Is it really that difficult to imagine that people in different cultures developed a way to carry more things? Cmon
@@MollyDrennan you obviously don't know the bags im referring to. Wxact replica's across 3 continent. Those who bring the knowledge carry them..
And a watch. All matching
@@earlwescombe1640 I know exactly what your talking about they're bags man.. bags.. lol
@@earlwescombe1640 here's another wild one . People all over the world have been seen wearing pants. Must be ancient aliens.
0:31 meaning he has no evidence
Show me 100% rock solid evidence of primordial single celled amoeba. There is none, there is only a large bank of knowledge built up around the faith of something with those properties existing before. This theory is similar to that one, this is of a time so removed that looking for evidence in the form of writings and lost artifacts isn’t really in the realm of possibility. Looking at every single connection between the cradles of civilization then proposing a connection isn’t easy to dismiss.
You lack imagination. Coelcanth wnt extinct 66 million yeas ago then off the coast of Madagascar there it is. . .
Feel sorry for you mate and your very tiny brain
So his issue is we took too long to get from Neanderthal to the pyramids? Bruh
I think he’s commenting on the exponential development of society. At least the way mainstream history might tell it.. and challenges the notion that pre Mesolithic humans were not advanced past the tribal level
@@dannymack1584 So thats all nice and stuff, but without physcial evidence...
@@renman3000I believe one of the ideas is that certain worldwide cataclysms could erase much of the evidence. There’s more to it than that but it’s part of it. Lots of people say these past civilizations had tech that would rival or surpass what we have in terms of energy production and vehicles but the far more down to earth theorists believe these ancient civilizations had a little bit of technology and that the world was far more interconnected than we currently think. This would be before the yunger dryas period
@@MrSlayerboy99 So... what are you saying? That perhaps there was a conspiracy to hide human advancement, by humans?
@@renman3000 did you watch the first 5 mins and form your conclusion. Take your head for a wobble
There was this one time…down in New Mexico…
O evidence, just a lot of cool stories. Love it ! its like the south park history channel episode
They didn’t pop up, they continued where they left off. More or less.
How old are the Longyou caves? Teh brass maks are definitely alien-looking.
Why it took so long . It takes that much time to evolve a brain. It works at different speeds at different time . We just blossomed again. Different races are at different levels as we speak right now . Social media and the ability to travel will make races move forward at a closer rate .Races take the best of other cultures and change to the better . Evolution
i love sci fi stories!
Very interesting hypothesis. One thing about it, just as interesting as the different religions, Darwinism and the Big Bang. Worth a listen and study. Picking up your books, Graham.
He the only one that makes sense
Not to overlook I presume a strong academic background, but can this guy not just read anthropology and fill in most of these gaps himself...?
Ahem... you're welcome, humans. No, we're not going to tell you how. Just be thankful that we did.
@@XyzzyYzzyx so are you an extraterrestrial of some kind?
It’s entertainment. He’s asking questions that can’t be answered. Fun!
Graham rules!
Just an FYI, its a common tactic that once you've been embarrassed publicly, as Graham was by Dibble, its a deceitful tactic to "vanish for a time," then go on a rehabilitation tour, which Graham is currently doing. Graham must have a LOT of money riding on the new season of his Netflix show. And I suspect Graham and Joe colluded to "over analyze" any misstatements Dibble made during the debate. Fact is, sure Dibble made a few misstatements (which he addressed over a month ago), but they did not take away from the fact that there's no evidence of a lost civilization. Graham even goes as far as to say carbon dating is not accurate. For some reason, Rogan and others are allowing Graham to continue his grift of making money on the backs of wasting everyone else's time with theories he knows are likely not true. There's a theory that the Titanic did not sink, but her sister ship, the Olympic. Yet they located the ID numbers on the propellers. Yet that doesnt stop the grifters from grifting and making money off of the gullible. Sad time.
You start off with a subjective statement, implying it was factual. Then you proceed to make an analogy that has no bearing on archaeology. Every time people like you post, it comes across as religious fervor. You people never make specific statements about an issue but make sweeping generalizations and throw out ad hominems. Archaeology is a discipline tainted by cognitive bias. It's a bunch of children trying to explain a far more complex world than they will ever know. But, hey, you get to sound pretentious and pompous on the internet. What a great life you have.
@@jvaish What i said is true.
@@NickB1121 I have no doubt you believe that
@@jvaish I wouldn't even bother mate, some people are so caught up in agendas and their personal feelings to even hear what is being said.
I watched that divvle video... if you think dibble came out on top there, you're insane. I don't agree with Hancock, but that Dubble guy is a self agrandizing moron. It's like watching absolute lunatics who had their brains fried by college - Hasan piker, vaush, etc - go up against just a normal person or an actual professional.
Why is Lex taking this guy seriously and not pushing back at all?
Pushing back in what way 🤔?
@@v4panigale26Lol. I guess Ancient Aliens makes sense to you too.
Staying consistent with his Kushner chat.
By the same token you have to ask yourself why would anyone take you seriously?
@@j0elvill
False equivalency.
lol like I'm ever going to take the word of someone who doesn't even know what a scientific theory is. I expect the general public to use the word "theory" to mean a guess or an idea but not someone who claims to speak for science.
It’s not lost it’s hidden
I’m still not sure why it is puzzling?
Because it flies in the face of the story I grew up being told was true.
The impression I got growing up was that everything there was to discover pretty much already had been... it felt like I was living at the end of history and the unexpected....
Anything which did not fit with the prevailing story or history was just laughed at... the figures of history were pedastalized and defied like Christ, making them into something which we could never measure to, compare, or recreate....
I grew up before everyone had the internet wherever they went... the narrative seemed much more "real" and impermeable back then... like a magic spell or mass psychosis
It’s not. He’s a knucklehead
@@Havre_Chithra fair enough, probably a different understanding than I had. That was we always had gaps in the human evolutionary path and that those would be filled as more fossil evidence is being unearthed. There’s still much to discover and also allow that the majority of living things don’t fossilise after death.
@@Havre_Chithra But nobody had found Gobekli Tepe then had they
@TheOtherKine It was found shortly after I was born but it didn't make it into the books and the internet didn't really exist like does now (within the last 10-15 years with public wifi and smartphones)
wish he would just answered the question .
The aliens told bob lazar about this stuff. Listening to how bob talks he clearly knows more than he’s letting us to believe
At 1.19mins Graham Hancock said the we carry Neanderthal genes. ( Meaning?)
We share about 1% to 2% of our D.N.A. with NEANDERTHALS. (What does this mean?)
We share 98% of our D.N.A. with CHIMPANZEES (What does this mean?)
We share 70% of our D.N.A with SLUGS - (What does this mean?)
We share 50% of our D.N.A. with BANANAS. (What does this mean?)
Nikola tesla videos brought me here. Somehow
How much did Rogan force Fridman to platform this nutbar? Gross. Podcasts are done now that’s enough
If you get your scientific information from a netflix series? Well then bless your heart
😂
Oh do you read the scientific papers yourself? And not only the abstract but the entire thing?
@@runswithraptors your projecting .
@runswithraptors sometimes but not all the times
If you get your education from systems seeded and fed by known liars and propagandists, your heart is blessed.
Drinking Game - take a shot every time Graham says "Younger Dryas"
O.G It Is Important & I Would Like To Talk With U In New Zealand As Soon As U Can Get Here Irl (My Friend) I Can Get More Knowledge From A Legit God To Help Us Understand More. (Off Camera) 🙂
science fiction.
am ne zee ya
To the people with insane levels of money: Can you please fund this guy just to see if any of this can be proved?
I think he says controversial things he might not actually believe in order to make that bread . Perhaps
6:00 maybe we could not create a civilization with all the mega phauna beeings running around 😂 only when they went extinct we could make easier progress 🤷🏻♂️😄
Hell yea lex
Just because someone if pitifully wrong doesn't mean they're "controversial." GH isn't that influential.
Wait til he hears about the Cambrian explosion 😁
he got lost
There are a few logical explanations that don't involve civilization being advanced before the younger dryus thing.
Peoples could have had some agriculture, tech and small groupings but we're stagnant for thousands of years because humans are, and or it's hard to gather and progress until, and if chance makes it available. An extinction event and or resources and or new ideas could have sparked new progress that just took off.
IDK the answer or who's right, but knowing humans, I can definitely see us being little more than survivors for 200k years.
Shit, most of us just sit on our hands today. Everyone says we've made so much progress in 1000 or 500 years, but I say we've barely done shit more than live in a cave compared to what we're capable of.
May the fourth be with me.
I get stoned to listen
i bet uluru, was once a pyramid
Thats just Smart water speaking
Meh, not worth listening to.
One piece ahh theory , lost advanced civilization . From the graham hancock related to boa Hancock. Look it up