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- Graham Hancock, formerly a foreign correspondent for "The Economist," has been an international bestselling author for more than 30 years with a series of books, notably "Fingerprints of the Gods," "Magicians of the Gods" and "America Before," which investigate the controversial possibility of a lost civilization of the Ice Age destroyed in a global cataclysm some 12,000 years ago. Graham is the presenter of the hit Netflix documentary series "Ancient Apocalypse."
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Flint Dibble is an archaeologist at Cardiff University who has conducted field work and laboratory analyses around the Mediterranean region from Stone Age caves to Egyptian tombs to Greek and Roman cities. Flint enjoys sharing archaeology - from the nitty gritty to the grand - with people around the world. Subscribe to his TH-cam channel, "Archaeology with Flint Dibble," or follow him on X/Twitter for behind-the-scenes deep dives into 21st century archaeology.
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Links for donations to:
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the Council for British Archaeology: www.archaeologyuk.org/support...
the Society for American Archaeology: ecommerce.saa.org/saa/Member/...
Grahams argument is basically that you can’t rule it out, and the archeologist is saying we have no evidence. Just saved you 4 hours
Yeah that pretty much sums it up, you can appeal to the unknown because it hasn’t been directly disproven with anything but it does mean you’re making an impactful or meaningful thought/statement
An archeologist with hands like he just came back from a beauty salon. Flint dibble is the prime example of woke man child throwing tantrums because people see it different than him. I couldnt watch longer than 30 minutes. What an unbearable manchild.
Shouldn't that be a key indicator of the difference of actual exploring and evidence gathering between both Graham and Dibble. Graham legit broke his own wallet to explore probably 10x more sites hands on than dibble.
Can't rule it out nor can you rule it in based on nothing as a catalyst. Graham has as much evidence for it as aliens or leprechauns.
Millions of people watching a 4 hour debate on archaeology like its the next Tyson fight is what JRE is all about.
and its not even too hard of a debate its like ‘i have a british accent and i believe atlantis ruled the world during the ice age’ vs ‘im an actual archaeologist and my dad was an archaeologist and were not censoring this guy’
@@Ninja1Ninja2fully!!! ❤
We need the next debate to be Cadance Owens VS Ben Sharipo on Isreal
Yes Bro, plus we really enjoyed it.
100% agree brother!!
The fact that so many people watch a 4 hour debate about archeology gives me hope for my species
Why? Why is archeology superior to other types of entertainment?
Archeology stuff is just as meaningless as watching the kardashians if you don't work with this stuff.
@@RunescapeWhack lol, as meaningless as the kardashians? Ok I’ll let you keep that theory lol
That’s good because we’ll be the study of it after we’re buried under nuclear ash
@@RunescapeWhack
Whether you work in archaeology or not it will continue to be interesting centuries from now, simply because a lot of people are interested in history, especially ancient history.
On the other hand if the Kardashians are even remembered centuries from now it will only be by historians scratching their heads over the attraction to people living today - wondering if we all had brain worms.
@@mnomadvfx thats how you give value to stuff? How long it will last? Enjoyment is momentary. You can't judge something like this. With your logic the love you have for you wife/family means nothing bacause it won't last for centuries
Grahams: Flint, you dive?
Flint: I snorkel.
The better one was : have u ver been there no but I know all about it
Im going to steal both of y'all's comments, sort of. Lol. Thanks for the laugh
My man Flint spent 4 and a half hours not moving his neck so he could wear the headphones like that. All so he could wear that Indiana Jones hat. That's commitment
Lmao
hes really insecure about himself obviously
😂
I like this guy.
That's what a dibble would do
Jamie, pull up Flint Dibble’s sleeves.
Goddammit 😆
I personally think Flint took Graham to the wood shed during this podcast, but that comment is golden 😂
I laughed for five minutes at his sleeves....and the hat, really........
@@dennisfields8043 Should have worn some TapOut attire with a tribal tattoo and a Harley Davison bandana
@@Ktmfan450or a feather boa and a bedazzled bikini? Dorks are just dorks dude. I'm a nerd, I own it. I'm not trying to arm wrestle anyone. But, humans have eyeballs and brains that interpret things around them. I saw a dork. What did you see?
Flint Dibble is his dad’s biggest fan.
Easily lol
Flint Dibble is wearing his dad's biggest shirt.
Wouldn't you if you were passionate about what your father did and were inspired by his work to follow in his footsteps? I think that's very wholesome.
that's based though
Every man should have pride in their father and lineage in general
"Why the fuck would I want to go there when it was fucking FROZEN"
Hancock v Dibble: The battle for the HDMI
And fumbling for reading glasses…
“The Archeological Altercation of the Century!”
😂
🤣🤣🤣
We already know Randall got the interim cable
2 hours in and I'm now fairly convinced nerd battles should become a regular feature on JRE
sad to see so much hate for flint , hes just honest and gets shit on in these comment section.
Flint is in my eyes credible since he trys to educate while grahame and rogan just want to believe.
i would wish there was an ancient lost human civilazation but i was there and my brain told me is no source ....
Wait, why are they “nerds”?
@@GardenofEdens he behaved like a snake and a petulant child. You can agree or disagree with both of their view points but his behaviour was disgusting
@@GardenofEdens He's an odd bird, but his heart is in the right place.
@@GardenofEdens Your entire comment is written in bad faith. You claim Graham and Rogan just want to believe, while Flint merely wants to educate. Yet during the video Graham presents ample evidence and points to back up his point of view, while Flint refuses (repeatedly) to even consider the points Graham is bringing up, treating them with ridicule and disdain (as he did when Graham started showing examples of underwater monuments). Graham also pointed out how the archeological community (and this smoothly translates to science communities at large) stifled and stomped out any opposition to their maintained views, ignoring evidence from their fellow members who were later proven right. They merely wanted to educate, just like Flint here does. There's a special place in the afterlife for folks like yourself.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:56 *🎓 Flint discusses his goal to demystify the process and purpose of Archaeology.*
02:18 *🖼️ Joe Rogan describes an Athenian artifact, leading to a discussion on the misconceptions about historical artworks and their cultural implications.*
04:25 *🛰️ The conversation covers the use of advanced technology like lasers and aerial surveys in Archaeology to discover and analyze archaeological sites.*
14:20 *📚 Flint advocates for open data in Archaeology, mentioning the availability of millions of archaeological records to researchers and the public.*
18:17 *🛠️ Flint refutes the possibility of a metallurgical civilization in the Ice Age based on the absence of metallurgical emissions in ice core samples.*
19:28 *🚢 Flint questions the absence of shipwrecks from the purported global civilization, arguing that substantial archaeological exploration of submerged areas would have uncovered such evidence if it existed.*
20:49 *🚢 Joe Rogan discusses the exceptional preservation of the Ernest Shackleton shipwreck, emphasizing the potential for ancient artifacts to remain intact underwater in cold conditions.*
22:13 *🌀 Flint references research on hurricane effects on archaeological sites, suggesting that natural disasters do not necessarily disrupt underwater archaeological sites significantly.*
31:48 *🇨🇱 Graham discusses the Monte Verde site in Chile, which presented evidence of human settlement predating the Clovis culture, and the initial resistance it faced from the archaeological community.*
34:50 *📺 Graham addresses the controversy surrounding his Netflix series and the response from the Society for American Archaeology, illustrating the tension between mainstream archaeology and alternative historical narratives.*
37:54 *🏜️ Graham questions the extent of archaeological exploration in the Sahara, suggesting that significant discoveries could still be made in largely unexplored areas.*
43:56 *🗺️ Graham Hancock discusses exploring underwater structures globally, guided by local knowledge, illustrating the potential for undiscovered archaeological sites.*
45:45 *🌊 Hancock argues that the submerged rock structures he has explored were shaped by humans, not natural processes, based on over 200 dives at the site.*
44:49 *🏛️ Graham details diving in a man-made tunnel in Japan with visible megalithic structures, asserting its artificial origin.*
47:05 *🔍 After a dive, a geologist admits to Graham that certain underwater structures could not have been formed naturally.*
49:55 *🌍 Graham argues for the necessity of more archaeological investigations in unexplored areas like the Sahara, Amazon, and submerged continental shelves.*
51:34 *📏 Flint highlights the extensive coverage and data collected through required archaeological surveys in developed countries, though he acknowledges it's not perfect.*
54:06 *🤨 Robert Schoch’s changing opinion on Yonaguni is discussed, indicating the complexity and debate surrounding the site’s origins.*
01:05:55 *🌱 Flint Dibble highlights the development of agriculture in South America as a marker for tracing civilization progress.*
01:11:56 *🗺️ Flint counters the notion that archaeology has neglected potential submerged sites by presenting extensive evidence of underwater surveys.*
01:26:11 *📊 Flint discusses the shift in archaeology towards big data, highlighting its role in understanding historical lifestyles and individual survival stories.*
01:26:24 *🌊 Graham Hancock reiterates the underexplored nature of submerged continental shelves, suggesting that insufficient study makes it premature to dismiss the possibility of lost civilizations.*
01:27:35 *🌐 Graham uses inundation maps to point out the historical existence of large islands like the Grand Bahama Banks, which were above water until about 6,900 years ago, as potential sites of ancient human activity.*
01:36:24 *🛤️ Flint shares his experience with archaeological road excavations in Romania, using them as an example to discuss the preservation of artifacts and their context in understanding ancient roadways.*
02:00:18 *🤔 The conversation shifts to the ethics of archaeological interpretation and the portrayal of research in media, exploring how public and academic perceptions are shaped.*
02:04:13 *🧠 Flint clarifies his statements regarding the misinterpretation of his views on racial implications in archaeology, emphasizing the importance of context in academic discussions.*
02:09:47 *🗞️ Hancock criticizes the influence of certain academics on media, claiming they misrepresent his work, contributing to a negative and hostile reception in the public and academic realms.*
02:12:07 *🔍 Discussion shifts to academic freedom and the perceived hostility within archaeology towards alternative theories, with Hancock citing historical examples of academic resistance to new ideas.*
02:15:34 *🌐 Flint discusses the impact of public engagement on social media and the misunderstandings that can arise from public and academic interactions online.*
02:30:03 *🔄 Hancock suggests that significant cultural narratives can be transformed within a single generation through deliberate changes imposed by conquerors, creating entirely different historical narratives.*
02:33:58 *📅 Joe Rogan and Hancock discuss the historical impact of colonization on indigenous beliefs, suggesting that conquerors often try to reshape the cultural narratives of the people they dominate.*
02:40:36 *🏺 Hancock searches for specific examples of remote sensing data from the Gung Padang site to support his claims of advanced prehistoric civilization, demonstrating the challenges of presenting complex archaeological data in a public forum.*
02:52:01 *🏛️ Dibble argues that rapid, intense destruction, like that from natural disasters, can paradoxically preserve archaeological evidence rather than destroy it.*
03:02:28 *🌾 Discussion shifts to agriculture, with Dibble explaining the archaeological process for identifying domesticated plants and discussing the evolutionary pressures that lead to domestication.*
03:05:00 *🌱 Dibble elaborates on the gradual domestication process, highlighting how human cultivation practices inadvertently selected for plant traits beneficial for agriculture.*
03:13:03 *🌽 Presentation of an ancient maize cob from 1250 AD illustrates the significant changes in plant size due to human selection over centuries.*
03:15:09 *🚜 Introduction of a "Neolithic package" in Europe around 6400 BC, including multiple domesticated plants and animals, marks a significant technological transfer.*
03:37:57 *🧪 Geochemical analysis links pyramid construction materials to specific quarry sites, reinforcing the dating and sourcing of the materials.*
03:38:54 *🌊 Debates the interpretation of erosion patterns on the Sphinx, discussing whether they could be definitively linked to water erosion from a specific prehistoric period.*
03:40:04 *🌐 Advocacy for considering geological and traditional evidence in evaluating the history and age of the Sphinx and surrounding structures.*
03:53:43 *🌌 The depiction of the "churning of the Milky Ocean" at Angkor Wat, Cambodia, symbolizes the astronomical process of precession, linking mythology with celestial movements.*
03:54:26 *🌅 Angkor Wat's alignment during the Spring Equinox, where the sun rises directly over the central tower, exemplifies precise ancient engineering intended to mark astronomical events.*
03:56:06 *🌍 The base perimeter and height of the Great Pyramid, when multiplied by a precessional number, correspond closely to the Earth's equatorial circumference and polar radius, respectively.*
03:57:12 *🌞 The Sphinx's alignment with the rising sun during the Spring Equinox further supports the theory of its astronomical significance.*
03:58:05 *🦁 The alignment of the Sphinx with the constellation Leo approximately 12,600 years ago during the "Age of Leo" suggests an epoch-specific construction or significance.*
04:00:25 *🌟 The shafts within the Great Pyramid align with the stars of Orion's belt as they appeared in the sky around 2500 BC, demonstrating an intentional celestial alignment.*
04:14:35 *🏺 The discussion emphasizes the danger of becoming a 'lost civilization' due to ignoring cultural and historical preservation.*
04:15:03 *🛡️ Addressing threats like looting and the importance of funding for site protection is highlighted as critical for preserving archaeological sites.*
04:16:38 *🌾 Discusses the slow adaptation to climate change in ancient civilizations as a warning to modern societies to better prepare for environmental changes.*
04:20:05 *🕊️ Proposes that embracing a diversity of methodologies could enrich understanding of history, suggesting that mainstream and alternative researchers share common goals.*
04:21:40 *🗣 Highlights the importance of direct communication in resolving disputes and misunderstandings, particularly in academic and scientific contexts.*
Made with ❤ for the work Joe Rogan, Graham Hancock and Flint Dibble are conducting.
Made with AI*
Thank you so much for this meticulous breakdown of the conversation.
I can smell the AI a mile away buddy.
Neat-O ☺️
Urgh I was gunna complement him too!@@KumarAnshs
3:18:00 this seals the deal... When I was a kid, I was a big fan of Nessie. But when biologists surveyed the loch and explained there wouldn't be enough fish to sustain a population of big animals in the loch, it immediately ceased to make sense to me.
There has never been someone who has looked more like their name than Flint Dibble.
Nature/nurture both. I feel like he molded and grew into that name as well.
And he dabbles with flint.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
He looks like he rIdes one of those old timey bikes with the big front wheel
@@almiller1371 +1
You have to give this archeologist some respect for going on the podcast to actually have this conversation rather than just completely ignore and dismiss Graham.
yea he needed to promote his sponsors and get some publicity... nothing was achieved here apart from some obviously much needed publicity for both guests...
@@6ftSwhat did you expect to be achived?
Nah Dibble is silly he is using BS evidence that Graham doesn’t know about eg moving Egyptian statues and cutting rock, that was 100% a lie. Ben from UnchartedX will respond I hope to put him in his place
@@AA11AA11AAwhy is it bullshit evidence? It’s evidence
Until he said in an article that ideas Graham puts forth are harmful and align with the idea of white supremacy. Dude’s a fool
An engineer desperately needs to design a pair of glasses for Graham Hancock that can change lenses without having to switch them every time he changes depths
One already has, they’re called progressive trifocals.
The Atlanteans would have totally had that covered.
Jamie, pull up Benjamin Franklin
I felt so bad watching him do that, I always thought that was the point of bifocals?
Joe had to teach Graham how to scroll down the page. My man’s not very good with understanding these things
I’m going as Flint Dibble for Halloween.
Duncan Trussell's disguises are getting better and better.
Oooooh shit i see it now XD
Underrated Comment Budd, Kudos.
You won the internet today!🏆
So funny 😁
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
graham intensely fighting with his 3 pairs of glasses is the greatest subplot ever
🤣
Modern day sage problems
💀
Between that and the headphones.
😂
This and the other Hancock / Carlson debate with Schermer are my 2 favorite episodes of JRE
Joe’s closing statement was so on point and a great way to close the convo
joe is a moron on this subject, lets review, this is a clown who thought the moon landing was a hoax.
This is so much better than the stand up comedian guests
Ouch. Hot take there. I love both equally but differently and that's why JRE is the best podcast in the world.
Some of the comedian guests turn my terrible day 180⁰ around btw. There's no replacing comedy.
so sick of hearing from those same old jackasses
Lol
I agree always enjoy the scientific talks or people in their field of experience....but still enjoy the occasional funny guest
Lemme get an ounce of Purple Kush, and half ounce of that Flint Dibble.
Gives you the Flint Dribbles though.
@@GenuinelyCurious120I have someone to catch my dribbles ,sir.
Thank you for this. It gave me a good laugh.
Graham Hancock has main stream archaeolgy rolled up in a joint
Definitely a hybrid.... 30/70 indica/sativa
I would love to see these two come on again with Randall Carlson as well
YESSS!!!
Randall’s too busy getting duped by that scammer Malcolm Bendall
So there could be 2 people saying nuh uh to an archeologist about archeology. That's not how these conversations should go IMO.
this episode belongs in a museum!
Damn, the Olympic levels of mental acrobatics between Flint and Graham to not insult each other were insane
Flint was very insulting the entire time
Like a bunch of juvenile children 😂 surprised they didn't come to limp slaps
@@SirBobbyDuncanI doubt either of them would want to be restrained by Joe 😂
"I eluded to the fact you were a racist and the fact you're calling me out on it, on one of the worlds largest platforms really is bs, I wanted a civil conversation" 😂 maybe don't say shit like that and get upset when you get called out tf @satturatedphat
It’s finally completed: th-cam.com/video/n4rDvjvyiM0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NBsBbCBAEsOlQiW_
Rogan's back on youtube, Graham is back on Rogan. All is well with the world once again
Feels like the good old times innit
TH-cam rogan is the best rogan
Holoway
accurate
Spotify subs dropping off, he was gonna lose that contract renegotiation position
I've not seen a man quote his Daddy so many times in many, many years.
You haven't seen Eric or don
Daddy used to say this is normal 😂😂😂
So what, he loves his dad. Thats great, we shouldnt resent hik for that
@russellmason5095
0 seconds ago
Not since Jesus. : D
@@joshburns5229 Literally rent free
That’s nice of Mr. Dibble to let his son borrow one of his suits for such a big occasion
Mr Dibble senior passed away some years ago
It is 5pm on the 20th of April. 3.4million people have just watched an archaeology debate. This is why Joe Rogan is the goat 🐐
Exactly!
I surmise by your time stamp you are in Britain Scotland or Ireland, perhaps Spain or Portugal. Thanks for your comment. I concur :)
Yeah, because only people from the same time zone watch this, right? 😂
Where you from bro it’s 2.53 p.m est. on the 20th of april
You from the future 😂😂😂😂
Flint Dibble is a real life South Park character 😂
Right?
Stuart you're so damn right. Was watching and was like gotta see the comments on this guy.
How is this comment not top-liked
Manbearpig = Climate change
Flint blocked me on Twitter for calling him a coward for not debating Graham 4 months ago
Yes, old age affects my vision, too. Anyone fortunate enough to get old will know. Lasik, cataract surgeries help, but it’s a constant problem. I sometimes take pics and enlarge repeatedly to see details better.
Love Graham clinging to "but they haven't excavated the whole desert" in response to Flint's "they don't need to excavate to survey, because it's a desert"
Hahaha. Yep, he just sounded stupid.
Wait isn’t excavating different from surveying? When you survey you’re looking at the surface level and excavating is looking under the surface sometimes very deep.
@@mosesszi2281 I'm using survey to mean carefully and thoroughly examine rather than as in surveying land. With modern technologies, you don't really need to excavate to know what is very deep under the surface, and Graham knows that (because he has collaborated with people using these techniques in lieu of excavation), but it seems like he's clinging to specifically excavation because he knows that the small amount of it that's been done makes it seem like the desert has barely been investigated.
seems like he hopes to find these things and Flint is saying we have no way to prove there’s anything there.
@@bloodaonadeline8346 I think it's more that there is simply not enough evidence in Flint's eyes to make as definitive claims as Graham routinely makes. The contemporary, preceeding, and proceeding archaeological evidence for the timeframes Graham claims that his culture would have existed in simply do not reflect what would be seen if his claims held water.
Most of Graham's evidence is a lack, or "these geological features _seem as if_ they were manmade". Surely if there was some great culture who'd achieved the things Graham claims, they'd've left some remnant instead of being miraculously lost as Graham seems to think has happened.
It's surprising how entertaining it can be to listen to two grown men argue about rocks.
But the two men aren't arguing.
rock solid jre
"They're not rocks! They're geodes!"
It's about our shared common history.
"Mr.Borelli you're such a fantastic moron, it's terrifying "
“Jamie pull up the location of Atlantis”
Jamie pull up my pants haha
laughing ....yes jamie
🤣
(finds irrefutable proof) 😂
😂😂😂 duuuude
I've never seen a more Flint Dibble looking Flint Dibble.
Fuckin A
This was a really interesting debate thank you for sharing. I'd also like to say the closing remarks were wonderful!!! Thank you all so much!!!
UFC 304
Dibble vs Hancock
For the Lost Civilization Belt
The real bmf championship xD
We don’t put on “gimmick” fights
Lmfaoooooo I’d put money on graham
Graham will beat that nerd senseless..
Graham would "Conor/Aldo" this dude 💪
Naming your new born child Flint Dibble, gives it a 98% chance of it becoming an archeologist.
An archeologist right out of the Flintstone’s.
Careful, we have some elitist hurt egos in the comments 😅
And virgin until 30
@@TheDeven1000 hahaha 😂 💯
I think it’s a pretty cool name.
That's why Joe Rogan is Joe Rogan! Best podcast in the world!💯🌏❤️
This is classic Joe Rogan podcast
Jamie worked his ass off on this episode. 🤣
I found myself actually feeling bad for him at one point, Im like ‘omg he’s probably so stressed and annoyed rn’ hahahah
@@KelsoNeedy idk what he gets paid, but he needs double for this episode!
@@YosoyTez I’m sure he already makes plentyyy. Make that boy work for his money, damn it! lol idk
@@YosoyTezhe gets a lot of episodes off when it's just a bunch of comedians getting drunk and high though.
Jamie performs heroics!
Get these 2 guys a comedy show where they visit sites together 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣i'd pay such good money to watch these two both being forced to visit sites together, with nobody for company but each other
@@addyn25 peak comedy
"One's an archaeologist, the other's a journalist and they can't stand each other. We've sent them around the world to some of the most famous archaeological sites to duke it out and determine fact versus fantasy. Will they be able to come to a consensus or will this journey of discovery descend into chaos. Coming soon to Netflix: Between a Flint & a Hard Place."
That image made my day :DDDDDD
YESSSS
This show showed me so much and the conversation was heated at times but warming listening to disagreement’s come together at the end. Great show boys😜💪🏻
I suggest you to debate about the Barabar "caves" in India. It would be interesting to hear Flint Dibble debate this.
4 1/2 hour archeology debate gets 1.6 *million* views overnight. I'm so thankful that Joe Rogan found his audience and that they found him.
"They" so you come to talk? Are you not apart?
it found you. That's how it works these days.
I wish this was about archeology lmao it's about these dudes personal beef
He was a very sane 3rd party and pushed at the right times.
Exactly. Thank god for independent media, otherwise Dibble and his ilk will keep silencing these revolutionary researchers. Makes you ask, what the fuck are these people trying to hide?
Fascinating how Joe was screaming the night before in the octagon and now having an academic conversation about lost civilizations
An absolute legend
Alpha brain on overtime
Fr! Lmfao
Joe is a Unicorn in this society man. Beast. Legend. Dude.
This podcast was done days before the fights. They edited it and then released
So happy they did this.. Graham is the Man. And big shoutout to Flint for pulling up.. Win for everybody
nah, Graham definitely took the L here
@raoulduke7668 yeah he did but what do you expect no real evidence just what if.... it sells just look at the history Chanel took over by aliens. Now archeological is taken over by advanced civilization
@@raoulduke7668 how? Flint answers questions like a politician deflecting in any way he can … even if he’s right his glaring bias discredits anything he says.
Graham is a lowlife grifter. his fans are idiots who watch fake wrestling.
Rogan would be the best debate moderator of all time
yeah, bring him to the Biden vs Trump debate, if sleepy Joe will decide to have it, and Rogan will be like 10x better moderator than any tv host. He has his views, but is able to me neutral.
@@Sig509half the time would be spent trying to decipher what Biden is blubbering about.
Joe must have consumed 50 alpha brain tablets before this episode
Hahahahahahahahahahahaahagahahahahha
Plus elk meat and some lions Mane mushrooms
10 pieces of neurogum throughout
He boofed them for max absorption.
At least
Presidential debates should be done on this show moving forward.
I’ll buy the uppers so Biden can stay awake
Absolutely! The bs we have now with timers and the msm leading and cutting people off, this format would be so much better. Much more genuine.
@@bdr3386 And I'll buy the childhood trauma therapy sessions so Trump can somehow backtrack from becoming a Sociopath
i have a question, so basically now full episodes are loaded on TH-cam? before all i saw was clips from the full show on Spotify.
Yes full episodes @lcfflc3887
Graham is basically saying "I never said there's a conspiracy against me! 😡 I'm just saying archaeologists are banding together to ignore and dismiss evidence that I present and slander me to perpetuate their agenda" like that's not the exact same thing. Just because he doesn't use the word conspiracy doesn't mean he isn't calling it a conspiracy.
Graham's argument: There was an ancient advanced ice age civilisation, though I have no concrete evidence of it nor an exact location. And if you haven't searched every square inch of the planet to disprove me, my theory remains correct.
Rogan is incredibly fair in this debate. I am really impressed because he’s obviously such a huge friend and fan of Hancock but Joe holds Hancock accountable and questions him in the same way as Flint, and is very open to listening to the evidence from both sides.
Nah, goy Jo loves Hancock aliens DMT theories
Graham had no evidence.
@@olemanyounger5040 exactly he even confessed it during the episode.
Pics that "look like" stuff is not evidence ffs, thats exactly whar science is about. There is no "looks like", evidence and conclusions are verifiably testable, if they canr be tested then its a hypothesis. Graham has no evidence
Joe dished some nasty blows to each of them.
Like that one was funny: 1:06:50 "I don't think it's the computer's problem".
I would LOVE to see a tv series where these two go out on archaeological expeditions together and all the conflicts they face 😂
Flint doesn't like to go outside, he just looks at photos
... you could make a romantic comedy along those lines.
I was almost certain one would kill the other after this. 😂😂😂 regardless that would be gold, some good western staredown type ish
They would have learn from each other a lot
Against all odds, they learn to appreciate eachothers' differences. Rated PG13.
PLEASE! Do this now with Stephen Meyer and Dr Ken Miller! 🙏 the Kitzmiller vs Dover trial would be the best follow up of all time!
I love how, since JRE returned to youtube, this is the 3rd most viewed episode behind only Katt Williams and Tucker Carlson 👏
I’m so glad Joe waited until we had a comments section again to air this episode.
when did the comments disappear 👀?
Spotify buddy
Take it easy chief @@ssumeddead
@@_Bryant.R I'm not your chief, buddyguy
@@ULTRAVISTA.I’m not you buddy guy, PAL!
I got about 17 seconds into the interview on Spotify, saw the Indiana Jones hat and immediately closed it and came to watch it on TH-cam JUST FOR the comments, and boy I was not disappointed 😂
Same 😂
I really thought they were gonna flame flint dibble harder, lmao.😂The dude looks like he smells his own farts.
Unfortunately, I got way further than that before I shut it off and came here for the video. Boy was I surprised at how this man looks! The voice did not give it away! 😂
Men of culture, gather round …
Poor guy needs to lose his virginity.
Finally got to the end I love the awareness this brings to the issues facing archaeology even in large well funded public universities archaeology is incredibly underfunded!
Tough dive because of insane water currents. That could explain that stone hendge style underwater structure
We need far more of these scientific debates.
A climate change debate would be good
This wasn't a scientific debate. It was a scientist wasting 4 hours on trying to prove a hack wrong. You can't prove someone wrong when they themselves don't even have any evidence for what they claim. Anyone who gives Hancock any time to speak publicly is doing humanity a disservice.
@@29memyselfandithe climatology expert from Texas Joe had a while back destroyed all the arguments of the climate skeptics.
Graham never has any evidence and he always has that tone of talking down to you.
@@yj9032 I didn’t see that. Regardless it’s always good to have both sides putting their ideas across- it’s easy to sound convincing when no one is there to challenge what you’re saying.
This is Zack Galifianakis’s best performance since Baskets.
It's not Zack, its Mini-Zack
Zack with aids
@@kennadyyoung8237 Mini-Zack destroys Mini-Claudio Ranieri
You would have gotten more likes if you wrote: "Best performance since Due Date".
His twin brother was up for the role until Zach swooped in last minute
34:4412 st peter's basilica was build over a temple, which was initially build over a Roman tomb, and that place is massive. It wasn't destroyed but rather buried under huge amounts of earth. It was discovered by a bishop.
Why won’t Flint make eye contact with Graham?
Scared / intimidated
Better yet, why does he never turn his head, he simply swivels with the chair. I don't think he turned his head once the entire time.
Why does he have to?
@@jo77183 It is bad stance which shows he is a weak beta rat
He's locked in with the hat & the headphones combo
To Flint, Graham, and Joe: thank you so much for doing this. This is the type of discussion that the internet desperately needs.
I can’t tell if you’re joking but I genuinely enjoy this content.
Yea, but now I can’t go on believing some ancient advanced civilization, and feel like I wasted my time watching ancient apocalypse.
Graham kind of a fake scientist.
“You’re a tourist, I dig”
Yeah….no
As someone who's drank ayahuasca, and undergoing the deep philosophical questions this journey requires... my man in the hat clearly has not.
I therefore find anything he has to say completely irrelevant.
Call me biased ... but his tone of voice is not authentic
@@and__lam1152 You did an ayahuasca trip so evidence for things is now invalid? What are you talking about
3.6 million views in 4 days and still counting for a 4 hour debate on archaeology is insane in a good way.
That's not including Spotify and the other platforms
so now they load the full shows here? before it was only like 10 to 20 minutes clips.
@@lcfflc3887 yeah full episodes are back.
16.5 million by 4/21 on TH-cam alone. This is huge
Plenty of educational TH-camrs get 10 million + views per video. People wanna learn, that never went away. Dumb people are just louder.
One thing Joe gets wrong is the idea that the ancient Egyptians stand out as being completely unlike anything else from the time period. The civilizations of the middle east were also building grand monuments. For example, the Great Ziggurat of Ur was built about 4100 years ago, and was estimated at 210 feet (64m) in length, 150 feet (46m) in width and over 100 feet (30m) in height. This isn't as big as the Great Pyramid but it's in the same order of magnitude. The smaller (but still massive) Anu ziggurat at Uruk was constructed almost 2000 years earlier than that, around 4000 BCE.
And don't forget the Olmec's Great Pyramid of La Venta and the Mausoleum of the First Qin Emperor. Although coming much later, they were built by cultures who hadn't developed agriculture until a couple thousand years after the people of Egypt and the middle east.
if the sphinx is that much older then it aligning with its leo counterpart starsign in the sky doesnt make sense as the starsigns were a babylonian system introduced in the ptolemaic period (around roman times) apparently but idk
It should be mandatory for presidential candidates to debate the opposition on Rogan.
I just had this exact thought.
Jamie pull up the chart of the inflammation rate
@@DH-. inflation rate* lmao
@@itzspartan5524inflammation rate 😂😂😂 wait, let him cook lmao
Trump wont even do a normal debate with 2 minute answers so good luck
Everyone in this podcast gave their best. Joe was great host asking good questions, Jamie managed to find all the pictures while handling that hdmi cable, Graham fought three pairs of glasses and Flint kept his hat on without breaking his neck or headphones.
This episode should go in history as one of the best.
Bro thank you for this comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"old age is a bitch" - Graham Hancock
The UFC of Archeology !!
My reviews is Graham prepared to face up that sneaky online trolls that got him canceled, at this point in life he still got the energy and patience for the airdrops and glasses. Flint clearly is need much more rock dibbling to do and maybe less woke and more dibbling and have little bit of optimising. Make archeology interesting again. Having Joe as a referee is always good in this kinda exchange of energy , and Jamie is i think lost the most calories!!
This comment is probably even MORE hilarious then this episode. Well done my friend.
It seems like the only logical point Graham has to make is that "We should be doing more to excavate the Sahara desert and land that was exposed during the ice-age.". Otherwise it seems like all of his 'discoveries' are based on intrigue and things apparently seeming suspicious. Flint actually makes the best and definitive point that "We would find other types of evidence if humans actually inhabited these areas". Grahams logic seems to be based on supposed purpose of archaeological finds, while Flint's is actually based on the actual materials that they find.
Flint dismissed the egypt discussion, or a big part of it, based on patterns.
Saying there's nowhere else in the world that has the same pattern.
That's a very weak argument. It strengthens Graham's argument, actually.
"We look for patterns and there isn't one, so that's that. Case closed."
Can we tske a minute to appreciate the Archaeological Dad went and called his son Flint 🤣
😂 thanks, I missed it
Good stuff!!🎉
There's levels to nerdiness 😂
I agree that Indiana jones jr absolutely sucks.
But damn.
Graham starts with an attack on archeology being meanies he should’ve just gotten straight to it and let the dorkiest mfer on earth dig his own hole.
Graham has a smarmy way of making points also. Dribble just really made himself unlikable in even his appearance.
Autism is vast. Some can be abrasive, this came across like sandpaper.
I wish I could’ve seen the interaction between Joe and Jamie the moment Flint and Graham walked out of the studio.
😳😬😅
😂
I’m only 5 minutes in & this comment made me laugh !
Probably talked about how much of a duechebag Flint comes off as regardless of what he knows or doesnt. Poor guy did not get enough hugs from his narcissistic dad.
I agree
I'll bet Flint tries to get his closest friends to call him "Indy"
Lol
This type of discussion/ debate is awesome. It has the potential to go way beyond who is right. It’s an opportunity for people to see how to have a discussion that is meaningful, passionate, yet respectful. Way to go!!
Petition to have Rogan host a 4 hour presidential debate ^^^
Idk if either candidate would survive 😂 also they'd probably try and bomb threat the studio if they actually tried to hold it 😅
i wouldnt be surprised if there was no debate
Would be the most watched video
Wont work. Rogan would be honest, fair, and equal. Thats not allowed.
Have Graham Hancock in there too to keep things fresh
We need more of THIS. Unadulterated debate between amicable people with opposing viewpoints. THIS is how we grow our consciousness, our beliefs, our history! Awesome work Joe.
Absolutely 💯 I'd like to see this done in many fields
How about chronology? Archaix data totally refutes Graham's dating.
The British Narratives = nothing more than deception/money scams.
@@wendyweedwhacker 15:22
I would give my left nut if Rogan would get Trump vs Biden on here
I actually like this collab a lot in a sense that if you are fascinated by Graham's ideas and mysteries of the past, Flint's job is how you can actually explore it, you need both, but for younger people out there it can actually make them want to be an archeologists
I think this should be the first step into achieving a blend of viewpoints for the betterment of reaching the truth of our past
Now I need another podcast of a mainstream geologist debating with Randall Carlson as well.
He's actually a brown belt in Brazilian jui jitsu. That's how Joe became aware of him.
Yo do realize mainstream means its in your face like Joe is mainstream? Gram is mainstream because he has shows and is constantly talking about things he didn't study. While flint is not mainstream along with every other scientist in the world. Dr are more mainstream them archeologist and geologist. I hope this explanation helps you in the future
@@blainfeaster4772replace "mainstream" with "establishment" and you'll get what he meant, hope this helps.
@@hamon_master1390 well said bro!!!!
@@blainfeaster4772keep working at it 😅
3.1M people tuning in for an archeological debate is insane! Joe Rogan did it again
Dude, this is how it should be!
Flint's hat doesn't look very dusty...
I listened to it on spotify so these numers are not evem close i think
16.5 as of this post
Just on YT....
Wow Hancock arguments really don’t hold water, my opinion about him has completely changed 😮
Yea I am a massive fan of his but after watching Ancient apocalypse I was a little disappointed at how fantastical it all was and I agree with Flint the tone was very demeaning to archeology in general. Graham's repitition of "but have you looked everywhere?" was also a little tiresome though I somewhat agree.
Me too, my man. Sad times!
Plant reversion for seed dispersal would be fast not slow.
Jamie was the unsung hero of this episode. He's an HDMI cable samurai.
Of every episode 👌
I mean he didnt even know how to get audio from an HDMI signal.
Just wondering though isn't I possible to have a few hdmi cables in this modern podcast room? Even if a second screen was needed. Then there would be less to switch around or airdrop?
@@user-et9zf3ne5p Not 100% true, there are some really weird edge cases.
@@averagealienSDits not that he didnt know how to get audio from it, the normal audio is probably hooked up from his pc going to dedicated speakers, and not coming from the tv/monitors speakers. It is probably just not set up so that the tv speakers record audio.
I came here from Spotify just for the comments and that was the best decision I’ve ever made
The whole podcast was HamCock crying about how mean the other big boys are to him. Mean while Mr.Pebbles is bringing the science :D
Must have a boring life.
Me too!!! lol flint is a pip squeak
@@royaldesignpythonsorionjon720 HamCock got DIBBLED
exactly lol. i listen to these at 5am when I go for a walk with my dog,. I really feel grateful
2:32:00 isnt it crazy that Dibble asked several colleagues to record webcam videos of them rebutting Graham's ideas?
1:30:56 - Where Flint is talking about what would convince him of the Piri Reis map and aligning it via GIS.
th-cam.com/video/h_IfR17L3JM/w-d-xo.html
This video does just that.
3.3 million people watched this video in just 3 days! (On TH-cam alone)
A 4.5 hour nerd debate on archeology.
Fascinating.
Goes to show where people's interest really lies haha
Dude, its about humian history and the beginning of it that people are interested in, not the archiology it self.
Conspiracy theories, not archeology
@@pugs909Yep, this is exactly it. If you see all the rabid Hancock fans commenting on his appearances, what they fixate on is the conspiracy angle with the archaeology as a distant second.
It's just another example of how gullible the average person is. They want to be entertained more than use critical thinking skills.
@@jorgemartinez42069I bet you comment "source!?" in comments 20 times a day to feel good about yourself.
Flint Dibble is that one guy in High School who brought a briefcase instead of a backpack.
😂😭😭😂
That’s actually the koolest cat in the school too doe btw.. ✊🏾🧠🌍🧘🏾♂️😂.. rs.. I’d rather be ahead of time, then behind…., FeeMe¿
Flint is that one guy in High School that got suspended for bringing his light saber to gym class
did we all have that one kid who did that?
And a whip and told others “it belongs in a museum “
If you're on the show to prove that the archaeological community doesn't act like bullies and moch people who challenge their findings, then laughing at almost every thing the other side suggest is probably not the way to go.
Yeah I'm only part way through and I can already tell exactly the type of person he is and it's infuriating. Makes me question his motives and reliability.
@@jakefell91 I agree. its a shame. This is why we need people like Graham that can challenge these goons.
Dude didn’t even have the sack to apologize for his BS claims and attack on graham. Flint is a total Dbag.
Graham's entire point was that there is a civilization he has no evidence for, but that is because archaeologists haven't unearthed this supposed evidence. With a logical framework like that it is laughable and it is the antithesis to the scientific method
@@jdmstar2732 do you not understand that Graham isn't challenging anything. He is a grifter that has proposed an entire false history with no, none, Nada, evidence. Not a shred of evidence. He is just saying things, just talking. He brings nothing to the table to "challenge these goons"
great work Jamie to bring them face to face.....
I wish this was a monthly episode. Where 2 different opinions of an interesting subject debate their points. Really interesting.
Yes! Underrated comment.
Minus the childlike bickering and name calling by the cosplay side.
Minus the fact that Graham Hancock is an intellectual hack with no integrity. I'd appreciate 2 actual learned opinions though
Agree, this is great. And Joe is letting the bickering happen, which I really like too, we are seeing a very pure debate.
Yeah but I wish it was 2 actual experts arguing the actual frontier of their subject rather than 1 expert and 1 crackpot.
Hearing them dig at each other in professional ways is so funny. “That’s a very good idea flint, thank you”
No pun intended, I’m sure
@@thomascorsi3178that had to be intentional 😂
Gentlemen, our egos are on the line! (And education is impugned.)
😂
@@jonathanbolanos5272 it’s almost more impressive if it wasn’t
3:48:07 i think the question is what kind of test and trial, mathematics, geometry, they knew? this is pretty important stuff.
As a scuba diver, I never seen natural formations that look like that. The Stonehenge looks less man made than some of these lol
Yeah, but we actually find artifacts and burials in Stonehenge. We don't find that in any of the places that Graham mentioned, and not just because we aren't looking. They wouldn't have been swept away by water either; at least some of the stuff would still be there. Where is it all? Where are all the things that this globe-spanning civilization made and used?
Lowest level of evidence is Anecdotal reports.
When Graham said the Tamils told them there was a whole city out there and they wanted the Government to knock it down because there nets kept getting caught on it...and then produced 3 green blurry pciture of very little...and when Joe asked him if he has any clear ones he said he left them at home. If that was on Judge Judy she would have asked where he thought he was coming today.
@@weareallbornmad410 ....but we haven't excavated those sites yet.
As a construction worker I can guarantee you my boss doesn’t want to hear anything about a work stoppage due to found archeological structures and/ or objects. I can only imagine how many are bulldozed in other countries
Fr, if you find a arrowhead or any sort of artifact, that will stop dirt from moving and being productive
I 2nd that 100%
Your boss is a horrible person then
Yep same here
And its awful. Imagine how many important discoveries we have already built over that could be groundbreaking
joe's skill as a moderator is underrated. he did phenomenally here. he is such a good interviewer/host. wow.
Ehhhh haven’t finished yet but like it’s obvious he believes graham over dibble. He pushes dibble a lot instead of just letting the convo flow
@@brain7890 Not surprising he leans Hancock's way.
Hancock's way of explaining things appeals to the simplest among us.
Rogan isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer so Hancock is right up his alley.
Plus he doesn't want to alienate the twinks who frequent his audience for Hancock et al either.
He knows dibbles was right, ESPECIALLY the underwater pictures part, he was disappointed Gram wasn’t more prepared
Graham is just a sore loser. He literally said he’s “hurt” because they won’t stop making fun of him. How about he stops all this mumbojumbo and they won’t treat him like a kook. He’s just out here trying to sell books
Not as good as Shawn Ryan
Bet you his Dad's name was officer Dibble, who used to keep a close eye on Top Cat
You think if you gave Hancock one of those nice looking ancient knife tools but no spectacles he could take Flint in the octagon.