If the NBA let Chris Paul get traded to the Lakers, James Harden wouldn’t be a Rocket
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ต.ค. 2018
- David Stern infamously blocked a trade in 2011 that would have sent Chris Paul to the Lakers, altering the course of NBA history. Paul ultimately ended up in Los Angeles but in a Clippers uniform. The rest of us were left wondering what could have been.
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I like this new series because it makes hypotheticals where the Sacramento Kings draft competently
Not really. They still draft a big man regardless of the hypothetical or realistic situation. The kings fans are sadly doomed in every alternative reality
@@AdrianRocha1481 doomed with AD and Boogie?
Kona Kai ur mom
I've been kings fan for years, but your right they suck at drafting prior years.
Hopeful is pans out with fox, heild and bagley.
@Sports fan this aged well
"flop induced free throw" lmao
Gamecock _S U C K_
1k your welcome
Just like in real life.
So, he ensured the importance of small-town teams by sending CP3 from LA to... LA?
lol...Well the Hornets (now Pelicans) would've gotten the short end of that deal & would never have had a pick high enough to get Anthony Davis. David Stern was acting as the GM of that team while they didn't have an owner. I think it was the best move for New Orleans.
Fawad B In hindsight, of course. But the very premise of Stern’s argument is flawed and despite having AD they ultimately are in the same situation, with AD eventually wanting to demand the trade.
I'm not talking about the reasons Stern gave. The fact is that he was acting as GM of the Hornets cuz team was owned by the NBA. The Pelicans were not getting anything to build a future in this Lakers-Houston deal. They were getting washed up players & everybody know how Rivers has turned out. Do you remember Odom in Dallas? He ended up sulking the entire time cuz he wanted to be back in LA and was cut by the team after like 4 games!
Basically he ensured that the Pelicans would had a good sale value when they sell the team. Nobody wants to buy a team without any value aka superstar aka Chris Paul at that time. I doubt Benson would have bought the team if Chris Paul wasn't there.
It was smart for the NBA since they owned the team and got a higher amount than they would had if they sell the team without Paul.
The whole reason they traded Harden was to avoid paying a measly extra $4 million and you think they’d take on Richard Jefferson’s contract?
Yea then when he decided to keep the orginal cash they still traded him.
Yep, one of the worst decision ever.
I know people talk about how Harden wasn't a star then... but they probably weren't watching. Harden was pretty much like Manu, an obvious starter coming off your bench. It gave OKC the ability to keep scoring with their second unit. He was scoring like 16ppg with a great FG% and very low minutes.
Hector Gonzalez ur thinking of the Kyle Korver trade
I’m pretty sure he was traded too early in this scenario too
Yeah, that didn’t make any sense
"Ice Age survivor Chris Cayman" lmfaoooooo that caught me off guard 😂😂😂😂
Tee Saifele Kaman*
Kind of racist. If it was a black guy looking like a caveman, what would people say.
Jose Carranza what about the youtubers face he looks like a caveman too
Jose Carranza it was because he was old
Chris Caveman
Chris Paul vs Rajon Rondo. Beef history.
Sperm Whale Bollywood news
Eh
cp3 is winning the beef
Vs Anthony Kiedis lol
rondo winning
“I never appreciated Shaq until I played with Dwight.” Ouch lol
Moral of the story the warriors are always annoying
lol
Nah.
Charlie Taaffe Exactly
Once curry leaves they will go back to been a low tier team again, like the cavaliers.
@@latinsizer I think KD would leave over Curry.
If the internet was given their Jon Bois, then I wouldn’t have to cry myself to sleep
November/December, my friend. Be strong.
CP3 couldn’t even get a chip in a fantasy timeline damn 😭😭😂
But he’s about gonna get one in this timeline ☀️🏆
@@fatherpucci6097 LMAOOO
@@fatherpucci6097 lol
I honestly feel like Kobe and Dwight's relationship wouldn't have ended that bad if CP3 was there to mend both egos
So the guy with a huge ego to the point that he demanded a 44 million a year contact up until he turns 37 and stormed the Clippers locker room while with the Rockets, would have fixed an ego war?
Dude was arguing against Nash about the P&R. Lmao. You give 2012-2013 Dwight too much credit
sephron17 you and the 21 people that upvoted you are idiots.
Nah I think if paul and Phil jackson were there then yes but instead they got dantony I dont even know how to spell it
@@mattnorris7124 well if you’re seeing what he’s done to the Suns you would give him that money as well
Imagine that Hornets team though. Dragic, Martin, Odom, Scola, Ariza, Okafor......... lowkey a solid squad
GRAv3S 666 Why would they have to trade them?
I don't think they would have made the playoffs. Odom would have had the same problems he had with the Mavs after the Lakers sent him there, wouldn't be any different with the Hornets. That lineup would be fun to watch but wouldn't have any defense and if my memory is correct, Ariza wasn't with the Hornets for long.
That squad would suck that's why that trade got vetoed dragic wasn't what he is now which isn't really much martin would be the best scorer at 20 maybe they wouldn't gave had a bench either they would a sucked
Bruno S. Well Dragic was only 2 seasons away from the year he made 3rd team all nba and won Most Improved (when he was with Phoenix) but he could’ve had better numbers then if he got more of a chance then. Martin could put up 20 PPG easily as you said, Odom just the season before put up 14-8-3 en route to winning 6th man of the year. Scola came off a season averaging 19-9, Okafor was basically a double-double guy, and Ariza would get you his typical 10-12 PPG on good shooting splits. Not to mention they had Jarrett Jack, who gave you 15-6, and Marco Belinelli, who has provided about 10 PPG every season in his career. They also had Carl Landry and Jason Smith, who would be solid backup bigs that could both rebound and provide a solid scoring punch. Lastly, they had Greivis Vasquez, who was never a good starting PG, but a nice backup. That’s 11 guys that are capable of averaging 10 PPG as well. I’m not saying they would win a championship or they might have even still missed the playoffs, but they would be a nice all-around squad. They somewhat resemble the Nuggets of last season (Not this year bc they look like serious threats) because both teams would be bad defensively, but have a plethora of scoring options, as well as plenty of candidates on their team to be injured. The only difference is that the Nuggets are extremely young as well, whereas this Hornets team wouldn’t be old, but isn’t young either, and would probably sit about the middle of the league in average age.
Bruno S. Sorry that was so long, I didn’t notice it until I hit reply lol
KOBE and CP3 would win vs young thunder
They also missed the fact about the coach. D'Antony would have been coaching the lakers. The lakers would have essentially been the last year's rockets. It also misses the fact that Kobe had to have one if his greatest seasons just to make it to the playoffs, which is why he had to put so much strain on his body.
And wouldn’t lose to the warriors next year
I'm a Lakers fan, and idk about that. Kd, Russ, and Harden were incredible. If not for LeBron and Wade, they'd have a ring.
No they wouldn't
Nah
WE LIKE SPORTS AND THE NBA IS RIGGED
Kofie Why? I think it’s rigged at times and some times I believe that it’s a legit game being played. I guess it depends on what team I’m rooting for and who they’re up against.
WE LIKE SPORTS AND WE DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS
@@ad_stayfly7
Na its rigged
Did you really think that Magic Johnson got lebron james on the lakers and luol deng 7.5 millions dollars cashback in the buyout to free up the lakers for another superstar all by himself?
Aww how cute
*Jerry West The NBA Logo himself* is the first draft pick in the relocated Los Angeles Lakers franchise and was with the organization as a player, coach, Player Scout/Player Recruit, General Manager for over 40 years. Oh and did I mention that Jerry West has a undisclosed ownership in The Warriors since 2011 and becoming part of their management the same year. Now Jerry West is with the Clippers While Magic Johnson is managing the Lakers
To Be Continued...
David Stern, Adam Silver, and the refs are only 3/4 of the Rigging and corruption since the 80s. The last one that no one talks about is The *NBA Logo* himself.
Under his reign Lakers won 8 Champs going back to the 80s and helped them get 2 more even after he lefted. Lakers has 16 champs and Jerry West had his hand in 10 of them from behind the desk. Jerry "The NBA Logo" West is the guy pulling all the lever behind the curtains. I guess you can call Jerry West The Wizard of Oz of the NBA. David Stern, Adam Silver, and the Refs are his partner's in crime. If you include Lakers and warriors together during the "Jerry West Era" he is responsible for 13 Championship.
3 with the warriors
10 with the Lakers(Memphis)
Jerry West The NBA LOGO himself created this warrior dynasty. He also created the Kobe shaq run and the show time lakers of the 80s. The superteam choked 1981 1983 and 1986 all as defending champs. Dont forget about the Tragic Magic Johnson year or what about 2002 and does 2004 ring a bell. Choking 73-9 almost losing to the rockets in 2018 but got saved by NBA ref Scott foster just like 2002 when Kobe and shaq got saved by the ref. Or what about the years when it was 4 HOFer vs 1 HOFer Dr.j in 1980 and 1982. Does that sound so familiar to the warriors superteam vs lebron.
Jerry West created the Magic Kareem Show times Lakers dynasty. Jerry "The NBA Logo" West was able to talk Shaquille O'neal into leaving The Orlando Magic with the promise of Hollywood fame/money and "champs". Then trade for Kobe Bryant to be his wingman and leave for Memphis while leaving lakers Mitch kupcake in good hands. Kobe who was going to be no one's wing man runs off "fat"shaq (squeakiest wheel gets the oil) and sounded like a female after a bad breakup
Kobe-"I'm independent"
next three years he doesn't even get out of the first Rd. We get to see what kobe really was, a high volume scorer hell bent on catching Michael Jordan.
Realizing that his prime will only last so long, kobe demands trade and in response The lakers (with my best straight face on) trade *kwame brown contract* , second round 48th draft pick, and 2 throw in to Memphis for a current allstar center in Pau Gasol. Marc gasol was years away from helping kobe and still a unproven European player. This was a risk for the Griz not the Lakers. Who is the guy in the Memphis management that helped this lopped sided trade go through? None other than Jerry "The Logo" West himself. The same guy who created the Shaq kobe duo. He had to fix the lakers mess by sending another allstar center to the Lakers rescue and help kobe win two more champs without Shaq.
"What they did in Memphis is beyond comprehension," said Popovich. "There should be a trade committee that can scratch all trades that make no sense. I just wish I had been on a trade committee that oversees NBA trades. I'd like to elect myself to that committee. I would have voted no to the L.A. trade."- Gregg Popovich
Then Jerry West went to the Golden State Warriors and used his "influences" to create another money making machine and played a key role in getting Kevin Durant the snake/cupcake to sellout and leave OKC. Shaq leaving the Magic is nothing compared to choking a 3-1 lead and joining your enemy in the same conference who had a 73-9 record.
Jerry "The NBA Logo" West is the one who got Klay Thompson for the warriors in 2011. He would turn around and trade Monta Ellis *Kwame Brown contract* and a third player for Andrew Bogut and Stephen Jackson which who they traded days later (ironically to the spurs) for a first round draft pick...wait what? A washed up Stephen Jackson for a top 7 first round pick? oooooook.
"but the warriors are good at drafting!!!"
if you say so little kid. Then the warrior's would tank and hit their most famous draft class the very next year in 2012 and use that roster to tweak future roster. Go ahead and scream coincidence. I sure remember the warriors fan screaming and booing the owner during Chris Mullin jersey retirement for that Trade. This night happens only once in Chris life and warriors fans showed their true class act...
by booing
They kept booing even after when Chris and Rick Berry grab the Mic and told the warriors fans to stop it. Even with Jerry West there to give them clearance to "great drafting" the "Greatest Team of all time" still needed the ref and injuries to opposing teams Stars to "earn" their last 3 champs.
Everyone knows that the NBA rigged another warriors vs cavs Finals. In fact Tim Donaghy has made over 120 calls to his bookie while fixing games during his last season alone as a Ref in the NBA before he got busted by the FBI for fixing games and had to serve jail time. FBI also found out that he made over 130 calls to Scott Foster 150 to Thomas Martino. With most of these calls lasting no more than a few minutes before or after games that he had officiated. Who would the NBA assigned to the warriors vs Rockets game 7???
Scott Foster
Rockets are 0-6 in the postseason when Scott Foster officiates the games. Where were the warriors in the 80s 90s or even the 00s? They needed help to "earn" their last three champs Sad but True. warriors dynasty? lakers dynasty?
*The "The NBA Logo" Era is the real Dynasty of The NBA*
the dude Really dude The Warriors wouldn’t have 3 rings if it weren’t for Curry ankle problems. Without his ankle problems, they don’t draft Thompson, Barnes, or Green
@@allabouthewaves4354
Please do explain
It is amish Shia Lebouf! I have missed you☺️
KD & Klay vs Steph & Harden? They’d shoot the lights out *Literally*
A Superstar Duo was unacceptable at the time…. But nowadays there is a Superstar TRIO that’s formed every offseason….
Laker fans ALWAYS talk about this 😑
Because Stern screwed us!
What other team got screwed like that... better deal rejected cause owners complain Lakers are too good but allow Miami Superteam, GSW allowed 4 allstars after 3 titles lol.
Edward Brito
Reasons why the Warriors have 5 all stars
1. They drafted Curry, Thompson, and Green
1. Curry ankles limited his contract hence why at 1 time, he has like the 5th or 6th highest contract on the team.
3. Klay and Draymond both signed contacts after their first ring in 2015 and those contracts weren’t max contracts.
4. They had a bunch of guys(Barnes, Lee, Bogut, Spieghts) that were going to be free agents after the 2015-2016 season. Warriors front office knew they would be setting up to get a max level player to continue their success of winning championships and going to the Finals. That’s why they went after KD in Free Agency and the rest is history.
Shhh don’t talk to loud David stern might hear you and veto the lebron James signing to the lakers lol
Edward Brito The NBA wanted Lebron to be the face of the league. After him and the Cavs failed twice to play the Lakers in 09 and 10 after being the #1 seed, the NBA and Lebron knew if he stayed in Cleveland and the NBA allowed the CP3 trade, Lebron wouldn’t win anything but MVPs and First Team All NBAs.
This is stupid 😂 Draymond wouldn’t even get minutes if he was young 💀🤣 Steph wasn’t MVP level around 2011-2013 so he’d just be a good offensive Point Guard especially with having Mark Jackson instead of Steve Kerr since Jackson didn’t let him run wild from the 3point line as much as Kerr and Harden didn’t reach his full potential MVP level at this time either and you wanna tell me they can beat Prime Cp3 , Kobe who didn’t tear his Achilles yet and Dwight Howard who was the best Center at the time?? REALLY😂😂😂💀 ?? Y’all usually on point but y’all Reached with this one Brodie
Dwight was suffering from injuries
I love how much these stories spiral out of control
Yeah but having 5 of the top 15 players in the league on 1 team now is ok?
How awesome are these videos! Please make more of them
“Ice Age Survivor, Chris Kaman.....” LMFAO, I’m dead. 🤣💀
Who else watching this during the quarantine?
thats definitely different timeline. brilliant episode!
Hakeem Olajuwon brought up a thing in his autobiography that would be good for this series:
What if the Rockets, in addition to drafting Hakeem in '84, got Clyde Drexler _and_ the #2 pick from Portland, the pick which would've been Michael Jordan?
Honestly I think ur discounting what chris Paul's leadership skill may have meant to that team, I mean there still may have been turmoil, and there would be chemistry issues, however with Chris paul actually controlling the team on the court and being as good of a leader as he was said to be back then I think the Lakers would have worked through that and been able to squeeze out at the very minimum one championship run
Not true
"Ice age survivor Chris Camen"
How do y’all come up with these scenarios? Lmao 😂
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure the Kings would've messed up that pick and probably picked someone like MKG or John Henson. Come on, did you do your research? They're the Kings, man!
Lmfao they so wouldve picked mkg, john salmons was 33 and a shell of what he was before going to chicago, plus they already had cousins.
Though we cant be sure cuz AD seemed a shoe-in for that 1st pick
This was really creative, love it
Eric Gordon was a young player who looked like a budding star (had just averaged 23ppg the year before). That is why the Clippers deal looked so much more enticing, even though Gordon's injuries ultimately kept him from becoming a star in the league.
This is something id still be upset over as an old man.
Its honestly crazy what one player could do to the entire league. I thought nothing of this when it happened
Great beard and great video
Not mentioned but a cool domino effect would be that if the Raptors don’t trade for Lowry then they keep their 2013 first round pick which they would’ve used on Giannis since they would’ve probably landed ahead of the Bucks since they no longer had a good second option with DeRozan and Masai Uijiri was linked to Giannis and even tried to draft him in reality.
“Ice age survivor” I died 😂
No offense, but this is kind of unrealistic
Kobe-CP3-Dwight Howard
Don’t beat a young KD, Westbrook and James Harden
Or
A young an unmatured Curry, Harden and Draymond
WE WANT JOHN BOIS
jaisnav rajesh yes they would wtf
I disagree I think the Lakers would've won at least 2 titles.
Only thing unrealistic is the Dwight trade, it only happened when Nash requested a sign and trade, without that Bynum would still be there.
dray wasnt even In the leaugue yet
That flip at the end was FIRE 🔥🙌🏾
What is the instrumental music that plays in the background on this video?
lmao I love the end!!
00:42 In 2011-2012 the Lakers had 16 championships not 11, 5 of which were already won by kobe, 2011-2012 is the year after they got swept in the playoffs by dirk
Simon Ayber one he said the Lakers had 11 titles as the LA Lakers 5 of those 16 they won in a different city two 2010-2011 was when the Mavericks swept them the Heat won in 2012
Finally, a REAL anchor that knows what he's talking about. A+
Kind of like Mike Korzemba's "What If" videos! Both series are dope
1:43 “ice age survivor” how do you guys come up with these lines”?
i got a question. if i was a team owner of any sport is there anything stopping me from just stacking my team besides money?
Sorry, Lakers are losing to both a baby Thunder team and a young Warrior team when they have Kobe, who can defend Harden, Paul who can guard Curry back then and then no answer for Howard? Pleaaaaaaaaaaase fam
harden was the sixth man. Kobe wouldnt be guarding him.
Makes no sense to me
“Ice age survivor” LMAOO🤣🤣
Wow...the ending 😂 y’all would go there
Im so glad I get to enjoy Klay's honest marksmanship, not Harden's boring free throws and deception
Andreas Ryge lmao good one
Basketball is my favourite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.
What is the music that plays at the end of this? The violins?
Yes thanks fo this video. Nobody talks about this
Some things are truly unforgivable
Somebody plz tell me how the clippers package for cp3 was better than the lakers again?
As a Cavs fan, this hurts.
I don’t think this would’ve happened at all I don’t think cp3 would’ve left the lakers & Dwight cp3 and Kobe would’ve played well together I believe that was their problem they didn’t have a PG and still had Pau
Even to this day, this is still one of the greatest what ifs in NBA history and it still bother me to this day.
before i watch this video, does it still end with him getting pieced up by rondo?
The Lakers would’ve beat OKC
I saw this in July 2019 and at first I thought it was about free agency
as a lakers fan, this almost made me cry
Rip Kobe 💛💜💛💜
This story had more twists and turns than my bacon-fat clogged arteries.
Damn bruh what a rabbit hole
Ice age survivor...I was in bed until I heard that.Now I can start my day.
Kobe and cp3 together would won a ring. Stop with this nonsense they would of been crap.
Hot Chocolate Fitness no they wont, paul wouldve held kobe back, dudes an awful teammate.
Kobe was declining and they wouldve had zero depth. They wouldnt have been able to win the west.
Yea, except, in your dream scenario, Chris Paul would have to actually be on the court to make that happen. As last season illustrates, Kobe in your dream is on the court while CP3 is cheering from the bench in a suit.
@@Super.average
Kobe didn't declined? He declined because e got injured. In fact he played better at 34? He had his best season at 34? Dwight Howard got to the Lakers Injured in 2013 he was a shell of himself. The Lakers wanted to trade for Dwight in 2011 as well. If a healthy Chris and healthy Dwight and healthy Kobe would of players together Kobe would of rested a lot. Chris Paul could of taken over games in the season and Kobe would of turned it on in the playoffs. Chris Paul would of learned if anything he was hungry for a ring. One thing he hated about Shaq was that he was lazy. Chris was the opposite the man had great work ethic something Kobe respected. And also Jerry buss was still alive this wasnt magic or Jim buss making stupid moves. He was doing chess still one last team until he passed away a couple years later.
Bro how do the Pistons always get screwed in these vids
You should do an "If Peyton Manning attended Michigan" video, now that that possibly has surfaced.
I'm just playing NBA 2k11 in my old Xbox 360, and I'm just living this trade, I did the same trade that was supposed to happen and build a team around kobe and Paul, with Gerald Wallace Andrew bogut and Carl Landry plus tmac off the bench, doing good so far 12-8
Klay would have saved the Thunder in G6 of WCF
This one hurts almost as much as the 04 finals.
Just one of millions of what ifs
This trade veto was the reason I stopped watching NBA.
And?
SuperStarTidus18 nobody cares
SuperStarTidus18 so you’re a lakers fan that stopped just because we didn’t get cp3? Bruh you gotta be kidding
The fact is that the NBA and stern wanted LeBron to take over the league. Sending Paul would have hurt LeBron and their money. There’s no reason to cancel the trade.
The is especially obvious when you see this trade be canceled with the excuse of the league being balanced, but then letting LeBron completely bulldoze the league with super team after super team.
if something like the finals with the lakers and Kings happened calling them the biggest franchise and stuff then veto this
Can we pause every day and accept that the Thunder used to have Westbrook, Durant, Harden, etc?
Bro said ice age survivor Chris Kaman 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The first other offer they had for Harden was from the Suns. Other than that great video sir!
Mind blowing
MAYBE THE GREATEST POINT GUARD EVER!! I WATCHED MAGIC AND ZEEK!! AND THEY WHERE NOTHING SHORT OF DAZZLING!! BUT THEY HAD AMAZING SUPPORTING CAST AND GREAT COACHES!!
DO MORE VIDS LIKE THESE
What if John Elway played with Baltimore Colts or played baseball with the Yankees
What if Eli Manning stayed in San Diego
What if the Colts select Ryan Leaf as the 1st Pick
Oh...Ryan Leaf would be interesting especially since he was drafted by the Chargers. Would Peyton have demanded a draft night trade the way Eli did? This sounds like an awesome if/then!!
As a Kings fan i wished this happened
Wow even in an alternate Universe CP still doesn’t get a ring. His episode of “Untitled” should be a good one.
Ice age survivor Chris Kaman
😂😂🤣🤣😭😭
SB Nation should make a video about the only NBA all-star to win a championship with no other all-star
they would of gotten Dwight Howard and it would of been Chris Paul, Dwight Howard and Kobe vs Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and LeBron. That would of been some legendary finals series.
This video makes the Harden Trade look even worse. Durant, Westbrook, and Thompson long term in OKC, damn. What could've been.
I think cp3 would’ve qualmed tension between kobe and Howard. Idk why but he seems like he can de-escalate issues between teammates
I do agree, maybe OKC wouldv'e thought it over well and decided to let Harden develop on their team rather than the Rockets
Ice Age Survivor Chris Kaman 😂
Personally I think that if Lebron on the heat could give the thunder the business, then Kobe with help could also give them the business, especially since that would mean that he most likely doesn't get injured & according to Kobe out of all his seasons where he was just a monster, that season he tore his Achilles was his prime (before getting injured of course)... Though curry & harden would b kind of worrisome because both aren't very defensive & both like to create off the dribble (though curry can operate off ball at an elite level as well)... But the lack of defense from the back court would b frightening
Hell of a story!
I think Klays defense is a really underrated factor in the warriors dynasty
I remember Klay, Jefferson and a 1st for Harden I was surprised when OKC took the Rockets offer. Looks like we were winning chips regardless.
sucks for Harden lol
I never appreciated Shaq until I played with Dwight lmaoo
Interesting to watch this now that Eric Gordon is a Clipper again
I can't handle this alternate timeline
So what happened with Demarcus & AD in Sac?
They never made the playoffs cause they're still the Kings
Benjamin Blanchard-Saiger same thing happened in new orleans haha
They played together in NO ya ninny
Viking Politics for all of 5 minutes. Did the Kings make the playoffs? We need to know these things
John Marku Demarcus tore his achilles on a non contact injury with Chris Paul setting off a chain of events that would ruin the league for years to come. Seems fishy
Yall know if this happened..Kobe would still have Phil Jackson..which means no Antoni ..which means no Achilles tear...which means dwight cp3 and Kobe demolish the league