Allen Iverson never won an NBA championship. Here's what left him empty-handed.
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- What stood in the way of Allen Iverson earning a ring? It’s tempting to simply say “practice,” but that oversimplifies all the factors that worked against Allen, and it sort of glosses over the fact that he was an incredible player. Sure, he’s got a reputation for skipping practices and going to practice only makes you better- but there was more that kept Iverson from hoisting the Larry O’Brien trophy.
In his prime, his gargantuan efforts to propel underdog teams through the playoffs on upsets came up short. He never seemed to have the right supporting cast around him. Even when the 76ers made trades to help him, Allen always ended up with the team on his slight shoulders.
When he was suddenly told he was past his prime, he refused to be a sub. You can’t just glom onto a team and chase a ring if you don’t come off the bench. He wanted a championship, but he wasn’t about to let somebody else win it for him.
Here’s what left Allen Iverson empty handed.
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feel like a missed opportunity to say "and here's the answer..."
Baldino Salvador I was expecting that as well 😂😂
"And here's the answer: Practice"
so was “Huh, weird”
SB Nation needs to hire you for writing their scripts! 😂
@MANCHESTER UNITED watch this: th-cam.com/video/BLUkgRAy_Vo/w-d-xo.html
“I don’t know any former MVP come off the bench”
*Derrick Rose has entered the chat*
Man if Derrick Rose was handled right , he would be one of the great ones. He had the same fate as Grant Hill
@ZachLavineHive ! you're too young and that's okay..
how about Andre Iguodala? he is the only Finals MVP coming off the bench just pointing out..
Well derrick rose wasnt coming off the bench then 🥴
kalstonii Key word former
"...he wasn't about to let someone else win it for him."
I love that line. Sums up his whole career.
Also: he wasn't gonna let anyone win it with him.
And so... ultimately he didn't win it. Just swallow your pride and accept you can't win it alone. The guy wqs a ballhog throughout his career.
@@smallmindsruledotcom6420 youre taking it out of context. This was in reference to him coming off the bench. He wasnt going to get a ring if he wasnt a big part of the team that made it happen. He had help with the Nuggets. That team was one of the most fun teams to watch offensively. Had no D. He tried to take the back seat, he just never gave it time.
Pride did cost him a ring, though. Youre right.
Iverson was the problem, nothing they did worked because every decision ultimately depended on him.
That’s why he wouldn’t get a ring
in 10 years we gonna get "why James Harden never won a championship"
He need to leave Houston to win a championship tbh
@@alexandercasian7998 he need to change his playstyle to win one, Kobe said it himself, he knows that kind of playstyle doesn't work, cause he used to have that playstyle
I hope that not
@MANCHESTER UNITED what does this have to do with james harden?
@@cap532 Played out play style, mentality (has a 1st option's scoring drive and talent but a #2's leadership attitude) plus no interest in playing defense is Harden's downfall.
Bill Walton, former MVP, won a ring with the Celtics as the sixth man. Manu Ginobili, the man who lead Argentina to beat the team USA (with LeBron, AI, Stoudemire, Marion, and DWade) in 2004 agreed to come off the bench in his tenure as a Spur. Andre Iguodala agreed to come off the bench in the Warriors dynasty despite being a borderline all star since the beginning of the career, and won three rings. They have every right to be a starter, but the team always gets better once they put their ego away. Had AI done the same thing, he might win a ring
Truth!
perfectly sums up why Iverson doesn't have a ring.
Ginobili is the only one in his prime on that list of guys you mentioned.
Never thought of it that way.
I'm not going to actually run the numbers on how many stars won titles as a starter before they started working from the bench, but your conclusion sounds like confirmation bias.
this is EXACTLY what i’ve been waiting for. i don’t mean to sound like katt williams but this is EXACTLY what i’ve been waiting for
SASBurner is that you?
Volsfan6 he got the LazyTown dude in the profile. That was my show when I was younger
That's good no one should want to sound like Kat Williams. Unless they're into sounding like a talking Chihuahua in a 12 year old's body. A 12 year old that assaults people when he doesn't get his own way.
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T stingy bro
I think u mean SAS
"Why did Allen Iverson never win a championship?"
Kobe & Shaq: Allow us to introduce ourselves
Yup!
You forgot to mention the refs that were bought.
Why did we have to wait so long for this?
Hell lakers spurs and pistons lol
And reintroduce
His "off the bench" rant is just as good as the practice one 😂
Now we know where Melo get it from
Its a bad idea to do a drinking game on that 😂😂😂
AGREEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
14:57 LMAO 😂🤣
I remember watching the press conference when AI was going back to Philly. He cried and was (I thought) humbled because no other team wanted him. He talked about all of the mistakes he made in the past. I was really rooting for him. Still can't believe he didn't even finish the season. Pride can be an ugly thing.
Wasn't his daughter's health problems the reason he didn't finish the season?
@@infinitymixtapes9562 I think so plus l
People love bringing up pride, most of us have it....
@@Bigedub101 Yeah but not to that extent lmao, there's a reason on why allen is literally famous for missing practice and refusing to be a bench player, because 98% of players don't do either to the extent he did.
AI wuz alwayz a dumbazzz nugga we all kno dat lls
I was so happy for Larry Brown winning a championship with the Pistons (and not just because they beat L.A.). It's amazing he got Iverson as close to a ring as he did, and just look how that Pistons team lost all discipline and collapsed after he left. Very underrated coach.
The only thing missing from this video is a "Huh, weird..." at the appropriate juncture
@Ktube You have to watch the "Beef History" episode on Lance Armstrong and Greg Lemond to understand.
Yeah was expecting that from every SB Nation video 😂
@@frankpinmtl LeMond. Gotta get that name right when you're talking about one of the best cyclists of all time!
ESPN is gonna steal this format in 2 weeks, I guarantee it
Well it's been a month and ESPN still useless lol
II D3ADB1RD II 3 weeks after your comment...they still useless
they invented the this format this is basically a 30 for 30
@@playoffl36ron8 it isn't like a 30 for 30. 30 for 30s are commissioned documentaries by different filmmakers who each have their own style
@@playoffl36ron8 h h. H. H h h hh
I love AI but he was his own biggest enemy. MJ was upset when Phil Jackson was brought in to replace Doug Collins because it meant implementing the triangle offense and eliminating iso ball. I'd say that worked out pretty well. Sometimes you have to put your ego aside for the sake of winning.
@Mitch Gill It was actually the Raptors who turned down the trade. The Sixers would've sent Larry Hughes and a 1st round pick in exchange for T-Mac, but it fell though. T-Mac wanted a team built around him, which is why he left Toronto for Orlando in the first place. A prime T-Mac and prime AI would've been a lethal duo, but would AI relinquish the ball handling? He didn't do it with Stackhouse and Hughes.
Mitch Gill I think you both are right though. AI did a lot of it to himself but management and the problematic league at the time, was not helping him either.
@Mitch Gill Yeah I agree. But it's a little but of both. He did have huge ego problems but not enough talent to make that irrelevant. Like Kobe and Shaq, Kobe hated that Shaq was lazy throughout their tenure. But he was dominant enough anyway that the result on the court silenced all of that. In Iverson's case, it's easy for us to see the talent around him and blame them for why he never won. But I bet there are former coaches and teammates who absolutely wondered how badly did he actually want it. It's tough as a player and as a man when you're showing up to practice and grinding everyday, and the guy that's supposed to lead you shows up whenever he wants. No matter how good that player is, that's always a bad trait for other teammates. And we all know since we were young that everyone hates the kid who gets away with doing things that you get punished for. It's a human trait, and happens in the NBA too. If a non superstar doesn't show up daily and work hard, they get benched or cut. If a superstar does the same thing they get away with it. I'm not saying it's unfair or anything, I'm just saying it absolutely rubs your coaches and teammates the wrong way when you act like a diva while they're fighting for their jobs everyday.
@Mitch Gill Jermaine O'Neal was a defensive player and teams always need those. And he came off the bench multiple times in his career. CP3 is a pass first PG and also a good defender, that runs your offense. AI was literally just a guy who scores. Teams wanted him, but they wanted to use his scoring skills off the bench and he said no. It's really that simple. But if you need to ask why CP3 is still starting at 34 but not AI at 34, then that tells me everything you know about basketball.
@Mitch Gill dumb analogy. AI and Chris Paul have different playstyles.
Chris Paul is a pass-first guard and he exhibits great leadership. He also shoots great jumpshots which makes him valuable in the modern NBA.
AI is a shoot-first guard, prioritized himself over his teammates and was never really a consistent jumpshooter. He was never fit to be a starter by the age of 34 if he wanted to ballhog because he had already lost the athleticism he had when he was younger and he never really had a consistent jumpshot.
When I was in my early 20s I loved AI's swag, how he did what he wanted and how no one could tell him nothing. Now that I'm 40 I'm all 'You have responsibilities Allen! Showing up to practice is the least you can do! Dammit boy, don't you have any kind of sense?'
15:10 fun fact: 3x scoring champ Bob MacAdoo came off the bench and won 2 rings with the lakers in the 80s
Also Mark Aguirre, who was one the best scorers in the 80s, sacrificed his stats for the team and won 2 championships. Iverson was just very immature and couldn't swallow his pride.
Bill walton also for the celtics i believe
Bob McAdoo is also a MVP who comes off the bench for the Lakers.
Paul Albert Antonio that’s literally what he just said
Yeah, but AI didn't know him, though
As a 8 year old boy, Allen Iverson made me a basketball fan. I have a feeling this video is going to give me happy nostalgia, sadness, and disappointment.
Edit: After watching, angry as well at my Sixers for never giving him a second all star in his prime.
us sixers fans have it rough my man
Jeremy DeLia07 I imagine in 20 years a new video like this about the current Sixers and the process. How Simmons and Embiid couldn’t win together, Khawi hitting the shot to give a nation a title, Markell Fultz forgetting how to shoot, Simmons not learning how to shoot, and not keeping Butler.
Dude came to game when he wanted too, lol how can they build around a guy that won't even come to practice
Ricardo Singleton Iverson was to blame as well. He should of had better work ethic. But on the court he always gave it his all. Management should have given him in all star to give the team a chance to win a title. If not for Iverson, then for the other players and coaches on the team who wanted a championship too
brian092393 yep and how we refused to fire that idiot Brett brown
In all 28 years of my life I never heard anyone calling Todd Mccolloch a scorer😂🤦🏾♂️
He had great hands for a big man. He could catch lots of inside passes that most bigs couldn’t handle and could fill a role in an offense.
Charles Pritchett ok he can catch then what lol
So sad that a man with so much heart and talent could never get his ego in check. Couldn’t never be selfless. Could never see passed himself. Sad and That’s coming from someone who actually likes him.
Mitch Gill nah he had some talent on the sizers I just felt like it was the team’s injury’s his ego and the dominant western conference
Mitch Gill He had Dikembe Mutumbo in 2001. He was an all star and DPOY that year.
Jack but was injured
Mutombo was healthy in the playoffs.
@@maryakopyan3224 And they made the finals and lost to an insanely dominant lakers...
Not gonna lie, this kinda hurts to watch, being a huge A.I. fan😅
Facts man. I still remember all these heartbreaks
@@JetertoJudge I remember his MVP season, his run to the Finals, the 50 and 60 point games. And was still pretty good as a Nugget. Hall of Famer. What heartbreak?
@Philly Duo Right! This hurts to watch but our guy was a complete diva and refused to listen to great leadership from brown.
Agreed
Wassup guys
AI is my favorite player of all time. I'm from Philly. I truly have seen every triumph and every heartbreak this man went thru as a Sixer. He was amazing. It was gut wrenching to see him lose in the playoffs. His game 1 win vs the Lakers in the finals was a moment in time I'll never forget. 😢
On Gawd my boy u wuld get da handz if I seen u talkin bout AI who ain’t even from da area AND PRETEN LKKE KOBE BRYANT WHO IS FROM PHILLY AUNT U #1. What streets u want to meet on my boy let me talk sum sense into u help u see da light
Dude was trash. They literally lost the series because of him. Even in that first game, he shot 43 percent from the field and they won despite him.
Honestly, if you watched that game 1 and came out with any other take than "Allen Iverson almost lost them the game", you don't know anything about basketball
Thank you for bringing up his death of his best friend during that presss conference about practice alot ppl dont know he was hurting
Rickey J Films I had no idea about that. I would be in the same mood. He definitely didn’t have the best reputation as a “good” teammate but know that now, I definitely sympathize with the man.
It wasn't the death but the murder trial.
@@Twigg4075 that's good he was a good teammates watch andy hoop on Allen Iverson vs ref might helps.
@@macewbee I have no idea what you're saying here?
@@Twigg4075 *"Andy Hoops"* is another TH-camr who talks about College and Pro Basketball.. He's fun to watch, check him out..
Only made the Conference Finals once. AI was a scoring machine but his ego wouldn’t allow him to do all the little things champions do to win when it matters.
That and a terrible work ethic aren't exactly a recipe for success
Ok, but the "what champions would do" is thrown around saying you need to "take the ball and know you're scoring no matter what else happens." It can't be both ways.
@Jeff Pryce also helps that both Jordan and Kobe had an insane work ethic
AI HAD STACKHOUSE TOO EARLY AND C WEBB TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@jacobcelmer4928 you dont become arguably the best player in basketball at HIS size by having a "terrible work ethic"
Sixers got The Answer, but didn’t know the question
Best comment I’ve seem so far
They didn't show the 'process' of their work.
It's because they were busy "tanking"
At least The Journey was a heck of a ride.
It's hard to know the answer when your star player is extremely toxic.
Man, it’s so frustrating to see this cuz the year where he actually showed up to practice and did the usual things any other superstar would do, they went to the Finals. If only he kept doing that...
Could’ve been something special in philly but he didn’t work as hard as he should of
@@christianhilbert1446 have
yeah and if the team provided him better players they definitely would've won
@@mexia23 What? Are you sure you watched the video? They DID PROVIDE him with better players and the Sixers even provided him the scorers he wanted. It all fall short. AI is the one player in history despite his talent, his arrogance and questionable work ethic will always his downfall. So much for his talent and it was wasted on him. Kyrie Irving is borderline getting there. The only difference between them? Kyrie has a ring only because of his Father Lebron lol
@@brianabalos4878 Keth Van Horn and Derrick Coleman man shut up lmaooo
Inspired a whole generation of ball hogs at the park in the 90’s and early 2000’s. *pass the ball!!!*
@ Kobe changed up his game quickly. He only ball hogged because his teams sucked all those years.
@ I'm not talking about during the 3peat. Shaq was the leading scorer on all those teams anyway so not sure how Kobe can be a ball hog when he was never the leading scorer. I'm talking about post Shaq days. Of course he's gonna take all the shots. He had Kwame Brown and Smush Parker as his teammates.
@LaDana Franklin False. Did you even watch the video? Larry Brown wanted AI to play within a team setting, but he refused. Brown ended up assembling a team of defenders and facilitators to cater to AI’s arrogance.
HE AIN'T HAVE NOBODY TO PASS TO!!!!!!!!!!!
@ yeah Curry changed it to be a bunch of dumb ass kids taking 35 foot jumpers off the dribble evey time down the court smh
Eventually, he started to believe that he is bigger than the team. The fame and money got the better of him. Well, when he was hungry and young he was hella fun to watch.
For sure. No superstar caliber player should be wanting to come off the bench, but telling teams you straight up won't do it when you haven't even proven you can be a productive piece for their team is not the way to go. A truly great player with the drive to win would come off the bench and prove why he deserved to still be a starter and earn the role. We all know AI was good enough to start for that Pistons team and especially that Grizzlies team, but you can't expect to show up in a brand new system and just take over when all the other guys on the roster have been there longer than you.
I don't think it was about being bigger than the team, at least in his mind. I think he's just the ultimate competitor. It's a mindset you might not understand. Iverson played thru and incredible amount of injuries. You can make the case these modern guys think they are bigger than the team cause they skip out on games for load management. It's all perspective
@@hb3528 Nah, I get that, I wasn't saying he shouldn't have felt like he should be starting, and like I said, I know for a fact he was good enough to start for every single team he played for. But, if you're the ultimate competitor, you'll do whatever your team needs to win. I don't knock AI for wanting to start and lead the team to wins, though.
The ultimate competitor doesn't give up on his team in the games, though, and puts in all the work needed. Kobe, even when he wanted out of LA the most, never tried to stop winning games or quit practices or showed up 30 minutes before a pivotal playoff game. Granted, he was also never benched. It's a tough situation to analyze because we don't really have precedent of a superstar still in their prime coming off the bench (unless you count OKC Harden) or if you call Manu a superstar. It doesn't sit right with me that he gave up, but I also completely understand why he did.
@@fireflyexotica5525 I pretty much agree but when did Iverson give up In games, from what I saw he fought tooth and nail. I'm sure if we look back even Kobe had his moments. I just don't know enough to specifically say. I know the way he dealt with smush Parker was giving up in a way. Or kwame. And can you imagine Kobe coming off the bench. We all know LeBron have up in a playoffs no less
Bingo. As much as I respect Iverson's game dude was the ultimate me first player. Never wanted to come out of a game to give other guys playing time and when in Detroit he went on record saying he'd rather retire than come off the bench. The next day the pistons said Iverson was sidelined for the rest of the season due to "back spasms" even though fans and media knew that story was b.s.
When do we get a untitled on Elgin Baylor. The greatest with no rings
Such a damn shame that the year he decides to retire, they set the winning streak record (33 games) and won their first LA title.
He technically got a ring for 1972 because he played a few games that season before his retirement. Because his overall contributions were weighted within the success of the whole team, the same as a 12th man's would be, he was awarded a ring as part of a championship team.
@@jackmanley1473 Yeah but he'll never show up in the record books as a champion. Such a shame. Him and West dropped all five of their Finals game 7s to the Celtics and the Knicks... luck was never on their side.
Mitch Gill either him or Karl Malone
@Mitch Gill you haven't seen enough Baylor tape. Dude literally put the style and swagger into basketball. Every star of the 70s, 80s and 90s owes their game directly to how Elgin played. He was THE premier scoring and rebounding forward. AI was just an overbearing and cocky star. He was great but never great enough.
If there's one thing to be learned from the NBA Untitled episodes, it is this: Robert Horry does not mess about in the playoffs. Definition of a team player and he's got seven rings to show for it.
Love this series, by the way. Can't wait for the next one.
And Horry came off the bench.
@@brodocbetty4856 with no problem. Just did his job at the highest level
@@brodocbetty4856greatest ssupersub in basketball history
This sounds like the lady who does Bart Simpson
you should be ashamed for making a reference to Bart Simpson's sexual life
washcloud 😂😂😂
I'll never forget that walk over Tyronn Lue, that was legendary.
@Your Father two rings. Iverson just has a walk over.
@Your Father and no mvp or hall of fame bum
Yes, legendarily sad
He should have been T-d up for that…. I would have slapped him…. Tyrone Lue a 3X champ
@@andrewenciso4791 Tyrone Lue is not no allen iverson 😭
Iverson was not a leader of men. He missed practice and didnt form relationships with the team. That caused them to resent him behind his back. In turn he decided to take more shots and not trust his team. Had he went to practice, he could have inspired those guys to be great.
That wasn't his mindset tho. We saw it very recently with Antonio Brown. Undeniably talented, but not suited to be the focal point of a team.
@Thomas Dauphan You're even dumber. AI's talent is undeniable, but everybody knew he was a black hole on offense, a locker room cancer and coaching cancer, thus nobody wanted to play with him. His ego was his biggest obstacle; AI dug his own grave while blaming everyone else and never questioning his actions.
Deon Davis at least someone understands
@Thomas Dauphan PRIVILEGED RACISM. Your probably white and dont even know what your talking about lol. Allen Iverson was only good from 98 to 07 while the players you listed there were amazing for far longer. Iverson is in top 25 max so many better players than him. He was good but not that good.
Thomas Dauphan
Someone tells a truth you don’t like, scream racism and privilege.
Dan Marino would be a great "Untitled" episode.
Barry Allen agreed.
Let's see if we can get enough movement with this one in the comments. Deff agree
Pretty simple. Miami could not get him a defense.
@@theunpopularopinionatedten4951 He also could have been drafted to the Steelers to be the heir apparent to Bradshaw, but they passed on him because of drug rumours. What I'm interested in is why he never left Miami. But it was probably money.
Best QB ever in my opinion. He never played with a good defense. They were always, meh-like. Slightly above average at best some years.
He just needed an actual team and to actually listen to his coach. I felt that if Iverson had simply obeyed his coach more often and started playing as a team player, he would've won at least one ring.
He had an actual team or teams for a matter of fact. Philly had done everything to give him what he wants. He had a chance to play with Webber, Melo, and Larry Brown. His attitude and selfishness are his only weakness.
Fair assessment except that he was provided with actual teams that had to cater to his play and demands.
CyberAMES Webber wasn’t in his prime when he played for Philly; Melo and AI’s team had no defenders other than Marcus Camby; and Larry Brown didn’t have two great big men like Ben Wallace and Sheed. He just had Mutombo...
If you see on the video... how he is behaving and the way he talk and the way he response to others suggestion... its not about the team but its about attitude and comitment.
So lets the fact do the talk...
God bless
If he had a mature attitude, he might have been in the league longer and probably retired around the time Kobe did. His play might also have improved too but its all what ifs now.
Typically Iverson line Of 13/37 used to drive me insane.
But the years of misery after he left made me appreciate what we had when he was here
Clara, simply awesome!!!! This by far the best recap of a legend's career in short format!!
Why Shawn Kemp, Reggie Miller, Vince Carter, George Gervin, Patrick Ewing, Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming and Grant Hill didn't got a ring?
Either health, injury, timing, or MJ.
@Joegamer55 if he was traded in the middle of 2003-04 season then he got it according to an NBA rule.
Kemp; Health, Jordan, and leaving Seattle.
@Joegamer55 He was dealt to Orlando in 2000 in a sign and trade that netted the Pistons Ben Wallace and Chucky Atkins.
Reginald Miller came close to getting a title, but that brawl in Detroit was the nail in the coffin. The Pacers was busting heads before that all up and down the Eastern conference.
Harden never won a championship: Here’s what emptied him left handed.
Garçon dont do dis
He had to face a warriors team.
And oh yeah Kawhi 2017
Imagine most of your playoffs season loses are from the warriors.
Harden is a lot a lot more better than A.I mentality wise.
A.I no doubt my mind he'd be having 6 rings if he pushed himself to be the GOAT.
All of these basketball ones basically boil down to
“Look. Super teams have been a thing since the beginning of basketball. This guy wasn’t one one, and thus, no rings.”
False. Teams having 3 or 4 Hall of Famers has not always been a thing. Hell, the Detroit team that beat Iverson & Shaq/Kobe didn't even have 1 Hall of Famer on it.
Matt Snyder yeah, it seems that most teams need at least two super stars to be able to win multiple championships. Though I think what we saw with golden state was unheard of even when comparing it to previous “super teams”
@@EJD339 Well, in the post -expansion (1990) era. Teams in the '80s were pretty loaded with 3,4,5 HOFs on 1 team, but once the NBA expanded during the '90s, you saw teams like the Bulls that only had 2 (on the first 3peat) or the Rockets (that only had Olajuwon) that started winning chips until the Super team era started (Boston's Big 3, Heatles, Golden State)
big men know how to lead teams to titles on their own like dirk duncan hakeem but yeah this isn't the 70's were dennis johnson can lead a team to a title or rick barry albeit much taller same for kawhi who got lucky with injuries in the finals and even for dj he had gus williams who was scoring loads and more than him and jack sikma up front...ai in this era had no chance to lead a team to the title...he played in the wrong era at the wrong height...in the mid to late 70's it was possible sorta due to the parity of talent on teams due to the merger balancing rosters but outside of that the nba has been dominated by big men and mvp level wings and multiple star loaded teams since the late 40's......your window to win a title on your own was 1975-1979 outside of 76 where boston had a big three....thats how we get 5 different champs over 5 years the only time in nba history thats occurred and if we stretch it to 6 its still only 5 cause boston won in 74 and 76...outside of that its tough
He became a part of that Pistons team, and ruined that team.
That ending gives me goosebumps despite the quick and sad exit out of his career. My first NBA idol, why I moved to Philly for school, and still one of the best to do it in the game of basketball.
Never heard MJ, Kobe, Steph or Born complaining about practice
Just saying...
His friend died for god's sake, you telling me you wouldn't get pissed if they kept pestering you about practice after your friend just died?
His best friend died in he still went crazy that year it was a dumb question talk about a bad game ai had not practice that reporter was on crack
@Aronjo apparently a couple of his teammates said he usually was in practice so idk.
@@ncm2738 So? Thats not an excuse Isaiah Thomas PLAYED A GAME after someone is his family died no excuse
@@HitByAPlane that's BS, Iverson had a funeral to attend during that practice, then lost that game and had to deal with a interview about trade talk, that's enough for anyone to snap.
the poster boy of the phrase "talent will only carry you so far"
theunwelcome yea, the talent of other players lmao
Yeah to the NBA Hall of fame. Real tragic stuff lol
you're delusional if you think only "talent" led him to a top 100 nba career.
To quote A.I.: Carried his ass to the HoF
@Andrew Sloan mmm, salty
fun fact after the rant about coming off the bench, pop benched duncan in their following game lmao
Pop with the Ultimate troll
Gotta love Pop
duncan was a great because he was more of a team guy than Iverson
AQGOAT24 Duncan also had a stacked team along the best coach in the league...
@@oullerslb if I had the skills of Allen Iverson and Teams like the spurs or the Lakers and had coaches like Pop and Phil Jackson I would win Championships after Championship.. Having a great coach plus great players who will listen and believe in that coaches system will win you Championships
Iverson wanted scorers, the 6ers gave him Keith Van Horn and Todd McCullough. 😂
Van Horn was pretty good, Todd McCullough was trash..
He wanted scorers but he's a ballhog who never passes? lmao
@@kenrickeason ^ Van Horn why not, but Todd was just another bum on a bum supporting cast.
@@dusk6159 Right! LMAO 😂😂
He wanted scorers he never would've passed to.
SB Nation years from now: "How James Harden Kept Disappearing in the Most Crucial Moments in the Playoffs."
its simple. he just didn't have the work ethic, the way MJ or Kobe did. and got distracted by whatever he was doing at the time
Iverson the realest to ever play, heart on his sleeve and never backed down.
FACTS
He made us all wear sleeves too lol
*total ass who was a terrible pro and deserved exactly the 0 rings he got
Jack *one of the greatest players of all time and a first ballot hall of famer. Fixed it for ya
TechKing196 THANK YOU
Iverson’s best teammate was 24 year old Melo. That’s it.
And they had the same playstyle so it didn’t work. If he was with someone like dirk or ray allen it could’ve been a different story
Mitch Gill Yeah they kept bringing in random ass players and washed up role players, you obviously need some of those guys but for god sakes get Allen another scoring threat
Except AI was better. And he didn't decline as hard as Melo.
They played different positions. Pippen & Jordan had similar playing styles, so did Isiah & Dumars and Frazier & Pearl. Not saying they were exactly the same, but similar. Good talent like Melo & Stackhouse didn't want to play w/ AI long term, cause AI needed to be a gunner, and would never buy into a team concept. And he did it on poor efficiency. His ego was built to be the primary option, but his stature was not (not w/ decent efficiency anyways). Jordan was a gunner too, but did it on good efficiency.
And behind him mitumbo
Iverson: I want more scorers!
Sixers: Scorers? Of course! We got you Todd McCullough!
Iverson: I don't think that word means what you think it means
Keith Van Horn was considered a pretty decent scorer at the time. He was even on the cover of NBA Jam 99!
Seriously though, the NBA had a bit of a drought in talent at the time, and Van Horn wasn't terrible. Just not all star level.
@deon harris You mean someone like Van Horn or something, Todd was simply another bum, especially in 2001, to top off that weak 76ers supporting cast.
More scorers he won't ever pass the ball to? They wouldn't be scorers anymore if they don't get touches.
Kobe, and all the top scorers of basketball history don’t pass the ball either they had better scorers most of their career. You can’t score over 20 a game for your career with out shooting a lot of balls
@@AllthesmokeFS despite Kobe's reputation as a ball hog, other scorers on the team actually got to score as well.
In his later years, could’ve been that generations Lou Williams. 6-man on a competitive team where he can chip in 16-24 points a game, but is behind a strong starting 5 that shares and moves the ball and allows him certain moments in the 4th because of the teams overall defence.
When Iverson was on, he was a monster scorer, but was never going to win a championship playing his way. He was a wildly inn efficient scorer, that never had great pieces in his later years in Philly as a point guard.
His off the court antics were so ridiculous and for a guy that spent time in prison, you’d think he would’ve been so humble and worked with whatever coach and gm he had to make sure his team won. But he didn’t. He had a massive ego compared to someone like Kobe or Jordan who were incredible scorers but played within a system and held themselves accountable, while playing incredible defence. Iverson didn’t do those things, and while his stats can influence on the game may be HOF worthy. I think Iverson the teammate and guy is not.
both MJ and Kobe were originally arrogant and prideful too. But MJ learned he couldn't do it by himself and playing the way he thought was the best when he got trounced by Detroit. Kobe learned that during the Smush/Kwame years. AI never learned. Great player to watch but hard to cheer for. In today's NBA Westbrook is very similar unfortunately. Fantastic to watch, gives 105% effort every game but stubborn to the point of detriment
Iverson winning game one of that championship series is one of the biggest statement games in NBA history. Sure he never won a championship, but he left an unforgettable mark.
So it seems like he kinda chose his pride over career accomplishments.
@Mitch Gill he was a ballhog and shitty teammate he did it to himself
At least he has gotten his Ego in check post retirement and is now one of the most respectful former players who doesn't have a problem complimenting people who have surpassed him.
Mitch Gill imagine thinking that lol
@Mitch Gill i feel like AI and Melo fans think the same
6.2? assists with no other scoring threat on his team says otherwise..thats great for a SG, MJ averaged 6assists for his career too ya know? Im a Bulls fan though im sure no one cares hahaha
I feel like that 2001 Philly team was almost tailor made for AI. It was literally him and a bunch of guys who picked up the slack for him. And it worked.
But that style will only get you so far. They ran into the Lakers.
That team wasn't built to succeed in the finals.
Exactly right. It was more like a double edged sword with A.I. That team was built particularly for him to play his game. But you’re not gonna win a championship that way. He’s still an All Time Great, but his biggest problem was that he didn’t know how or even wanted to learn how to conform.
I wouldn't blame Iverson for that 01 loss. That Lakers team was UNDEFEATED that year in the Playoffs and Iverson gave them their only loss. When's the last time u remember a team having a playoff run like those Lakers? Any team who went up against that Lakers team would've lost they were basically a cheat code. Sixers just got unlucky they had to face a team so powerful. That was their year but damn the Lakers they just had too much
@@crosswiz6 nah, I aint blaming AI at all. What I mean is, he could only do so much.
He really didnt have a choice but to be ball dominant.
What I'm saying, is that style would only take them so far, they should've given Iverson a better running mate.
@@yapyap3 Yea but that style worked at least that year, that style was responsible for the Lakers ONLY loss in those playoffs..so the formula was working but Lakers were just way too much Sixers just had the luck to face off against that juggernaut Lakers squad, any style would've fallen to those Lakers.. I never understood why they never gave Iverson better scoring options..if he had a squad like Denver on the East they probably would've won a chip or two
@@crosswiz6 true
Allen Iverson didn't like coaching, direction, and was undisciplined at times. Along with his selfish attitude hindered his chances at winning an NBA title. These were some of the factors that contributed to his demise as a player and shortened the possibility of more longevity in his NBA career.
it's also why his post career humility cements him as an all time great athlete. easy to forget these men are people too (see practice rant). he has nothing but love for the younger generation of players, inclined to celebrate them. his player tribune articles are all time classics. allen iverson was the essence of cool when he played but on the floor nobody would outwork him. he deserved a championship
@Mitch Gill
Listen up dumbass bum! I'm pretty sure I chose my words very carefully by clearly saying these were some of the factors that contributed to his demise. What does that mean dummy? In layman's terms, this list isn't all inclusive.
@Mitch Gill Exactly man these people are sheep.. Ai went from averaging 26.4/7.2 a game on the Nuggets to being a bench player the next season they clearly did that to push him out the league
@Mitch Gill
Please! You didn't put me on game or tell me anything that I wasn't already aware of, but thanks for my wasting my time and yours.
@Mitch Gill
Says the actual crackhead who thinks Chris Paul and AI are the same.
Paul is a pass-first guard and had great leadership. Iverson is a shoot-first-pass-later guard and wasn't a consistent jump shooter.
Oh yeah, Manu Ginobili and Kevin McHale says hi.
Certainly one of the most toxic World Class performers I've ever seen in the entire sports world.
@Samuel Fagbemi or what
He was more chill in his retirement days tho. Loves the new generation of players rn unlike Shaq
Wow thanks for this video. I do have to agree, Iverson not willing to change to coming off the bench is probably one of his downfalls and also his ego got in the way of him winning a ring.
Allen Iverson is the one NBA legend I sincerely wish had a ring.
😔
What about Elgin Baylor?
Narwhal Live V2 way before your time young blood , Iverson was a generational talent . Kids don’t speak about Baylor
Tora Chan Iverson played every game like it was his last. Even if he partied a lot. That’s why he’s one of the greatest to never win a ring.
I am glad he doesn't have one. Shitty teammate and ballhog
Even though he never won a championship, Allen Iverson is one of the best guards to ever play the game. He was basically unstoppable in his prime.
One of the greatest icons second to Jordan.
@@4th19th2 kobe enters the chat*
@@4th19th2 Kobe Bryant (R.I.P.) is second to Jordan. Modeled his court game and persona off that of M.J. and was the closest thing we've seen to His Airness.
@@4th19th2 You meant for shooting guards, right?
@Mitch Gill --- Lol!!!!
"I had forewarned Reebok of Allen's extreme spending habits and advised them to include the clause that he can't access his trust fund until 2030."
- TK Kirkland.
He did walk out on one of there commercials mid shooting. So that shows you how much effort he gave you.
What is al the tk kirkland quotes he really sad those things?
“In do or die game five, the sixers were doin’ more than dyin’” such a solid line
"I don´t know any olympian come off the bench, I don´t know any all star come off the bench..." Well, Manu Ginobili´s got a gold and a bronze olympic medal and 4 rings. The difference? Team mentality, ZERO EGO.
Someone should do "the creation of SB nation deserves a deep rewind"
Nah, they shouldn't
They should wait and do that for their 1 Million subscriber celebration 😁
An advice to young talented players; don't be uncoachable and don't be a diva.
And letting his pride get in the way of things as well..
Yeah that was the *answer* for AI's no ring career 😭
@@CBarber22 did you really just compare AI and Farmar? AI should be compared to Kobe, DWade, MJ, Curry, as all of them are superstars. In that group, only AI hated practice and did not show true leadership. He's a true alpha, sure, but his ego got the better of him.
Muamar Miranda I don’t think you understood what he said, he’s not comparing him he’s just saying that’s even though an average player has 2 rings people would rather have Iversons career due to his hall of fame abilities and skill
And don't play during the most corrupt era when the refs threw games in favor of the Lakers. The the devil always collects though. Kobe and David Stern both gone within a year.
When you’re up against Shaq and Kobe with a bad squad like that. Honestly that’s as close to a title as you can get and that’s not bad.
Edit: I do recognize his ball hog ways made him harder to play with or coach.
Kevin Davidson and then that Detroit team
His squad wasn’t bad at all clown
Should’ve been bucks in there they got robbed
Slipknot5301 chill man.
@@brown_xkmd486 His team was bad and Mutombo didn't join that sixers team til Feb he wasn't always on it... Mckie only won 6th man cause of the Sixers record he only averaged 12 ppg that season which is trash he never would win that in the league now
Iverson was great and he knew it. He couldve been greater but he didnt want to, he already thought he was the greatest.
A.I. is one of the most underrated, talented and unique players in NBA history. A true basketball icon!
Sad thing is they never got him another star in Philadelphia, he carried that team to whatever success they had!
He should have did like lebron did when he saw Cleveland wasn’t gonna give him any help
Imagine him with another superstar though🤯
And check this kid out too he's pretty good and this is his first ever song
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@@cskg-7160 Carmelo Anthony in denver?
What saddens me is that they're probably going to need to do one for Chris Paul.
Rip that cp3 Lakers trade
I feel like Chris will be more willing to come off the bench and help out a championship squad in the last few years of his career. He's not nearly as stubborn as A.I. was
bearcat 212 steph curry
@@yahstino Nah AI was an all star the yr before and now they want him off the bench that's bullshit
@@KingoftheJungle214 lol what ?
Todd Mccollough who could score in the paint????? That can't be an actual legit statement....
lildubuoy almost turned the video off after that. Ridiculous statement. Then the blame AI coming back to retire as a sixer on him “not learning the team oriented offense”
Oof, his head coach urging him to pass the ball and show up to practice, only for him to leave and win a championship the very next year has to sting.
Brown had a reputation for his short stints with teams, yet the longest he stayed with any of them, pro or collegiate, was with Iverson and the Sixers (six years). He then left and immediately went back to the Finals twice with Detroit and won a title, while Iverson again never came close to the heights Brown reached without him. Their beef is long over, and Iverson even admitted Brown was right about him and his bad habits all along. Now they're friendly, but Brown will never have an Untitled episode about him. AI learned the hard way
A.I was an amazing guard, but his ego and bad decisions cost him a ring. Period.
No matter how good you are after awhile being good will not save you from yourself
Ai was 5ft11 buck 50 it's crazy to see how we even thrived in that era
Na, he was never in a good enough team. He took damn near the worst roster in the league to the finals. It's his decision if he doesn't want to win a ring coming off the bench. He said he'd rather retire, and he did. He's not crying about it. Gotta respect it
@@jasongibbs3713A player with a real attitude, he is a legend we will never forget about
Appreciate y'all for showing the full context for that practice clip
Allen Iverson accomplished the most with less help than anyone in NBA history. The fact that he never won a ring is not his fault at all. He can only do so much.
As a fan of A.I. this is very painful 💔 thats for posting this. From an old school nets fan. Thank you SB Nation.
His refusal to put aside his pride in order to win is what will forever keep him as being remembered good instead of great
The parallels between him and Melo are uncanny
A mamba type of mentality and work ethic along with losing some of that personal pride and stubbornness to go along with his elite and unique skill set as a basketball player probably would've resulted in Allen Iverson winning at least one nba title maybe even two.
exactly bruh
He just needed a better team that's all
He had the skill and talent but he barely practiced like rarely lol
AI was really fun to watch, but he was mainly a street baller. He’s the kid when you’re playing pickup who is the best pure scorer out there, but whose team always loses because he takes every shot and doesn’t know how to help teammates score when he’s out there getting tripled up. With less pride and more willingness to listen and learn, he could have played his whole career in Philly and won multiple rings.
A.I's assist numbers actually went up in the second half of his career. In Philly he was the main offensive option which is why he maybe didn't pass as much as he should've
This just proves that one person can’t get it done. Heartbreaking honestly
Aside Lebron and Hakeem, but AI really would be another prime example, though in its best possible/positive way.
If he didn't run into all-time teams or Shaq and Kobe in their prime year then, even at his size, who knows.
I remember he went back to the Sixers, that was strange.
no what was strange was seeing him on the gr
Once he started wearing that headband every game he began his fall, without that headband on he was truly the best and unstoppable
"while his ring finger might be naked" 😂😂😂😂 the disrespect
lol
I will always drool a potential Nowitzki-Iverson duo had Philadelphia selected Dirk instead of Larry Hughes
Hindsight 2020 lol...Pistons drafted Darko Milicic
They probably still wouldn’t have won a title. Allen was too dependent on iso-ball.
AI had all the heart and determination to become the best basketball player he could, unfortunately he didn't have any heart and determination to change as a person and get his ego in check.
think about it this way, his "ego" may just be the thing that propelled him all the way to NBA and a championship candidate
Allen Iverson stepping over Tyronn Lue definitely should have made the Lakers just forfeit and give him the ring
Gay
Erik Led it's almost like i wasn't being serious
Chemistry + defense + good ball movement = pure dominance
Theo Ratliff's career-altering(and by altering i mean ending) injury is why the sixers fizzled out in the 2000s. Ratliff had intangibles that fit iverson perfectly, the 76ers were beating elite teams in 2000-2001 with Ratliff at center because of Ratliff's quickness, athleticism, mobility and energy. Mutumbo was a short-term fix but long-term failure.
Man he was underrated
I was waiting on this 😭
So that's where Melo got it from...
Yep
Finally
We been waiting for this
Allen Iverson deserved to be a championship it’s heartbreaking to know he never got a championship he was generational talent
mrcrowley956 if he would’ve just accepted a bench role on a contender he’d have one. He just refused to play less as he got older. It’s his own fault.
gunjac86 on some levels I agree his ego got in his way
Mitch Gill also agreed if he had co star and a decent cast he would’ve won one but remember the west coast had the best teams and the East had good teams in the mid 2000s
Mitch Gill I can see that AI was rebellious and had a idgaf attitude
Mitch Gill I’m pretty sure it’s documented, but a lot of stars didn’t want to play with AI. Nobody wanted to play second fiddle to a guy who never passed the ball.
He was always his own worst enemy. It’s sad. It also makes me realize how much we gloss over his careeer.
Iverson was mad shelfish I can see why he didn’t win
You should do an Untitled on TMac
Jay Villa one word... Injuries
@Mitch Gill a prime Vince/TMac duo could've won a title or 2 during the mid 2000s
And also Vince Carter as well
@@wazzup233 Underachieving and disappearing when needed the most
Sitting 7 rows behind the net during Sixers vs Raptors 2001 playoffs, second round was the greatest event I’ve ever been to. Iverson 54pts vs Vinsanity 28pts was so exciting to watch. After that he beat Mad Dawg, Sam Cassel and Ray Allen in 7 games. The problem was Everybody in Philly that I knew and all the people they knew so on and so forth knew everybody in the NBA was just playing for second place that season.
The Diesel was on another level. Shaq took one of the greatest defensive centers of all time in Mutumbo and turned him into a female. No matter how many double/triple teams Philly sent at him the guy embarrassed us. I have this old newspaper cutout from the Philadelphia Inquire with all five 76ers players, including little AI hands up surrounding Shaq while he dunks it on our entire team. It was special to watch Shaq vs Iverson battle it out though. I’m not a religious person, so AI was god in Reeboks to me, but it just so happen Shaq was the planet that Al lived on.
To be fair Mutumbo had a really bad hand injury so he was practically guarding the best center in the league one handed
Denis Tuohy I disagree 150% guy avg 17 pts 13rebs few blocks normal Mutumbo stats he was the Mutumbo as old he just couldn’t do anything against Shaq. I’m huge 76ers fan and that hand injury is a load of bullshit! So many players are banged up by that time spare me with the excuses. He got bodied period.
Y’all be dropping heat luv these vids
In 2050, if there is a NBA, it'll look back at its history around the turn of the century and eulogize Magic-Bird, MJ, Lebron-Steph, and maybe even Kobe-Shaq. By all right that history should include AI, but it won't. He could not consistently trust any coach, teammate, or process more than his own desire to score at will. He had a remarkably headstrong idea that he could be Michael Jordan at PG if things just went his way, but in the end he was simply a strong competitor, not a winner. I wish him the best.
Nah, Iverson will always be remembered. He was literally a cultural icon. Perhaps not in your culture I suppose but yeah.
@@michaelj9277 cultural icons are easily forgotten when trends change
These should be considered 30for30 shorts these are just as good at damm near a third of time very nice job guys
Sad he just got in his own way
Marcus Rosenberg and lacked consistent championship work ethic
Sad because his heart and passion is almost unmatched, then of course facing all-time teams while carrying a team doesn't help at all.
he just didnt understand winning basketball. Not taking practice seriously and shi. How is the team supposed to develop even if there was talent?
He was a toxic Superstar who was never gonna put the team first. He just wasn't built that way.
Seems like kobe and shaq got in his way. He would have won otherwise.
This guy and Muggsy Bogues are the perfect examples of playing much bigger than their size.
also IT if he wasn't injured..
I'd love to see a Marino or a Barry Sanders Untitled
Is an Untitled chapter worthwhile when the answer is "Detroit Lions"?
Marino
Dolphins could not get him a defense.
@@aroobism I definitely hope they do that one next
@@franciscoduran4618 lol, you could bunch megatron into the same episode
Iverson should've taken notes from guys like Kevin McHale, Mark Aguirre, Ray Allen, Manu Ginobilil and many others who sacrificed their stats for the sake of being apart of a winning team, even though most of them easily could've led a team themselves.
It seems like forgotten to history is how well Tyronn Lue defended AI in the 2001 Finals. Iverson scored a lot of points off his sheer volume of shots, but Lue prevented Iverson from driving by overplaying AI’s right hand. Iverson wasn’t nearly as good with his left hand as his right.
He actually did.