Glad you liked my idea.I do like running in water so had already experimented with star cut EPP foams. These were too dense so when I saw one of these donuts in a pound shop I had a light builb moment. I use 100mm donuts in my Rowdy 1.9's and 110mm one in my Wraith running 2.2 HPI Rock Grabbers. The smaller ones are available form B & M Bargains for £1 each and the larger sizes from Poundstretcher for the same amount. After coming up with the idea someone pointed out that there is a commercially available product that use different sizes of EPP inner ring to allow tuning for heavier trucks www.ottsix.com/halo-webwrap-foam?fbclid=IwAR1BIFYc4IOqpPEwwfK8lgVknkCNlieLCtT_VTMcUQMa8EkQuIP9-_qGpxw By sheer co-incidence that's what I used on my Wraith at first as I couldn't find the larger size. Here's it running with that set up th-cam.com/video/ab8dtHDTyso/w-d-xo.html
Oh wow I was hoping I’d find out where the idea came from! Thank you so much for trying something like this and putting it out there. It’s transformed my rigs
@@JustScalin I'm just gald others have tried and liked them. I was fed up with stock foams degrading due to water damage so figured it was worth a shot. Being spun plastic they should be impervious. A local club mate did a video after seeing my Wraith wheels and tyres set up with a packer and outer donut th-cam.com/video/yMwhosy6Qyo/w-d-xo.html He went for a larger size to support his heavy rig
Good stuff, tbh the person who came up with selling a bit of foam for £50 is a genius too. I was trying to think of an alternative to paying through the nose for some sponge.
Just used these for the first trail rock crawl. I used the large (8.75 cm) and they worked an absolute treat. Suuuper Soft, grips like gorilla climbing a building. I have used the 11cm for trail driving they work a treat also just firmer.
Lol, I bought some XXL hair buns (120mm), and they are a bit too small for my new Proline Hyrax tyres (which are 145mm outer diameter).... Not much choice in the way of 14-16cm hair buns, at cheap prices! They do fit in my 2.2" Losi Rock Claws, which I'll probably fit to a spare set of rims, for a wet weather / mud trailing wheelset :-)
As an update, I've now bought a set of large (10cm) ones, for my new TRX4 Sport running the stock Traxxas Canyon tyres on 1.9" alloy beadlock wheels. The hair buns are £1 each in this size thankfully!
@@ricardoruiz58 they worked ok, not as compliant as single stage foam with poor side hilling but completely waterproof. Can't compare to dual stage as I haven't tried those, can only think they would be inferior. There is something to them as ottsix (?) offer a dual stage with this stuff wrapped round the outer.
Damned ,search for waterproof foams so long! I use Pro Line closed cell ,now there are wear out .Today i use A.L.T. waterproof foams (not cheap but very nice performance).Damned now i want to test this!!
@@MrEggertaler sorry kann auch Ebelin heissen wichtig ist nur 4 vom gleichen Hersteller im Durchmesser 9cm! Die fallen sonst meist unterschiedlich aus.Fahrzeug Traxxas TRX4 Sport 2,9 kg 1.9 Pit Bull Rock Beast mit Stahl Beadlock Felgen. Habe schon einige Videos auf meinem Kanal in denen ich diese Einlagen eingesetzt habe.ist vielleicht nix für Comp aber für Hobbyfahrer die auch viel durchs Wasser crawlen zur Zeit noch optimal.
I wonder if the reason why they work so good is that they're round. Like round on the sides whereas conventional phones are flat on the sides. One of my tuning secrets is getting the profile of the foam to match the inner profile of the tire. I literally reshape the foam insert.
Seeing this a year later and just did this before I saw the video I found the bigger size for mu 2.2 tires and just found 4 for my 1.9 tires and can't wait to put them in
Hi I Just got some 10.9cm for my ftx outback 2 ranger I have put the hair buns in the tyres and refitted the beadlocks and there very very hard so should I put them in all four wheels so there hard all round, in just the front, in just the back or put the original foam back in so there's soft again I have tried looking on the tinterwebanet but I can't find an answer any help/info would be great
Just come across this video and interested in trying these but the link is dead now Any pointers as to where I could find these things preferably in the UK TIA Geoff 👍🏻
These look amazing. I would like to try to source them in South Africa, but I need a closer look at what they look like, it's hard to tell in the video. Please share a link or photo?
They are “hair donut maker” if you search Google they should turn up. Here’s a link to an image: www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F61TaL7MqWHL._AC_SX425_.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FSiChun-Bundle-Brown-Chignon-Ballet%2Fdp%2FB00S1T7QXQ&tbnid=uKhWjt7ss4KCSM&vet=1&docid=8fVFocXXI5FTEM&w=425&h=421&hl=en-gb&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim
Bought mine from the link in the description as I didn’t want to shop for them. However loads of people report getting them from pound shops or dollar stores
Great idea, and Gmade do have a set of pneumatic tyres. Main issue is that rock crawling does cause a lot of small tears and cuts to the casing, so one little cut and you've got a flat tyre
Yeah, I must have remembered it wrong when I filmed it. Bigger ones will be firmer so it depends on truck weight. My trucks are 2.45 and 3.5kg and a 10.5 seems good for them
@@JustScalin 100mm ones (£1 each at B&M Bragains) are ok for 120mm 1.9's . Here they are in action on my HPI Venture FJ cruiser inside some Chinese Hyrax's at the SST event th-cam.com/video/xcCcPArLBN0/w-d-xo.html
Content is great but have to do something about those audio levels man… goes from can’t even hear you talking to obnoxious music at a volume level that could wake the dead.
B&M sell the 100mm ones and Poundstretcher sell the larger ones. Cheaper and quicker than buying from China. Dual stage can be made by cutting an inner ring out of EPP packing foam. I use a cut up compact aersol for the hub and a bigger can for the outer size.
Hard to take this information seriously when you louise rowdy is good tire.🤣 It might work in trailing etc, but just for fun compare it to any proline predator compound tire on the rocks.. Other thing I noticed that you don’t went your tires apparently? Would love to see how this combo works in real sidehills with grippy surface. Just can’t see how it could work, but I might be wrong🤷♂️
The Louise Rowdy is a good all-round tyre and works great in all scenarios, but I do run Pro-Line Trenchers for technical crawling. After this video I did properly vent my tyres, but clearly if they are letting air in and out they are vented sufficiently to be classed as vented aren't they? Because of the thick sidewalls of the Louise this tyre performed fine on off-camber surfaces and grippy rocks: th-cam.com/video/WmnHNfISXbE/w-d-xo.html
@@JustScalin that video was really nice. 👌 Did it just look like or was the rocks wet? I did notice that tire didnt collapse under at any point which is awesome no matter what tire you are using. I just have so horrible experiences with rowdys myself. Lugs are just too big and wide apart for rocks in my opinion and thats why there is no grip at all compared to the predator trenchers for example. Might be also dofferent kinda rocks overhere in finland.
It was a bit damp not super wet though. It will make a difference on the type of rock for sure, as well as a variety of other factors related to truck setup.
In this video it was on a 10t pinion with a Hobbywing Axe 550 3300kv, I've since moved to a 12t pinion so it's even faster but has more speed band in 1st.
Glad you liked my idea.I do like running in water so had already experimented with star cut EPP foams. These were too dense so when I saw one of these donuts in a pound shop I had a light builb moment. I use 100mm donuts in my Rowdy 1.9's and 110mm one in my Wraith running 2.2 HPI Rock Grabbers. The smaller ones are available form B & M Bargains for £1 each and the larger sizes from Poundstretcher for the same amount. After coming up with the idea someone pointed out that there is a commercially available product that use different sizes of EPP inner ring to allow tuning for heavier trucks www.ottsix.com/halo-webwrap-foam?fbclid=IwAR1BIFYc4IOqpPEwwfK8lgVknkCNlieLCtT_VTMcUQMa8EkQuIP9-_qGpxw By sheer co-incidence that's what I used on my Wraith at first as I couldn't find the larger size. Here's it running with that set up th-cam.com/video/ab8dtHDTyso/w-d-xo.html
Oh wow I was hoping I’d find out where the idea came from! Thank you so much for trying something like this and putting it out there. It’s transformed my rigs
@@JustScalin I'm just gald others have tried and liked them. I was fed up with stock foams degrading due to water damage so figured it was worth a shot. Being spun plastic they should be impervious. A local club mate did a video after seeing my Wraith wheels and tyres set up with a packer and outer donut th-cam.com/video/yMwhosy6Qyo/w-d-xo.html He went for a larger size to support his heavy rig
Good stuff, tbh the person who came up with selling a bit of foam for £50 is a genius too. I was trying to think of an alternative to paying through the nose for some sponge.
Just used these for the first trail rock crawl. I used the large (8.75 cm) and they worked an absolute treat. Suuuper Soft, grips like gorilla climbing a building. I have used the 11cm for trail driving they work a treat also just firmer.
What size would you use in 1.9’s
Lol, I bought some XXL hair buns (120mm), and they are a bit too small for my new Proline Hyrax tyres (which are 145mm outer diameter).... Not much choice in the way of 14-16cm hair buns, at cheap prices!
They do fit in my 2.2" Losi Rock Claws, which I'll probably fit to a spare set of rims, for a wet weather / mud trailing wheelset :-)
As an update, I've now bought a set of large (10cm) ones, for my new TRX4 Sport running the stock Traxxas Canyon tyres on 1.9" alloy beadlock wheels. The hair buns are £1 each in this size thankfully!
First video of yours and I already love your channel!
Amazing, thank you!
Subbed and liked, thanks for the heads up. For US viewers these are available at dollar tree for $1 each, gonna try on my Redcat Gen 7.
Awesome, thanks for the info too
How'd this work out for you? I also have a gen 7 redcat and I'm curious
@@ricardoruiz58 they worked ok, not as compliant as single stage foam with poor side hilling but completely waterproof. Can't compare to dual stage as I haven't tried those, can only think they would be inferior. There is something to them as ottsix (?) offer a dual stage with this stuff wrapped round the outer.
Excellent informative video! Great work.
Damned ,search for waterproof foams so long! I use Pro Line closed cell ,now there are wear out .Today i use A.L.T. waterproof foams (not cheap but very nice performance).Damned now i want to test this!!
I have tried Mebelin Hairdonuts and i am impressed,do some though climbs i have problems with my stock foams and even with A.L.T. waterproof foams!
Meinst du die Ebelin Hairdonuts vom DM? Mit welchem Auto hast du die ausprobiert?
@@MrEggertaler sorry kann auch Ebelin heissen wichtig ist nur 4 vom gleichen Hersteller im Durchmesser 9cm! Die fallen sonst meist unterschiedlich aus.Fahrzeug Traxxas TRX4 Sport 2,9 kg 1.9 Pit Bull Rock Beast mit Stahl Beadlock Felgen. Habe schon einige Videos auf meinem Kanal in denen ich diese Einlagen eingesetzt habe.ist vielleicht nix für Comp aber für Hobbyfahrer die auch viel durchs Wasser crawlen zur Zeit noch optimal.
@@ka4172 Ich habe einen TRX4 Defender mit original Bereifung und Beadlocks. Die gibt es wohl in 3 Größen?! Hast du die mittleren drin?
I wonder if the reason why they work so good is that they're round. Like round on the sides whereas conventional phones are flat on the sides. One of my tuning secrets is getting the profile of the foam to match the inner profile of the tire. I literally reshape the foam insert.
Cheers Joe, ordered a set to try :)
Hope you enjoy them as much as me. I had the truck underwater and the tyres leaked and didn’t even notice as the donuts held up fine
Seeing this a year later and just did this before I saw the video I found the bigger size for mu 2.2 tires and just found 4 for my 1.9 tires and can't wait to put them in
could really use a link or full name .. as all i find is frilly folded cloth ones ??..... Im not a FB member so ?
What size hair bun thing did you use?
Ebay link not working anymore. 😕
Wow that’s awesome. What are they called for I can order some
Hi I Just got some 10.9cm for my ftx outback 2 ranger I have put the hair buns in the tyres and refitted the beadlocks and there very very hard so should I put them in all four wheels so there hard all round, in just the front, in just the back or put the original foam back in so there's soft again I have tried looking on the tinterwebanet but I can't find an answer any help/info would be great
Link doesn't work is there another one?
What’s the best size to use in 1.9 wheels and it’s a heavy ish trx4 thanks
Just come across this video and interested in trying these but the link is dead now
Any pointers as to where I could find these things preferably in the UK
TIA
Geoff 👍🏻
Fantastic video Joe ill be getting some. Would you say that they would work in the heavier defender or get the next size up?
From what I’m seeing on Facebook you’d need a 11.5-12.5. The ones you saw me using today were 10.5’s
Great video. Subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
These look amazing. I would like to try to source them in South Africa, but I need a closer look at what they look like, it's hard to tell in the video. Please share a link or photo?
They are “hair donut maker” if you search Google they should turn up. Here’s a link to an image: www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F61TaL7MqWHL._AC_SX425_.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FSiChun-Bundle-Brown-Chignon-Ballet%2Fdp%2FB00S1T7QXQ&tbnid=uKhWjt7ss4KCSM&vet=1&docid=8fVFocXXI5FTEM&w=425&h=421&hl=en-gb&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim
@@JustScalin Thanks for this, gonna head into Chinatown and have a look.
@@shannoncold Hi. Did you get some here in South Africa?
That can hold heavy rig around 10lbs to 15lbs up??
What about sidehill crawl means the sidewall for the tire?
I wouldn’t know as I wouldn’t run a rig that heavy
@@JustScalin so far so good it hold heavy rig🤘 even dont have an issue sidewall folding under the rim while sidehilling. Hopefully it will last😅
Where can i get those hair rubbers?
Dollar store, Amazon, eBay. Just search for “hair donuts”
What type of Louise tyres do you recommend?
Sorry I mean 1.9 or 2.2 crawler.
And where to buy plz
Rowdy’s if you want their most aggressive and best performing off-road tyre. Their griffins or ardents are good if you want something “scale”
Hey where did you get from because I really want to try it to myself
Bought mine from the link in the description as I didn’t want to shop for them. However loads of people report getting them from pound shops or dollar stores
What abou running no foam at all? Sealing the vent hole and a beadlock wheel? Anyone ever tried?
Great idea, and Gmade do have a set of pneumatic tyres. Main issue is that rock crawling does cause a lot of small tears and cuts to the casing, so one little cut and you've got a flat tyre
Meh, I'm sticking to ci 2 stage
How big are the tyres ? I'm wanting to do this too
Mine are 120mm tyres with 10.5mm buns
Thanks
Can you cut them I can’t find that size here in Canada. Closest is 5.5”-6”
Is it good for heavy brass rigs?
Probably going to need a bigger size for a denser foam but yeah same theory applies
The link takes you too 10.5cm?
Yeah, I must have remembered it wrong when I filmed it. Bigger ones will be firmer so it depends on truck weight. My trucks are 2.45 and 3.5kg and a 10.5 seems good for them
@@JustScalin 100mm ones (£1 each at B&M Bragains) are ok for 120mm 1.9's . Here they are in action on my HPI Venture FJ cruiser inside some Chinese Hyrax's at the SST event th-cam.com/video/xcCcPArLBN0/w-d-xo.html
Content is great but have to do something about those audio levels man… goes from can’t even hear you talking to obnoxious music at a volume level that could wake the dead.
Yeah, was still learning when I did this
Lost me a non-vented tires/wheels
Cool. No great loss though. And yeah running vented normal foams in water crossings is obviously the greatest idea ever ...
Bought four from Poundland at £1 each. Put them in my new Duratrax Showdowns and we’ll impressed!
I’m running Louise Rowdy’s which are the same tyre. Gotta say the tyre was already immense but it’s amazing with these
B&M sell the 100mm ones and Poundstretcher sell the larger ones. Cheaper and quicker than buying from China. Dual stage can be made by cutting an inner ring out of EPP packing foam. I use a cut up compact aersol for the hub and a bigger can for the outer size.
Bun mesh link is not working. I am going to try it out. Will they fit a standard stock wheel?
Just look for 10-10.5cm hair-buns and that would work. They should fit standard 1.9 crawler wheels with 4.6-4.8 tyres
Sum guy has sum 3d printed foams that are good thing its called anti foam
Yeah we’ve been chatting, they are cool
I am wondering how they would do with double wrap wheel weight rims.
Probably fine. I'm not a huge fan of weight on the wheels personally
I saw you running the showdown tires I had to try them on my trx4 wow are they crazy good
Yeah they are my fave all rounder for just going out and having good grip. Testing others on my LCG rig but in the summer rowdy’s were fine
The link to ebay is dead, pls give a new link
Just search for “hair donuts”
Well thanks.... ordered some a few days ago
I hope you enjoy them, they are working amazingly well for me. I vented my tyres too and even running in water doesn't seem to stop them!
I use 8 cm hair buns in rc4wd trail buster 1.9 tyres they work great
Where do I order them
eBay, Amazon, dollar store / pound shop
Hard to take this information seriously when you louise rowdy is good tire.🤣 It might work in trailing etc, but just for fun compare it to any proline predator compound tire on the rocks..
Other thing I noticed that you don’t went your tires apparently? Would love to see how this combo works in real sidehills with grippy surface. Just can’t see how it could work, but I might be wrong🤷♂️
The Louise Rowdy is a good all-round tyre and works great in all scenarios, but I do run Pro-Line Trenchers for technical crawling.
After this video I did properly vent my tyres, but clearly if they are letting air in and out they are vented sufficiently to be classed as vented aren't they?
Because of the thick sidewalls of the Louise this tyre performed fine on off-camber surfaces and grippy rocks: th-cam.com/video/WmnHNfISXbE/w-d-xo.html
@@JustScalin that video was really nice. 👌 Did it just look like or was the rocks wet? I did notice that tire didnt collapse under at any point which is awesome no matter what tire you are using.
I just have so horrible experiences with rowdys myself. Lugs are just too big and wide apart for rocks in my opinion and thats why there is no grip at all compared to the predator trenchers for example. Might be also dofferent kinda rocks overhere in finland.
It was a bit damp not super wet though. It will make a difference on the type of rock for sure, as well as a variety of other factors related to truck setup.
What motor setup is in the g wagon
In this video it was on a 10t pinion with a Hobbywing Axe 550 3300kv, I've since moved to a 12t pinion so it's even faster but has more speed band in 1st.
@@JustScalin wow that's awesome. I have a fusion 1800 KV with a 15t pinion in my g wagon. It's perfect !