I can concur. The first template I made, for commercial purposes, I was worried about it's accuracy over time... a couple years and 1,000+ parts later it was still able to make parts to spec.
Thanks for clearly pointing out that the guide bushing does not ride up and down with the cutter, whereas the bearing of a pattern bit does. That makes it much easier to get the right depth of cut with plunge depth, rather than buying different lengths of pattern bit. It is also comforting to hear that a pro can damage the template with a pattern bit. I thought it was only me.
Cool. I learned the same techniques back in 1976, in Shop Class. In spring 1977, my wood shop instructor hooked my up with a job at a small wood shop in town. I was hired to do all the sanding in this one-man shop. The way he made money was by working efficiently. His "day job" was in the aerospace industry in the LA basin. Pattern-making and use was in his nature. He used both methods. One his walls, hundreds of patterns that he had made for the products he designed, created and sold. So many that he used numbers, not names, for each pattern. This was way before computers, so he kept 3-ring binders full of all the products he offered, along with the patterns necessary to create each (typically multiple patterns per item; varied).
I’ve used a template and guild bushings for projects for years. Never had a problem. Takes some time but costs almost nothing and does a great job if you’re capable of making a accurate template.
The middle ground between a regular router and a full blown CNC is perhaps something like the Shaper Origin. It's "only" $2500 but it's able to follow complicated patterns that you'd have a hard time making by hand just like a CNC would.
Yes, I am considering a Shaper Origin or Yeti Smartbench for myself. BUT only to make my templates/patterns. Then I will still use a router, bushing, and template for production. I just haven't decided if the $2,500+ is worth it as I have as of yet come up against a pattern challenge that I couldn't complete with the basic tools I own. I guess I will have to get my hands on one or a few and try them for a while to really know.😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop Between the Shaper and the Yeti, I'm certain that the former is the right tool for you. Festool systainer. Small. Portable. Powerful. Check out Fabber too. It creates toolpaths for Shaper straight from your SketchUp designs. Zero learning curve for you. Thus, it fits right into your existing workflow.
Thanks Ron You've just inspired an idea that will allow me to finish a low volume manufacturing run on a very small machine. As the wood will be very thin, I can probably stack them and cut a handful at a time. What a timely and inspiring video. I can 3D print my templates too. Perfect!
I don't carve as I assume 99% of carpenters don't. My methods work for me as a home builder, remodeler and carpenter. If I ever needed carving, I would hire a pro with those skills. I do on occasion have to carve a rail intersection, but I do so with a grinder fitted with a sanding disk and even then out of 500+ rails I have only had to carve less than 10x. My mission here is to show a method that works in the woodworking construction world that doesn't require a big investment but is very accurate, repeatable and fast with the tools that all woodworkers already own. I have built 200+ new homes and 1000+ remodels and not yet needed anything carved😎
I've said it before. I'll say it again. CNC machines shine at three things: 1) Intricate designs; 2) Templates, and; 3) 2.5/3D #1 enables the creation of works that would be difficult to impossible to achieve with handheld routers. #2 makes it possible to consistently turn out one, a hundred, or a thousand parts using handheld routers. #3 produces results otherwise only achievable with hand carving. As for speed, I'd accept that challenge. My CNC Factory Viper XP, with its 5'x10' vacuum bed, 10HP spindle and 10 position automatic tool changer beats a seasoned craftsman on even simple cuts, including any post processing. Perhaps most importantly, the judicious employment of a CNC machine frees a valuable craftsman for the kind of tasks they do best and enjoy more. Perhaps the best of both worlds is something you've already experienced: tools such as Shaper Origin, or the Yeti job site CNC. At $2,500 and $6,000, respectively, these machines are very affordable ways of bringing digital woodworking into the mainstream.
I like the idea of getting a Shaper Origin or Yeti to make my templates and then use the templates with my router for production. I just haven't reached a point that the time savings in template making would repay the investment. Note: everything I say is coming from the perspective of a homebuilder/remodeler working solely from a 12' trailer. I have no crew or fix based shop so I either pay a CNC shop to do things for me or come up with ways to get it done "on-site."
I have access to a couple of CNC mills and routers, and 150W lasers. These are great machines, but as Ron says they really aren’t required. My experience with them however has taught me how rarely they are needed. I have a router pantograph at home that can do most of the 2.5d/3d things that can be done on most CNC machines. For 2D I can design in the usual vector programs and print out a pattern I can trace on the pantograph.
@@TheSmartWoodshop I left a reply before seeing this and that you know about the Shaper Origin. I think it and you would be a good fit if you find yourself doing any organic shapes, otherwise, you are right about templates for your work.
Great video, I am learning everyday with your videos. Just bought a set of your smart workbench (the small one) and I am trying to find a way to get a good combination of a metric spiral upcut router bit and a bushing set to get that 3mm difference from the pattern on the plan and the final piece. Do you have any recommandations ? Do you just stick to imperial size router bit and bushing a neglect the small difference of 0.006" on the final part as those router bits seems to be more readily available in North America.
sorry for the noobe question, but i am seeing square inside edges on your patterns, and from what i understand the challenge when using this method or a $100K cnc machine is you can only get rounded corners, no square corners? you still have to finish off the inside corners with some other saw, correct? i am fascinated by learning sketchup and cnc, but feel it's probably over my paygrade.
The pattern is square but the finished horse is rounded as you can see in the video. I could square them out with chisel when the job calls for it as I do on another part of my bench, but a CNC has the same issue. Round cutters can't cut square inside corners.
You program a "dog bone" fillet for CNC. The router over cuts at the corners so the parts fit flush. For exposed joints on finer pieces, make the final pass with a small diameter bit. Then either square the inside corner, or round the outer edge.
Hey Ron I this is where the Shaper Origin comes in to make the template. Then you don’t have to store patterns. I agree with using a plunge router for the rest. 👍🏻 Thanks for all the videos!!
Great information. You commented: "At the end of the day, what I care about is what I produce, not the tools that I own." I have always thought that way, but as I've grown older and finally retired, I've pretty much gone the other way. I still make small projects, mostly for myself and family, but lean toward how cool the tools are. Such as the Paulk work benches, etc. New drills, saws, routers, etc. How that I'm retired, I don't need them, but want them. If only they had been available when I needed them. That's why my kids now call me "Jim the tool man". They also say, Dad you're not building anymore, shouldn't you let us use them. No one takes care of your tools like you do!
I have and use a hobby CNC machine and have done so for 10 years. It is great for making good patterns that can then be used manually and given to friends who only have routers and not CNC machines.
Come on Ron! Actually a professional Felder full sheet CNC cost under £40K. A CNC is about no more jigs ever. When you don't get what the high end technology do, you're definitely from an outdated time. An average CNC beats any human anytime, obviously. Try to get that a CNC works when you can do anything else, like machining when you do a glue up. That is unbeatable. Definitely. If we were both in the same area I would invite you to make you understand what my full sheet £10k CNC mill is all about. If you like I can let you challenge the machine, I still have power tools, but you will still be setting up the tools to make your jig while the CNC finishes its task. A business managing a CNC will make more money, in less time. Once you get the workflow, you do in a day what you could not achieve in a week without a CNC. I also have bushings, but it does not worth a cent now.
I could be way off in my thinking but do get results. A year ago I watched a brand new set up cut one side of my sawhorses in the same amount of time I cut 3 with my template. The set up was very automated and cost the shop just over 90K. I personally don't have a task in my workflow that would justify such an outlay of capital, but I am a carpenter, homebuilder, and remodeler, not a furniture maker. I enjoy technology and would l love to be proven wrong so I could buy one and justify it to my wife. I have one additional issue and that is space. As a mobile carpenter, I haven't figured out a way to pack it up in my trailer and set it up on the job. I don't have a physical shop, only a 12' trailer.I have considered a portable CNC to make my templates and then do the production with my router.😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop well, the shop size and the budget are not crucial, in my opinion. I see Festool setups that cost 4 times my big CNC router's price tag. A CNC can be mounted like a panel saw, so the footprint is not that big and you could store materials behind on a trailer setup. Your trailer would look empty with a proper CNC workflow. What's much important to me is to change the way to manage projects. You can't add a CNC in a traditional workflow. I believe it's the way you thought about it. That does not work, you get the problems and you don't get the perks. You want to raise a workflow from the CNC machine. This way, you save time and money every time. No time and materials wasted to make jigs, few tools needed apart the CNC, reduced job site adjustments, easy built in joinery, reduced hardware. A bit of time invested into measurement and design, and so much time saved on the job site. As long as your business goes, you capitalize on previous designs you can reproduce, partially or not, with no setup. You only do what a human is good at, what brings a lot of value. Anything else is done much quicker and more precisely by the CNC. You're also less tired at the end of the day, and you do not get a lot of pain as you carry light machined parts most of the time. You talked about tabs to hold the parts, but it ain't necessary. Vacuum bed or pads can be made by the CNC and holds any parts. So you get ready to assembly parts. Some parts can be made with embedded clip lock joinery, or built in features that replace hardware. If you are skilled enough in digital fabrication, CNC is an incredible powerful tool. But you need first to give up most of what you were used to and think digital natively. Not a SketchUp to cutting list to do the job yourself, but engineer your parts for quick and easy assembly, direct from computer to machine. It works whatever your working field or workshop size. It's a state of mind first.
@@axelSixtySix I need every tool I have to frame, side, trim, set cabinets, nail down hardwood, install doors, cut in locksets, and so on. I don't see a CNC helping me much with most tasks required when building a house. I am a home builder, remodeler and only a small % of the required tasks could be done by any CNC. Cabinets and closet packs and not much else, which ARE built with a CNC by the cabinet shops I hire for such work. I don't see running back to the shop CNC to tapper cut a filler for a tight fit to the drywall, cope a piece of crown, miter a piece of door trim, etc.. I need every tool I have to build houses so the only added cost is the bushing as I already need a router, track saw, jigsaw, nailer, miter saw, drill, etc.. to do things on site. My video is for two groups: carpenters in the field and woodworkers with small shops that want or need to do more with less. I have yet to see a CNC do anything required for homebuilding that I can't already do with the tools I own and would need even if I had a CNC. CNCs are amazing but don't offer me "AS A HOMEBUILDER/REMODLER" enough to justify the investment. If I were a production cabinet maker, then I would be singing a different song.
@@TheSmartWoodshop Well said. The balance between cost effectiveness, new processes and output is very different from "cabinetry" to carpentry. And whilst all carpenters fancy themselves to have a go at furniture(cabinetry). The processes are different. We gotta make money in carpentry. So i appreciate what you are trying to convey. This does in no way detract from the fact the cabinet making tools(including CNC) are awesome. And there's is a reason they're in warehouses. Sometimes its just as cool to say that his approach is based on his experience. It's pared back simplicity. And that is skill to see it that way. So thanks for sharing. Respect.
Axel Sixtysix sounds like you enjoy sitting in front of a computer screen and some people enjoy working with their hand and using a skill set that takes years to craft. Yeah you might be tired at the end of the day. But that is why it’s called work....great job giving some good advice for workers to be efficient and repeatable Ron! Thanks
Morning! I have to both agree and disagree with you. Template routing is a good thing and has its place. So does cnc routing. It all depends on your available space, production rate, production amount, and production variability. An the last one, production variability, combined with available space, is where your argument for your method breaks down. Along with the fact that a cnc allows you to work in near parallel on something else. In the beginning you were noting how small the trailer workshop space you were using is. Which is cool; many hobbyists and small business woodworkers work in limited space. And yes, large format cnc are, well, large. They take up allot of space. But so do templates. The difference is that if you are not actively using a given template it is "dead space" not making you money. The cnc can stay busy as long as you feed it designs and materials. This, if you have limited space AND have a large number of designs you work on, the cnc makes more sense even if it is slower. It can work while you do other things and your template storage all fits on tiny computer. Or the cloud, nowadays. As to cost, a $100k cnc is asanine for most small business woodworkers. You can build your own cnc router in any size for less than $4000. There are extremely good designs that are in the $1000 to $3000 range that are fairly easy to build, reliable, and you can build them arge enough to feed it a full sheet of plywood or build the small, your choice. There is even a newish design called the MPCNC (Mostly Printed CNC) that uses steel (or galvanized) pipe and 3d printed parts. It rides on a flat table surface and, in theory, can be lifted off that table and hung on a wallwhen not in use. So you could use your workbench and a wastwboard if you were clever enough. My point is both have a place, both are useful, and both have pros and cons. But a $100k machine is stupid unless you are a huge pro shop.
thankyou. its great advice. i did alot of the patterns and used the method. but you always help me improve my methods in some way. thankyou and God Bless You. and your family
Great info in this vid Ron. I do a ton of template routing myself, mostly with flush trim bits on the router table, but for bigger things I like bushings. I've been using whiteside spirals for years and they've been good to me. CMT is great too, as are Freuds.
A cnc would make those so called templates you use so often with out the need to even sand them.. Making a template involves multiple tools.. A cnc template involves a cnc, CAD and wood.. Can be using your template in half an hour
I don't have a CNC. I am portable, and fitting one in the Smart Woodshop Trailer would be tough. I've had a few vendors offer to put one in my shop, but I had to decline as I want to stay portable. My system works well for me and my needs, and most of the Smart Woodshop Fam doesn't have a CNC, so I provide a way to get accurate repeatable results. I've been using this method since an entry-level CNC was $250K. Good thoughts, but a CNC isn't always the best option.
I have never had a need to make logos or lettering in wood. My area is new construction and remodeling. If I were a sign maker, I would surely have a CNC. 😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop but can you see how that means your video title is 100% inaccurate? Repeatability and intricacies that cnc can achieve are far beyond what the bushing & template system will ever be able to match. Also you maybe forgot that every minute your cnc is cutting is a minute you're not risking injury, not breaking your back, and lowering your labor costs and time. Sorry, but your assertion that this can do everything a cnc can do is ABSOLUTELY hyperbole. Massive hyperbole. There are a million things even a hobbyist cnc can do that you can't. I have a $3k matchine I bought used that can do 4th axia caving, 3d carving, has a laser module to do engraving, and can change its own bits. Which of those does your system do better. Sorry for being pedantic but these absurd assertions are obnoxious clickbait and I don't like it since I'm here for real information.
@@bemccune7671 true, however, I learned great info in this video and I could see how using this method for larger, simpler cuts could actually be faster. So, it depends on what you are making. For what he makes/builds, it seems like a good option and awesome info and I'm glad I know about it now. Could be very useful for me. But yeah, a CNC can do a ton that simply isn't realistically feasible when done manually.
Wanted to ask a personal question if it's ok. I've heard that woodworking/dust is really bad for the lungs. I notice you have a rash or redness on the back of your hands is that from woodworking? I'm just wondering in case I need to be more careful around sawdust especially from the manufactured kind of boards. Thanks
Wow, i didn't think this video would cause that much controversy. I'm amazed that folks don't 'get' what you are really saying. I have recently come to the same conclusion you have. I think you can say it in one sentence. For repeatable parts making, a router bushing and shop made template, beats a very expensive CNC every time. Why, or how can that statement be true? That's the rub, right there. For folks that need the latest greatest whatever, awesome. I think if i had that kind of dough, i'd put it back into my shop, or my truck, or my trailer. Thanks Ron. Thank you commenters for reminding me that reading the comments is always a mixed bag. I did learn some stuff there, for sure. aoxomoxoa
Great video Ron. Love your stuff. How deep of a cut and what spindle speed do you recommend for the 1/2" spiral upcut bit when cutting 3/4" baltic birch?
The Maslow would be perfect to fit in my 12' trailer and take to the site? I would be done with the job and moved on to something else before it was set up. Remember, my channel (all 700+ videos) and 30 years of experience are about and for Home Builders and remodelers. I am not offering advice or how-to videos to furniture makers, cabinet shops, or puzzle makers. There are other channels that serve those industries. I have been at this YT thing for 10 years and never deviated.
@@TheSmartWoodshop The typical Maslow looks like a wall mounted sheet goods saw. Also because all the motion control is at the top, I don't see a reason one couldn't come up with a split frame design to make it transportable. Also in the same vain regardless of the number of videos or years in the trade (which I have you beat), saying a $5 router guide can replace a CNC isn't accurate as well as one costs $100,000 because it doesn't maybe after 30 years it is time to open up to new ideas as take it from me, yes an old dog can learn new tricks :-)
Thank you for mentioning this, the Maslow is amazing, without a doubt. It might not be something for Ron, or the guy that is doing home building, remodeling, but for those of us that fabricate weird stuff, all the time, this is the ticket.
@@TheSmartWoodshop The Shaper Origin would probably be a better bet than the Maslow. Workflow wise, its nearly identical to what you already do, the only difference is the pattern is digital (so no initial pattern needed). Can load files for cutting, or create them on-the-fly. My carpenter was skeptical at first with mine, but now uses his all the time. Changed his entire workflow. He now does CNC cabinets on site from his trailer. Door pockets and other common patterns are preloaded in memory, so he just has to select the one he wants and goes. Can even run them manually, so you get the same use that you would with a plunge router. Everything has its use. Sometimes manual is best. I think the Shaper is the best of both worlds.
Very interesting perspective. I appreciate it, and the encouragement to learn this skill with templates and a bushing. I am newly operating our routers and having fun with them. As a less skilled person, one advantage to a CNC if it were affordable would be better, repeatable results than I expect I can get myself at this time. :/ I wish it were not so but I am sure I would be better at the digital pattern-making -- very short learning curve for me, that would be -- than actual template making in the wood-working shop. I'm not scared of it -- just less skilled. I hope to improve. (Because a CNC is definitely out of my budget!)
I have two that I use the most, both from 3M. One is a headband style and the other is two in-ear plugs connected with a small plastic tube so they will hang around your neck. I have both in my Amazon store under WEARABLES, VESTS AND TOOLBAGS thesmartwoodshop.com/rons-store
I'm surprised you haven't built your own CNC yet. Quite a few good DIY options and you certainly have the skills to build one. Most folks who shy away seem to have an aversion to using computers. But you're already using sketchup and video editing software... learning Fusion 360 (free for a hobbyist) isn't much harder to learn than sketchup... I used my CNC to cut all of the pieces for the smart work bench. Looking forward to your videos on how to build it - I haven't finished the stops / slides yet... not sure how they go together :-)
A CNC would be fun and maybe someday, but all my tools need to be portable and fit in my 12' trailer. Portable is the key for me at this moment in time.
@@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt I have posted videos about the Shaper Origin and Yeti here on my channel when I visited with them both at AWFS and my first impression was either might be a good fit for my needs, but I just haven't had a challenge for anything so complicated I couldn't complete it with the tools I have. The gold standard for me is to do more with less.
I don't carve! 30 years of home building and not once have I been asked to carve. My techniques and channel are for basic carpenters that build and remodel houses not carvers, pen makers, fine woodworkers and such. I will leave those tasks to other channels hosted by craftsmen with much more skill than me. The video I posted is 100% true and accurate within the context I presented it and the stated mission of this channel.
hum, this is one of those things where I agree and disagree at the same time. You picked an example where yes, it is almost as quick to make your templet with hand tools as a cnc because it is all straight lines but add some organic curves and suddenly you would save a lot of time using a cnc to make your templets. Something that would integrate well with Festool and your workflow very well is the Shaper Origin. It is basically a smart router and you could use it to make complex shapes in patterns and for a one-off. My personal rule of thumb is if I am going to make 4 or more of something make a template, less than that I will just use a cnc.
How did you convert between the standard measurement of 1/16" or 1/8" offset, and the metric measurement of your bench plans? Did you round down the 1/8" (3.175mm) to 3mm, round up 1/16" (1.5875mm) to 2mm?
Usually in production lines where they need multiple routers to increase production, they will stick multiple spindles to the same gantry in order to repeat the pattern. You can take a look to the Gibson factory, there's tours here on youtube. I don't think I've ever seen two independent spindles at once, if there is, it's 100% custom built.
I'll CNC cut either a template or the final pieces for you..for a very reasonable price. The template would be less expensive to ship, but require you to rout the finished parts with either a guide bushings or pattern bit. Of course, the finished parts only require assembly. I'm happy to do whatever you like. Please feel free to reach out.
I concur. My routers have made me a lot of $$ over the years. I did doors. I bought slab doors, jamb stock and milled the doors to the jambs at the job site. I could mill a hung door every 30 minutes.
@LPS AZ just curious is there a reason people don’t make a door from a sheet of wood? I been thinking to get a big sheet and cnc it so it looks like a panel door, maybe stronger as no joints and just one wood not need to join together
30 years of home building and remodeling and not once has a home I built required me to carve anything. Remember, I am sharing my knowledge about and for those that are building and remodeling homes. A 3 axis CNC would not have helped me even once in my career. I am sure there are those that have projects that those kinds of machines would help, but not what this channel is about.
@@TheSmartWoodshop then why are you comparing a router bushing to a $100,000 CNC? That's why people are taking issue... I love your channel and work but what you're saying is like saying a $5 fan is as good as a Porsche because the fan's air makes you feel as comfortable as the AC in the Porsche. You're narrowing in on a single aspect and how it applies to you, and you're comparing it to something that may treat that aspect as an afterthought. Besides that, even a Maslow pays for itself when you consider that it can be running and doing stuff while you're off doing other things.
My favorite part is when Ron says "more money in your bank account at the end of the month after you pay all your bills". Lol real contractors are way behind in their bills . Just kiddin..... But seriously they are.
Get a 5 axis cnc router and make all your stiles and rails mortis and tennon all the hinge mortises and euro Grove and mortis in the lock box then bevel the edges.. All in one step takes about 20 minutes. Hand is no comparison. No way your tool will do all that. You will have to have a storage building to store all your templates.
click bait title; while you have the guide in, knock me off A-Z in 50mm & 120mm high letters, in mdf, dibond, and some 10mm clear perspex. for 5pm tonight.
This 11-year-old channel with 700+ videos and my 30-year career are about home building. Working on-site is key to efficiency, production, and quality. Cutting out letters on a CNC is a different profession and content for a different channel. In the rare case that a CNC would help I have found a workaround that gives me repeatability, accuracy, and speed. I can cut a template to make the pieces and move on to the next task before I could drive to the CNC shop, get the design coded, input into the machine and cut. If I decide to get into cutting out letters, I will consider constructing a shop and buying a CNC. I even stated that a CNC machine was excellent and in many cases the best option, but not for my needs as a home builder. Really, you should pay attention to the context before you comment.
I agree with you as too there is the Maslow sub 1k which does 4x8 and there is no way a human with a guide collar is going to cost effectually match a CNC...
Ron Paulk Except that your opening sentence says that it can do anything a $100,000 CNC machine can do, which is quite different to being able to make a few bits.
im sorry ron but you are completely wrong. there is no comparison between a cnc router and a router and guide bushing. its like comparing a handsaw to a panel saw. of course you can get the piece made but they are completely diferent
@@EarlLewis its wrong because its simply not true. nothing wrong with using a router and guide bush. everyone does it , i do it too. this has nothing to do with how good his work is. a cnc is a completely diferent animal than a router.
The video is about the end result. I have had the horses cut with a CNC and with my router, you can't tell the difference between the two except one was cut on a 90K machine and the other with a small power tool. I believe I said in the video that it isn't about the tools I own, but the work I produce.
Love him or don't . . .Mr. Paulk has made an investment in the construction industry for small construction companies that very few people will ever duplicate. After following him for many years, I find his advice sound, his directions and rationales clear, and his dedication to organization and storage to "protect" and actually "locate" his supplies and tools unmatchable.
I can concur. The first template I made, for commercial purposes, I was worried about it's accuracy over time... a couple years and 1,000+ parts later it was still able to make parts to spec.
Thanks for clearly pointing out that the guide bushing does not ride up and down with the cutter, whereas the bearing of a pattern bit does. That makes it much easier to get the right depth of cut with plunge depth, rather than buying different lengths of pattern bit. It is also comforting to hear that a pro can damage the template with a pattern bit. I thought it was only me.
Cool.
I learned the same techniques back in 1976, in Shop Class. In spring 1977, my wood shop instructor hooked my up with a job at a small wood shop in town. I was hired to do all the sanding in this one-man shop. The way he made money was by working efficiently. His "day job" was in the aerospace industry in the LA basin. Pattern-making and use was in his nature. He used both methods. One his walls, hundreds of patterns that he had made for the products he designed, created and sold. So many that he used numbers, not names, for each pattern. This was way before computers, so he kept 3-ring binders full of all the products he offered, along with the patterns necessary to create each (typically multiple patterns per item; varied).
Same here, this is not a new idea.
Im liking your aggressive editing, no wasted 2nds
I’ve used a template and guild bushings for projects for years. Never had a problem. Takes some time but costs almost nothing and does a great job if you’re capable of making a accurate template.
The middle ground between a regular router and a full blown CNC is perhaps something like the Shaper Origin. It's "only" $2500 but it's able to follow complicated patterns that you'd have a hard time making by hand just like a CNC would.
Yes, I am considering a Shaper Origin or Yeti Smartbench for myself. BUT only to make my templates/patterns. Then I will still use a router, bushing, and template for production. I just haven't decided if the $2,500+ is worth it as I have as of yet come up against a pattern challenge that I couldn't complete with the basic tools I own. I guess I will have to get my hands on one or a few and try them for a while to really know.😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop Between the Shaper and the Yeti, I'm certain that the former is the right tool for you. Festool systainer. Small. Portable. Powerful.
Check out Fabber too. It creates toolpaths for Shaper straight from your SketchUp designs. Zero learning curve for you. Thus, it fits right into your existing workflow.
@@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt I will check out Fabber. Thanks🤙
John Coloe are those cncs 4x8 capable?
Thanks Ron You've just inspired an idea that will allow me to finish a low volume manufacturing run on a very small machine. As the wood will be very thin, I can probably stack them and cut a handful at a time. What a timely and inspiring video. I can 3D print my templates too. Perfect!
i use my plunge router and templates all the time. Such a time saver after the first one.
I'd like to see how you do any cnc 3D carving/ engraving with that bushing and a router
I don't carve as I assume 99% of carpenters don't. My methods work for me as a home builder, remodeler and carpenter. If I ever needed carving, I would hire a pro with those skills. I do on occasion have to carve a rail intersection, but I do so with a grinder fitted with a sanding disk and even then out of 500+ rails I have only had to carve less than 10x. My mission here is to show a method that works in the woodworking construction world that doesn't require a big investment but is very accurate, repeatable and fast with the tools that all woodworkers already own. I have built 200+ new homes and 1000+ remodels and not yet needed anything carved😎
I've said it before. I'll say it again. CNC machines shine at three things:
1) Intricate designs;
2) Templates, and;
3) 2.5/3D
#1 enables the creation of works that would be difficult to impossible to achieve with handheld routers.
#2 makes it possible to consistently turn out one, a hundred, or a thousand parts using handheld routers.
#3 produces results otherwise only achievable with hand carving.
As for speed, I'd accept that challenge. My CNC Factory Viper XP, with its 5'x10' vacuum bed, 10HP spindle and 10 position automatic tool changer beats a seasoned craftsman on even simple cuts, including any post processing.
Perhaps most importantly, the judicious employment of a CNC machine frees a valuable craftsman for the kind of tasks they do best and enjoy more.
Perhaps the best of both worlds is something you've already experienced: tools such as Shaper Origin, or the Yeti job site CNC. At $2,500 and $6,000, respectively, these machines are very affordable ways of bringing digital woodworking into the mainstream.
I like the idea of getting a Shaper Origin or Yeti to make my templates and then use the templates with my router for production. I just haven't reached a point that the time savings in template making would repay the investment. Note: everything I say is coming from the perspective of a homebuilder/remodeler working solely from a 12' trailer. I have no crew or fix based shop so I either pay a CNC shop to do things for me or come up with ways to get it done "on-site."
I have access to a couple of CNC mills and routers, and 150W lasers. These are great machines, but as Ron says they really aren’t required. My experience with them however has taught me how rarely they are needed.
I have a router pantograph at home that can do most of the 2.5d/3d things that can be done on most CNC machines. For 2D I can design in the usual vector programs and print out a pattern I can trace on the pantograph.
@@TheSmartWoodshop I left a reply before seeing this and that you know about the Shaper Origin. I think it and you would be a good fit if you find yourself doing any organic shapes, otherwise, you are right about templates for your work.
Great video, I am learning everyday with your videos. Just bought a set of your smart workbench (the small one) and I am trying to find a way to get a good combination of a metric spiral upcut router bit and a bushing set to get that 3mm difference from the pattern on the plan and the final piece. Do you have any recommandations ? Do you just stick to imperial size router bit and bushing a neglect the small difference of 0.006" on the final part as those router bits seems to be more readily available in North America.
sorry for the noobe question, but i am seeing square inside edges on your patterns, and from what i understand the challenge when using this method or a $100K cnc machine is you can only get rounded corners, no square corners? you still have to finish off the inside corners with some other saw, correct? i am fascinated by learning sketchup and cnc, but feel it's probably over my paygrade.
The pattern is square but the finished horse is rounded as you can see in the video. I could square them out with chisel when the job calls for it as I do on another part of my bench, but a CNC has the same issue. Round cutters can't cut square inside corners.
You program a "dog bone" fillet for CNC. The router over cuts at the corners so the parts fit flush. For exposed joints on finer pieces, make the final pass with a small diameter bit. Then either square the inside corner, or round the outer edge.
@@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt 😎"Round cutters can't cut square inside corners."
Hey Ron I this is where the Shaper Origin comes in to make the template. Then you don’t have to store patterns. I agree with using a plunge router for the rest. 👍🏻
Thanks for all the videos!!
I'd been wondering how to pattern cut. Thanks Ron.
Great information. You commented: "At the end of the day, what I care about is what I produce, not the tools that I own." I have always thought that way, but as I've grown older and finally retired, I've pretty much gone the other way. I still make small projects, mostly for myself and family, but lean toward how cool the tools are. Such as the Paulk work benches, etc. New drills, saws, routers, etc. How that I'm retired, I don't need them, but want them. If only they had been available when I needed them. That's why my kids now call me "Jim the tool man". They also say, Dad you're not building anymore, shouldn't you let us use them. No one takes care of your tools like you do!
I have and use a hobby CNC machine and have done so for 10 years. It is great for making good patterns that can then be used manually and given to friends who only have routers and not CNC machines.
I agree. A CNC would be great for making patterns and then router for production.
Come on Ron! Actually a professional Felder full sheet CNC cost under £40K. A CNC is about no more jigs ever. When you don't get what the high end technology do, you're definitely from an outdated time. An average CNC beats any human anytime, obviously. Try to get that a CNC works when you can do anything else, like machining when you do a glue up. That is unbeatable. Definitely. If we were both in the same area I would invite you to make you understand what my full sheet £10k CNC mill is all about. If you like I can let you challenge the machine, I still have power tools, but you will still be setting up the tools to make your jig while the CNC finishes its task. A business managing a CNC will make more money, in less time. Once you get the workflow, you do in a day what you could not achieve in a week without a CNC. I also have bushings, but it does not worth a cent now.
I could be way off in my thinking but do get results. A year ago I watched a brand new set up cut one side of my sawhorses in the same amount of time I cut 3 with my template. The set up was very automated and cost the shop just over 90K. I personally don't have a task in my workflow that would justify such an outlay of capital, but I am a carpenter, homebuilder, and remodeler, not a furniture maker. I enjoy technology and would l love to be proven wrong so I could buy one and justify it to my wife. I have one additional issue and that is space. As a mobile carpenter, I haven't figured out a way to pack it up in my trailer and set it up on the job. I don't have a physical shop, only a 12' trailer.I have considered a portable CNC to make my templates and then do the production with my router.😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop well, the shop size and the budget are not crucial, in my opinion. I see Festool setups that cost 4 times my big CNC router's price tag. A CNC can be mounted like a panel saw, so the footprint is not that big and you could store materials behind on a trailer setup. Your trailer would look empty with a proper CNC workflow. What's much important to me is to change the way to manage projects. You can't add a CNC in a traditional workflow. I believe it's the way you thought about it. That does not work, you get the problems and you don't get the perks. You want to raise a workflow from the CNC machine. This way, you save time and money every time. No time and materials wasted to make jigs, few tools needed apart the CNC, reduced job site adjustments, easy built in joinery, reduced hardware. A bit of time invested into measurement and design, and so much time saved on the job site. As long as your business goes, you capitalize on previous designs you can reproduce, partially or not, with no setup. You only do what a human is good at, what brings a lot of value. Anything else is done much quicker and more precisely by the CNC. You're also less tired at the end of the day, and you do not get a lot of pain as you carry light machined parts most of the time. You talked about tabs to hold the parts, but it ain't necessary. Vacuum bed or pads can be made by the CNC and holds any parts. So you get ready to assembly parts. Some parts can be made with embedded clip lock joinery, or built in features that replace hardware. If you are skilled enough in digital fabrication, CNC is an incredible powerful tool. But you need first to give up most of what you were used to and think digital natively. Not a SketchUp to cutting list to do the job yourself, but engineer your parts for quick and easy assembly, direct from computer to machine. It works whatever your working field or workshop size. It's a state of mind first.
@@axelSixtySix I need every tool I have to frame, side, trim, set cabinets, nail down hardwood, install doors, cut in locksets, and so on. I don't see a CNC helping me much with most tasks required when building a house. I am a home builder, remodeler and only a small % of the required tasks could be done by any CNC. Cabinets and closet packs and not much else, which ARE built with a CNC by the cabinet shops I hire for such work. I don't see running back to the shop CNC to tapper cut a filler for a tight fit to the drywall, cope a piece of crown, miter a piece of door trim, etc.. I need every tool I have to build houses so the only added cost is the bushing as I already need a router, track saw, jigsaw, nailer, miter saw, drill, etc.. to do things on site. My video is for two groups: carpenters in the field and woodworkers with small shops that want or need to do more with less. I have yet to see a CNC do anything required for homebuilding that I can't already do with the tools I own and would need even if I had a CNC. CNCs are amazing but don't offer me "AS A HOMEBUILDER/REMODLER" enough to justify the investment. If I were a production cabinet maker, then I would be singing a different song.
@@TheSmartWoodshop Well said.
The balance between cost effectiveness, new processes and output is very different from "cabinetry" to carpentry. And whilst all carpenters fancy themselves to have a go at furniture(cabinetry). The processes are different. We gotta make money in carpentry. So i appreciate what you are trying to convey. This does in no way detract from the fact the cabinet making tools(including CNC) are awesome. And there's is a reason they're in warehouses.
Sometimes its just as cool to say that his approach is based on his experience.
It's pared back simplicity. And that is skill to see it that way.
So thanks for sharing. Respect.
Axel Sixtysix sounds like you enjoy sitting in front of a computer screen and some people enjoy working with their hand and using a skill set that takes years to craft. Yeah you might be tired at the end of the day. But that is why it’s called work....great job giving some good advice for workers to be efficient and repeatable Ron! Thanks
Ron please explain the offset for using bushing and bits, IE for inside and outside cutting, thanks in advance.
You should check out the Lowrider v2 from V1 engineering. Full sheet CNC for under $1000
I've tried to use your Amazon link today and I was unable to order...
Morning!
I have to both agree and disagree with you. Template routing is a good thing and has its place. So does cnc routing. It all depends on your available space, production rate, production amount, and production variability. An the last one, production variability, combined with available space, is where your argument for your method breaks down. Along with the fact that a cnc allows you to work in near parallel on something else.
In the beginning you were noting how small the trailer workshop space you were using is. Which is cool; many hobbyists and small business woodworkers work in limited space. And yes, large format cnc are, well, large. They take up allot of space. But so do templates. The difference is that if you are not actively using a given template it is "dead space" not making you money. The cnc can stay busy as long as you feed it designs and materials. This, if you have limited space AND have a large number of designs you work on, the cnc makes more sense even if it is slower. It can work while you do other things and your template storage all fits on tiny computer. Or the cloud, nowadays.
As to cost, a $100k cnc is asanine for most small business woodworkers. You can build your own cnc router in any size for less than $4000. There are extremely good designs that are in the $1000 to $3000 range that are fairly easy to build, reliable, and you can build them arge enough to feed it a full sheet of plywood or build the small, your choice. There is even a newish design called the MPCNC (Mostly Printed CNC) that uses steel (or galvanized) pipe and 3d printed parts. It rides on a flat table surface and, in theory, can be lifted off that table and hung on a wallwhen not in use. So you could use your workbench and a wastwboard if you were clever enough.
My point is both have a place, both are useful, and both have pros and cons. But a $100k machine is stupid unless you are a huge pro shop.
There is a lot of useful information in that video. Thank you Ron
Already made it's called a trim bit with a bearing for a guide.
Pattern BIt.I am pretty sure I spent a minute or two talking about them in this video and why I don't use them.
I had bearing bits break so it nice to have this guide to follow than break bearing
thankyou. its great advice. i did alot of the patterns and used the method. but you always help me improve my methods in some way. thankyou and God Bless You. and your family
Great explanation Ron . Keep up the great work !!!
The router is a wonderful tool. I have the off 1400 and been very happy with it.
Great info in this vid Ron. I do a ton of template routing myself, mostly with flush trim bits on the router table, but for bigger things I like bushings. I've been using whiteside spirals for years and they've been good to me. CMT is great too, as are Freuds.
Excellent video and love your philosophy. A real lean manufacturing approach.
Ron, you mentioned plans for your templates....where can I find and order them?...
Hi Ron are you still using Ultralight plywood. Great video and insight
Hey Ron where can I find/buy viewtainers
Very well done Ron!
Robert Redford. I like your work
Do you have a video showing how to do it
The "PTSU Horse"?!?! Further tweaking the design of the PTS2?
A cnc would make those so called templates you use so often with out the need to even sand them.. Making a template involves multiple tools.. A cnc template involves a cnc, CAD and wood.. Can be using your template in half an hour
I don't have a CNC. I am portable, and fitting one in the Smart Woodshop Trailer would be tough. I've had a few vendors offer to put one in my shop, but I had to decline as I want to stay portable. My system works well for me and my needs, and most of the Smart Woodshop Fam doesn't have a CNC, so I provide a way to get accurate repeatable results. I've been using this method since an entry-level CNC was $250K. Good thoughts, but a CNC isn't always the best option.
I'm curious how bushing/ template routing can do intricate logos or lettering? Even a $300 CNC can do that.
I have never had a need to make logos or lettering in wood. My area is new construction and remodeling. If I were a sign maker, I would surely have a CNC. 😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop but can you see how that means your video title is 100% inaccurate? Repeatability and intricacies that cnc can achieve are far beyond what the bushing & template system will ever be able to match. Also you maybe forgot that every minute your cnc is cutting is a minute you're not risking injury, not breaking your back, and lowering your labor costs and time. Sorry, but your assertion that this can do everything a cnc can do is ABSOLUTELY hyperbole. Massive hyperbole. There are a million things even a hobbyist cnc can do that you can't. I have a $3k matchine I bought used that can do 4th axia caving, 3d carving, has a laser module to do engraving, and can change its own bits. Which of those does your system do better. Sorry for being pedantic but these absurd assertions are obnoxious clickbait and I don't like it since I'm here for real information.
@@bemccune7671 true, however, I learned great info in this video and I could see how using this method for larger, simpler cuts could actually be faster. So, it depends on what you are making. For what he makes/builds, it seems like a good option and awesome info and I'm glad I know about it now. Could be very useful for me. But yeah, a CNC can do a ton that simply isn't realistically feasible when done manually.
Great tip, Ron, thanks for sharing.
Love the video,love the concept, love the simplicity!
Wanted to ask a personal question if it's ok. I've heard that woodworking/dust is really bad for the lungs. I notice you have a rash or redness on the back of your hands is that from woodworking? I'm just wondering in case I need to be more careful around sawdust especially from the manufactured kind of boards.
Thanks
Great advice. Thank you!
Wow, i didn't think this video would cause that much controversy. I'm amazed that folks don't 'get' what you are really saying. I have recently come to the same conclusion you have. I think you can say it in one sentence. For repeatable parts making, a router bushing and shop made template, beats a very expensive CNC every time. Why, or how can that statement be true? That's the rub, right there. For folks that need the latest greatest whatever, awesome. I think if i had that kind of dough, i'd put it back into my shop, or my truck, or my trailer. Thanks Ron. Thank you commenters for reminding me that reading the comments is always a mixed bag. I did learn some stuff there, for sure. aoxomoxoa
Great video Ron. Love your stuff. How deep of a cut and what spindle speed do you recommend for the 1/2" spiral upcut bit when cutting 3/4" baltic birch?
I assume you have never seen the Maslow a sub 1k CNC router which does 4x8 plywood.
The Maslow would be perfect to fit in my 12' trailer and take to the site? I would be done with the job and moved on to something else before it was set up. Remember, my channel (all 700+ videos) and 30 years of experience are about and for Home Builders and remodelers. I am not offering advice or how-to videos to furniture makers, cabinet shops, or puzzle makers. There are other channels that serve those industries. I have been at this YT thing for 10 years and never deviated.
@@TheSmartWoodshop The typical Maslow looks like a wall mounted sheet goods saw. Also because all the motion control is at the top, I don't see a reason one couldn't come up with a split frame design to make it transportable. Also in the same vain regardless of the number of videos or years in the trade (which I have you beat), saying a $5 router guide can replace a CNC isn't accurate as well as one costs $100,000 because it doesn't maybe after 30 years it is time to open up to new ideas as take it from me, yes an old dog can learn new tricks :-)
Thank you for mentioning this, the Maslow is amazing, without a doubt. It might not be something for Ron, or the guy that is doing home building, remodeling, but for those of us that fabricate weird stuff, all the time, this is the ticket.
Ron Paulk So you build saw horses on a job site? What is a real example of something you would use this for on a job site?
@@TheSmartWoodshop
The Shaper Origin would probably be a better bet than the Maslow.
Workflow wise, its nearly identical to what you already do, the only difference is the pattern is digital (so no initial pattern needed).
Can load files for cutting, or create them on-the-fly.
My carpenter was skeptical at first with mine, but now uses his all the time.
Changed his entire workflow.
He now does CNC cabinets on site from his trailer. Door pockets and other common patterns are preloaded in memory, so he just has to select the one he wants and goes.
Can even run them manually, so you get the same use that you would with a plunge router.
Everything has its use. Sometimes manual is best. I think the Shaper is the best of both worlds.
Will NOT fit an older Craftsman router without a different base plate. Don't ask me how i know.
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What's in all those totes behind you. Thank you
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Very interesting perspective. I appreciate it, and the encouragement to learn this skill with templates and a bushing. I am newly operating our routers and having fun with them. As a less skilled person, one advantage to a CNC if it were affordable would be better, repeatable results than I expect I can get myself at this time. :/ I wish it were not so but I am sure I would be better at the digital pattern-making -- very short learning curve for me, that would be -- than actual template making in the wood-working shop. I'm not scared of it -- just less skilled. I hope to improve. (Because a CNC is definitely out of my budget!)
Ron, lm Wondering what kind of ear protection you use and where I could get it
I have two that I use the most, both from 3M. One is a headband style and the other is two in-ear plugs connected with a small plastic tube so they will hang around your neck. I have both in my Amazon store under
WEARABLES, VESTS AND TOOLBAGS thesmartwoodshop.com/rons-store
I'm surprised you haven't built your own CNC yet. Quite a few good DIY options and you certainly have the skills to build one. Most folks who shy away seem to have an aversion to using computers. But you're already using sketchup and video editing software... learning Fusion 360 (free for a hobbyist) isn't much harder to learn than sketchup... I used my CNC to cut all of the pieces for the smart work bench. Looking forward to your videos on how to build it - I haven't finished the stops / slides yet... not sure how they go together :-)
A CNC would be fun and maybe someday, but all my tools need to be portable and fit in my 12' trailer. Portable is the key for me at this moment in time.
@@TheSmartWoodshop Shaper Origin, in a Festool sustainer, no less! Combine that with Gabber for SketchUp, and you're there!
@@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt I have posted videos about the Shaper Origin and Yeti here on my channel when I visited with them both at AWFS and my first impression was either might be a good fit for my needs, but I just haven't had a challenge for anything so complicated I couldn't complete it with the tools I have. The gold standard for me is to do more with less.
Are Ron's plans vector PDFs? How did you convert the PDF to DXF?
Great stuff Ron! Love your work!!
Your statement would be true.......if you only ever cut in 2 dimensions, try v carving with a handheld router, or 3 d rotary work.
I don't carve! 30 years of home building and not once have I been asked to carve. My techniques and channel are for basic carpenters that build and remodel houses not carvers, pen makers, fine woodworkers and such. I will leave those tasks to other channels hosted by craftsmen with much more skill than me. The video I posted is 100% true and accurate within the context I presented it and the stated mission of this channel.
@@TheSmartWoodshop and yet you said it does exactly what a cnc does...
Does this mean you are going to sell us your new table 😉
hum, this is one of those things where I agree and disagree at the same time. You picked an example where yes, it is almost as quick to make your templet with hand tools as a cnc because it is all straight lines but add some organic curves and suddenly you would save a lot of time using a cnc to make your templets. Something that would integrate well with Festool and your workflow very well is the Shaper Origin. It is basically a smart router and you could use it to make complex shapes in patterns and for a one-off. My personal rule of thumb is if I am going to make 4 or more of something make a template, less than that I will just use a cnc.
How did you convert between the standard measurement of 1/16" or 1/8" offset, and the metric measurement of your bench plans? Did you round down the 1/8" (3.175mm) to 3mm, round up 1/16" (1.5875mm) to 2mm?
I use 1.5mm for the bushing offset😎🤙
@@TheSmartWoodshop Many thanks
You got this stuff down pat Ron!
Usually in production lines where they need multiple routers to increase production, they will stick multiple spindles to the same gantry in order to repeat the pattern. You can take a look to the Gibson factory, there's tours here on youtube. I don't think I've ever seen two independent spindles at once, if there is, it's 100% custom built.
Ron, is there any way you would build me 1 set of those saw horses. I'll pay any amount of money to have them. Yes I'm serious! Please 😁
ANY amount xD
I'll CNC cut either a template or the final pieces for you..for a very reasonable price.
The template would be less expensive to ship, but require you to rout the finished parts with either a guide bushings or pattern bit.
Of course, the finished parts only require assembly.
I'm happy to do whatever you like. Please feel free to reach out.
@@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt Ok , i need a total of four pieces to make two horses.
Hey Ron, what speed do you set the 1400 router at for the ½ inch bit?
Thanks for the phone time, I enjoyed our conversation..... ordered all the goodies from your Amazon shop
Too fast most of the time😎🤙
I concur. My routers have made me a lot of $$ over the years. I did doors. I bought slab doors, jamb stock and milled the doors to the jambs at the job site. I could mill a hung door every 30 minutes.
@LPS AZ just curious is there a reason people don’t make a door from a sheet of wood? I been thinking to get a big sheet and cnc it so it looks like a panel door, maybe stronger as no joints and just one wood not need to join together
Hello interesting video.
I can do 2.5 dimensional carvings with my 3 axis CNC ! I don’t think He knows that you can do so much more than cut in 2 dimensions.
30 years of home building and remodeling and not once has a home I built required me to carve anything. Remember, I am sharing my knowledge about and for those that are building and remodeling homes. A 3 axis CNC would not have helped me even once in my career. I am sure there are those that have projects that those kinds of machines would help, but not what this channel is about.
Ron Paulk that still does not change the fact that your guide cannot do everything a CNC can do , if it suits your needs or not !
@@TheSmartWoodshop then why are you comparing a router bushing to a $100,000 CNC? That's why people are taking issue... I love your channel and work but what you're saying is like saying a $5 fan is as good as a Porsche because the fan's air makes you feel as comfortable as the AC in the Porsche. You're narrowing in on a single aspect and how it applies to you, and you're comparing it to something that may treat that aspect as an afterthought.
Besides that, even a Maslow pays for itself when you consider that it can be running and doing stuff while you're off doing other things.
My favorite part is when Ron says "more money in your bank account at the end of the month after you pay all your bills". Lol real contractors are way behind in their bills . Just kiddin..... But seriously they are.
Why does this video make feel car sick ?
Your videos are great, but please, you don't need to cut every second of silence out of your video... Can't handle this!
Get a 5 axis cnc router and make all your stiles and rails mortis and tennon all the hinge mortises and euro Grove and mortis in the lock box then bevel the edges.. All in one step takes about 20 minutes. Hand is no comparison. No way your tool will do all that. You will have to have a storage building to store all your templates.
@Rod Kinney only need 3 axis for a lot of that, maybe 4 axis for stiles if needed so
Very informative
Maslow
Maker made
1:30, still super click bait'y!
Yeah. You can also ditch your car and start breeding donkeys to pull a cart. But why would you...
I took some great photos of wild donkeys (Burros) in Nevada.
click bait title; while you have the guide in, knock me off A-Z in 50mm & 120mm high letters, in mdf, dibond, and some 10mm clear perspex. for 5pm tonight.
This 11-year-old channel with 700+ videos and my 30-year career are about home building. Working on-site is key to efficiency, production, and quality. Cutting out letters on a CNC is a different profession and content for a different channel. In the rare case that a CNC would help I have found a workaround that gives me repeatability, accuracy, and speed. I can cut a template to make the pieces and move on to the next task before I could drive to the CNC shop, get the design coded, input into the machine and cut. If I decide to get into cutting out letters, I will consider constructing a shop and buying a CNC. I even stated that a CNC machine was excellent and in many cases the best option, but not for my needs as a home builder. Really, you should pay attention to the context before you comment.
I had to stop watching the video a couple minutes into it due to all the splice cuts in your editing.
A 100000$ cnc 😂😂😂 are you serious? You can buy a 2x3 meter used for 10000 and you can use all THREE axis.
Cheap cnc machines are just that. Cheap. I had one and it constantly broke down and had issues. Big ass waste of money.
You can get a goo CNC for 10,000
Deceptive title.
A 5 dollar accessory that does maybe 5% of what an actual CNC machine can do.
A CNC machine to do what he did wouldn’t cost $100K
I agree with you as too there is the Maslow sub 1k which does 4x8 and there is no way a human with a guide collar is going to cost effectually match a CNC...
100% of what I would need a CNC to do as a home builder, I can do with a router.
Ron Paulk
Except that your opening sentence says that it can do anything a $100,000 CNC machine can do, which is quite different to being able to make a few bits.
im sorry ron but you are completely wrong. there is no comparison between a cnc router and a router and guide bushing. its like comparing a handsaw to a panel saw. of course you can get the piece made but they are completely diferent
If it works for him who is anyone to say it's wrong? You've seen his work, right? Flawless and precise.
@@EarlLewis its wrong because its simply not true. nothing wrong with using a router and guide bush. everyone does it , i do it too. this has nothing to do with how good his work is. a cnc is a completely diferent animal than a router.
MelbourneAlan well I guess you win the coveted literal accuracy award for TH-cam today. Well done.
The video is about the end result. I have had the horses cut with a CNC and with my router, you can't tell the difference between the two except one was cut on a 90K machine and the other with a small power tool. I believe I said in the video that it isn't about the tools I own, but the work I produce.
@@TheSmartWoodshop Thanks for doing these and giving the average guy a glimpse into how real pros get things done.
totally disagree... you sounded like a poor guy trying to convince that your the best
Well, you're not the best at grammar or punctuation. I look forward to your maker videos.
Love him or don't . . .Mr. Paulk has made an investment in the construction industry for small construction companies that very few people will ever duplicate. After following him for many years, I find his advice sound, his directions and rationales clear, and his dedication to organization and storage to "protect" and actually "locate" his supplies and tools unmatchable.
I got lost at 1:00
iMaps should help😎
@@TheSmartWoodshop LOL. With ear plugs.