Trying to Play Modern Games on an 8 Year Old PC...
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When he tries to build a old pc and it's still more powerful than what I have.
Same situation here bro 🥺🥺😅😭
Same, I have i3 550 6gb of ram and I had to replace my gtx 760 with gt610 becouse I can't afford anything better atm
@@damianosplay9457 Should have bought a console then the GPU is practically useless. It will max out just scrolling up and down on a web page.
Relatable
The build is slightly better than mine (i5-4690K, 24GB 1600MHz RAM, Gigabyte GTX 970).
"Trying to play modern games on an 8 year old pc"
So just a normal day for me then
I’m right there with you mate,
Me just trying to casually play Happy Wheels on an 8 year old MacBook Pro without the computer completely crashing😅
@@im_linus I am on gt 635m that older Than his
thats Actually worser than a iris Xe
Same i have an GeForce gts 450
I've been using an 8 yr old laptop with hot n loud Kepler abandonware GPU, then I played Stellaris on an A10 Richland with Radeon HD 600p gfx ...
Didn't need any tricks like display upscaling
I took my dad's i5 2500, threw in a 1660ti and a SSD back in 2019. Runs almost everything I want at 60+ fps 1080p.
sweet 2nd or 3rd quad pumped rest system ^^
im a 90s kid ^ ^
Tons of older or lighter games that don't need more CPU than that.... The newer stuff can be much harder to run
@@wayward03 Only with a few of the newer titles, off the top of my head I can only think of red dead redemption that's been giving me trouble. I've bought Control recently, I guess that's gonna give me some trouble too.
@@tanujkaushic4137 I have an i5 6600k and control for me basically is just struggling due to my 970. But i guess I’ll find out when I finally upgrade my graphics card if it was actually the gpu 😂
Nice but still a gigantic bottleneck
I used to run a system nearly identical to this. Had a 970 instead of 980 and sold it to a friend about 4 years ago. Glad to see that it will still perform well today.
last year i upgraded from a 970 to a 2070, left my card with my friend, he finished cyberpunk, played red dead online, and still uses a ddr3 board, that's the beauty of pc gaming
the 9 series was only around what 2015, i think everything but cyberclunk will run fine on a 680 (which was around 2012). Its actually not the beauty of it, that was more so a side effect of game development stagnation from consoles having locked dated hardware and a larger consumer base. There was a time when games would actually push super high end systems. All the chip shortages and the raise of the scalper bots over the past few years didn't help matters.
Me and my brother had issues with the 570 and 580, actually, e.g. Dark Souls 3 wouldn’t very well on it at all. I’m on a 970 currently, love it, but it is time for me to upgrade 😭
If you’re only wanting to play the best games over the past decade, I think an older card is a great investment. Dark Souls 2 at 4k is a beaut.
@@ficklebar you do know the 580 and 570 are more powerful than the 970? Right
I also played Cyberpunk on a 1060, which is about the same as a 970ti. Worked way better than all the salty dudes online said and havent even had any bugs
@@machinegunnergaming3906 i believe he is talking about gtx 580, not rx 580
I didn't know you guys were using my computer! Thanks for having it back on my desk this morning.
I tought it was my PC, lucky me it was yours
They shoulda used my pc its 10 yrs old prob 11 at this point. 5 yr old gpu prob 6 lol
lol
your pc be dusty, need a clean :D
Haha yeah this is just like my computer that I've had for 8 years now 🤣 except I've got the i7-4790k and a gtx1080
Hearing Jay call a 4770k and 980 “old hardware” made me realize that my laptop with a 2630qm and a gtx460m is not a speed demon anymore
I would consider this funny if you weren't completely aware that your laptop is obviously very old.
A GTX 460 was never a "speed demon." With Nvidia cards there is a hierarchy and you can tell what tier it is at based on the numbering: The x5x is low tier, x6x tier is low-mid tier, the x7x is mid tier and x8x is high tier. The x9x are a ridiculous tier and Tesla cards are ludacris tier. The xx5 and "ti" editions are the refreshed variants of this same hierarchy. Everything with GT or GTS in front of the numbers (like GT 420) are potato-level.
I love my GTX 460se that I bought 4 years ago for $35.
Your computer was out of date the day you bought it, at least that what you'll be told by those snobby pc elitists. Hell, I have a ryzen 3600x and with a RTX 2060 and Im made to feel like my hardware is out of date and I just bought it last year.
Same dude... i7-2600k and a 560Ti
This is top old hardware. Thanks for the video Jay, but it would be very interesting to see something more common like the GTX 660ti or GTX 970 (which was top hardware but very popular too).
Still partying in 2022 with an i7 3770K 4.2gh, Ripjaws 16GB 1866 CL9 and a 660 ti 3GB!
@@Gabriel.Fulmar . I don’t know if you be partying with that video card, more likely a box social.
@@Gabriel.Fulmar I can see your setup in vivid colors holy hell
"Top old hardware". Hah! Yea, tell that to my former Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition. But sadly, i hade to retire the dude coz it's decade old already LMAO.
1050ti +4460 - still working fine ;p
17:00 Jay: "I will leave a link down below, if I can remember."
Narrator: *He couldn't remember.*
almost every youtuber ever
Still rocking the 4770k running at 4.3 since the day it was built back in 2013, put in a 1660 super last year and does everything I need.
Yeap, as long as a game is not a Slideshow & is slightly less blocky looking than Mincraft I'm fine 😁
Got an 1650 this year, at prices I don't want to admit but not TOO bad, and it serves fine.
Haven't tried CP2077 on it but all Witcher and ME is in my backlog still so by the time CP2077 is next the RTX4080 will be out if not the 5080 XD
Only questions are: at what price, and will I be able to walk in a shop and buy it.
4670k @ 4.3 here now paired with a 2070 super. who needs all the cores!? ( except Detroit become human.. lol )
@@8ballfpv I did a quick overclock on my 4670K (4,4GHZ at 1.2V) and with a 1060 6GB it ran borderlands 3 on medium/high just fine, set it to smooth 22-62fps setting and it basicly was locked at 60
Elite Dangerous Odyssey down to 13fps from 100fps Horizons same settings. Arrrghhh!!
Back in 2017, I was very happy I saved up for a gtx 1070.
Today, I am very happy I bought a gtx 1070 back in 2017.
Been using a 980ti for so long now and it still plays everything in at least 1080. Been having to ease off ultra settings but very doable.
Lmao i had a xfx 7850 try running that with modern games
980ti is pretty much a 1070 which is similar to a 1650, still damn good for 1080p
@@dill6078 If only they would've made sli work correctly instead of trashing it so we're forced to buy new hardware.
the 1070 is significantly better than a 1650. It's just shy of the 1660ti
@@legoboyjared ive got an r7 360 basically the 7770 it still runs games pretty well for what it is, surely the 7850 hits a bit harder shame it doesnt support dx12
"I'm still on a RX570"
.......and honestly I'm still shocked with how much ass it can kick to this day.....
I am still using my Rx480 card and ite a beast lol.
@@N.O.A_YT the 8gb 480s are just workhorses that don't go down. Ran cyberpunk reasonably well at 1080 and high ish settings.
I’m using a GTX 750 and it still does a great job. Well, great for what it is.
Friend of mine is on an rx250 1gb
And he still plays whatever he wants, he just doesn't want much
@@roqeyt3566 atleast he has a gpu rn. Honestly anything is better than nun. Unless u gaming with an apu
8 years sounds like a long time. Then I realized 8 years ago I was in college and that's when I BUILT my PC. Crap, time is going too fast.
Dam true... 20 to 30 is going way more fast than 10 to 20 :D
Get use to it. It only gets worse. I'm about to turn 39, and I still think of things that happened in my mid twenties as being recent, then I think about it. Then I cry.
back then in 2015 , i always dream of getting a 980ti . fast forward a few years later , im now sitting comfortably with a 3090
it is a long time. When I built my 6600k gtx 970 combo, my 940be system was about 8 years old I think. I had an HD7850 in it as a small upgrade. The jump from that 940be system to the 6600k system was HUGE. But the 9 series and 10 series cards, along with intels stagnation for years, 8 years isn't as huge as it once was.
my 6600k and 970 combo was enough for me to get into VR gaming AND vr streaming.
Wait till your in your mid-40's. My son is graduation high school next year. Enjoy what you can. Found out two days ago the first Shrek movie is 20 years old. Time flies fast the older you get.
I'm still gaming on an 8 year old PC! Still rocking an i7-4790K, 32gb DDR3, and a slightly newer 1080 Ti. Still handles every single modern game, at 60 FPS, using max settings at 1440p or 1080p and Mid to High settings at 4K. That 11GB of GDDR5X VRAM on the 1080 Ti really makes the difference.
im running on core 2 quad q6600 8 gigs of DDR 2-800 ram gtx 1050 LUL
The fact that you don't need to latest and best hardware to game is a point that not being stress enough. Not everything need an upgrade every 2 years, if you just runs games in a reasonable setting, old hardware can still perform well enough for games.
dam I have an i7 4790k/GTX 980 strix in my dresser right now I am using a i7 10700k rtx 3070 waste of money. LOL 1080p is reasonable
@@Fluffee102 imagine the diffrence mine is core 2 quadq6600 2,4 ghz wanna sell your dresser rig xD??
32 GB ram 👁️👁️
I’ve a 4770k paired with a gtx 1060 6 gig vram one and they still do well enough at 1440p on most things. Had to lower the settings for cyberpunk but was playable and still pretty.
I'm still running an i5-4690k and a 970. I was gonna upgrade and then the pandemic, bitcoin miners and general supply chain issues were like, "NOPE."
The 6 gig 1060 can run just about anything, especially overclocked. I never tried 1440p though, I just assumed that was out off reach. haha
I had one with a 1080 and just upgraded cpu, we got alot of good years out of the old girls
I'm on a 980ti and I never felt bad for myself. I'm glad its good enough to see me through the shortages.
It's very solid. Finally when i have money to build a PC im stuck with g3460 and r7 240 because i dont wanna pay double right now. I have 40 fps on rocket league on low settings XD.
im still happy with my 970 ill survive this crisis lmao !
Me with a 2Gb 960: Crying in the corner
Same built a new pc a couple of years ago, and had to get a msi 6Gb 980ti locally for $240 bucks still awesome
struggling with a 1080 (almost) and cp. i mean cp beyönd mid and even high looks far fröm
R+ xD
däm am excität - . - (ps say the sayme with nön ti ^ ^)
Amazing how times fly by so fast. My son is going to be 8 next month I remember receving a MSI GTX 680 a day after he was born! I was still rocking a i7 2600K trying to save to upgrade to a 4770K. Sandy bridge lasted me several years.
Damn, that setup would be an upgrade for me LOL xD
Tik Tok
I'm still on the 4770K!
I have a one year-old too. Not much time for anything let alone gaming lol.
Still using 2600k, it's insane.
"It's got a slow 4gb gddr5."
Me: * sits in the corner with 2gb ddr3 mobile 930mx *
Aw, I had that card also, hehe
Games tf2 and minecraft, but dont dare GTA XD
*Cries* in gtx 550 ti
You must not have been into computers in the 90's....this stuff now is pretty close to normal prices adjusted for inflation.
@@wayward03 what are you talking about?
Nobody mentioned price XD
have you been in a coma?
I had a 980 Ti Classified and it was massive. Probably the closest card to my 30 series in size.
Gaming can still be TOTALLY fine on older hardware. Thanks for this video. Ive been buying last gen stuff and used ebay parts for a decade. Sure Ive had a bad motherboard. Maybe I cant always run ultra settings, but I save 1000s of dollars.
I'm still gaming on a 3rd gen i7 gtx 970
For that, I salute you sir. There’s never really a good reason not to buy pre-owned hardware if it’s from a reputable seller and if the products still work. I recently bought a pre-owned Ryzen 5 3600 with a cooler included. Runs like a charm. (I know it’s not that old, but anyways). Even if I saved only a couple of bucks, everything adds up. Got a fully functional system in 2021 for under $500. Granted, I did already have a working GPU. 1660 Super. Not all people do.
I still have my reliable i7-870 in my PC.
Im still rocking 970 loll, what a great card
I’m still daily driving a pentium 4 with hyper threading
I just upgraded 6 months ago. My last computer was 8 years old. You're just recreating my life.
i kinda upgraded about 2 months ago now, from a dual core 5th gen i5 with an IGPU and 8 gigs of DDR3, now im on a 4800H, 2060, 16 gigs of DDR4 and a 144hz display and hoooly shit is it one hell of an upgrade
Same here. Had a 4770K that was lapped and delidded, running at 4.4GHz with a Strix 980Ti. Now running 5800X with a 3070.
Me too, had a 4670, 8gb ram and 750ti. I upgraded to a ryzen 3600 and 16gb of ram, but am still using my (very) old gpu. Waiting for prices to go down and/or my bank account to refill to buy a better one
i upgraded from a computer I built in 2012. I gave this one to my 6yo nephew to ruin his life fortnite.
Yeah me too. Just went from a I3-7350k/1060 3gb/16GB ram to I7-10700kf/3070 8gb/32GB ram. Big leap in everything!
Still gaming on a 970. Hasn't let me down yet, even running VR games with it.
I have one too, I wondering how far I could push it
@@cameronjellison2085 Mine is faster than most 1650's, if Kombustor is to be believed. It's pushed to it's limit though, any further and I get crashes
970 is a beast, with like 6gb of vram it would be godlike for its age. Had it before my 1080 and gave it to a friend, it's still rippin
@@sold-productions yeah, that VRAM is the only thing stopping me from really enjoying some of the top end brand new titles, but that's only been very recently
That is pretty sweet you can run most things on high settings. Which is the bulk of the visual improvements. Personally I like to run low everything and high textures on my RX480. The 8gig VRAM really helps for more modern titles. So glad I paid the extra for it.
Wish Nvidia didn't think this was 2014 or something and thought 8GB Vram was appropriate for a 1200-1400euro card.
It’s crazy how well optimized DOOM Eternal is.
1800X ...that's not a small processor. It seems like they asking for way more than necessary on the recommended specs. ?
(Edited for clarification)
@@Gantali9305 ??? For a 2020 game an 1800x? that’s incredibly well optimized. This game runs at 60fps on the Xbox one s ffs.
@@mister-pinkman A 1800X is still an 8 core 16 thread 3.6ghz processor. Nothing to be sneered at. Hell even cyberpunk 2077 recommends a FX-8310 and that games a heavy boi.
@@Gantali9305 bruh it runs at 60 fps on a last gen console, if that doesn’t tell you how well optimized then idk what does…. 1800x is an old processor 8 cores or not…
@@mister-pinkman 4 years isn't that old. I'm not saying its not well optimized. as proven by the video it could probably run ultra settings on a 1600x. What I'm saying is it looks like they were pessimistic on their recommended specs.
*Some games...*
"Sorry, you don't have enough cores. We won't launch"
*Some old games now...*
"You've got TOO MANY cores. We won't launch."
Me not knowing how to get FO3 from Steam to work: 🙃
@@henryviiifake8244 im not sure what issue it could be. but just know iv had many problems with this title on diffrent hardware(as in i couldnt get the game to boot) im sure it has a missing DLL file you need to download and place in fallout 3 game directory. this worked for me atleast
TS2 constantly crashes and/or doesn't display shaders due to being unable to address excess RAM in modern systems, lol. Though I've never played anything else that was as awful at forward compatibility and none of the fixes/hacks even work anymore. (Upon attempting to fix it, you find that their config files were literally hard-coding settings unique to specific GPU models lol.)
*cough* Crysis *cough*
@@teknoman117 and Remaster didn't even fix it...
also still rocking a 970 xD no problems here
same, rockn the msi 970
I have msi 980 Ti
@@V3ryH1ghhehe nice me 2
@@blaartje me 3
@@frrrmphpoo1700you tripel sli 970 ;p
Hell yea, I'm still rocking a 980ti Classified in 2021. Runs 80c all day and I love it.
Finally. A video that I can relate to
Edit: Nevermind
yeah.. this stuff's not that old in my opinion
@@TheCRTProductions Not that old, in regard to it's age but old and almost outdated in my opinion, in regard to the way that technology advances. Anyway, my old gaming rig which I repurposed as a HTPC still performs admirably,in my opinion, in AAA Games at Full HD, medium-high details with different tweaks and custom settings per game. It consists of an AMD FX-8350 (stock speeds), 16 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz RAM, GTX 1070 and an old 2nd gen Kingston SSD and 5, 7 year old hard drives for plenty extra storage. Had I not built a new work/gaming PC, back in November of last year, I would have definetely kept using it, not willing to exagerately overspend to build a PC nowadays.
@pera Plejer I can fully relate to what you said. Ultimately, i think that a PC,laptop, device in general, etc becomes "old" when it becomes sluggish or it stops fulfilling your needs, in regards to it. For instance, before repurposing my old PC as a HTPC, I was using a 14 year old Acer laptop as a streaming device to my TV. It ran on good old Windows 7, a little bit sluggish, but ultimately, it did the job.
The only reason that PC isn't considered ancient is that Intel and AMD didn't make improvements for like 5 years....
@@wayward03 Intel hasn’t made any improvements in the last years, that’s right. At least not any significant ones. On the other hand, AMD has done nothing but improving since the launch of their Zen architecture. The improvements are major from one generation to another in regards to their previous generations and of course their direct competition, Intel. That is why they managed to surpass them in every aspect that counts.
My PC has almost the same hardware. Didn't even realize that it was that old. Now I feel bad thanks jay.
Your stuff is still good man, dw about it
980 is still pretty decent in 1080p. 1440 okay. 4k? Not really a great experience on many games
@@Madchris8828 don’t forget your display also needs to support the resolution you want. That’s just another expense lol
My desktop also has a 4770K, but it’s rocking the “4”GB GTX970, so it’s even more VRAM constrained.
@@xil3ntkha0s maybe it worked because I was using dsr.
I love it omg, the "I feel bad for that attitude" was such a perfect way to close out that thought
But I have a 980. WWWHHHAAAAA!!!!! JK, I was very grateful that my brother-in-law just gave me a 980 6GB last year. Only thing that I had to do was get my own founder's shroud for it as he had water-cooled it and lost the original one. My gaming rig is running an i7 4790 with 32GB of DDR3 1600Mhz ram. It's 5 years old since I originally built it with an i3/16GB, and I have no plans of building a new one. It works just as I wanted it to, and barring upgrades, repairs and maintenance, I plan on having it run for at least another 5-10 years. I really don't understand the "latest and greatest" craze.
@@jgvillan01 : Depends upon what one uses PC for. VFX software uses a lot of cores. Another trend is VFIO which is using virtualization for gaming. Cores help there.
I upgraded my 9700KF to a 12700KF and decided to upgrade my nephew with my old stuff. But needed a video card, after getting a 1030GT, I decided to go used and finally ended up with a 970 GTX. Surprisingly it's a 9700KF, 16GB DDR4 and a M.2 Hard drive and I built a rig that's right smack in the middle of the average performance wise. So those old 9 series cards can still game with "newer" hardware.
This hits me in the feels. I just upgraded from a Core i7 860 on a P55 mobo and GTX 970 right before the new year.
I am starting a build that will be i7-870, GA-P55A-UD3R & GTX680SOC, be quiet! Shadow Rock (so the CPU & GPU Fans face the same way 😁) in a Fractal Focus G Case (Grey) for a sort of a Modern Retro look, also keeping an eye out for a second GTX680SOC at a reasonable price
Same but I upgraded from a I7 920
I had the xeon x3470 in my partner's pc until last year, that's pretty much an 8 thread 860, games stopped booting on it without the modern instruction sets, we upgraded her to a Ryzen, she gets the same FPS in games lol. Those CPUs were epic
Im still running my 980ti 😭🤣
Core i7-860, 12gb of DRR3 with (upgraded)GTX 1650 Super worked for me all these years, I want to upgrade my PC, but the PC part prices are ridiculous now, no value!
Getting crazy high Graphics on 1080p and in some games 1440p, is what i experience with my 1070 by now. I am still impressed by that even i bought it 2 years ago.
I still remember when Vulkan first came out and Doom 2016 enabled it. Instant totally insane amounts of frames per second. Blew me away how much better it was, in terms of frame pacing, stability, etc, than DirectX.
I play doom eternal on an r9 390 and i get around 85-120+ fps consistently with only rare dips to like 65-75. Ive lowered a few settings to low or medium because framerate is very important to me but im able to have the textures on the Nightmare preset and lots of stuff on high. I can only really stream or record at 1280x720 30fps and that isnt ideal but thats good enough for the time being
Absolutely thrilled that my fav game of all time is also basically the single most well optimized game to ever exist
I wonder why more games aren't made on vulkan
DX12 so far, has been shit
Battlefield 2042 reminded me.
That 980 was a furnace back in the day, superb GPU that could warm up your room in less than 30 min playing Crysis.
that's a mere peep compared to the 480, look up cooking on 480.
and 980 prices just went up :)
literally
they were already way too expensive at least in my area, only 700 series and older are well priced but Kepler has aged horribly in some newer titles
i just sold my 980 for $400 in under 1 hour
@@robman0865 "you can pick one of these up for $107" lol 24 hours later
980 haven't been the price he read out since December, Probably only reading auction prices. 980's and 980Ti's used to run $170 - $250 now they are $350+.
I'm still rocking my 3820k @ 4.4GHz on a Asus rampage IV GENE, with a 980ti and it still holds up to this day.
I gave my 980 to a friend in need. When he finished with it he asked if I wanted it back. Instead we agreed it should go to someone else in need, which it did. I like knowing someone's still having fun with it. :)
That is Awesome 🥰
This is the way.
Gave my brother-in-law my old 660 KR 3GB. I used that thing for about 5 years before I upgraded. Was a great card. And he's just a console gamer that wanted to stream games through Xbox pass on his piece of crap OEM computer he bought from Costco. Totally works fine for that.
@@shaneeslick thx 😊
Still happy with my Z87 + 4770, thanks to the addition of a 1660 super just before the prices went up.
I honestly feel like JayzTwoCents is the most underrated TH-camr for us gamers. From the questions he answers, choice of videos, presentation, etc, It makes me wonder why LinusTechTips has most of the clout. This group of people clearly deserves way more.
Take a loot at Gamers Nexus
7 years already. It feels like I bought my 980ti no more than 2 years ago lol
It’s still pretty good for 1080p and 1440p
@@mr_tea753 i mean yeah its more powerful than the 1060 and its still good
I just bout a used a 980FE yesterday for my 1st ever pc build and i have never ever been more excited in mt life before
@@Dizzer1948 congratulations on your build! i used to have the 980FE and theres 2 things you need to be warned about with those. 1) it will heat your room noticeably after around an hour and 2) that fan can get loud. you may want to install afterburner or precisionx just to set fan speeds. if the temps are under 80c youre fine, other cards go cooler but the FE does get hot. i used mine for 1080p and it was great, better than the 1060 6G. enjoy your system.
@@Dizzer1948 I remember when I got my 980 Herculez X3 for 100€ at the time when the 1080ti still was fairly new
I was excited to build my first gaming pc I bought a fx 8350 with a asus formula z motherboard and 1200w psu
Aio from crosshair Overclocked the Fx to 5ghz and did a Bios mod to the 980 to get the best overclock for it
I just sold them last year to my surprise I mange to get 200€ for the 980 and 200€ for the fx 8350 with the motherboard and ram and case (I kept the 1200w psu because it’s still overkill and useful)
Bought a Gtx 1660ti for 120€ because it was faulty repaired it coupled it with a Xeon e5-1680v2 and a msi military class 32gb ram 4,4ghz overclock on cpu 2133mhz on ram quad channel
The gtx 1660ti should be as fast as a gtx 980ti
This is literally my setup. Except I have a 4790K instead. Build it in 2014 and it's still going strong-ish
I've yet to notice one issue with mine. still works great
On 4790k also i love mine just like to change the 1050 non ti i got
4770k 16gb 970 works fine =)
just bought right now for 300$ same build runs dota csgo and pubg just to good in 1080p
Trusty 4790k o/c with 24gb DDR3 & a 1660 super still working ok for me. Will upgrade everything in a few years when new GPUs are available again !
lol I remember when the 980ti was new
and how a 1080 was 2x the performance of 980's...
1080ti is sweet spot performance range....
6600xt... 2060/super is where I live
I'm still with my trusty GTX 970, I've upgraded everything else just waiting for GPU's like everyone else :P
Same
Same
same here! my 970 sitting with all new hardware looks funny
Was in the same boat till i caved and bought a 6800xt for $1400 which ended up more like $2000 after taxes and shipping.. ugh. But I'm glad i finally got it
CAD not USD btw
Jay was reading bid prices , 980s sell for around $280 and 980ti sell for around $380 currently.
Asking if there's damage in Dirt Rally is like asking if there's violence in Dark Souls
Traction is fiction. Understeer is lyfe
@@ARB6769 Its all about maximum over steer because you mix up your gears and effectively clutch kick before you enter a corner.
🤔 is there Violence in Dark Souls???
Sooo it's not about Dirty Shoes then
From Dirt to TOCA, practically every Codemasters racing game had damage while others were too scared to do anything to licensed vehicles (Looking at you Gran Turismo)
In dirt rally 1, I rammed into a tree in finland (damned gravel roads) about half a car length up the trunk perfectly level, and it was a beautiful wipeout, all four wheels SIMULTANEOUSLY flew off in straight lines in line with the axles. It was almost comical.
4:15 FYI, in my country even 750ti now sells more than when I sold it nearly 5 years ago. Depends on the location, things can get a lot worse than what you see on ebay.
in my Country /Hungary/ even the lower geeforce gtx cards costs over 100 000 HUF used, in my pc the Gtx 1050 TI OC is now at minimum 160 000 Huf so 491 Dollars and i got the whole pc less than this price with the card in it from a pissed of father :D
@@maszkalman3676 That is an stupid amount for an 1050 Ti. In Romania you can find an 970 for around 250-300 USD equivalent.
@@Just4Games2011 well good for you... there is barely any used card in the market that's why the high prices and order from abroad would make the cheap ard not so cheap anymore :D
@@maszkalman3676 I already ran an 970, so not really affected, and RX 6600 XT is still around 800. Still, surprised Hungary is that much worse.
@@Just4Games2011 i was just as shocked when my old pc killed itself, the whole motherboard cooked itself without any sign of problems i pushed the button went to do other stuff and half an hour later the pc still don't get past the windows loaing screen and when i take down the side i realized the motherboard is piping hot... ad the the pc stopped and never restarted. I needed a new one fast and found this with the 1050 ti in it... and it was close to see for myself and can travel there in a few minutes...
Man, that CPU was 8 years ago? Genuinely didn't realise how quick time has flown.
I could've sworn my 3770k was only 5 or so years old. Oh well lol
I've got a 970 in my laptop - still works just fine. I am upgrading the ram and the storage though because that is just getting too slow
@@errhka I got a 970 in my htpc and it does fine with most games too. The old amd a-10 is slowing it way down though lol
“Developers just getting better at optimising for lower end hardware”
-Black Ops Cold War has left the chat.
Facts. I loved that game but my rig struggled.
yeah, imo devs have gotten way, way worse at optimising for low graphics. at many points in my life ive tried to play CS:GO and have gotten literal 0 FPS, but Rocket league ran fine at 30, so much so that I would take my laptop on trips just to play rocket league.
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I know the struggle, been trading up my pc parts for 3 years now. Finally got my dream build almost ready to go!
As so i wish you guys the same!
Great video! My current gaming PC was an old Dell XPS 8700 I found that was going to be e-wasted. I saved it from the scrap heap and have slowly been upgrading it with used components over time to stay cheap. It's now almost unrecognizable from it's original form (new case, new GPU, SSD, etc) and it's still capable of playing most games with decent performance.
I'm running a very similar setup (4790K with an EVGA 980 SC) and have been doing just fine with it. I can't completely max out the settings in more recent games but that's not really an issue since they still look great. The thing now is that it's hard to justify upgrading when building a high-spec setup in 2021 costs twice as much as the build I did back in 2014.
I built my PC in 2015 and I am still running a 4790k and 970. It was perfect and I was completely satisfied with it until these past few months, where it really started showing its age.
I was concerned that the days of good value PC builds were over, but apart from motherboard and GPU costs, parts are not really that much more expensive and for around the same price you get much more premium components now. I just ordered upgrades for everything except GPU, PSU, and storage and it didn't burn as big of a hole in my wallet as I thought it would. No way I'd be able to justify buying a new GPU right now but when Ethereum phases out GPU mining mid 2022 I'm sure it'll be possible to get used cards for around the same prices as what older 900 series cards sold for new
Still rockin my 4790K/z97 build from 2014. Originally paired with 16GBs DDR3 at 2400mhz upgraded to 32GBs as well as a 780Ti then upgraded to RTX 2060.
Nice, I’m still using a 4770/h97, 16gb (1600 though) and rtx 2060. Still alive and kicking
Gaming on a 10 year old PC. I know that feel.
Me too. Me too...
How about 20? 😅😏
Correction: 25.
Me2🤣
@@SOU6900 sheeeesh
And me
4670k gtx 970
I'm doing serious gaming on a 5-year old computer: i7-6700H, 1070 laptop and 16GB 2400MHz RAM. Battery went down to 4Wh so I hooked up an HDMI cable to a monitor and started using it on a $200 monitor and it passes as a 2 to 3-year old desktop.
Update: BIOS sorta messed up the boot cycle but switching from UEFI to Legacy fixed it at least for the time being. Did a full wipe of the drives and a clean install of Windows, and it hasn't run this fast in at least 4 years! If you have a computer and don't wanna sell an old laptop (yet), once you get all the files off you can wipe the drives and use it good as new for a little while. Also great if you wanna sell a laptop but don't wanna risk any of your data being left over on the drives.
That sad moment when the GPU is the last part you need and when you started building the CPU was hard to get. Worst timing I have ever had
When the Intel 920 came out. I was building a system. And had almost got all the parts. Then lost my job. Was going to be my first higher powered pc.
Same happened to me even with the cpu, but then I got lucky and got a good graphics card a few months later. I hope you have similar luck.
I sold my pc right as the pc market crashed and stock went.
Keep trying hombre. My local computer centre told me they called me in April after waiting since November and left a bunch of messages for my 3080 last week. I never received a call or messages from them so I called them back and complained. Said they have a 3090 for me instead of losing a customer. At this point, I couldn't care less about spending another $1200 for a better card. The 3080's cost over $500 MSRP than the 3090's themselves so I consider it a steal even though it's still MSRP.
You’re building with AMD aren’t you.
I was rocking my i5 2500k for gaming up until a few months ago. Run what you brung!
Same here, only replaced in these last months.
My i5 2500 is still great. MSFS is the only game it can’t run. It’s a fantastic CPU.
@@ryanrussell8262 it really is a fantastic CPU. I'm no expert on overclocking and it just takes it like a champ.
I'm still on a 2500k but I'm getting new parts today! It ran everything perfectly until I really started getting into VR. Still a great processor though, ran overclocked to 4.6 ghz for 9 or 10 years :)
I was running a core 2 duo system until 2 years ago. And as soon as I got an fx8150 system for free I was itching to properly upgrade. Covid boredom got me a r5 3600 evga 2060 ko ultra system... the tower is 1400 in parts cost.... woops....
980ti going for $400+ now. So much for that being viable.
Try getting your hands on an rx 570 4gb, miners hate that card and you can game on it 1080p nothing spectacular but works
@@fernandochapa1433 Literally selling for almost double its MSRP at $250+
@@SoficalAspects liking the 960 a lot myself
@@fernandochapa1433 i have my rx 580 4 gb going to be going for sale here soon lol! i wont scalp it, its 3 years old and id ditch it for like 100 bucks. i hate scalpers
@@mr0mime you are a good person sir, just make sure you don’t sell it to a scalper! ;)
I was running an FX 8350 with a radeon 7950. So happy to finally upgrade to Ryzen 7 5800x and a 3060ti with 32gb RAM and Samsung’s Evo 980 pro. Nothing slows this beast!
yeooooo me tooo i still have a fx8370 but i upgraded my gpu from a 7850 to a 6600
Bought a Red Devil RX 580 on eBay 2 years ago for $115. Seeing them go for $500+ has me like 😱🤯😅
I bought 11 second hand ones all for £80 each! It's crazy how much they went up in 6 month!
Who would pay $500 for whats basically a GTX 1660 Super? Thats just plain stupid
That's a vibe. I paid $200 for my Rx 5500XT a year ago and now its going for around $500 as well.
i sold 2 Rx480 8gb for 500$ each a month ago, not complaining lol, there were sitting in a closet
@@alexmentink8567 maybe i should sell my GTX1660 Super...paid $220 for it less than 1 yr ago
I literally just spec'ed a new system this week, but my current one, that I bought back in 2014, is a 4790K Haswell with a GTX 980 and 16mb of 2400 DDR3, and honestly it's played 99% of what I've thrown at it perfectly fine at 1080. Obviously it won't play everything at ultra, but most games it will handle on high (occasionally some tweaking is required to get a decent framerate). I'm only even updating now because my kid needs a PC and it makes sense to get a new system and I'm sure she will be perfectly happy with my old system probably for a few years still.
Unless you absolutely NEED to play the very latest games at the very highest quality with 60+ fps at 1440+, there's a huge amount of value to be had from these older systems.
GTX970 still rocking here :)
3.5GB ftw!
Gave mine to my sons pc, he just play fortnite, minecraft, and apex. Still good gpu
Aww hell yeah we rep the older builds
rookie, I got a GTX 635
I built my friend his first rig and he's rocking a 660 Ti. We refuse to pay these inflated prices to get him something newer
This video hits close home, I have the same specs on my 7yo PC and it's still rocking hard
Yeah, my "main" PC is a 4790k.....still rocking
Same. Still running strong.
Just sold my 4790k what a beast of a cpu had mine watercooled and oc to 5ghz all core
Had a 4790k until about 6 months ago. Was an awesome cpu, but is definitely aging today. Hope you can get a reasonable upgrade soon man!
@@croesuslydias6488 I just upgraded last month from a 4790k an Msi H97i ac motherboard and 16gb 1600mhz ddr3 to an Asrock B550 phantom gaming-Itx/ax --- ryzen 5 3600 (sold the 4790k for £100 bought the ryzen for £100) motherboard was free and just bought 16gb Crucial Ballistix RGB 3600mhz still rocking my 980Ti Hybrid though
I5-4460 ;)
I had a sandy bridge Intel core i3 2100 and an MSI Radeon R7 260x OC for the longest time. 😂
This January I upgraded to Ryzen 9 and got myself an RTX 3060 Ti.
And it's amazing!
I've recently upgraded from an i7 950 and GTX 1050ti to a mid tier up to date pc and i was frankly blown away with how well that old pc managed to handle newer games up until a couple years ago. in saying that, this pc is leagues ahead of the old one and very very very clearly handles things a lot better, just quite surprising what old hardware can do.
Hopefully i'll get my i5 10400 in couple of days, upgrading from i5-4590. Wanted to go with Ryzen, but in my country it's unavailable and generally is more expensive, when stores manage to get it in stock. Now i have rtx2060 (bought it right before pandemic, lol, was accidentaly the smartest move), wanted to build new PC slowly, and i'm so glad i went GPU first, though at a time it seemed like a dumb idea. Hope i'll feel that difference in hardware performance soon too.
Im so grateful for my current PC. Thanks for another video!
It would have been interesting to see how older GPUs perform on current platforms (e.g. Ryzen 5 5600X, i7-10600/11600). Maybe an idea for a follow up video.
a faster CPU certainly helps. I have an RX580 4GB and upgraded from i5-3350P to Ryzen 5 3600 about a year ago. You could tell the difference right away, that old i5 was like driving with the handbrake pulled
I've got an ryzen5 5600x 16gb ddr4 with a gigabyte 1070 gpu.
I play COD black ops mostly and it works great, cant remeber my settings or what FPS i get, but it runs smooth.
that would be bottlenecking the cpu
I have 5600x with 1650 super 4GB, about 980 equivalent.
1080p is great, 1440p is acceptable, however, as Jay have shown you can run into vram problems.
I rarely play in modern AAA titles, things like Horizon Zero Dawn run ok.
I'd love to see that too actually, great shout there
4th gen i5 with a 1050ti and 12 gigs of ddr3. It started as an optliplex 9020 and I did some minimal upgrades.
I'm happy with it :)
Some things I need to do (upgrade my PSU and cpu cooling fan).
O I did it all for about $225 lol
that is cool, is it a SFF or M-ATX case?
@@shaneeslick the M-ATX. For me SFF seemed too hard to work with
@@TheLinkhawkins That's good, heaps better upgrade options for CPU Cooler, GPU & PSU in the big case, a Front intake fan would be a good idea if you can fit one too,
have lots of fun gaming 😁
@@shaneeslick will do!
is the 980 really 7 years old?! damn, I'm getting older fast.
I thought it was going to be a 500 or 600 series card 😂😂
GTX 980 was released on September 18, 2014
i though my 1070ti was 7 years lol
I am using an RX 580...
A few days ago I looked up when the 780ti came out as I was getting into computer hardware just around that time and realized that it was in 2013. I had no clue that it was almost 8 years ago that it came out. It made me realize just why everything is so different today compared to when I was getting into it. My girlfriend is currently trying to get parts for her first build and I have told her a bunch of times that it used to be much more fun because you could run things in SLI and do crazy things like that as well as having more options for what you do with your GPUs and overclocking actually providing a tangible boost. Of course that will have changed in 8 years.
There is a great back catalogue of PC games, older hardware can still be an amazing experience.
Exactly. I still play games from 20 years ago sometimes.
Commenting for engagement. This is a good video, especially considering the current situation we find ourselves in with the chip shortages, scalpers and miners. I'm currently gaming on a Xeon e5-1660 and a gtx 1060. I've run recently BF1, BFV, WoW,and FF14 with no issues. Old, and re-used hardware rocks!
Anthony Fournier
Why you need Xeon, shortages? what did you replaced?
@@lucasrem1870 I've been running this setup for years, friend. Shortages and scalping, are just preventing any kind of upgrade at the moment. I'm patient, though.
I literally just bought this exact setup for my sons first gaming pc from a generous lady for $250 last night. I7-4770 haswell, evga gtx 760 4GB, 16gb Hyperx ddr3, and other goodies
Dope as
After I built my new pc, I built another one out of mostly my old stuff, but in a brand new case and left it at my parents house for them to use. It's about 8 years old, but still decent. Lian li pc-011mini snow white, i7-5830k heatkiller block, asus x99pro3.1, 32gb ddr4, 256gb sm951 nvme, gtx 1070 heatkiller block, corsair ax860i psu, xspc rx360 v3 & rx240 v3 rad gentle typhoon fans, ekwb ddc res/pump combo, frosted pmma tube and no rgb.
I would not use the word "exact", when you compare gtx 980 to gtx 760.
@@neolynxer haha 980 is around twice as fast in some cases
Is that your daughter on you profile pic? Nice. Send her TikTok
At first I thought the title did not apply to me, then I realized I built my PC in 2015 already. Time flies when you are gaming!
yeah, I built my PC in 2012, I had a GTX 680... I am still playing on this PC most game graphics maxed at 1440p, I just changed my GPU for a GTX 1080ti, my CPU is a I7-3820 OC at 4.3 GHz, my ram is DDR 3 in quad channels...
@@kebekbutcher You prove how we should not hype too much about the latest hardware, good job!
Old high-end hardware is great. One of my machines is still running a SANDY BRIDGE 3960X (I salvaged the chip from a workstation that had been thrown in the garbage at a local design shop). I installed it on an old Asus X79 mobo that I bought off ebay for $60, that came with 16GB of DDR3 on it (half its SATA ports are dead but IDC), mounted a refurbed H110i on it, and immediately OC'd it to 4.7 GHz. So I slapped a refurbed EVGA 1080TI on it and it's been running great ever since. Sure, it's 11 or 12 years old, but the chip is a beast and shows no signs of degradation, easily running everything I've thrown at it, and I'm going to keep using it until it's dead.
When the video title describes ones everyday life but you still click on it just to see that its not
And for me, it's not. This doesn't nearly describe my daily pain
My VRam barely reach 1G
@@theAcum feel you brother gtx 750 XD
This is literally my setup right now.
I was one of many waiting on the 3000 series but couldn't afford one at launch.
Hol up u rocking ddr3 and such an old cpu and mbo? I would suggest upgrade these before upgrading ur gpu
Agreed with the other comment. You are gonna bottleneck the $1000 gpu if you are running this build
@@Dizzer1948 I've upgraded my CPU to a ryzen 5 3600X and I'm on DDR4 now. But prior to that my setup was the exact same.
Now my GPU is the bottleneck.
Love my 1070Ti. I'm at a point I think I could justify the performance increase from doing an upgrade, but at current prices to buy into the same performance point as my current rig was when new i'd need to tip in $5-6kAUD. and at that point I cannot justify doing anything at all to the rig.
My current build from 2015 has an i7 4790k and gtx 970, and I purchased upgrades for everything except my GPU, PSU, and storage and it came out to around 650 USD which wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. I don't know if PC components are tariffed heavily down under, but its possible to upgrade for way less than you think as long as you don't even consider buying a new gpu
@@mbvbm3104 I7-12700KF is about $550, Mobo another 4-500 and RAM would be about $500 for 32Gb of DDR 4. So call it $1500 for just the main mobo components. Right now a minimum of another $2k for a video card. So $3.5k assuming i reuse all my existing hard drives and other peripherals. Likely I'd look at a monitor upgrade and see what is around in the 3440x1440 space. DDR 5 Ram is off the table at the moment as none around. Be nearly $1000 for 32Gb of that.
I'm also still rocking my 1070 FTW and haven't really felt the overwhelming need to upgrade it. My motherboard finally kicked the bucket a week or so ago so I am rebuilding, but for now will keep my 1070 until I see what GPU prices are doing. These cards still fetch a decent amount on the secondary market too, which would go a long way to offsetting the cost of a new GPU. I'm happy I took really good care of the card, I think it still has a lot of use left on it for myself or someone else.
Likewise mate, my current build was from 2016. i7 6700k and AIO on HeroVii with a 1070, been happy with it and still am. Been saving for a new build but GPU prices are still up there 🙄
A friend is running a 1070 and it still performs flawless to this day he gets around 100fps in warzone with a 10400f,
Almost everyone has a "old pc" story to tell, the comments are full of them, but it's all a youtuber can do, to say it's still usable. Such a disservice to viewers. I had to buy two new pc's for work but I kept older my 4790, it has a more recent GPU now, a 2070 ti that replaced a 980. Both those graphics cards run games super fast and the 4790 computer is more than enough. A pretty good processor, fast storage and graphics are all you need.
When Jay's almost 9 year old system is still better than your newer one.....🤣🤣🤣
Seriously lol minus the cpu ... i can’t play like 3 AAA titles with my friends atm. That’s about it really . it’s not that bad
then you're doing something wrong
RIP I wish you could get a pc. I still use a relatively old GPU and get really good fps. I use a 1070ti I got it for 200 dollars a year and a half ago
not good lol
@@cdngamereh I love buubs
I’m still on 4770k and 1070ti. It’ll have to do for now until that price comes down on parts
4790k and 1070ti for me. I'd love to build something new, but honestly my PC runs what I play fine, and these days I do more dev work on it than games anyway.
@Hugues Balzac the sarcasm is ripe with that comment lol
Please do more of this type of content, it's great!
i ran a 660ti for like 7 years, it will still do most things i ask it to, upgraded on the first stimulus check to a modern motherboard and i5 cpu with a 1050 and ive never been happier, i agree with jay here, "i have a last gen computer waah i dont have the new shiny play anything at max setting box, pls gib." is a pain in the ass
I am standing here, watching the clip on a Pc from 2007.. It's a piece of history :D
they already have
my cousin has a pc from 2008.
thankfully he only plays roblox.
I still have my 2002 laptop. It's a single core "monstah". I played Diablo on it back then and still works like a charm today.
@@Saintbow which model is it?
I have had my 1070 since 2017 and had no issues with it for years, still runs cool, plays games great and runs any game I throw at perfectly. (except Cyberpunk but we don't talk about that).
Same here. I'm honestly surprised at how well the 1070 held up for me. I think a lot of it has to do with the recent transition to 4K gaming - as long as you stay at 1080p you can still play the same games at high or ultra settings.
felt the same until I played the 2042 beta, definitely time to upgrade
This is why I had to upgrade last spring. Just before the lock down hit.
I'm glad I got some laptops as well last Christmas, all other things aside they do pretty alright when it comes to gaming if you limit your expectations.
Nice you should be fine until Bill Gates and Fauci launch pandemic 2.0
Same here for the same reason!!!
@@club4ghz tf?
same here I had an old xp pc and so I bought all new parts and built my own and for everything I think I spent around 400 bucks. If I did it this year it probably be around 700 to 900 bucks and that's just a basic computer for playing battlefield 4 and I have no graphics card since I have a amd apu
I built a rig with almost these exact parts & sold it for £400 even. Guy's first foray into PC from console for Apex Legends & he's gone for medium settings for 144fps. He's pretty happy with what he got.
I have a 2060 and feel damn blessed.
Now I can say I have a $800 card in my PC 😂
Same with my 2070 Super that I got for $509, worth $900 or so now
5700xt card here.
My GPU hasn't increased in price much.... www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=1650+asus&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=NE81fy&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=3&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1&_fosrp=1
@@alaingraham are you being serious? It's twice it's original price
Same got it for free 2 weeks ago, replaced my 970
Youre prices seem excellent... both the 1060 6gig and 980 4 gig are over 500 bucks where i live. People caught on to the fact that cards like the 980 still provide excellent value
Lulz...So the 980 got up again to MSRP in the US and the $250 US MSRP of the 1060 matched it. What an awful situation we have...😂😂😂
@@takehirolol5962 in the US 1060 and 980s today or selling for about $400 we or in a world of shit as far as GPUS being available hopefully this mining stuff crashes a little harder haha or at least ethereum goes to proof of stake soon I’m saying that and I have 6 GPUs mining in my house at all times but fuck I ain’t got any of the 30 series yet I always buy a new 80 series when they come out this time though I refuse to pay scalpers plus I want a 3090 but 3k for one shit I’ll wait till the mining isn’t profitable and buy me two of em put em in SLI just for the fuck of it hahaha kinda excited for the 4090 at this point but like my 2080ti plays everything I ever play just fine hell my 1080ti still plays great and I use my old pc just as often as my new one but they all have made a ton of cash this year mining on NiceHash when they aren’t being used shit last week I was making 45$ a day during the peak and even after the crash today I’m still making like 23$ everyday and the power cost is less than 5$ to have them all run until it gets where it isn’t profitable though there’s no chance I’m the new GPUS being msrp
@@JoeWayne84 Yep, that's about right.
When I first started PC gaming in 2016, I had an i7 920, and a Radeon HD 7850. I learned how to overclock on that i7. That thing was a beast. It came out in like 2009 and I pushed it to around 4GHz. Good ol times haha
My son got my old i5 4460 +1050ti and he used it for a year without any issues. I upgraded his cpu to an r5 1600af. He is very happy now. The 6years 1050ti is still going strong.
I've seen a big disconnect with some Tech TH-camrs who've completely ignored the hardware shortage or stated things would be resolved soon. Its dam embarrassing you've only got to look at a dam business news website to know this situation won't change anytime soon! good to see you've been on the right side of things!
Thank you for doing this, I wanted to see how good these would've ran before buying the games. Now I've made my decision. Thanks again Jay!
time to upgrade man
@@danchierchia3812 no, not time to upgrade at all man
I fuckin wish it was time to upgrade, man.
@@furosukki1301 get the parts msrp like i did????... wtf are u saying
the crypto aldy crashing, now just waiting for the supply normalize again after the chips shortage
I think an interesting test for this would have been. Pick 1 of the "big releases" that came out for each year since the platform from then until this year and then see where the noticable drop off is (likely this year but still worth a test)
Rdr 2 was only possible to run on 720p on a gtx 960
i remember back when i was gaming on a Radeon HD 5150 gpu people were already talking about RTX cards lol
I finished (2016) Doom with a GTX 770 (2GB) and it was still a fun, engaging experience.
I played Witcher 3 and Rise of the Tomb Raider on a GTX 580/i5 2500 (medium/high settings @ 1080p/30fps). You work with what you got :).
Ohhh it's been 8 years since I bought my i7 4790k. And I still use it! 😂
it's a good cpu but i think it's reaching the end soon with these newer games
Still using mine.
Mine's still alive and kicking. I think mine's around 6 years old.
Shame mine is such a terrible overclocker, but it is still able to cope with what I throw at it.
Devils canyons a BEAST!
Got my 4790k running 4.7ghz, still going strong. 2060 super upgrade a while back.
I feel like I should get some 3d glasses, because of the color of your background, with all the tools hanging on the board.
Tripppppy
I built my current pc in late months of 2013. it had a 4770k, a 780ti, and 16 gbs of ddr3. The only upgrade came in early 2020 when the 780ti died rather unexpectedly on boot up one day. I managed to grab a 2060 on a big sale later that day and have been cruising since. I'd love to build a new pc one of these days (when prices stabilize), but until then I am still served pretty well for how much I manage to be able to game these days.