Also to mention, if you call Hugh (Jane’s dad) and ask him about her guinea pig, he says Jane had a “black” one. Which to me means 1 of 2 things. She killed multiple pets, or it had black fur, but because of the chemicals it changed the animal’s fur color to the orange-ish color shown in the picture on Jane’s desk. Always made me wonder!!!
To add onto the Message in a Haunted Mansion detail, I only noticed during my last playthrough that on the insurance report on Rose's table it mentions something about damage caused to outside shrubbery; this wasn't caused by the culprit, but by you-know-who sneaking into the house (trying to keep this comment spoiler-free)! I didn't know the White Wolf fact before though, what a revelation! I love that there's always more details to discover in these games, no matter how many times we've played them!
RE: Jane’s guinea pig, it makes her decision to drug Linda extra savage. Your guinea pig DIED from the stuff, and you’re still going to drug your step mom? 🫣
@joyfulamy412Nah, she just wanted to make Linda think she was turning into a werewolf. Like WizardKitten said, sometimes kids have trouble connecting the dots.
Like Nancy with any one who's mother died. "How'd your mom die? When did your mom die?" Etc. etc. Nancy... STOP SCREAMING TO THIS POOR PERSON ABOUT THEIR DEAD MOM!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@emilybarilla7077Goes to show how Nancy has no chill. I can't get over her Sassing Anja Simone and even Ingrid with the iconic are you sure youre an engineer line over being told to eat peanut butter on toast.
the iconic guinea pig joke is a prime example of Lani Minella reading her lines without knowing what the context was. Side note. The accident killing of the pet is beyond cruel of a child.
Yes, makes Jane seem a lot more sinister! And the fact that even though the guinea pig had a severe reaction and died, Jane was still willing to use it on Linda!!
@@thefairybug40 reckless endangerment of an animal for an experimental revenge is pretty cruel, in the same game Nancy is kicked out of Blackmoor for accidentally killing LouLou with a bad cake so having bad intentions isn’t necessary to commit actions that have bad outcomes/consequences
@@healgoth Yes, it very much would be cruel, if Jane had for one moment realized the potential consequences of her actions. Thoughtless, reckless, dangerous? Absolutely. Calling it animal cruelty is completely accurate, but calling Jane cruel mischaracterizes her, at least in this capacity. She was a lonely and desperate child, ignorant of the full extent of her actions. She was cruel to *Linda*, because she knew full well that she was torturing her to cause divorce. She was not cruel to her guinea pig, who she had thought would just get some thicker fur for a little while. The little guy's death is a tragedy, but the difference is that Jane is clearly mournful and ashamed of what happened, while the same is not true of Linda. Animal cruelty? One hundred percent, no argument from me. Means that Jane is cruel? No -- her treatment of Linda proves that, but an unintentional and regretted accident does not.
The HAU one is so creepy and I never noticed it! Another one (which maybe is obvious, but not to me) is that the journal entries Nancy finds in TMB belong to Jamila’s mother. It makes me so upset that Nancy never gives Jamila her mother’s last words before she died.
Great video! I knew all of them except the White Wolf one about Freddy being the one that broke the window!! That explains why Lou mentions that "there was no rock on the floor" nothing to indicate how it was broken. The ice ball melted! Also, Guadalupe is the one who destroyed the fishing shack. It always bugged me how nonchalant she and the game is about the fact that she did some serious damage and committed crimes (destroying private property/vandalism). And messing with someone's sights on their gun is super serious! Because if they think they are aiming at one thing, but they are actually aiming at another, they could hurt someone or something unintentionally! And if you talk with Guadalupe on the phone, at one point she mentions "I've done much worse while working for Run & Grow Free believe me". I like the wolf and don't want to see it get hurt, but when Ollie throws Guadalupe out, I'm always like "good!" haha Okay, rant over haha 😂
Fun video! I'm proud to say I knew most of these, but there were a few that surprised me! Another one to add to the list-I've noticed many people miss Colin's delivery of "tainted sausages" in Phantom of Venice. Or if they do trigger the sequence, they don't always follow up with confirming it was him with the handwriting comparison.
Regarding the Captive Curse one: That would also explain why 'monster' incidents are always preceded by animals going missing or being killed. Serial killers often start by hurting animals, then escalate to people.
My personal understanding with henrik and Taylor was that he wanted to stop Taylor’s black market dealings and was pretending to be interested in taking part. Those notes are so funny to read because henrik is SO annoyed by him. I could be wrong but I don’t think it’s brought up at the end of the game because henrik didn’t actually want to participate for ‘bad intentions’. To me, the notes made sense as to why he had the ham radio and the ‘buy milk’ note for the black market password. He wanted to buy off the black market to put the artifacts back in good hands!
I love that I switched from a Sims Let's Play to a Nancy Drew video and the intro screen is Sims themed. As for the video: My theory for Aunt Eloise owning the NYC apartment is that maybe she and Carson pitched in to get it, or maybe Carson bought it outright and it's literally like a little family vacation spot. I'm dating the son of a lawyer rn and one thing is that they're always traveling too, so maybe Carson has a lot of cases in New York and needed a more semi-permanent residence there. I think the BIGGER question is how was she friends with Mattie Jensen?
Great Vid as always! But isn't there something in CUR you can find that says Jane's mother is Italy, which is also where Hugh is? Pretty scandalous lol
@Rltc2191 I thought about including that! You can ask Hugh about it and he says it's just a coincidence and he didn't know she was there, which could be true...but could be false!
I think the implications around the monster legends is why I liked captive curse more upon replays as I better understood the legend, and that’s why it ended up being one of my favs. The characters in the game are goofy and off beat, but it’s contrasted with how when you dig deeper they all have something dark in their past that they are avoiding addressing directly. Just like the castles history. And while most games with a spooky setting will try to demystify the location’s spookiness at the end so that the characters can continue on with their lives, in captive curse all of the named characters you meet end up leaving the castle instead in order to move forward.
ooo this was such a good idea for a video! maybe another video topic would be rare / hard to trigger events and conversations? i know there's a few specific dialogue trees you only get if you call people in the exact right order
I didn’t know most of these so I appreciate these little details. You can easily miss them if you don’t choose certain dialogue options or explore an area at a certain time in the game. 🕵🏼♀️
I haven't played Blackmoor manor recently but don't we find a letter from Jane's uncle in the well, not a prescription, implying that he gave her the hair tonic because she told him her guinea pig was losing its hair? I hadn't thought about the Castle Malloy one before, I thought Fiona just survived by luck but it would make sense that she was flying her jetpack at the time I was trying to think of more examples of scandalous details from the games, not sure if these count: In WAC you find out Rachel and Kim split their classes between them, each only doing half a course load but they still needed Nancy's help with homework. This, plus the fact that they applied for scholarships all over the country and only got 1, suggests they are actually terrible students. In GTH, Clara created a fancy wedding menu and Colton said they should have shrimp and grits and fried chicken because that's what everyone would rather have. Later you find that Charlotte planned to have this exact food at her birthday party. There are many ways to interpret that (Clara is more focused on keeping up with appearances while Charlotte was more focused on substance and making sure people are happy?) In DOG we find out that the well water contains high amounts of arsenic. We never find out if someone intentionally poisoned it, but we later find a large amount of gold bars buried underground, right under the house. Arsenic is commonly found in gold deposits and can contaminate water near gold mining so it's possible Mickey Malone's treasure was the cause of bad well water. (I'm not actually sure if this was said in the game, I can't remember)
Stay tuned for danger is one of my favourite ND games which I first played almost 20 years ago and replayed or rewatched it multiple times over the years, yet I was today years old when I found out Rick sent some of the death threats to himself, WHAT??? 🤯🤯🤯
I thought you can find a note in the well from Jane’s uncle that he gave her something for her guinea pig? Which now that I think about it is very weird…
I didn't find the note in my first play through, but I was like "Jane literally could have murdered her step mom. The characters don't seem like they're treating this with the seriousness they should."
@@WizardKittenYTI can understand a kid being upset that their parents are getting a divorce trust me I’m an adult whos parents divorced but what Jane did was unforgivable she should be grounded massively for this
This isn’t a scandalous detail, but this is an interesting detail. In Design we find a red book with a letter from a French Resistance member Rose P. What’s interesting about this detail is that if you’ve played Blackmoor, you know what the P stands for! In Jane’s family tree she has a relative named Rose who lived in France and was said to be a French Resistance member.
It was within the past year that I finally put the dots together on the Captive Curse scandalous detail. I remember being a little weirded out after I played it because I went, "wait, so there's no real monster, then what was that thing in the opening cutscene with the girl?" but the more I thought about it--the fact that we never saw the "monster's" face and this immortal monster wasn't real--the more it made sense. I think the worst part is finding the scarf from Renata's sister in the dark tunnels underneath the castle. I think the game tries to attribute this to "oh, the wind took it down there," but no, Renata's sister was likely abducted and taken beneath the castle to meet a terrible end. That is *horrifying* and because people attribute these disappearances to a monster, they don't act because what are you going to do against a monster? Young women have been vanishing for well over a century near that castle. That's messed up.
Aunt Eloise doesn’t just own an apartment in NYC, she owns an apartment like two blocks from Central Park, aka some of the most expensive real estate in the world
@@WizardKittenYTsome people are so ME ME ME ME that they will do anything for attention and to make sure all the attention is on them so it sounds like Rick has or suffers from NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER but he should go see a PSYCHIATRIST for that
i feel like i never hear anyone mention the alluded to abuse that Fiona suffered after moving into the bog hut, like i get it's dark and her story is already tragic but i also feel weird that it seems to get ignored. CW as i explain what i remember was the insinuation The woman in the bog didn't know how to care for children and had her own mental health issues. this is why she couldn't really help Fiona with socializing and things. Along with this because she got overwhelmed and didn't know how to/couldn't handle caring for a child she would sometimes keep her in a cage. you know that cage with all the gnats you have to get an item from? yea...
What about Minette's face tattoo in Danger by Design? Didn't she get it because she went on a crazy dare date with Sonny Joon and that's why she also broke up with Dieter and won't talk about it?
Also to mention, if you call Hugh (Jane’s dad) and ask him about her guinea pig, he says Jane had a “black” one. Which to me means 1 of 2 things. She killed multiple pets, or it had black fur, but because of the chemicals it changed the animal’s fur color to the orange-ish color shown in the picture on Jane’s desk. Always made me wonder!!!
I had never noticed that!! Or Hugh's just so uninvolved as a parent that he doesn't remember his kid's guinea pig color, lol
@@WizardKittenYTyeah that’s honestly a possibility lol
To add onto the Message in a Haunted Mansion detail, I only noticed during my last playthrough that on the insurance report on Rose's table it mentions something about damage caused to outside shrubbery; this wasn't caused by the culprit, but by you-know-who sneaking into the house (trying to keep this comment spoiler-free)! I didn't know the White Wolf fact before though, what a revelation! I love that there's always more details to discover in these games, no matter how many times we've played them!
@@snughly yes!! Good point about the shrubs!
RE: Jane’s guinea pig, it makes her decision to drug Linda extra savage. Your guinea pig DIED from the stuff, and you’re still going to drug your step mom? 🫣
OMG that is such a good point!! Especially because kid brain logic would probably make her think that it might actually kill Linda. EEK!
I thought the same thing! Makes Jane seem a lot more sinister!
the high pitched WHEN was too funny like Nancy it's a dead pet I don't think Jane wants to relive that DAY
@joyfulamy412Nah, she just wanted to make Linda think she was turning into a werewolf. Like WizardKitten said, sometimes kids have trouble connecting the dots.
The way you nonchalantly mentioned the guinea pig died before mimicking nancys cheerful "WHEN" line never fails to make me laugh😂😂😂😂 5:19
WHEN?! 🤣
Like Nancy with any one who's mother died. "How'd your mom die? When did your mom die?" Etc. etc. Nancy... STOP SCREAMING TO THIS POOR PERSON ABOUT THEIR DEAD MOM!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@emilybarilla7077Goes to show how Nancy has no chill. I can't get over her Sassing Anja Simone and even Ingrid with the iconic are you sure youre an engineer line over being told to eat peanut butter on toast.
I quote this allll the time 😅
the iconic guinea pig joke is a prime example of Lani Minella reading her lines without knowing what the context was.
Side note. The accident killing of the pet is beyond cruel of a child.
Yes, makes Jane seem a lot more sinister! And the fact that even though the guinea pig had a severe reaction and died, Jane was still willing to use it on Linda!!
Yeah, Jane's a lot more evil than I think many of us realized!
Whoa now, how does an accident make her cruel? She didn't want that outcome.
@@thefairybug40 reckless endangerment of an animal for an experimental revenge is pretty cruel, in the same game Nancy is kicked out of Blackmoor for accidentally killing LouLou with a bad cake so having bad intentions isn’t necessary to commit actions that have bad outcomes/consequences
@@healgoth Yes, it very much would be cruel, if Jane had for one moment realized the potential consequences of her actions. Thoughtless, reckless, dangerous? Absolutely. Calling it animal cruelty is completely accurate, but calling Jane cruel mischaracterizes her, at least in this capacity. She was a lonely and desperate child, ignorant of the full extent of her actions. She was cruel to *Linda*, because she knew full well that she was torturing her to cause divorce. She was not cruel to her guinea pig, who she had thought would just get some thicker fur for a little while. The little guy's death is a tragedy, but the difference is that Jane is clearly mournful and ashamed of what happened, while the same is not true of Linda. Animal cruelty? One hundred percent, no argument from me. Means that Jane is cruel? No -- her treatment of Linda proves that, but an unintentional and regretted accident does not.
Oh! The Yumi sitch makes sense now!!! Thank you and that fellow detective!
Right?! I wish I could remember who I was talking with about it. I couldn't find the conversation in my DMs, lol
The HAU one is so creepy and I never noticed it! Another one (which maybe is obvious, but not to me) is that the journal entries Nancy finds in TMB belong to Jamila’s mother. It makes me so upset that Nancy never gives Jamila her mother’s last words before she died.
@@rachelnorthauthor ooh yes!! I should've mentioned that one, that's a good one!
That revelation about CC was chilling, C. Explains why the villagers never mounted an attack to try and kill a SINGLE monster after hundreds of years
Right?!
Great video! I knew all of them except the White Wolf one about Freddy being the one that broke the window!! That explains why Lou mentions that "there was no rock on the floor" nothing to indicate how it was broken. The ice ball melted!
Also, Guadalupe is the one who destroyed the fishing shack. It always bugged me how nonchalant she and the game is about the fact that she did some serious damage and committed crimes (destroying private property/vandalism). And messing with someone's sights on their gun is super serious! Because if they think they are aiming at one thing, but they are actually aiming at another, they could hurt someone or something unintentionally! And if you talk with Guadalupe on the phone, at one point she mentions "I've done much worse while working for Run & Grow Free believe me". I like the wolf and don't want to see it get hurt, but when Ollie throws Guadalupe out, I'm always like "good!" haha Okay, rant over haha 😂
Such a good point about Lupe! So dangerous!!
Fun video! I'm proud to say I knew most of these, but there were a few that surprised me! Another one to add to the list-I've noticed many people miss Colin's delivery of "tainted sausages" in Phantom of Venice. Or if they do trigger the sequence, they don't always follow up with confirming it was him with the handwriting comparison.
Oh gosh I love the sausages subplot, what a funny hidden detail!!
@@WizardKittenYT Me too! I get so sad when people miss out, it's hilarious haha
OMG I never realized that about the HAU journal or why the tower stairs were out! That is chilling!!!
Right?! So chilling!!
Same! I never noticed the date/timing of the entry before!
Regarding the Captive Curse one: That would also explain why 'monster' incidents are always preceded by animals going missing or being killed. Serial killers often start by hurting animals, then escalate to people.
@@thefairybug40 good point!
Re: Aunt Eloise. It wouldn't surprise me if sleuthing and spycraft runs in the family...
@@laurenm3148 she's definitely up to something!
Perfect cozy viewing after we got some fresh snow 😊
Hooray for snow!!
@@WizardKittenYTnot for me here we have a blizzard warning even at one point it was so dangerous it was life threatening
My personal understanding with henrik and Taylor was that he wanted to stop Taylor’s black market dealings and was pretending to be interested in taking part. Those notes are so funny to read because henrik is SO annoyed by him. I could be wrong but I don’t think it’s brought up at the end of the game because henrik didn’t actually want to participate for ‘bad intentions’. To me, the notes made sense as to why he had the ham radio and the ‘buy milk’ note for the black market password. He wanted to buy off the black market to put the artifacts back in good hands!
@@halliedevich8949 oh, so he would have been undercover almost? That could've been!
@ like I said I don’t know if that is actually true but that’s where my brain went! We know henrik has stolen for the greater good before…lol
I love that I switched from a Sims Let's Play to a Nancy Drew video and the intro screen is Sims themed.
As for the video: My theory for Aunt Eloise owning the NYC apartment is that maybe she and Carson pitched in to get it, or maybe Carson bought it outright and it's literally like a little family vacation spot. I'm dating the son of a lawyer rn and one thing is that they're always traveling too, so maybe Carson has a lot of cases in New York and needed a more semi-permanent residence there. I think the BIGGER question is how was she friends with Mattie Jensen?
@@labrxx ooh like a vacation house! Could be!
Great Vid as always! But isn't there something in CUR you can find that says Jane's mother is Italy, which is also where Hugh is? Pretty scandalous lol
@Rltc2191 I thought about including that! You can ask Hugh about it and he says it's just a coincidence and he didn't know she was there, which could be true...but could be false!
I think the implications around the monster legends is why I liked captive curse more upon replays as I better understood the legend, and that’s why it ended up being one of my favs. The characters in the game are goofy and off beat, but it’s contrasted with how when you dig deeper they all have something dark in their past that they are avoiding addressing directly. Just like the castles history. And while most games with a spooky setting will try to demystify the location’s spookiness at the end so that the characters can continue on with their lives, in captive curse all of the named characters you meet end up leaving the castle instead in order to move forward.
I absolutely agree!!
ooo this was such a good idea for a video! maybe another video topic would be rare / hard to trigger events and conversations? i know there's a few specific dialogue trees you only get if you call people in the exact right order
the way i almost quite literally dropped my dinner when i realized you'd uploaded a new video and rushed to watch it!!!!!
@@pinkjaguar12 lol, yay!! Enjoy!
Omg great timing! I'm home sick with COVID so this video perked me right up!
@sarahnoe1588 oh no! Sending healing vibes your way! I hope you feel better soon!
I didn’t know most of these so I appreciate these little details. You can easily miss them if you don’t choose certain dialogue options or explore an area at a certain time in the game. 🕵🏼♀️
@@ryanpepper8188 yay! I'm so glad they were new!
The guinea pig thing with the black verses orange has always blown my mind!
@SouthernSleuth I wonder if the medication changed the hair color? Like she used too much and it had side effects?
@ or if it fried it 😅😅
Also wouldn’t shock me if Hugh was just such a bad dad that he had no clue
@SouthernSleuth LMAO 🤣 I've always thought of it as Hugh being a bad dad too. He's just around so little that he's clueless.
I haven't played Blackmoor manor recently but don't we find a letter from Jane's uncle in the well, not a prescription, implying that he gave her the hair tonic because she told him her guinea pig was losing its hair?
I hadn't thought about the Castle Malloy one before, I thought Fiona just survived by luck but it would make sense that she was flying her jetpack at the time
I was trying to think of more examples of scandalous details from the games, not sure if these count:
In WAC you find out Rachel and Kim split their classes between them, each only doing half a course load but they still needed Nancy's help with homework. This, plus the fact that they applied for scholarships all over the country and only got 1, suggests they are actually terrible students.
In GTH, Clara created a fancy wedding menu and Colton said they should have shrimp and grits and fried chicken because that's what everyone would rather have. Later you find that Charlotte planned to have this exact food at her birthday party. There are many ways to interpret that (Clara is more focused on keeping up with appearances while Charlotte was more focused on substance and making sure people are happy?)
In DOG we find out that the well water contains high amounts of arsenic. We never find out if someone intentionally poisoned it, but we later find a large amount of gold bars buried underground, right under the house. Arsenic is commonly found in gold deposits and can contaminate water near gold mining so it's possible Mickey Malone's treasure was the cause of bad well water. (I'm not actually sure if this was said in the game, I can't remember)
@@bookworm598 ooh! I'd never thought of the arsenic connection before!
I think Freddie and Jane would be great friends. But I’d be terrified of would they would get up to together 😂
@EmilySmith-vx3ro then add Lukas into the mix and we're really in trouble 😂
In the town files of the white Wolf Fire Circle, Creek there’s dialogue that says
I definitely got surprised by a few of these! I always say Captive Curse is underrated...but this wasn't necessarily why
@@brunette3cookie I'm glad there were some new ones!!
Stay tuned for danger is one of my favourite ND games which I first played almost 20 years ago and replayed or rewatched it multiple times over the years, yet I was today years old when I found out Rick sent some of the death threats to himself, WHAT??? 🤯🤯🤯
Right?! It's so easy to miss!
What a way to start of this muggy Wednesday with a new video!! 😊🕵🏻♀️
Yay! Enjoy!!
I thought you can find a note in the well from Jane’s uncle that he gave her something for her guinea pig? Which now that I think about it is very weird…
@summerreadingnook Jane asked him for the medication, saying it was for her guinea pig. The fact the uncle agreed is frankly pretty wild 🫠
omg a new nancy drew analysis video 😍 i’ve missed these so much! Love your work as always WK!
Thank you!!
I was just talking about psychopathic guinea pig murderer lol. It needs to be talked about more. Awareness for murder Jane
LMAO, 100%
I didn't find the note in my first play through, but I was like "Jane literally could have murdered her step mom. The characters don't seem like they're treating this with the seriousness they should."
Unforgivable villain moment of harming a pet.
So it killed the pet, then she went ahead and used it on her step mom?! Dastardly
@@strawberryart3886 right?! Jane is kinda vicious
@@WizardKittenYTI can understand a kid being upset that their parents are getting a divorce trust me I’m an adult whos parents divorced but what Jane did was unforgivable she should be grounded massively for this
This isn’t a scandalous detail, but this is an interesting detail. In Design we find a red book with a letter from a French Resistance member Rose P. What’s interesting about this detail is that if you’ve played Blackmoor, you know what the P stands for! In Jane’s family tree she has a relative named Rose who lived in France and was said to be a French Resistance member.
It was within the past year that I finally put the dots together on the Captive Curse scandalous detail. I remember being a little weirded out after I played it because I went, "wait, so there's no real monster, then what was that thing in the opening cutscene with the girl?" but the more I thought about it--the fact that we never saw the "monster's" face and this immortal monster wasn't real--the more it made sense. I think the worst part is finding the scarf from Renata's sister in the dark tunnels underneath the castle. I think the game tries to attribute this to "oh, the wind took it down there," but no, Renata's sister was likely abducted and taken beneath the castle to meet a terrible end. That is *horrifying* and because people attribute these disappearances to a monster, they don't act because what are you going to do against a monster? Young women have been vanishing for well over a century near that castle. That's messed up.
@@Cometstarlight great summary! It's such a dark story!
I love the fact that the name Rick Arlen uses in the threats he sends to himself is just his real last name but scrambled.
He's so clever 😅
Aunt Eloise doesn’t just own an apartment in NYC, she owns an apartment like two blocks from Central Park, aka some of the most expensive real estate in the world
@@edenvirgil tell me your secrets, Aunt Eloise!
I will never understand why someone would want to THREATHEN themselves
@@nerdygeekgamer5528 such a Rick Arlen move 😅
@@WizardKittenYTsome people are so ME ME ME ME that they will do anything for attention and to make sure all the attention is on them so it sounds like Rick has or suffers from NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER but he should go see a PSYCHIATRIST for that
Scandalous details was not on my bingo card. Love it. Thanks, WK! 🧙🐱
Bahaha! Always happy to surprise!
i feel like i never hear anyone mention the alluded to abuse that Fiona suffered after moving into the bog hut, like i get it's dark and her story is already tragic but i also feel weird that it seems to get ignored. CW as i explain what i remember was the insinuation
The woman in the bog didn't know how to care for children and had her own mental health issues. this is why she couldn't really help Fiona with socializing and things. Along with this because she got overwhelmed and didn't know how to/couldn't handle caring for a child she would sometimes keep her in a cage. you know that cage with all the gnats you have to get an item from? yea...
@@AlkemyFrost-ju4hx it really is so tragic 😥
@WizardKittenYT it is, I feel so bad for her, she deserved better
What about Minette's face tattoo in Danger by Design? Didn't she get it because she went on a crazy dare date with Sonny Joon and that's why she also broke up with Dieter and won't talk about it?
@@sophiathesophisticated1383 ooh that would've been a good one to include!