Charlie could have easily been arrested for breaking and entering, trespassing, or even stalking in MHM since he was LIVING IN THE WALLS of a house he didn't own and had never met the owner of which is SO CREEPY and Nancy treats it like its nothing and is never resolved in the end.
This is what I've always said! He's a criminal and it's just brushed aside like nothing lol Nancy could've grilled him more or outed him to the authorities easily.
Very true!! And I was so close to including him on this list, but my thinking was sort of that he didn't get away with it because Nancy caught him. I'm assuming he did end up needing to tell Rose and Abby, but you're absolutely right! Major breaking, entering, and trespassing!
Not only that, but there is probably no need for him to even be there. The postcard we find suggests that he has a good relationship with his parents, so he may be able to live with them in Iowa and go to college there. I see no need for him to live and go to school in San Francisco. Fun fact: Secretly living in someone's basement/attic/crawlspace/etc. while the homeowners are still living there is a crime in and of itself. The word for it is "phrogging."
“I checked, and as a police officer, it is very much illegal to plant evidence and try to implicate someone.” The laugh I laughed, followed by my fiancée shouting, “Sassy Nancy!”
Henry sells off Bruno's assets before he legally can. Nancy calls him on it and he says he'll stop, but other than that nothing really happens to him...
Even though it's not an official crime, Jane from Curse of Blackmoor Manor, did technically get away with trying to scare Linda. At least I don't remember her getting punished.
I mean assault charges would be applicable I would think. Or something along those lines, and something to the effect of misuse of a prescription medication. Jane was drugging Linda without her knowledge with prescription medication. At least in the US I think there would be a charge that could be found. But she’s a misunderstood kid with trauma so she gets away with it.
I know Lori Gerard technically gets caught, but I think she almost qualifies for this list due to how little punishment she receives for ATTEMPTED MURDER lol
Love starting my mornings with a Wizard Kitten video. I cant think of anyone else who got away with it. I would be very curious, maybe a video idea one day, if you could create a Nancy Drew game from scratch what would it be? Where? What's the crime? Who arebthe suspects?
Clara definitely should have been charged with at least involuntary manslaughter. For real. And yes, Topham was such a shyster. He easily could have been the main culprit. Ick. Charlie from MHM could have been charged with trespassing. I’m sure I’ll think of more.
If they hadn’t tried blending the plots of more than one book, he would have been a perfect, and honestly much more convincing culprit, rather than being such a last second red herring basically.
Doesn't Clara Thornton also get away with the mistreatment of her factory workers? Iirc she blames Wade for it, and he goes to jail for the deadly fire that happened.--Her second fire-based crime, I'm now realizing.--Clara has some real internal demons to work through...
I don't think you've done this, but maybe a video about the most iconic quotes from the ND games? Three of my favorites: "Do you have a steady back home?" "Do you Smoke?" "Uh, only when I'm on fire." "I may have to cut this short, Hal. Someone just climbed out of my wardrobe." Love your videos! :D
Headcannon/spoiler barrier #1, thank you for the fascinating content and sending me down a rabbit hole of questions. It’s always been a personal headcannon of mine that Dylan didn’t get charged with anything and had all the “show up before anyone knew” things happen to him because he was undercover investigating the black market for either Interpol or the Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities of Egypt. I know there is no evidence of that in the game, but it makes a meh character a bit more interesting. I was surprised when I did a bit of googling on truancy laws. It turns out in the good old US of A, the age is 16 in most places. So as long as Kim is over 16, it’s not illegal. Is it right, no probably not, but what is interesting is if they are over 16 but under 18, Rachel and Kim’s parents could be charged with neglect of a minor for failing to secure a place for both girls somewhere. (Also my personal headcannon is they had to both complete all classes before being allowed to graduate, but that’s just me.). It also does not matter if Tino was on duty or not. Planting evidence is still a crime punishable by six months to a year in prison. Tino should absolutely have lost his badge and Nancy could easily face charges for concealment of evidence tampering. That could be an interesting video, what could Nancy be charged with…
I'm with you on the Kim/Rachel head canon front! The wrap-up said that they were both awarded full scholarships to the school, which makes a lot more sense if they have to repeat their senior year in order to catch up on the many courses they missed by doing Ye Olde Twin Swap.
I wonder what Wade thinks about Clara getting away with what she did, considering that he was put into jail for trying to stop her treating her workers like slaves. I've always wondered about that.
Yes I’ve wondered the same thing for the twins ! Does Kim just not exist on any kind of record??? If they’re not 18 don’t they legally have to be enrolled in some kind of schooling? It’s bugged me for years…..
Okay and what even was their plan if they did graduate? Only one of them was going to get their diploma. And even if they got valedictorian only one would have had the scholarship. So they somehow sneak to college together? Pretty hard to hide a twin in a college dorm with a roommate. Also… them finding the secret room made it odd as well. How did they think they were going to split the Waverly spot before that? Have one of them hide under the bed?
Colin Baxter from Phantom of Venice. I mean he is living under a false identity after his prison time, falsely presenting himself. And he goes against his employment using expensive materials, (though honestly go Colin for sticking it to the man). To add onto that, Margarita paying him much lower than he was worth (is it even minimum wage? We dont know) under the threat of blackmail and destroying any chance he has at a new life.
That's an interesting case, and I think could be an example in a different video - one about ethically grey characters in the Nancy Drew games. Given how hard it is for many people with criminal records to get and keep even the most menial of jobs, one can be empathetic about the desire to start afresh. Colin's use of better quality materials than he agreed to is also a grey area, since he may be going against his employment contract but he's doing better work for the benefit of history and craftsmanship. It's certainly less criminal than charging for top quality materials, buying shoddy supplies, and then pocketing the difference, which is all too common a form of fraud!
Some truly worrying things have been happening recently in this country, so let’s just say I really needed a distraction. Great video as always Also, like if you hate Topham as much as I do👇
I ALWAYS HATE HOW TOPHAM GET AWAY WITH IT!!!! 😠 I also HATE Balducci and Talbot, so.... I don't like them getting away either. Can I also just say that I hate the Dwayne is no where to be found!!!
@dragonslayersworkshop8598 literally!!!! He's just like yeah I do it... and I'm like, "yeah and you're going to jail!" And Nan is like... "sure, Em, if that's what you want." Proceeds to do nothing 😶😶
Not a lawyer here, but I believe plagiarizing a large enough portion of someone's work can still be considered a copyright infringement (even if a copyright isn't filed).
I've only played Shattered Medallion once, but didn't Sonny Joon more or less hijack the game show Nancy and her friends were on to pursue treasure, or something? I can't remember if he technically went through legal routes or not, but I feel like he could be up on this list.
You're asking the wrong amnesiac. From an EP attorney: Clara, there is no statute of limitations on homicide. Also, an ultra rich 18 year old having a Will isn't that odd. Leaving everything to your only sibling at 18 instead of your cousin isn't odd. Hding your Will so no one KNOWS this until the estate has closed is infuriating
Joy from The Haunted Carousel sabotaged the roller coaster, injuring someone. I know she confessed eventually, but she got a happy ending riding the carousel. I feel like there has to be a crime in sabotage leading to injury.
Everything about Clara's storyline confuses me. Setting a fire would "scare" someone? Into doing WHAT? esp. if it was not know that Clara did it? It just seems psychotic. And someone died, so...
Right?! And Clara is clearly a very intelligent person, which makes me think she's just saying it would "scare" Charlotte as her excuse. Not a very good one, though.
So is that why Nancy is constantly traveling? She is fleeing from her crimes? Have you ranked her internships? I didn't see it when I looked but could be wrong
I also think that in the option where Nancy doesn’t save Clara at the end of GTH, that's also another way she could get away with the crime. She doesn’t make it out of the house, thus doesn’t have the chance to face legal consequences.
Yo this never really crossed my mind as the suspects who got away with it i was definetly the most interested in rachel and kims case as it didnt cross my mind that they violated the rules with attending the school in secret
Well, Nancy herself belongs on the list for petty theft alone. Ransom of the Seven Ships has to be considered the only game where Nancy flat out lost. The culprit not only got away, but she handed him the treasure. It would be horrifically bad writing for Nancy to be defeated, then have the culprit conveniently get himself killed, just to make it appear to be a win. That's not to say it couldn't happen, only that it would be terrible writing. Let's see, didn't some of the suspects in Secrets Can Kill commit crimes? Didn't the Hulk steal steroids? Connie didn't commit a crime but she broke the rules of the Judo competition she was in, and escaped the consequences.
I know others have mentioned it, but cheeky charlie and his squatting is definitely illegal. Its illegal to squat in the uk, and qhen i googled it, apparently its illegal in san fransisco too. I know he was discovered buy we dont hear what happened to him. Hes probably still there.... but as nancy is still only 18... its probably only been 2 weeks 😂.
@sophinda6292 lol, that was my reasoning for not including him, since Nancy technically caught him! But the consensus in the comments is definitely that he should've been on the list!
This might be totally wrong, but isn’t Anja lying on her resume in CAP also a crime? I know Nancy calls her out on it especially with the Castle Cast thing, but she was getting away with it until then?
Rachel and Kim aren’t my favorite cup of tea and should have been expelled ! I like the ending of Ransom because it feels a bit scary wondering if Dwayne is still out there or did he perish. Also, were you the one who said you had a major crush on Tino ? No judgment if so 🕵🏼♀️
Charlie could have easily been arrested for breaking and entering, trespassing, or even stalking in MHM since he was LIVING IN THE WALLS of a house he didn't own and had never met the owner of which is SO CREEPY and Nancy treats it like its nothing and is never resolved in the end.
This is what I've always said! He's a criminal and it's just brushed aside like nothing lol
Nancy could've grilled him more or outed him to the authorities easily.
Very true!! And I was so close to including him on this list, but my thinking was sort of that he didn't get away with it because Nancy caught him. I'm assuming he did end up needing to tell Rose and Abby, but you're absolutely right! Major breaking, entering, and trespassing!
Not only that, but there is probably no need for him to even be there. The postcard we find suggests that he has a good relationship with his parents, so he may be able to live with them in Iowa and go to college there. I see no need for him to live and go to school in San Francisco.
Fun fact: Secretly living in someone's basement/attic/crawlspace/etc. while the homeowners are still living there is a crime in and of itself. The word for it is "phrogging."
“I checked, and as a police officer, it is very much illegal to plant evidence and try to implicate someone.”
The laugh I laughed, followed by my fiancée shouting, “Sassy Nancy!”
LOL 😂
Henry sells off Bruno's assets before he legally can. Nancy calls him on it and he says he'll stop, but other than that nothing really happens to him...
Ooh, that's a good one! He does get away with it!
Honestly finding out the reasoning behind Henry's decision is pretty sad.
Mason and ellie from deadly device. They stole reasearch from work. But only got into a dork fight with grey
I thought about including them too! I considered Grey catching up with them getting caught and not fully getting away with it, but great point!
I would say also maybe Victor from Deadly Device too. He was able to successfully murder a guy and was so close to pushing the blame onto someone else
Even though it's not an official crime, Jane from Curse of Blackmoor Manor, did technically get away with trying to scare Linda. At least I don't remember her getting punished.
@HelenaWieler-wiat lol, true! The whole Penvellyn family just decided to overlook psychologically traumatizing and drugging your step mother 😳
I mean assault charges would be applicable I would think. Or something along those lines, and something to the effect of misuse of a prescription medication. Jane was drugging Linda without her knowledge with prescription medication. At least in the US I think there would be a charge that could be found. But she’s a misunderstood kid with trauma so she gets away with it.
I know Lori Gerard technically gets caught, but I think she almost qualifies for this list due to how little punishment she receives for ATTEMPTED MURDER lol
LOL, true!
I'm of the opinion Last Train to Blue Moon Canyon could've been fine without a culprit imho, but hey, Lori was a dumdum.
Her dad just takes away her allowance and cuts her off it think 😂
Love starting my mornings with a Wizard Kitten video. I cant think of anyone else who got away with it. I would be very curious, maybe a video idea one day, if you could create a Nancy Drew game from scratch what would it be? Where? What's the crime? Who arebthe suspects?
Ooh, I have many thoughts for this prompt! Thanks for the suggestion!
Don’t worry, according to Tino Balducci in White Wolf, it’s all “water under the bridge 😁”
@@katherinelennon668 ugh, TiNo bAldUcCi?! 😅
@@katherinelennon668 Chantal is annoying for making us call and fill out that dumb survey that doesn’t help solve the case lol
@ Oh my gosh that blasted survey is so annoying!!
Clara definitely should have been charged with at least involuntary manslaughter. For real.
And yes, Topham was such a shyster. He easily could have been the main culprit. Ick.
Charlie from MHM could have been charged with trespassing.
I’m sure I’ll think of more.
Agreed!
If they hadn’t tried blending the plots of more than one book, he would have been a perfect, and honestly much more convincing culprit, rather than being such a last second red herring basically.
Perfect video for my day! We just had a historical snowfall in New Orleans and I’m confined to the warmth of my house 😅
Omigosh! Snow in New Orleans?! Enjoy your snowy day!
Doesn't Clara Thornton also get away with the mistreatment of her factory workers? Iirc she blames Wade for it, and he goes to jail for the deadly fire that happened.--Her second fire-based crime, I'm now realizing.--Clara has some real internal demons to work through...
Ooh, good point! You're absolutely right!
Clara gave up her rights to the family and let's jessalyn take over the business
I don't think you've done this, but maybe a video about the most iconic quotes from the ND games?
Three of my favorites:
"Do you have a steady back home?"
"Do you Smoke?" "Uh, only when I'm on fire."
"I may have to cut this short, Hal. Someone just climbed out of my wardrobe."
Love your videos! :D
I love these videos. I never thought there was this much to ND games! I love the deep dives! Keep it up Wizard Kitten!
Thank you!! So glad you like them!
Thanks for all of your content. You don’t know how much it means to me.
Thank you so much for the super chat!! It means so much! I'm so glad you enjoy the content!
Headcannon/spoiler barrier
#1, thank you for the fascinating content and sending me down a rabbit hole of questions.
It’s always been a personal headcannon of mine that Dylan didn’t get charged with anything and had all the “show up before anyone knew” things happen to him because he was undercover investigating the black market for either Interpol or the Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities of Egypt. I know there is no evidence of that in the game, but it makes a meh character a bit more interesting.
I was surprised when I did a bit of googling on truancy laws. It turns out in the good old US of A, the age is 16 in most places. So as long as Kim is over 16, it’s not illegal. Is it right, no probably not, but what is interesting is if they are over 16 but under 18, Rachel and Kim’s parents could be charged with neglect of a minor for failing to secure a place for both girls somewhere. (Also my personal headcannon is they had to both complete all classes before being allowed to graduate, but that’s just me.).
It also does not matter if Tino was on duty or not. Planting evidence is still a crime punishable by six months to a year in prison. Tino should absolutely have lost his badge and Nancy could easily face charges for concealment of evidence tampering.
That could be an interesting video, what could Nancy be charged with…
I'm with you on the Kim/Rachel head canon front! The wrap-up said that they were both awarded full scholarships to the school, which makes a lot more sense if they have to repeat their senior year in order to catch up on the many courses they missed by doing Ye Olde Twin Swap.
I wonder what Wade thinks about Clara getting away with what she did, considering that he was put into jail for trying to stop her treating her workers like slaves. I've always wondered about that.
@@traciecook6193 I thought of that too! I would imagine he's extremely displeased, lol
@@WizardKittenYT I agree. I feel that unless what she got was, in Wade's eyes, worse than his prison sentence, he would not be happy.
Yes I’ve wondered the same thing for the twins ! Does Kim just not exist on any kind of record??? If they’re not 18 don’t they legally have to be enrolled in some kind of schooling? It’s bugged me for years…..
@@halliedevich8949 they definitely do! So either they lied and forged some stuff or some county/school employee is really dropping the ball, lol
Okay and what even was their plan if they did graduate? Only one of them was going to get their diploma. And even if they got valedictorian only one would have had the scholarship. So they somehow sneak to college together? Pretty hard to hide a twin in a college dorm with a roommate. Also… them finding the secret room made it odd as well. How did they think they were going to split the Waverly spot before that? Have one of them hide under the bed?
Colin Baxter from Phantom of Venice. I mean he is living under a false identity after his prison time, falsely presenting himself. And he goes against his employment using expensive materials, (though honestly go Colin for sticking it to the man). To add onto that, Margarita paying him much lower than he was worth (is it even minimum wage? We dont know) under the threat of blackmail and destroying any chance he has at a new life.
That's an interesting case, and I think could be an example in a different video - one about ethically grey characters in the Nancy Drew games. Given how hard it is for many people with criminal records to get and keep even the most menial of jobs, one can be empathetic about the desire to start afresh. Colin's use of better quality materials than he agreed to is also a grey area, since he may be going against his employment contract but he's doing better work for the benefit of history and craftsmanship. It's certainly less criminal than charging for top quality materials, buying shoddy supplies, and then pocketing the difference, which is all too common a form of fraud!
Some truly worrying things have been happening recently in this country, so let’s just say I really needed a distraction. Great video as always
Also, like if you hate Topham as much as I do👇
I hear you 🤗 I'm glad the videos can help in their own small way!
I ALWAYS HATE HOW TOPHAM GET AWAY WITH IT!!!! 😠 I also HATE Balducci and Talbot, so.... I don't like them getting away either.
Can I also just say that I hate the Dwayne is no where to be found!!!
Agreed!!
@@emilybarilla7077 also on the Topham hate bandwagon. And Lou just… casually admitting to BLACK MARKET DEALING drives me through the roof
@dragonslayersworkshop8598 literally!!!! He's just like yeah I do it... and I'm like, "yeah and you're going to jail!" And Nan is like... "sure, Em, if that's what you want." Proceeds to do nothing 😶😶
Not a lawyer here, but I believe plagiarizing a large enough portion of someone's work can still be considered a copyright infringement (even if a copyright isn't filed).
My cursory google said no, but I am also not a lawyer and could definitely be wrong, lol
Yess, i love your vids so much!
@@Honeymooncake thank you!! I'm so glad!
I've only played Shattered Medallion once, but didn't Sonny Joon more or less hijack the game show Nancy and her friends were on to pursue treasure, or something? I can't remember if he technically went through legal routes or not, but I feel like he could be up on this list.
Such a good point! I did consider Sonny, but it seemed like the film crew sort of just let it happen? MED is such a difficult one to follow, lol
You're asking the wrong amnesiac.
From an EP attorney: Clara, there is no statute of limitations on homicide. Also, an ultra rich 18 year old having a Will isn't that odd. Leaving everything to your only sibling at 18 instead of your cousin isn't odd. Hding your Will so no one KNOWS this until the estate has closed is infuriating
Right?! I think her only hope is that the whole family stays quiet, which it seems they are...for some reason...
Joy from The Haunted Carousel sabotaged the roller coaster, injuring someone. I know she confessed eventually, but she got a happy ending riding the carousel. I feel like there has to be a crime in sabotage leading to injury.
Everything about Clara's storyline confuses me. Setting a fire would "scare" someone? Into doing WHAT? esp. if it was not know that Clara did it? It just seems psychotic. And someone died, so...
Right?! And Clara is clearly a very intelligent person, which makes me think she's just saying it would "scare" Charlotte as her excuse. Not a very good one, though.
So is that why Nancy is constantly traveling? She is fleeing from her crimes?
Have you ranked her internships? I didn't see it when I looked but could be wrong
I did a video on all the "jobs" Nancy has had besides detective, which included her internships!
I also think that in the option where Nancy doesn’t save Clara at the end of GTH, that's also another way she could get away with the crime. She doesn’t make it out of the house, thus doesn’t have the chance to face legal consequences.
@zrd127 true!
Yo this never really crossed my mind as the suspects who got away with it
i was definetly the most interested in rachel and kims case as it didnt cross my mind that they violated the rules with attending the school in secret
Right?! So interesting!
I really do believe that Topham is responsible for Josiah Crowley's death
@@JoshuaMillhouse I love that theory! I wouldn't be surprised!
Well, Nancy herself belongs on the list for petty theft alone.
Ransom of the Seven Ships has to be considered the only game where Nancy flat out lost. The culprit not only got away, but she handed him the treasure. It would be horrifically bad writing for Nancy to be defeated, then have the culprit conveniently get himself killed, just to make it appear to be a win. That's not to say it couldn't happen, only that it would be terrible writing.
Let's see, didn't some of the suspects in Secrets Can Kill commit crimes? Didn't the Hulk steal steroids? Connie didn't commit a crime but she broke the rules of the Judo competition she was in, and escaped the consequences.
@@GraemeCree ooh, good point about the SCK characters!
And then the selling of military secrets or selling drugs, whichever version you play for Daryl Gray!
I know others have mentioned it, but cheeky charlie and his squatting is definitely illegal. Its illegal to squat in the uk, and qhen i googled it, apparently its illegal in san fransisco too. I know he was discovered buy we dont hear what happened to him. Hes probably still there.... but as nancy is still only 18... its probably only been 2 weeks 😂.
@sophinda6292 lol, that was my reasoning for not including him, since Nancy technically caught him! But the consensus in the comments is definitely that he should've been on the list!
This might be totally wrong, but isn’t Anja lying on her resume in CAP also a crime? I know Nancy calls her out on it especially with the Castle Cast thing, but she was getting away with it until then?
@katiecramer5597 that's a good question! My guess is it's more unethical than illegal since it isn't a legal document, but I'm not sure!
Rachel and Kim aren’t my favorite cup of tea and should have been expelled !
I like the ending of Ransom because it feels a bit scary wondering if Dwayne is still out there or did he perish.
Also, were you the one who said you had a major crush on Tino ? No judgment if so 🕵🏼♀️
@@ryanpepper8188 lmao! 😂 no crush on Tino here!