I just don't think he would have been that powerful to kill ALL the HAND PICKED Temple Guards. A few yes I can believe that but not all. But thank you for the video and I'm a huge fan of your channel. Great work.
@@applepie1911e not really he doesnt fail at all. He freaking mocks them. He was very powerful clearly and only gets beat one time while playing around. He was also very calm and could have simply lured them and killed them one at a time
Well.... he was a temple guard. Why would the other guards be suspect of him. He would've been able to kill them or a few anyways without them suspecting anything
Doesn't necessarily mean that he killed all of them. He could've only killed a few, just enough to let Anakin in without a peep. Also, the Temple Guards hardly fought anyone, there wasn't much that they had to protect the Temple from. So I'm sure the Grand Inquisitor could pick them off relatively quickly.
@@applepie1911e Keep in mind that Cal Kestis too defeated the second most powerful Inquisitor in line (Trilla,) and after only a couple times of dueling with her. The Grand Inquisitor also dueled Kanan about four times before his ultimate demise. Both Cal and Kanan had about an equal amount of training when Order 66 disrupted all of that. So I think it's more like a matter of the will, most of the Inquisitors are broken and tormented former Jedi, they can become weakened in their pride and overconfidence, and when their opponent loses that fear factor. As an example, the Grand Inquisitor didn't think of Kanan as much of a threat, but it wasn't until Kanan let go of his fear and drew upon the power of the Force and got the jump on the Grand Inquisitor. Kanan started using both his and Ezra's sabers and that began to overwhelm the Grand Inquisitor, when he was hitting him from all sides and becoming more confident in his strikes.
The fact Disney continues to overlook details like this allows you to pick up the slack and run with it. I noticed it right away, and I'm glad you did this video. There is really a lot more Disney can do to explain this oversight. you have done a pretty good job of doing it yourself. Great video.
A massive part of good story telling is to allow the viewer to piece the story together and fill in the gaps in their own way a way they find satisfying I highly doubt they people like Dave filloni overlooked this when finishing the clone wars
maybe this is what was next to come in the final episode they already said it was going to be about vader so that could easily tie back to order 66 & the grand inquisitor
If the Grand Inquisitor did kill the other guards before Vader’s arrival, that means he knew when Vader would arrive which means he either met Vader or Sidious beforehand and it was all planned in coordination. If that’s the case, how did he find out that they were Sith or how did Sidious or Vader turn him? Did Sidious sense the doubt I’m his heart because he met him at Barriss’ trial and then begin to turn him?
What if before order 66 was officially ordered, GI freed Barris and together, sensing the coming attack, they escaped the order together killing any Jedi between them and their exit
i say it's just a coincedence that all this happened before operation nightfall (order 66) and then not long after vader leaving the temple he could sence the ex temple guards presence then the ex temple gaurd becomes the grand inquisitor
I often wonder whether the point of that storyline was to show that she was actually a really good Jedi like Qui Gon who was so wedded to the beliefs of the order and couldn't watch what it had become - so I'd imagine we might see her again doing the opposite of what you predict perhaps she'll be helping Ahsoka She definitely didn't turn to the dark side in the same way as like Pong Krell etc
@@alexohare6101 I don't think she'll help Ashoka at least not alot because I think there's just too much of a rift there, but I do agree I don't think she falls to the dark side
I don’t think it’s likely or plausible that the Grand Inquisitor killed all the Temple Guards, especially before Order 66. Unless he was somehow Vader, I doubt he could kill all of his brethren by himself. I also believe that an attack like that couldn’t go unnoticed by any Star Wars media. You’d think that the death of almost all the Temple Guards would warrant at least a comic about it.
@@DeCavalcante It's more that the Temple was supposed to be a place of training and rest for the Jedi as a whole. While the Jedi were capable of defending themselves, the Temple Guards were meant to be the first line of defense, giving the rest of the Jedi time to gather their wits and react as necessary. With the Temple Guards gone, the Jedi within the Temple didn't have those precious minutes to realize they were under attack until the clone were knocking on their doors. Not to mention that with the amount of younglings and civilians within the Temple at any given time, the Jedi themselves would likely default to protecting them while the Temple Guards focused on containing and dealing with the threat. We see this more or less in Anakin's duel with Bariss where the guards stop Bariss from fleeing further into the Temple and while Anakin duels Bariss in the courtyard, the Master there (the one with the white lightsaber) stays between the fight and the younglings he was training with his lightsaber drawn. Besides, the rest of the Jedi had many duties and roles beyond defending the Temple, so having Guards dedicated to that frees up the rest of the Jedi to do whatever it is that they're supposed to be doing.
@@bronztrooper9440 and no one noticed they were gone. There's a lot of plot holes in star wars and they're constantly making these little back stories to cover for it.
I think the Temple Guards were spread out on the outside of the temple by Cin Drallig when the jedi sensed the "disturbance in the force" which is why we don't see them. I think the Grand Inquisitor might have taken out the ones stationed at the temple entrance though.
Interesting as always. It makes a lot of sense that the grand Inquisitor killed all the temple guards before order 66. Speaking of the inquisitors, could you possibly do a video if you haven’t already done one on the light Sabres and why they were given those particular types and how they were trained with them and their uses please?
Blue were defenders warriors green were knowledge seekers and more abt studying the force and yellow was a mix of those two purple mace windu channeled a little bit of the dark side so his lightsaber was purple
What I saw somewhere wss that, if you look into it, the Inquisitors are weaker Mauls, who went from an assassin to a whole problem because of how powerful he was, so giving them items and technology that could work in the same way but wouldn't allow them to reach that level of potential was a way of making sure they wouldn't become a problem
I just ran with the "They were the first ones to fall" Because I believe that the temple guards (My favourite characters) had the motto of "no retreating" and just straight up rushed forward and killed five billions of 501st clone troopers. (Impossible, yes) but hey, it makes me happy thinking about it that way. Btw the main reason why this is absolutely impossible, is because we see in the movie and in the games, that the jedis in the temple are surprised when attacked. Meaning the temple guards either was not there OR that they have the most soundproof walls in the whole galaxy.
That would've been a horrible backup plan tbh. If the two strongest inquisitors (Grand Inquisitor and Trilla) got beat by padawans with jedi knight level training, then that means that the Grand Inquisitor would only be around mid jedi knight level. He wouldn't be able to kill half of the jedi there, much less jedi masters present like Cin Drallig and Minas Velti(jedi master who died in a Kenobi E1 flashback). Let's not forget that Anakin would've been in the temple. Grand Inquisitor would've gotten killed and the plan go to shit.
ifu played the game or read the freaking book they had green lightsabers dual and they were there and got there ass handed -__- look at the statue he destroyed and why he did it
The theory I wouldve written was that the Grand Inquisitor was able to kill 2 or 3 of the guards then the others were able to stop him and he retreats. Since one of their sacred brothers has now fallen, they must DISBAND as a unit in order to protect the remnants of the light side they have. (That should be a a rule. If one of the guards goes rouge, the rest have to go into hiding in order to protect the knowledge)
Good what if episode, what if the grand Inquisitor failed to kill the temple guards and they were still around the jedi temple for order 66? Perhaps before they would be killed by anakin they would be able to save a few more jedi that escape?
Because one of the best stabbed them in the back. They should have seen it coming, but everyone was surprised when Anakin betrayed them and he was as obvious as it got the more the Clone War went on, so a Temple Guard turning traitor would probably seem that much further from out of left field to them, since they're supposed to be "the most committed" members of the order.
Would you consider doing a video about all of the Jedi that Vader killed with lightsabers other than his own? He seems to have been rather resourceful.
Honestly before Rebels my friends and I all thought that Vader killed them first or sent a group of clones to take them out first before he attacked the Temple.
I still don't like how easily Reva had it with him. I thought he'd see that coming for sure and put her down but he moved like a robot as well. When the grand inquisitor is an acrobat and skilled in multiple lightsaber techniques he's extremely perceptive I just don't think he'd get caught off guard like that unless he too was so blinded by finding Kenobi but I still don't believe that.
@@cherm722 yea I know that I really didn't like it still so he did that rather than strike her down then and maybe got Kenobi right then he had to of know how close he was. I fully expected Kenobi to duel the grand Inquisitor that episode.
There are way too many holes in this. I love the grand Inquisitor. What to think one man killed Sentinels. Who in the past would hunt down and eat dark siders for breakfast. Even if he killed three or four at a time. The other Jedi would have realized this. Plus why didn't Vader remember him when they 1st met? Plus the clones never told that they might have have a ally. I would like to see how he did so.
Temple guards didn't hunt seth though, they guarded the temple from them, Jedi Sentinels was the ones that hunted the Sith. Both had beautiful yellow sabers but one was like a spike and one was the whole blade.
Wooow I did NOT know that about the grand inquisitor! That's crazy! Dude you're blowing my mind with some of this stuff bro. I'm fascinated by how the stories of all these characters just connect so well with the story around them
The apparent speed and ease that the Jedi temple fell is one of the most glaring fumbles in all of Star Wars. There really should have been only two options just from a purely tactic/logic point of view. Either there should have been an emergency evacuation plan, in which all of the younglings and 90% of the personnel in the temple get out. Or a VERY long, bloody and difficult battle with MASSIVE casualties on both sides, but especially among the Empire. No explanation can get around that gapping mismatch.
A lot of the jedi's at the temple weren't soldiers or warriors, younglings and acolytes and older Jedi. All the Jedi knights and masters were fighting the war. The greatest fighters were Generals and we know how that went. MTFBWY.
@@SK4M_Freal Agree. Not all Jedi are Masters, and not all Jedi are even skilled Knights. So though they maybe Jedi, a lot there are probably Younglings & Padawans deep in study, or just lower ranked Jedi that aren't as skilled in fighting (like teachers).
This I still can’t figure out: correctly seeing the Republic (Palpatine) driven Jedi as exacerbating the issues of the war and in turn deciding that killing innocent people and turning to the dark side to do exactly what they were complaining about the Jedi doing unwittingly makes more sense.
Grand Inquisitor: The Jedi are a threat to the safety of the galaxy and are doing awful things. Also the Grand Inquisitor: The Jedi always do the right thing LOL so easy to manipulate
Maybe the actor that played the role of the grand Inquisitor in Kenobi was the best one and was deserving of it but I really don't like the way they made him look. Same with the 5th brother. They don't look intimidating they just look Goofy. Maybe they went overboard with the prosthetics and makeup! The grand Inquisitor had a skinny face with boney cheeks. I don't know I think they just could have done a better job but if he was better get acting then the rest of the people auditioning that is a small sacrifice to make.
Most likely him and Palps knew about his business and didn’t see him as a threat to them, perhaps a threat to the Grand Inquisitors in combat & strength in Sith’s abilities
When I looked up which Jedi had the yellow lightsabers there was only two types of Jedi that could carry yellow lightsabers Temple guards and Jedi Sentinels Temple guards had hidden identities and dual bladed yellow lightsaber sticks Sentinels had full blade lightsabers and we're usually single blade Temple guards were basically security and Sentinels was the cops that hunted down Jedi that turned on them and Sith Lords. Both of which is main job was to stay in the background unless needed.
Even the best warriors would eventually be overwhelmed by a large force. If the entire 501st Legion accompanied Vader, then yes, even the Temple Guards would have been overwhelmed, especially if they are completed surrounded.
Imagine in a Plot Twist if it was Senator Bail Organa the secretly had the Jedi Temple Guards work for him and go into hiding, only emerging when he or the Rebellion under attack from Vader and the Inquisitors.
It's really simple... stop theorising about it. The Jedi Temple Guards were NOT in the prequel trilogy hence they were NOT there during order 66. It really is that simple.
I love almost everything about the story of the fall and rise of the empire but seriously. Even Anakin if we're honest was not good enough to fight all of the temple guards especially given what the whole fucking point of the sentinel Jedi was, let alone the grand inquisitor.
Even if he doesn't kill everyone, Vader would for sure. That's most powerful Vader, he lost a lot of his powers when he started to use his suit, and we know that Palpatine purposely weakened Vader just because to stop him right away to challenge him for the power/emperor, his suit presented big limitations for Vader. Someone would say that Vader got stronger in the force, oh well he obviously didn't watch clone wars and the episodes when he founded light and dark representatives of the both force sides, he was stronger than both of them. From that day she (light side of the force in the pure form) when being killed by her own brother and Anakin was possessed by the dark side already, then when she saved the life of Asoka - light side was in the Asoka forever - that's why she was purefies the crystals so fast to see her blades pure white, we all know that the crystals are taking up color from their owners. Anyway my point is that Anakin/Vader was the strongest and there's a possibility that that the Vader already defeated them before entering the temple.
Also got to keep in mind it’s unrealistic he killed all of them because thier are hundreds of different Jedi temples that had them however the Jedi temple we think of was essentially thier main headquarters where most Jedi were stationed so it had the most guards
How can the grand inquisitor have been vaders inside man if when they met in the jedi library they fought, until vader revealed he was just testing his armor and then owned him. But they had no idea who the other was yet.. it was in vaders marvel comic series.
I always thought Anakin/Vader just killed them all as he marched into the temple, as we don't see much of him while he's there, other than killing the younglings.
I'm kinda iffy on this. Because Anakin shows up when 66 is actived. Which means he and the 501st either A) killed a good amount of the Temple Guards. Or B) captured them to turn them in the Inquisitors and to the Dark Side. But we only really have information about the Grand Inquisitor who was in fact a temple guard who was tortured and turned to the dark side and charged with leading and hunting other Jedi and Force Sensitive individuals (due to Kenobi and Rebels).
The theory I wouldve written was that the Grand Inquisitor was able to kill 2 or 3 of the guards then the others were able to stop him and he retreats. Since one of their sacred brothers has now fallen, they must DISBAND as a unit in order to protect the remnants of the light side they have. (That should be a a rule. If one of the guards goes rouge, the rest have to go into hiding in order to protect the knowledge)
The flash back fight between the grand inquisitor and I can’t remember his name doesn’t make since considering he was a padawan when order 66 took place
i don't think it needs a deep conspiracy to explain their sudden disappearance. I also don't think there was any time for the future grand inquisitor to coordinate any such internal attack with Vader, who had literally just turned to the dark side and was immediately given the order to march on the temple. I would assume the temple guards were simply the first to be gunned down. By the time we see the clones deep in the temple interior, they have already come past the entrances where the guards would be stationed. It wasn't shown on screen, but against that many troopers, thy would likely have just been overwhelmed, especially as they would initially have not seen the clones as enemies until the shooting started.
Vader and the Inquisitorius didn't meet until after the Galactic Empire was established. Thus Vader and the Grand Inquisitor had no sort of connections. Thus it the chancellor manipulating everything
I find it hard to believe that the Grand Inquisitor could have killed every single Jedi Temple Guard when he lost to Kannan Jarrus in single combat. Edit considering how big the Jedi Temple is there must have been dozens of Temple Guardsmen and only somebody like Yoda, Palpatine, Mace Windu and pre-suit Vader could pull that off.
I feel this is why I'd either be a darkside user or a Grey jedi in a sense. I could never really respect the jedi order of the republic. With the more I learn the more I begin to almost despise it. They were blind, arrogant, and corrupt. Too blind to see that true balance of the force is to favor all its aspects. But they decided that one side was purely unusable. Mace Windu was truly the only jedi who even remotely understood that there should be a balance. While qui Gon, knew about it all. The corruption, the blinded order. It's sad he never got the chance to let his ideal out. I'd simply would rather be a force user who uses all its power instead of focusing on one over the other. If you focus on only one, regardless of which one you pick you'd be weaker. You would never reach your max potential. With true balance is only when you have the most strength and knowledge. Unfortunately with Disney in the ropes I doubt we'll truly see any really balance orders. Ahsoka in my opinion is the best example of balance. Luke still grasped certain parts of the old order. Which I feel caused kylos fall.
It's interesting to view the dark side as not being evil and the light side as that of evil. Both sides view the other form a point of view. So what is evil if not forcing g one's will on others, being oppressive to all as one rules over all. "It my way or nothing...." As said, dealing with absolute. The dark side can never be the way.
Id its true that The Grand Inquisitor opened the doors for Vader and the 501st to the jedi temple .Surely he would of seen Anakin/Vader and therefore know the identity of Vader?
Vader couldn't beat Obi Wan, much less have the stamina to defeat so many Jedi and their Masters. His power was still juvenile versus the stone cold and hardened Vader we see now.
ngl i really need to know if it's true/canon the grand killed them because i believe i heard that all the guards were left for Vader and for no trooper to deal with them for how tough they were during operation knight fall and i also believe that if this did happen grand must of know of Vader before knight fall to do this and in the Vader comics which are canon grand and Vader fought after the whole new Empire not knowing who is who until The Emperor told him right after their fight that they are allies and this is when Vader found out about the inquisitors so in my view I'm just going to take this as your opinion/theory about what could of happen
Ya know as Secretive as they guys where in honestly don’t think there all dead I wouldn’t be to surprised if there where more than a dozen Temples still out there with these guys still protecting them and the Empire being none the wiser
In my star wars their was 1 jedi temple grard is still alive and he is hiding in the unknown region with special holocron that he save.by orders of grand master....
Now... Im fairly sure of the obvious, inevitable outcome either way... BUT had all or nearly all the Temple Guards NOT been killed and was ready to aid in fighting the 501st would the Jedi have had any real chance of making a serious difference?? Since there'd only been more Jedi to fight an gun down OR would somehow they'd beaten off the Clone Forces... Which honestly, makes no sense for the Jedi seeing as millions of angry clones can come in from all directions to back them up if such a scenario had ever happened
@@jameshyde022 lol yeah, that's sounding, about right... ESPECIALLY seeing as 1 old Venerator SD or air strike, or sma set of arty cannons could stand back an pound them from a distance while riot guards move in to back them up would be my guess in such an instance...it's what is do if it was me an my orders was to take care of them
Ok so at some point everyone is going to have to realize that obi was the sith lord the whole time security training the child to become darth vader. Consider that then everything else makes more sense
This, and Order 66, sound like hand-wavy bullshit to me. No military operation has the success rate across such a wide variety of engagements that Order 66 had. The idea that a single skilled Jedi could kill all his numerous peers so successful is preposterous. Many Jedi would have survived, and the Temple Guard would have been disciplined enough to notice their attacker before complete destruction. All these Jedi and Temple Guard were the best of the best. But All of them were completely defeated? It sounds like the opposite of plot-armor. I'll call it plot-lethality.
I haven't ever seen more than 5 at a time.he could have killed them in pairs. They wouldn't be expecting what amounts to their commander killing them. They may even have been unarmed. As for the Jedi in the temple, Vader was worth any 5 of them and you had the 501st. if the Jedi sought only to flee I could see more living, but they wouldn't have abandoned their brethren.
@@jameshyde022 I could see the Temple Guards being killed if there were only 5. But I was under the impression there was closer to 75 to 100. The Jedi temple is huge. I'm skeptical that 5 guards would be their total. But I can't say for sure. As far as actual Jedi in the temple, I assumed there was closer to 1000, but that's also a guess.
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I just don't think he would have been that powerful to kill ALL the HAND PICKED Temple Guards. A few yes I can believe that but not all. But thank you for the video and I'm a huge fan of your channel. Great work.
@@applepie1911e not really he doesnt fail at all. He freaking mocks them. He was very powerful clearly and only gets beat one time while playing around. He was also very calm and could have simply lured them and killed them one at a time
Well.... he was a temple guard. Why would the other guards be suspect of him. He would've been able to kill them or a few anyways without them suspecting anything
Doesn't necessarily mean that he killed all of them. He could've only killed a few, just enough to let Anakin in without a peep. Also, the Temple Guards hardly fought anyone, there wasn't much that they had to protect the Temple from. So I'm sure the Grand Inquisitor could pick them off relatively quickly.
He doesnt have to be able to kill all them at once. Might have just picked them off on at a time
@@applepie1911e Keep in mind that Cal Kestis too defeated the second most powerful Inquisitor in line (Trilla,) and after only a couple times of dueling with her. The Grand Inquisitor also dueled Kanan about four times before his ultimate demise. Both Cal and Kanan had about an equal amount of training when Order 66 disrupted all of that. So I think it's more like a matter of the will, most of the Inquisitors are broken and tormented former Jedi, they can become weakened in their pride and overconfidence, and when their opponent loses that fear factor.
As an example, the Grand Inquisitor didn't think of Kanan as much of a threat, but it wasn't until Kanan let go of his fear and drew upon the power of the Force and got the jump on the Grand Inquisitor. Kanan started using both his and Ezra's sabers and that began to overwhelm the Grand Inquisitor, when he was hitting him from all sides and becoming more confident in his strikes.
The fact Disney continues to overlook details like this allows you to pick up the slack and run with it. I noticed it right away, and I'm glad you did this video. There is really a lot more Disney can do to explain this oversight. you have done a pretty good job of doing it yourself. Great video.
A massive part of good story telling is to allow the viewer to piece the story together and fill in the gaps in their own way a way they find satisfying I highly doubt they people like Dave filloni overlooked this when finishing the clone wars
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dont worry..George lucas left these gaps on purpose to have series or movies to fill in
I’m not sure this is a Disney overlook. We never saw them in any of the Lucas order 66 stuff either
maybe this is what was next to come in the final episode they already said it was going to be about vader so that could easily tie back to order 66 & the grand inquisitor
If the Grand Inquisitor did kill the other guards before Vader’s arrival, that means he knew when Vader would arrive which means he either met Vader or Sidious beforehand and it was all planned in coordination. If that’s the case, how did he find out that they were Sith or how did Sidious or Vader turn him? Did Sidious sense the doubt I’m his heart because he met him at Barriss’ trial and then begin to turn him?
What if before order 66 was officially ordered, GI freed Barris and together, sensing the coming attack, they escaped the order together killing any Jedi between them and their exit
i say it's just a coincedence that all this happened before operation nightfall (order 66) and then not long after vader leaving the temple he could sence the ex temple guards presence then the ex temple gaurd becomes the grand inquisitor
He lost his faith during the ashoka trial
He met with sidious before, in the comics it shows this, and Sidious had plans for the inquisitors beforehand. Vader had no clue who the TGI was.
I think Barriss offee would have made a good inquisitor. Would have been an interesting foil for Ahsoka later.
Didn’t everyone originally believe she was the 7th Sister when they first appeared?
I often wonder whether the point of that storyline was to show that she was actually a really good Jedi like Qui Gon who was so wedded to the beliefs of the order and couldn't watch what it had become - so I'd imagine we might see her again doing the opposite of what you predict perhaps she'll be helping Ahsoka
She definitely didn't turn to the dark side in the same way as like Pong Krell etc
@@alexohare6101 I don't think she'll help Ashoka at least not alot because I think there's just too much of a rift there, but I do agree I don't think she falls to the dark side
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she is the 7th sister in canon
I don’t think it’s likely or plausible that the Grand Inquisitor killed all the Temple Guards, especially before Order 66. Unless he was somehow Vader, I doubt he could kill all of his brethren by himself. I also believe that an attack like that couldn’t go unnoticed by any Star Wars media. You’d think that the death of almost all the Temple Guards would warrant at least a comic about it.
Always liked the design of the Jedi temple guards. And their light sabers as well. Hopefully I can cosplay as one soon
Uhhhhhhhh……. As you were soldier.
Nerd!
@@SOLIDSNAKE. if a nerd means I’ll have that celestial drip then I’m down🗿🤌
@@Zero_Twice_00 me too hands down full on drip
@@Zero_Twice_00 lol I was just fooling about.. *Zero_Twice00* "I wasn't"
The Jedi temple guards are so freaking cool and beautiful
Wtf
Yes but inkompetent
I thought they were pointless. Protectors of protectors who couldn't protect.
@@DeCavalcante It's more that the Temple was supposed to be a place of training and rest for the Jedi as a whole. While the Jedi were capable of defending themselves, the Temple Guards were meant to be the first line of defense, giving the rest of the Jedi time to gather their wits and react as necessary. With the Temple Guards gone, the Jedi within the Temple didn't have those precious minutes to realize they were under attack until the clone were knocking on their doors.
Not to mention that with the amount of younglings and civilians within the Temple at any given time, the Jedi themselves would likely default to protecting them while the Temple Guards focused on containing and dealing with the threat. We see this more or less in Anakin's duel with Bariss where the guards stop Bariss from fleeing further into the Temple and while Anakin duels Bariss in the courtyard, the Master there (the one with the white lightsaber) stays between the fight and the younglings he was training with his lightsaber drawn.
Besides, the rest of the Jedi had many duties and roles beyond defending the Temple, so having Guards dedicated to that frees up the rest of the Jedi to do whatever it is that they're supposed to be doing.
@@bronztrooper9440 and no one noticed they were gone. There's a lot of plot holes in star wars and they're constantly making these little back stories to cover for it.
I think the Temple Guards were spread out on the outside of the temple by Cin Drallig when the jedi sensed the "disturbance in the force" which is why we don't see them. I think the Grand Inquisitor might have taken out the ones stationed at the temple entrance though.
Interesting as always. It makes a lot of sense that the grand Inquisitor killed all the temple guards before order 66. Speaking of the inquisitors, could you possibly do a video if you haven’t already done one on the light Sabres and why they were given those particular types and how they were trained with them and their uses please?
Blue were defenders warriors green were knowledge seekers and more abt studying the force and yellow was a mix of those two purple mace windu channeled a little bit of the dark side so his lightsaber was purple
@@bra11don he didn't mean colours. he meant the double sided rotating lightsabres
What I saw somewhere wss that, if you look into it, the Inquisitors are weaker Mauls, who went from an assassin to a whole problem because of how powerful he was, so giving them items and technology that could work in the same way but wouldn't allow them to reach that level of potential was a way of making sure they wouldn't become a problem
@@bra11don he didnt channel the dark side he used his opponents aggression and anger against them very common misconception
Amazing video of the grand inquisitor that kill the Jedi temple guards before order 66,fantastic job.
I just ran with the "They were the first ones to fall"
Because I believe that the temple guards (My favourite characters) had the motto of "no retreating" and just straight up rushed forward and killed five billions of 501st clone troopers. (Impossible, yes) but hey, it makes me happy thinking about it that way.
Btw the main reason why this is absolutely impossible, is because we see in the movie and in the games, that the jedis in the temple are surprised when attacked.
Meaning the temple guards either was not there OR that they have the most soundproof walls in the whole galaxy.
The grand Inquisitor was the backup plan in case Anakin fell
That would've been a horrible backup plan tbh. If the two strongest inquisitors (Grand Inquisitor and Trilla) got beat by padawans with jedi knight level training, then that means that the Grand Inquisitor would only be around mid jedi knight level. He wouldn't be able to kill half of the jedi there, much less jedi masters present like Cin Drallig and Minas Velti(jedi master who died in a Kenobi E1 flashback). Let's not forget that Anakin would've been in the temple. Grand Inquisitor would've gotten killed and the plan go to shit.
True I always found it odd they were so mysteriously absent
ifu played the game or read the freaking book they had green lightsabers dual and they were there and got there ass handed -__- look at the statue he destroyed and why he did it
The theory I wouldve written was that the Grand Inquisitor was able to kill 2 or 3 of the guards then the others were able to stop him and he retreats. Since one of their sacred brothers has now fallen, they must DISBAND as a unit in order to protect the remnants of the light side they have. (That should be a a rule. If one of the guards goes rouge, the rest have to go into hiding in order to protect the knowledge)
Good what if episode, what if the grand Inquisitor failed to kill the temple guards and they were still around the jedi temple for order 66? Perhaps before they would be killed by anakin they would be able to save a few more jedi that escape?
They would have held Vader up an extra 30 seconds.
@@jameshyde022 lol yeah you are right 😆 harsh reality check right there 🤣
The Jedi Temple guards had yellow lightsabers that Palpatine feared so why were they killed easily
Because one of the best stabbed them in the back. They should have seen it coming, but everyone was surprised when Anakin betrayed them and he was as obvious as it got the more the Clone War went on, so a Temple Guard turning traitor would probably seem that much further from out of left field to them, since they're supposed to be "the most committed" members of the order.
Poor writing.
Because they were mere jedi .
Because if you aren’t a skywalker or blood related you don’t matter much once the hit the clone wars smh
Becsuse Vader was coming the halls. You saw how easily he fought off cin drallig
Would you consider doing a video about all of the Jedi that Vader killed with lightsabers other than his own? He seems to have been rather resourceful.
I have a strange suspicion they might have been guarding a temple
Props to you for yet again trying to explain away a glaring continuity issue 👏
Honestly before Rebels my friends and I all thought that Vader killed them first or sent a group of clones to take them out first before he attacked the Temple.
I still don't like how easily Reva had it with him. I thought he'd see that coming for sure and put her down but he moved like a robot as well. When the grand inquisitor is an acrobat and skilled in multiple lightsaber techniques he's extremely perceptive I just don't think he'd get caught off guard like that unless he too was so blinded by finding Kenobi but I still don't believe that.
It was his plan if you watch the 5th episode. It’s also a way to make Reva look stronger.
@@cherm722 yea I know that I really didn't like it still so he did that rather than strike her down then and maybe got Kenobi right then he had to of know how close he was. I fully expected Kenobi to duel the grand Inquisitor that episode.
Those double bladed yellow lightsabers go hard
well. That's one way to fix a plot hole about temple guards not existing before the making of the clone wars show.
The GI's monologue in the cantina reminded my of Monty Python's Spanish inquisition scene
There are way too many holes in this. I love the grand Inquisitor. What to think one man killed Sentinels. Who in the past would hunt down and eat dark siders for breakfast. Even if he killed three or four at a time. The other Jedi would have realized this. Plus why didn't Vader remember him when they 1st met? Plus the clones never told that they might have have a ally. I would like to see how he did so.
Temple guards didn't hunt seth though, they guarded the temple from them, Jedi Sentinels was the ones that hunted the Sith. Both had beautiful yellow sabers but one was like a spike and one was the whole blade.
How did he kill the Temple Guards though? There’s no way he took them all at once in a straight up fight, what did he do to end them all?
One at a time, it would be like your best friend sucker punching you in the back of the head without suspecting it.
@@theflyer68 it would have to be one at a time,Yoda or WINDU would of sensed it otherwise
Probably killed most of them in their sleep
@@IAmTheSenate_66 how could they sense it when it happened right b4 Vader & the 501st got to the temple during order 66.. It’s too much going on..
poisoned their lunch? :P
Wooow I did NOT know that about the grand inquisitor! That's crazy! Dude you're blowing my mind with some of this stuff bro. I'm fascinated by how the stories of all these characters just connect so well with the story around them
The apparent speed and ease that the Jedi temple fell is one of the most glaring fumbles in all of Star Wars. There really should have been only two options just from a purely tactic/logic point of view. Either there should have been an emergency evacuation plan, in which all of the younglings and 90% of the personnel in the temple get out. Or a VERY long, bloody and difficult battle with MASSIVE casualties on both sides, but especially among the Empire. No explanation can get around that gapping mismatch.
A lot of the jedi's at the temple weren't soldiers or warriors, younglings and acolytes and older Jedi. All the Jedi knights and masters were fighting the war. The greatest fighters were Generals and we know how that went. MTFBWY.
@@SK4M_Freal Agree. Not all Jedi are Masters, and not all Jedi are even skilled Knights. So though they maybe Jedi, a lot there are probably Younglings & Padawans deep in study, or just lower ranked Jedi that aren't as skilled in fighting (like teachers).
Not getting those records from the library was like not getting into art school.
Love your content as a huge star wars fan
4:28 His chair clunks while recording the voiceover, I though my chair had done it and then I went back and heard it on the recording XD
This I still can’t figure out: correctly seeing the Republic (Palpatine) driven Jedi as exacerbating the issues of the war and in turn deciding that killing innocent people and turning to the dark side to do exactly what they were complaining about the Jedi doing unwittingly makes more sense.
Grand Inquisitor: The Jedi are a threat to the safety of the galaxy and are doing awful things.
Also the Grand Inquisitor: The Jedi always do the right thing LOL so easy to manipulate
I have been absolutely destroying your content here lately bro! Thanks!
Temple guards were OP
Maybe the actor that played the role of the grand Inquisitor in Kenobi was the best one and was deserving of it but I really don't like the way they made him look. Same with the 5th brother. They don't look intimidating they just look Goofy. Maybe they went overboard with the prosthetics and makeup! The grand Inquisitor had a skinny face with boney cheeks. I don't know I think they just could have done a better job but if he was better get acting then the rest of the people auditioning that is a small sacrifice to make.
You should just be happy disney didn't make him a Lesbian, Transgender male.
I would love to see it on the screen representation of at least a few palace guards putting up a fight.
I would love to see the temple guards in a tv show.
it was like this to me before you expanied it. youngling: help us temple guards the clones are going rouge. temple guards: sorry we're on lunch
Did Vader have knowledge of darth maul running crimson dawn? And if so did he know his past and consider him a threat or equal in the dark side?
Most likely him and Palps knew about his business and didn’t see him as a threat to them, perhaps a threat to the Grand Inquisitors in combat & strength in Sith’s abilities
Great video mate.
now that is note worthy flash back in live action
When I looked up which Jedi had the yellow lightsabers there was only two types of Jedi that could carry yellow lightsabers Temple guards and Jedi Sentinels Temple guards had hidden identities and dual bladed yellow lightsaber sticks Sentinels had full blade lightsabers and we're usually single blade Temple guards were basically security and Sentinels was the cops that hunted down Jedi that turned on them and Sith Lords. Both of which is main job was to stay in the background unless needed.
lmao at the idea that the dude more on Kanan's level killed all of them himself
When was the first time the grand inquisitor spoke to Sidius?
I like the design of the Jedi Temple Guards.
Even the best warriors would eventually be overwhelmed by a large force. If the entire 501st Legion accompanied Vader, then yes, even the Temple Guards would have been overwhelmed, especially if they are completed surrounded.
Can anyone do some information videos on Jedi Sentinels plus the differences between Sentinels and Temple guards?
Imagine in a Plot Twist if it was Senator Bail Organa the secretly had the Jedi Temple Guards work for him and go into hiding, only emerging when he or the Rebellion under attack from Vader and the Inquisitors.
Lol Inquisitor? What is he gonna do, question me to death? laaaaame...
But wait what is the name of the background music that’s playing at the end there that’s my biggest question lollll
Thanks for the video bro
It's really simple... stop theorising about it. The Jedi Temple Guards were NOT in the prequel trilogy hence they were NOT there during order 66. It really is that simple.
Always wanted to know this. Sentinels are my favorite Star Wars characters besides Talon Kaarde
I love almost everything about the story of the fall and rise of the empire but seriously. Even Anakin if we're honest was not good enough to fight all of the temple guards especially given what the whole fucking point of the sentinel Jedi was, let alone the grand inquisitor.
Even if he doesn't kill everyone, Vader would for sure. That's most powerful Vader, he lost a lot of his powers when he started to use his suit, and we know that Palpatine purposely weakened Vader just because to stop him right away to challenge him for the power/emperor, his suit presented big limitations for Vader. Someone would say that Vader got stronger in the force, oh well he obviously didn't watch clone wars and the episodes when he founded light and dark representatives of the both force sides, he was stronger than both of them. From that day she (light side of the force in the pure form) when being killed by her own brother and Anakin was possessed by the dark side already, then when she saved the life of Asoka - light side was in the Asoka forever - that's why she was purefies the crystals so fast to see her blades pure white, we all know that the crystals are taking up color from their owners.
Anyway my point is that Anakin/Vader was the strongest and there's a possibility that that the Vader already defeated them before entering the temple.
Also got to keep in mind it’s unrealistic he killed all of them because thier are hundreds of different Jedi temples that had them however the Jedi temple we think of was essentially thier main headquarters where most Jedi were stationed so it had the most guards
How can the grand inquisitor have been vaders inside man if when they met in the jedi library they fought, until vader revealed he was just testing his armor and then owned him. But they had no idea who the other was yet.. it was in vaders marvel comic series.
I always thought Anakin/Vader just killed them all as he marched into the temple, as we don't see much of him while he's there, other than killing the younglings.
This all makes sense
5:09 “Jedi Dogma”
I'm kinda iffy on this. Because Anakin shows up when 66 is actived. Which means he and the 501st either A) killed a good amount of the Temple Guards. Or B) captured them to turn them in the Inquisitors and to the Dark Side.
But we only really have information about the Grand Inquisitor who was in fact a temple guard who was tortured and turned to the dark side and charged with leading and hunting other Jedi and Force Sensitive individuals (due to Kenobi and Rebels).
The theory I wouldve written was that the Grand Inquisitor was able to kill 2 or 3 of the guards then the others were able to stop him and he retreats. Since one of their sacred brothers has now fallen, they must DISBAND as a unit in order to protect the remnants of the light side they have. (That should be a a rule. If one of the guards goes rouge, the rest have to go into hiding in order to protect the knowledge)
@@thaiylooze8217 I like theory better than “the grand inquisitor killed the others”
The live action Grand Inquisitor looks like Quan Chi from Mortal Kombat 😅
The flash back fight between the grand inquisitor and I can’t remember his name doesn’t make since considering he was a padawan when order 66 took place
It’s not a flashback
i don't think it needs a deep conspiracy to explain their sudden disappearance. I also don't think there was any time for the future grand inquisitor to coordinate any such internal attack with Vader, who had literally just turned to the dark side and was immediately given the order to march on the temple.
I would assume the temple guards were simply the first to be gunned down. By the time we see the clones deep in the temple interior, they have already come past the entrances where the guards would be stationed. It wasn't shown on screen, but against that many troopers, thy would likely have just been overwhelmed, especially as they would initially have not seen the clones as enemies until the shooting started.
Vader and the Inquisitorius didn't meet until after the Galactic Empire was established. Thus Vader and the Grand Inquisitor had no sort of connections. Thus it the chancellor manipulating everything
Its shown in the comic
I find it hard to believe that the Grand Inquisitor could have killed every single Jedi Temple Guard when he lost to Kannan Jarrus in single combat.
Edit considering how big the Jedi Temple is there must have been dozens of Temple Guardsmen and only somebody like Yoda, Palpatine, Mace Windu and pre-suit Vader could pull that off.
Fr he’s weak as piss
This is a great vid
Cool vid
Deep!
I feel this is why I'd either be a darkside user or a Grey jedi in a sense. I could never really respect the jedi order of the republic. With the more I learn the more I begin to almost despise it. They were blind, arrogant, and corrupt. Too blind to see that true balance of the force is to favor all its aspects. But they decided that one side was purely unusable. Mace Windu was truly the only jedi who even remotely understood that there should be a balance. While qui Gon, knew about it all. The corruption, the blinded order. It's sad he never got the chance to let his ideal out. I'd simply would rather be a force user who uses all its power instead of focusing on one over the other. If you focus on only one, regardless of which one you pick you'd be weaker. You would never reach your max potential. With true balance is only when you have the most strength and knowledge. Unfortunately with Disney in the ropes I doubt we'll truly see any really balance orders. Ahsoka in my opinion is the best example of balance. Luke still grasped certain parts of the old order. Which I feel caused kylos fall.
the light side in its true form is balance of the force. The dark side is imbalance and corruption
Expecting to be able to buy some Star Wars Merch from the 1st of January 2023!
It's interesting to view the dark side as not being evil and the light side as that of evil.
Both sides view the other form a point of view.
So what is evil if not forcing g one's will on others, being oppressive to all as one rules over all.
"It my way or nothing...."
As said, dealing with absolute.
The dark side can never be the way.
The simple answer is temple guards didn’t exist during revenge of the sith
Id its true that The Grand Inquisitor opened the doors for Vader and the 501st to the jedi temple .Surely he would of seen Anakin/Vader and therefore know the identity of Vader?
Do we know that he doesn't know?
Vader couldn't beat Obi Wan, much less have the stamina to defeat so many Jedi and their Masters.
His power was still juvenile versus the stone cold and hardened Vader we see now.
how long did the inquisitors last They were not seen or mentioned in a Star Wars "A new Hope"
Man took 5 minutes to answer the question, talk about planning the run time
It’s called the “Winter Soldier” playbook
Imagine how different the Star Wars universe would be if the Temple Guards were still alive...
The Grand Inquisitor in ObiWan is an imposter. The real Grand Inquisitor is in StarWars Rebels.
Probably the same person when you look at the speech patterns and species. The only thing that’d make me think that is the time between the two shows
ngl i really need to know if it's true/canon the grand killed them because i believe i heard that all the guards were left for Vader and for no trooper to deal with them for how tough they were during operation knight fall and i also believe that if this did happen grand must of know of Vader before knight fall to do this and in the Vader comics which are canon grand and Vader fought after the whole new Empire not knowing who is who until The Emperor told him right after their fight that they are allies and this is when Vader found out about the inquisitors so in my view I'm just going to take this as your opinion/theory about what could of happen
You keep saying that the Grand Inquisitor is unnamed, but he does have a name. The Grand Inquisitor's real name is Rakesh Thanos.
Ya know as Secretive as they guys where in honestly don’t think there all dead I wouldn’t be to surprised if there where more than a dozen Temples still out there with these guys still protecting them and the Empire being none the wiser
Bro how many more videos do you you wanna make for this one thing
I never knew this
In my star wars their was 1 jedi temple grard is still alive and he is hiding in the unknown region with special holocron that he save.by orders of grand master....
Now... Im fairly sure of the obvious, inevitable outcome either way... BUT had all or nearly all the Temple Guards NOT been killed and was ready to aid in fighting the 501st would the Jedi have had any real chance of making a serious difference?? Since there'd only been more Jedi to fight an gun down OR would somehow they'd beaten off the Clone Forces... Which honestly, makes no sense for the Jedi seeing as millions of angry clones can come in from all directions to back them up if such a scenario had ever happened
They would have held Vader up an extra 41 seconds.
@@jameshyde022 lol yeah, that's sounding, about right... ESPECIALLY seeing as 1 old Venerator SD or air strike, or sma set of arty cannons could stand back an pound them from a distance while riot guards move in to back them up would be my guess in such an instance...it's what is do if it was me an my orders was to take care of them
I thought more than the Grand was converted to "inquisitors"
Distracted by free food in the break room.
So the Grand Inquisitor turned before Vader did 🤔 😳
And literally because Vaders Padawan was put on trial... talk about late to the party, sheeeesh
Lucas hadn't thought about them yet so they weren't there.
Why dose He & some other's have Sith! Eye's ... would be a next cool story to know about ..
Yeah but it's all speculation. What proof was ever offered that indicated he opened the temple doors for Anakin/Vader?
Huum isnt it another known Jedi that is supposed to have oppened the doors for Vader ?
(Or is it legend ?)
Ok so at some point everyone is going to have to realize that obi was the sith lord the whole time security training the child to become darth vader. Consider that then everything else makes more sense
This, and Order 66, sound like hand-wavy bullshit to me. No military operation has the success rate across such a wide variety of engagements that Order 66 had. The idea that a single skilled Jedi could kill all his numerous peers so successful is preposterous. Many Jedi would have survived, and the Temple Guard would have been disciplined enough to notice their attacker before complete destruction. All these Jedi and Temple Guard were the best of the best. But All of them were completely defeated? It sounds like the opposite of plot-armor. I'll call it plot-lethality.
I haven't ever seen more than 5 at a time.he could have killed them in pairs. They wouldn't be expecting what amounts to their commander killing them. They may even have been unarmed. As for the Jedi in the temple, Vader was worth any 5 of them and you had the 501st. if the Jedi sought only to flee I could see more living, but they wouldn't have abandoned their brethren.
@@jameshyde022 I could see the Temple Guards being killed if there were only 5. But I was under the impression there was closer to 75 to 100. The Jedi temple is huge. I'm skeptical that 5 guards would be their total. But I can't say for sure. As far as actual Jedi in the temple, I assumed there was closer to 1000, but that's also a guess.
Barriss Offee was right 🔥
It makes wonder how are.would that operation be if they were there
How many temple guards were there? I'm curious how many the Grand Inquisitor killed on his own.
There is a huge flaw. Like wouldn't the jedi had wondered what happened to all the temple guards?