Every Single Rule of 2 Sith In Star Wars - Darth Bane to Darth Sidious (1,000 Years)
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Drew Karpyshyn later said that he didn't mean to imply that Bane had succeeded in taking over Zannah's body and that Zannah had actually won. The hand thing was meant to be an echo of Bane that was left over.
I always thought as much too
he also right in it doesn't matter.
yes, drew could have written that more clearly, but i never questioned zannah won
I never took it another way but its crazy to hear other people did.
@@infernalmedia1784 It's mainly because some of the book at the end details that she was stumbly when she got up and she had that tremor in her hand that bane did for the rest of her life as well. But when she announces at the end "I Am Darth Zannah!" To Darth Cognis I thought that would've made things clear for those people lmao.
You have made a star wars fan out of someone whom vaguely knew anything out of star wars. Such deep, rich lore to discover thank you
I've always liked the evolution of the Ro2 Era sith. Bane saw the line as a way of developing power covertly, with the apprentice having the job of openly challenging and proving they had become superior. By the time of Plagueis, the focus was on subverting power, and apprentices often succeeded their masters by killing them through trickery or guile. Sidious himself got Plagueis drunk to get him to fall asleep after years of his master remaining awake, so he could remove his respirator he required after a botched assassination attempt. Then electrocuted him in his sleep, but even after Plagueis was confirmed dead, Sidious still was afraid of his master and suspected he may somehow have survived. And most lords of that Era thought that they surely would be the final Sith and kept an apprentice only to secure their own power. Bane would not have approved.
I wonder about that, actually. Ultimately, the shift to subterfuge and guile is what destroyed the Jedi Order, not the pursuit of singular strength or mastery of the dark side. Yes, it was a large part of it, but the actions taken to destroy the Jedi during the clone wars could've been mostly done by anyone, not necessarily a Sith.
Not to mention, the Jedi were never properly wiped out
By the time of Tenebrous and Plagueis, both are described as lightsaber sparring masters, eclipsing any Jedi of their time. Sidious and Tyranus too are some of if not the best duelists of their era. I think the implication is there that they'd grown so powerful by that point in the combative aspects of the Dark Side that they _had_ to resort to subterfuge, and also kept falsely believing themselves to be the Ro2's end goal due to their own power. The paradox of the Sith eventually becoming something Darth Bane might not approve of as a consequence of his own philosophy is, well...ironic, no?
@@Raptorman0205while the sith had become super powerful, 2 of them still couldn’t beat 10,000 jedi straight up, so they had to resort to subterfuge if they wanted to defeat the Jedi. It also makes sense as 30 different sith over 1000 years would likely not see eye to eye on everything.
@@juice_man4439 that's the reason why Sidious ignited the flame of corruption in the Republic & started the Clone War to achieve the vengeance
If I remember correctly, Zannah is her real name. Rain is just her childhood nickname. In the prologue of ROT, her cousin Darovit was surprised she used her birth name.
Darth Rain isn’t intimidating enough lol
@@mikeljackson9192 Many Sith name aren’t that impressive. Have you heard of Darth Ruin, Darth Jean or Darth Rivan? There is Skere Kaan, who I’m pretty sure is named after the tiger from The Jungle Book.
@@kiennguyentrong1897 You are correct. Raain was just a childhood nickname, (I'm pretty sure that's how it's spelled in the comic, the audio books don't help in that regard.) And Zannah was her real name, Her cousin went by Tomcat as a kid but went by Darovit after she blew off his hand in the caves and he became the Healing Hermit of Ruusan. But she's just that BA that she announces herself while hiding with her real name lol.
You forgot darth jar jar
Darth Bane and Zannah will always be my 2 favorite sith
Their final duel on Ambria was my favorite in the Darth Bane trilogy. The fight truly pushed both to the limits of their abilities and proved that they were equals (albeit through different ways)
I loved Zannah, she was a great apprentice and master
Best three books I ever read
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I greatly appreciate you doing a video on the entire Rule of Two timeline, even though there are some Sith Lords we never really knew about. I’ve been watching your vids for the last couple years, and they’ve really broadened my horizons on Star Wars and taught me some things. So thank you, Stupendous Wave, and keep up the awesome work.
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Genuinely love the channel,been around for awhile and my only complaint is that I wish you made longer lore videos (20+ mins) and not just compilations of old ones either I mean full documentary style lore videos
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I would learn under plaguieus A because of his midi-chlorian affinity and B bc he was willing to share his power while ruling from the shadows, I would've loved to have seen both trilogies with him at the helm. A plagueis vs yoda would've been epic
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@@lucky_shot8331 lol I figured but thanks good looks
Plagueis hands down well said
Agreed. Even though I'd probably be like the Sith "that did no evil" Plaguieus' knowledge is too tempting to pass up.
@@trence5 I'm not sure I would even consider Plagueis to be evil, at least not Sidious's brand of evil. I always liked how he leaned away from cruelty unless he deemed it absolutely necessary, and how subtle he could be when accomplishing his goals. I think the empire wouldn't have been toppled so easily under his rule, and who knows what he could've accomplished with Anakin
Author Drew Karpyshyn confirmed Bane failed his essence transfer attempt and died fighting his apprentice
Karpyshyn confirmed in an interview that Zannah won the battle of wills after Bane initiated essence transfer.
What he wanted to be left up to interpretation was whether any part of Bane survived in her, but he absolutely wanted us to know that Zannah was the true winner of their duel and thus worthy successor to Darth Bane and the Rule of Two.
Bane was pleased with his apprentice
That's cool.
Yeah for sure, I think / hope any reader would know that. She wouldn't have been able to duel with her lightsaber as well or be able to cast Sith spells, although we don't really hear about that in the book.
what rubbish, writers are censored by publishers and other content creators. not to mention banes signature muscle tremors continued in zannah, and anything she knew or learned came from bane.
@@nethercords what's rubbish about Bane's chosen apprentice actually fulfilling the purpose he chose her for and proving his own philosophy right? That there's side effects of having shared his mind in her body even just temporarily is at a minimum a given. Maybe he's still in there locked away in her mind somewhere, but it was her personality that was in control when she announced her name. Since we never got a sequel we can never know. She might not exist at all anymore if Disney rewrites Bane's story any more than it already has lol
A mini series of Darth Gravid and Darth Gean would be amazing, but I'd also like a zannah and cognus oriented trilogy of books
yes!
Totally agree. Disney has the opportunity to make two bad ass women sith lords. Instead they make a Mary Sue like Ray Skywalker/Palpatine
I agree on the Darth Zannah/Cognus books. I read the Bane Chronicles again over the past few weeks and thought it would be awesome to continue the storyline.
I know 75% of my SW knowledge because of your content/channel.
Not everything he says in his videos is correct.
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242 true
I don't think I'd try to go Sith completely, but... If there are any... Dooku, AKA Darth Tyrannus, is who I'd try to be apprentice to for personal reasons. IRL, I'm quite unrefined and unfocused fue to ADHD, yet love the idea of blade combat and even took up a little bit of a fencing class while in high school. I love Dooku's philosophies to saber combat and how he utilizes Form 2, and hope that these could be starting points to focusing my abilities.
Yeah, and he wasn’t heartless either he legitimately thought that he had a good way of doing things he really cared about people
No, Zannah was her real name. Rain was a nickname that her cousins gave her.
Love the lore of the sith. Bring me more my lord.
I’d love to see a show like the upcoming Tales of the Jedi.
Only it shows stories with all or some of the Rule of Two Sith.
It could be called ‘Rule of Two’ or ‘Legacy of Bane’
yes please
Legends of The Sith
Tales of the sith. Is surely the obvious answer
“BANE”
I've been waiting for a video like this for so long, thank you
Drew Karpyshyn confirmed in an interview that Zannah did in fact repel Bane when he attempted the essence transfer. That twitch of her hand was supposed to indicate that the last vestiges of Banes spirit was leaving. I thought the end was vague too. For the longest time I thought Bane was still alive. I'm glad Karpyshyn cleared that up though.
My favorite is Tenebrous, because he's a Bith who's a Sith. A Sith Bith, Jerry!
Now kith
On this particular list I’d say Bane as a favorite and would have been interesting learning the ways of the Sith/Dark side from him. Zannah would likely be my second favorite from this list/vid.
A full video needs to be done on Darth Rampage because that short snippet in this video was misleading. Darth Rampage didn’t just attempt to find the secret to time travel, he actually succeeded. Darth Rampages Holocron was found by a Jedi survivor of Order 66 Jax Pavan. Jax used the knowledge of the Holocron against the Empire for a very short time and was able to sense and manipulate time with the Force. Because Jax Pavan was a relatively low level force wielder he wasn’t able to do much with the ability as grand manipulations of time would require a large amount of Force power that he did not possess. However if the knowledge of the Holocron were to fall into the hands of someone as powerful as Vader all bets would have been off. Knowing that the knowledge of the Force Power was far to dangerous for either the Jedi or Sith to possess Jax hid the Holocron and then had his memory wiped, causing the knowledge of the ability to be lost to time. An interesting what if would be if Vader had gotten his hands on the ability. Perhaps he may have been able to alter the past to the point where he was never burned on Muustifar. This would have lead to a Vader who had all the wisdom and knowledge of the Vader we know while still possessing the power of the chosen one. At that point he could have enough power to save Padme, and essentially rule over all time as a Force God. However Darth Rampage and Jax Pavan are the only two known users of the ability of Time Manipulation making it the rarest Force Power in all of Star Wars
I love the music you use when talking about the empire or Sith. It matches just how powerful and dangerous these beings are in the wars universe.
Love your work. When I can’t sleep I find your channel and listen to Star Wars lore to relax and fall back asleep
Darth Bane the Sith'ari is my favorite, and I'm a fan of Darth Vectivus. However I would choose Darth Plagueis the Wise as my master!
Darth Tenebrous' public persona was Rugess Nome. He was the head of a well-known yacht-building firm.
Actually Starship design!
Darth Millennial vs Darth Boomer :)
AM so excited to see more sith Lords in the future of star wars
You're excited to see how Disney will water down, distort, rip off from, and ultimately ruin all these awesome characters as they've done to every other element of the expanded universe they've hamfistedly introduced...? I think they'll still just do a poor job of it, would rather they not bother. Eventually, they are going to have to go back and reboot what they did if they want to keep this franchise for more than a decade, and if that's too much trouble they're going to end up needing to sell it off, they're barely making money. Hell, Solo lost money. And when you do the math on how much they're making, don't forget to account for the hundreds of millions per movie in marketing. Most people leave that out and assume they're making bigger profits than they are. They're not making shit right now imo.
@@draconianemanations2785 THISSSS
@@draconianemanations2785 facts on facts on facts
If I could, I would be trained by Darth Plagueis the Wise. He would've treated me as an equal, and share much information
To be fair, he is the least awful of the Banite Sith, except Darth Vectivus.
He actually seemed like a good dude. Would’ve loved to have a beer and death stick with him
@@kiennguyentrong1897 still sinister of course
Such is the way of the Sith
My favorite Sith in this list is without question Darth Cognus, i love her loyalty to the rule of 2 and the fact she have farsight and that she is able to understand that her efforts would bring the victory of the Sith and did not let her personal ambition taking over her ideal
I would love to see who the Sith are that are hiding during the High Republic era
Lol the High Republic?
That's just a bad fanfic.
Old Republic ftw. ✨
@@draconianemanations2785 amen
@@draconianemanations2785 I mean…it’s basically just the official term for the time between the end of the Old Republic (said to be around the same time as the Sith’s disappearance) and the Empire/New Republic…so pretty much “the Middle Republic”
To answer the question: it seems like Plagueis or Vectivus would be the most genuinely educational masters, so I’d pick one of those two. Some masters seem mostly to torment their apprentices; others seem more interested in consolidating personal or political power than teaching
I really wish the Bane books would be made into movies or a tv series.
But, they'd have to stay extremely book accurate.
Careful what you wish for… they might do it and butcher it
As much as I loved the Bane Trilogy, I know Disney would screw it up royally! It's better left in the books.
A TV show would be best, but make the episodes an hour and a half long and follow the books to a T. I guarantee this would save the franchise.
They should just canonize the books, disney would mess up the movie
Agree. That's why I said book accurate. And by that, I mean word for word, scene for scene. Lol
Since "The Acolyte" was released, we now know that the show takes place in 100 BBY, the last one hundred years of the High Republic era, during the reign of Darth Tenebrous -- during the finale we see a glimpse of who can only be determined to be Darth Plagueis himself, but as Tenebrous is still alive at that time, that would make Plagueis still the Apprentice as he didn't attain Mastery of the Sith Order until after he had slain Tenebrous.
I like to think that every sith master that fell to their apprentice did so willingly, and thus continually transfer the spirit of Darth Bane into the next generation. This would explain why Sidious (for example) was unnoticed in his infancy, but grew to completely dominate anyone who challenged him.
Nope, Darth Tenebrous found his apprentice Darth Plageuis unfit and wanted to replace him
Well, you're wrong.
Zannah in my opinion won and was shocked she won as she did declare the she won and bane would have thought cogsworth essence transfer for it won’t be lost in time
The author confirmed that she did win the battle of wills, however the shaking hand was a hint of whether a piece of Bane managed to make it through
@@betterlatethannever4529 thank u so much for letting me know
Is it, not Reven who created the Rule of Two? In Bane's book Path of Destruction. Bane only learns about the idea of the rule of two by finding Revens Holocrom and Reven explain nature's dark side. We clearly explain why they can only be one master and apprentice or Sith will fail for Weeknes will overrun the Sith by ganging up on strong. Sorry for my bad spelling, I have dyslexia. What do you all think? I agree with is Bane put it in practice.
IIRC Revan’s holocron only provided basic concepts that allowed Bane to come to the conclusion of the Ro2. It really was Bane’s idea. Revan crawled so Bane could fly.
Darth Zannah beat Bane in the end, wasn’t too much ambiguity about it.
exactly im shocked so many people were confused by the ending
I like the theory that Darth bane has been the sith for the last thousand plus years and has just gone from body to body to body to body and has somehow found a way to eternal life
He was the sithari even if it isn’t true.
It’s a bad theory since it goes against the base of the Ro2, which Bane honored
@@fraisertinko not rly considering it would still just be 2 sith he would just take over the body of another and another and another and another.
@@jonathanhill3668 but Bane fanatically believed that only the strongest should prevail and lead the sith further on. Surely he could have survived for 1000 years, but only if ALL his apprentices had a weak will, which is not so realistic. Thus I believe that bane lost the battle of wills with Zannah and she rightfully became the new dark lord, stronger than the previous one.
I actually strongly agree with it he wouldn't have admitted that knowledge as he would have wanted to always have one ace or more in the sleeve one to have the power one to covet it I mean was literally disappointed she haddent betrayed him earlier also again he also just reimplamented the rule of 2
Been needing this
The Dark Lady, Lumiya, sounds like she’d have a bit of fun in taking down the Jedi, and she does!
Darth bane isn't the one who started the rule of two. If I'm correct, bane learned the rule of two from raven's holacron.
Great job. Love this video. My apprenticeship would be under Revan.
Funny that the rule of two enforces the apprentice to kill his master and yet we dunno for sure if that was the case for Zannah and Cognus...
Not to mention Darth Krayt and his master Xo'Xaan, but they are only Legends characters.
I always found Zannah rather interesting seeing as she is the one duelist that somehow managed to defeat Bane. I'm actually curious to see what Form III Soresu with a Saberstaff looks like in action.
All she could do was twirl her Saber essentially making a shield. Just watch Donatello from TMNT twirl his staff around and you'll have a clear demonstration lmao. She couldn't compete with Bane physically so Bane taught her to redirect blows and wear opponents down to counter when they tired and made a mistake since she wouldn't be able to compete otherwise.
@@SeviathTheHumanDrago She was also really good at sith sorcery. Something that bane didn't dwell too deeply into. Very based.
And one of the few who actually stood true to the rule.
She lost in the lightsaber duel, but overpowered bane with the with sorcery and after that won the battle of wills
I enjoy the fact that; the ancient sith ways of mass teaching and an army against the rule of 2 and both believable ways for a 'cult' to exist. Very interesting ways to create antagonists
My favorite quote from Bane comes from The Tales of The Sith: “The Dark Side not a raging fire. It is poison. Pour the poison into a large body of water and it is useless. But if you put poison in one person, it is lethal.”
Darth Maul was intended to be a Sith assassin according to Plagueis desire but Darth Sidious clearly lied to his Master and went further beyond in his training do I do consider him a Rule of 2 Sith who had a premature fallout
100% Sidious gave him the title of darth. He was the theoretical successor to Sidious
Yes, and it was heavily implied Sidious actually CARED about Maul because in the Phantom Menace book he is described as having a hole in him after he killed his master whose death coincided with Mauls "death" across the galaxy, Sidious felt "alone" according to him.
@@SeviathTheHumanDrago that and he trained him since he was a boy. He was meant to be successor until anakin. He didn’t expect him to die on Naboo and then needed a stop gap until anakin came of age so he corrupted dooku and used him as both face of separatist movement and apprentice
I agree with you guys. If you read the maul books like lockdown and shadow Hunter it explains as well that plagueis thought of him as just a tool/assassin but sideous didn't feel the same. He's more of a secret/failed apprentice. If you won't count maul then you can't count dooku either in my opinion.
@@hewhofalls777 the thing with Dooku is that even though he may have just been a pawn and place holder for sidious’ ideal apprentice, he was still granted the darth title by a sith master. Maul was only supposed to be an assassin and it was Sidious who granted him the title while being an apprentice himself to plagueis. That goes against the rule of two. By every technicality, maul shouldn’t be considered a Sith Lord. However, some may argue that he held that title for a few moments since it’s believed that when he was supposedly “killed” on Naboo, Sidious felt his death through the force mistaking it as plagueis reaching out to him from death just moments after he had killed him.
It's logical to assume Vectivus was a member of the mining Guild owning his own mine and asteroid belt implies wealth and the Various family's that make up the various guild's in start wars canon so maybie his role was to start Inflitration of non Republic assets ,Hence why he never did any evil his job was to gather information and pass it back to his master who ever that was,Also there's Pictures in the Sith guide showing Devironian master and another Sith twilek master if memory serves me
Loved the video mate! Have always been a fan of Vader and Maul, But if I had to pick someone to master me it would definitely be Revan
Darth Maul was indeed a true Sith apprentice.
He was just an assassin and a decoy
Yeah rewatch the movies bud
The author of the rule of two series realized that the ending was unclear and released a statement saying that his intention was that Zanna had won the final duel with Bane
Pretty sure it was confirmed that Zannah managed to resist the essence transfer, and Bane died at that point.
Darth Millennial ended up opening an indie muffin store
Unrelated comment, but i think Josh Brolin (Thanos) would be the perfect actor for a live action Darth Bane
As the description is a massive well built bald man, I would say Dwayne Johnson.
Disney needs to give us a show that explores the rule of two. Something like a show where each season looks at a pair of sith with the final being the death of the master. Could allow for a brief over view and build up to the grand plan
That would be epic. One episode per pair, exploring an important event however not necessarily on a galaxy scale. Each episode narrated by the master, talking about his/her master. 3 seasons, ending with Sidious killing Plageaus
Disney would just ruin it.
Disney should lose their rights to Star Wars, if I am being quite honest.
Would be cool but honestly I would want to see Path of Destruction in live action more. It gets across the spirit of the rule of two better than any actual story about the Baanite sith could
What a BA idea for a video. Great channel man (AZ)
I would have wanted to be an apprentice under darth bane. His no nonsense leadership feels close to home since I'm in the military. His books were great too.
i always liked darth bane the most, because he wasnt evil for the evilz. He was practical and just wanted to preserve the legacy of the sith. putting his order above himself.
You're not in the military.
@aaron s 12 years and counting in the army my dude.
Also, Zannah’s original name was Zannah. She went by Rayne for a reason I can’t remember.
it was a childhood nickname
Disney needs to make a Darth Nihilus movie
That was a great video right to the end. My all time favorite Sith is The mighty Darth Bane . I would choose Tenebrous for my Master, Maybe he would build me a nice ship
I thought Zannah won. Thought she stood up & said "Bane is gone.."
Question: didn't Lumiya count as Darth Vader apprentice? she went on to train Jacen Solo so both of them could arguably counted in the rule of 2 lineage.
Lumiya was a sith by default. which is fine since she was still trained by a sith, and she carried on their legacy.
I would apprentice myself to Darth Vectivous. I just want to be a chill Sith. Dark side does not have to mean evil
# 1 darth bane story makes sense if you follow the book series and # 2 the darth plagueis book makes sense if followed correctly 😅 those 2 are my favorite Sith Lords 😁👍
Darth Bane is the best sith for me
"force crush the subscribe button" Don't think i have ever subscribed so fast in my life. Epic
They need to make live action one off films, featuring different sixth lords.
yes please!
An entire video could be spent on the Sith Triad: Darth Traya, Dark Lady of the Sith; Darth Nihilus (The Hunger) and Darth Sion (The Pain). The only time in history a Sith Triad existed....
Until Nihilus killed them . And everything else for that matter.
I wish there was more info on how the Sith Empire fell and basically the rise of the Brotherhood of Darkness
I will tell you why betrayal, betrayal betrayal is why the Sith ultimately. I can respect their devotion to power but their lack of discipline and restraint is what ultimately ends them. The Dark Side is used as a shortcut at times and can be used as a crutch at worst. Wanting everything rather than having a defined goal and limit is what brings them to ruin.
@@JohnnyDominion I mean, yeah. I just want like a book or something on it at least
Darth bane, Darth zannah, plagueis, and vader are my favorites and zannah would be my master.
nice
Love your content on Vectivus.
I'm curious about something....
During the Rule of 2 era of Sith when they were going through various Sith Masters/Apprentices.
What strategies were the Sith of that time period doing to progress on their grand plan and when did they think was the right time to reveal themselves to the Republic?
Why was Darth Sidious and Darth Vader the ones to execute the grand plan and not other Sith rule of two going before them?
I mean I'm sure the other Sith lords are just as powerful.
Why did it take them 1,000 years to execute this grand plan?
I think it had to do with the fact that each sith got stronger and more capable each time they replaced their master as they learned everything from their master before they replace them, and continue to learn until teaching their apprentice and ultimately being replaced, feeding the cycle. And Sidious and Plagueis had figured out immortality meaning that he'd be able to rule forever as one of the most powerful sith possible.
It's also a matter of amassed resources, I think, and enough time passing to lower the galaxy's guard against the sith. Even to the jedi in modern times, the sith were mostly just a legend. Sidious didn't enact the grand plan by being a sith, if you think about it, what enabled it was political manipulation. That manipulation, in turn, had its foundation in the vast resources of Plagueis as an interplanetary banking tycoon. Across most of these sith lords' stories, you find examples of how they used the force subtly to put themselves in positions of power that become greater and greater with each generation of the rule of two.
I don't think that each generation of sith were by default more powerful in the force than those who came before them. Especially since most of them in the stories we're shown didn't take on their masters in outright duels, but murdered them through covert means. Plagueis' inner monologue makes it evident that he doubted being able to kill Tenebrous, and he orchestrated a cave-in to make it happen. Tenebrous' inner monologue meanwhile reveals he let himself die, to enable essence transfer, which then failed due to a miscalculation. Though we have to take it at face value that Sidious is the canonically most powerful sith, since that's been stated to death by the lore, he also didn't duel Plagueis. He murdered him in his sleep. This is probably a pattern that carries across many more of the unnamed ones. If anything, most were probably weaker than Bane and Zannah. Instead, they were amassing financial and political power, until the day one powerful enough, such as Sidious, and by then prepared enough could use those resources to truly see the plan through.
The sith only showed their hand and moved to remove the jedi from power after Sidious had already been ELECTED to lead by the common people, and thus turned the entire system against the jedi with seeming legitimacy. Powerful as Sidious was, he was never strong enough to just go to war against the jedi outright. He had to set the scene, and generations of sith before him played their part in that.
The early Banite Sith were focused on quietly rebuilding the power of the Sith by searching the Galaxy for Sith Holocrons and dark side writings/techniques. Over time, the Sith grew in the power of the dark side and began working to sow disorder in the Republic from behind the scenes. In time, the Sith had acquired so much power that they were nearly on the verge of overthrowing the Republic. Unfortunately, however, around this time the Sith came under the control of Darth Gravid who believed that the Sith should incorporate light side teachings into their training. His attempts to do so drove him mad and Gravid began destroying nearly every single Holocron and text that the Sith had acquired throughout the centuries. Gravid was quickly killed by his apprentice, Darth Gean, but the damage was already done. The Sith had to restart from the beginning AGAIN under Darth Gean. However, around this time, the Sith ended their isolation from the Galactic community and began to operate out in the open under various aliases in order to increase the power of the Order. Darth Tenebrous was known as Rugess Nome, a famous starship designer. Darth Plagueis was known as Hego Demask, a wealthy investor and political boss. Darth Sidious was obviously known as Palpatine, an aristocratic politician who became chancellor of the Republic.
I actually named the playlist I have for the darth bane trilogy “rise of the rule of 2”
cool
5:20 this is why legends will always be better than cannon (or just whatever disney attempts to make this approachable to suitable audiences)
exactly. i still keep finding older stories from the expanded the universe that always makes me happy, compared to the new stuff.
I've always been more of a fan of Darth Tenebrous than I can really explain why, and would love to see something covering the waning High Republic feature him, to give him more content. I like his intellect, and scientific appraisal of the Force. I get that it does have a more mystical element, but there are times when I like to think of it as more an energy source, and less an entity with a will, opinions, plans, and the like. I often see myself as more a nerd of Star Wars lore than many of my friends, and often like the idea of using certain EU lore, knowing that they won't get the references, and dream of having a play group in sone Star Wars RPG at least also doing side jobs for this one eccentric Bith starship engineer they met at a high-end gala, even using one of his ships, but having no idea that this Rugess Nome was actually Darth Tenebrous. I like that I k own stuff about him; he's an established character, but then there is still enough vaguery to allow me to add my own stuff, within reason, and make him mine, after a fashion. This is doubly true because way back when, I invented my own Dark Lord, who specializes in dark battle meditation, and as his will shadowy slips into the minds of others, I named him Darth Tenebrous, after the Obtenebration abilities of Vampire the Masquerade, only to later have an official character steal my name, if you will; it can be tough to come up with a good Sith name that isn't already used. After this, I guess I decided if they used my name, I might as well like their character. 😊
my favorites are darth plaguis the wise, and darth bane.
Why did you show Malgus when you were talking about Bane?
It’s cool that they’re tying in some of the newer characters that we’ve seen, like here that cal met Anakin when he was a padawan, and from tales of the Jedi we saw Caleb Dume/Kanan Jarrus with with Anakin and Obi wan and other Jedi masters watching Ashoka train
Drew Karpyshyn told media that Bane lost
Dont forget Darth Abs who can turn you evil just by showing his short saber
On this list my favorite is first Dath Vectivus because I just love that idea of a "good" sith. But he is closely followed by Darth Bane due to Bane looking at a problem and finding the solution.
I, however, hate the rule of 2, and would have been an apprentice that any one of these Sith would have had to kill due to that. MAYBE I would be able to hide my hatred for the Rule of 2... but I doubt it. I would want either Plagueis(i can't spell this name...) or Vectivus to teach me. Plag*inserttherest* for his specific talent in the force and Vectivus because I just like him.
Could Darth Venomous be the one in the Acolyte? Going off what venom looked like in spiderman and also the grin/mouth on the siths mask?
That's what I was thinking to, also it's pronounced Darth Venamis
My favorite Sith Lord is Darth Kryat, but my favorite Sith Lord on this list is Darth Plagueis the Wise and he's definitely the Sith I would choose to train me.
while dooku is my favorite character, i think bane is the greatest rule of 2 sith. i just finished the bane trilogy, and his character is truly a force of nature. his ambition and the things he’s willing to do to accomplish his goals. to sacrifice yourself, knowing that you’ll never reap the rewards of your work. i think bane reading the texts of the ancient sith gave bane purpose. he had only ever experienced that once, with the gloomwalkers while he was in the sith army. he never experienced that at the sith academy. he longed for meaning, but the sith temple gave him a shallow existence. fighting for an order with contradictory teachings. an order that abandoned you after being defeated in a duel. he was lost. but reading the texts of the ancient sith helped him to articulate his problems with the contradictory teachings of the brotherhood of darkness. it inspired a vision of the future, one that he could lay the foundations for. it gave him purpose, and he worked tirelessly to achieve that goal. that’s what makes him so interesting in my opinion. he’s quite different from palpatine in that sense. palpatine saw power as an end in itself. to quote bane, “power is only a means to an end. It is not an end in itself.” bane is a person who longed for something greater. he sought purpose. again, he found that in the gloomwalkers, but that was taken away from him when he was taken to korriban. while he quickly learned that the meaning he found within the life of a soldier was hollow, he also quickly learned that the meaning he found within the sith academy was hollow. he saw a broken sith order and decided to dedicate his life to restoring the sith order. and from that point on, he was a force of nature. nothing could stop him from accomplishing his goal. when you get to see his internal monologue, he’s never raving about how he wants “unlimited power.” he’s constantly thinking about how to ensure the success of the rule of 2. the only times he hungers for power are when he’s trying to get something that’s meant to help future sith in his dynasty, like when he was learning to create holocrons. he desperately wanted zannah to strike him down, and to take on the mantle of sith master. he’s the most dedicated character in all of star wars in my honest opinion.
There can only be two. A Master and an apprentice no more no less.
But I will admit that the rule of two doesn't really make much sense
Darth Bane's philosophy was that by having two sith, it would concentrate
the dark side of the force.
Which sounds reasonable but doesn't make sense
Because in the old republic Darth Vitiate / Valkorion / Tebebrae was the most powerful being in the galaxy and in the old republic era there was thousands of sith
@@Kilimanjaro1533 think about it like this, yes the pre-rule of two sith did have a lot of power, but they always ended up losing to the jedi.
Meanwhile with the rule of two they got the most powerful sith to ever live, and ended up successfully taking over the galaxy
I wonder what Vectivus and Plagueis would be able to do together if The Business Man and The Book brought their minds together. Plagueis who studies many different Ancient Sith teachings and dabbles in some Light Side knowledge while Vectivus was a smart business man while also filling his mind with knowledge purely about the DarkSide. What could’ve been. ……now that I think about it, it might’ve turned into something like Tenebrous and Plagueis.
Wait I think you forgot Darth Jar Jar, the most powerful sith ever
Darth Vectivus would probably be the best master to have out of them all.
Small correction, I know I know “dont nitpick” I am just such a big Star Wars fan. Seen all the shows/movies and read all the books/comics and love em. Zahnna actually killed two jedi not two soldiers (well I suppose since they were army of light that’s debatable but I still have to mention it) that happened upon her and her bouncer friend Laa. I think her killing two trained jedi knights with her raw force ability is quite extraordinary and telling of her destiny
I like the lengthy vids
Canon and legends
Darth bane
Apprentice of bane:
Darth zannah
Apprentices of zannah:
Darth millenium - had No apprentice
Darth cognus
Apprentice of cognus:
Unknown
Master of Darth vectivus:
Unknown sith
Darth vectivus
Apprentice of vecticus:
Darth Sanguis
Apprentice of Sanguis:
Darth Noctyss
Apprentice of Noctyss:
Darth gravid
Apprentice of gravid:
Darth Gean
Apprentice of Gean:
Darth Guile
Apprentice of Guile:
Darth Sakia
Apprentice of Sakia:
Darth Krist-ov (maybe isnt real)
Apprentice of Krist:
Darth Caldoth
Apprentice of Caldoth:
Ry nimbus
Apprentice of Ry:
Darth ramage
Apprentice of Ramage:
Darth tennebrous
Apprentice of Tennebrous:
Darth plagueis
Darth Venamis (had No Apprentice)
Apprentice of Plagueis:
Darth Sidious
Apprentice of Sidious:
Darth maul
Darth Tyranus
Darth vader
Apprentice of Maul:
Savage
(Ezra)
Apprentice of Vader:
Starkiller
Darth Vectivus is the truest expression of a successful sith lord. The man survived in the spirit form all the way to meet Lumiya (Shira Brie) and wonder Emo kid Darth Caedus Jason.
Of all of them I would want to be Bane’s apprentice. He was the originator of the Rule of Two. His philosophy was extremely clear and that was to play the long game and learn as much about the Force as possible while undermining the Republic and the Jedi Order. For the others it was shortsightedness and greed that drove them.
I always like the tought of Darth Gravith not actually being driven mad but got later on demonized for his heresy by successor dark lords of the banite order.
Darth Maul was a Sith Lord!
Wasn't venomous used in the experiments leading up to anakins conception?
It's proof that snoke and kylo ren are hated to the point they didn't even make the list
their not even part of the banite era of sith.
It would be really cool to find out that Bane succeeded in taking over Zannah and for a while just went from master to take over his apprentice, eventually failing at one point ending up trapped in the planet where he was found in the Clone Wars. I'd prefer to apprentice under Darth Vectivus or Darth Plagueis. The idea that Plagueis came up with the scheme to include his apprentice to be immortal with him is very different than most Sith and touching.
We honestly need a show of the rule of two
I think that you are correct about Darth Vectivus being the master of Darth Gravid. As Vectivus did no evil, it would explain why Gravid went crazy. Also, an old Wookieepedia listing for Vectivus had Vectivus dying 5 years AFTER Darth Gean did. Since Gean was the apprentice of Gravid, I believe that Gravid was the apprentice of Vectivus. Also, the was no Darth Rampage. His name is Darth Ramage according to Wookieepedia. He was a male Twi'lek scientist, as was the master of Tenebrous. I believe that Ramage was the master of Tenebrous.