While he wasn't a Jedi, Maul was clearly able to sense that something vastly important was about to happen, although he didn't know what exactly, as he was super fearful in the last season of Clone Wars. And he too felt Anakin's fall to the dark side, though mostly felt Sidious's actions, due to his prior connection with Sidious
I love Maul, he’s my favorite “sith” despite being more of a sith assassin than a Sith Lord. Dooku is very close, but I love Maul in the animated series. I just find it amazing how they took “oh this guy looks bad ass” and made him into so much more. I almost wish Ashoka could have redeemed him. I understand she couldn’t, as 50 years of dark side influence is hard to beat when it was all he ever knew.
True. And most of the Jedi we see die in ROTS were in the middle of fights. If they did sense danger they probably thought It was the dangers from the enemies Infront of them rather than the dangers from the "allies" behind them.
The Bad Batch shows Depa Bilaba making that “something’s not right” face right as her CC receives the Order. Not the intensity of pain that Yoda and Ahsoka experience, but more visible awareness than most of the others (like Aylaa and Ki Adi Mundi) showed. Since we can’t see Plo Koon’s face and he’s already leading a dog fight at the time Warthog receives the Order, it’s really hard to say with him.
That jedi master in fallen order who trained cere saw it coming. Mace windu also sensed it “i sense a plot to destroy the jedi” he just died before it happened. Yoda obviously knew. Ahsoka felt something off with rex and only had time to process what was happening because of rexs hesitation. She did feel anakins fall but had little idea of what actually happened.
My head cannon was they all could sense it because they weren't doing anything requiring full focus. Yoda was observing the battle, ahsoka was standing in her ship relaxing, and in the fallen order both of them were just having a talk. All The other Jedi shown were in the middle of a battle and distracted.
Yoda sensed the overall mass killing of the Jedi because he wss literally the strongest Jedi ever. I believe Cal's master was also able to sense the mass killings because his species has been shown to have strong spirituality, foresight and intuition. Plus he was a Jedi so those innate abilities became even more enhanced. And yea, Ahsoka sensed Anakin's fall to the Dark side. Not Order 66 happening itself.
@@kam-bf9qf the term “strongest” is subjective with Jedi, as to be a Jedi master you have to be attuned with the force, force intuition is the primary skill that allows a padawan to become a Jedi master... Lightsaber skills and force abilities are all subjective to the Jedi themselves...
I always thought Kenobi could sense Palpatine and his plot. First scene in Phantom Menace, Kenobi told Qui-Gon that he “felt something elusive…something elsewhere”. Qui-Gon shot it down immediately. Yoda, who was more of a teacher, probably would have probed more and possibly outed Palpatine a lot sooner, despite his force ability to masked his force abilities. 🤷🏽♂️
@@JBones seems Dooku like Ventress coulda easily been made to switch sides a second time provided the Jedi had the capacity to renew his Faith in the Order he felt forced to turn his back on. Since Dooku never fell ironically quite as far as Anakin did.
One more thing about Ashoka I believe it was she really have strong connection with the clones. So when order 66 given she realizes something is of with them. +Rex holding back is proof that even if the clones was actually behave like robots for some of them inside them thay feel every moment trapped to there on a body they didn't control any more for someone like Ashoka so connect with them in personal level is definitely something she can Sense.
@@damaskholdings9140 yes! you correct in this. Ashoka definitely don't felt the order 66 The thing is. Even if Ashoka wasn't Force sensitive she was so close with them to sense something is off. With her skill in the force definitely understand something is happening with them. Even if in a basic instinctive level this was enough to buy some second and stay alive.
imo the clones (especially rex) held back because ahsoka wasnt technically a jedi since she left the order. but then they still called here Commander Tano so they were really confused
In the original Knights of the Old Republic video game this happens. It was mind blowing. If you could find a way to play it, you'd still enjoy in 2022.
@@Yapftl Unfortunately Im a Playstation guy. Revan caused a disturbance in the force before and afyer the mind wipe. Yoda sensed it as well as others. The final point where he chooses light or dark is a crux in the force as well.
Imagine what the last moments were like for some of the Jedi right after the order went through? Being aware of the emotions of your surrounding allies at the time whether it was stress, determination, fear, anxiety, etc. and then suddenly all that just disappears and for just a moment you feel a hundred eyes looking at you, like being in a crowded room with everyone talking and then they all simultaneously go quiet and stare at you.
Along with the video explanations I'd add that it was not so easy to separate the deaths of Jedi via clones from all the deaths that were occurring due the war itself. In fact, as gained from other Star Wars lore sources, part of the Sith plan was to surround the Jedi with so much death that they could not, or at least would have incredible difficulty, isolating the sources of the dark feelings that surround death, be those feelings from victim or perpetrator.
I think they could sense the deaths of the Jedi more keenly as the Force is redistributed when they die, most about the same time, the sudden shift of the Force at the same time knocking their Force balance off balance, disturbed, many died knowing something was wrong but not being able to pin-point the source, the clones.
@@adrianburchell8075 I can see that. Even Yoda, despite feeling the pains/losses/shifts in the Force, he did hesitate and didn't react lethally-defensive until he was actually being set upon by the troopers behind him. Also, Yoda wasn't surrounded, per say, as so many other Jedi actually were. It was only two clones and two wookies nearby when the order went out.
More than anything this is why I think the war was so critical for Palpatine. The war lead to several jedi turning to the dark side. There was death and chaos everywhere. Yoda and mace even talked about how their ability to use the force was diminished. Palpatine could have used politics and senate corruption without the war to get power and become emperor. What he needed was the devastating effect of the clone wars on the jedis senses.
I have pondered this, and drew the same conclusions. I would add that some Jedi would have sensed the total loss of emotion from the clone troopers. Those really in tune with their command would have been sensing their troops' emotions like any good troop commander. The sudden absence of individual thought would be akin to death. But all of this is moot. The attacks and changes were simply so instantaneous not even most jedi masters had enough time to react. They probably all felt it while simultaneously the sucker punch blaster fire was already in the air.
the three jedi that sensed werent preoccupied with the battle at that time n were in a more relaxed state of mind. ahsoka was on a ship(IIRC), jaro tapal was with cal training and yoda wasnt on the field but experienced.
I like to think a few sensed Order 66 being carried out because the signal took time to spread throughout galactic space. So those troopers further away hadn't received the kill order yet. Or, were just receiving it while others had completed it.
Realistically though the Republic transmissions would still have only taken a matter of minutes. It's still bad storytelling that the Jedi Temple wasn't already on guard when Anakin arrived, and upon his entry to the Temple their senses would have already sensed the disturbance and known other Jedi were being massacred. I think they did a crap job on making the taking of the Temple seem easy.
@@chrisstowell484 I think this is more of an issue of perspective. Operation Nightfall was occurring simultaneously with Order 66. Vader was already on his way to the temple and beginning the massacre while Palpatine was calling out to the clone leaders
@@Earthquaker Palpatine's communication was immediately after Anakin left the room. Anakin had to contact the 501st, Assemble them, surround the perimeter to attempt to stop any escape, and then he began his assault. We're talking at least fifteen minutes and probably closer to a half hour. With all the Jedi in the Temple it's highly unlikely they wouldn't have sensed massive numbers of the Jedi Council being killed relatively close together. With what we know of the Force it's highly unlikely the Jedi at the Temple wouldn't have known. Whether you go with Shaak Ti dying by Grievous or in the Meditation Chamber. It's unlikely that whatever Masters that remained in the Temple at the time would have sensed it, and a great many of knights, guardians, and even some padawans depending on their individual strength of the Force. All I'm saying is the storytelling has rather sucked in congruity with the power of the Force witnessed thus far from The Old Republic to Mortis, to the Last Skywalker. It could have been done better and more realistic with the Force and still had the Clone's surprise more than effective enough for a rage filled Anakin to take the Temple. Just saying I think Jocasta and other's would have already left and possibly returned once by the time Anakin arrived. Especially with their secret passages a Padawn/Knight who rarely spent major periods of time AT the Temple because he was deep in the midst of the Clone Wars, would hardly have necessarily known or had access too. As a child I'm sure he snooped around and knew some. But he obviously didn't know them all
Great video. I always thought most of the Jedi didn't sense it because they were "in the moment" as in ready for battle against the Separatists. Valid point about the order going out that took away the will of the clones from them and essentially turned them into something akin to droids. As you said, Jedi can sense droids being there but not their intentions, and with the Jedi's intentions being on what they were doing wouldn't have sensed the impending betrayal. Ahsoka had such a strong connection with her Jedi master, Anakin, that she felt his turn to the dark side which alerted her something was up. Yoda had such a strong connection withthe force that he felt what happened to the other Jedi.
The Jedi who sensed the betrayal were closer to their troops or were extremely powerful in the force. Some of the Jedi saw the troops as just things to use so they weren't close enough to them to get a feeling off them.
This is so well written, @6:36 "... it was a twofold deception. Palpatine had waited until the Jedi were so spread thin, that they would be left completely vulnerable. Surrounded by their own executors before he called upon the dreaded order 66. The timing hadn't been more perfect, and the result hadn't been more effective."
I believe the clones had a sense of duty when the control chips were enforced, the same sense of duty the Jedi had become used to over the course of the war, the ones who detected betrayal at the last moment sensed "kill" from the clones and reacted.
We already let them assign a social security number, car tag, title, deed to land.. like when watching the bad batch I was like these galactic codes everyone is getting assigned we already have. The dark side already won in our worlc
So basically those who died first didn't sense it But those who died/were targeter later sensed it because of the deaths of those who died first. The more deaths, the more the remaining Jedi senses it.
Remember the force also needed this to happen to come into balance due to the jedi. What I think happened is the force chose a select few individuals that could recognize the flaws in what was, and grow moving forward to teach the next generation, as well as chosing those who could actually survive. The force then warned those select individuals.
Great video! But it wasn't only 3 Jedi that sensed all the killing and the Dark Side (Ahsoka specially), I know a case of a Jedi called Kirak Infil'a (yes, it's Canon) who left the order (not sure he can be considered one) many years ago before the order 66. He appears on the comic "Darth Vader Dark Lord of the Sith". When Darth Vader found him a few moments after "Revenge of the Sith" he said he felt "the death of his brothers" (the Jedi of course).
I understand what you're saying, but the comics and novels are not considered canon by Disney. Cause they crapped on them on multiple occasions. How Kanan Jarrus survived order 66, for instance.
I actually don't think the clones didn't have emotions or intentions during order 66. When you see the clone kill a Jedi master during the clone wars when a chip defected earlier than planned, that clone had murderous (though confusing) murmurings. Clones aren't droids but are living beings. Even if they're controlled, they're emotions will be used in the process. I think the Jedi not sensing their intentions was just because many were in the heat of war and didn't have a second to notice the quick change.
There were many more Jedi who sensed Order 66 when it was happening & far before it happened but most of them were to slow to react to it in time 🤷🏾♂️. Poor teaching , poor leadership & a poor mentor in Yoda is vastly responsible for this. He taught the Jedi of his order to play off the DarkSide , ignore it or just stay completely away from it instead of being used to it so when it comes to attack you then your ready for it ✅.
I LITERALLY just finished playing through the Order 66 sequence in Fallen Order. It hits just as hard each time when you realize EVERY Jedi who managed to survive has severe PTSD. Some fans are confused by Kenobi's state of mind and lack of "power" in the series but if you felt every person you cared about suddenly die all at once.... It would permanently mess you up. It's no wonder most of them cut themselves off from the Force. Order 66 left them deeply scarred.
I always assumed Yoda kept a close connection to the temple in the force even when he was away from it and before his clones turned on him he felt the attack on the temple and became suspicious
From your description of sensing will and desire, does even a normal level of will and desire cause any kind of background noise in the Force? If so, is it plausible that some of the Jedi realised something was up when the chips kicking in caused this background noise to go quiet?
I'm guessing the Jedi that had a good relationship and friendship with the clones instead of seeing them as just soldiers could sense the betrayal and feel that something was wrong
For the most part that was probably a factor but not entirely cause if that were the case plo koon definitely woulda felt it since he cares about the clones enough to risk his life to save their lives
I can see arrogance being the doom of most Jedi masters during Order 66, Ki-Adi-Mundi and most of the others were way up their own asses, but I have *major issues* with Plo Koon not sensing that HIS OWN clone troopers were betraying him. To me that was just sloppy writing; the writers needed him to die and didn't consider his far greater attunement to the Force.
Just being the one to nitpick that you got one part of the deal concerning a jedi's force senses wrong. A jedi CAN'T turn it on and off (Ashoka even says this in an episode of the clone wars) more accurately they release their awareness into the currents of the force or retract from it. Its more like turning a volume nob up and down, which is why some jedi are more powerful than others. They can release themselves more fully into the force than others can like having a volume nob that can go farther because that particular individual is able to release themselves more deeply.
Not only that but in the Obi-Wan series he literally cut himself off from the force. And ninu booked was released about Obi-Wan and Anakin at the beginning of the Clone Wars, Anakin referenced cutting himself off from the force when he was talking to the youngling who was also doing the same thing. In fact she did it so well that that's how she was found out because there was a force Darkness surrounding her. So yes you can turn the force off so to speak or at least cut yourself off from it completely
Yeup, just look at how far Obi-Wam Kenobi had his force sensitivity turned down when the events of the new series are taken up (ten years after Order 66.)
@@loucifer1777 kind of. She says in game that she can still feel the force, but is actively suppressing the connection. She stated to Cal that when she feels it she 'pushes it back down'. A jedi can't just turn there conection to the force on or off like a light switch, but they can ignore, interfere with, or actively suppress their own connection to it, effectively letting their force perceptions dull to the point of atrophying. It's part of the reason Cal had to go through relearning most of his own powers. He was literally rebuilding his connection to the force.
I think in one of the latest TCW episodes, Ahsoka actually saw visions of Anakin's change to the Dark Side? Maybe that was Anakin himself, I don't remember. But they had went to this planet where spirits of the Force lived and they were informing on various events, mostly revolving around Anakin's being "The Chosen One". I want to say that this was one of the very last seasons of TCW, one of the "newer" seasons, after the show was revived.
Great video as always. Just curious how strong do you think Ezra Bridger from rebels was? I mean he obviously isn't Luke Skywalker level but he seemed pretty powerful especially with what seemed to be a natural affinity to the dark side. Would like if you did a video on this. Have a good one dude
Ezra was powerful, very powerful. I'm not sure they know how powerful they were making him, his connection to animals, his abilities to see the future, his ability to break force shields, he was a beast, his powers would have been close to anakin or Luke respectively. Those powers are only in VERY powerful jedi and he had MULTIPLE of them. Again I think they didn't understand lore , because the fact he had so many was crazy.
His connection to the dark side was because of his childhood suffering, maul, and the sith relics he had contact with. No jedi had so much contact with darkside welders or relics as he did. It was incredibly dangerous, and during the time of the jedi would have never happened. His connections to his friends, his emotions were n8t like those of jedi before him, he had emotional connections deeper then even anakin.
I think a lot more jedi sensed it, and some were on screen. Ki-Adi Mundi pauses because Bacara doesn’t push forward with him, but I think there was a split second where he knew what was going to happen. I’m going to assume a lot of masters sensed it at the temple and sacrificed themselves to give the younglings a chance. Plo Koon probably didnt sense it because he had to focus on piloting his ship. I’m not too sure about the others.
No idea how Jaro Tapal sensed it yet still died to it. You should’ve done more force pushes and showed the inhibitor chip activated clones no mercy. Yoda showed no mercy to the clones and Ahsoka did show a minuscule amount to them by sparing their lives and allowed the ship crash landing to kill them instead
Just a question to anyone who sees this, the footage that shows a Jedi protecting the group of younglings against the 501st, what series did that come from?
Honestly, I think the answer is far more pessimistic... The Jedi had grown decadent and arrogant. To such an extent that they themselves quite frankly were not aware of it. In modern terms, think of it as a licensed doctor in America. Intense study and work for 10 years. Then, their status as respectable, high achievement medical professionals is bestowed upon them. What follows is ZERO requirements to maintain that status. 10, 20, 30, 40 years down the road; perhaps even longer. No legal requirement for them to take a single refresher course to keep their status. How horribly out of touch would a doctor be who trained 30 years ago? Granted, some doctors realize the problem and take the time to educate themselves over the years. But none are _required_ to do so. Now replace "Doctor" with "Jedi Master," and the problem becomes very clear. Same situation. Their sensitivity to the Force withered. To a point they didn't realize it, nor even sense it. And apparently it happened to all but 3 of them.
Every jedi sense it. That's why obi wan had to go change the message Anikan/Vader made. Id argue the reason so many jedi were slayn so easily was they were in the middle of sensing it when they were killed. Trying to make sense of it while also then getting shot at by their own clone troopers
Ahsoka was saved by the hesitation of Rex, and his order to the clones behind her that "No... I'll do it myself." She saw him take out his pistols and stand there aiming at her, while the others briefly held their fire, only because he had ordered them to. She would have been blindsided and executed by all of her clones in unison, just like the other Jedi, if Rex hadn't shielded her with a critical few seconds in which she could assess and react. Rex in turn was saved by the warning from Fives. He knew to be on the lookout for something amounting to a catastrophic posthypnotic command. When it came on, his conscious mind objected, and he felt horrified rather than elated. The chip exercised a crushing power over him, and he couldn't hold out for long, but that precious handful of seconds was just enough to save Ahsoka, and the moment of clarity in which he said "Fives... find him. Fives." was just enough to save himself.
I would argue that some droids have emotions. Threepio definitely experiences fear and R2 sounded sad when Threepio told him, "I don't think he likes you either."
We have them too. Our General, TF-1726, was more than ready to kill his own along with the enemies. There were no "orders" to follow with him. Also, the supervisor Droid, A4-D seemed to feel things as well, such as distress that General Grievous was always losing his fights. Plus he seemed more than happy to order his medics to not use painkillers on patients, AS WELL as give Grievous more pain while repairing him. I feel like aside from the main Droids (as in, ones with names and specific characters, like R2 and 3PO), other Droids aren't given much emotion in the movies compared to the shows. It's kinda just "roger, roger" and blasting things. But even B1s have moments in the animated shows, from the one protesting that there are still other Droids on board an enemy ship (The Clone Wars) to being reactivated and wondering if they won (Bad Batch). It wasn't always just mindless or organized killing.
In Star Wars they call it The Force...in real life in my experience I call it situational awareness. Trained more or less and learn from a very young age to develop that parr of that was from being bullied too. Aware and always on guard of things going on around you whether friendly or not. That is what I chalk it up to why the Jedi were so caught by surprise..that and they trusted the clones far too much. Any one with observation skills can pick up or sense it in the air when something feels off, the instincts kick in and ya can feel it instantly that something is wrong, ot is more than the whole hair standing on end stuff, can feel something is wrong, that there us a threat. Doesn't even have to be very obvious to pick up on it. The Jedi should have been aware ofant threats all around and not becoming so blind and complacent to get mixed up in a war and politics in the first place either.
Awesome video 😀 Order 66 is arguably the most important event in Star Wars. Seems like the only ones who forseen it were jedi whose sense were heightened by their racial abilities or master level jedi with incredibly strong attachments to the force
Good lord Sidius was a calculating man... the fact that he could program living beings in such a way that the jedi couldn't even sense their soon to be betrayal is astonishing. What a brilliantly thought out character in his cunning
I would argue that their intent, the clones, were masked by the fact that they did have an intent to kill because they were in battle against separatists for the most part. It’s like the scene in last Jedi when Kylo struck down Snoke. Most of the Jedi perceived an intent to kill prior to order 66 from the clones, and it was masked to where they couldn’t see that it was directed towards them.
Worth noting that only the top Jedi saw active service. The majority of the Jedi were not warrior caste and found their station in more mundane activities such as farming. Whilst they wouldn’t be much good in a fight, they represented a significant mopping up operation.
I mean. Imagine the soldiers who you fought countless battles with and had been made to follow commands without hesitation suddenly turned and started firing on you. You’d be caught by suprise. Also like he said in the video since this was near the end of the war the Jedi were spread so thin that they never had the chance to mount a true counterattack. It just shows the genius of palpatine of knowing the perfect time to execute order 66 and having one of the most powerful Jedi in the order at the time in anakin fall to the dark side and become his apprentice at the same time.
@@ericnephew7533 um hello? jedi masters? caught by surprise? as for 'spread so thin', another HUGE plothole! palpatine would need multiple big transmitters (nonexistent) in multiple star systems to send that signal to all corners of the galaxy with a delay of hrs/ days/ weeks/ months!
@@zionmarcelo yes, jedi masters, anyone can be caught by surprise especially if you've been pre-conditioned through battle to begin trusting your troops, and those who weren't surprised still had a slim chance as they were absolutely surrounded by dozens if not hundreds of battle hardened clones. Communications have pretty much always been instant in star wars unless there's a jammer, hologram communicators were a thing since the first prequel movie and to say that there aren't specialized Communication equipment made to establish a network within warships isn't a stretch either.
well if by the time of the clone wars jedi training is trash quality then what you wrote is acceptable otherwise they are absolute noobs as portrayed scifi even if fiction still need to have some semblance of logic, instant communication is 'magic' and will not explain the how and where of the order 66 transmission to all corners of the galaxy (a specialized network would have been discovered during obi wan & anakin's investigation)
@@zionmarcelo yes, it's unattainable communication speeds, its a universe of space wizards, suspension of disbelief is sometimes you kinda have to have. Then the first thing, the jedi have fallen from grace significantly since their last war which was 3.5 thousand years prior, they're not up to snuff to something like their predecessors except for the major master jedi lime Yoda, Anakin and Windu
I always just took it from Episode III that Yoda sensed the death of so many Jedi because if his strong connection to the force and was meant to be the only one to do so, and then they decided to add it to Fallen Order and Clone Wars simply for some dramatic effect.
I have a question though, I'm confused. I just watched Episode 3 and Anakin learns from Padme that she is pregnant AFTER he saves the chancellor, but in Clone Wars season 7, he obviously knows before even that as shown in episode 2. Unless he's just oblivious of the fact that Padme looks pregnant as they zoom out as the two of them hold hands. Is there any clarification about this out there?
If we presume that all clones received their orders simultaneously, it's likely that by the time most Jedi would have sensed the disturbance in the force, their clone troopers would have already been attacking them. As for why they didn't see it coming before, it can be hand waved by saying that Palpatine was "clouding their judgement" or whatever
There is a big difference in sensing something is wrong, and knowing what it is and how to react. Since this was a planned simultaneous attack across the galaxy, by the time the first few are killed and the force has a disturbance in it, the rest are already being fired upon. As great as Yoda may be, I would guess that it was more that the clones near him took a few seconds longer to fire. That gave him time to react. Other who where able to fight back may have also benefited from such a delay and having a second or two in which to react. You can ascribe to the Jedi all the supernatural reflexes and speed you want. But, they still need time to react. assuming that the ripples in to force are instantaneous, a bunch of jedi die with out any warning before those ripples even happen, and then once they do and are felt, you have to process what it is, and then react to it. So more die in the seconds after the disturbance as they basically go "holy shit, a bunch of Jedi just died". A new wave of disturbances as those still alive try to figure out why, and what to do. More disturbance as another round are killed in that moment of comprehension. And now all the ones who fight back in some way.... successful or not.... make thier moves. My point those that survived, did not do so only because of the force, but because of luck as well, that the clones around them where a step or two behind in execution of order 66. Some like Obi-Wan the clones just missed (que a tonne of storm tropper jokes). Yes skill, yes warning from the force. But a huge chunk of luck too.
It makes perfect sense since that is why the emperor waited until the right moment when none of the jedi would pick up on the betrayal. Some were lucky to escape like vos, yoda & kenobi. Others not so much.
Something that confuses me is in the bad batch show, wrecker says he couldn't stop it from happening and that he was trying really hard. So while I can understand the jedi not being able to sense malice from the clones, they should have been able to sense the sudden shift and mental turmoil all the clones were suddenly in. The clones didn't just cease to exist and become droids, they were trapped in their own bodies, conscious but unable to enact their will probably mentally crying out for their jedi friends.
It’s not shocking that only 3 Jedi sensed the tragedy order 66 brought. Ahsoka’s own Jedi master had turned to the dark side, and she sensed not just his fall but the death of mace windu cuz of her former master’s betrayal. Yoda sensing the death of so many of his fellow Jedi not only took him by surprise but also broke his heart. Master Jaro Topal could only feel the disturbance with a massive loss of life as a result of it. These three were the only ones who felt the order begin could only do so because unlike the rest of the Jedi, their awareness of the force was not clouded by constant distraction like the current battles taking place at the time of the order’s execution.
It may be something simpler. The Jedi we see sense the betrayal of the clones were not actively engaged in combat. So the desire or intent to kill would have been out of place. They sensed the dark side intent, expanded their awareness and noticed the clones approaching in a malicious manner. The ones we know fell were surrounded by combat and would not have been able to differentiate the aggressive intentions of the clones to attack the droid enemies or to attack the Jedi themselves.
With the Plans of the Dark side that was Slow and Insidious attack upon the Light side that encouraged the Ego of the Light sides belief that it is superior to the Dark side, that they would be able to Sense the Dark side. Palpatine was able to Rise to Power in the shadows and gain More power of the Dark side ( which any master needs is time to gain Power) . I think the Dark Master was able to Cloud the Light side so Much, that they Never Saw It Coming. Remember he was Able to Make Anakin( the Most Powerful Jedi) visions ( which was shrouded in Black) see his his wife's Death, all the Details of why she was dying were Darkened out, thus Palpatine's Power!
I want to see a story of a jedi mid combat using the force to see moments into the future around them catch on to the sudden trooper attack and counter it. (I read a book that followed a Temple survivor and spoke in detail about various uses of the force, including that. He uses it to escape stormtroopers via a soon to pass outside speeder.
Amazing and it’s little funny that non human aliens like yoda,Ashoka and Cale master from Star Wars Jedi fallen order that senses what going on with order 66 too.
To my memory, wasn't it the case that they DID sense it? But it was all too sudden and unexpected, while like you mentioned, they also were focused on other pressing matters at hand. Like a sudden wave of lethal intent just slammed into them and they did not have time to process it because it was instantaneous. In the scenes all the Jedi look back at their clones with a "what's going on?" perplexed look since they felt this wave of evil just hit them out of nowhere. Then the clones opened fire.
If you watch closely nearly every singe Jedi sensed it coming, the thing was that it went from completely normal to execute order 66. The danger appeared within seconds and by then a lot of Jedi were already surrounded
More felt it than 3. Windu would have but he was "dead". Ahsoka felt it due to her connection to Anakin. Yoda felt it because his link to all lifeforms in the force is powerful. Ki-Adi would have but was too focused on his fight (and was one of the first deaths) Shaak-Ti felt it but didn't know what it was until Anakin killed her. Plo Koon was busy piloting or he would have felt it.
in that video game, cal's master realizes it only seconds before they attempt to kill him. I always figured they all sensed it but couldn't do anything to stop it.
I would guess a big part is that: there wasn’t really premeditation, it was just when they got the order… and more importantly, there likely wasn’t any malice in most of the clones. Depends who they were turning on and how well they were treated.
Add to it the fact that the clone troopers share the talents and traits of the best bounty hunter of that time, Jango Fett. Fett proved his talents and skills as a bounty hunter by killing 7 Jedis. So even if the Jedis were able to feel the betrayal beforehand, they could not possibly defeat 5+ clone troopers at the same time.
While he wasn't a Jedi, Maul was clearly able to sense that something vastly important was about to happen, although he didn't know what exactly, as he was super fearful in the last season of Clone Wars. And he too felt Anakin's fall to the dark side, though mostly felt Sidious's actions, due to his prior connection with Sidious
I feel like Maul figured it out through sheer Intelligence imo.
@@Moe_Lester96he definitely sensed it but also probably used his wits to piece what was happening together
@@Moe_Lester96 maul already knew at least a part of sidous' plans
@@pankie1629 Plan, not plans.
I love Maul, he’s my favorite “sith” despite being more of a sith assassin than a Sith Lord. Dooku is very close, but I love Maul in the animated series. I just find it amazing how they took “oh this guy looks bad ass” and made him into so much more. I almost wish Ashoka could have redeemed him. I understand she couldn’t, as 50 years of dark side influence is hard to beat when it was all he ever knew.
There were probably others that sensed it. It’s just those were the 3 jedi we saw that sensed it
I thought the same thing
True. And most of the Jedi we see die in ROTS were in the middle of fights. If they did sense danger they probably thought It was the dangers from the enemies Infront of them rather than the dangers from the "allies" behind them.
Even ayla secure didnt see it coming
The Bad Batch shows Depa Bilaba making that “something’s not right” face right as her CC receives the Order. Not the intensity of pain that Yoda and Ahsoka experience, but more visible awareness than most of the others (like Aylaa and Ki Adi Mundi) showed. Since we can’t see Plo Koon’s face and he’s already leading a dog fight at the time Warthog receives the Order, it’s really hard to say with him.
Idk. It's a good question even obi wan didn't sense anything or other members of the council like plo koon or mundi
That jedi master in fallen order who trained cere saw it coming. Mace windu also sensed it “i sense a plot to destroy the jedi” he just died before it happened. Yoda obviously knew. Ahsoka felt something off with rex and only had time to process what was happening because of rexs hesitation. She did feel anakins fall but had little idea of what actually happened.
eno cordova is the name of cere's master youre looking for :)
@@CT-Raft think they meanr cal's master
@@ML-sc3pt jaro tapal did not train cere, eno cordova did
@@CT-Raft I'm saying tapal did sense it coming though...
@@ML-sc3pt Tapal only sensed it when it was happening.
My head cannon was they all could sense it because they weren't doing anything requiring full focus. Yoda was observing the battle, ahsoka was standing in her ship relaxing, and in the fallen order both of them were just having a talk. All The other Jedi shown were in the middle of a battle and distracted.
In kenobi's defense.
He was basically the first jedi targeted in order 66 so he wouldn't have felt it.
Yoda sensed the overall mass killing of the Jedi because he wss literally the strongest Jedi ever.
I believe Cal's master was also able to sense the mass killings because his species has been shown to have strong spirituality, foresight and intuition. Plus he was a Jedi so those innate abilities became even more enhanced.
And yea, Ahsoka sensed Anakin's fall to the Dark side. Not Order 66 happening itself.
he wasnt THE STRONGEST.. qui gon in lore matched yodas abilities in the force and lightsaber skills
Anakin was the strongest jedi ever
@@kam-bf9qf Yes! And Qui Gone wasn't alive during order 66
@@MB-sj2yu And he was Sith when order 66 happened
@@kam-bf9qf the term “strongest” is subjective with Jedi, as to be a Jedi master you have to be attuned with the force, force intuition is the primary skill that allows a padawan to become a Jedi master... Lightsaber skills and force abilities are all subjective to the Jedi themselves...
I always thought Kenobi could sense Palpatine and his plot. First scene in Phantom Menace, Kenobi told Qui-Gon that he “felt something elusive…something elsewhere”. Qui-Gon shot it down immediately. Yoda, who was more of a teacher, probably would have probed more and possibly outed Palpatine a lot sooner, despite his force ability to masked his force abilities. 🤷🏽♂️
Yoda as well (shown in the "Clone Wars" series) already knew for a fact that this dark time was coming.
In AOTC Dooku literally tells Kenobi the plot so he was also as naive as the rest of the order
Yoda has been much more dumbass in the overall clone affair than anyone else. He has way more responsibility as well.
@@JBones seems Dooku like Ventress coulda easily been made to switch sides a second time provided the Jedi had the capacity to renew his Faith in the Order he felt forced to turn his back on. Since Dooku never fell ironically quite as far as Anakin did.
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One more thing about Ashoka I believe it was she really have strong connection with the clones.
So when order 66 given she realizes something is of with them.
+Rex holding back is proof that even if the clones was actually behave like robots for some of them inside them thay feel every moment trapped to there on a body they didn't control any more for someone like Ashoka so connect with them in personal level is definitely something she can Sense.
That, and with Anakin, who was literally at the center of it all.
@@damaskholdings9140 yes! you correct in this.
Ashoka definitely don't felt the order 66
The thing is.
Even if Ashoka wasn't Force sensitive she was so close with them to sense something is off.
With her skill in the force definitely understand something is happening with them.
Even if in a basic instinctive level this was enough to buy some second and stay alive.
It helped Rex knew what Fives was warning him about before he was killed
imo the clones (especially rex) held back because ahsoka wasnt technically a jedi since she left the order. but then they still called here Commander Tano so they were really confused
Imagine the Amount of Disturbances in the force Darth Nhilus must have created. Even Revan had at least one disturbance to his name.
In the original Knights of the Old Republic video game this happens. It was mind blowing. If you could find a way to play it, you'd still enjoy in 2022.
@@foxtrotekko-kyngkryss1124 When in the game does it happen?
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@@Yapftl Unfortunately Im a Playstation guy. Revan caused a disturbance in the force before and afyer the mind wipe. Yoda sensed it as well as others. The final point where he chooses light or dark is a crux in the force as well.
Imagine what the last moments were like for some of the Jedi right after the order went through? Being aware of the emotions of your surrounding allies at the time whether it was stress, determination, fear, anxiety, etc. and then suddenly all that just disappears and for just a moment you feel a hundred eyes looking at you, like being in a crowded room with everyone talking and then they all simultaneously go quiet and stare at you.
Along with the video explanations I'd add that it was not so easy to separate the deaths of Jedi via clones from all the deaths that were occurring due the war itself. In fact, as gained from other Star Wars lore sources, part of the Sith plan was to surround the Jedi with so much death that they could not, or at least would have incredible difficulty, isolating the sources of the dark feelings that surround death, be those feelings from victim or perpetrator.
I think they could sense the deaths of the Jedi more keenly as the Force is redistributed when they die, most about the same time, the sudden shift of the Force at the same time knocking their Force balance off balance, disturbed, many died knowing something was wrong but not being able to pin-point the source, the clones.
@@adrianburchell8075 I can see that. Even Yoda, despite feeling the pains/losses/shifts in the Force, he did hesitate and didn't react lethally-defensive until he was actually being set upon by the troopers behind him. Also, Yoda wasn't surrounded, per say, as so many other Jedi actually were. It was only two clones and two wookies nearby when the order went out.
More than anything this is why I think the war was so critical for Palpatine. The war lead to several jedi turning to the dark side. There was death and chaos everywhere. Yoda and mace even talked about how their ability to use the force was diminished. Palpatine could have used politics and senate corruption without the war to get power and become emperor. What he needed was the devastating effect of the clone wars on the jedis senses.
I have pondered this, and drew the same conclusions. I would add that some Jedi would have sensed the total loss of emotion from the clone troopers. Those really in tune with their command would have been sensing their troops' emotions like any good troop commander. The sudden absence of individual thought would be akin to death. But all of this is moot. The attacks and changes were simply so instantaneous not even most jedi masters had enough time to react. They probably all felt it while simultaneously the sucker punch blaster fire was already in the air.
I was thinking the same thing, that the Jedi would sense the sudden absence of the clones’ emotional presence
the three jedi that sensed werent preoccupied with the battle at that time n were in a more relaxed state of mind. ahsoka was on a ship(IIRC), jaro tapal was with cal training and yoda wasnt on the field but experienced.
I like to think a few sensed Order 66 being carried out because the signal took time to spread throughout galactic space. So those troopers further away hadn't received the kill order yet. Or, were just receiving it while others had completed it.
Realistically though the Republic transmissions would still have only taken a matter of minutes. It's still bad storytelling that the Jedi Temple wasn't already on guard when Anakin arrived, and upon his entry to the Temple their senses would have already sensed the disturbance and known other Jedi were being massacred. I think they did a crap job on making the taking of the Temple seem easy.
@@chrisstowell484 I think this is more of an issue of perspective. Operation Nightfall was occurring simultaneously with Order 66. Vader was already on his way to the temple and beginning the massacre while Palpatine was calling out to the clone leaders
@@Earthquaker Palpatine's communication was immediately after Anakin left the room. Anakin had to contact the 501st, Assemble them, surround the perimeter to attempt to stop any escape, and then he began his assault. We're talking at least fifteen minutes and probably closer to a half hour. With all the Jedi in the Temple it's highly unlikely they wouldn't have sensed massive numbers of the Jedi Council being killed relatively close together. With what we know of the Force it's highly unlikely the Jedi at the Temple wouldn't have known. Whether you go with Shaak Ti dying by Grievous or in the Meditation Chamber. It's unlikely that whatever Masters that remained in the Temple at the time would have sensed it, and a great many of knights, guardians, and even some padawans depending on their individual strength of the Force. All I'm saying is the storytelling has rather sucked in congruity with the power of the Force witnessed thus far from The Old Republic to Mortis, to the Last Skywalker. It could have been done better and more realistic with the Force and still had the Clone's surprise more than effective enough for a rage filled Anakin to take the Temple. Just saying I think Jocasta and other's would have already left and possibly returned once by the time Anakin arrived. Especially with their secret passages a Padawn/Knight who rarely spent major periods of time AT the Temple because he was deep in the midst of the Clone Wars, would hardly have necessarily known or had access too. As a child I'm sure he snooped around and knew some. But he obviously didn't know them all
Great video. I always thought most of the Jedi didn't sense it because they were "in the moment" as in ready for battle against the Separatists. Valid point about the order going out that took away the will of the clones from them and essentially turned them into something akin to droids. As you said, Jedi can sense droids being there but not their intentions, and with the Jedi's intentions being on what they were doing wouldn't have sensed the impending betrayal. Ahsoka had such a strong connection with her Jedi master, Anakin, that she felt his turn to the dark side which alerted her something was up. Yoda had such a strong connection withthe force that he felt what happened to the other Jedi.
The Jedi who sensed the betrayal were closer to their troops or were extremely powerful in the force. Some of the Jedi saw the troops as just things to use so they weren't close enough to them to get a feeling off them.
No Eno Cordova also sensed it, we find that out in the final recording in bd1 on Illum
This is so well written, @6:36
"... it was a twofold deception. Palpatine had waited until the Jedi were so spread thin, that they would be left completely vulnerable. Surrounded by their own executors before he called upon the dreaded order 66. The timing hadn't been more perfect, and the result hadn't been more effective."
I’m pretty sure Kirak Infil'a said he felt the purge when he and Vader battled in the comics
I believe the clones had a sense of duty when the control chips were enforced, the same sense of duty the Jedi had become used to over the course of the war, the ones who detected betrayal at the last moment sensed "kill" from the clones and reacted.
Moral of the story: never let anyone put a microchip in you.
We already let them assign a social security number, car tag, title, deed to land.. like when watching the bad batch I was like these galactic codes everyone is getting assigned we already have. The dark side already won in our worlc
Mace Windu learned the hard and valuable lesson and decided to take a page out of Sidious book. That movie is called The Kingsman.
@@vaevictis5178the freemasons*
Seeing how Yoda knew what was going to happen and the fall of the Jedi order. He should sense danger from the clones.
So basically those who died first didn't sense it
But those who died/were targeter later sensed it because of the deaths of those who died first.
The more deaths, the more the remaining Jedi senses it.
Alot of the masters also were mid conflict as well, Yoda, Ahoska and Cal's Master were just chilling (at the time)
Chilling I was
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That last pic of Anakin choking the youngling as the darkest pic I’ve ever seen especially with the other younglings head cut off just beside them
That Anakin artwork at the end 😳 jeebus crust that was brutal
Remember the force also needed this to happen to come into balance due to the jedi. What I think happened is the force chose a select few individuals that could recognize the flaws in what was, and grow moving forward to teach the next generation, as well as chosing those who could actually survive. The force then warned those select individuals.
Great video! But it wasn't only 3 Jedi that sensed all the killing and the Dark Side (Ahsoka specially), I know a case of a Jedi called Kirak Infil'a (yes, it's Canon) who left the order (not sure he can be considered one) many years ago before the order 66. He appears on the comic "Darth Vader Dark Lord of the Sith". When Darth Vader found him a few moments after "Revenge of the Sith" he said he felt "the death of his brothers" (the Jedi of course).
I understand what you're saying, but the comics and novels are not considered canon by Disney. Cause they crapped on them on multiple occasions. How Kanan Jarrus survived order 66, for instance.
@@damaskholdings9140 it’s crazy that Dave said it’s cause they are both black
@@jakeflint4018 ya Filoni said the crime rate dropped by 50 percent when made died lol 😂
@@stevensole1909 That's just sad it's still disney-made. Novels don't give as much money as the movies and series, I guess? We're doomed!
He wasn’t there, he was in self-imposed exile without any clones around them
I actually don't think the clones didn't have emotions or intentions during order 66. When you see the clone kill a Jedi master during the clone wars when a chip defected earlier than planned, that clone had murderous (though confusing) murmurings. Clones aren't droids but are living beings. Even if they're controlled, they're emotions will be used in the process. I think the Jedi not sensing their intentions was just because many were in the heat of war and didn't have a second to notice the quick change.
Eno cordova sensed it months before it happened, that's the entire reason he hid the holocron that Cal hunted down.
There were many more Jedi who sensed Order 66 when it was happening & far before it happened but most of them were to slow to react to it in time 🤷🏾♂️.
Poor teaching , poor leadership & a poor mentor in Yoda is vastly responsible for this.
He taught the Jedi of his order to play off the DarkSide , ignore it or just stay completely away from it instead of being used to it so when it comes to attack you then your ready for it ✅.
Cordova straight up had a premonition of it. That should count
Ashoka should’ve removed more of her squads chips since she was stunning them
I LITERALLY just finished playing through the Order 66 sequence in Fallen Order. It hits just as hard each time when you realize EVERY Jedi who managed to survive has severe PTSD. Some fans are confused by Kenobi's state of mind and lack of "power" in the series but if you felt every person you cared about suddenly die all at once.... It would permanently mess you up. It's no wonder most of them cut themselves off from the Force. Order 66 left them deeply scarred.
We need more info about Jaro Tapal tbh.. he actually seems like he could be one of the more powerful Jedi Masters in the order
I always assumed Yoda kept a close connection to the temple in the force even when he was away from it and before his clones turned on him he felt the attack on the temple and became suspicious
From your description of sensing will and desire, does even a normal level of will and desire cause any kind of background noise in the Force? If so, is it plausible that some of the Jedi realised something was up when the chips kicking in caused this background noise to go quiet?
I'm guessing the Jedi that had a good relationship and friendship with the clones instead of seeing them as just soldiers could sense the betrayal and feel that something was wrong
For the most part that was probably a factor but not entirely cause if that were the case plo koon definitely woulda felt it since he cares about the clones enough to risk his life to save their lives
As always, genuinely thought out and delivered. Thanks for solid and true content. As always
I can see arrogance being the doom of most Jedi masters during Order 66, Ki-Adi-Mundi and most of the others were way up their own asses, but I have *major issues* with Plo Koon not sensing that HIS OWN clone troopers were betraying him. To me that was just sloppy writing; the writers needed him to die and didn't consider his far greater attunement to the Force.
About the plot and stuff, I agreed. But saying that couldn't sense it? I disagree. Of course he could sense the disturbance in the force.
Just being the one to nitpick that you got one part of the deal concerning a jedi's force senses wrong. A jedi CAN'T turn it on and off (Ashoka even says this in an episode of the clone wars) more accurately they release their awareness into the currents of the force or retract from it. Its more like turning a volume nob up and down, which is why some jedi are more powerful than others. They can release themselves more fully into the force than others can like having a volume nob that can go farther because that particular individual is able to release themselves more deeply.
Makes sense...but what did Luke did in the force awakenes ?
Not only that but in the Obi-Wan series he literally cut himself off from the force. And ninu booked was released about Obi-Wan and Anakin at the beginning of the Clone Wars, Anakin referenced cutting himself off from the force when he was talking to the youngling who was also doing the same thing. In fact she did it so well that that's how she was found out because there was a force Darkness surrounding her.
So yes you can turn the force off so to speak or at least cut yourself off from it completely
Yeup, just look at how far Obi-Wam Kenobi had his force sensitivity turned down when the events of the new series are taken up (ten years after Order 66.)
Doesn't Cere Junda cut herself off from the force too? I haven't completed JFO yet though
@@loucifer1777 kind of. She says in game that she can still feel the force, but is actively suppressing the connection. She stated to Cal that when she feels it she 'pushes it back down'. A jedi can't just turn there conection to the force on or off like a light switch, but they can ignore, interfere with, or actively suppress their own connection to it, effectively letting their force perceptions dull to the point of atrophying. It's part of the reason Cal had to go through relearning most of his own powers. He was literally rebuilding his connection to the force.
Agree Ashoka mostly felt it as she was so close to anakin and was intune with his emotions
I think in one of the latest TCW episodes, Ahsoka actually saw visions of Anakin's change to the Dark Side?
Maybe that was Anakin himself, I don't remember.
But they had went to this planet where spirits of the Force lived and they were informing on various events, mostly revolving around Anakin's being "The Chosen One".
I want to say that this was one of the very last seasons of TCW, one of the "newer" seasons, after the show was revived.
Master depa bilaba (I think that’s how you spell her name) aka Caleb’s master also Kinna sensed it in the bad batch
Great video as always. Just curious how strong do you think Ezra Bridger from rebels was? I mean he obviously isn't Luke Skywalker level but he seemed pretty powerful especially with what seemed to be a natural affinity to the dark side. Would like if you did a video on this. Have a good one dude
Probably half the skill of S1 GI and Kanan
As someone comment to me recently, with his Force connection to animals he's on the level of a Disney Princess.
Ezra was powerful, very powerful. I'm not sure they know how powerful they were making him, his connection to animals, his abilities to see the future, his ability to break force shields, he was a beast, his powers would have been close to anakin or Luke respectively. Those powers are only in VERY powerful jedi and he had MULTIPLE of them. Again I think they didn't understand lore , because the fact he had so many was crazy.
His connection to the dark side was because of his childhood suffering, maul, and the sith relics he had contact with. No jedi had so much contact with darkside welders or relics as he did. It was incredibly dangerous, and during the time of the jedi would have never happened. His connections to his friends, his emotions were n8t like those of jedi before him, he had emotional connections deeper then even anakin.
I would guess his potential on par with Ashoka’s potential. Maybe a little weaker
In a way you could also say master depobilaba. (Kannans master) she felt it but not to the level of either.
no one else gonna mention the decapitated kid in the foreground of the aniken drawing??
Would love to see a vid of which clones resisted Order 66 and how if any , appreciate the work bro , keep it up 👍
I think a lot more jedi sensed it, and some were on screen. Ki-Adi Mundi pauses because Bacara doesn’t push forward with him, but I think there was a split second where he knew what was going to happen. I’m going to assume a lot of masters sensed it at the temple and sacrificed themselves to give the younglings a chance. Plo Koon probably didnt sense it because he had to focus on piloting his ship. I’m not too sure about the others.
If I'm not mistaken plo koon sensed it too because he was doing those maneuvers trying to dodge before Palatine told his closes about order 66
No idea how Jaro Tapal sensed it yet still died to it. You should’ve done more force pushes and showed the inhibitor chip activated clones no mercy. Yoda showed no mercy to the clones and Ahsoka did show a minuscule amount to them by sparing their lives and allowed the ship crash landing to kill them instead
This actually answers my question as to how the Clones were able to wipe out nearly all of the Jedi. Thank you
Just a question to anyone who sees this, the footage that shows a Jedi protecting the group of younglings against the 501st, what series did that come from?
Honestly, I think the answer is far more pessimistic... The Jedi had grown decadent and arrogant. To such an extent that they themselves quite frankly were not aware of it. In modern terms, think of it as a licensed doctor in America. Intense study and work for 10 years. Then, their status as respectable, high achievement medical professionals is bestowed upon them. What follows is ZERO requirements to maintain that status.
10, 20, 30, 40 years down the road; perhaps even longer. No legal requirement for them to take a single refresher course to keep their status. How horribly out of touch would a doctor be who trained 30 years ago? Granted, some doctors realize the problem and take the time to educate themselves over the years. But none are _required_ to do so. Now replace "Doctor" with "Jedi Master," and the problem becomes very clear. Same situation. Their sensitivity to the Force withered. To a point they didn't realize it, nor even sense it. And apparently it happened to all but 3 of them.
As Ridick said in 2013 Riddick movie "Its always a punch you dont see coming that puts you down".
Every jedi sense it. That's why obi wan had to go change the message Anikan/Vader made.
Id argue the reason so many jedi were slayn so easily was they were in the middle of sensing it when they were killed. Trying to make sense of it while also then getting shot at by their own clone troopers
Ahsoka was saved by the hesitation of Rex, and his order to the clones behind her that "No... I'll do it myself." She saw him take out his pistols and stand there aiming at her, while the others briefly held their fire, only because he had ordered them to. She would have been blindsided and executed by all of her clones in unison, just like the other Jedi, if Rex hadn't shielded her with a critical few seconds in which she could assess and react.
Rex in turn was saved by the warning from Fives. He knew to be on the lookout for something amounting to a catastrophic posthypnotic command. When it came on, his conscious mind objected, and he felt horrified rather than elated. The chip exercised a crushing power over him, and he couldn't hold out for long, but that precious handful of seconds was just enough to save Ahsoka, and the moment of clarity in which he said "Fives... find him. Fives." was just enough to save himself.
It was the force overcorrecting the balance. The lightside had been in charge so long that when the pendulum swung the other way, it was massive.
I would argue that some droids have emotions. Threepio definitely experiences fear and R2 sounded sad when Threepio told him, "I don't think he likes you either."
We have them too.
Our General, TF-1726, was more than ready to kill his own along with the enemies. There were no "orders" to follow with him.
Also, the supervisor Droid, A4-D seemed to feel things as well, such as distress that General Grievous was always losing his fights. Plus he seemed more than happy to order his medics to not use painkillers on patients, AS WELL as give Grievous more pain while repairing him.
I feel like aside from the main Droids (as in, ones with names and specific characters, like R2 and 3PO), other Droids aren't given much emotion in the movies compared to the shows. It's kinda just "roger, roger" and blasting things.
But even B1s have moments in the animated shows, from the one protesting that there are still other Droids on board an enemy ship (The Clone Wars) to being reactivated and wondering if they won (Bad Batch). It wasn't always just mindless or organized killing.
In Star Wars they call it The Force...in real life in my experience I call it situational awareness. Trained more or less and learn from a very young age to develop that parr of that was from being bullied too. Aware and always on guard of things going on around you whether friendly or not. That is what I chalk it up to why the Jedi were so caught by surprise..that and they trusted the clones far too much. Any one with observation skills can pick up or sense it in the air when something feels off, the instincts kick in and ya can feel it instantly that something is wrong, ot is more than the whole hair standing on end stuff, can feel something is wrong, that there us a threat. Doesn't even have to be very obvious to pick up on it. The Jedi should have been aware ofant threats all around and not becoming so blind and complacent to get mixed up in a war and politics in the first place either.
Awesome video 😀 Order 66 is arguably the most important event in Star Wars. Seems like the only ones who forseen it were jedi whose sense were heightened by their racial abilities or master level jedi with incredibly strong attachments to the force
Out of 20,000 Jedi,Yoda,Topal,and Ahsoka sense Order 66 (that we know of so far) these Jedi are legendary
Good lord Sidius was a calculating man... the fact that he could program living beings in such a way that the jedi couldn't even sense their soon to be betrayal is astonishing. What a brilliantly thought out character in his cunning
I would argue that their intent, the clones, were masked by the fact that they did have an intent to kill because they were in battle against separatists for the most part. It’s like the scene in last Jedi when Kylo struck down Snoke. Most of the Jedi perceived an intent to kill prior to order 66 from the clones, and it was masked to where they couldn’t see that it was directed towards them.
Worth noting that only the top Jedi saw active service. The majority of the Jedi were not warrior caste and found their station in more mundane activities such as farming. Whilst they wouldn’t be much good in a fight, they represented a significant mopping up operation.
They weren't the only ones, Kanan's master sensed it as well and warned him to run.
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it's actually a HUGE plothole that nobody has pointed out, like how these jedi masters suddenly became noobs with order 66
I mean. Imagine the soldiers who you fought countless battles with and had been made to follow commands without hesitation suddenly turned and started firing on you. You’d be caught by suprise. Also like he said in the video since this was near the end of the war the Jedi were spread so thin that they never had the chance to mount a true counterattack. It just shows the genius of palpatine of knowing the perfect time to execute order 66 and having one of the most powerful Jedi in the order at the time in anakin fall to the dark side and become his apprentice at the same time.
@@ericnephew7533 um hello? jedi masters? caught by surprise? as for 'spread so thin', another HUGE plothole! palpatine would need multiple big transmitters (nonexistent) in multiple star systems to send that signal to all corners of the galaxy with a delay of hrs/ days/ weeks/ months!
@@zionmarcelo yes, jedi masters, anyone can be caught by surprise especially if you've been pre-conditioned through battle to begin trusting your troops, and those who weren't surprised still had a slim chance as they were absolutely surrounded by dozens if not hundreds of battle hardened clones.
Communications have pretty much always been instant in star wars unless there's a jammer, hologram communicators were a thing since the first prequel movie and to say that there aren't specialized Communication equipment made to establish a network within warships isn't a stretch either.
well if by the time of the clone wars jedi training is trash quality then what you wrote is acceptable otherwise they are absolute noobs as portrayed
scifi even if fiction still need to have some semblance of logic, instant communication is 'magic' and will not explain the how and where of the order 66 transmission to all corners of the galaxy (a specialized network would have been discovered during obi wan & anakin's investigation)
@@zionmarcelo yes, it's unattainable communication speeds, its a universe of space wizards, suspension of disbelief is sometimes you kinda have to have.
Then the first thing, the jedi have fallen from grace significantly since their last war which was 3.5 thousand years prior, they're not up to snuff to something like their predecessors except for the major master jedi lime Yoda, Anakin and Windu
I had always thought that jaro tapal seemed more powerful to be able to sense order 66 but I didn’t realise how uncommon Jedi sensing order 66 was
I hope we get to see more flashbacks to Jaro Tapal in Jedi Survivor, definitely one of the coolest looking Jedi Masters.
I've never seen someone explain this so well
Damn, that illustration of Anakin killing the younglings... First time I've ever seen that.
Glad I Subcribed. THanks man, love all the lore details bro.
Huh i actually never thought about that 🤔. Seeing yoda's reaction always makes me sad
I always just took it from Episode III that Yoda sensed the death of so many Jedi because if his strong connection to the force and was meant to be the only one to do so, and then they decided to add it to Fallen Order and Clone Wars simply for some dramatic effect.
Pong Krell and Sifo Dyas sensed the fall of the Jedi order way before it happened.
I have a question though, I'm confused. I just watched Episode 3 and Anakin learns from Padme that she is pregnant AFTER he saves the chancellor, but in Clone Wars season 7, he obviously knows before even that as shown in episode 2. Unless he's just oblivious of the fact that Padme looks pregnant as they zoom out as the two of them hold hands. Is there any clarification about this out there?
i know what you mean. i don’t think she looks THAT pregnant. he might’ve not known
Always love the vids!
7:00 I never needed to see that but thanks
If we presume that all clones received their orders simultaneously, it's likely that by the time most Jedi would have sensed the disturbance in the force, their clone troopers would have already been attacking them. As for why they didn't see it coming before, it can be hand waved by saying that Palpatine was "clouding their judgement" or whatever
There is a big difference in sensing something is wrong, and knowing what it is and how to react. Since this was a planned simultaneous attack across the galaxy, by the time the first few are killed and the force has a disturbance in it, the rest are already being fired upon. As great as Yoda may be, I would guess that it was more that the clones near him took a few seconds longer to fire. That gave him time to react. Other who where able to fight back may have also benefited from such a delay and having a second or two in which to react. You can ascribe to the Jedi all the supernatural reflexes and speed you want. But, they still need time to react. assuming that the ripples in to force are instantaneous, a bunch of jedi die with out any warning before those ripples even happen, and then once they do and are felt, you have to process what it is, and then react to it. So more die in the seconds after the disturbance as they basically go "holy shit, a bunch of Jedi just died". A new wave of disturbances as those still alive try to figure out why, and what to do. More disturbance as another round are killed in that moment of comprehension. And now all the ones who fight back in some way.... successful or not.... make thier moves. My point those that survived, did not do so only because of the force, but because of luck as well, that the clones around them where a step or two behind in execution of order 66. Some like Obi-Wan the clones just missed (que a tonne of storm tropper jokes). Yes skill, yes warning from the force. But a huge chunk of luck too.
It makes perfect sense since that is why the emperor waited until the right moment when none of the jedi would pick up on the betrayal. Some were lucky to escape like vos, yoda & kenobi. Others not so much.
Well done video as always
Something that confuses me is in the bad batch show, wrecker says he couldn't stop it from happening and that he was trying really hard. So while I can understand the jedi not being able to sense malice from the clones, they should have been able to sense the sudden shift and mental turmoil all the clones were suddenly in. The clones didn't just cease to exist and become droids, they were trapped in their own bodies, conscious but unable to enact their will probably mentally crying out for their jedi friends.
It’s not shocking that only 3 Jedi sensed the tragedy order 66 brought. Ahsoka’s own Jedi master had turned to the dark side, and she sensed not just his fall but the death of mace windu cuz of her former master’s betrayal. Yoda sensing the death of so many of his fellow Jedi not only took him by surprise but also broke his heart. Master Jaro Topal could only feel the disturbance with a massive loss of life as a result of it. These three were the only ones who felt the order begin could only do so because unlike the rest of the Jedi, their awareness of the force was not clouded by constant distraction like the current battles taking place at the time of the order’s execution.
It may be something simpler. The Jedi we see sense the betrayal of the clones were not actively engaged in combat. So the desire or intent to kill would have been out of place. They sensed the dark side intent, expanded their awareness and noticed the clones approaching in a malicious manner. The ones we know fell were surrounded by combat and would not have been able to differentiate the aggressive intentions of the clones to attack the droid enemies or to attack the Jedi themselves.
With the Plans of the Dark side that was Slow and Insidious attack upon the Light side that encouraged the Ego of the Light sides belief that it is superior to the Dark side, that they would be able to Sense the Dark side. Palpatine was able to Rise to Power in the shadows and gain More power of the Dark side ( which any master needs is time to gain Power) . I think the Dark Master was able to Cloud the Light side so Much, that they Never Saw It Coming. Remember he was Able to Make Anakin( the Most Powerful Jedi) visions ( which was shrouded in Black) see his his wife's Death, all the Details of why she was dying were Darkened out, thus Palpatine's Power!
I want to see a story of a jedi mid combat using the force to see moments into the future around them catch on to the sudden trooper attack and counter it. (I read a book that followed a Temple survivor and spoke in detail about various uses of the force, including that. He uses it to escape stormtroopers via a soon to pass outside speeder.
Damn that picture of anakin killing the younglings was brutal
Amazing and it’s little funny that non human aliens like yoda,Ashoka and Cale master from Star Wars Jedi fallen order that senses what going on with order 66 too.
Great explanation!
To my memory, wasn't it the case that they DID sense it? But it was all too sudden and unexpected, while like you mentioned, they also were focused on other pressing matters at hand.
Like a sudden wave of lethal intent just slammed into them and they did not have time to process it because it was instantaneous.
In the scenes all the Jedi look back at their clones with a "what's going on?" perplexed look since they felt this wave of evil just hit them out of nowhere. Then the clones opened fire.
If you watch closely nearly every singe Jedi sensed it coming, the thing was that it went from completely normal to execute order 66. The danger appeared within seconds and by then a lot of Jedi were already surrounded
More felt it than 3.
Windu would have but he was "dead".
Ahsoka felt it due to her connection to Anakin.
Yoda felt it because his link to all lifeforms in the force is powerful.
Ki-Adi would have but was too focused on his fight (and was one of the first deaths)
Shaak-Ti felt it but didn't know what it was until Anakin killed her.
Plo Koon was busy piloting or he would have felt it.
in that video game, cal's master realizes it only seconds before they attempt to kill him. I always figured they all sensed it but couldn't do anything to stop it.
I would guess a big part is that: there wasn’t really premeditation, it was just when they got the order… and more importantly, there likely wasn’t any malice in most of the clones. Depends who they were turning on and how well they were treated.
Add to it the fact that the clone troopers share the talents and traits of the best bounty hunter of that time, Jango Fett. Fett proved his talents and skills as a bounty hunter by killing 7 Jedis. So even if the Jedis were able to feel the betrayal beforehand, they could not possibly defeat 5+ clone troopers at the same time.
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Despite Rahm Kota being legends now. He did survive because he thought something with the clones was… off. So… honorable mention . He saw it coming