Fear of Hell | Teddy - Gainsville, FL | Atheist Experience 22.06
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I don’t know if that fear of Hell ever completely leaves you. I understand it’s all baloney but when you’re taught something like that from birth, it’s hard to shake.
It takes time. I was terrorised by my grandmother that raised me with tales of hell and the end of the world. It took me a very long time, but I can honestly say I have no fear now. Napoleon, just take your bike off some sweet jumps and enjoy your tots!
Yeah it took me nearly a decade, but I honestly don't really give it much of a consideration any more. It is a scary concept, and if it's hammered into your brain from birth, it's a pretty hard notion to shake. The more I just live my life, the less I think about these things, and the less of an effect they have on me
I still have dreams like two or three times a year about going to hell! I am a very convinced and firm atheist but I also was a christian pastor back in my twenties. So I guess it is pretty difficult to completely take that idea out of some subconscious level.
I've got rid of it, took 13 years but I got there. Re-reading the Bible after 13 years of thinking & investigating did it for me.
Yep. it's called brainwashing and can indeed eventually be overcome.
poor dude has an anxiety disorder for sure :(
I 'lost' the fear of hell, when I realized that eternal punishment for finite 'crimes' makes absolutely NO SENSE.
The fear of hell kinda made me an atheist, my friend and I go to the same church and are in the same computing class at school and we'd spend all the time discussing it, in the end we basically concluded that hell is just a fear tactic to keep people believing
@jerry flounders Yeah, and the worst monsters are among us..
And you came to the correct conclusion....well done
Good for you....since you are not afraid of Halloween witches,Hollywood monsters,the magician's 'slicing' the woman into two....why would you fear hell or look for heaven!
I understand! I started distancing myself when I started having nightmares about my family going to hell. My grades started dropping because I’d stay up all night afraid, absolutely ridiculous
If God was all powerful and gave us freewill, then preaching hell is a form of insecurity about his existence
"There was an apologetics group that came to my school." Isn't Florida great? Poor Teddy. Somebody let a guy come to his school and scare the crap out of some of the students by spewing lies about eternal damnation and torture. Way to go. There are things to be truly scared of, but this ancient book of horrific stories of slavery, murder and genocide is not one of them.
As a resident of florida and my families only known atheist, it's tough to live and not hear about jesus down here. I'm 27 and couldn't claim I was an atheist for the last 3 years even though is was one just in case god was watching me. I also cried myself to sleep because my family heard and saw jesus and god and the holy ghost and I was going to hell because he never appeared to me.
I think this book is something to fear for that reason. I was a prisoner of my mind and of my "impure thoughts" my whole life until I finally said fuck it and stopped caring.
ddude apologetics is defined as reasoned arguments or writings in justification of something, typically a theory or religious doctrine. However in my opinion theists arguments are rarely reasoned. Don't feel bad though, I am a native speaker and had to look it up myself years ago. It is not a commonly used word.
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In fact they have classes in fundamental churches that are called Apologetics. I would think they would tend to want to steer clear of that terminology, but there you have it.
Sean Jones -- Yet, they call it "good" book or "good news". Talk about master irony.
People are so afraid of dying, it prevents them from really living.
I'm opting for a grisly, yet amusing end.
@@petermirtitsch1235 Okay okay I bite. What are you opting for? :)
That me now
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774 Why?
Without fearmongering, christianity would just be a silly story, that died off centuries ago.
Even with fearmongering, Christianity is still just a silly story.
Christianity may have died off years ago and centuries ago, but people are killing the meaning of what Christianity means because of their different interpretations of what Christianity is.
I for one find it interesting to listen to an athiest I work with explain her views of God and issues about that .
@@kandidkamra5574 I don't think Christianity has yet died off.
@@rembrandt972ify what's your belief about it.
@@kandidkamra5574 I have family members who are Christians.
Happiness is never again having to fear burning forever in Hell.
This is one of the most useful things of this type that I have seen. When the caller talks about how fear of hell is interfering with his life, how true that is, it can destroy your life. I am confident that this caller will benefit from the experience of talking to you.
Just like 7 days people often use on comment sections that if they don't pass it the message, they will die. It is superstitious like that keep getting people all the time and here you have a concept of Hell which popular among great many people, some people think this is more "creditable"...
@@CuongNguyen-le5ic good analogy
Here's how I look at it. Anything that happens to me for eternity, I'll get used to. Plus, after a little time, we'll probably make friends with the demons and the devil.
And this is what Christianity does to someone....it is so sad to hear this....I'm glad I decided to leave christianity.
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Teddy was not even raised in a religious family and look how he struggled.
I am from the Philippines where everyone around me is drunk with the religious koolaid. I have a friend who was raised in a Pentecostal family...like hard-core founding members of the church. Imagine a world where everyone you knew growing up, the closest people knew, your parents, aunts and uncles, godfather godmother, grandparents, everyone you respect and believed in all tells you that you will go to hell if you dont believed. Dissent would be unthinkable because the consequence would be alienation. NOw that is a kind of real life hell i think...
I'm from the Philippines too and im an atheist. The alienation makes me so fucking lonely.
@@Jerard715 Sorry to hear that, bro.
@Scott Fantazia I think Dan was being sympathetic to the plight of fellow human being being ostracized for having a different view.
Playing DOOM destroys any fear of hell
If I am not wrong the protagonist in Doom says "you are stuck here with me".
Doom guy never defeats satan in any commercial or MegaWad release of Doom though. I don’t think the Icon of Sin qualifies as the devil.
Or Dante’s Inferno lmao
Hahahaha
@@TheWaynelds In DOOM, what is essentially "satan" is something that appears/is mentioned in DOOM Eternal's first expansion. A creation of the game's depiction of God, meant to rule over the realm that eventually became known as Hell after its corruption. Go ahead and look it up on the wiki if you aren't able to play it yourself, the lore is interesting.
My heart goes out to that caller.
Go to the gym, volunteer, work part/full time, read some literature - keep yourself busy, make friends, you won't have time to dwell on religion.
Shortly said, GET A LIFE ! ..................
Who got time for a gym? I'd rather do push-ups at home than paying to achieve the same thing on some 20 different apparatuses.
This is a little ignorant of you. You clearly were not raised by a religion that indoctrinates you from birth in thinking that every wrong move you make, can send you into torture for all of eternity.
Indoctrination is one of those things that only sound arguments and alot of time can defeat; and even then, you take it with you in all that you do.
This fear follows you everywhere you go, and in everything you do. One does not simply shake off indoctrination by saying "just keep busy". It's not like trying to shake a bad breakup. It's in every single fiber of your being.
@@Jimmymatthewb there is no he'll Jimmy.
Hell... hell ,l corrected that twice...
The fear of Hell is honestly just abuse. It's like having a volatile parent who constantly threatens to hit you but never actually does. It's an absolute mind fuck and a disgusting, manipulative concept to ever force on someone, let alone a child.
I feel complete sympathy and pity for this caller.
I have a fear of hell and it’s consuming my life because I also have ocd. It is abuse, especially for people with mental illness. I don’t think I will ever shake this fear and I will never live a fulfilling life because of it
Yahweh, all powerful and takes 6 days. All loving and makes a hell. All perfect and needs to be worshiped. All knowing and does it anyway.
And needs TON-LOADS of MONEY !. ........................
Jesus actually invented hell. There’s not mention of it until the gospels. Funny how people think Jesus is so great of a person.
You clearly don't know what you speak of hell was not made for us but for the fallen angels and Lucifer. But men choose to Rebelle and not believe his only son Jesus Christ for the Forgiveness of sins that's why people go to hell
@@j.a.lucky13 how was not meant for us but yet people reject him that's why they go to hell
@@yahwehismyeverything1867 You write "You clearly don't know what you speak of..." while trying to clear up the finer points of an entirely fictional story... LOL!
I feel sorry for this guy. I couldn't imagine going through life that scared and unsure of himself unable to formulate his own personal opinions.
i feel the same
Poor kid was never taught how to think critically. He has no idea what to believe or how to determine what he should believe, so he just believes the last thing he heard and goes around in circles. I'm sure that's absolutely terrifying. Hopefully, he learned something from the call.
That is not actually fair. He may be able to think critically about some or even most things, but for whatever reason this particular fear is overwhelmingly powerful for him. This is not uncommon even with some people who indeed can think critically in general. Humans are complex. I don’t think it’s a fair assessment to assume he is just believing “the last thing he heard.”
You really should give this guy credit for asking questions rather than blathering on endlessly about the bible or playing the god of the gaps, special pleading, and circular arguments game. He is LISTENING. Give him some credit. Good caller in my opinion.
That was an absolutely devastating call.
So I’m OCD and this guy definitely is too
OCD rumination, me too. Frustrating as fuck
I was thinking the same thing.!
My fear of Hell disappeared completely the day I finally realized that it was all bullshit. Magic isn't real.
I actually feel sorry for this fella. Religion really is a poison.
Why do the Americans scare the crap out of little kids and give them such hangups for the rest of their lives?
Parents want control of their kids so they partake of the same sun/son fairy tale to use it as a mechanism.
I remember hearing the "empty tomb" theory when I was a kid. I thought then, "Gee, we're right because of the empty tomb." I really thought this. Now I look back and see that I was eight years old and easily convinced. I wouldn't have any excuse now if I were to still believe that.
In this case "belief" is an aspect of an anxiety/OCD condition Teddy's developing. God is sometimes the symptom of a mental disorder. It's a disturbance, not a comfort.
You can go your whole life without really confronting issues like death and what may be on the other side. I don't think this is paranoia at all; it's pure anxiety. You can't say he's on the verge of a schizophrenic breakdown.
Being in a similar place before myself I would actually argue that this man is in the depths of an anxiety disorder and should get some help because it's extremely difficult to drag yourself out of it. A person in such a position has to train themselves to change their relationship to their own thoughts and Matt was hitting on a very crucial point, and to expand on it: It's important to not just take the beliefs of others but also to identify your own thoughts as just thoughts and not your beliefs.
This is not a normal sense of anxiety that is about things in life and things that could end it. It is a much further spanning anxiety that encompasses perceived experience after life. To feel this way is to fear infinitely; such a huge burden and it must be so hard to even entertain an idea such as hell being true while living with such an existential dread. This is why he was searching, he's looking for a reason not to feel the way he does. In the anxiety-ridden headspace, it's extremely hard not to entertain ideas and go their furthest corners even if you don't fully believe them.
Fear, in essence, is a little irrational because it's there to protect us from what may or may not be in the moment.
In the end and in my own experience dealing with similar places. The best thing is to think in a logical way, get help with the anxiety and deal with other stressors in your life because they can manifest in ways like this.
It's also important to think and contemplate; Life, in essence, is change, change is the passage of time, experience is change. When you realize this then you can start to understand that ideas such as hell or heaven or even purgatory are in essence lifeless. Without the comfortable blanket of ascribing to a belief and cementing yourself to it like a life boat. One really has to contemplate and shed a lot of these barbaric ideas from ones mind.
I wish this man all the best and assure him he is safe from eternal torment after death.
The fear of hell bothered me into my 50s. It took a great effort to remove it.
May I ask how you removed your fear?
Damn your nearly at deaths door imagine for a min your wrong enjoy that vacation 🙃
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It's time to start holding god to the same high standard he holds us to...
THANK YOU. I used to be in the exact same sick position as the caller and the recovery process is slow. but the more i learn and recover from the damage or damnation of religious freaks and their religion, the angrier i'm growing at them for doing this to people, to the point where i'm estranged from my evangelical-ridden family and parents.
At 10:43 Ron's smile because he knows Matt's about to tell a truth and make a valid point.
So basically i could be the most kindest caring person in the world, give money to charities, do volunteer work, help the homeless also never do drugs and not do harm to anybody or living creature.
However i`m going to hell because i`m an atheist.
Then i could , be a paedophile, steal and be a complete asshole then because i`m a catholic i ask for forgiveness for my sins and have redemption. just so i don`t go to Hell.
Just doesn`t make any sense at all to me.
@Flightof2Owls I don`t understand why if God existed that he/she/ it would need to be worshipped?
It`s like doing something great for someone and expecting them to say thank you every time you see them.
I don`t know about you but once is quite enough thanks.
So to be punished for eternity for being human just does not add up.
Ps. Totally agree with your comment.
When I was leaving islam, fear of hell was something really hard to overcome
Hey how are you doing now? I still have a residue of fear what did you do to overcome it ?
@@ethioagnogirl3768 hey Iam good! well first I jiust realised how unfair to put me in hell for just doing things that harm no one. Then even the fact of being here on earth to be tested while I didnt ask for anything. It just got me angry.
And then with time you over come it the more you distance yourself from religion and realise mroe and more how bullshit it is.
Like do you fear hell of other religions ? no. Cause we just don't beleive in it as such as they don't fear hell of our religion.
All are just stories and had few purposes at the time.
Did Mohammad really fly to heaven on a winged horse ?
This is the reason I left my Christian faith years ago. In some way Thanks Jesus for exposed your BS
I still have dreams like two or three times a year about going to hell! I am a very convinced and firm atheist but I also was a christian pastor back in my twenties. So I guess it is pretty difficult to completely take that idea out of some subconscious level.
Dam I feel you on that one
Thank you for being honest. I have a similar story.
For me, Hell feels like the monster breathing down your neck the instant you turn off the lights in the basement. I understand with all rationality that I have no reason to believe it is there, yet I can’t help but feel fear.
This is true; UNTIL you calm down and begin to think clearly. Perhaps start with the fact that Islam is currently overtaking Christianity in world membership, and is equally influential at the very least. How many SECONDS, let alone minutes, have you spent fearing the muslim hell? Or the Mormon hell? Or the Jewish hell? Or Tartarus? Or blah blah blah and so on and so on. It's so ridiculous that I laugh when I remember having actual fear of it lmao. Cheers :))
I just think a good God that exists in the after life wouldn't torture me in hell for eternity, and if there is no good God but stuff more powerful than me, then i guess I'm screwed and just have to accept it. Because you can't avoid dying. It would be nice to know dying and death would be ok
Honestly this guy sounds like he has some serious issues with paranoia and should definitely seek professional help. I'm not trying to be insulting in this, I mean it honestly (though bare in mind, I'm no psychologist), this guy sounds like he's on the brink of (or even in the midst of) a schizophrenic meltdown
Luc Latinette sounds more like OCD to be honest, the callers emotions and feelings felt kinda familiar to what I’ve gone through with OCD
@ people that hit the thumbs up icon. stop doing that!!! adress this person with a reply,, gamegirl is obvious in need of help..and the admins should too!
@: You recognise the causes of your illness and your obvious unhappiness. You despise them - and yet you continue to embrace them.
Don't fear hell - there is no such thing. It was invented by humans to frighten people when all other methods of persuading them to be "good" - to conform to their beliefs and standards - had failed.
Over the centuries, generations of inadequate, screwed-up, hysterical virgins and sexually dysfunctional authoritarians have used it to cling to power while devising more and more terrifying fantasies about eternal torment to sustain the idea.
These people are part of a death cult. They hate and fear life and can't wait for it to end.
Their evil plan has obviously worked with you - but you don't have to join them.
Life is for living, loving, learning and laughter - and all the evidence points to one fact: you get only one shot at it.
So embrace it - there is so much awe, joy and wonder to be found in this world if you open your eyes to it.
Don't waste your life worrying about the sick fantasies of these sad, deranged peddlers of fear and despair. They want to ruin your life because their own lives are filled with delusional and irrational nonsense.
I can only wish you good luck and happiness.
@ - you CAN choose what you believe. After all, you weren't born a believer. Just examine the evidence, beginning with no suppositions.
When I was twelve years old I was being tipped for a life as a missionary in west Africa. I'd done very well in national scripture examinations and the church I'd grown up in had links wirh Ghana. So I decided that if that was what I was going to do, I'd better read the bible from beginning to end.
As a result, by the age of thirteen I was an atheist. No honest person can swallow the bible's hypocrisy and inconsistency, its misogyny, its cruelty and its stone age savagery and immorality without misgivings and then incredulity.
Yep, you said it, you're no psychologist :) And I, as a no psychologist as well, don't think this is paranoia :)
So we will go to Hell because of something you have no control over... Well, that's a nice god... I don't believe in Christianity, or any other religion, but that's not my choice, and I can't force myself to "have faith".
We have Amazon now so we don't need Jesus to intercede for us.
"Alexa I repent of my sins" LOL
Pray to Jeff Bezos do you? 😉
“Oh please give me a new Amazon Fire TV Stick!”
Then again, who needs ‘hell’ when there are so many tv shows that scare the crap out of you too?
@@jennoscura2381 HA HA HA good one
At some point you have to let it go. I used to have the same fear of Hell. It was crippling and it took up just about every second of my life. It’s hard to shake, but you can slowly start to heal from it. I don’t know what’s coming after I die, but neither does the loud Baptist telling you you’re going to Hell.
I thought I was the only one until I checked out this show. Not a problem now but back in 1986 it was a problem. And that Jack Vanimp and is wife didn't help. Oh according to Jack, Jesus came back 20 years ago. Listening to this guy on the show takes me back to 1986.
Well said.
I hope that he feels better after all these years
Gotta hand it to Matt - even when he's being abrupt and blunt, he's still actually helping.😉❤️
God's mercies endure forever. .read psalm 136 yet HE sends people to an endless hell...😞😟 no wonder im very confused
I feel bad for that guy, holy crap what religion can do to people who aren't even christian. He is emotionally gullible, but he isn't unique in that lots of people are afraid of hell, and that's christianity's best threat to keep people believing and blindly obedient.
It's sad to see all the harm religion has and still causes.
Hell is the most popular broadcast reality show in heaven...
This poor deluded boy needs professional help urgently....
LIFE IS HELL
For a while, after I became an atheist, I still was doubtful about what I had stopped believing. It's understandable that after so much indoctrination it's hard to let go.
Me too
I don’t have a fear of any hell. I’d have a great time giving the finger to tyranny in that circumstance... besides, me and Satan would get along.
Satan seems chill.
Yahweh did not create hell for human beings but for (Lucifer) and his (Fallen angels) you may ask yourself then why people go there because they reject Jesus Christ the son of Yahweh, he was the final sacrifice for sins.
You have to understand that he is Holy and he cannot be in the presence of sin that's why he gave us his (Son Jesus) so we can have a way out and not go to hell, but people love their sin more
@@ImNotaRussianBot you people are foolish you know not what you speak of
@@yahwehismyeverything1867 But if people go there, then it was created for them as well you GODDAMN IDIOT
Hell is not a place, it's a state of mind, that guy build his own hell.
Prove it deny all those who speak of out of body experience eve think for a second athiests are delusional to believe something they don't even know what happened back then
Atheists don’t know what happened back then but you do? 😂 Take your meds, dumbass
Why the hell has Matt got such an attitude with some of these callers? This is a guy that's clearly anxious about things and not thinking clearly, but Matt is yelling at him like he's some kind of religious zealot
Except he's not. Matt does raise his voice when people start running off at the mouth and not listening, or simply rambling on. Allowing someone to do that wastes time and helps nobody.
I'm late to this channel but I did think that Teddy might be having a problem emotionally with this issue. I appreciate that a cognitive approach to helping someone like Ted is vital, but it sometimes takes more time to shift the emotional sting from long held beliefs. A good question for Teddy might have been: "Why now?" Why has Teddy started experiencing such fear now? Is there something else unrelated in his lufe that is causing him anxiety? A counsellor or therapist might have been a good move.
Hell is what you make it... Every pitchfork has a silver lining!
Pitchforks aren't made of silver! haha got you!! Therefor God is real! Double got you!! I finally found the perfect evidence to change matt's mind! Time to call in!
No
@@yahwehismyeverything1867 No what?
@@kenbrunet6120 hell is not what you make it that makes no sense.
How is in the spiritual Realm after your body dies your soul will leave your body if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you will go stand before him but if you reject him you will go straight to Hell demons will come and get you
@@yahwehismyeverything1867 Yeah, I don't believe any of that. Sorry. You can't say that something "makes no sense" And then give an explanation that also makes no sense.
There are many people who were believed to be dead but later found to be alive. Catalepsy is a rare condition where life signs drop so low they are barely detectable. Thousands of years ago or even decades this would be considered a miracle but today we know what it is.
Actually, true catalepsy is incredibly rare. More often, a poor state of medicine could lead to incorrect diagnosis.
Jesus wasn't resurrected? The empty tomb? He went to Ibiza for the white party.
Becoming a "christian" won't help, they keep using it as a carrot and you'll never be sure. My heart hurts for Teddy!
This is what religion does to people. This guy is or was completely messed up since this video is few years old. He spends every waking hour worrying how he is going to hell.
Teddy I don't know if you will read this or not or if you're still suffering with the fear of hell but I just want you to know that you are NOT alone. I honestly never comment on TH-cam but your words really resonated with me. The fear of hell is an exhausting and consuming fear to have. It's something that is a personal struggle for me for a long time. The wish for the fear to just go away so I can get on with my life, the uncertainty that keeps me stuck because I can't know for sure, the back and forth between thinking it might be true and then it's ridiculous to think it's true. Especially when you're surrounded by reminders of the fear. I hope you found peace now and I want you to know that you made me feel less alone in my fear and the exhaustion that comes from such a horrible fear.
I struggle with this too. How are you coping these days?
I had that debate with a fundy. He had every logical argument why the tomb was empty. I listened politely for longer than I should have given him. I finally said, "You missed one possibility! FAST MAGGOTS!!" End of debate!!!!!!!!!
There is no evidence and anything written about it was written by unknown people relating what someone told them, DECADES LATER. Yeah, real good evidence.
Guys, I just invented a religion with the worst hell of all. So yeah, believe in mine.
Always remember God loves you so much he created hell just Incase you don’t love him back
FACTS
What a great call. That poor kid its sad religion can do this to someone. It’s nice hearing a almost comforting call and response
teddy....teddy.......teddy.....TEDDY STOP
😅😅😅😅
...I'm sorry.
Poor Teddy.. hahahahaha i dunno why i found that so funny.
stahp
Lmfao
Teddy, Perhaps you have an anxiety problem and should see a Psychologist to help solve it. I sincerely hope you take my advice and it helps you be at peace in your mind. Nobody should suffer the dogmas of the various religions which is one of the many reasons I am a happy Atheist.
Talking to a religious nut case is hell enough for me!! Fear and control is what religion is all about...
I can sympathize with this guy. Im 100% convinced nowadays in my atheistic view. But because of certain character flaws that i have and the way my childhood went. Coupled with the fact that my brain doesn't have a good handle on the ability to derive thoughts into words. If im debating with an intelligent religious person. Im speechless every time. Does not mean im wrong. The counter arguments just don't pop into my head as quickly as they do for Matt. Sounds to me like he has confidence issues like i do.
Thank You for this comment, every thing you just stated is exactly me also
"God has a list of 10 things that you should not do and if you do any of these this he'll send you to a place with fire and brimstone and suffering and crying and torture and pain and agony forever and ever until the end of time...but he loves you". -George Denis Patrick Carlin.
I feel sorry for the guy because he realises that his fears are irrational, but that doesn't make them less fearsome.
I feel like Teddy is in distress and needs some moral support, I hope someone is there for him. I'm a year too late but if ever you read this message Teddy, you are welcome to contact me anytime if you need to talk to someone.
Since young, I`ve observed that "believers" are usually good "victims" for pranksters, you can make them believe, at least for a short while, really STUPID things ....................
Don’t fear hell, fear life, life is hell
Amen, some day feels like it can not get worse than that. Even hell could be better.
Gimme ALL your money or you go to Hell ..................
I can only hope this continuous debate on the existence of God becomes a catalyst in many lives to question and analyze religious claims. My dad is beyond reach, after a lifetime of worshiping God, but I definitely have hope for those who are less infected and have vacillating opinions, particularly younger generations who can potentially shape and influence our future society.
I am totally convinced there is an invisible beautiful woman in my bed.
I've got no evidence, but I just feel it to be true, ever since I was 13 years old.
Is than what your doing under the blanket
@@jimwade2045
It's a duvet and I am having the time of my life.
I really don't understand how people can believe in any god. Especially if they listen to these men speak or watch this show.
Christians: lol Santa isn't real, that's just silly.
Also Christians: Our Father who arth in heaven....
i was born again and felt great. then i read the bible, and lost faith.... but the feeling was so real
Whoa kinda what's happening to me except i found lot paganism in christianity and started listening to hebrew audios that are translated
If one won't dismiss without evidence a theory of Hell asserted without evidence, ask oneself "Would God set anybody on fire?"
You can only be punished for your own crimes, not those of Adam, you should be a man and accept the just punishment for your life and not allow an innocent man (Jesus) to take the lashes. Even if the Bible is true, killing an innocent man or god is not the way to pay for your behavior, you'll feel better knowing you are not responsible for the crucifixion and your punishment will match YOUR mistakes, not those of all mankind.
It is highly unlikely anything in the Bible is valid but accepting the cruel death of an innocent man to avoid your fate is wrong so either way you should calmly accept that living this life honorably is more important than worrying it away about something you can't control.
You handled poor Teddy beautifully!
The fear of hell is a probably the primary thing holding many back. It was for me. It wasn't until I lost my belief in hell by moving to universalism that I was even able to consider the entire thing was BS.
A key point for me was the realization that many early church fathers were universalist and did not believe in a hell, not only that but the jews never had a concept of a hell, nor was it actually ever mentioned in the old testament. Once I realized the old testament never mentioned hell, I realized there was no way god would leave that part out. The house of cards began crumbling soon after.
On a side note, being born and raised fundamentalist baptist, and actually even preached on one occasion, when I first came across this channel, I despised Matt. But the constant logical arguments were very instrumental in my becoming an athiest. Thanks Matt.
I fear hell that's scary
I understood even as a kid that hell is just a tool to keep you in line. I dont understand how an adult could believe in this crap.
If someone isn't a believer but he is a good person & not harm anyone in anyways , will God still sending him ( or her ) to hell ? Wasn't the whole point being good ? Or worshipping God ? If that's the case, so God is very needy isn't he??
Extremely, a lonely cosmic entity he is
There are way too many things to be afraid of in the world we know exists. I find no need to make up more of 'em. I definitely find bears in the forest and sharks in the ocean enough more frightening than the imaginary hell.
this guy sounds like he needs both some sort of atheistic friend to constantly remind him that hell isn't real as well as a psychologist to help him be able to deal with his fear properly. religion really does ruin people's lives :/
How can Christianities hell be slightly more real, when there's no evidence for any hell.
How scared is this guy.I felt sorry for him. In fact is he continues like this he is going to get autoimmune diseases from anxiety for sure. This is poison.
I have no credentials in psychology but as a person that has suffered with depression and anxiety for decades I get the sense that teddy has depression/anxiety. they do amazing things with medications these days. just my $0.02 fwiw.
If there is a god he either is one of two things. Rather not one or two things. If he is all powerful and doesn’t step in to stop the atrocities around this planet then he is not all loving, and if he is all loving but has no power to step in, then he’s not all powerful. Either way he’s not what he’s been described. Especially in the xtian faith. Who finds letting your son be murdered for the “sins” of others an absolute showing of love? I find that psychopathic and morbid. Would any of you Xtians let your child be whipped, crucified, and murdered? If you would, you’re sick and should not have children
I've always feared people more than any hell.
Respectfully, I think Teddy needs therapy. There seems to be something underlying in his recent experience that has triggered his anxiety.
Thor's hell is the worst. He keeps throwing his hammer on your head repeatedly till eternity and beyond, Hail thor my lord and saviour, my eer lasting 😍 love
Lmfao
This is why I hate religion. The fear is just consuming that poor guy.
Wouldn't be surprised if the caller suffers from OCD and doesn't realise it.
Lol... Gainesville....
Wonder if everyone's buff there..
I'm unfortunately stopping that from being true :/
It sounds almost like an OCD or anxiety issue.
I had to struggle with this for months when I left the religion ( since I struggled with anxiety and ocd). It's not easy, but at least possible. When I learned about nde's and psychadelics, it helped change my view of religion in general.
These poor people who suffer due to fear from our inevitable demise. Whoever this young man is he should begin embracing life, the current moment.
what if you suffer from a horrible illness, what is there to look forward to?
Ranger9700 death to be free of it
Poor Teddy. I'm right there with you sometimes.
Hell does exist. It's living in a beautiful world populated with people who push their religious nonsense on the rest of us.