@@TheDonsRiche youll save 100 bucks. what i just did with an rx 4...although i kinda want one of these too. Id say shoot both if you can and see if the price dif is worth it. my draw is also 26.5 btw. FPS on a rx4 with 435gr arrows and 60# is 242. Might gain a little speed with the ventum
Well done review. Thank you. What are the chances of including a rough idea of horizontal fletching clearance in your reviews with a rest set at 13/16 inches from the riser? A standard diameter arrow with a 3-fletched and 4-fletched configuration would be good to know. An AAE Max Hunter seems to create most clearance issues due to the height of the vane profile. Thanks for spending time on bow mass weight.
Why have a Picatinny rail when you should mount directly to the riser? The Picatinny rail is a chunk of metal that weighs something when you could save weight by direct mount and just adjust the sight up or down. 🤔
It shouldn’t change weight. The sight will not have a mounting bracket making it lighter and replacing that with the pic mt. So it should be pretty much equal while centering the weight of the sight on the riser.
“Picatinny Rail” term is used here to indicate that the scope can be mounted on a flat surface of the front of the Bow riser. This existing surface serves as a “Picatinny Rail” thus adding no addt’l weight. In fact, it potentially reduces weight as a scope can now be made shorter (and lighter) since it’s on the front of the Riser and not mounted to the middle of the Riser. Also the integrated rest is smaller and as a result, a lighter weight than previous.
I’m not certain why you believe the draw is smoother on the new bows. They seem more like the Matthews draw cycle and it is by no means an easier draw cycle (taking for granted comparison between #3 cam of previous RX series and Axius). I saw you mentioned that on the RX-5 as well. You are literally the only person to have made this claim and as someone who owns the RX-4 (purchased the day of the release due to not being pleased with new harsher draw cycle) I would like you to explain why you believe this to be the case.
Well because in our opinion, the new HBX can on the Hoyt feels better than any Hoyt from the last several years. Have you shot the new RX-5 yet? Just curious as to your argument on this?
@@MikesArchery Yes, I shot the RX-5 and the Ventum on Wednesday when they were released. Ended up purchasing an RX-4 that day due to the draw cycle (plus a few other things like the weight). I am a 28” draw @ 60lbs and went with the #3 cam. The draw cycle of the new bows feels much closer to the draw cycle of the Matthews. Seems to have a much larger hump whereas the RX-4 was a much more controlled continuous buildup and the let-off. I see there is a person below that also feels like you do, so it must be one of the personal preference things. Just find it really odd that (now) almost everyone I have spoken with agreed that the draw became a much quicker hurdle/lump than previous. Very similar to the #2 cam in the turbo.
I guess it’s all in what the specific person likes in the feel of a bow. We personally didn’t like the Axius or RX4, but enjoyed shooting these new ones. To each their own I guess. Thanks for watching and hope you continue coming back! And we haven’t shot the new Mathews yet so that’s still to be determined
@Rusty Shackleford I have not shot the traverse, but next time I'm at the shop I'll pull one out. I do like the V3 much better than the VXR, but wasn't nearly as happy with it as the RX-4.
I'm no Hoyt fan, but I'd consider this for my next 3D/hunting bow. Only issue... Why are Hoyts so heavy now!? 5lbs is heavy for a 30" ATA bow. 3.9-4.3 would be better for hunting imo.
Simply stated, Hoyt’s Ventum and Matthew’s V3 are heavier because consumer’s are demanding Faster Speeds, No Vibe, Smooth Draw, and features. All of those are met with this bow. To meet those requirements, however, takes “backbone” mass or stability which adds weight. That’s the trade-off. Of course some consumers, like yourself, feel there are other factors. In that case, there are options for you with other bows.
Several options. The Hoyt Torrexx is a mid line introductory bow from Hoyt. Bear has several options like the new Legit that are reasonably priced as well.
Awesome review! Hoyt definitely done there homework on these new bows !!
Awesome bow and great video!!
Whew I almost bought the 2020 hoyt axius alpha... saved me some agony lol.. you made my choice way easier.. great vid.
Thanks for watching!
I was thinking about the axius alpha? Should I reconsider? I have 26.5 DL
@@TheDonsRiche youll save 100 bucks. what i just did with an rx 4...although i kinda want one of these too. Id say shoot both if you can and see if the price dif is worth it. my draw is also 26.5 btw. FPS on a rx4 with 435gr arrows and 60# is 242. Might gain a little speed with the ventum
Well done review. Thank you. What are the chances of including a rough idea of horizontal fletching clearance in your reviews with a rest set at 13/16 inches from the riser? A standard diameter arrow with a 3-fletched and 4-fletched configuration would be good to know. An AAE Max Hunter seems to create most clearance issues due to the height of the vane profile. Thanks for spending time on bow mass weight.
heavy hell with that bow
Great review
Thanks for watching!
Why have a Picatinny rail when you should mount directly to the riser? The Picatinny rail is a chunk of metal that weighs something when you could save weight by direct mount and just adjust the sight up or down. 🤔
It shouldn’t change weight. The sight will not have a mounting bracket making it lighter and replacing that with the pic mt. So it should be pretty much equal while centering the weight of the sight on the riser.
“Picatinny Rail” term is used here to indicate that the scope can be mounted on a flat surface of the front of the Bow riser. This existing surface serves as a “Picatinny Rail” thus adding no addt’l weight. In fact, it potentially reduces weight as a scope can now be made shorter (and lighter) since it’s on the front of the Riser and not mounted to the middle of the Riser. Also the integrated rest is smaller and as a result, a lighter weight than previous.
I’m not certain why you believe the draw is smoother on the new bows. They seem more like the Matthews draw cycle and it is by no means an easier draw cycle (taking for granted comparison between #3 cam of previous RX series and Axius). I saw you mentioned that on the RX-5 as well. You are literally the only person to have made this claim and as someone who owns the RX-4 (purchased the day of the release due to not being pleased with new harsher draw cycle) I would like you to explain why you believe this to be the case.
Well because in our opinion, the new HBX can on the Hoyt feels better than any Hoyt from the last several years. Have you shot the new RX-5 yet? Just curious as to your argument on this?
@Hoff I have a helix ultra and just shot the new Ventum33. I think the new Ventum33 draws easier than my helix ultra
@@MikesArchery Yes, I shot the RX-5 and the Ventum on Wednesday when they were released. Ended up purchasing an RX-4 that day due to the draw cycle (plus a few other things like the weight). I am a 28” draw @ 60lbs and went with the #3 cam. The draw cycle of the new bows feels much closer to the draw cycle of the Matthews. Seems to have a much larger hump whereas the RX-4 was a much more controlled continuous buildup and the let-off. I see there is a person below that also feels like you do, so it must be one of the personal preference things. Just find it really odd that (now) almost everyone I have spoken with agreed that the draw became a much quicker hurdle/lump than previous. Very similar to the #2 cam in the turbo.
I guess it’s all in what the specific person likes in the feel of a bow. We personally didn’t like the Axius or RX4, but enjoyed shooting these new ones. To each their own I guess. Thanks for watching and hope you continue coming back! And we haven’t shot the new Mathews yet so that’s still to be determined
@Rusty Shackleford I have not shot the traverse, but next time I'm at the shop I'll pull one out. I do like the V3 much better than the VXR, but wasn't nearly as happy with it as the RX-4.
I'm no Hoyt fan, but I'd consider this for my next 3D/hunting bow.
Only issue... Why are Hoyts so heavy now!?
5lbs is heavy for a 30" ATA bow.
3.9-4.3 would be better for hunting imo.
Not gonna argue, they are heavy but the shoot and feel really good.
Simply stated, Hoyt’s Ventum and Matthew’s V3 are heavier because consumer’s are demanding Faster Speeds, No Vibe, Smooth Draw, and features. All of those are met with this bow. To meet those requirements, however, takes “backbone” mass or stability which adds weight. That’s the trade-off. Of course some consumers, like yourself, feel there are other factors. In that case, there are options for you with other bows.
Any new beginners bows out yet
Yes they are.
Several options. The Hoyt Torrexx is a mid line introductory bow from Hoyt. Bear has several options like the new Legit that are reasonably priced as well.
Its about f'n time they got it right
Let’s be honest thAt small stabilizer looks like they were trying to copy Mathews lol
Wouldn’t be the first time the did that.
@@MikesArchery right